Q4 2019 China XD Plastics Company Ltd Earnings Call

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Hello, everyone.

Thank you all for joining us for the China, XD plastics fourth quarter 2000, Nike finding so himself conference call joining.

Joining me on the call today, Mr., Jie Han Chairman and CEO Mr. Chine way, My Chief operating Officer, and Chief Technology Officer, Mr., Taylor Dunn Chief Financial Officer.

Our year to date, China, XD plastics issue a press release announcing the fourth quarter 2019 cells.

So managements presentation I would like to refer to the safe Harbor statements in connection with today's conference call and remind I will defend those that meant humans prepared remarks doing to coal may contain forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties and that management may take.

Addition, no forward looking statements in response to your questions.

All statements other than statements off so we could affect contained forward looking statements, including but not limited to the convenes gross potential in international markets. They affect me and profitability of the company's Proto labs casing <unk> off the competes product mix shift to more.

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These forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties and not based on Covance expectations assumptions estimates and projections about the company and the industry accompanying therefore tends to protection off the safe Harbor pull forward looking statements that is continuing to.

Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Actual results may differ from those discussed today and we refer you to a more detailed discussion.

The risks and uncertainties in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

To supplement the financial results presented in accordance with the U.S. GAAP mentioned, when we will make reference to earnings before interest expense income tax depreciation and amortization, which we refer to as at the day. After that you said non-GAAP financial measure reconcile from net income which.

The company today to provide meaningful additional information to better understand it's up a waiting for filmless.

The table.

Well consulting net income to after that can be found on the earnings press release, you show earlier today.

I would now like to turn the call over to our chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Han Mr. Han will be speaking Chinese and I will check they keep opening remarks into English.

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Our physical 2019 results were consistent with the overall slow recovery of China auto industry.

Hey, tension between China, and United States, the stricter environmental protection Spender and their larger reduction of subsidies on new energy vehicles have generate a lot of pressure on the entire although industry in China, resulting in depressed domestic demand.

China XD has taken proactive measures to respond to these chains since the second quarter of 2019, we'd have a chief revenue by increase so often new categories of high end products.

60 mph, six produce will be higher pipe bomb material with higher selling prices domestic market.

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Happy to see an overall increase of 45.9 for saying, Hey, we try and be selling price off our products, partially offset the increase decrease.

Sales volume of 18.8% for the year in December 31st 2019 at the same time that come in has a chief of rapid increase of customer orders in non automobile application evidenced by our staples sell school <unk> several of them.

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We are committed to compete industry project for upgrading existing equipment for <unk>.

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And our team real project and can line wrote Hodja full equipment upgrade and factory revamping by the end up if the quota of Twentytwenty.

Bringing the production capacity in hate on Gen campus back to 290000 metric tons I.

At the same time, we expect to compete additional 10 production line.

Our sutron plant by the end of the full quota of Twentytwenty.

That's to bring the total capacity of says one thing to 300000 metric tons.

Together with the production capacity ramp up in Dubai, We will continue to remain our ability to make for the usual into more specialized high end product.

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With that I would now tend to go over to tailor then our CFO to walk you through our financial Ana.

Thank you is another thing to anyone who are joining the call today.

Before I review of the numbers, let me remind you that all theaters I discuss our well this reporting period.

First quarter 2018 nationalistic.

Additionally, in the year over year comparisons to the fourth quarter 2018.

And then is the producer comparison is too that the corridor between 19.

So let's go over our first quarter results.

Revenues were 310.5 million dollar for the first quarter community.

Compared to $349.8 million Synchronoss here.

Really they need a decrease of a 39.3 million dollar.

Or 11.2%.

The year over year decreases primarily as a combined results or 46.3 few person sales volume.

In addition of RMB against the U.S. dollar.

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And partially offset by.

Speaking I think I personally increasing average RMBS and.

As compared to those of last year.

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Revenues from the missing market decreased by.

$41.8 million or a point or person concur with that in its imperative last year.

And the combined results.

The decrease 47% in sales volume.

Depreciation of RMB against us dollars by 4.2%.

I'm personally I'll say by increasing 69.1% in average RMBS enterprise product.

I was comparable to those of us here.

According to China Association of automobile manufacturers.

During the first quarter 2019 viewpoint.

Inside of production and sales continue to narrow.

For the whole warm there could be mountains.

Released by increasing 0.03 pursuing all the production.

And do because of the discipline there would be person on the cells respectively.

Compared to its important when they too.

The company attempt is passed through efforts.

To spend our money areas and the customer basis.

And to meet their new requirements into American markets.

The company has achieved their skills.

232.1% sounds Chen.

And assist and sentencing central triangle.

We're still has so speakers of 30.3% most is China, 18.7% in this channel.

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69.8% was mainly due to increased sales of new categories of high end products P 66, and PS six.

Produced two is high priced raw materials with higher send him pricing them at the market.

So it's a high priced semi finished goods in domestic markets. During the three months period ended December 31st when making.

In overseas markets over what's your sales were 16.9 million dollar.

Or 5.4% total sales for the first quarter 2018, as compared to $15 million and accounting worse. It went deeper soon in total sales.

The same period last year.

After a successful production I don't production base in Dubai in November 2018, the company has established business relationships with new customers. You are you in India.

Ship products to end users Europe in Southeast Asia.

We're optimistic about any prospects of or business suspension overseas.

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Compared to 8.6 million dollar for the same period of 2018.

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The increase was primarily due to the increase of professional fees salary welfare traveling and transportation and the mean business expenses.

R&D expenses were 10.3 million dollar for the first quarter 2019.

Compared to $26.9 million plus inheriting an easy.

Revealing a decrease of.

Just $2.1 million were 59.9%.

The decrease was mainly due to the decreases.

15.9 million dollar in raw materials consumption.

As of December 31st 2019.

And the number of ongoing research and development products was 357.

I'm going in loss was $45 million has quite a 2019.

Compared to 24 point, when we didn't know of operating income in period last year.

Representing a decrease of 60 net $1 million worth 200.

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This substantial decrease is primarily due to the decrease was offered by 30% division of doubtful accounts 62 million dollar.

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Partially offset by the Los Angeles loses and distances.

Income tax expense was 2.2 million dollar for the has quite a plan that maybe we began the effective everything.

Negative 3.8%.

Compared to income has benefited.

Zero eminent dollar in it's imperative that year, representing an effective a certain negative.

One 6%.

The increase their respective encompass roots was primarily due to the increased operating loss Dubai Sheila.

Net loss was just if I mean in dollar for the first quarter between 19 compared to net income.

$30 million for that's Npls are representing a decrease of 78 million dollar works is under precinct.

Basic and diluted loss per share for the first quarter Tonight He would bose.

Seven cents compared to 20 cents.

Per share.

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The average number of shares used in the competition the basic during the losses per share for the three months ended December 31st 2019 was 66.9 million compared to 50 point I mean insurance earnings per share.

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Earnings before interest taxes, depreciation amortization was negative 20 to 27.3 million dollar whether it was quite between 19.

Compared to $30.1 million, but it's imperative to an 18.

Rather than it is 65.7 million dollar were 111.1 person.

For a detailed reconciliation of EBITDA, a non got married or two years to GAAP equivalent.

See the financial tables and end of the press release issued earlier today.

Now, let's turn to the patients as of December 31st to 19.

The company had.

220.4 billion dollar in the total amount of cash cash equivalents.

Restricted cash.

The decrease of 103.6 million dollar or 37.8% that's compared to.

$367 million as of December 31st turning to me.

What do you happen to us negative 14.1 million dollar and current ratio was.

I was comparing to the parent issue as you know one night as of December 31st when he.

So there's ever the as of December 31st I mean, I was 836.4 million dollar.

And nucleus of 11.7% as compared to $748.9 million.

Or 30% to an 18 million due to the conversion of 60 prefer stock into common.

Announced on September 26, 29.

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Hey, those are great Koby 19 in the PRC, Chen or the industry production and sales.

Just with decreased by 33.4% and 31.1% or the first four months when you're in 28.

According to the China Association of where the automobile manufacturers.

It has a ripple effect.

The impact to alternative supply chain, including the company.

Given the fact that the company had temporarily closed its manufacturing facilities offices and the PRC.

According to USDA requirements of the parents economy recurrence or the ongoing covina in pandemic has had and material out of US We act.

On our business operations.

Hi doesn't just a consensus and ongoing uncertainties the company will not be able to forecast initial guidance physical 2022 without notice.

Now before we open the call to your questions I'd like to know that question through access to imagine in China attempt Liberals their questions and answers.

Do you want to ask a question in Chinese precisely ASCII <unk> English for the benefit of our other business.

Please also note that would enable to this point questions about financial and operating results.

One of them as including the can offer we refer you to our already we should I said Mrs.

I will not be able to respond to questions about our directed to the principles of the going up or about the proposed transaction.

With that we'll now open the call if your question operator.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are now beginning to question and answer session. If you wish to answer your question. Please press star, one well telephone anyway or other than to be announced if you wish to cancel request.

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Because ah Theres a lot of things going on.

I'll start with a positive you guys are.

Crushed your guidance you did a lot better than your expectation.

The last conference call you had guidance for revenues for top line of 1.1 to 1.3.

Oh I pointed out you would already done more than 1.1 after three quarters. It was a little strange just this quarter strategy you ended up with one point.

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But your guidance significantly on the top line.

The glaring problem is of course, the Ah the large uncollectible as you call it.

Bill for some customer in the you a.

All right.

You must have known that was uncollectible during the fourth quarter and that actually in December is when you were able to close on the very very important financing so the banks.

We're willing to lend you money for the first time.

These state owned enterprise banks, or even though they knew that there was supposedly some sort of collection problems.

So to me that's a one off events.

And.

Can you tell us the status of that alone now okay. It's in a June now and.

That was uncollectable as of the ended the quarter.

I kinda paints the quarter negatively, but if it's a one off events it really doesn't matter going forward. Okay. So how does that stand now.

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Hey men's Terry I'm. So the answer comes from our Chairman Mr. Jie Han.

So first of all we're accrual such loss based on the U.S. GAAP and also obviously the number we're already by or are there KPMG.

Secondly, we still continue how efforts in connection and would think.

Sometime later this year, we'll be able to collect the outstanding amount.

Lastly, he doesn't necessarily believe Oh this is listening to the bank.

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I'm sorry go ahead.

So yes. This we view this as a one off events.

Okay then.

If you first of all.

Still unclear I mean the.

The sale to some customer in the you a basically was twice what you do for the whole year.

And so.

Whoever made that sale and approved it.

Yeah, you got a question, though what sort of due diligence they did but it sounds to me that you're going to collect it so you're going to write that losses back up this year all right. So.

By a one off of that you just dumped it into the fourth quarter.

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And the numbers look worse than they are because you're going to be able to recoup that and then put it back on as an income item for this year.

And the banks lunch you the money knowing that and that's the critical thing because they wouldn't be lending you money for the first time.

If you were showing some sort of.

You know shortfall of that magnitude.

But your revenues grew dramatically.

Your EBITDA, we're still very strong.

And.

For a long term shareholders. The key is how's the company going to go to be doing going forward Mr. Han obviously believes it will be fine because he's trying to buy the company.

And I know we're not.

Supposed to ask any questions regarding the offer but does mr. Han.

No I mean I know he knows this but does he I understand that when he makes an offer.

You know after not even reporting.

20 at four or anything like that.

At a cyclical low that's like four or 5% above the average trading prices a dollar time.

It is not only insulting alright because.

The offer could have.

Even if he had offered $1.30 or $1.40. It's still would be insulting would at least would be 30 or 40% above the price.

And what he must realize that shareholders would find that completely unacceptable, particularly if they've been holding the shares all these times.

And if.

If you're going to be recovering that.

The unpaid balance then you're looking at a company.

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He has made an offer at less than one times earnings is certainly a lot less than a ever Utah. Okay. If you come in a 145, even with that poor fourth quarter showing.

The dollar 10 times 66 million shares is about a 70 some odd million dollar. It's one half of every time. So it just makes no sense and it's inappropriate and shareholders are rightfully.

I'm upset about that sort of notion alright. So you should know that and he knows that anyway, all right. So its something that in the United States here.

Nobody would even try.

Because they would realize that they would be a class action lawsuit would be filed so what is the current book value of the company can you give me the shareholder equity please.

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First of all you asked me shareholder value at the end of last year.

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It was 836.4 million dollar.

And also your parents are coming from our chairman usage at home.

Oh he wanted to thank you for your understanding.

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Your your customer we believe that we'll be able to recoup.

Some hundred resolving sometime later this year.

Right, you already said that but so if you're going to collect to that.

Than the loss last year.

For the near Los since you only made.

The loss that occurred in the fourth quarter really isn't a loss all right.

Almost as if.

It was a new customer.

Whoever made the sales to that customer.

Hi, I do have done I looked at up due diligence visa represented over half your foreign sales.

And it doesn't make sense, you would make a sale to a new customer like that and not get paid so it's almost as if its purposely.

In the late so that the numbers would look bad I have to tell you that alright. So now after he makes an offer for about the value of the wholesale $1.10 times 66 million shares.

Oh, it's about $69 million $60 million, all right or 70 million. That's the whole amount of the uncollectible that is now going to be collectible this year. So.

It it just doesn't look very good and now he wants to buy the company. So a at that at the lowest price that is traded at a since he came public for the is a is brought a public essentially.

So anybody valuing the company would have to write the value back up based on the Collectability of that are of that sale and since your margins have gone up dramatically.

Because of the higher cost of goods sold then the company going forward is gonna be significantly more profitable your current book value by the well I'll point out.

There's about a.

12 times, what he's interested in buying a company that does that seem.

Like a fair assessment of the value of the company 12 times, what the offer is so.

Yes. These are things that just don't make any sense all right other than that the company got some.

However, the market knows the company got some very important financing.

Your revenues.

Right by a wide margin your projections for the year.

The only reason you're showing reduced income is because of this one sale that you are still not being very clear on.

If some new customer.

With that we we don't even know who it is but that customer is going to be paying you back anyway, and the banks that led to the money no. It otherwise it would have never close on the alone. So I just want Mr. Han to be very aware that this is not lost on on it.

Festers and if there's any.

Chance to try and.

Take the company private is dollar 10, it's not going to work.

From the viewpoint of shareholders that are not part of the consortium because.

There's no point in a grain do a deal at this level because its such as such a low price.

What would rather take the chance a in courts or just not voting for it to go through so I'll just leave.

You all with that there's a there's tremendous disappointment on the on my part as well as investors that I represents that they feel that this is not a very honest.

Or ethical.

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Maneuver by Mr. Han.

And Oh, you know you should know that I think he does he probably doesn't care but.

Got it needs to be said and I'm using my opportunity on the phone call right now to say that so I'll, let somebody else express their opinion.

So.

Well I'll be I'll be courteous and say thank you very much for the time.

Fair enough. Thank you and dozens of comments obviously.

As to the evaluation upon me on the market has a value on it in addition, I'm, especially community.

So the wiser, yeah, who will be hunter.

On behalf of especially committee and its shareholders.

Well as long as you brought him up the last time they made an offer for the company in February of 2017, you hired Duff and Phelps, but you never told US even though you had been asking number of times on conference calls.

What Duff and Phelps, what number Duff and Phelps it come up with when you had made the offer years ago or you just never told US. So you know what are we going to find out what.

Value the company.

It was assessed at by Duff and Phelps. This time around is that we're going to get an opportunity to get this independent appraisal.

So the thing that is very important to node that doesn't though.

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Measure community, you're not looking for the company. So we don't have any dialogue well communication with them regarding the including offer.

I'm sure you on their you're Gonna go from adequately time they will.

Yeah right action.

Or not.

Well at least who buys to especially me.

Well like they did last time I guess alright, Thank you Taylor.

I think in that.

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Your next question comes from Paul Paul from I'd investment management.

Your question.

Hi, Thanks for taking the call I just a quick question on your current offers if you can comment on them obviously the long young is.

An area that still being affected in China, and that's where are your main production facility is are you currently running for operations harder than <unk>. That's car production, we started in China.

If not you haven't met the when you'll be able to start producing again.

And also maybe just comment on this region and if you can comment on your part build the PDP production as well. Thank you.

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Hello, everyone.

Thank you all for joining us for the China, XD plastics fourth quarter 2000, Nike finding so themselves conference call joining.

Joining me on the call today are Mr., Jie, Han Chairman and CEO Mr. Chine way, My Chief operating Officer, and Chief Technology Officer, Mr., Taylor Dunn Chief Financial Officer.

Our year to date, China, XD plastics issue a press release announcing that fourth quarter 2019 cents iPhone managements presentation, I would like to refer to the safe Harbor statements in connection with today's conference call and we mine our defendants that management's prepared remarks doing.

Coal may contain forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties and that management may take a.

In addition, no forward looking statements Nissan two little questions.

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These forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties.

Based on Colin expectations assumptions estimates and projections about the company and the industry.

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Actual results may differ from those discussed today and we refer you to a more detailed discussion for the risks and uncertainties in the company's filings with the securities and exchange.

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Some of them and their financial results presented in accordance with the U.S. GAAP mentioned, when we will make reference to earnings before interest expense.

Income tax depreciation and amortization, which we refer to as at the dock appetite you said non-GAAP financial measure like in South from net income, which the company did east to provide meaningful additional information to better understand aesop awaiting fulfilled.

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But consulting net income to appetite can be found on the earnings press release easier today.

I would now like to turn the call over to our chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Han Mr. Han will be speaking in Chinese and I will check they keep opening remarks into English.

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Thank you ladies and thanks to everyone for joining the call today before I review of the numbers, let me remind you that all theaters I discuss our well this reporting period.

First quarter over 20, making nationalistic.

Additionally, any year over year comparisons to the first quarter 2018.

And then it's a crucial comparison is to the quarter between 19.

So let's go over our first quarter results.

Revenues were 310.5 million dollar for the first quarter 2019.

Fair to $349.8 million since your last year.

Really they need a decrease of a 39.3 million dollar.

Or 11.2%.

The year over year decreases primarily as a combined results or 46.3 few person sales volume depreciation of RMB against the U.S. dollar.

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Six 9.5%, increasing average RMB ascendon price of apart.

As compared to those of last year.

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The decrease or 47% in sales volume.

Depreciation of RMB against us donors by 4.2%.

And partially offset by increasing 69.1% in average RMBS enterprise products.

I was comparable to those of us here.

According to Chinas Association of automobile manufacturers.

During the first quarter 2019 viewpoint.

Inside of production and sales continue to narrow.

But the whole warm that could rebound as.

Witnessed by increasing 0.3 pursuant to the production.

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Compared to this impaired as intended.

The company attempt is parts to efforts.

We spend our marketing areas and customer basis.

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The company has achieved sales gross.

232.1% sounds Chen.

And 6.7% Central China.

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15.1% in southwest China, maybe a person you stream.

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Sales of a high priced semi finished goods in domestic markets. During the three months period ended December 31st when making.

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Or 5.4% told US shows for the first quarter 2018, as compared to $15 million and accounting worse when the pursuit in total sales.

The same period last year.

After a successful truck production at our production based seem to buy in November 2018. The company has established business relationships with new customers you would be in India.

Ship products and end users Europe, and South East Asia.

We're optimistic about the prospects about businesses mentioned overseas.

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Just $2.1 billion were 59.9%.

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As of December 31st 2018.

A number of ongoing research and development products was 300, and if you're saying.

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Negative 3.5%.

Compared to income benefit.

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Lighter year period.

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A detailed reconciliation of EBITDA, a non got married or two years to getting equivalent.

See the financial tables and into the press release issued earlier today.

Now, let's turn to the balance sheets as of December 31st to 19.

The company had.

$220.4 million in the total amount of cash cash equivalents and speak to cash.

The decrease of 130.6 million dollar, 37.8% that's compared to.

$867 million as of December 31st Twin engine.

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Was $836.1 million.

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It hasn't really affect impact to alternative supply chain, including.

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You put into his new requirements are becoming recurrence of down going putting it in pandemic has had a material out of Us Act.

Our business operations.

Doesn't just a consensus and ongoing uncertainties the company will not be able to forecast initial guidance physical 2022 without notice.

Now before we open the call Joe quite choose to note that question two exits to imagine in China.

Simply because they are quite shoes and users.

I do want to ask a question Chinese precisely ASCII English for the benefit of our business.

Please also note that we would need able to this point issues about all financial and operating results.

One of them as including the gun I'd offer we refer you to have already issued I should leases.

I will not be able to respond to questions that are directed to the principles moved to the going over about the proposed transaction.

With that we'll now open the call into question operator.

Ladies and gentlemen, and I'll begin the question and answer session. If you wish to answer your question. Please press star one telephone and where are they seem to be an out if you wish to cancel requests.

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Okay. Thanks for taking my question I'm I've got a lot of.

Because theres a lot of things going on.

I'll start with a positive you guys are.

Crushed your guidance you did a lot better than your expectation.

The last conference call you had guidance for revenues the top line of 1.1 to 1.3.

I pointed out you would already done more than 1.1 after three quarters shows a little strange just like this quarter Strange you ended up with one point.

For for instance are you beat.

Beat your guidance significantly on the top line.

The glaring problem is of course, the large uncollectible as you call it.

Bill for some customer in the you a.

All right.

You must have known that was uncollectible during the fourth quarter and that actually in December is when you were able to close on the very very important financing so the banks.

We're willing to lend you money for the first time.

These state owned enterprise banks.

Even though they knew that there was supposedly some sort of collection problems.

So to me that's a one off events.

And.

Can you tell us the status of that alone now okay. It's in June now and.

That was uncollectable as of the ended the quarter.

I kinda paints the quarter negatively, but if it's a one off events it really doesn't matter going forward. Okay. So how does that stand now.

I'm, a this sort of homes, all the hall or any change.

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So first of all we've accrued as such loss and based on the U.S. GAAP and also obviously the number we're only buy or are there you can keep on secondly, we still continue how efforts in connection and would think.

Sometime later this year, we'll be able to collect the outstanding amount.

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The sale to some customer in the EU, a basically was twice what you did for the whole year.

And so.

Whoever made that sale and approved it.

Yeah, you got a question what sort of due diligence they did but it sounds to me that you're going to collect yet so you're going to write that losses back up this year all right. So.

By a one off of that you just dumped it into the fourth quarter.

Hi.

And then numbers look worse than they are because you're going to be able to recoup that and put it back on as an income item for this year.

And the banks lunch you the money knowing that and that's the critical thing because they wouldn't be lending you money for the first time, if you were showing some sort of.

You know shortfall of that magnitude.

But your revenues grew dramatically.

Your EBITDA was still very strong.

And.

You know.

For a long term shareholders. The key is how the company going to go be doing going forward Mr. Han obviously believes it will be fine because he's trying to buy the company.

And I know we're not.

Supposed to ask any questions regarding the offer but does mr. Han.

No I mean I know he knows this but does he I understand that when he makes an offer.

You know aptar not even reporting.

20 at Ford anything like that.

At a cyclical low it's like four or 5% above the average trading prices a dollar time.

It is not only insulting alright because.

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Offer could have.

Even if he had offered $1.30 or $1.40. It's still would be insulting would at least would be 30 or 40% above the price.

And what he must realize that shareholders would find that completely unacceptable, particularly if they've been holding the shares all these times.

And if.

If you're going to be recovering that.

The unpaid balance then you're looking at a company.

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He's made an offer at less than one times earnings is certainly a lot less than a ever Utah. Okay. If you come in at 145, even with that poor fourth quarter showing.

The dollar 10 times 66 million shares is about a 70 some odd million dollar. It's one half of every time. So it just makes no sense and it's inappropriate and shareholders are rightfully.

Upset about that sort of notion all right. So you should know that and he knows that anyway, all right. So its something that in the United States here.

Nobody would even try.

Because they would realize that there would be a class action lawsuit would be filed so what is the current book value of the company can you give me the shareholder equity please.

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Well he wanted to thank you for your understanding.

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Your your customer we believe that we'll be able to recoup.

Sometimes we resolved and sometime later this year.

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For the near Los since you only made.

The loss that occurred in the fourth quarter really isn't a loss all right.

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It was a new customer.

Whoever made to sales to that customer.

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And it doesn't make sense, you would make a sale to a new customer like that and not get paid so it's almost as if its purposely.

In delayed so that the numbers would look bad I have to tell you that alright. So now after he makes an offer.

For about the value of the wholesale $1.10 times 66 million shares.

Oh, it's about $69 million $68 million, all right or 70 million. That's the whole amount of the uncollectible that is now going to be collectible. This year. So it. It just doesn't look very good and now he wants to buy the company. So a at that at the low.

This price that is traded at a since he came public for the US a is brought a public essentially so anybody valuing the company would have to write the value back up based on the collectability of that.

Sales and since your margins have gone up dramatically because of the higher cost of goods sold then the company going forward is gonna be significantly more profitable your current book value by the well I'll point out.

Is it about a.

12 times, what he's interested in buying a company that does that seem.

Like a fair assessment of the value of the company 12 times, what the offer is so.

Yeah. These are things that just don't make any sense alright other than that the company got some.

However, the market knows the company got some very important financing.

Your revenues.

Right by a wide margin your projections for the year.

The only reason you're showing reduced income is because of this one sale that you are still not being very clear on.

If some new customer.

Who currently we don't even know who it is but that customer is going to be paying you back anyway, and the banks that lunch you the money no. It otherwise it would have never closed on the loan. So I just want Mr. Han to be very aware that this is not lost on on it.

Masters and if there's any.

Chance to try and.

Take the company private is dollar 10, it's not going to work.

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In courts, or just not voting for it to go through so I'll just leave.

You know you all with that there's a there's tremendous disappointment on the on my part as well as investors that I represent that they feel that this is not a very honest.

Or ethical.

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Maneuver by Mr. Han.

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You know you should know that I think he does he probably doesn't care, but it needs to be said and I'm using my opportunity on the phone call right now to say that so I'll, let somebody else express their opinion.

So.

I'll be I'll be courteous and say thank you very much for the time.

Fair enough. Thank you and dozens of comments obviously.

As to the evaluation upon coming on the market has a value on it. In addition, especially committee has console advisor, yeah, who will be new copter.

On behalf and especially the meetings and its shareholders.

Well as long as you brought him up the last time they made an offer for the company in February of 2017, you hired Duff and Phelps, but you never told US even though you had been asking number of times on conference calls.

What Duff and Phelps, what number Duff and Phelps it come up with when you had made the offer years ago. You just never told US. So you know what are we going to find out what.

Value the company.

It was assessed at by definition Phelps. This time around is that we're going to get an opportunity to get this independent appraisal.

So I think Matt is very important to node that doesn't help.

Yeah hired a bye.

Special Committee, you're not looking for the company. So we don't have any.

Any.

Dialogue, well communication with them regarding the equal and offer.

I'm sure you on their you're going to go from there could be time will.

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Action.

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At least who buys to especially me.

Well like they did last time I guess alright, Thank you Taylor.

Thank you Matt.

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Hi, Thanks for taking the call.

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Over the long term we believe.

Good good business. So the gross margin probably will be normalized at the level of people seem to go by them.

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Product sales just so we know how relevant it is compared to traditional.

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Just want to follow up questions on maybe your capacity expansion in Capex.

We see in there you had around 230 million of cash on hand, but you also had commitment and the fourth quarter what are your line extension.

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[noise] I see no further factor I'll now hand circumference back to now we care one for closing remarks.

Yes.

On behalf of China, XD plastics, we want to thank you for your interest and participation in this call. If you would like to speak we asked for that he's coal either myself or painter.

During this often contact numbers, so all of us I'd and end up the past neat. Thank you.

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