Q2 2020 Intercorp Financial Services Inc Earnings Call
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What we bought it would translate into our operating or.
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The next couple of quarters.
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I don't read anything to get them quoted.
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No increase as well during the quarter capable just definitely.
Yesterday, we call them in the top line.
We have other expenses of 24% in a 40 basis and 7% getting basis. You can look net losses are they new York.
88, new they sold its about the big as far as a result.
Finally on slide 14, instead anyone that's gotta look a bit but they take place going forward what is some good take away.
And Paul.
On slide 14 guidance, we need to spend it Oh, he did a high level of uncertainty out there must have done.
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Thank you maintain solid net dot people given they kept them occasionally but will grow as well as adequate levels of liquidity.
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Thank you both commercial loan growth.
So yeah, we continued to be bucket, you to know would weaken multi wall bag.
Yes, no loan yields and they always kidney and that's despite the lower cost of funds in the month.
We expect a lower cost of the rest of the year. After the big like you said another second quarter.
We also expect every coleen, Steve given that rates already Q.
And we expect no that's all that's too costly they should be.
Okay, I said why I won't get killed the presentation.
Somebody decides key messages Luiz Felipe they introduced at the very beginning up if inflation.
Number one we have Joey agree they didn't have any type of situation, which we have substantially when compared to three public yet.
Number two I see anything if you recall there is one called low.
Both either funky.
Which should positively impact future.
He did just that plays continue to support our UK strategies, which translates <unk> growth guidance and business outlook for me the system.
Oh, Hi sold each and every day the Easter stocky Corpus was plus we are taking up the cautionary approach of yet Jeff can be expected no.
Insight double digit degrees goal in the quarter I think you cost containment initiatives already implemented each of the key operating company.
Actually affected the top line.
Thank you very much now we welcome any questions you may have.
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Bank of America. Please go ahead your line is open.
Hi, good morning, ladies Felipe Hello, and good morning, everyone.
Thank you for your presentation. My first question you saw provision charges as you mentioned, you'll be able to another provisions this quarter and dangerous affecting not downward trend in the next quarter's however, we would like to know that future level or are you trying to start quieter will normalize to the level.
We saw you into first quarter.
Do you think they continued to be it'll be tire.
Then my second question some diva.
Joe mentioned that you have but did you painted with 3.8 billion Solaris.
How much could you speak for that you might launch 3% not your total loan portfolio considering the first and the second round will be another 3.8 billion and I will appreciate it did you can break down.
What was your expectations for the long road.
Correct.
On the same phonemes, what have you seen would've been in that NIM pressure oneq, that's either in the impact from that Eva.
And then my last question, we saw the important reduction in operating expenses to mediate some of the impacts related to called me 19, So would it be reasonable to expect Opex to decline do you think too.
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Let me.
A couple of questions first regarding cost of risk.
Yes, we do believe mixes.
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I just mentioned.
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Working through the numbers and the models.
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We do expect.
The next quarters would be below where we don't do you expect to do do get to the metals free color.
We expect gossip, we used to be higher than prequalified Daryl.
We don't foresee that we would have to.
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Right. So we do see me declining a bit.
But to what we've seen a in default.
A I guess there was one workplaces, which I didn't get so he can you give me it's about the overall cost base, we do expect that given dark.
Metrics that are already Nathan we have taken since the beginning April.
Total cost.
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Around 5%.
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2000 trend than previous years, that's why we're shooting for.
Super helpful. Thank you very much reduced Felipe any good luck.
Your next question comes from the line.
With Scotia Bank. Please go ahead.
Hello. Thank you very much I have two questions. My first is on the cost of risk in provisioning decided the cost of risk of 13% for inter bank in the second quarter.
Also with the retail banking a 23.6%.
Based on the I guess this is spaces you mentioned on it for cross it precautionary approach.
And then expected loss model. So can you talk to the assumptions.
That you're making in this model.
In terms of the the length of the economic lengthen and depth of the economic downturn the lock down.
And expected recoveries that an important part of this that's the economy recovers next year.
And my second question is that you showed some pretty positive data.
Monthly data for July 2020.
Indicating recovery showing a in the presentation. They <unk> the credit card or credit and debit cards turned over the originations of payroll and mortgage loans fee income recovering.
Premiums recovering.
And assets over assets under management at Intel or though.
Back to where they were in February if you can talk perhaps of what you've seen in August and what so far in August and why.
You know what are the the the pros and cons here or that the positives that could make this continue or the concerns you have a it sounds like where we're hearing there they're putting some more restrictions on individuals in Peru.
Based on Coke.
Thank you.
Okay, they sometimes because of the here. Thanks for your question I'm going to go for it was.
Second question.
And.
Over the following defended trends that we see that we saw in July.
So in terms of GDP or these following the same trends.
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So I can we expect.
To continue recording inline with the overall expectation.
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That was have already gone through.
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Mistress yesterday, the new metrics were announced and although we don't actually because they have audits.
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But more kind of moral it places.
So so no big change it.
In the country overall, except for the Sunday Delta, which we have a marginal but.
In terms of their TV itself.
Oh, we do expect well close to be better than July in terms of GBP hopefully the month, you got to follow that pattern.
And you only youre right I think there.
Gets to that to the payment behavior of customers do not he's a very good month, because a peruvians received.
And our dependence receive an extra salary and so that's why we're so do night very positive intends bill payment patterns.
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So we do expect positive overcome berke to it.
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Which I mean I, we strongly believe we are well not very precautionary.
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We've done.
Adjustment in order to be very active I'm concerned I I'm going to pass it onto micaela because she can you explain a little bit more specific that we've done in order to move forward as much as opposed to pay as much as possible dissipate as much as possible.
The potential impact in terms of provision.
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Situation.
Okay. Thank you Miss anything and let me go through these specific yeah definitely make any effect that lost mother, ideally languages and lots of some of it wont be just so that you can't and understandably I'd be more widely D.A. within Oh caught up in spot whatsoever. It's anything unusual we bought it.
And I Wonder if oh.
Oh, yes, that's what we became the first quarter, we updated the macroeconomic body. So basically he will not situations the macroeconomic variables should reflect.
These changes of the environment, if you want a vehicle macroeconomic conditions principal leach.
As we all believe if he's nodding off we are on top and bottom doing some additional money a job.
Bolt on D.A. weekday portfolio in the commercial portfolio.
They said, Jeff I'd be done indeed, I get caught in consumer lending fault.
So they do most of that glad he is a.
A kind of slow in Pennsylvania, and in a big portion of the portfolio stuff beans escape.
Looking now she's yesterday the behavior of pain. These guys. So what she is doing.
Thank you the behavior of the schedule, so basically the different types of the scheduling whether or not place happy with.
Only one.
More than $1 or whether he kathy he or she is evident with it's odd structurally scheduling of that.
We are moving blips up but I am just stated we are kind of sending lately.
They're eating deterioration. So basically we are taking place on stage one to stage insights on stage.
This is the main reason why the nonperforming cultural and they still they see over total exposed to wait until I see.
You know lifestyle, increasing before reaching 13.4% page.
Hey, <unk> buddies Nicolas either Japanese attribute to the expected more than that number actually goes up to date glyphosate faces some big a Japanese.
And if he wants to see that specific movement.
They just to be over the official they got such as the portfolio we are facing demos.
Not really move somewhere around 22, but they do a ball for the first thing, but those are really loved the non live which.
He said he believes and once we start seeing their behavior. They if they need to get their needs. If applied we maybe able to adapt and that's fine, but the list I live with each school so.
We haven't done there.
On a one by one a cases not no.
They show you for small businesses, which is lucky he wasn't litigation that's more before but also in the news sites anything that's helpful. But none of those there are much more leasing pencil.
Thirdly, because of the but if they can also be cool off the telephone.
Yes, just to complement.
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I think.
The thing.
We see the after me had microphone fold in my past, but that will be keep the apart.
They don't enjoy.
Given that we're not that big that book Weve been able to give you something very tough to doing in December for funding as I've taken a one to one of the with contract with most of our customer not only to do that Ah Ah statistics and the magnitude, but also like more concrete quite scabies information of the auction.
Jason Mills, and that's what works it works team.
Those customers like 80% opt for some back over to Nancy goes.
In the hardest those birdie are the ones that are one of the higher cost of risk, but there's very limited impact in our portfolio. There on that 900 million saw this overall were more than 30 or close to 30 billion solid.
Exposure.
And then caused a unsecured financing.
For retail.
Customer Dr was strictly demos.
That's very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you.
Next week.
No side I went to Scotia Bank. Please go ahead your line is open.
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Hi, Thank you I have just a quick question on expenses I'm asking you mentioned you must have double digit cut and expenses this quarter and I just wanted to have a sense. If we are going to see a similar magnitude following quarter thing all this artifact.
You know on overall push by the bank.
Wanted to know.
And what magnitude you're expecting thank you.
Hi, Thank you.
Yeah, we would put a very strict.
Okay and cost containment program in place.
In the beginning of the Nick.
The disappointed that you could do happen like double loved him. If he wants because one is the cost control measures, but also.
That does significant load on either.
So some of that variable costs related to for instance, readied Park.
Disputing that.
Cutting costs or paid into two to two.
Just to certain strategic partners or even incentives two hours worked for naturally have been down because of these are not going to be it's always a beauty to recover that kaka variable cost will come up.
And hopefully with a corresponding increase and income.
And then.
Overall, the structural measure that we have been taken continue to date.
Your next thing so what I mentioned, we are shrinking, but the overall cost for we're shooting for being able to the overall cost eight.
2000 training to be I leave.
Close to 5% nowhere.
The previous year.
But very clear thank you.
Well.
Your next question comes from to line up Sebastiana gave away to Credicorp capital. Your line is like please proceed with your question.
Good morning, everyone. Thanks for the presentation.
A couple of questions. The first one if you could elaborate a bit more on day one off in fact that you recorded this quarter given them a indication of contract contractual cash flows.
Due to the laundry scanning and I would like to know how was that conducted and whether or not and even though it says he is a one off if we could potentially see.
Sure no additional impacts going forward on day 99 second question is regarding liquidity.
I was looking out the presentation and I didn't find it.
If you could provide a day LCR ratio that there that bank is running right now.
Or so.
Dnos second quarter that will be a very helpful.
Considering the current environment and finally I noticed on so that you your models your economic models I was suggesting.
A rebound of the economic activity in 2021 off 11.5% how does a are you assuming that our vaccine will come.
In a in early two any 21 or what what are you assuming on that 11.5% a GDP recovery.
Which looks which looks high a little bit high.
To me at least.
Okay, Hi, and if there's anything on your.
HM.
The your judgment is it's based on like a international Accountants, and that's where do you have to do you have to do an NPV value all.
Of the new.
Cash flow expected about getting those are the discount it should be back I'd be or you know interest rate or be it no and being the scope.
At the difference in the NPV there to be always you know there.
I'm out of the known it be.
He came to returning value or do you went up.
And they have to impact but.
That's a one time.
Oh gosh, it's a noncash event.
And then going forward once you start.
Collecting those loans, you will see Baltic if in fact month by month or quarter by quarter and.
To offset these one factor so.
Given the current situation, what we eat we expect anything good positive impact quarter by quarter.
Covering all of these loans that are being at least Ken.
And then we'd do more and.
Okay. If you are and sanitary conditions continue and we need you like again massive for scattered in actual injuries race, which I don't.
We will have to be sensitive feeder unfolds what's impressive.
Sage based on what Ricky I again nice.
I'm going to jump or third party.
No.
And could be.
And what we.
In terms of Microprojects right. It was.
I think that's in there you are saying we work with the mutual success like all your microphone. So we also moved out when more did you say in so that's the beauty cake.
The 11th attendees basically a rebound over the long battle.
Yeah, and without 40% or whatever and be a specific and.
Third quarter Uh Huh, that's running through the rest of the year. It would make that GDP for this year that would be very low and then the next that's for the rebound effect on a better control of the but then.
And those are the members that that's at the team.
Not specific to any correlation to Ah that's unique I mean.
In order for something like that.
For your question number two let me pass it onto Micaela.
I guess.
We didn't always have Afghan themselves a liquidity coverage ratios are we I Paramount I find it already in place we said.
At the beginning of June 19th themselves, So I guess any more than $264 last dose escalation.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
Our next question comes from a nice so don't wait to Santander. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Thank you all good morning to all long. Thank you for the presentation I'll like to go a little bit deeper on the discussion on marching up when we when we saw this base poor performance, we saw a 30 basis points contract, Sean Oh for the Newman launch basically not 10 10 basis points.
So for that.
But excuse interactive effect I would like to understand these 20 basis points. Obviously have also the effect of the change in the oil mix.
But what to what extent the lowered rates in both solace on bull ours are putting some pressure on the you're asking yields and also considering the current discussions in congress or some of them relate that to a potential interest rate caps for consumer launching through to what extent.
These putting some pressure on the banks ability to charge kind of rights on B.
Sepracor shrunk they they are reducing the rights for their customers. Thank you.
Does not mean, a andreas thank you for the questions. Let me go all the a big pop.
I would say that once you cross <unk> in this second quarter. The biggest impact of did you mean is related to the portfolio mix. So basically you see what has happened between retail and commercial.
Basically the volumes have done while we were still pass kind of 55% repaint now it's more close to 45%.
The portfolio that has the key demos has been good ideas credit cards.
You can't take out because they see a close to 10% in.
In the quarter. So that is what is good.
<unk> <unk> and Leach <unk>, Yeah, we think will fall into credit platform called if that's what we call there not should help me about moving up what's that.
It's only going to happen we believe.
And next year, but because even when we covering volumes, who we billing credits cats.
We expect uranium volumes for retail if they see that people can you tax to be below one year ago. So I always thought you don't think indicates that whole. They go with five that I just want to point out that the biggest eat that economy varies from a decrease in rate that Uh huh.
Do we began the skandi much low tech sector, a that's for sure mix eat what he or she is they need down a default.
Yeah, that's too close on your question about.
I think some congress the women, but right now.
Not really know those old separate ways the price.
I'll always I think it's amazing to me, Jason Gems of segments that we are serving.
And that goes in the trend you compare to two.
To do this this is a great nature.
That Congress discussion.
Starting.
We don't know where does that go into it.
However.
Yeah.
Just to close out.
That affect you know occur institutions like now obviously, you probably wouldn't it.
A situation very closely taking all the necessary measures in order to ensure that whatever.
Goes through its according to.
Oh preferences are in that part of.
But you got a framework through but that's a separate discussions in terms of college is backing out what segments. We have started now.
You know where our business model.
Perfect. Thank you I'm, they're not second question on the other active out to a part of a there are going according to your skin are you targeting the same market share that you've already interact tivo, one or he's going to be a different I want I'm given that these funds are intended more towards the DSMB me on.
Micro lending segments, which you US you mentioned before.
Not a bigger bigger spoke for your portfolio. The focus of these money view when you've got it is going to be to support your current clients already great going to use this money outside of opportunity to defend your penetration can be segments.
Yes, that's except for your question.
Yeah, we are targeting to get at the same level in terms of rack do you have to of what we got into that was probably a little bit below.
It correctly or one was mostly in our case directed to it.
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Two two main efforts to help existing customer both corporate medium size and small company I also it sounds like US okay. Good some new customers.
Oh credit for the bank, but.
Hi, Sun relationship before because different approach like you know two changes there it'll be in terms of our effort. We are aiming to go no work in terms of that type of the company and they will do before is how.
As much as we can it wouldn't liquidity to different types of companies, but also present opportunity for our for what you just mentioned.
We've been very conservative inserting yes. It is because it's it's a tough business to be in doing that cycle.
We're always.
Working on improving malls and whatnot, but that that has not been.
And Richard so from our perspective.
So we're just going back to business, but today, we have these opportunities to increase our client base through direct show more people go through these.
Tough situation, but also we have enabled us to they're much more about these segments in order to improve our more tilted a.
I'm.
Come up with better services for these cycles. So it's both we're gonna help I love to.
The new segments, and we'll be able to learn and be more close to these type of customer. So we do expect positive impact in terms of our relationship with these type of customer due directly.
Great. Thanks, so much.
Next question comes from duties Fernandez with JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
I think tourism and I have a follow up on RG <unk>.
I understood that we could said this can be pressured easier. So about 20 be truly have you for a long, but I also feel that the single stage three loans or four quarter coming quarters.
That could have any back 20 or no more people do right. So so and also have you ever shouldn't be a two year loans right you have to number one and so it is alone. These negative impacts if something doesn't really stayed on your balance sheet for awhile. So my question is how to peak margins right because I end there.
Good it will come down, but how much don't do think it's possible for margins true to keep under pressure.
My second question is a follow up on the phone with discussions if you can emirates, maybe the thought three views you were see there I think there was decent need to restrict cash there was another one on automatic school spani off of additional installments and we also have the additional pension withdrawal so issue.
I don't know like and maybe that's owned it seems that article see you should be and what did they start was on that that would be helpful. For us. Thank you.
Good morning, Julie it's all that but let me try to to grow a little dig deeper into the margin discussion, maybe and breaking it down between Eaton <unk> okay.
In fact in the commercial loan book, Okay, and taking a wait and see that discussion because actually eight none, but it's not a financial base like 10 basis points before they even we walk a little around 20 basis points.
Oh, yeah, right, but of course on so the news of the commercial loans overall specialty calls.
Last quarter, we thought body, he's going down because of Citi. Please seems like not forget there is an impact.
Yeah.
That's a big numbers there and then argues that wed already know kind of flows everything but love to September you get a fan I say, one we see when we looked at deposits follow me and have why do you topping weekend not so basically.
And besides the portfolio make schemes that that I described the phone, which is actually quite high because we'll see retail easily share over the Pope alone.
Oh 10 basis points in increased got even more than that what we've seen some of the flying he'll talk long and.
In the consumer and loan book stage heap Leach Pascagoula, some or do something to keep up with gave you need Oh well also it it's a mix Oh I wonder if things.
I mean, I wouldn't want to review and they're all guidance intense, meaning because really easy wouldn't be paying off the state of the any color there will never get portfolio in a number of things that what we are 14 for the second half of the year needs that we.
We've been no worse than what we've not seen in the first half the year why is the physical Utah they seem to extend the.
Think about alone and in fact, no well disciplined processes and he is also part of the for the state of the degree right, which means that the connection and loan book and only for the for the state of the football for let me know which started to change only.
Not the beep I would say the main reason why.
Plays in a now let me talk at all if want to Congress passes and if any.
They are Judy so yeah.
Covered obviously something that we are following very closely.
And first of all what's the buckets.
Congressman.
Obviously, they want to help Peruvians, you do anything okay. It because obviously the impact has been very big So we understand that was sympathetic with that I think I need you to a line or vicious you know there to come up with solutions that.
Couple of things first held through the US go through these crisis.
Okay that's taken.
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The institutional framework on.
I could be take a model that caught in Copenhagen, they built a very solid.
And then show industries that is very well regulated I'm back Oh, that's being felt in our called minutes ago, So and that's that framework.
And we see we are.
Working I can association and together with experts and trying to explain.
Gration to do it converts and would've made some progress and because we're bidding gene you said these and many of them are left that too early and then.
Started but so far.
Do you mean.
The tens of what it's been for both have been a changing in order to address some of the concern that the regulator Andrew.
Okay players in the system.
These having I'd also making sure that they're not that constitutional violations.
These trucks and so we are feeling and.
Waiting to see what happens we cannot predict tend to find out what sort of what we're doing the work that that's got nothing association or non financial players need to do no there to make sure we're going to whatever comes through.
Is there is something that if any that will definitely.
Get the objective for helping without they've indicated the system the bank we have dogs.
Also who's getting already probably the highest level in Latin America and after you've seen in over a number like the numbers were huge in terms of its calories in April I know, we're in humans and also structural so dangerous to Chris Weber really need to cope no. It doesn't have the specific dynamics of course.
The changes every day you know the latest developments are that their economy completion, he's asking to take more control all the projects related to the financial system, apparently they're gonna be successful, which is good news because it DC the wonder how exactly more technical support.
In terms of.
Preparing their there.
Paperwork.
Whatever steel or it's not that very few years, what the ultra deep sea. We are taking all the mentioned we're prepared to take all the necessary measures.
Make sure that whatever stem through it affects that wall. According to the regulatory frameworks and buy back where we are right. Some uncertainty on that from working in order for these two up though expected impact not unexpected.
You know things when they tell us inclusive.
Your next question comes from the line OFS capitals comments with HSBC. Please go ahead.
Good morning, [laughter], one more question about that much in and I realize that's we are discussing this today I'm going to kick into their matching we'd be lower end to take on healthy yeah. We understand that so but two we understand that there's going to be further decline in and <unk> net interest income from the level that we have seen in.
The second quarter, if that's what we should just picked up the so called <unk> fourth quarter should see in <unk> decline from that.
Okay, well up to second quarter.
Second I went to assure about I'm happy to give you guidance for next year. Obviously this is not again, because you're making lots of money.
How it up to you at this point expect to have it beginning to focus on 21.
And.
To do you have any considerations regarding that that I.
I have faces holding company cash and without a need sort of that's not need have you been them from the 5%.
[noise] does not mean God knows a yet just due to finalize their discussion and Mike, Yes, you're right and we are expecting a slight decline in net interest income.
The second half of the every process, if we do see nations and leasing yes.
And for that the talent and indeed has had any evidence indicates yeah hi, its very very early our focus is now.
No.
Thinking about dividend.
We're very focused on.
Executing our plan in helping customers go through the process on the back and.
We have strong capital, but probably more time to continue to give you the strength of our topic does that.
No.
Too early to tell but that focus would be in making sure we have right topic, a little in order to.
Great whatever extend to the impact of the something.
Our holding company level, where we have a obligations both on the operational of religion I was hoping nature as mentioned in his vision, we have uncle.
Oh gosh darn good resources that will.
And just that with a cash on hand that we have we wouldn't be able to comply with financial requirements in the Brady requirements for the holding company for the next four years and I know doubled up we help our related investments that we could also lifted.
With that not so that's not a specific concerns for us.
That's really can pick it up.
<unk> combos catalogue, let me just.
One more thing sorry on the in on the discussion and margins and I mean on the often it trends now we will see us I wasn't nation net interest income going down into second half of the yet, but we have both seen gun in other income recoveries from the low level.
Fair enough.
So those two.
As a kind of fed levy. Please note that that we will see nothing can be seen can be because when you're expecting kind of picking up.
And these were covering tea.
Small screen from the critical.
Yes, yes, but not only gay cat now because actually I mean, the most impacted seats Kathy gossiping come back also on the retail in commercial banking.
He's talking about that because they don't have enough to see if it's not so we are expected to be calling in most of the fees. We should have shown that number or something like that I will try to wait at almost 80% of people forget it.
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Your next question comes from the line of showing that gallstone with <unk>.
Please proceed with your question.
Hi, Good morning. Thank you for taking my question I just have one.
One question, but he's not really I personally is just a double check my understanding some of my goodness comments and on and that question on on a copy tell I'm gonna be.
In the first thing is that's not going into two me kind of comment on on that documents the company, Oh expertise and not be folks actually.
He's got nacco and incentive for you.
To move back when clients.
Do I feel I pay to because of exposure three forks seem that exposure going forward the embedded in that capital clients is nowhere I I think on fees are are there.
Okay, and I guess, you have died incentive to doing that in coming months no decline.
Add to that type of program.
And my second question. My second question will be <unk>, you are running currently updates on devaluation of your guarantee.
Hey, already babies are waiver from the company tendency of for finance.
It does updates invigorate month and put funding.
[noise] Hi, sorry, you said you pay on your personal.
I see that actually is that correct.
A program is designed to help.
I guess would there be green tea, and they're working capital requirements.
Your suppliers to phase and payroll.
And actually you cannot use that money to pay a prepaid international gnomes older than current its told it's kind of kind of make no. So so given buried by like deciding on so by the way, we see let's wait to strengthen our customer.
In terms of our company.
Because there is in fact for port for company.
It's not that incentive or is there because they're getting patients.
All these new we went to build lasting companion not just to do it recovered partner.
Okay.
And then you can you repeat your second question Gary completely.
It is just related to guarantee and usually you have to make and releases. So they want it sounds like guarantees and you will be themes.
Or they will likely and in any of their portfolio do you have.
So in you know, there's one thing that the banking lithium finest have gave away waivers to actually not have they those valuations.
The cooling.
On fine.
So my question was he very sad fascination with them as a bank and then he leaves you are running and currently.
Okay. That's all for example in mortgages, if you're out baiding, they run or anything else well down the line assets on mortgages et cetera.
[noise] yeah, Okay fair enough on that front that superintendency, specifically for the banking, there's two centsfive not issues any specific relationship. We are doing business is neutral if we need to.
We kind of you've raised it because it is starting to do any update or by you or does of course, the Iraqi isn't a portfolio. We just do it and this is Jason if I do it we take that into consideration I've not seen in fact, there is specifically for mortgages alone.
To value is around 55%. So we have ample capacity there in terms to too.
Hey, I guess any potential reduction in the value of guarantee it but no it's going to try to do better.
And they're not being regulation and activate spending to bring tendency for the banking system.
Yeah, I think if you can do with the bad because we have been doing pretty good.
Perfect. Thank you very much.
It works.
Our next question comes from Jon Thompson.
Please go ahead.
Hi, there thanks, we sleep and they cannot apologies. If this question is already being asked but my line is dropped a few times. So Paul just everyone else itself, there, but when you kind of silly. When you say you expect and I have to decline is that from the reported second quarter basis or is that.
After adding back the onetime charge.
Yes, Hi, Yeah, no. That's after having adopted why not catch something they normalize five first hand back that we have this office.
Okay.
Got it.
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That's it.
Yes.
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More detail on the Threeq there'll be people eat retail loans.
Yes.
It is due to temporary relief programs renegotiated loans grace periods et cetera.
Hi, I guess, maybe too I guess it we've covered this already and specifically we've seen really take loans again, we see when they launch is would be did decline into creating kind of portfolio, which is the one is a bit higher yields they want that has impact.
The most no. Yes. There is also an impact from that we need programs et cetera. That's for sure. The biggest impact is the portfolio needs and we feel this weekend.
Thank you and it appears that we have no further questions at this time I would like to turn the floor back over to me just go south of for any closing remarks.
Okay. Thank you everybody for joining me in these calls a I hope we haven't been able to give you. Some E. Additionally, information, even if not only inflammation, but you would pop kids.
And we'll a in leasing to reach out there we'd be set parting thoughts. Thank you very much.
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