Q4 2020 Summit Materials Inc Earnings Call

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the summit materials fourth quarter 2020 earnings Conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation. There will be a question and answer session to ask a question during the session you'll need of press star one on your telephone.

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Now I'd like to hand, the conference over to your Speaker today Karli Anderson. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Welcome to summit materials fourth quarter and full year 2020 results conference call. We issued a press release yesterday afternoon detailing our financial and operating results. This call is accompanied by our investor presentation, an updated supplemental workbook, highlighting key financial and operating data all of which are posted.

On the investors section of our website.

Management's commentary and responses to questions on today's call May include forward looking statements, which by their nature are uncertain and outside of summit materials control. Although these forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs actual results may differ in the material way for a discussion of some of the factors that could cause.

Actual results to differ please see the risk factors section of summit materials latest annual report on form 10-K as supplemented in our quarterly report on form 10-Q for the first quarter of 2020, each of which is filed with the SEC you can find reconciliations of the historical non-GAAP financial measures discussed on today's call in our <unk>.

Release todays call will begin with the business update from our CEO Anne Noonan, then our CFO, Brian Harris will provide the financial review and Ann will provide concluding remarks. We will then open the line for questions. Please limit your house to one question and then return to the queue. So we can accommodate as many analysts as possible in the time, we have available.

With that I'll turn the call over to Ann.

Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining our fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings call before we begin talking about our operating and financial results consistent with our normal practices at summit I would like to start by providing an update on safety safety is the single most important core value driving the daily.

<unk> of all summit employees enhanced safety and distancing protocols are still in place throughout the organization in response to COVID-19, ours is an essential business and we take that responsibility seriously. We continue to work towards a zero incident safety culture, our over 6000 dedicated employees.

These deserve recognition for their success in 2020, as we improved performance in lost time, and recordable incident rates relative to 2019.

We'll begin on slide three of the presentation with an overview of our fourth quarter performance.

Summit delivered a strong finish to the year as in migration trends continue to favor rural and ex urban residential construction and many of our key states public spending activity was resilient, resulting in more working days we.

We delivered record Q4 results for net revenue operating income and adjusted EBITDA volume.

The growth was robust throughout the quarter with aggregates volumes up 24, 7% cement volumes of four 5% ready mix volumes up six 4% on asphalt up 23%.

Our West segment was the largest contributor to Q4 results delivering record adjusted EBITDA as residential activity drove higher aggregates and ready mixed demand in Utah and Texas.

Segment results also included a full quarter of contribution from the strategic acquisitions of multi sources in Houston and valley in British Columbia that occurred mid year.

In our East segment performance included double digit organic growth in Kansas aggregates, driven by robust public spending and the completion of several wind farm projects in Kentucky, We made the decision to focus on cash optimization and the volume challenged market Lettings have resumed after several months of deferrals.

Albeit at a lesser pace the normal run rate.

Our cement segment reported higher adjusted EBITDA relative to Q4 2019, driven by demand recovery in markets that had struggled to earlier in the year and the impact of price increases that went into effect on June one 2020, higher volume and price combined with our focus continuous improvement efforts and operations of.

Supply chain yielded of 210 basis point gross margin expansion for cement in the fourth quarter.

Our Green America recycling facility operated on a limited basis in Q4, as we await final permission to resume full operations. This downtime impacted our cement segments adjusted EBITDA by $4 2 million in the fourth quarter. We look forward to Great America resuming normal operations sometime in early 'twenty 'twenty, one as the rig.

Significant pent up customer demand for its services. We also plan to undertake a modest expansion of the Green American facility in 'twenty 'twenty, one to position that business for future growth.

Turning to slide four we summarize full year of 2020 results. What we set records for net revenue net income and adjusted EBITDA. We reported record net revenue in 2020 up 5%, primarily resulting from three 6% organic volume growth in aggregates at 5%.

In ready mix as well as pricing growth in our ready mix asphalt and cement lines of business.

Aggregates pricing declined slightly relative to the prior year due to three primary factors first we made a strategic acquisition of multi sources to bolster our market position in the fast growing Houston market.

Since making that acquisition in July the Houston team successfully implemented two price increases and we have now fully integrated the business at prevailing market prices.

Flood repair work was completed in 2019, and our Missouri operations and did not repeat in 2020.

Third we had a change of product mix as we sold through some lower priced inventory, which impacted our average selling price for example, in Kentucky, where the state temporarily deferred all public spending activity, we made the strategic decision to engage and operational improvements to optimize cash generation and of volume.

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On a mix adjusted basis aggregates pricing increased one 7% in 2020 over 2019.

And the market fundamentals were good at yearend, establishing a solid foundation for successful price execution in 2021.

Full year reported net income attributable to summit, Inc was up 134% on higher revenue, resulting in higher operating income and the reversal of an unrecognized tax benefit.

Our adjusted cash gross profit margin expanded by 80 basis points on higher operating income a record adjusted EBITDA of $485 million was up 5% on higher revenue and aggregates ready mix and asphalt we continued to prioritize cash flow on working capital management results.

And the year end leverage ratio of three two times, which is the lowest in the company's history and one full turn improvement over five quarters ago. If we achieve the growth estimated on our outlook, we see a path to realizing a leverage ratio of below three times by year end 2021, we plan to discuss.

Of our capital allocation strategy and the more holistic fashion during our upcoming virtual investor event on March 16th.

We're looking at the early results from the month of January on the possible read through for 2021 residential demand in our markets is still robust, particularly in Texas, Utah and the Central U S. Obviously last week, we were not operating at normal activity levels in many of our markets due to exceptionally cold weather conditions.

But that does not change our view that the overall demand picture is healthy.

We've seen some lettings come through for wind farms and distribution centers and early 'twenty 'twenty, one, but it's still too early to tell whether it be on pace with 2020, when wind farms in our Kansas market contributed approximately 5 million of adjusted EBITDA, most airports and retail projects are in a holding pattern as they were in 2020.

With little visibility when these projects will resume.

Activity remains resilient in Texas, Utah, Kansas, and Virginia, Missouri, and Kentucky have begun leading projects and are catching up on 2020 deferrals, but it is early days and too soon to quantify the impact of British Columbia remains challenged and of slow to emerge from COVID-19 related economic contraction.

Drilling down a bit further on slide five we've provided an update of the current end market conditions and our top five states by 2020 revenue. So much end use markets of roughly 38% public 31% residential and 31% nonresidential.

Overall, we would characterize conditions is favorable in our largest markets for residential construction as U S. Average housing permits are up 12% year over year and conditions support organic growth in Texas Tech stock is projecting nine 6 billion in lettings in the current fiscal year, a substantial increase from last year.

In addition, Texas is expected to receive over $900 million from the recent stimulus Houston continues to be one of the countries most of burst and highest growth residential markets and single family home permits were up 18% in November year over year, the strategic acquisition of multi sources further strength.

That's our position in this high growth market nonresidential construction activity has been resilient and many of the suburban ex urban markets, except for the Permian basin, and Panhandle areas, which have been slower to recover from the effects of lower oil prices.

Single family permits in Salt Lake City, or up 8% of November year over year, and the inventories of new homes remain at historical lows you Dot is forecasting a modest revenue increase for the current fiscal year. In addition to 87 million in expected stimulus, Utah is one of some of its highest growth markets and as of.

The Great example of where our vertically integrated model is fully leveraged to deliver profitable organic growth and high returns on invested capital.

In Kansas K Dot is planning for $1 9 billion of spending in this current fiscal year budget growing to $2 2 billion for fiscal 2022 single family permits are up 16% across the entire state in November year over year, Kansas is an excellent market for summit, where we are well positioned to continue to leverage <unk>.

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One of the Missouri Department of Transportation initially estimated of decline in tax revenue of up to 30%. They have recently announced plans to deploy approximately $360 million worth of projects that had previously been deferred Missouri is also expected to receive approximately $236 million of stimulus for.

Finally in Virginia. The current budget reflects an increase of 16% over the prior year single family permits are up 12%, while the state is expected to receive $254 million of stimulus.

On slide six we provided an outlook by end market. The residential end market continues to experience accelerated demand mortgage rates are at all time lows, while homebuilder sentiment is at all time highs consumers of opting for suburban ex urban homes and affordable locations such as those served by summit.

On inventories are at an all time low in our top markets.

The nonresidential market has less near term visibility wind farm of distribution center projects for 2021 are in the planning stages, but we know the business and consumer trends favor more wind and solar energy that will drive future demand for our portfolio of materials and services for example of wind farm base requires 50000 yeah.

Words of ready mix I'd.

And given the strength in residential we believe the corresponding period of growth in light nonresidential construction will emerge in the next year or two.

With regard to public infrastructure, we are cautiously optimistic about the future of bipartisan meeting with the New administration occurred earlier. This month, we understand that the new administration is currently expected to unveil some version of an infrastructure plan. The spring the chairman of the environmental and public works Committee has stated they would.

Try to get a fast act two point on legislative efforts beginning in May as the current fast Act is only funded through September 30 of this year otherwise it will likely be funded with continuing resolutions until the broader infrastructure plan can be adopted <unk>.

Concluding with the Greenfield update on slide seven our aggregates Greenfield are in key strategic growth areas, such as Atlanta, Salt Lake City, and Kansas City Greenfield investment in our targeted growth markets is key to delivering sustainable organic growth five aggregates Greenfield investments have been completed to date with another for.

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'twenty, one as part of our cumulative capital spending of approximately 200 million on Greenfields with that I'll turn the call over to Brian for a discussion of financial results.

Thank you Anne on.

On slide nine we have provided on net revenue bridge, comparing Q4 2020 to queue for 2019.

Net revenue increased 13% to $571 9 million, which is a record for a fourth quarter.

Our West segment led the way contributing an incremental $48 7 million organic net revenue on higher aggregates and ready mix volumes, particularly in Utah on from Texas.

We also benefited from an incremental of $14 5 million in revenue.

The associated with acquisitions of operations in Texas on British Columbia.

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Our East segment net revenue was relatively flat for the reasons stated in her earlier remarks.

On cement segment net revenue was up $2 3 million in Q4 2020 relative to the prior year quarter of demand began to recover in some of its markets.

On slide 10, we've provided on net revenue bridge comparing full year 2020 to 2019.

Net revenue increased five 1% two of new all time high of $2 1 billion.

Net revenue benefited from increases in volumes as well as acquisition related growth.

Drivers of for full year and the acquisitions growth was the same as the pool of quarter.

Our cement segment net revenue declined $20 1 million in 2020 relative to the prior year of some of the key markets experienced weakness due to a combination of COVID-19 oil price on weather related economic slowdown in the first nine months of the year.

Turning to slide 11, we provide that of Q4 adjusted EBITDA Bridge, we ended the quarter $130 6 million up 8% from a year ago. The.

The increase was driven by record organic west segment performance relative to a year ago as well as higher returns from cement. Despite the negative for 2 million adjusted EBITDA impact from downtime at the Green America.

Inclusive of strategic acquisitions aggregates volumes increased 24, 7% on ready mix volumes were up six 4% in the fourth quarter relative to a year ago.

Turning to slide 12, you'll see our full year adjusted EBITDA Bridge, we ended the year at $485 million up five 1% from a year ago and our highest ever.

The record West segment performance was partially offset by lower contributions from the east segment and cement.

The impact from the Green America downtime was estimated at approximately $14 million over the full year or.

Our strategic acquisitions of multi sources in the valley closed in the third quarter. So the 5 million cited from West segment acquisitions reflect a little less than half of years contribution to results.

Turning to slide 13.

You'll see key GAAP financial metrics operating income improved for both the fourth quarter on full year 2020, as higher revenue and gross margin more than offset higher general and administrative costs associated with approximately $10 6 million of CEO transition on related stock compensation.

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Reported 2020 net income attributable to summit, Inc of $138 million was 79 million higher than 2019. This reflected substantially higher performance in our west segment relative to a year ago.

And noted earlier, we also benefited from of seven 6 million credit, resulting from a reduction to the TRA liability and the income tax benefit of $12 2 million, resulting from the reversal of an uncertain tax benefit during 2020, turning to slide 14, we've presented several non-GAAP financial metrics.

While we cant per Q4 2020 to the prior year as well as the full year results.

Adjusted cash gross profit margin contracted by 70 basis points in the fourth quarter, Yes expanded by 80 basis points year to date on the combination of volume and mix adjusted price improvements from aggregates and ready mix.

Adjusted EBITDA margins contracted 110 basis points to 22, 8% for the quarter and on a full year basis, we were at 22, 7%, which is flat relative to 2019.

The diluted net income is down significantly versus the prior year quarter and in 2020 due to the noncash reversal of unrecognized tax benefits and the reduction of our tax receivable agreement liability.

Turning to slide 15, we have provided a comparison of price and volume for 2020 versus 2019 organic average selling prices decreased <unk>, 5% for aggregates and the increased one 5% for cement for 7% in ready mix and one 4%.

In asphalt.

The organic volumes increased three 6% for aggregates five per cent for ready mix concrete and for 7% for asphalt cement volume contracted by four 6%.

You can also see the significant impact of the two strategic acquisitions, we completed in 2020 with multi sources of Houston and valley of British Columbia, both transactions drove higher aggregates volume in 2020, we instituted two price increases the multi sources in late 2020 and we have.

Now aligned this business to market pricing.

Turning to slide 16, we provided adjusted cash gross margin in the quarter on full year in all lines of business.

Aggregates margins contracted in the fourth quarter and the full year. There were three key drivers behind the lower margins all of which of nonrecurring under related to the slightly lower pricing environment, driven by cash optimization in Kentucky, the ramp of multi sources to market pricing and the.

Fact of product mix as we sold through some excess inventory and lower price product.

Our product margins expanded by 10 basis points for fourth quarter, and 170 basis points for the full year as we experienced both volume and pricing growth in residential markets for our downstream businesses, particularly in Utah and Texas <unk>.

Margins in our services business expanded by an impressive 150 basis points in Q4, and 420 basis points year to date on pricing gains lower fuel on trucking costs in Texas from Kansas as well as volume in North, Texas, Kansas and Virginia.

Cement margins expanded in the fourth quarter, reflecting well manage production and cost control matters full year cement margins contracted by 70 basis points, which reflected winter storage costs early in the year on block closure disruption together with the impact of the explosion of Green America recycling facility.

Despite these headwinds of cement business reported a cash flow yield of over 80%.

Materials and products comprise 88% of our full year adjusted cash gross profit and we continue to expect of the contribution from materials will be an increasing proportion of on EBITDA as we pursue our greenfield strategy experienced organic growth in our markets and engage in M&A.

For quarterly modeling purposes for 2021, we estimate the interest expense should be in the range of $22 million to $24 million G&A will be in the range of $72 million to $76 million and DD&A should be 54 to 57 million, we anticipate paying minimal state and local cash.

Taxes, and no U S federal income taxes in.

In addition to minimal cash taxes, we do not expect to have any TRA payments until 2024.

When comparing 2020 to 2021, it's important to understand the 2020 included 53 reporting weeks, which bolstered some of the results by approximately $10 million of adjusted EBITDA 2021 that will be of standard 52 week reporting year.

Early in 2020, we elected to defer roughly $20 million of Capex as we were in an uncertain COVID-19 environment.

We will catch up on net Capex in 2021, and it's included in this year's guidance.

We'd highlighted the wind farm work contributed about 5 million two of 2020, adjusted EBITDA and whether we have similar work in 2021 remains to be confirmed.

The solid waste processing unit of our Green America recycling facility has still not resumed the processing. We are optimistic that we will return to normal operations soon but until it does the impact will be approximately 4 million per quarter in forgone on adjusted EBITDA.

We are in a rising hydrocarbon market and actively monitor coal natural gas and diesel futures, we have of hedging program on policies in place with flexibility to adjust along with the markets.

For the purposes of calculating adjusted diluted earnings per share. Please use the share count of $117 2 million being $114 two class a shares and 3 million LP units.

Turning to slide 17, you will see a summary of summit's capital structure.

Last July we strengthened our balance sheet by redeeming all of the outstanding $650 million six from one eight notes due 2023, which is our nearest term maturity with proceeds from $700 million of five on a quarter notes due 2029.

We set a new record and generating 246 million of free cash flow in 2020, resulting in the closing cash position of $418 million, which was an increase of over 100 million from prior year and <unk>.

Combined with our Undrawn revolver summit had $747 million in available liquidity at the end of the fourth quarter on.

Our leverage ratio is now of three two times net debt to adjusted EBITDA, which is the lowest in company history and is a full turn lower than five quarters ago by completing two strategic acquisitions totaling 123 million from 2020, we demonstrated our ability to balance M&A.

With efforts to improve our leverage ratio and maintain high levels of liquidity.

And with that I'll turn the call back to Ann for her closing remarks, thanks, Brian.

Two of my prepared remarks, with the management outlook on Slide 19, we currently expect 2021 adjusted EBITDA will be in the range of 490 million to $520 million at its midpoint. This would be an increase of about 5% over 2020, we expect to spend $200 million to $220 million.

On capex of which $25 million to $35 million moved the related to greenfields, the assumptions underpinning that outlook into the low to middle single digit pricing and low single digit volume increases in most lines of business and the asphalt volume and pricing remaining relatively flat after a very strong 2020.

Currently we plan to hedge about half of our 'twenty 'twenty, one diesel spend what will adjust should prices show potential to escalate more rapidly.

The outlook for summit materials is price and we are beginning of the year from a position of strength I want to thank our dedicated employees for working through of pandemic to improve safety performance and achieved record net revenue net income and adjusted EBITDA in 2020.

I've now got one full quarter as CEO and I'm very impressed by the quality of this company are excellent customer relationships localized strength enthusiastic safety culture, and leading positions in attractive markets poised for growth.

We produce the materials that are foundational to the comforts of life that are now more important than ever such as home schools and roads as we look to the future. We are very encouraged by the results of our strategic review and look forward to sharing our plans for the next chapter of growth and value creation at summit at our upcoming virtual <unk>.

Investor event on Tuesday March 16th with that I'd like to turn it over to the operator for questions operator.

As a reminder to ask a question you'll need the press Star then the number one on your telephone to withdraw your question press the pound key and please limit your ask to one question and then return to the queue. So we can accommodate as many analysts as possible in the time, we have available.

Your first question comes from the line of Stanley Elliott with Stifel.

Good morning, everyone. Thank you all for for taking the question.

When we think about the guidance in the coming year two things one when does the 53rd week impact for the extra week impact on a quarterly basis.

And then two is for kind of building up the 5% growth here of it almost seems that if we get.

Some of the recycling back and then maybe of wind farm whatever we're already to the high end of that guidance would love to just kind of the here you are frame out a little bit more of the cadence.

Okay. The 53 week impact was in October.

If we look at the cadence of growth here on the low and high end I'll just give you some guiding points on it Stanley so on the low end.

As Brian correctly talked about were 50% hedged on diesel obviously, if that goes up that could put us to the low end of our guidance.

He is a greenfield that's ramping up of the second half of the year right now, we're well on track to be.

To have that but things can happen so that would be the low end of the guidance non res, we called out of some uncertainty because it tends to be lumpy.

In our prepared remarks, we talked about wind farms contributing $5 million of EBITDA last year and so we're not sure that's kind of repeat this year because of the business is lumpy. The Green America recycling right now is scheduled to come online fully sometime in Q2, but we are waiting one point of permission there working closely but on.

The regulators. So they are all I would say on the low end of the range on the high end, obviously any more pickup in volume and price would get us there and as we had this year some extra days from.

Whether would help us and residential continues to be very strong for us as we go through it, particularly in Utah, Texas and the Gahr recovery. We believe that we will catch up on that full year I only have the small expansion that we're already putting in place as well.

Your next question comes from the line of filling with Jefferies.

Hey, guys.

The low single digit volume growth for areas for 2021, certainly better than many of US was fearing just a quarter ago can you kind of give us a little more color on how to think about the shape of the year.

When does the trends kind of improve and just any color you have.

Can provide on bidding activity for public in the non res side of things.

Okay.

I would say when you look at our business fell we actually are predicting the.

Pretty steady so our residential is at the same pace. It was last year. So we expect that to draw of through rat eggs into ready mix same strength in Texas same strength in Utah, Our Kansas bidding has started from the public perspective, and remember we do more repair and rebuild so youre not going to see the big projects come in for us.

As we go throughout the year of the one thing I will call out that is the second half impact as we bring that greenfield on in Georgia.

And that's about $5 million of impact from our Greenfield at that time, but I would look at us more steady throughout the year, then having some big weighting in the second half.

Your next question comes from the line of Kathryn Thompson with Thompson Research.

Okay. Thank you for taking my question today.

And you may address some of the with your Investor day, but.

Really.

And then.

And the chair for.

One of your pet a chance to.

Reviews the asphalt.

What has or hasn't changed in terms of the priorities for crews and on.

Andrew.

So you can see we're.

And along with that your I think its debt.

Excellent.

Plus you have the economy.

Just clarifying how much of that instead of waiting for.

Gotcha.

Thank you.

Okay, I think I got the second half of your question Catherine If I haven't I'll start with our portfolio review clearly we're going to go into that in a lot more detail when we get into March 16th So I'll kind of hold on getting any kind of specifics on that I will say that our focus on ROIC has already spread throughout the organization.

We're seeing our team on the right kind of questions about capital allocation coming up of ideas, how we improve that so I've been extremely encouraged so when I think about a change in how things have changed for us. That's one that we're already seeing play out for our regional presidents and their teams.

We will talk more about our growth when we get there if I got the second part of your question was around the AG pricing Kathryn.

Okay I'll address it anyway.

AG pricing so we talked about the three reasons for the change on a pricing let me give you a little bit more color around the multi sources. So as we said we went with two price increases we feel going into 2021 were very strong now on price and the team did a really good job of putting price increases in I will say if you look at our our organic pricing on the west.

Segment, we were actually up two 3%. If you include the acquisitions that brought it down to 1.9 and with those as Brian correctly pointed out earlier, we actually increased our volume by.

In from acquisitions in our West segment.

We continue to see the price of the Levy will go away. After this quarter, where this is the last time I hope, we'll be talking about bad comps year on year and then the other part around pricing was we just make good decisions around our business. We ran for cash because we had to clear out some inventory and it was based materials that was just the.

Lower margin, but it improves our overall dollars EBITDA and our cash and so net we had the volume growth in the quarter, but unfortunately, it was just from lower price material, but it was the right thing to do to set us up for success in 2021.

Your next question comes from the line of Courtney the covenants with Morgan Stanley.

Hi, Good morning, guys. Thanks for the question.

Maybe if you can just first just comment on the the third or.

For the 50 <unk> week again in October did that impact all of your divisions fairly equally or did it show.

Show up anymore in that specific product line than any other and then maybe just specifically on cement if you can just help.

Help us think through how we should be thinking about volume versus price and growth there.

They are of next year as well as the margin.

Given the well also be summit seen you know the.

The <unk> come back online I'm, just just help us think through the the different moving parts to that segment.

Next year.

I'll, let Brian talk about the 50 <unk> week, because that's an accounting thing.

Back to the yeah, the 50 sort of a great.

Great Courtney Thanks for your question came in.

October.

So October on the fourth quarter was actually a 14 week period instead of a normal 13 week, it was pretty evenly spread across the whole business.

You know coming in October which was also.

It was of dry month on a dry quarter for us actually I think most of the construction industry benefited from a mild.

Kind of start to the winter there and debt.

It helped us throughout the fourth quarter.

And then caught me on your question on cement, let me just kind of bring you through that so we've talked about the Green America recycling coming back on that will add $14 million of the impact year over year.

We have true some of our commercial and operational excellence efforts gone out and secured volume volume stronger in cement year over year. So we feel it's very constructive for pricing coming into the year, We've announced the six dollar price increase as of the teams out there trying to actively get that in place right now so I would say we're encouraged by.

Cement and the momentum we got in the fourth quarter here, but the team has done some self help things too and improving our commercial excellence and doing some supply chain initiatives and then with the Green America coming back on obviously, that's our biggest movements year over year.

Okay, great. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Roger with Exane BNP Paribas.

Good afternoon everybody.

So yes I can.

Just talk a little bit more about the cost inflation headwinds.

Obviously, we are seeing inflation from hydrocarbons bitumen from naive.

But the headwinds B I didnt not contacts would you still expect margin improvements from the different business lines in 2021.

I call, we've got a bit of static on your line here. So I hope you can hear me, but the question was around inflation headwind.

Net defied a few areas of inflation typically we've got.

Labor cost inflation is going to be in the 2% to 3% range.

We expect to see.

A little higher levels of inflation, which we typically get in health care, which is probably around about 8% we've seen.

As we mentioned, we hedged about 50% of our diesel purchases.

Price that's already.

Close to the.

The actual full year costs for 2020 so.

And we've baked in an assumption for.

The higher hydrocarbon prices into those.

Rangers EBITDA range that we've provided you with for 2021 insurance premiums I think is another area that across the industry. In fact, most industries are seeing somewhat higher insurance premiums.

These days in that market as well, but we've baked those assumptions.

Into our guidance range.

Obviously, we will be recovering some of that with the productivity improvements on some of it also from price improvements that we expect to get into 2021.

And your next question comes from the line of Trey Grooms with Stephens incorporated.

Hey, good morning.

Let's see so I guess the first one.

My question is around the Inc.

Incrementals, you've talked about diesel on some other moving pieces, but.

How should we be thinking about incrementals in aggregates.

This year, Brian and and then along the same lines of the you kind of tick.

Tick through some of some inflationary things to consider here.

Looking at the inputs for ready mix.

Submit being a big one.

What is your expectation around the inputs on the ready mix side of your business, specifically and then how that translates into the profitability of there.

Thanks, Trey, yes, so start with the with the aggregates margins. Obviously, we've explained the reasons why Q4 and the full year frankly for 2020 was down a little bit we had a couple of quarters, there where we are around about 64% for our gross margins and we would typically expect to be.

In those mid sixties, so with.

But some of those things.

Things behind US, which we said were nonrecurring we would expect to get aggregates margins back into more of like that normal mid <unk> kind of range.

As for at ready mixed pricing as you know when the volumes of good when Theres strong demand.

It's a little easier to pass on the cement price increases.

Our cement suppliers are indicating that they will have price increases of six to $8 per ton range.

We typically are able to pass that on providing the demand levels remain strong which in a big ready mixed markets, which are salt Lake City and Houston.

We are seeing continued strength in the residential markets there that underpins that ready mixed demand so.

All being well we will.

That pattern of being able to pass cement prices on will continue.

Alright, thanks for the color and look forward to seeing you guys March 16th the analyst day.

Likewise.

Your next question comes from the line of Garik <unk> with loop capital.

Great. Thank you.

Question is on aggregates.

To sum the picking around the guidance just given the multi source pricing sounds like it's been able to get back up the market levels in the Houston should we assume your price guidance doesn't have any mixed headwinds in the and then also on the aggregate volume outlook.

Goes there any is there any assumption of the benefits from the acquisitions from 2020 rolling into 2021 or is the outlook for aggregates volume was just organic just wanted to be clear there.

Well I would say on the pricing, we should see improvement because we'll now have gotten the two price increases in Garrick and we are at prevailing market rates in Houston now is we have as we've done those increases so we've gone through the noise of that we don't have the Con AG.

On the levee work comparison as we go into 'twenty 'twenty. One so we are and we think the market in general has strong demand. So it is constructive to strong price execution. So we are forecasting to be that low to mid single digit price increase and from the multi sources. When we talk about the volume from acquisition we are.

Only had one five months of the year.

This year and that was about 5 million of EBITDA. So we will have a full year of that impact in 2021.

Your next question of columns.

Comes from the line of Anthony Pettinari with Citi.

Good morning.

Can you.

Can you talk a little bit more about the impact of the winter storm on your business. If you anticipate any sort of hit to <unk> in terms of the earnings or loss demand or lost production.

And is that sort of the way job site activity, just get pushed out a week or two or some of these power outages water disruptions disruption of freight is there any potential for that to the impact your business in a way that could.

The kind of linger on.

Yeah, I would say Anthony if you look at our business. You know Q1 is our lowest quarter anyway and it was one week of impact we would normally have that impact on our southeast of Midwest business any way from whether the.

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For impact if we lost that we can September versus leap does not weak in the first quarter.

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Mike Dahl with RBC capital markets.

Hi, Thanks for taking my question and I just wanted to follow up on multi sources.

Interest.

Could you elaborate a little bit more on.

Kind of why the business was positioned the way it was in the market prior to.

What's your sense on what the unless you've implemented the price increases have you seen any effects on local market share.

A little more color on on the competitive positioning.

Great Yes.

Yeah, Mike So when we looked at the business clearly one of the reasons. We thought we were the rightful owner for that business was that the margins were lower the pricing was lower in the market and we knew this based on our other business, we could get more prices. So a key part of the teams integration plan was to go for price increases. So we had built in.

Candidly into that plan, a little bit of volume loss, but the team really did a very fine job of putting the price increase in place and having strong EBITDA growth so they're running at least at or above our projections on integration at this point in time.

But we did not lose share.

Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs.

Yes, hi, good morning, everyone and.

Nice quarter.

Thanks, Gary.

And I'm wondering if.

You can talk about where the M&A pipeline.

Pipeline stands today on the type of assets that youre looking at today versus a year ago any change.

And the focus.

Can you just provide some high level comments I'm sure you'll have more details of the analyst day, but wondered if you could address those items from a high level standpoint now.

Sure we will address it in much for specificity when we get to March 16th, but our M&A pipeline. This act of the team continues to look at opportunities as has been our strategy and will continue to be it's always AG sled and pull through of eggs into markets, where it makes sense that.

Of that we can actually have high ROI C and so every market is not equal I've learnt that since joining this business very thoroughly.

Thus, we are where we play for example at Salt Lake City of vertical integration is very high on ROIC of profitability and that's why we pulled all of our eggs very successfully so when we look at targets. We're looking at that same kind of model, it's either pure eggs or its pull through of <unk>, where we can return a lot back to our shareholders.

Okay. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Nishu Sood with UBS.

Thank you.

I wanted to just get your sense on the quarterly cadence that we might see out of egg pricing.

The gross margin. So obviously there has been a good bit of discussion about the factors that weighed on those set of Kentucky and the multi source on the.

Product mix issues. So as those of you know the the impact as we look at 2020 of was mostly in for Q, So as those issues unwind or come toward the end.

Is that in the first half of 'twenty, one or maybe in the latter half of 'twenty one of them and how does that tie to the low single digit pricing does that make.

Mix adjusted or is it just.

Overall pricing.

That is overall pricing I would start there I will say our price increases go in throughout the year April 1st is when most of our pricing goes in so we don't really look at quarter to quarter cadence has been driven by our pricing per se unless the market facilitates the adult of price later in the year. However, I will say if you look at the quarter.

The cadence of these particular impacts so think about multi sources. It is done we've done the two price increases we should not be talking about that next quarter. If we talk about the flood work is done the difficult comps on that are now complete versus our 2019 work and really when I look at operation by operation.

What we did we're always going to be optimizing our product mix. So I'm never going to say, we're not going to have mix adjusted pricing because we pay our people to manage cash properly and that's exactly what they did in the fourth quarter of this year and it was net the right business decision. So.

The other thing I would say, it's geographically we naturally have some adjustments on our price. It. So our price can range anywhere from on AG can range in the high sevens to over $15, depending on the geography of that we're in so you will have some natural geographic splits that will have some mix adjusted but the big ones the ACA.

Position that we've had on the flood work day will be of as we go for the rest of 'twenty one.

Got it thank you.

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Your next question comes from the line of Adam <unk> with Thompson Davis.

Hey, good morning, great quarter.

What was the comment can you clarify you said something about January and I feel like you were saying that the volume strength from Q4 cash.

I read into January, but I couldn't quite get there I don't know if you took it for that level.

We didn't read and I think it was you were talking about our prepared remarks, we said looking through January into 2021.

Clearly first quarter is always our lowest we did start the year, though with the same kind of strength that we have in residential.

The spending continued to be strong the one area that we did call out Adam was the nonresidential.

Wind farms tend to be lumpy, we had $5 million on our results from on a full year basis from Kansas. For example, we're not sure of that will repeat we are more bullish about nonresidential in the long term, but in short term, it's probably of most uncertain markets.

But the residential continues to be strong on public spending continues to be strong as we've as we left 2020 and into 2021.

Got it thanks, Dan.

Thanks Pat.

And your last question comes from the line of David Macgregor with Longbow Research.

Yes, good morning, everyone in the and congratulations on a great first quarter, great way to get things started.

I wanted to ask.

I wanted to ask you about some bed capacity.

It just seems as though that markets shaping up maybe a little more strongly than we had thought it would.

But can you just talk about where you are right now in terms of your operating rates and how much more could you get out of these assets just through debottlenecking versus having to go spend more significant amounts of capital.

Either organically or through acquisitions.

Just help us think about your kind of longer term view I guess, we'll talk a little bit more of this when we get to the 16th but anything you can help us with today would be much appreciated.

Yeah, I would say, we don't actually quote or my capacity utilization, obviously for competitive reasons, but I would say the team is the first of all volume is stronger and our markets in general and so that has given the lift on volume as you saw come through in Q4.

Secondly, as we look at some of the work that we've done ourselves from the point of view of commercial excellence of the team's done a nice job of optimizing our customer mix. So that's in there as well so our operating rates of pretty strong we are constantly debottlenecking, whether it's we've actually had more of a focus on our supply chain than on actual capacity in the plant this year.

But that's an ongoing continuous effort that the team is working on.

Frankly, we need to get our price increase nailed as we go through the year here. That's the single biggest lever you have on improving performance overall and getting the agar back in full operation will improve our cement as we move forward.

Okay. Thanks, very much to report on the 16th.

Thank you David.

Okay with that.

Operator, Please go ahead.

Okay. So with that I'll leave you with the few key takeaways are solid and we have solid end market demand driven by our residential ex urban and suburban in migration trends of very strong in our key states public spending is robust with $1 6 billion of Covid relief going into our top five states. We also have the option of additional.

Value creation from a broader infrastructure Bill as I said nonresidential is little near term less certain but long term, we're bullish on that because it will follow residential and we're poised for growth with our greenfield investments to sustain organic growth over time are improving liquidity opens up some optionality for us and we are very encouraged by.

The momentum in cement and the improvement there on some of the sales helped the team has done so with that I'll just leave by thanking all of our analysts and our shareholders for participating in our perception study we heard your feedback and we look we hope that our strategic roadmap will be very informed by that we look forward to sharing that with you on March 16th.

Thank you for your time today.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.

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Q4 2020 Summit Materials Inc Earnings Call

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