Q4 2020 Upwork Inc Earnings Call
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Thank you welcome to <unk> discussion of its fourth quarter and full year 2020 financial results, leading the discussion today are Hayden Brown, <unk>, President and Chief Executive Officer.
And Jeff Mccomb upward Chief Financial Officer, following management's prepared remarks, we will be happy to take your questions, but first I'll review the safe Harbor statement.
During this call we may make statements related to our business that are forward looking statements under federal Securities laws. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, but rather are subject to a variety of risks uncertainties and assumptions our actual results could differ materially from expectations reflected in any forward looking statements. In addition, any.
Regarding the current and future impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic on our business and current and future impacts of actions. We have taken in response to the COVID-19 pandemic are forward looking statements and related to matters that are beyond our control and changing rapidly.
For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results. Please refer to our SEC filings available on the SEC website and on our Investor Relations website as well as the risks and other important factors discussed in today's press release.
Additional information will also be set forth in our annual report on form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2020. When filed in addition reference will be made to non-GAAP financial measures information regarding reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures can be found in the press release that was issued this afternoon.
On our Investor Relations website at investors got up work Dot com.
As always reported figures are rounded unless otherwise noted comparisons of the fourth quarter of 2020 are to the fourth quarter of 2019 and comparisons for the full year 2020 are to the full year 2019, all measures are GAAP unless cited as non-GAAP.
On the prepared remarks corresponding to the information reviewed on today's conference call will also be available on our Investor Relations website. Shortly after the call has concluded now I'll turn the call over to Hayden.
Thanks, Denise and thank you all for joining today.
I am pleased to report that fourth quarter revenue grew 32% year over year to reach $106 million and fourth quarter gross services volume grew 33% year over year to reach $728 million.
This was our best year over year growth performance since going public and was driven by our aggressive execution during the pandemic to enable our customers with a better way to work I applaud our team for greatly expanding our operating capabilities to serve our customers today, while simultaneously building towards the future we envision a REIT.
Ordering of the world of work with independent talent at the heart of every business.
<unk> has for some math experiment of remote work across the business landscape proving what we always knew.
Old models of work or in need of and capable of change people can be just as if not more productive when not in an office nearly a year into the pandemic. We see there are more work is actually getting easier as shown in our recently published economists report future workforce.
But to focus solely on remote work would be to overlook something much more important.
While most of the 2020 as the year when people figured out how to work remotely we see a much bigger trend emerging.
There is a new openness across the spectrum of our clients to rethink not just where work happens, but to rethink who does the work and how it gets done.
They realize that much of their critical work needs a more flexible dynamic skilled and efficient solution it needs to be done by independent talent.
And this is where the real power of our parks work marketplace is unleashed.
Companies that truly want to work with the best people for the job at hand are realizing that many of the best professionals today are now freelancers.
This is an undeniable new reality in an age where in the U S alone more than 50% of Gen Z College, Grads and 59 million Americans are now freelancers.
So many more companies or a weakening to this truth.
Small businesses to large enterprises are bringing independent talent on to do more work ever closer to the core of their companies.
We see that the work landscape has shifted and we believe this has increased our total addressable market opportunity to more than one trillion.
With this incredible potential still ahead of us it's evident that the step change comfort. The companys gained with remote work last year was only the first step on the path towards this exciting horizon.
How do we step into this new era of work, we see the work world rapidly evolving.
<unk> barriers between full time employees and independent talent are dissolving quickly as their contributions are being equally valued and increasingly sought after at every level of the organization. We see everyone benefiting in this new way of working for.
Full time employees gain access to much needed are partners, who can traverse the increasingly fluid walls of their companies.
Freelancers are able to contribute critical skills and expertise while continuing to work on their own terms.
And companies benefit from harnessing the power of our global creative and diverse talent pool that gives them exactly the people they need for the work at hand on.
Offering for competitive advantages of agility and speed in an ever changing environment.
We know what it takes to unlock the market opportunity ahead of us.
It takes more than being a gig company talent network or a vertically integrated single category provider.
To unlock the tremendous potential ahead requires being the work marketplace for the world.
For clients. This means serving them with the multiple ways that they want to find and build their virtual talent bench.
Whether that is posting jobs and our talent marketplace.
One click models like project catalog complex project and team collaboration offerings like our agency solution recruiting services, such as talent Scout, where our specialized for tutors pinpoint pre vetted talent that aligns with our clients' goals.
Or our range, our full range of enterprise solutions.
For independent talent being the work marketplace means serving them with high quality clients and varied earning opportunities that they seek the control to dial up or down the pipeline of work they want as they build their freelance careers.
Our suite of offerings to support their businesses and the tools to nurture trusted client relationships for the long term.
We know from experience that the ability to build trusted long term relationships on our platform makes the work being done on our work marketplace further differentiated from what happens in other parts of the freelance economy.
It is the unique characteristics of freelancing on up work that enables companies to change their entire operating model to rely on the independent talent on our platform.
And to completely reconsider not just with whom they work, but also how they get corn work done gaining incredible agility productivity and efficiency in the process when businesses and talent fully embrace the power that they gain from this re imagining of what's possible.
See that they have tapped into the full potential of our work marketplace.
Our singular focus this year is bringing this transformational awareness to the market in a bigger way, while continuing to enhance and innovate our platform as we bolster our position as not just the market leader, but the only company offering these unique capabilities.
This is our 2021 strategy, we are innovating scaling and evangelizing the work marketplace for the world.
With that perspective, let's step back and take a look at our fourth quarter performance for.
Focusing on the key drivers of our growth, namely new client acquisition client retention product and sales.
I'll start with new client acquisition.
We started the year with an aggressive plan for growth and SCO SCM mobile on international and we executed strongly against that plan, adding a record number of new clients at attractive acquisition costs.
We acquired new clients at a faster clip and with greater efficiencies during the fourth quarter than in any of the previous quarters since becoming a public company the.
The efficiencies and success of the programs, we have been building with discipline throughout the year were evident for example, new clients from S. M grew 86% year over year in Q4, and 50% for the year as a whole.
Our laser focus in 2020 on tuning our marketing programs around lifetime value was also apparent as the new clients that we acquired in Q4 spent over 10% more per client than new clients in the same quarter of the previous year.
We saw our best quarter of growth in both international and mobile client acquisition with further runway ahead in.
In 2021, we will increase our SCM spend given these strong signals in order to drive additional new customers to upward and help them see the value of our expanding work marketplace.
Moving to client spend retention, we were pleased with an acceleration to 102% in the fourth quarter as our core clients increased by more than 6400.
64% more than the increase in Q4 2019.
GSV from clients acquired before Q4 was up 30% and GSV from clients acquired before 2020 was up 27% as existing and new clients deepen their usage of upward to build operate and grow their companies.
I'd like to now talk about some of our fourth quarter product developments, which are being led by our new chief product and experience officer, Sam break who joined us from ebay in November.
Last quarter, we announced project catalog a brand new way to use our park, we launched project catalog a full months earlier than planned across 300 marketplace categories. The customer response has been positive.
Project catalog allows clients to immediately understand the massive breadth of talent on up work through predefined ready to purchase projects not only doesn't create a powerful new client pathway into up work. It allows existing clients to augment larger and more complex role based work with smaller.
Well defined projects and serves as a strong discovery engine for the rest of the platform.
We see project catalog as an ideal complement to our other offerings together broadening the spectrum of pathways to get work done in our work marketplace.
In the quarter, we expanded our direct contracts offering for freelancers to enable them to invoice and build their clients for hourly work. In addition to using our escrow protections for fixed price jobs. While this offering is still nascent we see freelancers continue to grow the portfolio of clients and work there.
Billing through our platform as they consolidate more of their freelance work on upward.
Throughout the course of 2020, we saw increased demand from clients wanting to onboard their various team members and agencies on to upward for easy and unified billing program management and collaboration and competitive bidding in our marketplace.
Our larger clients are enthusiastic about our bring your own talent or B Y O T solution not just because we automatically handle all of the money movement local currency payments on a global scale and associated paperwork, but also because for our enterprise compliance clients, we solve the worker classification.
Other headaches normally associated with these tasks, which are increasingly daunting for many companies in a fragmented and distributed work landscape.
To enhance this experience we launched an integrated on boarding process in Q4 that reduced our industry, leading start time on payroll contrasts from nine to two and a half days.
This past quarter, we landed a global tech firm that on boarded over 1000 freelancers running over $1 million through this view Iot product all within Q4.
We are bullish on the prospects that are highly attractive offering has for the expanding set of clients seeking solutions for their challenges paying and project managing distributed teams.
Building the world for work marketplace means both developing and integrating best of breed tools that customers love to use for their work.
During the fourth quarter, we announced a partnership with zoom that integrates zoomed video and voice communication tools into up work. This provides our customers a frictionless and secure communications experience for interviewing candidates setting opportunities and collaborating on projects the customer feedback has been phenomenal resulting in.
On a significant increase in calls and collaboration activity on our platform and is an example of the types of further integrations, we have in the pipeline.
Our sales team has fully implemented the changes we announced last quarter.
And has been making progress against our sharper go to market strategy.
Our team is engaged in strategic conversations at the highest levels to help clients implement and manage their remote and independent talent programs and is pleased by the reception in the market.
One example was the recent work we did for a leading global technology conglomerate the client needed a solution that would enable them to continue working with their existing independent talent, while aggressively scaling their team.
We seamlessly on boarded more than 30 freelancers in five countries in the first day and now serve as the operational backbone of their globally distributed team spanning 30 subcategories of work.
Since inception, the account has seen for 400 per cent growth in new projects.
2020 was a watershed year for our pork we understood early on that although the tide of remote work was pricing. It was imperative to create long term strategies that would retain customers on our platform and grow their value over time, well after COVID-19 past.
Laying the foundation for outbreaks durable long term growth.
As we look to 2021, our focus is clear we have a single strategic priority innovating scaling and evangelizing the work on marketplace for the world.
We are humbled and excited to be in a position to transform work. So positively for so many people pursuing with purpose our mission to create economic opportunities. So people have better lives.
I will now turn the call over to Jeff to discuss our financial results in more detail.
Thanks for taking our fourth quarter and full year financial results for strong and I'm looking forward for the year ahead.
I joined up work can be part of a key passionate about our mission and I'm proud to see that we are executing strongly against our strategy increasing efficiencies in our business and delivering products ahead of schedule.
Now I will discuss the financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2020, and provide our revenue and EBITDA guidance for the first quarter and full year 2021, which we included in our earnings release filed earlier today.
GSP in the fourth quarter, and full year with $748 million and $2 5 billion, respectively and represents strong year over year growth of 33% and 21%.
Revenue grew 32% for year over year to $106 million in the fourth quarter and grew 24% to $374 million in the full year 2020.
Marketplace revenue for the fourth quarter was $97 million.
Reflecting a year over year increase of 34% for.
For the full year 2020 marketplace revenue was $338 million, an increase of 26% from 2019.
Managed services revenue grew 15% for $9 3 million in the fourth quarter and was 35 million for the full year.
I want to touch briefly on our strong beat versus Q4 revenue guidance.
Our business typically experiences a seasonal slowdown started in November and peaking in the last two weeks of the year.
This year, the seasonal slowdown was virtually nonexistent, which we had not assumed in guidance. In addition to particularly strong acquisition and quarter over quarter retention. This atypical seasonality was a key driver behind the revenue beat in the fourth quarter. We hypothesized that this was due to COVID-19 and COVID-19 related restrictions.
<unk> holiday travel and social gatherings and increasingly amount of work that was being done during this period relative to prior years, we wouldnt anticipate this atypical seasonality to repeat in 2021.
Total core clients grew by approximately 17% year over year for 6460 in the fourth quarter for 145400 <unk>.
With gross new core clients in the quarter growing 36% year over year and net additions are core clients of 64% for year over year client.
Client spend retention accelerate for 100% in Q3 to 102% in Q4 as the spending on strength of clients acquired in 2019 and earlier performed well.
Our overall take rate in the fourth quarter was 14, 6% in line with Q4 19 per down slightly from the 14, 8% we saw on Q3.
This decrease was driven primarily by a higher percentage of revenue being earned in a lower pricing tiers due to clients spending more with their free ventures as well as changes we made in connects to improve liquidity by better balancing the number of job posts and proposals.
Non-GAAP gross profit was 78 million for the fourth quarter for 73% of revenue and $270 million for the full year for 72 percentage of revenue.
With respect for the fourth quarter non-GAAP operating expenses for $70 million, representing 66% of revenue.
Down from 69% in 2019, with G&A decreasing from 19% to 15% and transaction losses remaining flat to 1%, while sales and marketing increased from 31% to 32% and R&D increased from 18% to 19% with.
With respect for the full year non-GAAP operating expenses were $264 million, representing 71% of revenue up from 70% in 2019 with sales and marketing increasing from 31% for 34% and R&D, increasing from 19% to 20% while G&A decreased from 80.
10% to 15%.
Non-GAAP net income was seven $8 million on the fourth quarter of 2020 compared to $3 4 million in the fourth quarter of 2019 for.
For the full year non-GAAP net income was $6 1 million compared to $5 5 million for 2019.
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Adjusted EBITDA was $9 6 million in the fourth quarter of 2020 compared to $3 5 million in the fourth quarter of 2019 and materially above our guidance, primarily as a result of the flow through of the revenue beat.
For the full year 2020, adjusted EBITDA was $14 million compared to $7 4 million for 2019.
Now, let's move on to guidance.
First quarter revenue between $107 million and $109 million in full year revenue between $460 million and $470 million, representing 24% year over year growth at the midpoint we.
We expect GSV growth to be slightly stronger as marketplace revenue will likely grow faster than managed services revenue and due to changes. We have made towards next program. They are driving better liquidity in the marketplace and higher GSP, while lowering connect specific revenue.
We remain bullish on the investment opportunities in front of Us and we'll continue funding growth initiatives, while closely monitoring our performance to achieve our return thresholds.
As such we expect first quarter EBITDA to be between $2 million and $3 million and full year EBITDA to be between $12 million and $16 million.
We will continue to manage costs with discipline, while preserving our cash and maintaining our strong balance sheet.
Which included cash and marketable securities of approximately $170 million at the end of the fourth quarter.
While the unique macro environment continues to make forecasting this year more challenging than usual, we expect the strength, we've seen in our business to persist and our current outlook calls for a relatively consistent quarter over quarter growth throughout the year.
We remain committed to our long term revenue growth rate of 20 plus percent.
We ended the year with solid execution across all areas of the business and we enter 2021, well positioned to drive growth as we continue to execute our plans and capture an even larger share of our market opportunity on a final note. We are hosting a virtual investor day June 15, and we'd like to personally invite all of you to join us.
We'll provide registration information on our IR website soon.
Thank you we will now take your questions.
As a reminder to ask a question you will need to press star one on your telephone to withdraw your question press the pound key please standby, while we compile the Q&A roster.
Our first question comes from the line of Nick Jones from Citi. Your line is now open.
Great. Thanks for.
Taking the question two for me I guess first can you expand a little bit.
On on.
Project catalog and what the early traction is in beta.
On what Youre seeing once its launched.
And then I guess a follow up on that is how should we think about.
<unk> take rate as the project catalog gauge traction I think.
<unk> points that could potentially increase take rate over time as more transactions flow through there. Thanks.
Thanks, Nick Yeah, we've been really gratified by other respond to them or get to catalog. So far it's really a great way for new clients to discover what's possible on up work and really dip their toe into.
Freelance talent overall and it has a fantastic discovery engine aspect to it and then they can use catalog as a way to then graduate to some of our larger more complex project based work with freelancers on the platform. It's also shown to be a nicely for clients who are already using I've worked for a larger complex projects really round out.
And add on additional small projects to complement the work they are already doing in the marketplace. So it's still really early in the offering we launched it a month early in January but the signs are very positive and we see it as a compliment as we build out the single work marketplace that really provides our clients on our talent all of the ways that they want to work together and.
Inside the ecosystem and Jeff and I have on it.
Dressed up for points on take rate.
Sure Nick.
So on take rates.
As you know our pricing for project catalog is the same model that we have for the talent marketplace.
However, given that the average size of the projects on project catalog, we would expect to be smaller more of them will end up in the higher price tiers. So on average we would think that we will have a higher take rate there and as project catalog represents a larger and larger percentage of the overall market.
It will drive upward pressure on take rate as it goes out.
Great. Thank you for taking my questions.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ron Josey from JMP Securities. Your line is now open.
Great. Thanks for taking my question and happy New year I wanted to ask a little bit more about the cohorts spend I think you mentioned pretty strong growth across GSV for both 2020 cohorts and cohorts prior to 2020 and client retention rates reached 102. So can you talk just about the drivers here of cohorts spend and obviously the main question is sustainability.
One of the my second question here Hayden and Jeff I think one of the core imperatives last year Hayden was to generate more high quality matches.
And I wanted to hear the progress there and maybe Jeff as it relates to your comment on the changes on the connect program. If you can just elaborate a little bit more of that would be great. Thank you.
Thanks, Ron what we've seen has been really strong broad based acceleration in spend across pretty much every client cohort both from new clients and retain clients. So GSV from clients acquired before Q4 was up 30% TSB from clients acquired before 2020 was up 27% and that.
It was part of what drove our CSR to 102% this past quarter with that 5400 increase which as you know the largest acceleration we've seen for being a public company. So our view is that this is an increase that is certainly not just related to pandemic related work on what we're hearing from clients is they're really shifting workload.
Two freelancers that are part of their core operations are deepening their relationships further with the furniture is on the platform and our view is that this is really sticky as we hear from customers. They don't want to go back to the way that they were working pre pandemic. They see upward as a continued part of their ongoing operations and so our expectation is that.
This higher spend retention in many cases really will stay and stick well after the pandemic recede because the client behaviors themselves are changing and the value. They are seeing in these relationships is really long term. So this is a highly sustainable model for them.
In terms of your question around about high quality matches and that focus last year I'd say, we've been making really good progress there.
Some of the dynamics, we've mentioned around connect revenue and some other changes to that program has been part of powering more and more matching on the platform, especially as you've seen the influx influenced talent over the last year continue to be so strong and we're very focused on making sure that every job. That's posted every client is finding it.
Zachary about rig count and match for them and so that can flex program is just one piece of the puzzle along with a lot of the data science changes and technical changes on the platform that we've been making to continue to improve fill rates accelerate the time that clients and freelancers.
Finding to actually get matched up on a platform et cetera, and so we feel like the progress there hasnt really positive and actually that's on one of the pieces of the puzzle in terms of making sure that matches are happening quickly spend is happening and that is showing up in both the acquisition spend numbers and the retention spend numbers.
That's great. Thank you very much great quarter.
Thanks.
Thank you. Our next question comes on the line of Marvin Fong from <unk>. Your line is now open.
Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the on the great quarter.
Just a question a couple of questions. So last quarter, you talked about the tar.
Targeting 20% growth in 2021, and now you've actually given us guidance. It looks like it's a little bit above that maybe 2023% to 26% growth just curious.
If you could talk about the kpis that you're tracking are you seeing actually stronger growth than that than where we stood three months ago, just talk about your optimism there and then.
My second question is just on enterprise, if you could just kind of.
Elaborate more on on on how the sales force performed there and what might be embedded in your guidance for for 2021. Thanks.
Sure. Thanks, Bob I appreciate it.
With respect to our guidance.
As we looked at Q4.
We saw really strong performance really across all dimensions of the business, including acquisition and spend per client both setting record levels for us.
And as we think through the year ahead, we're assuming that we're able to our guidance reflects we are able to continue to.
Build on those elevated levels and acquire new clients.
And you're right, but that does reflect 23% to 26% growth for the year ahead of what we had guided last quarter to 20%.
And we really high inflection point change in.
In the performance of our cohorts in Q3 and Q4, it does make it really tricky to forecast that going forward because the the predictability of customer behavior in the past is it.
A little bit less given that it improved so much but we're assuming that we can hold on to that that higher level of performance given that we really do think that the changes that are happening are permanent and structural in nature and all of that is reflected in our in the guidance going forward and so those numbers.
Performance, we saw bolt on acquisition retention in form.
Our retention curves of acquisition forecast that are included in guidance.
And then with respect to sales.
We will.
We currently sales represent 10% to 20% of our overall economics of the business depending on what metric you look at.
On the team is has done great work digesting the changes that we announced in Q4.
Continuing to execute execute against the strategy.
And we will evaluate in the future when we want to increase our investment there as we get more and more data in terms of the overall performance.
Terrific. Thanks, so much Jeff I appreciate it.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brent Thill from Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Alright. Thank you. This is John Andy on for Brent Thill two questions on project catalog and I realize it's early but.
Could talk about maybe how much are you assuming in distribution for two.
2021 guidance.
And then if you could give some color on year to day trends, obviously were almost at the end of February.
I mean, it sounds like all the other strength from Q4 as a sustained but based on.
For the color you could add would be great. Thank you.
Sure So with respect to project catalog.
As we mentioned in the script is included in our overall guidance.
It is early.
So we don't have.
A ton of great data to forecast a rapidly growing project like project catalog.
But we've taken on best guesstimate as reflected in our overall guidance in terms of.
January performance.
And how we're trending for the year, obviously, we've taken that into consideration in terms of the guidance that.
That we provided.
<unk> seen good good strength continue across the business and that's reflected in our guidance.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Logan Thomas from Stifel. Your line is now open.
Hi, Dan and Jeff I was wondering if you could talk about.
The enterprise segment drill down on that a little bit more.
Given the changes that youre seeing count procurement and organizational behavior.
And the benefit that that's having on the platform I guess, specifically as it relates to enterprise. If you could just talk about sales productivity and anyhow.
Conversations you are having or what youre seeing in the sales cycle, which can tend to be longer.
How youre thinking about that.
Year to date and then the second piece would just be if you could just address.
Your views on competitive intensity.
In your key markets.
How youre thinking about.
On competitive interest in the opportunity in your position against that thanks.
Sure I'd say, you know what our client mindsets as we talk to folks in the market are really evolving rapidly in our favor we talked to enterprise customers. All the time, who are increasingly creating their virtual talent benches on up work on.
Moving more organizational capabilities to use independent.
Independent talent in more in new ways, and that's really where the conversations with clients are shifting from last year. I think they were really focused on how do we work remotely and now we're starting to have more conversations around we worked remotely now by default how do we use that as a real tool to tap into the independent talent workforce, which is out there all around that.
<unk> ready to work for us and that's where we're hearing conversations with clients right now shifting from the where to the who and how element of it.
How upper can be part of their talent strategy going forward and understanding that that has to be how they stay competitive in the market well. After this pandemic recede in terms of the competitive intensity. We know this is a big attractive market and so competition never surprises US. We also know from experience that competitors can really struggled to build big for.
That whole businesses. So we stay very focused on our strategy investing in and maintaining the advantages that we have I think some of the big ones that we focus on our scale. We know we already have more than three and a half times the gross services volume and more than approximately two two times the revenue of the next largest player in our space.
And that means we have the deepest highest quality talent network, which is a huge differentiator for clients of all sizes as they are contemplating how to engage with independent talent at scale. They want high quality talent that is highly reliable and we offer that in a way that no. One else does I think the second thing we really focus on is the trust and safety element of our platform.
We know companies are very concerned about how do they find people. They can trust that are highly reliable on how our clients and talent want to know that their money is safe that they can use this model at scale and that is something that we've had to build up well for many years and it's very hard to for another competitor to replicate I think the last thing around our strategic focus is really the focus on build.
The work marketplace, where we know that to win in this space requires not just having one offering or one capability, but really serving clients and talent with a spectrum of ways that they cannot just do small project work or larger project work, but actually do both and that is where we are uniquely differentiated and how we can serve our custom.
<unk> with a small through to the very large project needs that they have and I think those things are the things, where we are executing very rapidly continuing to innovate and really be the pioneer and as I look forward I really couldn't be more excited about what's ahead for <unk> and for our customers.
That's great. Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating you may now disconnect.
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