Q1 2020 Earnings Call
Good day and welcome to the information services Group first quarter results Conference call. Today's conference is being recorded and the replay will be available on <unk> website within 24 hours.
For opening remarks, an introduction I would like to fill the confidence over to Mr. Barry was.
Go ahead Sir.
Thank you operator, Hello, and good morning, My name is Barry Holt I'm, a senior Communications' second Oh, yes gene. Unlike a whopping I agree with ice sheets first quarter conference call I'm joined today by Michael Cohen, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and David Burger Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
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And now I'd like to trying to call over to Michael cars.
Before I went by David Berger.
Mike.
Thank you very good morning, everyone.
These are unprecedented times.
None of those living and working today has experience you get bad I think.
It's a magnitude.
In some ways its surreal.
This morning, I'm going to divide my comments into two parts.
First or quarterly results, which were solid considering up sort of the core was impacted by the GLONASS bonds.
Well I'll provide some perspective on the current environment, how we're operating.
For the quarter, we delivered a good results revenues of 64 million EBITDA nearly 4 million.
We entered 2021 strong momentum.
Coming off our most profitable second half ever.
Letting itself for what we anticipated would be a faster start to 20 point.
And then the will begin to change that door.
The call bars is profoundly altered daily life.
We need sweeping upheavals the global economy.
But we all know them. So we took action and I'll review those actions in a moment.
The first quarter.
In Q1, we served 409 clients.
Industry growth in financial services energy.
Life Sciences.
Public sector.
Our technology industry verticals.
And did not change management digital services did I asked you reach search service lines.
Our recurring revenues in the quarter reached $21 billion for the quarter up 13%.
And represented about 33% about tone.
Driven by research and or public sector contracts.
We repurchased more than $3 million, a biopsy stocking generated close to 5 million cash from operations.
It was four times the level of cash generation from a year ago.
And we ended the quarter with more than $17 million in cash.
And our leverage ratios are in good shape.
Over the last several months.
Also investing further in alliance GE automation assets.
Doubling our sales team and adding additional resources.
These investments as we anticipated in our Q4 call had a negative impact of about $1 million on Q1 EBITDA.
However, we expect to be part of more than doubled this investment in 2021, as we continue to seek ways to unleash the value of this business for shareholders.
That's one of your all regions, the Americas delivered $37 million and Robin in the quarter down 4% from the prior year.
This result includes the cancellation of or like audience cheap destination events in late March.
And a reduction in client gullible T.D. that would stop in March both due.
The pandemic.
During the quarter the region saw good industry growth in all financial services oil and gas form of life Sciences and public sector industry verticals.
And in our change management and I asked you reach search service lines.
Offsetting this growth the Americas experience head when the consumer and manufacturing industries during the quarter.
Key client engagements in the first quarter included Western Union.
Let's say Stanley Black <unk> Decker in Stanford Health care.
Among all significant wins.
Global leader in retail and wholesale pharmacy.
Awarded <unk> G $2 million due to support the transformation of their global technology operations.
And a global leader in B to B storage and information management systems.
Awarded I have two largest ever HR engagement for close to $2 billion.
Under this new engagement honest she will lead the clients overall outsourced payroll implementation program for the next year.
Turning to Europe or revenues grew by 3% with strong results in Germany, and double digit growth in the UK.
During the quarter the region saw good industry growth in all financial services Energy life Sciences manufacturing and consumer industry verticals.
And our and you know a research network and automation service lines.
Decline engagements in Europe, and the first quarter included Volkswagen.
Alianca.
Unique Lee.
Once virtual and lumen or bank.
Among all wins I assume it's been awarded a 2 billion dollar engagements to provide did do advisory support to a global grocery retailer headquartered in Germany.
We also secured new business with a German multinational manufacturing company to support its next generation technology.
We expect this work will lead to a multiyear engagement.
Finally at Asia Pacific, We reported double digit growth with revenues up 16% $5 million driven by the public sector, and our energy and life Sciences industry verticals.
Key clients in the quarter included Rio Tinto.
Strain taxation office.
The Australian Department of Defense.
The department of home with theirs.
Alps, ex Australia, petroleum and AIDS that banking group.
So overall, considering the approximately 2 million dollar revenue impact Kogut 19 on the quarter, we're pleased with our solid Q1.
Now, let me check where did the second part of my comments this morning.
To provide some perspective on the current environment, how and how we are offering.
As a bomb we set three objectives during this period damage.
First do everything we can to safeguard the health of our employees and their families.
And I'm pleased to report all 1300, a bar employees on site.
Second is to serve our clients and do show with minimal disruption.
And third to preserve our fundamental financial performance.
In support of our employees and shareholders.
I'm proud of how I always cheat colleagues have responded to these challenges.
You really every I guess you call it has been working from home.
And we have implemented a series of cost actions to minimize the economic impact of clients, reducing their short term spending levels.
Well not laying off any of our employees as result of the virus.
You will see that reflected in our Q2 guidance.
A number of our clients, especially those in the airline travel hospitality automotive in retail sectors.
Even more deeply affected by the pandemic.
Here, we continue to serve as a trusted advisor with most of these clients.
Looking to support them in this difficult operating environment.
For example, we've extended our payment terms to assist in cash flow management.
Then reduce our cost of services for a period of time to help some of them get through the summer months.
We know this works.
We took similar actually with our clients during the great recession.
And they remain clients of ours today.
It is a true partnership.
Operationally honesty is well positioned to respond to this global health and economic crisis.
With our virtual team structure, we were able to pivot quickly to a work on the whole model.
And continue to provide complete continuity of services to our clients.
Some of whom we're experiencing is unique completely virtual environment.
The first time.
From a client delivery perspective.
She's portfolio service services.
Its purpose built to respond rapidly in times of recession.
Or other major disruptions.
Our pandemic ready offerings include.
Our rapid cost Takeouts services.
Our automation solutions.
Our network services to support the massive new demands on our clients networking capacity.
Data security to accommodate remote workers.
And our vendor compliance and risk management solution called alliance to govern acts.
That helps clients ensure business continuity from their complex ecosystem of third party suppliers.
Exactly recently signed two new government ex contracts with $4 million, one with a top three telecom player and the other with a major consumer manufacturing company.
And this month, we are starting to see increased demand for our strategic planning services.
At some clients began to emerge from the immediate Kogan crisis.
And turning their sights on business recovery.
They're looking for support and guidance to increase or investments in digital transformation.
On the other side of this pandemic.
If there's one thing this crisis is showing up it is the power of digital.
Our clients are realizing now more than ever.
Need automation cloud data analytics.
Computing.
Water networking infrastructure and workplace applications.
And they need to scale these technologies faster.
As a result, we expected so acceleration of digital to be turbo charging 2021 as companies emerge from this pain they made by yearend.
And that needs a bright future Brian's G.
The reality is no interest rate or business.
Completely immune from the impact of this pandemic, including Alliance Judy.
I asked you reveal be attracted cobot 19 on the global technology and business services industry last month.
Well, we held our global honesty index.
Reaping before a record audience of more than 1400 participants.
Including over 250 financial analysts.
Well I didn't see index finding show the global Sochi markets growth momentum slowed in second half of Q1.
That's concerns over the Corona bars pandemic began to impact spending.
For Q2, we are forecasting each 17% keep sequential drop in HCV with a broad sourcing market industry.
So led by the three guiding principles I mentioned earlier.
I see acted quickly and decisively in March to reduce our costs.
This is reflected in our strong Q2 EBITDA guard guidance.
Even as we reduced our cost base to match the anticipated shifting market demand.
We continue to invest in all I have seen platform services.
We are committed to becoming a digitally driven solutions for them.
Powered by digital expertise data in software platforms.
The pandemic only serves to underscore the importance of our strategic direction.
We remain steadfast in our commitment to expanding our digital platform services.
Now, let me turn to guide.
The coded 19 crisis continues to evolve and is creating an increased amount of uncertainty.
We expect our clients will pull back on certain investments in the near term it need cope with the immediate busy business impacts of the pandemic.
This is especially through with our clients the industries, such as travel hospitality retail and automotive.
In addition, other revenue impacts in Q2 include a reduction to near zero, a client TD reimbursable expense, which usually runs about 4% to 5% of revenues.
And though we are planning for life is cheap produced destination events to return.
We're not forecasting any revenue per person events in Q2.
On the positive side as I mentioned previously we're seeing strong client interest in our rapid cost optimization services.
Acquire in risk management.
Network capability and resiliency.
Digital workplace solutions and business recovery planning.
Longer term, we think for pandemic will accelerate client demand for investment in the digital transformation services, we provide.
Balancing all of this we will continue to provide guidance on a quarterly basis in the near term.
For the second quarter, we are forecasting revenues of between 53 and $55 million.
And despite the reduction in revenues from Q1.
We expect to nearly double EBITDA sequentially.
We project, our Q2, adjusted EBITDA will be between $67 million.
As a result of the cost actions we've taken.
And in anticipation of higher margins services being delivered in the quarter.
Our business outlook reflects our assumptions as up today regarding the potential affected the corona virus epidemic.
So with that let me turn the call over to David Berger, who will summarize our financial results.
David.
Yes.
Thanks, Mike I'm, Doug good morning, everyone.
Revenues for the first quarter were $63.7 billion compared with $64.8 million in the prior year.
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Currency negatively impacted reported revenues by $1 million versus the prior year.
Reported revenues were 36.8 billion in the Americas.
4%.
22.2 million in Europe.
3% in constant currency and flat on a reported basis.
That's $4.7 million in Asia Pacific up 16% in constant currency and 8% on a reported basis.
First quarter Twentytwenty adjusted EBITDA was 3.5 million compared with 3.6 million in the prior years first quarter.
We reported a first quarter operating loss of $700000 flat with the first quarter of 29 teams.
The net loss for the quarter was $1.4 million compared with a net loss of $900000 in the prior.
Included in net loss for 2020.
Were $300000 agencies.
Well situated with our amended credit agreement.
Reported fully diluted loss per share, what's three cents compared with a fully diluted loss per share of two cents for the same period in 29 team.
Adjusted net income for the first quarter was $1.1 billion or two cents per share on a diluted basis compared with adjusted net income of 1.5 million or three cents per share on a diluted diluted basis in the prior years first quarter.
Consulting utilization for the first quarter, what 66% at quarter end headcount was 1305, essentially flat with last year.
Our balance sheet continues to have the slate.
Flexibility to support our business over the long term.
Net cash provided by operations for the first quarter was approximately $5 million versus $1 million in the prior year.
We repurchased $3.4 million of shares in Q1.
And we ended the quarter with $17.4 million of cash.
As we previously announced during the quarter, we amended the credit agreement. The farm originally entered into a December 1st 2016.
The amendment includes a 61% reduction.
And your annual mandatory principal payments to $4.3 million.
Access to our revolver up $54 million.
Lowering abolishing clubs or removal of the cap on share repurchases with some limits.
I didn't expect shouldn't be agreements maturity to March 10th Walkie talkie filing.
As of March 31st 2020, we had $86.9 million debt outstanding.
Down 9% from the prior year and 12% since January 2019.
Our average borrowing rate for the quarter was 4.6%.
And 80 basis point reduction from a year ago.
And we had 47.6 million shares outstanding as of April Thirtyth.
Well I will now share concluding remarks before we go to Q with that.
Mike.
Thank you did.
To summarize these are unprecedented times clearly the global economy impacted as never before like Cobot 19.
Hi, as she continues to serve our clients without interruption.
And we're seeing good demand for our recession in business disruption services like cost takeout and supplier management automation network.
And recovery services.
For the quarter or revenues EBITDA were flat with the prior year a good result, given the economic conditions in the cancellation of all life.
Hi, its ci destination events in March.
Overall demand in the near term will be impacted by the pandemic as new business development efforts in particular become more challenging.
We have taken significant cost actions to help mitigate this impact and this is reflected in our strong Q2 EBITDA forecast.
Longer term, we see the paint gimmick being an accelerator for clients digital transformation.
With the resulting increasing demand for services.
And we continue to being a strong financial position ending the quarter with over 17 or any cash.
With additional liquidity available for both risk and opportunity.
As always we are focused on creating shareholder value for the long term and we are steadfast.
In our mission to deliver operational excellence to our clients.
Well. Thank you very much for calling in this morning, and now let me turn the discussion over to the operator for your questions.
Thank you Sir.
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Another Pickard first question Marc Riddick Huh.
Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Good morning, gentlemen.
Good morning, Mark.
First of all I want to thank you for all the detail provided and the color around what you what do you have experienced and some of the thoughts as far as what you see going forward I what does it get start with maybe a one of the I mean, we've heard from many companies during the earnings talking about there there are updated views and.
By stocks around.
Digital transformations and some of the things and quite frankly, we've heard Ceos quite frankly change their mind about things like on conference calls I wanted to start there and wanted to just.
Such a little bit about.
The conversations you're having about the digital workplace of the future. If you will and maybe how are you know how those engagements kind of evolved over the over the last few weeks.
Okay. Good market good question.
So I would say that it varies a little bit by industries. So let me take it maybe two buckets all put it in the bucket of the most distressed industries, which would be the hospitality travel a retail for example.
And I would say most of those industries. The work that we already asked it perform.
It's really I would call on the immediacy of cost takeout My network cannot handle work from home of the people that we now.
And how do I take cost out to be able to kind of get past. The this pandemic over the next few quarters. So I would say, it's an immediate it's fast it will include pieces like automation.
Pieces.
Cost takeout and shared service efficiencies quickly in the renegotiation.
Outside services.
That's what we're seeing in terms of bundle of services I would call it the more distrust.
The decrease because the here and now.
For the broader industry segment I think what this pandemic has exposed.
Those that we're further along in their digital transformation, whether its E commerce.
Whether it is the flexibility of their network capability, whether it's the business resiliency.
Those areas are beginning to either shine or those areas are beginning to show it's where.
So a lot of our work around those industries are saying how can we accelerate our digital journey.
Or our capabilities and to think about the workplace of the future.
Whereas two I used to operate in one form and as I move forward I believe I could operate more efficiently more effectively in a different form.
And that will include working from home more than any form that's ever work from home before.
So that's the kind of buckets to different buckets to different sets of industries market that helps that's how that's how we see the the Ceos and they're kind of executive teams kind of operating right now and kind of real time.
That's very helpful. Thank you and I was wondering if you could give a bit of color around the be.
Internal needs as far as headcount and certainly are seeing opportunities that will.
Evolve and brought in over the coming quarters or want to get a thought as to a or do you are you comfortable with where you are like after you feel the need to add more to to accommodate <unk> bees demand and what we might see minutes reporters here.
Are you talking about I as GE or the clients.
Yes.
I see yes, no I'm, not I think well continue to monitor our or or or head count I do not anticipate it going up it's possible that the mix could change.
But so from a head count standpoint, I think that you know, we likely will not refill certain roles. If they become vacant I'm joined this interim period of time.
But I don't anticipate a head count number that would look much different than it is today.
It's certainly not going going up more oh from that standpoint, if I couldn't just had one other component to your previous question one other area that's very hot.
Clients is asset bought monetization.
So think about a lot of enterprises today. There are all 4000 that we track, they're all 4000 captives that.
That are currently owned by enterprises.
We are being called on to say can you help us monetize that where a service provider will call man.
And for pick a number $80.100 billion they will buy the captive.
Well, then kind of cell back services, they will use their magic to make it more efficient tend to be able to use other plants, what that path to and that's also another big area.
Work that's going on.
Among enterprises now that get some immediate cash as you can imagine and you can do these kind of monetizations in a relatively quick period of time within a quarter.
Great and then last one for me you made mentioning as far as I'm dealing with your your customers and we're working with them and that's partnerships fashion, particularly around taking that turns in the near term I was wondering if you can talk a little bit about that not just that but maybe the differences of what you're seeing now versus what your.
During the great recession, and how it's evolved I mean.
Maybe what maybe a couple of the similarities or and maybe some of the differences thinking yes.
Good question. So I would say we are using a playbook with a little modification that we used during the recession.
And that is we have a number of or 700 clients, who have been with its a lot of years dating back to the reception.
Some of them into distressed industries of hospitality in travel retail clearly have Danny enormously heart.
They wanted to our work to continue so think of a cruise line think of a major hotel take about a major retailer it's about a major automotive player.
They didnt not warn us to go away.
The same time their revenues dropped 50, 75 and in some cases almost 90%.
So what they asked us for was what could be considered for them to keep doing what we were doing and there's a variety of options that we've made available to them everything from extending payment terms to 120 days.
To keeping all coal teams fully engaged but at a reduced price for a period of for a period of time.
And some combination of those at the board the stress quiet areas that enables us to remain it keeps a sticky and built continued loyalty and we solve this when we were with the great reception.
That we get it I remember one client one of our major taught by client, calling the 10, saying that they were going to file bankruptcy. The next day.
Expected to come out of it in three to four months.
They would understand if we didnt leave but on the other hand, they would love to keep us there and that they would pay us on the other side of the bankruptcy.
They had been what this from the beginning of our firm we stayed with them and they remain a client today, a multimillion dollar annual clients with us today. So that's what we need we say partnership we're in this together with our clients nurture them over the years, they've been loyal to us and in return, we're helping them and courts when you do they.
That you're carrying more cost then you're getting on the revenue side, but we think this pays off from a long run provide us too.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Okay Mark Thank you.
Thank you once again ask that you. Please limit yourself to one question at the time you can place yourself back into queue for a follow up question like the things that have been.
And now that they could next question from Vincent Colicchio better than letting somebody saying your line is open. So please go ahead.
Yeah, Mike what a good morning, and worried that truck about yeah can you talk about a your pipeline to chefs pipeline in certain terms or to what extent, you're seeing cancellations versus village.
So most of it is delays our pipeline is is quite strong.
But we are seeing things pushed out we'll also see things slowed down so let's not do but the same timeline pace or project plan that we had developed in a in February.
So most of what we are sitting or delays, yes. There are few cancellations, but for the most part we're saying were pushed out best.
And then were what portion of your business is seeing financial assistance is there way to characterize that.
Oh I don't have an in terms of percentage and its you know I would say that you know I'll put it certainly the 80 20 rule that 80% or not and it's the a it's a 20% that are quite distressed that had been what that's a long period of time that we are working web because we would.
Like to remain engaged with them to continue what we have started with them when they know they need all work and we know that.
They've been loyal talk so you know would probably be that gauge, although I don't have it as an exact percentage of the revenue though.
Okay I'll go back to the queue. Thanks, Mike.
Thanks Vince.
Thank you and they'll be pay card next question from Joe Gomes from although can become your line is open. Please go ahead.
Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions.
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Real quick.
I'm going to check here. So on the March 11th car forecasts at that point in time list for 64 to 65 million in revenues and 5 million EBITDA.
All the actual numbers and can't really close on the revenue side, but you know fell short on the EBITDA.
Was that all co owner related that the EBITDA shortfall.
Glass you know stage three weeks of March or there other things mixed in there that caused the EBITDA to be below your your forecast of March 11th.
No. So you know as although we were moving at a faster pace than even the 60, Florida 65 million dollar a range Joe but the Oh, we have no. We had no live events in March or work began to see this actually in February out in Asia.
Singapore et cetera, then it will go over into Europe, and then into the United States, United States is actually behind both Asia and the U.S. in terms of its I would call. It gets reaction overall, but yes, I would say we felt like we would have had 2 million more revenue, which would have generated you know somewhere in neighborhood.
Plus million a handful of EBITDA for the quarter and that would of course about kind of where we thought we'd be at the top end.
Okay. Thank you all now and then just one quick follow up when you're talking about during the second quarter.
Guidance.
And your you know that you think you could double the EBITDA sequentially, even on a pretty significant decline in revenue and part of that was a result over cost out actions taken so far I wonder if you can probably give us a little more clarity on the type cost actions you can't give it a thought I have heard.
He said and correct me if I was wrong you Hadnt made any layoffs yet on the people side.
That's correct our cost actions were kind of in four buckets.
We took cost out on contract goes all discretionary spending stop.
Travel course stop a we did have some for a while not a lot and you didnt take some compensation actions and you bundle those all together that's number one that helps is and the second one that helps is is that we are anticipating.
I'm, a little higher margin coming out of they I would call up the business disruption services that were offering.
And mainly because of the speed in which the enterprises are asking us to do the work there is essentially a premium.
Or speed and therefore, our view is that we would have a bit of a higher margin on each service or most services delivered during Q2 the way we price. So you put the two together that's why we are feeling pretty good about where the EBITDA can show.
In Q2.
Okay. Thank you I'll get back and back in line.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Thank you and everything going next question. So my quote or do you guess from Stonegate capital markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hi, Good morning, Thank you for taking my questions.
Good morning, Mark I'm wondering what I was wondering if you got to maybe talk a little bit more about your expectations for cash flows as the year kind of progress is from.
Expectations of working capital Liquidations Capex are you guys continuing to look at a doing the stock buyback or that can be a pause just any sort of expectations that you can provide on cashless for that matter the ever be helpful.
Yeah, sorry, Thanks, Marco you know, we believe we have adequate liquidity to.
Weather the storm Oh, we have a big focus on a cash collections or can make sure Ah advisors are staying on top of our clients. As you saw we had good collections in the first quarter, we generated $4.6 billion or cash that compared to like millions.
The last year.
I could tell you have in April we could we continue to have a a strong collections no major capital requirements. During the year. So you know we will generate a.
Decent cash flow. This year, you could tell a in the second quarter.
Revenues are down, but our EBITDA is up.
And that could cause of lower cost and so obviously you don't have a collection timing delay or on the receivables. So we feel while we're in a good position and you know that's backed up by the fact that you know we have a $54 million revolver, which.
Sits there, but we believe we have adequate liquidity going forward.
And our leverage ratios for the quarter, where we're in good shape.
That's helpful. And then like I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more just from a high level general sense I'm not necessarily looking for longer term guidance here for the remainder of year, but.
Oh, just talking about your base case scenario, that's kind of how you're thinking about the impact or Corona virus on business in general your clients in your business.
And it sounded like from some of your prepared remarks that your expectation is.
This situation should run its course through the fiscal year in sort of returned to normal and.
I think there's an expectation that you'll have accelerated growth in fiscal 21, but if you can just kind of share your thoughts there on your base case scenarios, what are sort of the assumptions that are driving that and what level of confidence I guess you have on those under his friendship. Thanks.
Yeah, Okay. Good good Marco I look I think it's a bit of a crapshoot here, but.
Again, I would look at it we look at it by industry segment, and who's coming back what kind of anticipated what speed.
Certainly the travel retail hospitality.
Areas or are gonna be the slowest to come back we do not anticipate been coming back at anything close to normal during 2020, we think manufacturing easy its way and maybe towards the end of 2020, so that would be right behind that grouping.
Then you have a whole another group a around media and telecom and some of these other industry categories healthcare pharma.
Who Ah yes, there are some short term issues, but they're looking at more what I would call business recovery.
Business acceleration looks up so it's going to be some kind of a hybrid but I think for the balance of 2020 it'll be a.
It'll be somewhat muted and provided that you know people can actually travel again, which will have a bit I.
Determining factor on the economic situation everywhere a round around the world.
That 2021 could be quite an acceleration digital being at the front most clients.
Got to do lifts and that fits right down the center that fairway of kind of working transformational work that I as she does so that's what our current thinking is a markel.
Got it looks like I appreciate the time.
You got thank you.
Good thing I've, a follow up question from Vincent Colicchio Somebody's regarding Sir Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Yeah, you have like a I'm just wondering if you might want to take a shot at.
How's the difference you know we're happy we're about halfway through the quarter of June quarter.
You have any area can you help us think about the geography.
Which one should play out the best in which to the worst ER and the Q2 sequentially.
So Nick.
Tabby it by saying a it's a gas it's a health warning because we're only halfway through but if I start around the world groups I think Asia Pacific should be in good shape and one of the reasons why that is growing and we've talked about this phone calls before when government spending in that region. Then we can achieve.
She double digit growth.
And right now the government sector in Australia is pretty robust boss phone I mentioned, some of the wins and taxation and home office and so on Bob So I think Asian Pacific Todd will continue despite the environment, the a little bit better and of course, we know that the Australia New Zealand.
In area, when it's not quite quote unquote hit as hard as others and even though they were sheltered in place the that business interruption, there was a little bit less certainly on the government side and so I think that we can should be in good decent a decent shape.
I think in Europe. It varies by by country, I think Germany. Its now beginning to come back to about going up the schools I think shops, we will bring our people back to our office is a bear in June.
Yeah, and and so Germany, I think we'll be a steady player.
France, we literally just opened the office yesterday.
Stage way its branches beginning to come back, but I think that market overall was fairly flat.
Down for the moment, but flat overall.
And then the UK is a bit of a bit of a crapshoot to be honest I'm not sure exactly where the restrictions you're going to fall. Despite Boris his commentary on Sunday So.
We had a very good strong first quarter in the UK not so sure about Q2 and three at the moment.
And then the U.S., it's just a hybrid it's a hybrid of the club to clients. It's a hybrid of the industries because we have almost every industry here. Unlike in almost every other market world. We cover almost all 20 of the industry segments on here in the U.S. and so it will vary.
On its on its progress each quarter.
In the Americas, and that's probably the best I can give you in terms of description on how we see it at the moment dense.
Thanks for all their color.
Yeah, well I think I would add to the U.S. is that the public sector.
Which we talked about I think in the fourth quarter, we began to see that begins to pop up that also has been pretty decent in terms of it spending. We also note, though the state governments have been hit very hard so we'll see if that spending continues or not.
But they certainly have some woeful systems that have been exposed to all of this so from a technology standpoint. The need is fine. The question is well they allow that to continue to develop or not at the moment be answers yes.
And we'll see how about evolves over the next few quarters.
Thank you.
You bet.
Thank you we have no further questions at this time, but once again please.
God willing to ask a question.
Okay. So with that let me I'll, let me just close.
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