Q1 2021 Citrix Systems Inc Earnings Call

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Great. Thank you Ryan and good morning, and thank you for joining us today for todays first quarter 2021 earnings call participating on the call will be David Henshall, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Arlen Shenkman Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

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Now I would like to turn the call over to David a president and Chief Executive Officer David.

Thanks, Tracy good morning, everybody and welcome and thanks for joining us today and I.

I'm pleased with a momentum in the business and especially around our cloud adoption and the migration of our installed base.

Our transition to cloud is progressing well and we expect our first quarter results to Mark the trough in terms of the impact on the business model the income statement.

So beginning in the second quarter and then continuing throughout the year, we expect to see topline acceleration our income statement metrics as these headwinds that we've been dealing with on the model transition turn and become a tailwind.

To provide insights into the transitioning business model, we've been reporting a metrics for subscription and SaaS and then beginning today. We're also disclosing total air which includes a perpetual license maintenance contracts.

And Q1, the organic performance of these metrics, excluding any contribution from the right acquisition showed continuing strength and fact SaaS a our accelerated to 43% year on year growth and total IRR was up 15% from last year.

So overall the fundamental as in Q1 were actually quite strong.

Like to note that this quarter and involved a really included three unique items that impacted recognized revenue and I want to cover those briefly here and detail before we open up the call for Q&A.

First as a REIT acquisition, which closed at the end of February.

Second item as we experienced supply chain constraints, and our hardware business impacting over $10 million worth of product and so we expect these issues may persist for several quarters. So we are adjusting our full year expectations accordingly.

And the third issue was the duration on premise term based subscription really influenced by the limited use licenses, we sold to customers at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. So.

So as a reminder, in Q1 2020, it benefited by a $47 million related to this license type.

So far we have either converted to cloud subscription or issued a new term based licenses for about $50 million a total bookings value against this group, we have ongoing conversations with many more about a citrix cloud migration.

So the limited use business continuity license is really generally fell into three categories. First one project specific use cases like a U S. Government agency that planned on building field hospitals to treat COVID-19 patients. Obviously those licenses would have no use beyond the project.

Second group would be companies that are adopting a hybrid workstyle post pandemic. Many of these customers are either evaluating where they are already beginning to migrate these licenses and their overall citrix infrastructure to Citrix cloud.

And then a third group are employers that are supporting and temporary work from home and they're really still assessing their long term work and a real estate plans.

The customers and the third cohort tended to opt for shorter duration on prem term contracts versus multiyear subscriptions in Q1.

So let me just give you a little context here, we estimate that recognize revenue in a quarter would be about $25 million higher if it wasn't for the shorter on Prem term license duration.

And hindsight of course, these dynamics are really not surprising, but they are different and what our guidance and calls.

In the aggregate business continuity licenses expand our installed base and of course, our subsequent opportunity for these to move to the cloud over time through migration.

Going forward, we continue to encourage investors to focus on annualized recognized revenue of course, which we believe provides the most accurate measure of the underlying business performance.

So operator with that let's go ahead and open up the call for questions now.

Thank you.

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The first question is from the line of rival Mitchell from Barclays.

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Hey, Hey, and thanks for taking my question, David can you talk a bit like you know and let's double click a little bit more on the and on the debt.

And the limited licenses and the renewals here like in.

And in terms of what what were you able to do in terms of kind of a convincing clients to go one way or the other and you know, we're like and how did that play out and in reality and then the follow on and then a little bit as like if you think about the.

And on the networking side, just kind of you talked about a component shortage like a.

How will that play a crew for the rest of the year. Thank you.

Sure Raimo, let me, let me start with networking and work backwards.

There's definitely some component shortages and I think supply chain constraints and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

It impacted our ability to ship over $10 million with a revenue in a quarter. So there's two things going on there. If you look at when you read through our earnings letter, you'll see that the networking business actually is a.

Very heavily weighted towards subscription and fact, 89% of bookings and Q1 were subscription underlying that is a increasing a run rate of hardware appliances to support these pooled capacity licenses and so while we don't disclose and externally the a or are of that business as that accelerating over the last several quarters.

And so with that you know you'll see a little pressure on Cogs given the increase in component prices, but also in a unique item and this quarter.

And the boxes out of Q1 will ship in Q2, but we're assuming that this is going to be a sliding problems. So there could be some issue moving out of Q2, and the Q3 et cetera et cetera. So we just adjusted on a full year to account for that we don't think the issue as more broadly as that.

And the fortunate thing as it as a reflection of just the underlying strength and our overall app delivery and security business.

Second question actually your first question regarding the limited use licenses. So as I said, just a minute ago in my remarks, reminding everybody, we had about $47 million a impact a year ago, and we had put in place programs to really help customers through a business continuity and a time of need and that was for all kinds of different use cases like a highlighted there.

The focus over the last quarter or two has been on getting those customers to think about longer term subscription mostly citrix cloud. So those companies that have already adopted a go forward plans around hybrid work around real estate and around whatnot. Those are the ones that have been successfully.

And towards Citrix cloud or a part of an ongoing conversation right now.

The third group or the ones that are really still thinking about this and the context, a business continuity and so our underlying assumption had been that we'd be able to convert those to much longer term subscription but in reality.

And what came back was was one.

One year and general one near term.

Because their business continuity and so we're going to approach those going forward as just opportunities to help the customer think through their long term plans and ultimately migrate those sectors cloud.

Okay, perfect and as I said, Mexico right now.

And last point of view and set a minute ago as it and the aggregate.

We booked about $50 million worth of worth of commitments against this overall pool.

Okay makes sense. Thank you.

Thank you.

The next question is from the line of Brian.

From Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Good morning, David I think there are a lot of questions around the expected duration, a shrinking and it's kind of counterintuitive to.

You know, what you did and helping companies during the pandemic that they would come back and actually be shorter versus longer can you just explain a little more what what do you think as going on there.

Well, it's three things Brian.

A similar answered a ramos question and so those customers that have already.

Adopted longer term use cases like like those that are adopting a hybrid work model those contracts are longer in nature. If you look at the duration and our SaaS business unchanged and still.

Yeah still targeting a three year duration for our typical contract actual duration as just a little bit shorter than that.

And this group of <unk>.

This group of licenses that are truly business continuity and people are looking at those as business continuity, there still related to dependent and those customers haven't worked their way through yet and so it would be natural for them to opt for a shorter term license as they figure out what their long term plans are net net this is just a.

Loud us too and increase our installed base creates a clear increases our pool and our opportunity going forward for conversions.

And the $10 a number you gave a cash flow does does that change and your view or are you still committed to that number.

Yes, we haven't changed that.

And the 22 numbers are unchanged at this point and time and I think the most important takeaway is that debt.

Duration as a limited a limited impact item related to these unique one off licenses that we created a year ago to help customers and need that's not an ongoing phenomenon.

<unk> business model is transitioning nicely and you see the success across all of our a metrics, which have continued to accelerate and we believe that Q1 was the trough in terms of that business model evolution headwind, we're going to start re accelerating here in Q2 and beyond and that will pull through the rest of the P&L metrics as well as cash flow.

Great. Thank you.

Thank you.

The next question is from the line of Matt Hedberg from RBC capital markets.

Please go ahead.

Hey, Thanks, Good morning, David.

I don't think you've actually disclosed the mix of hardware and software on App delivery and security, but in your and your letter you noted that you expect the software mixed increase I'm wondering if you could just sort of give as general terms on and maybe where that sits today and where that might go in the future.

Yeah, Matt, we really Havent I mean, it isn't a migrating more towards subscription and software right now and then over a longer period of time and will be migrating to SaaS. So if I step back a little bit and just provide a bit a context and that overall business.

A couple a years ago. It was largely hardware based and we have a a software heritage that and that underlies our business and we were able to deliver those technologies across a number a different form factors virtual appliances.

As a container and coming soon as a service and so what that has afforded us as the opportunity to start transitioning customers to what we call a pooled capacity just gives and incredible flexibility for delivery and their network infrastructure across all types of hardwood a hybrid.

A hybrid cloud deployment model and that's really resonate and that's one of the reasons why the volume of hardware and a subscriptions as up as much as it is going forward, it's going to continue to migrate towards more cloud delivered platform for app delivery and security and being able to give customers a much more.

Friction free way to adopt a different technology bundles and based on their own network architecture and help modernize it.

Overall, I think that this quarter being 89% subscription bookings was probably a bit of a high mark.

But.

Definitely been trending up and to them right. So I think it as kind of bounce around a little bit we're still going to always have a hardware component sales.

A long as customers are focused on a hybrid multi cloud model. So I would expect that part of it to continue for the next several years, but gradually moving towards.

A more complete subscription and then ultimately SaaS.

Got it Okay and then.

In terms of just sort of a geographic performance.

Total <unk> was up I believe mid teen, 15% organically, which was great to see total revenue down 10% and when I look at a geographic based and so obviously based on revenue. So all geos are down from a revenue perspective, I assume that's not necessarily the trends that you're seeing relative to a I wonder if you could give us a bit more granularity on and from a geographic per.

A spec maybe based on what.

And what you saw maybe which geos did better.

Yeah, not a whole lot of.

Not a whole lot of a change on a geo basis in the aggregate our sales teams exceeded their plans for Q1 weighted.

And the way that they are measured on a C V bookings.

The net geos have all been executing well I mean EMEA has been one that has done, particularly well over the course of the last year or so.

The America as being our largest business for kind of leading the transition early in the business model evolution and I think that.

Really throughout all three geos youre going to see their business Reaccelerate as we go into Q2 and beyond and.

I've said a couple of times these headwinds from the model transition to become a tailwind, but we didn't necessarily have any problems whatsoever.

Got it thanks, a lot David.

Thank you.

The next question as from the line of Mark.

And from Bernstein Research. Please go ahead.

Thank you very much on I appreciate the additional color I'm going to stay on the workspace side of the business. Starting first on can you give us more color on those term life any sense of how much of a term license is converted to SaaS versus term licenses as some sort of <unk>.

And as a follow up and then I got one more after and apologize, but how much is still remaining of that $47 million that could convert.

Is it meaningful that could convert and Q2.

Mark I mean most of the.

Unique.

A program for a limited use business continuity was contained in Q1.

That's where the vast vast majority of it if you remember last year and so.

Given that Theres a lot of permutations in terms of license type in terms of what they bought and also where they are migrating we've been trying to just aggregated up and two bookings dollars and that way, we just don't confuse people and so the way I look at and as we had a special set of circumstances a year ago, we generated about 40.

And 7 million a revenue we've already booked $50 million a revenue commit.

Commitments against that.

And we probably have a.

As a.

A large pool and a figure pool of licenses that we're continuing to discuss about cloud migration and then those that are on short term.

Yeah, a short term on Prem term and we'll continue to work with those customers obviously as as we do a lot of those are existing customers. Today. So we have ongoing conversations about their longer term plans and as they work those out of course, the goal would be though and just continue to roll those into.

Such as cloud migration, which I mentioned, a couple of times and you see that and the Investor letter I mean, we've just seen great progress with our transmission and trade up motion.

Good momentum coming out of a second half of last year.

Continued into first quarter of this year, and we expected and thats continuing throughout the year. So all these things and we had talked about over the last nine months for really clicking and doing well and we're seeing an acceleration of installed base migrations to citrix cloud.

And as a quick follow up to that and you put aside the limited use licenses how did the team deliver otherwise.

On SaaS.

Did you hit your numbers and numbers, putting the term the winter a special terms as side.

Well, it's hard to put it aside when we talk about the overall business and so because our teams are tinder gold and in the aggregate. So when I look at it on what they are measured on our teams exceeded their plants.

Thank you I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Thank you.

The next question comes from the line off cash.

From UBS. Please go ahead Oh. Thank you a two for me a one David just to clarify.

Just curious whether the.

Shorter duration issue on.

And on Prem term contracts was really a.

As a phenomenon.

From this pool of customers signing limited duration deals or did you also see that phenomenon of shorter term commitments more broadly as.

As your normal renewals came up in the quarter. So that's my first question and then maybe I'll just ask my second question right away and its for Arlen just on free cash flow.

And I know you've reaffirmed the comfort with the 10 Bucks and a 2022, but I think most investors and analysts are a around eight bucks a share for this year. So I just wanted to just ask whether that's still a reasonable assumption for this year and if it is and it requires a.

That's a pretty decent improvement and your operating income to cash flow conversion in 2022 to get to 10 Bucks per share. So this is probably the kind of bridge, you'll you'll offer at the next analyst day, you do but maybe you could sort of tease it out a little bit with us on this call to give us comfort and that $10 a number. Thank you so much.

Sure Karl Let me let me take your first question. So just to be clear, we did not see changes in duration, and our SaaS business or our strategic contracts and.

And the duration item was simply a reflection of the renewal of these limited use business continuity things from a year ago and.

And that's where this as isolate and this is not a a broader scope issue whatsoever.

In hindsight it was a bad planning assumption on our part we thought that these would extend from there a short term duration originally to a long term contract and reality they rolled into another short term duration because they are a business continuity related again, it's a very isolated item.

It's a little messy in Q1 versus our anticipation, but it's not a broader issue.

And then karla on cash flow, you're absolutely right. I mean, you know as we noted in a letter will be a holding an analyst day and a third quarter will be providing some additional details.

In terms of your comment we had commented in our and our year and letter that that cash flow will be up modestly from from 'twenty to 'twenty. One obviously and then give a will walk you through this one when we get together and there'll be an impact from the <unk> acquisition. So we expect 21 to be a transition but to go into 'twenty, two strongly and and our guidance remains unchanged.

Okay. Thank you both.

Thanks Carl.

Okay.

Thank you.

The next question as from the line of Sandeep Singh from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Thank you for taking the questions and thank you David Heartland for the <unk> disclosure and and sort of related to that sort of as back into the maintenance a RFP, it's about $1 4 billion and so two questions there.

Of the $1 4 million as there could you give us a rough sense of what the split between workspace and networking looks like on the maintenance side and.

And then the second piece of that would be.

We're seeing a SaaS mix of subscription bookings continue to move up into the right. You guys are targeting 50%, 60% for the year as customers migrate over a you seem a type of uplift at weeks debt.

<unk> outlined.

A year or so ago in terms and seen that 30 to 40 per cent uplift. Thank you.

Sure sounds good and this is David so yes, we are seeing the uplift and it's actually been a very very consistent.

And so we're very happy with the progress we're making on the installed base and like I. Just said on an earlier question I mean, that's been accelerating over the last few quarters and I expect that to continue through the balance of the year I think all of the programs and the plans and we had talked about and the last nine months. They are delivering as expected so happy with that with that progress and yeah directionally.

We're of course trying to increase the mix around for US obviously on Prem term licenses there as an accounting impact like we saw in Q1 that just creates more noise and it's worth and then obviously the long term goal as to get everybody on our SaaS platform.

Could you repeat the first part of your question.

Yeah, just a maintenance a or are the mix between work space and and and networking.

No share.

The large large majority a as workspace I mean, if you look at recognized from a revenue, it's and it's probably and an 80 20 split and maintenance would have a followed a generally and that and direction.

And then one more if I could just sneak in and this is just a higher level. One in terms of what you've seen your user base and grow I think you're up to 10 million and cloud subs, we talked about a 100 million.

Overall users I think some of them a concurrent but I mean broadly since the pandemic any sort of a view on how much the base it's grown since.

Since the pandemic started.

Yeah, it's definitely grown I mean, I think the most important thing for a strategically is to be looking at how many of those are paid subscribers on citrix cloud and you just mentioned and it was well over 10 million and in the aggregate the numbers up over 30% year on year.

Interestingly in Q1, the absolute rate of additions as two.

Twice and when it was a year ago, when we entered and the pandemic. So we're seeing great progress there so I'm very happy with that overall migration and.

This was supposed to be the year, where we start to accelerate installed base migration that was absolutely true and Q1, and we expect that to continue to be the case so.

As far as I'm concerned and we're on track to a had a track I had a plan a in that aspect.

I appreciate it thank you very much weighted.

Yeah.

Thank you.

The next question as from the line of Tyler Radke from Citi. Please go ahead.

Hey, Thanks, and good morning, David maybe we could start with just a RR and again I appreciate the disclosure on totally IRR.

But if I look at the guidance it would seem to suggest that maybe there's a slight deceleron where it grew.

In Q1 throughout the back half of a year, maybe just help us understand kind of your assumptions around the trajectory of that.

And kind of the puts and takes and what you know what what could potentially cause a or to not decelerate in that sphere.

Yeah, Let me talk about the three are ours just for a minute here I mean, a subscription IRR and I'm going to speak exclusive of any contribution from right.

And it continued to accelerate for I don't know the fourth or fifth quarter in a row now up 63% year on year and that's that's clearly a reflection of the overall business model transition that we've been making and so with that number now at around 1.4 billion at that scale.

We're very happy with that performance SaaS and IRR and again continued to accelerate which is good.

Totally ours and interesting one I mean, we're just releasing that metric right now as we go through the year, we'll continue to.

Disclosed subsequent quarters and provide more visibility into historical.

Right now and we think that that totally or are pretty good reflection of the underlying growth rate and the overall business.

As said on our earnings letter that we think somewhere in that low teens range is probably a good a good plan from a balance of the year and the only reason for a downtick a a point or two as just as.

If there was any uplift related to this one off limited use license if that added a point or two we just want to be a little bit careful there. So still think that as a double digit growth business and then we will work to keep it and the top end on a range.

Yeah.

Thanks, that's helpful and maybe just a follow up on the.

Networking business, so I understand that there's a component shortages and you're not the only ones kind of dealing with that but what's your kind of a expectation on when that gets resolved and and for the products that you weren't able to ship do you think this revenue as.

As simply just gets deferred and and you like Tennessee, a snapback in the future quarter. Once you kind of resolve the supply chain issues just help us understand how you or how are you thinking about that impact longer term and how that gets resolved.

Yeah.

Yes, there's definitely as a component pressures and in the in a supply chain right now and you are right, we see that across a lot of people and the industry for.

For us it's not a huge number we wanted to call. It out because it was a unique item, but net $10 million revenue will shift in Q2, but we are just assuming that it's a sliding problem. So there's some amount of some amount of revenue that slides out a Q2 into Q3 Q3 and to Q4 et cetera.

And so when it does snap back I mean, what we'll talk about it and we will talk about and openly but again, it's not a huge number in the overall debt.

But our expectation is that it's going to continue through the balance of the year if that changes again, we'll disclose that.

Okay.

Thank you.

And next question as from the line of Robert and Mike.

From a Raymond James please.

Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks, I'm, a 50 million a new term based licenses for them and then a convergence can you just clarify whether the average duration was in fact around one year and you mentioned that you don't expect the impact from the lower term duration to recover and subsequent quarters. I believe your comment was just a reference to 'twenty. One can you just help us understand whether it be might be three.

As she term duration recover and 'twenty two.

Yeah, and just to be clear I think the term duration that we have talked about in relation to these licenses as a Q1 phenomenon not a 2021 phenomenon.

As we look into the balance of the balance of the year.

<unk> and our deal based forecast and and others show a duration that as much much more normalized. So this is a very very isolated items those licenses as did convert to Citrix cloud for example.

And can citrus cloud durations are unchanged and they are much longer because those tend to be much more strategic contracts. This is justin and isolated issue related to people that are employing business continuity in the face from a pandemic. It is not a broader issue for that.

And one more question if I can and my checks have been picking up a lot of momentum for desktop as a service offerings and it just help explain the shortfall as a competing das solutions and why the growth a das won't negatively impact your VDI business.

Okay.

Well, we have a das solution as well I mean, the reason why customers adopt as is that it's just a desktop as a service. It can be just a simple easy way to turn on a handful of desktops and a fully managed outsource kind a manner and I think broader trends that we've seen throughout the pandemic as and adoption of cloud.

This accelerated across the board and you see that and just about every every aspect of the industry and.

And so we don't one of the reasons why our business has been accelerating the cloud as just that gives customers more agility and more ability to manage et cetera. So our strategy of course as focus on the idea of hybrid and hybrid and multi cloud and where.

For a lot of our customers are somewhere in between we want to give them the ability to run das.

Either interest as or one of the cloud platforms manage it with the overall citrix cloud and still maintain on premises licenses a running their workloads and public cloud you name it and just that broad hybrid approach.

And I think that's going to continue I think you'll certainly see more and more infrastructure and move to cloud over time.

Thanks, a lot.

Thank you.

The next question is from benign off.

Book.

From Evercore ISI.

Please go ahead.

Okay, Yeah, Thanks, and thanks, David just a quick question for you around sort of the technology strategy as it relates to sort of a broader conversion to the cloud obviously one of the benefits customers get from bromine as a cloud with any companies to be and the most updated version of the technology and I was just kind a curious this year if there's a.

Any upcoming releases and theyre going to make the benefits of being on the cloud even more apparent potentially to your existing base that might still be on perpetual I and and if you're I guess anticipating any kind of inflection because of that or that would be potential I guess upside in terms of a faster way at a conversion just trying to get a sense a house.

And just thinking about sort of the technology releases in terms of being a little bit more of a I guess, a carrot for for clients to move at a faster pace potentially.

Yeah, Kirk I can talk about inflections in terms of the actual underlying bookings.

And it's all subscription and SaaS, you don't see that typical inflection and the P&L. The way you would have back and the old days, a perpetual licenses but.

We haven't seen as an inflection and just the amount of customers migrating to the cloud we talked about that beginning in the back half of last year and really continuing here with overall bookings up well into the triple figures on a year over year.

Year over year percentage basis, and a reason that's happening or just the same things we've talked about before it's easier to manage its easier to stay current stay updated and fact the business that we're doing with some of our major partners like Microsoft for example is stronger than it's ever been we can go in and demonstrate to a customer that for example, citrix.

<unk>, plus Microsoft Azure and <unk>, the three of them together as the cheapest alternative and the most flexibility for them to be able to manage and run their infrastructure and so I think it's a it's just a solid message and that's the reason why it's been accelerating.

And then just maybe put a finer point on it I mean are there things that are going into the cloud technology that won't be available to the on Prem customers at some point in time meeting you at some point there as a yeah theres a more explicit a.

For a strategy around that too if that works and their benefit ultimately, but I'm just kind a curious if there's anything.

Accelerating in terms of the GAAP between the technology as just because cloud is going to innovate at a faster pace.

It really already as Kirk I mean, it's a it's a really important point, though I mean, most of our innovation is coming through the cloud and all the things that we have delivered over the last year.

The vast majority of that as cloud related whether we're talking about automation and microcap workflows, whether we're talking about that as.

Our prior a prior comment whether we're talking about the ability to add secure.

Our internet access, which is effectively think of that as secure web gateway capabilities and do it all and the con and the context of a city.

Citrix cloud management profile, we now have instrumentation across all of our cloud properties, including networking and that allows you to aggregate up analytics and give visibility and the performance and security into other use cases that you just can't get on Prem and one of the reasons why.

And the migration has been accelerating and as just a value is there and more and more customers see it.

That's helpful. Thanks, David.

Yeah.

Thank you very much.

That was the last question.

A question and answer session.

I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mr. David and Joe.

And any closing remarks.

Alright, thanks, operator, as I just want to thank everybody again for joining us. This morning, I'd like to leave you with a few closing thoughts for.

First as we are accelerating our transition to the installed base for cloud as we've been forecasting and discussing this morning. We expect this to continue our acquisition a right really extends our strategy and as expected to be neutral for 2022, non-GAAP earnings and cash flow, while obviously accelerating revenue pretty substantially and finally these secular trends.

Whether it's cloud or distributed hybrid work models that provide a healthy tailwind for our organic and combined businesses and the future.

With that look forward to speaking with many of you throughout the quarter. Thank you very much.

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