Q3 2020 Editas Medicine Inc Earnings Call
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Operator: Thank you for your patience. [inaudible] BF-WATCH TV 2021, Good afternoon and welcome to Editas Medicine's third quarter 2020 conference call. All participants are now in listen-only mode.
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Operator: There will be a question and answer session at the end of this call. Please be advised that this call is being recorded at the company's request. I would now like to turn the call over to Mark Mulliken, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations at Editas Medicine. Thank you, operator.
Mark Mulliken: Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter 2020 conference call. Earlier this afternoon, we issued a press release providing our financial results and corporate updates for the third quarter of 2020. A replay of today's call will be available on the investor section of our website approximately two hours after its completion.
Mark Mulliken: After our prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q&A. As a reminder, various remarks that we make during this call about the company's future expectations, plans, and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the risk factors section of our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q, which is on file with the SEC. In addition, any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. Except as required by law, we specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, even if our views change.
The company's future expectations plans and prospects constitute forward looking statements for purposes of the Safe Harbor provisions under the private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Cindy Collins: Now, I will turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Cindy Collins. Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon.
Cindy Collins: And thank you, everyone, for joining us for a corporate update call for the third quarter of 2020. In addition to Mark, I am joined by Charlie Albright, our Chief Scientific Officer, and Michelle Robertson, our Chief Financial Officer. Our progress during the third quarter has laid an important foundation for the advancement of our best-in-class, in vivo, and ex vivo CRISPR medicine pipeline. We resume dosing in the Brilliant Phase 1-2 trial, the first clinical trial of an in vivo CRISPR medicine, while advancing our engineered cell medicine to treat sickle cell disease and cancer towards the clinic. Starting with our In Vivo program. Regaining full operating control of our ocular programs through our new agreement with AbbVie provides us with valuable flexibility as we work to strategically advance our pipeline.
Cancer towards the clinic.
Starting with our in vivo programs.
Regaining full operating control of our ocular programs through our new agreement with Abbvie provides us with valuable flexibility as we work to strategically advance our pipeline.
Cindy Collins: We have transferred the CRO contracts and the IND for the Phase 1-2 Brilliance Trial of Edit 101 for LCA-10 back to Editas, and we plan to finish transferring CMC activities in the fourth quarter. We are pleased to report that we have completed dosing of the first cohort in Brilliance, and enrollment remains active. However, we are experiencing delays due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, which has made the logistics of screening and dosing patients more challenging, particularly patients residing outside the United States.
Cindy Collins: We are making every effort to accelerate enrollment in this landmark trial that holds the potential to make blind people see again. Turning to our ex vivo CRISPR cell medicines, we remain on track for an IND filing for EDIT-301 in the fourth quarter and are proud to be one step closer to bringing a potential best-in-class medicine to patients with sickle cell disease. We will present new EDIT 301 data as well as our progress in building a robust, scalable manufacturing platform for the program at the upcoming American Society of Hematology, or ASH, meeting in December. On the regulatory front, we were pleased to announce that we received Rare Pediatric Disease Designation from the U.S. FDA for Edit 301. This designation is a significant milestone that highlights the serious and life-threatening nature of sickle cell disease.
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On the regulatory front.
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This designation is a significant milestone that highlight the serious and life threatening nature of sickle cell disease.
Cindy Collins: In Oncology, we are advancing Edit 201, our allogeneic NK cell medicine, to treat solid tumors. We will present the preclinical data at ASH, which shows increased effector function of EDIT201 as compared to non-edited NK cells, and we'll also show data at the upcoming Society for Immunotherapy of Cancer, or CISTI, annual meeting. Before handing the call over to Charlie for more detailed updates on our pipeline, I would like to touch on some corporate highlights from the quarter.
In oncology, we are advancing at it to a one our allogeneic NK cell medicine to treat solid tumors we.
We will present, the preclinical data at Ash, which show increased effector function of added tool one as compared to non edited NK cells.
And we'll also show data at the upcoming society for immunotherapy of cancer or Society annual meeting.
Cindy Collins: Our manufacturing agreements with Azure Group and Catalan provide us with capacity and flexibility as we advance our programs into the clinic. These agreements support the preclinical and clinical development of our pipeline, including Edit 101, Edit 301, and Edit 201. We are proud to have established a strong manufacturing program to support the development of our programs, particularly given the importance of having scalable, clinic-ready manufacturing in place to support the delivery of AAV and cell-based therapies. On the intellectual property front, we were pleased with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's recent decision granting the Broad Institute's Motion for Priority Benefit in the ongoing interference proceedings regarding certain Broad CRISPR-Cas9 patent As a result of this decision, Broad enters into the priority phase of the interference as the senior party, while the opposition remains the junior party for purposes of determining which entity was the first to invent the use of CRISPR-Cas9 for gene editing in eukaryotic cells. As a reminder, the junior party carries the burden of proof in the proceedings.
Cindy Collins: The proceedings remain ongoing with motions, requests, and observations expected to be filed by both parties over the next six months in preparation for another round of oral arguments. We look forward to the resolution of these proceedings and remain confident that the outcome will be positive for the Broad Institute and, by extension, Editas Medicine. With that overview, I would now like to turn the call over to our Chief Scientific Officer, Charlie Albright, to discuss our pipeline updates. Thanks, Cindy, and thank you for joining the call today. Starting with our in-vivo editing metadata,
The proceedings remain ongoing with motions requests and observations expected to be filed by both parties over the next six months in preparation for another round of oral arguments we.
Charlie Albright: We continue to make progress with our ocular programs and are pleased to report the completion of dosing of the first cohort in the Brilliance Trial, Edit 101, for LCA-10. As Cindy mentioned, we've experienced slower enrollment due to the COVID-19 pandemic and remain eager to advance the trial to bring this potentially transformative medicine to patients with LCA-10. Switching gears to our engineered cell medicines, an important strategic pillar at Editas that continues to gain momentum, we continue to make progress with EDIT 301, our autologous cell medicine being developed as a potential best-in-class, durable medicine for sickle cell disease. We remain on track to file a 90 for EDIT 301 by year end. In addition, we've identified the lead principal investigator of the trial, engaged a contract research organization to support the trial, and plan to hold an investigator meeting before year-end.
Charlie Albright: As a reminder, EDIT-301 leverages our proprietary CAS-12a to directly edit the beta-globin locus, where the mutation that causes sickle cell disease is found. Editing at this site increases fetal hemoglobin more than can be achieved by editing at the PC11A enhancer region. We believe this increased fetal hemoglobin will translate into better patient outcomes. Furthermore, our editing approach is supported by Human Genetics. Some people with high levels of fetal hemoglobin due to mutations in the region we are editing did not have symptoms of sickle cell disease. By contrast, editing at the BCLNA site is not supported by human genetic data.
We believe this increase fetal hemoglobin will translate into better patient outcomes.
Furthermore, our editing approach is supported by human genetics as some people with high levels of fetal hemoglobin due to mutations in the region. We are editing did not have symptoms. The sickle cell disease. In contrast editing it would be similar in a site is not supported by human genetic data.
Charlie Albright: We look forward to presenting additional data on Edit 301 at the upcoming ASH annual meeting. The presentation will detail successful on-target editing of CD34 cells from healthy donors and sickle cell disease patients using our proprietary Cas12a. In these studies, we will show that adding was efficient at greater than 90% and specific as there were no measurable off-targets. Furthermore, editing of CD34 cells from healthy donors and sickle cell patients led to robust fetal hemoglobin induction. Red blood cells derived from editing of the sickle cell patient CD34 cells show that this increased fetal hemoglobin reduced the negative consequences of sickle hemoglobin.
We look forward to presenting additional data on editorial one at the upcoming Ash annual meeting.
Charlie Albright: Finally, we will show more than 90% editing of CD34 cells from healthy donors and sickle cell disease patients with a functionally closed semi-automated system. We know that we are editing the long-term progenitors in this experiment since we found more than 90% engraftment of the edited cells in mice. These data together support our ability to manufacture EDIT 301 at scale. Taken together, these data support the advancement of Edith 301, a medicine with the potential to transform the lives of sickle cell patients. Moving next to our oncology programs, we continue to make progress with EDIT 201, our Edited Healthy Donor Derived NK Cell Medicine. As a reminder, EDIT 201 uses our proprietary CAS12A to knock out the CISH and TGF beta genes. This is a negative regulator of the IL-15 pathway, a major survival pathway for NK cells. TGF-beta is a well-known inhibitor of immune cell function in the tumor microenvironment.
Function the tumor microenvironment, we look forward to presenting data at the upcoming ash and sits meetings at ash, we will present data showing the incase sales with fish and TGF beta knockouts or more potent than unentered itself, particularly in the presence of TGF beta.
Charlie Albright: We look forward to presenting data at the upcoming ASH and CISC meetings. At ASH, we will present data showing that NK cells with CISH and TGF-beta knockouts are more potent than unedited cells, particularly in the presence of TGF-beta. We will also show that the combination of therapeutic antibodies with ETA-201 further enhances tumor cell killing.
We will also show that the combination of therapeutic antibody so that at two O. One further enhances tumor cell killing.
Charlie Albright: These and other data support the continued advancement of Eta 2.0.1, a medicine with the potential to provide valuable benefit to cancer patients. We also continue to progress our engineered iPSC-derived NK cell medicine. At the upcoming ASH meeting, we will show that Knockout is Fish and TGF Beta with Cas12a Enhances INK Pose. Specifically, double knockout clones, which were differentiated into INK cells, were more effective than control INK cells in killing tumor cells in a spheroid model.
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Charlie Albright: These data support the potential of our INK program as an off-the-shelf cell therapy to address a broad range of oncology, and further, we expect that these INK cells will avoid the challenges associated with T-cell immunotherapies such as graft-versus-host disease and cytokine release syndrome. We're excited by our progress, and we will continue to provide periodic updates on our INK program. Overall, we've made considerable progress across our two pillars. We're on track to file our IND for EDIT 301 this year, and we continue to dose EDIT 101, the first-ever CRISPR and VIVA medicine. We're proud of our progress and look forward to updating you in the future on our pipeline progress. With that, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Michelle Robertson. Thank you, Charlie. And good afternoon, everyone. Editas remains in a strong financial position as we advance our portfolio of experimental CRISPR medicine. Our cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities as of September 30th were $541 million, compared to $599 million as of June 30th, 2020.
Michelle Robertson: The proceeds we raised from our equity offering last quarter have strengthened our balance sheet, and we expect our cash balance will fund our operating plan into 2023. This strength and balance sheet leave us well positioned to continue execution across our clinical and preclinical pipeline, funding both our ongoing brilliance trial and also enabling the advancement of additional in vivo and ex vivo candidates into the clinic. Revenue is $62.8 million for the third quarter of 2020 compared to $3.8 million for the same period last year.
Michelle Robertson: The increase in revenue is a result of the company recognizing the remaining deferred revenue balance related to the Allergan collaboration, offset by certain fees paid to Allergan in connection with the termination of our previous agreement. Research and development expenses for the third quarter of 2020 were $34 million, compared to $23 million for the same period last year. The increase in our R&D expenses was attributed primarily to an increase in expenses related to the clinical and manufacturing development of EDIT 101 and our other programs, including a one-time expense of $5 million for reacquiring the LCA-10 license from Allegan. In addition, the company continued to invest in the clinical and CMC organizations, which resulted in an increase in employee and facility-related expenses as compared to the prior year. General and administrative expenses for the third quarter of 2020 were $19.9 million, compared to $16 million for the same period last year.
Michelle Robertson: The increase in our G&A expenses was attributed primarily to an increase in expenses for professional service fees incurred by the company in connection with the termination of the Allergan Agreement, as well as an increase in employee and facility-related expenses. Total operating expense for the third quarter of 2020 was $48 million, net of non-cash stock-based compensation expense of $5.8 million. At this time, we do not expect any material negative financial impact from COVID-19. We will continue to monitor the situation and provide an update in the future. With that, I'll now turn the call back over to Cindy. Thank you, Michelle.
Cindy Collins: I'm incredibly proud of our progress, which has been achieved through the dedication of our strength and leadership team, employees, and valued partners. We have advanced our two strategic pillars and are encouraged by our momentum as we aim to provide differentiated CRISPR medicines that have the potential to revolutionize the treatment of genetic blindness, cancer, sickle cell disease, and neurological conditions. As the first and only company to have administered an in vivo CRISPR medicine, we have carved our place as a leader in the genomic medicines field. The presentation of our data and strategy for engineered cell medicines, which leverage our differentiated Cas12a editing platform, marks a new phase of development at Editas, particularly for our oncology program. These data, combined with a strong foundation for scalable manufacturing, leaves us well positioned to advance these medicines into the clinic. We are excited about our progress, and we look forward to advancing more medicines into and through the clinic. We thank all of you for your continued interest and support. With that, we will open the call for Q&A. Operator.
Leaves us well positioned to advance these medicines to the clinic.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press the star, then the number one key on your touch-tone telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Corey Kazimoff with JP Morgan. Your line is now open. Hey, thank you so much for taking my question. This is a turnaround for Corey.
That is your and we we don't have any plans at this point in time to bring that Holy and how are we will evaluate our options as we move the program forward and we do believe we have gained ground with the most recent announcements on bluebirds.
Unknown Attendee: So I think it was touched on a little bit in the prepared remarks, but the FDA clearly has high standards with gene therapies these days, particularly with the recent news. So does your manufacturing approach with edit 301 change at all, especially with what you use in the clinic next year? And do you see this as a potential way to perhaps gain some ground on competitors? And then, just lastly, if you have any longer-term plans of bringing them any [inaudible] Thank you for your question. First of all, the manufacturing for EDIT 301 is being done in-house through the leased space, clean room space that we have at Azure.
Cindy Collins: And we don't have any plans at this point in time to bring that wholly in-house. We will evaluate our options as we move the program forward. And we do believe we have gained ground with the most recent announcement on Bluebird's delay in PLA submission. And we have always believed that during the COVID period, we were making up ground while we were working on our IND.
Cindy Collins: So we feel that we're in a very competitive position with the 301 program. Great. Our next question comes from Gina Wang with Barclays. Your line is now open. Hi, this is Sheldon on behalf of Gina Wang.
Unknown Attendee: Thanks for taking our questions. So I have two questions, if I may. Hi, this is Sheldon on behalf of GINA.
Unknown Attendee: Thanks for taking our questions. So I have two questions, if I may. First, about EDIT 101. When can we expect some initial data presentation, either from the low dose cohort or after you do some additional patients? And the other one is about EDIT 201. So after the presentation, what's your next step in preclinical and clinical development? Have you identified any...
We have now.
Achieved the dosing of the first cohort and were.
Eager to move forward, but if it will be largely dependent on the new Cmos view of how she wants to think about releasing data going forward. Charlie you want to take the second question.
Cindy Collins: Particular tumor type that can be susceptible, more susceptible to NK therapy. Thank you for your question. I will take the first question, and then I'll ask Carly to address the second issue. We have not determined when we will disclose the data at this point in time. We have a new CMO who will be joining us, who we'll consult with to discuss the plan for releasing data. But as you've heard, we have one now.
Sure. Thanks, and then the second question was about the development strategy for two a one in so.
We do have a Delaware was currency core tier one and yes. We do think there are tumor types for these medicines will be more effective, but we're not ready to disclose that at this moment in time.
Okay. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Phil Nadeau with Cowen. Your line is now open.
Definitely thanks for taking my questions first is on the Okay program I'm committed to the fact that the first cohort is enrolled but we're experiencing some delays for school, but I'm curious to get your most recent thoughts on when we could see data from that trial.
Charlie Albright: [inaudible] Sure, thanks Cindy. The second question was about the development strategy for 201. And so we do have a development strategy for 201. And yes, we do think there are tumor types for which these medicines will be more effective, but we're not ready to disclose that at this moment in time. Okay, thank you. Our next question comes from Phil Nadeau with Cowen. Your line is now open.
So as I mentioned that the data will.
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Unknown Attendee: Definitely. Thanks for taking my questions. The first is on the OCA program. Um, and one of those things, the fact that the first cohort is enrolled, but you're experiencing some delays versus COVID. I'm curious.
Unknown Attendee: Please get your most recent thoughts on when we could see data from that trial. So, as I mentioned, the data will be reviewed and... We will do that in consultation with the new CMO who is joining us, and it will depend largely on what the data set looks like, and we want to be responsible about what data we release and make sure that it is a fullsome set of data, and we're not eager at this point to release it on a patient-by-patient basis. I got it. Okay. Sorry I apologize. I think I missed what you just said. And then second is on interference.
Cindy Collins: It's the University of California. Can you tell us the significance of going in as a senior party? So the senior party generally has a stronger position.
Cindy Collins: As I mentioned, the junior party holds the burden of proof in the proceedings, and so they have to go first in terms of putting forth their depositions and their data, and we will, or the Broad on our behalf will go second. We believe that this puts us in the strongest position overall. I think the data suggests that, you know, the majority of the time, the senior party prevails.
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Charlie you want to take that one.
Sure. So you don't do a dose response in a in a amount of politics stem cell transplant experimental like we are doing for sickle cell disease and doses.
Unknown Attendee: We continue to remain extremely confident in our Patent Portfolio from the Broad. That's helpful. Thank you. Our next question comes from Matthew Harrison with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Hi, good evening. This is Thomas Lavery for Matthew.
The doses said because you want to ensure that you get good and craftsman.
And and so there is and there is no dose finding study we now with the dose should be and that's why it's so key that you added a really high fraction of the amount of poetic stem cells and so weve shown in preclinical studies and will show more at ash that we added more than 90% of the wheels and the we havent.
Unknown Attendee: Can you talk about your thoughts on initial dosing strategies in sickle cell? Given that you're editing a unique site, how low of a dose do you need to start versus being able to start at a more potentially efficacious dose? Thanks. Charlie, do you want to take that one?
Wrapping that that leads to pan cellular distribution and those are really the key properties.
Our next question comes from Steve Smith, Raymond James Your line is now open.
Charlie Albright: Sure. So you don't do a dose response in a hematopoietic stem cell transplant experiment like we do for sickle cell disease. The dose is set because you want to ensure that you get good and bad. And so there is no dose finding study. We know what the dose should be.
Yes, Hi, this is similar to oneq of on for Steve In House, Sir. Our first question is about the brilliance study. So you mentioned there was a slowdown and to what extent does that impact your dosing in the mid dose cohort because I think previously you were guiding to dose some patients in mid dose by year end, but we havent, we don't really see this guidance anymore.
Charlie Albright: And that's why it's so key that you edit a really high fraction of the hematopoietic stem cells. And so we've shown in preclinical studies, and we'll show more in ASH, that we edit more than 90% of the alleles and that we have engraftment that leads to pancellular distribution. And those are really the key properties.
That's correct, we've adjusted the guidance.
As I mentioned, we are seeing.
A bit of a challenge with the collagen situation. We have patients that are located outside of the U.S. that.
Cannot easily travel because of travel restrictions on cross borders.
There's also some reluctance on patients too.
Unknown Attendee: Our next question comes from Steve Seedhouse with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Yes, hi, this is Timur Ivannikov on behalf of Steve Seedhouse.
Unknown Attendee: So our first question is about the BRILLIANT study. So you mentioned there was a slowdown, and to what extent does that impact your dosing in the mid-dose cohort? Because I think previously you were guiding to dose some patients in mid-dose by year-end, but we don't really see this guidance anymore.
Cindy Collins: We've adjusted the guidance. As I mentioned, we are seeing a bit of a challenge with the COVID situation. We have patients that are located outside of the US that, [inaudible] We continue to work directly with the investigators to bring those patients forward. Okay, thank you.
Unknown Attendee: And I'm not sure if you can comment on any safety from the Blaine study. The first patient looks like he has about eight months of follow-up now. I'm not sure if you can say whether the safety is, you know, good enough to continue dose escalation, you know, assuming COVID delays are corrected. So I will say that we are clear on that third page. Okay, great. And one last question.
Unknown Attendee: And this question is regarding one of your ASH-20 abstracts for double knockout NK cells. Could you talk about the importance of IL-15 presence? You sort of mentioned the cells are grown in the presence of IL-15, but is that something that can also be used to co-administer during actual treatment? And what other – I know you're trying to co-administer with antibodies. You mentioned that.
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Unknown Attendee: Can you talk about the target that you're trying to test? Thank you. By targets, do you mean the knockout targets or the tumor? I'm sorry; I didn't understand that last part. Yeah, no problem.
Uhm I'm still not sure on the target of questions. So we have two knockouts, we we haven't disclosed the tumor types you were gonna test in humans, yet if that was the question.
Oh, Okay. Yeah. Thank you very much yep.
Unknown Attendee: It's basically the targets for the other therapy that you want to co-administer with NK-Cell. Well, yeah, so we decided it's preferable to increase the sensitivity of the NK cells to IL-15, and that's why we're knocking out the cis gene, because it's a negative regulator of the IL-15 pathway. And we're doing that. We're not going to co-administer it with IL-15.
Our next question comes from the line of journey with Truest. Your line is now open.
Hi, Thanks for taking my question so.
An edit one O one data disclosure I appreciate you trying to be responsible for the patients, but I'm sure. The investors are eager to learn about some of the efficacy and safety.
Is it fair to assume that you will say something about the efficacy and safety in 2021 or are you not willing to commit to that just yet and I have a follow up question.
Charlie Albright: And we've seen both in vitro and in vivo in mouse models that it's quite effective. But I'm still not sure on the target question. So we had two knockouts.
We are not ready to commit to that just yet and I want to do this in consultation with our our new CMO and develop the date of release plan with her.
Charlie Albright: We haven't disclosed the tumor types that we're going to test in humans yet, if that was the question. Okay, yeah, thank you very much. Our next question comes from the line of Joon Lee with Truist. Your line is now open.
Alright.
Just a couple of technical questions for Charlie.
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Four hemoglobin, one gamma one and two promoter where are you trying to target. So do you need to knock out both to have a clinical effective therapeutic effect. There obviously several combinations of outcome such as a deletion between the duplicated promoters and Virgil singled <unk> do a dual windows. So.
Joon So Lee: Hi, thanks for taking my question. So, on Edit 101 data disclosure, I appreciate that you're trying to be responsible for the patients, but I'm sure the investors are eager to learn about, you know, some of the efficacy and safety. Is it fair to assume that you will say something about the efficacy and safety in 2021? Or are you not willing to commit to that just yet?
Uhm is there one outcome desired for your therapeutic goal. Thank you no. That's a great. That's a great question and you're right. It's a complex locus and so we have done a detailed genotype phenotype analysis and will we look forward to disclosing that have an upcoming sign.
Cindy Collins: And I have a follow-up question. We are not ready to commit to that just yet. I want to do this in consultation with our new CMO and develop a data release plan with her.
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More than 90% of the edited sells express what we believe are therapeutically relevant concentrations of fetal hemoglobin. So even though the the locus is complex were able to achieve our therapeutic kohl's.
Unknown Attendee: Just a couple of technical questions for Charlie, you know, for 301, there is a duplication I believe where, you know, for hemoglobin 1, gamma 1 and 2 promoters where you're trying to target. So do you need to knock out both to have a clinical effect, a therapeutic effect? There are obviously several combinations of outcomes, such as a deletion between the duplicated promoters and inversion, single indel, or dual indels.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from <unk> with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is now open.
Hi, Thanks for taking my questions.
So first maybe a few questions on added to one so do you cause this is to be used together with an antibody therapeutics.
Do you expect to repeat the dozing four at at two O one and.
Charlie Albright: Is there one outcome that is desired for your therapeutic goal? No, that's a great question. And you're right, it's a complex issue.
And also I'm wondering what about a strategy to prevent rejection by host T cells.
Charlie Albright: And so we have done a detailed genotype phenotype analysis, and we look forward to disclosing that at an upcoming scientific meeting, because it is fascinating. Suffice it to say that more than 90% of the edited cells express what we believe are therapeutically relevant concentrations of fetal hemoglobin. So even though the locus is complex, we're able to achieve our therapeutic goals. Thank you. Our next question comes from Yanan Zhu with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is now open.
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Yanan Zhu: Hi, and thanks for taking my question. So first, maybe a few questions on Addit 201. So this is to be used together with an antibody therapeutic. Do you expect repeat dosing for ADDIT-201? Also, I'm wondering, what about Strategy to Prevent Rejection by Host T-Cell? Would it be just lymphedema? And also, on behalf of the police... Are there any concerns? which could have been a contributor to ADCC. And now you know if they are.
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And we think that the NK cells that we're adding or.
We're gonna select ones that are very efficient at engaging.
Therapeutic antibodies and based.
Based on our preclinical studies, we think that will later about the clinical outcomes or we're not worried about some of the things you mentioned.
And whether it's Ah repeat and dozing strategy.
Yeah, we want to leave open the the ability to do repeat those things so that.
Take that into the into the way we are thinking both about the preclinical studies, we do it on the clinical studies with Ya.
Charlie Albright: Right, great, great questions, Charlie. So yeah, we do anticipate doing lympho depletion to prevent the rejection of the NK cells that we're using in this first iteration of our NK cell platform. And we think that the NK cells that we're adding are, we're going to select ones that are very efficient at engaging the therapeutic antibodies. And based on our preclinical studies, we think that will lead to a robust clinical outcome. So we're not worried about some of the things you mentioned and whether it's a repeat dose. Yeah, we want to leave open the ability to do repeat those things so that we've baked that into the way we think both about the preclinical studies we do and the clinical studies we do. Got it. So maybe one question, one more question for Edit 301. The CL-11A targeted approach has demonstrated roughly 45 to 50% hemoglobin in a couple of patients in phase one trials to date. Do you think that can be surpassed?
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Roughly 45% to 50% hemoglobin fetal hemoglobin and a couple of patience in phase. One trial date do you think that can be surpassed that benchmark can be surpassed.
Based on your preclinical work and also with the higher Hbf.
Charlie Albright: Based on your preclinical work and also with the higher HBS, and that they contribute significantly to the premature mortality that characterizes this disease, and so we look forward to providing clinical benefit above and beyond what's possible. Thank you. That concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Cindy Collins for her closing remarks. Okay. So, with that, we thank you all for participating in today's call and for your support as we work to bring transformative new medicines to patients. Take care, and be safe. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. Thank you once again for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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