Q3 2019 Earnings Call
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the article first call, but where do you what our third quarter 2019 results. Thank you for spending by I described all participants are not least similarly mode. Later, we'll conduct a question answer session and instructions to participate well begin appetite.
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[laughter] good morning, everyone and thanks for joining the call.
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Oh, the margins did abuse moved through the third quarter was a were negative 11% at Columbus alleviation. The reason why carnival cool everything true less that.
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We expect to recall works that become all deferred cash usage in the fourth quarter.
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You know that we'll be a magnitude you get flow.
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Like a net debt of 1.3 billion.
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Another company and it's very important to make clear that commercialization business you know what city normally.
When it comes at the time they go into every management, but you did coming off.
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We now expect the transaction could do cost we made good shortly after older. The authority approval I think.
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We have to boosted our 2019 and too bold and improved to guide.
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When you when you all fit into due to both of them I do think that full guidance well for cash consumption from 100 mm $300 million.
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ER and guidance includes all the expected votes that could be fair and related services that is the goal that you'd be they live by Embraer after closing.
Are we in brand we affirm consolidated revenues of 2.5 to 2.8 billion.
Marching up 55% and breakeven free cash flow you could die and <unk>.
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Embraer and now expect a special dividend over between 1.2 week CAD 1.6 billion to be big after closing the transaction into Baldwin and synergy.
With that I think with my presentation, and then we would like there I'd like to bear to all the fuel Chem Ski school Gordon for his closing remarks.
Thanks, Nelson and good morning into all analysts and investors connected with this call.
Ah after six months has a handle cambria I'd like to share my impression the market.
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We have agreed team and I am really impressive why the commitment and hard work.
I would seem the car called process.
Or into the commercial aviation business, it's when you're pumping.
Of course, the car vote has affected our results in 2019, what we are confident that after the conclusion off this partnership with Boehringer Ingelheim, there will be much stronger.
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There's been lots to do you remember it is important actions.
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We are presented to the market at the right time, what 100% school instead of the huge pattern. We have seen is that computer defense in services.
With a lot of Fourq, we don't see as.
Oh degree you brought up from here.
I mean, you Costco throwing cash generation RV, that's our big itself with great to be used to be boom to do the three businesses.
Oh watering, Michigan, what degree more gratitude to all were shareholder shareholders then bids.
That's the reason my management team did to engage in reviewing the business plan for addictive defense and services.
We also continue we would focus on being a visionary initiatives that will contribute we did future growth of the company.
Finally, we recently announced its important changes there's no such salgado, although of course, it's beautiful you know operations, Great Britain realignment of operations team with the financial targets we have.
We also invested a burner, but yes.
There's always you'll see a full.
Starting on January 1st the 2020.
In front of problems from different group and brings a lot of her experience and cost control propped up into better wrong and cash generation.
I believe we got beauty their rights of yours or should I think were predicting necessary steps that we bring your normal as a result throwing addresses the coming years.
With that.
To conclude our presentation and would like to open for questions.
Ladies and gentlemen, we then I'll begin the question answer session. It you'll have a question breathy Starkey followed by one.
If at any time, you with likes removed himself from the question. Thank you Brad starts you.
Our first question comes from iPhone, rather Cowen and company.
Hi, This is Jeff Molinari on for Guy Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions.
So the first question I have is on you know the Boeing Embraer JV shouldn't get was reported that you stopped the clock to review the propose JV and this latest development contemplated in your expectation for a decision in March or.
How is that what will that be up and will that be delayed substantially.
And then I have a couple of follow.
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No we do not exceed that there's any kinda like we should know.
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No and they requested additional information from the two coincidence.
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Hard to believe it did you say nation. This makes possible, but good he ever been conditions, but the big block. We do believe that you should information you don't see any change in normal course of both of these courses and don't expect these TV, but did you do.
Okay. Thank you and.
Another follow up.
So the delay caused a decrease in the special dividend range.
But but you didn't quantify what the impact is on separation costs can you talk a little bit about what the expectation is for those costs and 2019 and 2020 or collectively however, you want to frame it. Thank you.
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And is there an amount and in your free cash flow guidance, how you're assuming for free cash for that to hundreds at 300 outflow.
Or what are your assumptions of separation costs within that.
The other thing, but the guidance include they're ready to somebody from cost to do I get up to 100 view them as I mentioned too.
Okay I'll get back in line. Thank you guys.
Our next question comes from Myles Walton yet.
Hi, Good morning, everyone. This is little if at all for miles.
Hi, good bye.
Just wanted to sort of follow up on that so what was the driver to the change in the dividend, which I think previously 1.6 now it's 1.3 to 1.6.
Is there is the.
Is there a change in the amount of we get U.S. expect from the deal as well.
No, that's probably driven mainly by the cash consumption dogs and monkeys.
And all too by the V. yeah.
The change of the gave him from wouldn't be she does lead to impede two only much like food.
Do they like all the cash consumption.
We've tried to would be that they choose to change the guidance does it.
Okay. Thank you and <unk>. So I think now you're you're saying, there's I think five super Tucanos I guess I thought I.
Interesting when you're expecting a few more than enough this year worse stats.
Yeah, you are different acting like.
That's five of them where.
It's from the beginning of two fold improvement you.
Okay, great. Thank you very much.
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Our next question comes from William that's true Global capital.
Okay.
My question was about.
This is Jeff workers wondering if you could provide a little bit of absorption on Oh, that's all been for Q2.
So to give you asking about videojet orders.
Yes, correct.
Well, we just bought with every new shows you. The quote were the highest level. The first nine months of the you from the last five years. So it would be no I'm very very good results.
Windows or.
These are the ones going forward all goes from Oh, Wow, So next year.
You should be very well paid and let's just because the lunch customer on the big but 500.
It was very good.
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For the business Jets figures.
Thank you.
Quick follow up can you are you able to discuss our backlogs for Q3 for our business at Stifel.
Yeah.
Sequence off the phases backlog with these athletes filings.
For a exactitude aviation Israel, but they both had here would be a few years for fourth quarter executive aviation backlog, but busy.
Hi, it's got a as well.
Okay. Thank you.
Excuse me. Our next question comes from cars on the runner Cowen and company.
Hi, Thanks for the follow up guys.
What is your new expectation for net cash position or if the deal we're closing in March timeframe.
Thank you.
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It depends on exactly when the deal closes.
As you know as we move by getting busier.
No it used to be normal or do you have gas consumption in the first month 50 years because after seasonality.
That's true or the amount of cash that to be at least the depressed it to the net cash that you had that they need to abandon the moment to the globally.
Well, then a bit crazy with.
And there has to happen.
Coincidentally the year end, where you have.
Oh wait just normally as their cash position because then situation no we did slow.
He was at the end of third quarter year, then it's difficult to producing that should be able to Dan and get that if not before and let them get school phone. So most of this meant that figure.
Okay that makes sense.
And then how how is the separation activities are progressing I did you see are on track for internally separating by fiscal year end, what still needs to be done and then.
Between now and you know.
Yes.
You know that you know business prospects.
Well when we had the many many projects going on and two could be able to do that separation or right. Now we are really the integrated data from the variation of the ERP system, we choose.
One of the.
You bet that we'd have to do.
And the debt legal fees, there that most of the PVC. Our finishes that's all I can work to do you have seen we should be most of the Cds because the BBC by moving else December .
And that is very much centric.
That's really what we will do now as we've grown since 2019.
When you enter a blackout periods, because he had to to shut down because the system. So that we did.
You start to be affiliation as two different topic.
So we expect two big before stupid to be week. So generally we bet losses and when you come back from that to you already opened age Pes truth is something that the company that leads into future and then but just to make sure Ben Andrew.
With the list was easy with Garver, though.
As I mentioned that visitation trends, these forming and do the fusion.
Embraer or you can do you need to yesterday.
Commercialization as we always when they only between these two best known internally we couldn't necessity.
The thing management, who.
Leadership.
Understood. Thank you.
Our next question comes from source more income more than probably.
Oh, Hi, this is actually Josh Milberg from Morgan Stanley .
I was hoping I wanted to ask if you could give a little more color on the issue of your commercial profitability in the third quarter. In addition to the issue of step up for separation costs, you mentioned that that it was affected by it by ramp up of the true you could you talk a little more about that effect and how you see that that affect evolving into before.
Fourth quarter and into 2020, I really is of course that if all goes as planned you won't be managing the commercial business as of next year.
But I thought you still have some perspective.
Okay. So.
We've worked off commercial aviation is either quarter do were negatively affected by the separation costs.
According to the methodology that there will be fine the commercialization.
She is almost all of the separation costs together with some parts of the says it could be there that is also using the commission Cds. So that explains a bicycle do they need good they're pretty heavy reporting and easy because it's all you said you don't.
We expect to have they nation.
Deconsolidation costs moving into 2000.
Yes. This block so hopefully that explanation.
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So yeah right working with the learning curve like this girl business, we are reducing costs.
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Okay, and then I'll be he wants to 75 issue that you did you mention could you elaborate a little bit on that if that's because it's the special configuration version of that aircraft, which we'd understood in the past sort of lower selling price.
Yes.
Yeah, that's right so the physical population and the effect of due diligence we see this week before this grows so does it.
Drives these margins and I don't.
Okay. Thank you very much for that exploration.
Our next question comes from Gabelli when she for this company.
Hi, Thank you for taking my questions actually I have two questions following up on Josh questions regarding margins.
So can we affirmed that link back to margins came more from the E choose that'd be 175, and then another another question. If you could provide any detail regarding the profitability of a brighter gonna be it'd be great. Thank you.
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Good good performance to the commercialization margin say that 75 you own.
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And maybe I shouldn't and back to Oh, that's definitely a commercial aviation.
The other.
Okay. Good margins on the bigger, but that's okay. The margin on that basis, yes.
I believe we had a in the quarter.
That said the positive it would be.
No one excuse aviation elite did anybody else could be we should basis could some good not to disclose them.
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My page 12 credits, but definitely the grazing helpful bark blade.
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Okay. Thanks, that's great.
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Our next question comes from real Niagara Flinching Tam investment.
Hi, this is new and either from CTM English Memphis.
I'd like to ask you guys are.
What are your main gear is doing in terms of prices a in order to achieve the costing and perform a self depressed or do you have jets.
Sorry, I didn't know to understand the first part that's good afternoon ladies E.
What are your main you're doing in terms of prices are to achieve the costs and there for myself, the new branch or jets, I mean are they getting more discounts or two to achieve the though.
That's great or a price.
No we used to be very strongly bad through the bake. It in a few hundred can be found it fits books. He believes the dilution.
For our business, but a hell of a female performance.
Our lunch.
Has a much higher prices food to fill rates. These pieces to have lost redemptions that would get you standards you could be the biggest keeps coming so.
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Concludes todays question and answer session that does conclude Embraers audio conference for today. Thank you very much for participation and have a good day.
Well. Thank you very much at all for joining the call.
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