Q2 2020 Trex Company Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you all for joining us today.
On the call our brains paradigm, President and Chief Executive Officer.
Dennis Schemm, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
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Thank you Bill good afternoon, everyone.
We welcome you to our second quarter 2020 earnings call.
We get into the quarter results, let me take a moment to take the people who made this quarter success possible first I commend the entire trex team for their hard work and dedication to ensure we maintain continuous operations, we were able to sell our products in a safe and effective manner. During the cobot 19 pandemic.
We're also immensely grateful to our channel partners, who had no small part contributed to the success we have seen this year.
Despite the unprecedented challenges arising from a pandemic they found ways to serve customers and keep their employees say, thank you again to the extended Trex team.
We continue to drive improvements across the company with a focused on health and safety of our employees the needs of our customers and operational excellence.
This disciplined approach allows us to execute through a challenging macro environment, while we continue to invest in the future and generate further shareholder value by all measures. This was a strong quarter for trucks, we increased revenue by 7%, it's fair to say that the resilience of the trex customer far surpass it.
Patients at the beginning of the pandemic when we saw a key states with major population centers shutdown large portions of their economies.
We increased EBITDA by 32% to $67.5 million.
We invested $40 million in the second quarter, primarily for capacity expansion.
And we achieved a 33% increase and diluted earnings per share to 81 cents.
Our sales growth reflected both the strength of the fast growing outdoor living category and the high demand for Trex decking and railing products, our trucks enhance decking products, which appeals to the more cost conscious consumer.
Significantly expanded the size of our addressable market and accelerated tractors ability to take share from wood, which today accounted for approximately 80% of decking materials used.
At the same time, Trex transcend and track select decking continue to grow appealing to a whole motors looking for advanced performance materials with market leading aesthetics.
We remain focused on allocating cash flow to our capacity expansion program with progress considerably in the second quarter by the ended the quarter. We started to three new production lives at our Nevada facility.
With these Nevada lines up and running we will now direct our primary attention to our new production facility in Virginia with the first of the new lives coming online in the first quarter of 2021.
We're also committed to our environmental social and governance heritage as we prepare to release our updated E.S.G. report in the next couple of weeks I wanted to share a few key improvements that we have made.
As a reminder, for those that may be newer to the truck story since inception, our decking products have been made with 95% recycled material content.
Recycled consumer and industrial polyethylene, Phil and reclaimed wood are the primary material sources for Trex decking.
In addition, our aluminum railing is made with approximately 50% recycled content.
Since our 2016 lifecycle analysis, the environmental footprint for Trex decking has improved across all impacts categories. We think this is particularly noteworthy given the increased production associated with the indicate the introduction of our new enhance decking product sourcing more material to support higher volume.
Upgrading our manufacturing operations and improving the output of legacy product lives.
We're very proud that the result of our water conservation efforts approximately 99% of the water used in our Virginia in Nevada facilities are now recycled.
Additionally, trex safety programs resulted in a 24% reduction in recordable incident rates over the same two year period, and we were able to achieve a 25% increase in retention of our hourly team during a period of very low unemployment rates.
Do the right thing is our operating philosophy and I'm convinced that it helped trex achieved 150 basis point improvement in gross margins during the quarter.
Trex residential gross margin improved by 80 basis points, primarily driven by material reduction in our enhanced product.
Which more than offset the increase cost associated with startup of the new lines in Nevada.
Trex commercial improved gross margin as well betting benefiting from the absence of low margin legacy contracts, coupled with the mix of higher margin contracts better execution and manufacturing cost savings. We continued to be encouraged by the progress being made at the commercial segment.
I'd like to welcome Lar Rogalski press them to the Trex executive team as President of tracks commercial products Lora came on board last week and has an impressive record of driving growth in implementing operating inefficiencies and her prior 10 years with train technologies and Johnson controls.
We're confident that she will further accelerate the momentum that we're seeing into business.
In summary, this was a strong execution quarter for tracks capping a first half where we saw a 9% sales growth within a challenging operating environment.
I'm pleased to report that the positive momentum we experienced in the second quarter has continued into the third quarter demand for our products and discussions with our channel partners and sales teams are providing us with increased visibility and confidence for the second half of the year.
We estimate consolidated net sales of 215 million to $225 million for the third quarter, representing year over year growth of 13% at the midpoint.
While we are encouraged by the current demand climate. We're further inspired by the opportunities for sustainable long term growth.
Many of you heard me say in the past where the very early stages are converting the large what market to low maintenance trex composite decking and railing.
We will see many of years growth opportunities ahead.
I'll now turn the call over to data to provide additional details on our financial results balance sheet and outlook.
Thank you, Brian and good afternoon to everyone on the line.
This was another period of strong financial performance for tracks consolidated net sales increased 7% to 221 million led by an 8% sales increase in trucks residential products. This impressive growth reflects robust and broad based demand for composite decking and railing products and our brand leadership, which is driving content.
You'd market share gains from our main competitor would.
Throughout the quarter, we continue to see unprecedented demand indicators from our websites, including Trex Dot Com index Dot com.
Consolidated gross margin in the second quarter increased 150 basis points year over year to 41.9%.
Trucks residential products gross margin expanded by 80 basis points to 42.5%.
Improvement is primarily related to our success in removing material from the Trex enhance board and improved throughput, which more than offset increased startup costs associated with our in a bottom lines.
We expect to return to the original Trex enhanced design by the ended the third quarter of 2020.
And as we've noted in the past, we will be bringing on labor in advance of the Virginia startup, which will have an impact on the second half of the year.
Trucks commercial products gross margin increased to 30.7% from 21.4%, reflecting our execution of higher margin products this quarter as well as an overall operating improvements.
SGN a expenses were 29 million compared to 36 million in the second quarter of 29 team as a percentage of net sales SGN aid declined to 13.2% compared to 17.3%.
The savings were primarily driven by disciplined spending as the effects of the pandemic played out.
Our branding and advertising expense was lower than normal as we pulled back on spending early in the quarter as many jurisdictions ordered the closure of the businesses in the construction industry and there were areas, where our channel partners closed.
Later in the quarter as closures were lifted and our channel partners reopened we began to increase our spending.
We expect to see spending on branding and advertising to return to a more normalized level of between 5% and 6% of sales as we move forward.
The tax rate in the second quarter was 25.6% up slightly compared to 25.2% in the year ago quarter.
Net income was 47 million or 81 cents per diluted share up 32% and 33%, respectively from 36 million or 61 cents per diluted share reported in the second quarter 2019.
EBITDA was up 32% to 68 million, while EBITDA margin expanded 580 basis points to 30.6%.
Our performance year to date has been equally strong.
Consolidated net sales were 421 million, representing a 9% increase from 2019 led by a 10% increase in Trex residential product sales to 396 million.
Year to date net income was 90 million or $1.54 cents per diluted share compared to 67 million or one dollar in 14 cents per diluted share.
EBITDA was up 34.9% to 126 million, while EBITDA margin expanded 570 basis points to 30%.
Moving to the balance sheet and cash flows.
Our 200 million capital expansion program, which will enable us to meet continued growth remains on track and within our expectations.
First half capital expenditures were 63 million compared to 19 million a year ago, which are primarily related to our capacity expansion program.
In May of 2020, we amended and restated our revolving credit agreement to provide us with an additional 100 million borrowing capacity, bringing our total revolver to 350 million.
The purpose of the additional 100 million in revolving credit is primarily to reduce risk associated with copas 19 pandemic.
We had no outstanding borrowings at the end of the quarter.
Reflecting our positive outlook. The Trex board of directors has approved a two for one stock split of the company's common shares the stock split will be in the form of the stock dividends to be distributed on September 14th 2020 to shareholders of record at the close of business on August 19th.
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I will now provide additional insight regarding expectations for the third quarter and full year 2020.
We expect consolidated net sales for the third quarter to be in the range of 215 million to 225 million.
We expect full year consolidated incremental gross margins to be 45% to 50% inclusive of additional kobin related expenses.
We expect full year consolidated SGN AG as a percentage of sales to improve by 80 to 100 basis points over the prior year.
Our tax rate is anticipated at approximately 25%.
We expect full year spending on capex to be in the range of 150 million to 170 million.
And Dave sales outstanding will be higher in the third quarter compared to the prior year because of our sales programs, which were set at the end of 2019.
Full year working capital will normalize to historical levels.
Now I'll return the call back to Brian.
Thanks Dennis.
I'm proud of the entire Trex team and the unrivaled strength of our channel partners are exceptional efforts and resilience of allow trex to execute our strategy and operate with excellence through very challenging times.
Through our combined efforts, we will continue to generate strong cash flows and reinvest that cash into our business to further build market share extend our cost leadership and provide significant returns to our shareholders operator I'd like to open the call for questions.
Thank you we will now begin the question answer session.
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Today's first question comes from Ryan Merkel of William Blair. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys congrats on the quarter. Thanks, Ryan I appreciate it.
So first off on the revenue guidance for Threeq Q looks like it assumes that you don't see a normal seasonality. This year. So is this mostly about the new capacity coming on line or is there some inventory channel selling going out.
I think we're seeing a little bit of both of those things going on the market is continuing to operate at quite strong levels inventories are lighter than the channel what like today. So I expect there will be some backfilling of the inventory in the channel during the course of the quarter, but I also expect to see significant sell through as well.
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Got it so I thought okay.
And then second question for the full year, the incremental gross margin guide implies gross margin down year over year in the second half.
Little bit more than I thought our order had that my model, but is this just a new lines coming on and this is unproductive labor and DNA or is there anything else. Yes. We started the year. Our guidance was 50% sets of time, we've increased the range 45 to 50 to take into account the cobot cost.
That are coming into the business, but yes exactly right in the back half of the year, we are seeing additional labor coming into our manufacturing facilities, primarily in Virginia, that's where the majority of the.
Labor will be as we begin to train them up for the new lines that will start in early 2021, we'll also see some of the depreciation from the new lines of started up in Nevada.
Got it perfect I'll pass on that thanks.
Your next question comes from so well.
Baird. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys.
Let's start on the quarter.
Is there any way to kind of frame up Fcs kind of put any differently lines, what capacity utilization looks like look like today and just are you seeing any kind of pressure on output still or should that currently lines kind of alleviate that the near term.
Yes so.
Real quickly within about two weeks after we enabled the lines we were up running at full capacity and we continue to be running at full capacity across the plant network.
Aspect I will continue doing that through the end of the year and as we bring on the new capacity will be using that capacity as well too.
Okay.
And I guess from a from a product portfolio standpoint have you seen any.
Pressure in certain areas of your portfolio. So for example, like on some of the entry level products I cant space X. I mean, do you see any sort of kind of kind of stocking.
Packs on those levers are you seeing a pretty healthy.
Victoria availability across your portfolio.
Oh all of the product lines continue to perform in line with our expectations. When we look at it as a percentage of the portfolio.
There could be more stock out in the channel. So from an availability perspective, we could see improved availability and that really goes across all of our product lines at the time and that's where this additional capacity is so important to the marketplace and to our customers.
Okay. Okay. So it doesn't sound like there is any sort of kind of incremental mixed impact in the back half of the year.
I wouldn't expect to see anything outside of our normal plant.
Okay, great. Good luck in second half guys nice quarter, Thanks, Tim Q.
Our next question comes from Keith Hughes Suntrust. Please go ahead.
Thank you I think you've said in the.
And the analogy me in the prepared statement that the enhanced design would be converted as of the ended the third quarter.
Are there some extra costs duplicate inventory stuff that you have to do in the third quarter to get that done efficiently.
We've been able to transition that product without having any inventory issues either on our ground or at our customers the product to form fit and function is exactly the same with the lighter board as it is the slightly heavier board along the way. So that's not been a problem for us or for the channel.
Okay.
And then the second should be the third quarter guide.
Do you have any sort of view of what's your commercial business will elected the third quarter, just up down sideways whatever.
There's definitely more movement and a little bit lesson visibility on the commercial business. We are seeing certain projects be pushed out to 2021, and we're also seeing other projects coming back again, we're not really seeing at this point any cancellations of those those projects along away. So I may feel a little more.
Utility on that number of course the growth expectations are inclusive of the consolidated number that we provided.
Okay and final question, you briefly mentioned inventory earlier, given how strong the channel as Ben.
We'll be again here in the in the third quarter.
Is there a possibility in though in the winter months, you might have to run more aggressively just kind of keep up where demand is the channel.
Spec that we will need to run pretty aggressively for quite some time as we bring up that new capacity in Winchester. Some of that we brought up and run at a 100% soon as its available.
Yes. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Matthew Bouley with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the questions.
Wanted to see got any more color around the the start up cost with Virginia, particularly you know just how are the costs are those the labor and startup cost in Virginia, or they greater than kind of or carry a greater cost and sort of the existing lines, starting up and does that anniversary.
In the second half of 21, how should we think about when that's fully phased in.
Yes, no thats it Thats a great question the cost will be higher in Winchester, Virginia, because there are more licenses. This is a bigger facility than what we saw ramping up in Nevada. This year. So then when you look forward to when the anniversary would occur it would roughly be.
The around the second quarter again or at the beginning of the third quarter of 2021.
Okay, Perfect and then just secondly, I wanted to ask about lumber just given the increase in the commodity there and tightness in that market does that does that flow into pricing for I guess pressure treated decking at all weather retailer or builders and sort of help that relative cost versus enhance.
Sure lumber price of lumber has gone up significantly over the past couple of months.
We'll see whether this is a sustained price increase in the market or once they get back to full capacity and get back to normal inventories. If it goes back to the more normalized price along the way something that we do keep keep an eye on I think I've always said in the past were minor changes in lumber really don't impact our strategy.
So instead of being 85 cents a foot for a normal piece of pressure tree, let's say it goes to 95 cents or drops down to.
75 cents for a period of time, that's not going to have an impact on our strategy immediately we see a more significant shift, especially on the upside maybe something we consider but something we do we do keep an eye out in the marketplace.
Okay. Thanks, guys congrats on the results. Thanks.
Our next question comes from two along with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys.
Yeah pretty impressive demand backdrop. It sounds like you can be running pretty full out for some time.
Do you have enough capacity at this juncture at least for the back half pretty kinda sustained low to mid teen growth trajectory and any color on how lead times are kinda shaking out through channel partners.
That kind of returned back to more normalized levels by year end.
It is still a seasonal business I expect that we will see some of the decking demand drop off later in the year as we normally see there will still be some inventory building going on in the back half the year.
So I think we're setting up for a strong back half a year, we haven't provided guidance for the last quarter.
Got it Okay. That's helpful and then from a.
Raw material standpoint, any limitations do the code and just getting recycled plastic given any bottlenecks and has that led to and tack on your cost side of things as well. Thanks a lot.
Early on we did see there were some challenges and getting some of the grocery related material.
Grocery is not a huge part of what we used as an overall mix. So we were able to pick up further industrial supplies along the way we didn't really see any sort of supply issues with the recycled materials that were buying clinical supplies available.
Oh, Thanks, a lot thanks.
Our next question comes for Rueben Garner we benchmark company. Please go ahead.
Thank you good afternoon, everybody and congrats on the quarter accurate.
Most of my questions have been asked I I've a follow up on.
On the capacity side, you mentioned, you're running full out if I guess the question is if demand is even in excess of of your expectations are in excess of what you guided for the third quarter would you be able to meet a higher level of of demand in the in the third quarter or.
Beyond or are you kind of.
Running up against what's you're able to produce at this point and you're really relying are not reliant waiting on that that Virginia facility as we get into next year to be able to kind of ramp up like you can sell additional capacity and Winchester is extremely important for us to be able to support the market in the way that we see that the growth is going.
And to be there in the future years for those three lines in Nevada are up and running at this point that will help us.
The decking side of the business be able to drive more product to the market.
Okay, and a quick follow up any or any changes at all and it's a pricing a in the marketplace at any of your price points have you and you made it increases or changes if any kind I guess.
Or do you anticipate doing so in the near future we continually look at pricing.
One of the things, we always do with pricing has any price changes would be communicated to our channel partners first we've not made any price changes during the course of 2020.
Great. Thanks, guys Congrats again.
Our next question comes from Burger with da Davidson. Please go ahead.
Yeah, Hi, Brian Dennis Thanks for the details and taking my questions.
First I was just curious could you talk about.
How much the branding and advertising component was a of the $7 million lower SGN a number.
And is that 80 to 100 basis points of leverage you're kind of talking about for this year is that a reasonable way that we can kind of think about the next couple of years or are there some kind of benefits in here in 2020.
Yes, correct, so SGN as a percentage of sales, it's certainly lower this quarter.
Because certain jurisdictions during the year right or in the beginning of the quarter businesses were closing down in that construction sector and as a result certain of our channel partners also shutdown as well.
As a result, we pulled back on some of that advertising and branding as we saw the reopening start to occur restrictions starting to lift we began to put that money back into play putting more branding and advertising back into the quarter.
Over the longer run, though we still expect to see our branding and advertising spend to be around 5% to 6% of sales.
So that seems to be something that makes sense for us on a historical basis and a go forward basis.
Got it okay. Thanks, Dennis and then just my second quickie could you help us think about residential DNA over the next couple of quarters and is there a good way to think about maybe a run rate exiting 2021, NAS Winchester too.
Ramps up.
We've not provided any specific guidance on DNA, but you're absolutely right. It will ramp up quite significantly, especially as those lines in Virginia start coming up and the first quarter of next year.
Let Dennis night take take that away and talk about what we can do maybe in the third quarter to help out I think you're going to see in the third quarter a change in DNA.
That will help you be able to model the number for next year, because it is quite a bit more capacity and Virginia than what we're opening in Nevada.
Got it okay. Thanks, Brian appreciate it good luck in the coming quarter. Thanks.
And our next question today comes from Alex Roshe would burn Burke. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions in the press release, you called out potential corporate expenses in that incremental gross margin number is this more of a caveat in the event that cases like again into impacts operations or does it just related to costs that will absolutely be incurred in the second half of the year, Yes, and yes, there will be.
Cost that we will incur in the back half of this year and just being able to manage the current regulations that are in place for four cobot today I feel really picks up both of those.
Okay got it and then secondly, it's on the commercial business I know Lars no from so that's been limited strategy talks thus far but should we expect any major changes in that segment marketing product strategy.
I wouldn't expect anything in the short term a major changes of what we're going after we've laid out our strategy to continue focusing on.
The large higher profile projects, which.
The company has always done very well it but also recognizing that there's a much larger market for many of the smaller project. Your malls, you're residential high rise office building things like that so clearly there'll be some questions about that I'm sure in the short term as that market place begins to shake out.
And we've got the utmost confidential and Laura to guide us through any strategy changes that may be necessary.
Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.
Your next question today comes from some Clark with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Hey, Thanks, good evening.
You raise your full year capital budget.
150 to 175 million. So can you just talk about what's driving that and whether that implies any change to your multiyear plan, that's 200 million sort of targeted for growth.
Thanks for the question that's a that's a really good question. The reality is the increase is mainly timing related we provided a range in the prior quarter of 140 to 160, we're only ratcheting that that low end to end the top end up by $10 million. So we feel really good about the range, but it's really timing.
Yeah.
Okay. That's helpful. And then can you just clarify whether your guidance for has seen a improvement includes the severance charges that were in the second quarter last year.
Yes, it would have included us yes.
And I appreciate the time, thanks, guys right.
Your next question comes from ours I go with B. Riley. Please go ahead.
Great quarter it sounds like congratulations thank you.
Brian can you provide us a little bit of idea how the sales in the quarter.
Expanded across.
Separate retail division.
Retail market in the wholesale market.
Sure.
When we last talked I have told everybody that April was a pretty normal month, while it was in line with our expectation, but we did see at that time, the expectation of of May falling off and it did a little bit early on with the various states that were closed and then picked up in the back half of May.
To June.
To deliver the revenue that we delivered.
In those states where.
Hi, why customers remain for the most part open.
We did see a bit of a a shift to those those retailers, but we saw that both of the products. They had on the shelf as well as two special order demand. We did see that shift back again as all of the channels were able to reopen again. So there was just a little bit about a onetime shift I don't see that is being so.
Thing that that will be ongoing there.
And when we look out into 2021 I understand you don't have guidance out there yet, but how should we think about mix shifts across.
The enhanced products and transcend and naturals.
We will it continue to focus on the opportunity to upsell our customers the strategy of launching enhance wasn't just about converting that lumber buyer at two X. The price of would it was about bringing them into the channel have the discussion I understand.
And that there are other product lines that may carry a higher level of static and a potential higher level of performance. That's exactly what we've seen now that we're a year and a half into that strategy. How will we see some mix shift I'm sure there will be some along the way we are working to convert that would marketplace and we made.
Say more people, who make that decision because of the cost within enhance basics that they're willing to make that change and install that product along the way.
That's inclusive of the strategy that we have and we're comfortable with that.
Thank you.
Thanks, Alex.
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Next question comes from Trey Grooms with Stephens. Please go ahead.
Hey, good afternoon, and I want to echo the congrats on the quarter afternoon. Thanks Trey.
So I want to go back to one of the questions asked earlier just to make sure I heard it right, but just as far as the timing when you're bringing this labor on and DNA is increasing.
In and Dennis I think you mentioned, you know that kind of being a.
Factor through kind of Twoq or Threeq you have of next year, but is that the first couple and make sure I heard that right and then secondly is that about the time when when you guys expect to have those lined up and running to the point, where I guess the volume kind of catches up with the labor in the other costs year.
Bringing on there is that the way we should think about that.
Let me, let me step back and answer that again, so just to make sure unclear on that so I would expect to see we're going to be ramping up with labor here in Q3 in Q4 to ready ourselves for those lines in Virginia coming online in the first quarter.
Of 2021, so we're bringing on labor now, it's going to start training them getting them geared up to be able to run those lines and then what you would see in Q1 those lines would start coming online and by the time, we get to like a Q3, yes, we should be anniversarying those those costs.
Yes.
We'll continue to be bringing labor on during the first quarter, it's not as if January 1st hit an all of a sudden entire building turns on there'll be a ramp up of the lines over the course of the first half of the year.
Understood. Okay. Thank you for the clarity there.
And.
Last one is just bigger picture.
With composites being about.
20% or so the market now and I.
I know clearly theres the expectation for years of of continued conversion there and weve known I think everybody's kind of seen those studies that suggests we could see.
That mix go to 35% or so over the next 10 years, maybe you are so.
But any update on how you guys are thinking about that or where do you think that mix can go over time.
Yeah, we think the opportunity is definitely there for that 35, 40% and even beyond when we look out over the past year add the success of the enhance launch I'll go back to the comments I made a with the last question that all of those customers didn't immediately Russian and by the entry level product.
They were there to have the discussion understand the composite products are affordable and will provide a lasting low maintenance product for them.
Moved up to enhance natural people, who came in looking for enhanced natural in some cases moved up to our select and to our transcend product along the way.
Because of that overwhelming demand that we've seen part of that.
We didn't have enough capacity to be able to support a just how much of that demand was going to be oh, we see that that top end could be could be quite a bit above that 35% to 40% over the longer term.
Got it Okay makes sense well. Thank you both in and thank you for taking my questions constraints.
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