Q1 2021 PepsiCo Inc Earnings Call
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Joining me today are pepsico's, chairman and CEO, Ramon Laguardia, and Pepsico's, Vice Chairman and CFO Hugh Johnston.
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Our first question comes from the line of Sarah Mackinnon of Morgan Stanley.
Hey, guys good morning.
So I just wanted to spend some time on gross margins.
Hey, first just can you give us some sense of what adjusted gross margins would have been in the quarter ex the acquisitions in the supply chain challenges you mentioned in Texas at quarter end that you mentioned in the prepared remarks.
And then.
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Looking at a more longer term, we've obviously, we're seeing a really pronounce rise in the commodity spectrum across the board in CPG lately.
Core is certainly one of those is up substantially year over year. So can you talk about how much you're covered for 2021 on commodities, but what I'm really more interested in strategically is in the event that these higher commodities do fully flow through to your P&L as we look later in the year or even into 2022.
It does feel like we're certainly in a normal commodity environment.
How do you approach that from an organizational standpoint can we expect more aggressive pricing.
And how do you sort of approach that higher commodity spectrum theoretically as an organization.
Given it does seem like an outsized increase thanks.
Yeah I'll jump in on that one Dara. Thanks. Thanks for the question and good morning, Hugh If you look at it really over the last three quarters. The gross margin decline we've had is.
Really primarily been driven by the mix impact of our recent international M&A, primarily that the pioneer acquisition.
And we expect that to continue into Q2 the.
The last quarter.
Before we finally lap out of that.
In terms of 'twenty one.
There is certainly higher input inflation, but it's been factored into the 'twenty one guidance.
Notably in terms of agricultural and packaging.
In addition to that we have also factored in the the higher freight and transportation costs that we're experiencing out there right now.
And again just to remind you all.
Oh, no single commodity accounts for more than 10% of our basket. So we do have a fairly broad exposure to commodities.
In terms of managing it.
We'll take a balanced approach on this as we always have between driving productivity and then being very surgical with the net revenue management opportunities that we have in the marketplace to mitigate pressures.
And obviously, our eye is always towards making sure that our brand proposition holds up well with consumers.
If I put it all together for <unk>.
2021.
Q1 of the 140 basis point decline about 100 basis points of that came out of the international M&A.
And about 30 basis points came out of the pressures that we experienced as a result of the winter storm in the middle of the country.
Going forward into the back half of the year, we do expect that to moderate.
Incidentally.
And I'd, probably put our back half.
Margin in the flattish range as for 'twenty two.
Premature really to talk about that I mean, we're so early in the commodity cycle, particularly on AG products that I think that's something that we probably ought to auto wait some months before we start speculating.
Your next question comes from the line of Bonnie Herzog of Goldman Sachs.
Thank you and good morning, everyone.
I had a question on Frito lay is certainly a strong quarter. Despite you know really of being the toughest comp of the year. So maybe you could drill down further on some of the momentum you're seeing in this business and.
Give us a sense of how strong results could have been without the winter storms and then separately could you help us understand consumer consumption patterns around pack sizes.
Large pack size is still driving the majority of the growth at Frito lay and you know maybe how you expect that to trend and finally, just curious to hear if you've seen any recovery in the impulse portion of that business, yet and then if not why thank you.
Hi, Good morning, Bonnie I'll take this one.
Yes freedom a.
A couple of highlights on their performance.
There the share performance of Frito has accelerated.
In the last.
Six months, most notably in the last three months, so we feel good about.
Thus far and we've been investing in our brands not only the big brands, but the smaller brands and our execution capabilities, our supply chain to make sure that when you started to gain share. So that's that's very positive.
Mostly as you look at the Q1 numbers Frito was particularly impacted by the.
And by the Winter storm, because we have a lot of infrastructure in the south a lot of our amount of fracturing and.
And they pose are there in this house so it was particularly impact itself.
We are slowly recovering from that situation both.
Raw materials and an actual manufacturing in.
We're very close to having a normal supply chain now.
Your question on consumer trends.
I think there is a structural.
Trend that we have discussed in the Biogen is the fact that we're seeing more and more small portion consumption.
The snacks business.
To a certain extent also in the beverage business saw smaller.
Units.
Especially now in the form of multi box given that is an increase in home consumption. That's the day consumer packages that is that is growing the fastest and I've seen that the team has been very good at provide even more personalization around that it created more combination with multi box.
Which drives eventually even that consumers like variety drives it drives per well.
Seeing a lot of growth there I think that's going to be structural.
<unk> in that business now.
Now to your question on mobility, Yes, we're seeing.
Consumers in the U S. Obviously moving around much more which has a positive impact by definition and.
And consumption trends in both large format and small format. So we're seeing much more single serve growth in both channels latch for Mark in small format. So those are all set.
Some trends that we're seeing there is still uncertainty around in home consumption I think and we're going to have more information about.
Consumer behavior in the next few months.
Consumers decide you know.
How much do they go back to work in offices, how much they venture out for for some of their meals. During the day. So we have obviously a lot of insights.
Our future projections are based on those insights, yes, I think the consumer will show us more as we go along in the next I would say six to nine months yeah.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Andrea Teixeira of Jpmorgan.
Thank you good morning.
Joe I wanted to go back to the top line and the cadence of the quarter.
Obviously, the last thing you saw pantry load, but also as I mentioned before the disruptions of the winter storms.
It'd be like could it behind you. So it's a two part of question number one are you seeing foodservice less negative as you asked the extra third quarter worldwide and then.
On your price mix was it was pretty strong then obviously no pack.
Out of the business day, our Tam.
It has been negatively impacted by the large portion of that Lifesize packs are you seeing that improving and any opportunity to along with that mitigated some of the cost pressures with more pricing. Thank you.
Good morning Indra.
Yeah on the foodservice trends.
Yes, we're seeing obviously as we're lapping the lockdown shelf last year.
We're seeing obviously much.
Better traffic in that channel and.
Are going to see better consumption, especially as we can.
Go forward.
Different different levels of recovery across different channels.
Within foodservice, but in general we see positive trends.
That should be very good for both our beverages on the snack business, obviously that will have implications in home as well so I think we'll.
We'll see anywhere can librium of consumption going forward.
The rest are sorry, what was the second one I forgot Indra.
Her line has been closer okay, well listen.
In terms of the future of consumption trends I think what I said to Bonnie earlier, and what we're seeing in foodservice that will determine the future growth of our of our portfolio.
Yeah. It Ramon just add to that I think she was also asking about large large package versus small package and abbvie.
Mostly its mobility increases small package will will tend to take on a more prominent role, which which obviously has positive Pos.
Sort of margin implications for us.
Yeah, which is along the lines of what I was telling Bonnie.
There are some structural trends on the small format.
That will continue to.
Two categories going forward here.
Our next question comes from the line of Lauren Lieberman of Barclays.
Hi, Thanks, good morning.
I wanted to talk a little bit maybe about TVN, a margins I know you've talked about.
Our objective is to get those margins up significantly through portfolio mix channel mix cost savings.
The 100 basis points in this quarter I'm guessing the lower promotion helped to that but if you could just talk a little bit about some of the key inputs to drive that margin improvement and how we should think about cadence you know as this quarter at the start of it or is this more of a one off in that trajectory.
Yeah, Hi.
We've been improving margins at <unk> now for a few quarters.
What are you seeing in Q1 as you know.
As a realization of the Air force the team are doing in the multiple vectors that we referred to earlier, so theres better portfolio mix.
There is as you say in a better revenue management because of the different channels, but there is also an important productivity journey that the team has started chart cost per unit across.
Many levers of the P&L are also improving and so we're seeing both a better mix management better price realization and a better cost.
Management through the.
Through to the P&L, we're also seeing a better returns on our A&M we're seeing.
ROI on our A&M getting better which will give us probably and importantly also to optimize our A&M as we go forward in the year, so multiple vectors and.
Good good good.
Good output from a lot of these different elements that will drive the overall profit improvement upside DNA.
Your next question comes from the line of Bryan Spillane of Bank of America.
Hey, good morning.
Maybe just wanted to follow up on.
On remote and the comments you just made on any deficiencies.
Looking at the in the 10-Q it seems like.
Advertising or marketing was down in a lot of segments I'm not sure if it was up or down at all for the for the whole company.
But I guess I was wondering given where we sit today in terms of the stage of reopening Hugh.
You still are you spending like it moderating at normal levels.
Currently or will that kind of unfold as things reopen so really just trying to understand whether or not marketing was up or down but more importantly, or are you able to kind of spend that at full levels, yet or is the environment not really there to do that.
Hi, Brian Good morning, listen our position of marketing as it has been always a a positive one in terms of continuing to invest in our brands.
Rationally and.
We didn't got meaningful DRA and in last year, because I think that that really gives us the right to compete in.
Continue to develop the brand equity of our brands.
That having said that we're continue to get much better at understanding and measuring the ROI of the different types of marketing we can do.
For the different brands in different channels with different types of content and we're getting better at optimizing that that our bodies.
What is a very sizable and in budget across the company. So.
Clearly we are our strategic position is to continue to invest in a N.
A N a.
As a big driver of long term growth and brand development.
Obviously, we're trying to.
With every investment that we make across the company we're trying to.
They have the highest return on that on that and then both in terms of geographies channels brands and different opportunities so that the end.
Number in the P&L is a combination of those two those two inputs.
Hey, Ramon if I can just add.
To your answer as well.
In particular, Brian on North America beverages, we've talked about in the past that.
There may be an opportunity.
To spend at a lower level, while while maintaining competitiveness and to.
To the degree that opportunity presents itself, we certainly expect to take advantage of it.
Your next question comes from the line of Laura Grande of Guggenheim.
Yes, good morning, everyone.
Hey, Mike I'd like to fix should become the energy category I mean, I like to understand the retail reception.
Do you are you in a geofence, even the U S specifically and are.
The revamp of Rockstar, they're known for a month and do rise and the situation are we as a bank, which seems to be getting more smoothly. We can say so.
So and that is important to understand because the segment is becoming even more deals done before with many more players monster. How do you sum all of these core salesforce, so really like to understand how the retailers are seeing your friends seat there. Thank you.
Thank you Lisa.
It's clearly a focus category for us with a lot of effort not only in the U S. But also internationally.
So let me go.
One by one on the different components of it.
The first thing I would say.
The Starbucks energy segment, which as you know we've been working on it for many years now.
Continues to grow double digits. So that that is very unique and quite defensible for ISR double shot triple shocks continue to grow at a double digit on our partnership with Starbucks is that a very very good relationship now when you go into the pure energy a couple of things as you said the bag business has stabilized.
And actually.
We're growing very nicely. So we're feeling good about that part.
When it comes to our brands.
Early but very positive.
Reaction from.
From the consumer early trial I would say from the customer very strong reaction on our months undue rice clearly that's a product where.
I think our marketing teams on R&D teams have done a phenomenal job.
Finding a.
Very particular insight on there is a need for a morning energy drink that is a unique and differentiated I think the product delivers on that and the early feedback we're getting from it.
<unk> and retailers is very good the teams are full on in terms of distribution and as you know we signed with liver on James.
And that's going to create.
Very very good awareness for the brand in a very good early trials when it comes to Rockstar also I think the teams have done a great job.
With the repositioning of the brand with the formulation of the products with the international launch and relaunch here in the U S.
The early again, it's only six weeks in the market really with the new.
With the new graphics, and then you're repositioning we started with Super Bowl on the advertising front. Our early reads are very positive.
Third to what it was.
A flat to negative net sales growth is now in the positive territory unquiet quite high but I would say, it's too early to call, whether we're really bring in new consumers to the brand and whether those consumers stay with the brand I think we're going to need a few more quarters to really understand what's happening on the consumer level.
From from the sell in and from the customer reaction very positive across the four the four vectors and it makes us feel.
Confidant and data we have we have a good foundation from which to build upon.
With future innovation and future.
<unk> event, so a good starting point.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Vivien <unk> of Cowen.
Hi, good morning.
I was hoping to discuss your beverage innovation strategy. Please as we noticed that last week in Germany, you launched a Rockstar plus.
So as it relates to that but can you discuss your broader plans for that offering beyond Germany, and then related to that can you also please discuss your appetite to introduce him or Ethernet CBD beverage offering in the U S. Please thank you.
Yeah, Hi.
Yes, we're testing innovation across the world.
Different different consumer spaces.
And we will see depending on the performance of the products that we decided to lift and shift.
I would say the day test in Germany is very particular for that country. There is a sizable segment of it.
Hum dreams.
In Germany, we will read that.
I wouldn't take any broader conclusions.
For the for the broader company our focus now is on the pure energy category. We have identified the day morning location is.
Open opportunity that is not well covered by existing propositions and I think we have also the coffee bar and we have some other priorities in our in our portfolio, where we would have liked the team to fuck collision and we'll test and learn from some of the other opportunities that we have globally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Lauren Lieberman of Barclays.
Oh, Thank you I'm glad I am glad I got in again.
I was hoping to talk a little bit about China, because my sense is that with China being about two thirds is Asia. If I'm right at this point the growth there has been very very strong and the comparisons in terms of Covid with only two months wouldn't have been that severe just I guess, the Chinese new year portion so.
I was wondering if you could talk a little bit of that China does.
There anything youre doing differently there share progression.
Yes, I'd be curious on update on China. Thank you.
Thank you yeah, China is a bit of a.
Various special K, it's not given that how COVID-19 is clearly a different cycle than in other countries around the world We're seeing.
Obviously, there is a little bit of noise in our Q1 numbers because of the different timing of Chinese new year. So you know.
Clearly there was a very good performance in China. This year part of that is the fact that we capture more of a Chinese new year this year versus last year, but having said that the trends in China are very positive in terms of consumer mobility and consumer spending.
We're obviously benefiting from that on top of it.
In snacks, we continue to gain share.
We're building.
New amount of factoring we're building new Agra programs, we're building.
We're investing in rural areas for a better distribution of our snacks business and we are as you know we bought a b in Chile.
Which is a Chinese.
Chinese company that has a portfolio of Mike Curless snacks.
Which complements our strong potato chip business that we've been building for many years on this <unk> side I would say very.
I'm very encouraged by the by the positive share by the by the mobility about the return on the investments we've made on rural areas and more capital distribution with regards to beverages. It's been a it is really a very positive performance for the category and we've been holding share gain in <unk>.
Little bit of share in China.
In the categories, where we perform.
Clearly the away from home business in China is improving and that is that is giving the category a very very high growth.
Numbers in general so feeling good about China and feeling good about about the the balance of the year in that country.
Growth.
The growth expectations off of the economy are positive as was recently laid out by the government and we're seeing that in in the consumption.
Obviously, China is a very dynamic market and what we're seeing is massive changes in in channels of consumption. So there are a lot of new channels of consumption develop in social.
Social channels in a new kind of entertainment E Commerce type of channels are driving changes in the and the consumer.
And the way companies need to adapt their supply chain and their marketing spend but overall as a country continues to be a very important.
Very large business opportunity for for us.
Your next question comes from the line of Commvault Gosh, a lot of credit Suisse.
Hi, can you talk a little bit about you mentioned being covered on commodities.
The diversity of your commodity base can you talk a bit about labor and staffing what youre seeing there in terms of.
Any price crush cost pressure.
As well as what we should be expecting in terms of the of Covid costs and maybe in a saving year over year of Covid costs that are in your P&L at the moment.
Okay.
Hi.
Yes, two things on Covid.
We're obviously well go with the with the largest society now so whenever there is a dropping cases, our cost go down and we've seen that in the U S. We've seen.
It dropped early in the quarter, but then we see more cases now in.
In other parts of the well we haven't seen a reduction really Joe.
Do you think about Latin America, if you think about Europe Africa, we see you know.
Until they pretty much the same number of cases that were seeing late in the years. Our COVID-19 costs will continue to be obviously two of them to a lower level than last year, while we continue to be a factor in there is there is we go with how the government or broader society is able to to manage the pandemic into <unk>.
Current geographies.
So that is that is the situation Hugh you want to take the other part.
Yeah in terms of labor labor pressures.
Right now in the U S come all of its it's actually okay. We we haven't seen a lot of labor inflation, and where we're able to get employees reasonably well right now so how how that's going to play going forward remains to be seen as the economy picks up but.
At least that's where right now we're doing fine on that front and then.
As you know and as Ramon alluded to as well last year, we had around $800 million of Covid costs.
And as I've commented before our exit rate on the quarter was.
It was about.
I believe it was.
Somewhere in the neighborhood of <unk>.
20 million to 30 million Bucks period.
We ought to see that number stayed the same to sequentially decline over time as Ramon noted given the.
As Covid cases go away, obviously, our costs tend to go away as well.
Your next question comes from the line of Steve powers with Deutsche Bank.
Yeah, Hey, good morning. Thanks.
Maybe as a follow up in parts of where Dara and Bonnie started off the call you know in the past when we've seen an inflation in corn and other inputs that impact pretty late.
Especially North America. My perception is that Pepsico is often ended up cost advantage for a period of time versus competition, just because I think your hedging programs tend to be more structural and long dated versus peers.
Mike I guess is that fair and if so do you see that phenomenon taking shape in the current year as well and I guess, if you do do you see that more as an opportunity to improve profitability, maybe consolidate a bit more share.
While you are advantaged or perhaps a combination just how youre thinking about that.
If my underlying premises is correct in the first place.
If you bought Ramon I'll jump in on that one.
Steve with with the the competition there that we have right now obviously, it's a pretty diverse group. My my sense is you're probably right, we're probably a little bit further out.
In the Frito lay business, where we're going to sort of run our play.
We have our pricing strategies in place right now and my expectation is we'll execute against those in and frankly, we will see how competition responds to them. So its little bit hard for me to project how.
How it is they're going to operate but I think we we by and large have but have our pricing plans in place again, well will we use some surgical net revenue management techniques. During the course of the next two quarters, yes, we will but by and large I think where we're relatively locked into what we're looking to do for the year I didn't.
Want to clarify one thing in regards to cobalt question, I mentioned $20 million to $30 million of period periods, an internal term that we use so I should qualify that as 60 to 80 million Bucks a quarter is probably the exit rate that we had on on Covid costs.
And then we'll see where we land.
As the year progresses.
Your next question comes from the line of Robert Hottenstein of Evercore.
Great. Thank you very much.
Wanted to just turn to a question on <unk>.
Promos in the percentage of.
CSD and beverages sold on promo in the U S and I was wondering if you know kind of if you kind of help us sort of level set maybe where it was in 2019, where it fell down to in 2020, what it looks like for the quarter and your expectations for the rest of the year.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Robert listen, we're seeing a very rational invite.
Environment for pricing and promotions in the U S. At this point in time.
In the category of thing.
You know that.
The level of promotions that were seeing in Q1 that we had in Q1 was lower than what we had in Q1 last year.
And we.
Our expectations is that we should be seen a rational.
Market for the balance of the year.
At this point there is steel.
Shortages in.
I think in supply from many of the players in the category.
And we're all becoming better at understanding the.
Improving our net revenue management capabilities and understand their return on promotions that we are becoming more sophisticated and working with our partners on getting the best return on their promotion. So I think there is a there's probably a high likelihood that the.
The market will remain a rationale for the next.
Next quarters and that's what we are what we're trying to do ourselves and I expect the rest of the industry.
Would follow a similar agenda of appreciation.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Grundy Jefferies.
Great. Thanks, Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question Ramon I wanted to return to North America beverages, just sort of overall state of the Union. Because this of course was there was a big focus for you. When you took over as CEO. The question relates to market share progress for key brands Pepsi Mountain Dew Gatorade looking at the Nielsen data.
<unk> has been a bit mix, particularly in sports drinks reiterate continues to lose quite a bit of share. So if you could comment on your overall, let us a level of satisfaction with trends adequacy of investment, particularly as you look to restore margins in the segment here in the not just this year, but in the coming years as well.
Would be helpful. Thank you.
Thank you.
We feel very good about our competitiveness in beverages in North America and.
We laid out.
Years ago, we wanted to go one Brian at a time and make sure that each one of our big brands became really competitive and we've done it very I would say very surgically and very consistently so we started with Pepsi Pepsi now is growing.
It's been growing.
For the last year and a half.
At a good level and it's starting to gain share in CSD is outgrowing some of our competitors. We went in with the Gatorade, Our second largest brand and again.
Yes, Gary is not growing share in the sports drink category, but it's being one of the top three brands contributing to overall growth of LRB in 2020 on continues in 2021.
Yeah.
<unk> solves Gatorade has been very strong not only because of what.
What is it in an amazing platform for the brand in Gatorade zero, but also by by growing the rest of the portfolio and then third mountain view, which was our pending.
A third brand, where we it took us a little bit longer, but if you see the growth of mountain view in the last two quarter, especially the last quarter. It's been it's been very high right and it's not only the fact that we've added innovation, but our base months of new is growing again at a very good level. So we see our three.
Core brands continue to or starting to be very consistently growing as a category of phase of our evolved that complemented with the fact that we always said we want to continue to be leaders in some of the sub segments that are growing faster right. So if you take coffee large segment in the beverage category.
The U S, where we're clearly outgrowing everybody else.
Do you see a Ts, we're also gaining sharing ts with our pure leaf on our leap some brands.
Think about a sparkling water probably hasn't been a big success. So we continue to play on the periphery, but we were.
We're making what I would say very good and consistent progress in.
What are the core brands of our business and obviously very meaningful for for the overall category itself, we're very happy with.
We will continue to improve as I said earlier energies are next.
And a big space or where we have multiple tools that we will use very incrementally to each other to drive to drive.
Hopefully share gains as well in that and what is a very dynamic category as Noel mentioned earlier Joe.
We feel very good I think the business is becoming much more competitive the business, becoming much more agile the business is becoming much more thoughtful about performing today and investing for the future. So a lot of positives that we see in the North America beverages.
In the last whatever two years and we're very hopeful that this will be a pretty good year for that but that business given the trends that we see in the market.
Performance in India, and the activities that we have planned for our brands. So we're feeling good we're feeling very good about D N a.
Okay.
Our next question comes from the line of Sean King of UBS.
Hi, good morning.
And just maybe more international focus, but does your outlook take into account any.
Negative margin mix effects of our beverage rebound versus the tougher comparisons the snacking side or am I thinking about the dynamics of hurting correctly with respect to international margins for snack and beverage.
Yeah, Mike you'd look at that.
Yeah, yeah, it'd be black or white I'll jump in on that one.
Yeah, Shaun in short, yes, our outlook does account for.
For what you just described so.
In terms of margins.
Outside the U S.
The snack margins tend to be lower relative to.
The beverages, where we are a franchise company, obviously franchises is a higher margin business, but.
But where we operate a company owned bottling operations.
A little.
So overall.
Our outlook sort of captures all of those mix impacts I don't expect anything to be disruptive over the course of 2021.
Our final question will come from the line of Chris Terry of Wells Fargo Securities.
Okay.
Hi, good morning.
To clarify a prior answer I've mentioned that promo you expect it to remain rational is that to imply that you think it can remain structurally lower for the long term or do you expect a normalization back to pre COVID-19 levels I didn't quite get Directionally, which way you were talking about and then the question just related to price.
<unk>.
It wasn't historically high price in PV in the trend we've been seeing more can you just talk about.
How do you view pricing power in that division whether that is.
Split between certain brands or or categories and just overall your overall comfort with a price over volume driven approach going forward. Thanks.
Q you want to start and then I'll compliment yeah.
Yeah happy to Ramon.
To be clear on that one day, we do think that there is an opportunity.
And longer term.
What you term price rationality.
In the North American beverage marketplace.
Both from the standpoint of.
Competitive structure as well as what we think is the right way to compete which is primarily around innovation and brand building and in execution.
So we think the environment is well set up for for.
For pricing could be positive going forward.
That's not a temporary thing based on what's happening in the environment right now.
Yeah, Chris I think.
What to what Hugh said.
We're seeing them.
Everybody becoming more.
Kind of capable and knowledgeable on consumer insights and apply to promotions and pricing analysis. It is and so we're going to see more application of those multiple leavers to.
Provide good value to the consumer rather than just driving prices down, which I don't think they are.
It's a big idea for anybody in the industry and.
And obviously with the.
Set of inflation trends that we've seen some of the commodities and so on it's probably going to be very little.
Sandeep for anybody to two to break what is a very rational.
Environment.
See today and so that's how we're thinking about it and how we're talking to some of our some of our partners in the retail industry.
Okay, I think I think that that was the last question. So thank you very much for your time this morning.
Really appreciate it I hope you guys stay safe and healthy and especially thank you very much for the confidence that you have all placed in us with your investments. Thank you very much and.
Look forward to a future meeting thank you.
Thank you that does conclude Pepsico in 2021 first quarter earnings question and answer session. You may now disconnect.
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Steve.
Okay.
[music].
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Yes.
[music].
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[music].
Okay.
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John.
David.
Yes.
Yes.
[music].
Yes.
[music].
Okay.
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[music].
Steve.
Chris.
Yes.
Okay.
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Yes.
[music].
Okay.
John.
Okay.
Steve.
Okay.
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[music].
Yes.
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John.
Yes.
[music], Inc.
Okay.
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Good day.
Thank you.
John.
Okay.
David.
[music].
Okay.
Okay.
[music].
John.
[music].
Bill.
[music].
Okay.
Steve.
John.
Thank you.
[music].
Okay.
Yes.
[music].
Steve.
Okay.
[music].
Okay.
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Yes.
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Hum.
Joe.
Yes.
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Great.
[music].
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Yeah.
David.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
John.
Okay.
[music].
Okay.
[music].
Tony.
Mike.
Yes.
Right.
Yes.
David.
[music], Inc.
Yes.
Okay.
[music].
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Yes.
[music].
Okay.
John.
Okay.
Okay.
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[music], Inc.
Okay.
[music].
Yes.
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Steve.
John.
Yes.
Yes.
[music].
Sure.
Okay.
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[music].
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[music].
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[music].
Tony.
[music].
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
[music].
Thank you.
John.
Yes.
Yes.
[music].