Q2 2022 Conn's Inc Earnings Call
Good morning, and thank you for holding welcome to the <unk>, Inc Conference call to discuss earnings for the second quarter of fiscal year 2022. My name is Melissa and I will be your operator today.
During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, you'll be invited to participate in a question and answer session.
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The company's earnings release dated September 1st 2021 was distributed before market opened this morning and may be accessed via the company's Investor Relations website at IR Dotcom dotcom.
During today's call management will discuss among other financial performance measures adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per diluted share.
Refer to the company's earnings release that was issued today for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to their most comparable GAAP measures.
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These forward looking statements represent the companys present expectations or beliefs concerning future events. The company cautions that such statements are necessarily based on certain assumptions, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated today.
Your speakers on the call today are norm Miller, the Companys executive Chairman gender halt the company's CEO and George <unk>, the company's CFO I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Miller. Please go ahead Sir.
Good morning, and welcome to <unk> second quarter fiscal year 2022 earnings conference call.
I'll start today's call with a brief introduction before turning the call over to Chandra to provide additional information on the quarter and an update on our strategic initiatives and then George will review our financial results.
This is an exciting time at karnes and I'm delighted to welcome our new CEO and President gender halt to the company.
Congress is performing at its strongest level since I joined as CEO in September 2015, reflecting the powerful foundation, we have created.
When I started at <unk>. The company was unprofitable primarily due to an underperforming credit segment Underinvested business and elevated debt levels I am proud of our accomplishments. During my 10 years, we have significantly improved our financial results strengthened our balance sheet created a robot.
Infrastructure and assembled a strong leadership team. In addition, we have developed a compelling growth strategy and our strong year to date financial results demonstrate that these initiatives are taking hold.
With this strong foundation in place and as positive momentum across our business builds I believe the time is right for me to step back from my operational duties. The board has actively been looking for a successor as part of our multiyear succession planning and I am excited that we were able to attract a leader who possesses the skill set necessary.
To capitalize on the enormous growth opportunity ahead of us.
Hendry comes to the company after an impressive career at several of the largest and most sophisticated retailers in the world.
Most recently, she led Walmart multibillion dollar U S e-commerce business delivering over 70% growth in fiscal year 2021 as a proven leader I feel confident she is the right person to guide constitute the next chapter of the company's 131 year history with tender his appointment on August nine.
I have transitioned to executive chairman and I'm working closely with the entire leadership team to ensure a seamless transition.
Before I turn the call over to Chandra I wanted to take a moment and thank our over 4000 associates here at console plus for their hard work and dedication.
It always seems to be the architect it gets the praise when in fact, the builders do all the hard work.
All of you on this amazing team are the builders of everything that we have achieved our incredible second quarter performance and record earnings for the first half of the year are a direct result of your contributions.
I continue to be impressed by the level of commitment and passion for this great company that you show every single day.
It has truly been my honor and privilege to lead this incredible team and organization. These past six years.
Let's continue building the future together.
So with this introduction, let me turn the call over to Chandra.
Thanks, Norm and good morning to everyone on today's call I'm honored to be appointed CEO and president of cons at such an exciting time for the company.
I want to start today's call by offering our thoughts and prayers to anyone impacted by Hurricane Ida.
Prior to the hurricane making landfall on August 29, we closed five Louisiana stores to give our employees time to evacuate one.
While we are still fully assessing the impact from the storm, we do not expect hurricane Ida to materially impact our third quarter financial results.
At this point, we remain dedicated to supporting our team members and helping our communities recover and rebuild from this devastating storm.
With this update and since this is my first earnings call as CEO I wanted to share some thoughts on why I joined cons.
Overall I believe the company has enormous potential to create lasting value for our customers team members and shareholders.
Our differentiated business model combines a strong retail organization with a best in class credit offering.
This hybrid model is extremely difficult to replicate and allows us to offer a value proposition to our customers that is unlike any national regional or e-commerce retailer that I've seen.
As a result, I believe there's a tremendous opportunity to grow our market share within our existing markets as well as pursue a significant and long term geographic expansion strategy.
When I was considering joining Colin I was also impressed by the fact that almost all in store and online orders received next day White glove delivery.
This fulfillment capability is an important competitive advantage and I believe our established infrastructure. It can be the foundation for a much larger ecommerce business.
The company's proven leadership team strong balance sheet and solid strategic plan will serve as the basis for our success going forward.
I am confident conscious headed in the right direction and I want to use my time today to first talk about the Companys impressive financial performance and then provide an update on the company's strategic growth initiatives.
Our recent success has created what is arguably one of the strongest financial position in the company's 131 year history.
We made tremendous progress growing retail sales during the second quarter.
Total retail sales increased 24% over the prior fiscal year, driven by a 16.4% increase in second quarter same store sales.
In addition on a two year stack same store sales for the second quarter increased three 2% an acceleration from the one 8% two year stack, we experienced in the first quarter.
We are also pleased with the contribution of our new stores, which added seven 6% to total retail sales during the second quarter.
Strong retail performance combined with a second quarter credit spread of 1200 basis points contributed to record second quarter earnings of one dollar and 22 cents per diluted share.
In fact earnings per diluted share of $2.74 for the first six months of the year are higher than any annual earnings in our history.
Our balance sheet and capital position are also at historically strong levels. We ended the second quarter with the lowest level of net debt as a percent of the portfolio balance and over a decade.
Cause has the financial flexibility to support the long term needs of our business and fund our growth initiatives.
Now, let's look at our four strategic initiatives in more detail starting with our E Commerce strategy.
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As I mentioned earlier I am excited by our fulfillment capabilities. The company has a leading last mile infrastructure that enables profitable next day delivery, which is especially impressive given the large high keep items the company itself.
As a result, I believe cons existing backend infrastructure is a key component of our market differentiation and can support a much larger e-commerce business as we grow.
Equally important is providing customers with a frictionless digital experience, which in comms case extends to both our retail and credit operations.
Investments are underway to develop leading front end solutions that create a modern digital experience for our customers.
Our rapidly growing e-commerce business is producing strong results second quarter E Commerce sales increased 211% over the prior fiscal year to a quarterly record of $20.0 million.
In addition, second quarter ecommerce sales increased over 60% from the first quarter.
I believe the company is well positioned to grow ecommerce sales to approximately $70 million this fiscal year compared to ecommerce sales of $26 million last fiscal year.
I believe we can continue to grow ecommerce sales by increasing our focus on serving our customers where and how they choose to shop.
The next strategic growth initiative I want to review today is the success, we are seeing enhancing our retail performance and capabilities.
Over the past several quarters, we have been focused on optimizing our product assortment and expanding our offering to include more complementary home related products.
The improvements concept has made to its retail segment are encouraging and all of our product categories posted positive same store sales during the second quarter.
Our appliance category continues to set records in both sales dollars and unit inventory levels improved within the category and I believe our expanded product assortment and next day delivery are helping us to capture incremental sales.
Sales also accelerated within the furniture and mattress category.
This was driven primarily by our efforts to optimize our assortment.
In addition, the recent introduction of dream spot or private label mattress brand continues to contribute to growth.
Dreams thought was the Companys number one selling mattress brand both in units and dollars during the second quarter.
I believe we have additional opportunities to expand our private label offerings in the future.
Overall, we were able to capture strong consumer demand during the second quarter, despite ongoing industry wide pressures throughout the supply chain.
Our performance would not be possible without the efforts of our supply chain merchandising and store teams.
Our retail performance has improved significantly and our home related product categories are well aligned to evolving consumer trends.
Now, let's look at our brick and mortar growth strategy in more detail.
<unk> currently has 155 stores in only 15 states.
Year to date, we have opened nine locations and expect to open a total of 11 to 13 new stores this fiscal year.
Since our first Florida location opened in November of 'twenty 'twenty, we are actively growing our presence within this compelling market.
We currently have nine stores in the state and we believe increasing our scale will help leverage marketing expenses and the fixed cost related to our Florida distribution Center.
As I visit our stores I'm impressed by the knowledge and service oriented approach of our commission sales associates.
Our physical footprint is an important part of our value proposition as it allows our customers to see and touch the large ticket products, we sell prior to completing a purchase.
I believe our stores and sales associates are an important part of our strategy and support today's omnichannel customer.
Our credit strategy as Alaska growth initiative I want to review today.
I am fortunate to step into the CEO role with the best credit performance. The company has achieved in almost 10 years as measured by our credit spread.
This strong performance is due to the sophisticated platform strong team and innovative credit strategy conscious developed.
I see cons best in class credit strategy is a key market differentiator that allows us to offer an attractive value proposition to our customers.
Over the last year, we have demonstrated that the strategies, we put in place to serve customers outside of our historical focus including cash and lease to own customers are winning.
This success supports our belief we can continue to target a larger addressable market.
Our credit programs, including our core in house offering provide affordable financing options for our customers to pay for their retail purchase overtime.
As a result, I believe we have opportunities to grow sales across the spectrum of prime near Prime and subprime customers.
Our complete point of sale financing solutions create lasting relationships, while supporting our customers' financial well being.
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In conclusion momentum remains strong across our business and quarter to date same stores sales are similar to second quarter levels, reflecting strong consumer demand and the growth strategies, we have put in place.
As a result, we are increasing our annual same store sales guidance.
We now expect mid teen same store sales growth compared to our previous forecast of high single digits.
I am thrilled to join ponds at such an exciting time in the company's history. I believe there is meaningful opportunity to create sustainable value for our shareholders because of cons differentiated hybrid business model rapidly growing e-commerce business and significant geographic expansion opportunity.
In addition concert a proven leadership team strong financial position and a solid strategic plan that will serve as the foundation of our success going forward.
I look forward to presenting our detailed strategic growth plan and long term financial outlook at an Investor day later this fiscal year.
Finally, an organization is only as good as the people and culture supporting the business.
Over the past several weeks I have listened to and learned from team members across the company.
I am, particularly impressed by a culture that cares deeply about its customers employees and communities.
I am proud to lead times through the next phase of its growth and create sustainable value for all of our stakeholders.
Now, let me turn the call over to George to review our financial performance.
Thanks Chandra on behalf of the entire company I want to welcome you to call and we're excited for you to lead times through its next phase of growth.
Now I will start my prepared remarks with a review of our financial performance on a consolidated basis total revenues were $422.0 million for the second quarter.
Presenting a 14% increase from the same period last fiscal year.
We reported record second quarter net income of $1.22 per diluted share compared to net income of 70 cents per diluted share for the same period last fiscal year.
Strong earnings growth has continued and for the first six months of the fiscal year net income was a record $76.0 per diluted share.
It's higher than any annual earnings in our 131 year history.
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Looking at our retail segment in more detail total retail revenues for the second quarter were $347 million or 24% increase from the same period last fiscal year.
Higher retail revenue was driven by an increase in same store sales of 16, 4% and new store growth.
During the second quarter College credit sales increased 37, 2%, which we achieved by capturing a greater share of wallet of higher credit quality consumers within our core demographic rather than by approving applicants further down the credit spectrum.
Cash credit card in third party finance sales grew nearly 12% during the second quarter of fiscal year 2022.
This increase was driven by a 73% increase in lease to own sales as we successfully leveraged our platform of integrated partners.
We continue to believe that we have opportunities to increase sales across all of our financing options.
Retail gross margin for the second quarter was 37, 7% an increase of 80 basis points from the same period last fiscal year.
Higher retail gross margin was largely due to a shift in sales to higher margin products. A decrease in third party credit fees and the leveraging of fixed logistics costs on higher sales.
We continue to expect retail gross margin for the full year to be approximately flat versus the prior year.
Retail segment operating income was $35.0 million compared to $25.0 million for the same period last fiscal year due to higher retail sales and higher retail gross margin, partially offset by higher SG&A expense.
Turning to our credit segment finance charges and other revenues were $75.0 million for the second quarter.
The $17, 9% decline from the same period last fiscal year was primarily a result of the 22, 7% reduction in the average balance of the customer receivable portfolio.
For the current fiscal year, we expect finance charges and other revenues to be down year over year, primarily due to a lower balance of customer receivables.
During the second quarter, the provision for bad debts was $11.0 million compared to $40.0 million last fiscal year.
The year over year decline was due to an improvement in credit quality, which resulted in lower charge offs during the quarter.
We expect our provision to be down year over year for the full year, primarily due to lower charge offs, resulting from improvements in our credit quality. However, the second half will not be down at the level. We saw in the first half.
Looking at the second quarter decline in our allowance for bad debts in more detail. The majority of the decline was related to an improvement in portfolio performance with the remainder of the decline stemming largely from an improvement in forecasted unemployment rates.
The credit quality of our portfolio has improved significantly due in part to the Derisking actions, we began implementing in March 2020.
As a result.
The value of customer accounts receivable of 60, plus days past due declined 42, 1% year over year to the lowest level in eight fiscal years and the carrying value of re aged accounts declined 44.5% year over year to the lowest level in six fiscal years.
As a percent of the portfolio. The 60 plus days past due balance was seven 2% compared to 10% for the same period last fiscal year and nine 1% for the first quarter of fiscal year 2022.
Annualized net charge offs were 11, 3% for the second quarter compared to 21% for the same quarter last fiscal year and 15, 3% for the first quarter of fiscal year 2022.
This is the lowest quarterly rate of annualized net charge offs in almost seven years.
Our strong credit results continue to show that our receivable portfolio is performing well as a result, our credit spread for the second quarter was 12% compared to two 2% for the same period last year and eight 4% in the first quarter of this year.
This was the highest quarterly credit spread in almost 10 years and achieving an annual credit spread of 1000 basis points remains an important part of our credit strategy.
Credit segment income before taxes was a second quarter record of $24.0 million, primarily due to a lower provision for bad debts improvements in credit performance and lower interest expense.
As our portfolio begins to grow we will continue to focus on controlling risk limiting portfolio volatility and maintaining a 1000 basis points of annual credit spread while supporting our long term growth opportunity.
Consolidated SG&A expenses for the second quarter were $137.9 million or $28.0 million increase from the prior period due to the addition of 14 new stores higher variable operating expenses associated with sales growth and lapping of certain COVID-19 related expense reductions.
We continue to expect SG&A expenses to be up on a two year basis, primarily driven by new stores as we anticipate continued investment in our growth initiatives to be largely offset by tighter cost controls.
Turning now to our balance sheet and capital position.
We ended the second quarter with a strong balance sheet and capital position as we continue to benefit from significant year over year growth in cash and third party finance sales and robust cash collections on our customer receivables portfolio.
This is produced meaningful operating cash flow over the past six quarters, which we have used to further reduce debt and strengthen our balance sheet.
We ended the second quarter with $399.9 billion in net debt compared to $683.0 million at the end of the second quarter of last year.
In addition, net debt as a percent of the NIM portfolio balance declined to approximately 36% at the end of the second quarter compared to approximately 50% at the end of the second quarter of last year and represented the lowest level in over a decade.
I am pleased with our success strengthening the balance sheet derisking, the business and repositioning the company around our four strategic growth initiatives.
These efforts have built underlying strengths in our business and driven strong sales momentum we have experienced so far this year.
Our growing confidence reflects our ability to capture a strong demand across our entire credit spectrum and the execution of our four strategic growth initiatives.
Before we open the call up to questions I wanted to share my thanks to our team members for their continued hard work service and dedication.
So with this overview norm gender and I are happy to take your questions. Operator, Please open the call up to questions.
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Our first question comes from the line of Brian Nagel with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, good morning.
Good morning, Good morning, first off congratulations norm congratulations saundra.
On your new role.
Thank you Eric.
My.
First question I had and Sean for you, Sean I guess, you talked about E Commerce and just given your background. Your most recent positions at Walmart the.
Recognizing that.
E Commerce.
We're calling it still remains a relatively small business as you look as you look at as you look at the business starting to grow grow rapidly here.
If it's if the e-commerce effort of cards do you think it's attracting more new customer to the company or is it you know is it further during the company to two existing customers.
And then as a follow up to that.
For a long time about the delivery capabilities of Concho lending well do that ecommerce world, but do you think there are any type of systems.
<unk> needed to further bolster ecommerce to make it a larger part part of the company.
Yeah. Thanks for your question, Brian I think I'll address the second question first.
We're all as you mentioned, Kansas Underpenetrated from an ecommerce standpoint, and I believe the company can grow ecommerce to levels in line with best in class Omnichannel retailers and as you mentioned the company already has a profitable backend infrastructure that is a competitive advantage with the next day white glove delivery.
And we are investing on the front end to reduce friction and drive conversion on our site. So I think with the the back end that we have in place and as we make investments on the front end I think those two things together, we can really drive the e-commerce business floored in terms of the customer that we are attracting them I do believe.
<unk> that the e-commerce business can attract customers across the credit spectrum.
Got it I appreciate that and then the second question I guess this is more for for GA norm just on credit and we've been talking about this last several quarters now through that through the Covid crisis. So where are you in terms of kind of.
We went through this period of I think very smartly tightening lending standards and then as the crisis has abated I'm, assuming you've been loosening lending standards kind of where where are where are we now and where should we think about sales over the next few quarters or something.
What extent could looser.
Kurt Looser credit standards helped to drive better sales.
Yeah, Hey, good morning, Brian. This is George first of all I would caution you from saying looser credit standards, and we think about it more of capturing a greater share of wallet of that higher credit quality consumer and in the first quarter as I mentioned in our second quarter, rather because I mentioned in our prepared remarks the call.
The credit segment.
It was up almost 40% year over year on a dollar basis, and that's really how we're thinking about that that portion of our sales going forward is to grow.
The dollar value of the <unk> credit consumer.
Going forward now in terms of where we are relative to the underwriting tightening that we've put in place.
In the beginning of last year, I would say we're more than half.
Terms of how much we've started to recover here in the second quarter.
While we believe we still have opportunity going forward.
Okay.
Okay I appreciate it thank you.
Okay.
Thanks, Brian Thanks, Brian.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Joseph with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning, Congrats on a nice quarter and let me echo the congratulations on new physicians for Norman genre.
Just apologies if I missed it but I just wanted to see if you guys gave any sense for the comp in August.
We said it was <unk>.
Consistent with the second quarter numbers. So the trends are considered continued into Q3.
Got it.
And then a follow up on the E com side of the business.
Can you give us a sense for.
Yeah, the mix of E com sales between merchandise between finance alternatives and and how those compare.
To the stores and then a follow up there in terms of geography. You know are you seeing a lot of E com sales in locations without stores or vice versa.
Sure. So our E comm business today is still very much.
Reflective of where we have stores from a penetration standpoint. So so the fact that we have the majority of our stores in Texas means that the majority of our ecommerce scale sales come.
From Texas from a product standpoint, we tend to over penetrate in the appliance category online relative to.
To the store and I think that reflects our value proposition, where we offer next day white glove delivery and Thats something from an ecommerce standpoint that we believe is an opportunity for us going forward.
Okay got it and then one one last one for me.
Obviously credit's very strong can you just highlight are you seeing any impacts from from child tax credit payments that have been going out. The last few months and then how are you thinking about credit and potential normalization.
Over the next call it 12 months.
Yeah.
Would you say that we have not seen a material impact from child tax credits over over the last few months.
And as you think about credit over the balance of the year and really over the next 12 months.
Given where our 60 plus day delinquency is at the end of the second quarter lowest percentage in a really long time, we would expect to overshoot that 1000 basis points of spread into the back half of this year before normalizing back to 1000 basis points of spread over the over the long term.
Got it thanks very much for answering all my questions.
Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Brad Thomas with Keybanc Capital markets. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, good morning, and congrats again on the new opportunities ahead.
Couple of questions. If I could just a follow up on the adjustments that you're making and refined that youre, making in the underwriting. If you think about the mid teens comps that you're now guiding to is there an easy way to quantify how much of that is coming from changes in underwriting versus last year.
With that I would point you back to the second quarter results, where the balance of Collins credit was up.
The year over year comparison was up 37% year over year. So we're seeing a.
Benefits from our credit underwriting changes and into the second quarter of this year that we expect to continue through the back half of the year, but remember that also reflects the fact that we have.
Are seeing material increases in at least one sales and we continue to see strength in the cash customer as well.
And as we talked about earlier this year our guidance for the back half of the year reflects our ability to grow the Collins customer at least one.
One customer while maintaining the success we've had in that cash in high credit quality consumer.
That outlook remains the same today, except we're doing better than we expected compared to last quarter.
Because even with the growth of.
The cons at the 40% Youre not seeing the balance of sale of cons financing still significantly under where it was pre pandemic and that's because of the growth in the lease to own and the rest of that credit spectrum the lease to own the cash customer.
And that high credit quality customer.
Great that's very helpful.
And then I guess sticking with how to think about.
I didn't hear you all just had a phenomenal first half of the year end.
On the retail side as we lap all that's clearly their drivers and from having more stores then.
And.
Continuing to refine underwriting.
But as we think about the credit side of things how do you think about refining our models for 2022, what the credit earnings May look like as we lap this.
Strong first half.
Yeah, I mean, I would point you back to the fact that we believe that.
We're still targeting 1000 basis points of spread and the credit spreads in the credit segment over the long term.
I mentioned earlier I think we're going to overshoot that over the next couple of quarters as we did in the second quarter, given where the performance of the portfolio is today with 60 plus delinquency.
Just over over 7%, but our long term expectations and targets remain to target a 1000 basis points of spread in the credit segment, which we believe gets us back to breakeven.
[laughter].
Really helpful. If I could squeeze in one more here.
Mitch.
Credit related, but perhaps more big picture and Ginger.
Kindred may want to chime in on this as well I was just wondering your thoughts on the growth of sort of the buy now pay later portion of the credit World and.
How if at all you all are thinking about perhaps integrating that I recognize it's kind of a traditional credit offering almost market in a different way but.
But is that an opportunity or a risk for you all of that and take share going forward in the industry.
Yeah. So the macro trends that are driving the buy now pay later are the same trends that benefit our business, but when you look at you know the companies that are driving the incremental activity in the market. They are on the higher end of the credit spectrum, which is not necessarily directly competitive.
Sure what we do.
Yeah, I would just add to that Brian that because we don't make money in our credit segment. It means that we can always provide a a.
Better.
Value proposition to the consumer.
Because we own both the retail segment in the credit segment relative to somebody that is that he is trying to put those two pieces together.
Great. Thank you all so much.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Miller for any final comments.
We appreciate your interest in the company and look forward to talking with you next quarter.
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