Q3 2021 Townsquare Media Inc Earnings Call
Greetings and welcome to the town Square Media third quarter 2021 earnings call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.
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It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Clare <unk> Investor Relations at town square.
Sir you may begin.
Thank you operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for cancellation third quarter financial update with me on the call today are Bill Wilson.
Our CEO and Stuart Rosenstein, our CFO and executive Vice President.
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Non-GAAP financial measures should be used in conjunction with all the information contained in our quarterly year end current reports available on our website I would also encourage all participants to go to our corporate website at Www Dot town square media Dot com and download our investor presentation, and Hello referenced some of those slides during our discussion this morning.
At this time I would like to turn the call over to Bill Wilson.
Good morning, everyone.
Thank you all for joining us this morning.
I've been looking forward to today, so that we can share our very strong third quarter results.
Provide you with an important update on our improved outlook and guidance for the full year 2021.
But first I wanted to take a quick step back and review how far we've come in one short year.
At this time last year, we were in a very different place.
Although we had already started a recovery from Q2 2000 Twenty's low point.
There was a significant amount of uncertainty that prohibits us from providing any outlook on the pace of our business improvement.
However at that time, we were very confident in our ability to profitably manage through the downturn.
And we made a deliberate decision to be strategic and limited and our cost reductions.
Protecting our core team and resources.
So that we can emerge from the pandemic induced downturn faster and stronger than our local competition.
Fast forward to today and it is clear that we've made the right decision.
Although COVID-19 is still with US today, we are growing our business faster than we thought possible and we are gaining market share more.
Moving us towards our ultimate goal of being the number one local media company in each and every one of our 67 local markets.
In essence.
We are not only back on track, we are achieving new profit milestones and our flywheel continues to pick up momentum each and every quarter.
I'm proud to announce this morning that our third quarter financial results exceeded our goals and expectations.
Please turn to slide six which highlights that our third quarter net revenue increased a very strong plus 17% year over year to $111 million.
And more importantly is 99% of Q3 2019 as net revenue.
As a result, we exceeded our previously issued revenue guidance.
Third quarter, adjusted EBITA is over $29 million.
Which is an increase of plus 67% year over year.
And more importantly was 104% of Q3 2019 is EBITDA and.
And as a result that also exceeded previously issued profit guidance.
I'm also very pleased to share that Q4 is shaping up to be stronger than initially expected as well.
Turning to slide seven we now expect full year 2021, net revenue to increase to at least $415 million.
Which is $5 million higher than our guidance just three months ago.
And $20 million higher than we originally forecasted it six months ago.
Our new full year revenue guidance of at least $415 million represents 96% of 2019 net revenue and 99% excluding live events revenue.
And incredibly we now expect 2021 adjusted EBITDA to be between $104 million and $105 million, which represents plus 2% til plus 3% above 2019th adjusted EBITA of $102 million and that.
We used $14 million above what we originally had forecasted just six months ago.
Not only will we exceed our 2019 EBIDTA, but 2021 will be the highest profit level tell square has ever achieved.
What a recovery.
Although very challenging and unprecedented the pandemic served to accelerate town squares transformation into a digital first company.
And our results.
Nearly back that up.
I also wanted to point out that we ended the third quarter with 4.9 times net leverage a significant year over year improvement and we continue to make reducing net debt a priority.
Our success is 100% tied to the effort hard work and passion of our incredible town square team, who have fully embraced our transformation and super serve their local communities and their local businesses each and every day.
Although we are very proud of our roots in DNA and local radio.
Town Square is clearly now a digital first company.
Digital represents nearly half of our revenue.
And digital is the source of our strong revenue and profit growth today.
And in the future.
As you can see on slide nine digital has been our growth engine for several years.
Only four years ago digital revenue was under $100 million and contributed just 25% of our total net revenue excluding political.
In 2020, one we expect our digital revenue to increase to $193 million.
Up more than $90 million from 2017.
And 47% of total net revenue, excluding political almost double that of 2017.
Within three years.
We are confident our digital revenue will grow to over $250 million.
And importantly, the success of our digital platform does not come at the expense of our broadcast platform.
The opposite is true.
The better we do digitally the better we do in our core local business because the digital solutions, we provide to local smbs.
Encourage them to trust us with their broadcast marketing budget as well.
You can see that clearly in our Miller Kaplan local broadcasting advertising result on slide eight.
As we continue to gain market share in local radio advertising.
Our digital solutions benefit our radio solutions, and our radio platform and reach Supercharge, our digital solutions.
Digital revenue will represent the majority of our company's revenue in the very near future.
Our digital revenue was comprised of two main components, one town square interactive our monthly recurring digital marketing subscription solution and to our digital advertising solutions, which today include town square ignite and town square Amped.
In total digital revenue from these two revenue streams totaled $188 million over the 12 months ending September 30th and contributed 47% of our total net revenue excluding political in the first nine months of this year.
Town Square interactive alone contributed 20% of our total revenue, excluding political and one quarter of our total adjusted EBITDA, excluding political and the trailing 12 month period.
This is not advertising revenue this is recurring subscription revenue towns.
Town Square interactive is a true differentiator for our company and has been a key growth driver of our financial results prior to and during the pandemic.
Since we organically developed and launched town square interactive in 2012, its revenue has grown double digits versus the prior year, each and every quarter, even during the worst of Covid in 2020.
And since reaching profitability in 2014 profit also has grown each and every quarter as well.
Although I believe the growth at town square interactive has been phenomenal to date just take a look at slide 10, which shows that a few years ago in 2017 town square interactive generated $40 million in subscription revenue, which we expect will increase to roughly $82 million in subscription revenue in 2021.
And yet I know there is still so much more upside to capture.
On our previous calls I walked you through the addressable market for town square interactive, which is outlined on slide 11.
I won't go into the details again, but.
It is worth noting that the total addressable market is $32 billion.
Which translates to just under 9 million customers.
The takeaway is we are just getting started with approximately 25950 subscribers at the end of the third quarter and with increasing net adds each year, we are still only capturing a small fraction of the addressable market today.
As we have previously shared we are planning to open a second town square interactive location in the Western United States in 2022 most likely in Q2.
This will have a number of benefits.
It will allow us to better serve our west coast clients with sales and service operating at the same time zone, but most importantly, it will also greatly expand our talent pool, one of our company's biggest investments every year is in sales and service personnel to support our growth at town square interactive.
So being able to tap into west coast employment market will be very very beneficial in fact, we have already hired dozens of new team members, who will work in our new location next year and who are currently working with us remotely.
In Q3, we added plus 1000 net subscribers the 14th consecutive quarter of 850 or more net subscriber ads.
As a reminder, as you can see on slide 10 in 'twenty 'twenty. We added approximately 3750 net subscribers, which was higher than 2019, and 2018 and in 2020. One we expect to add at least 4050 net subscribers.
With our second location coming online in the first half of 2022 we expect that our net subscriber additions will accelerate in the second half of 2022 'twenty 'twenty three and beyond.
As I have noted on previous calls we do not believe that town square interactive it properly valued in todays public markets on a trailing 12 month basis as of September 30th Town Square Interactive had $79 million of net subscription revenue and $24 million of profit a 30% profit margin.
If you were to value town square interactive on a standalone basis, one comparable company to consider would be wix wishes currently trades at 10 times trailing revenue multiple of <unk>.
A similar valuation applied to tell square interactive alone would exceed the current market cap of town square as a whole today.
In fact town square trades at what I would call a radio multiple despite the fact that roughly half of our revenue and half of our profit comes from digital and our strongest growth comes from digital.
Our digital advertising solutions, which generated $109 billion of net revenue in the trailing 12 months ending September 30th.
Continued its strong growth in the third quarter in.
In Q3 digital advertising net revenue increased plus 23% year over year, and plus 27% year to date.
As outlined on slide 12, our digital advertising revenue is driven by town square ignite and town square Amped.
Town square ignite our digital programmatic technology platform has been a significant source of growth for our company growing from $0 in revenue in 2014 to over $60 million of net revenue on a trailing 12 month basis.
Town Square ignite combines first and third party audience data to hyper target audiences for our local and regional advertisers providing them the ability to reach their target customer with the right message at the right time.
We organically built and therefore, oh the entire ignite solution. So all of the AD Tech and offering is in house, leading to a better customer experience, which we believe translates to higher client retention rates.
Our in house buying platform is integrated with over 1000 exchanges with access to over 250 billion impressions per day, meaning we have access to nearly all of the available inventory on the internet.
Making town square among the largest in house trading desk in our 67 local markets.
Meanwhile, the majority of our competition, we run up against in our markets use a single source inventory. So they simply do not have the resources to provide the level of targeting optimization and ultimately the results that we can deliver on our ignite platform.
Industry forecast estimates that by 2025, just 38 months from now digital will account for approximately 80% of all local advertising spend.
And much of that will be sold programmatically.
Having our own programmatic solution and owning that solution in house allows us to fully benefit from these digital industry tailwind now and in the years and years and years ahead.
Town Square Amped has also been a source of revenue growth for our company.
And generated roughly $50 million of revenue on a trailing 12 month basis as of September 30th.
Town Square Amped is digital advertising, our owned and operated network of digital brands made up of over 340, local and national websites and mobile apps.
The success of our town square Amped offering is due to our significant investment in local talent.
And our commitment to providing localized relevant content curated for our audience.
And also the overall lack of local news outlets dedicated to small and mid sized communities across the country, often called quote unquote news deserts.
In many of our markets. We are one of very few creators and suppliers of local news and information as traditional news outlets like local television stations in local newspapers have shrunk shut down we're never even existed in our markets since 2004 approximately.
1800 newspapers has closed in the U S.
And it has been reported that more than 90 local newsrooms has closed during just the pandemic.
Our on Air Djs, who also create digital content are literally the original social Influencers, who help town square create over 30000 pieces of local content each and every month.
Which makes us at town square one of the largest producers of local content in the net tire in United States.
Helping to fill that void.
We believe that the pandemic served as a proof point to the value our local communities place on our local brands as they turn to us in record numbers to stay informed as well as entertained.
To that point in July we had an all time record audience of 16 9 million unique visitors to our websites and apps.
Which is double our audience just two years ago.
Our consistently strong online audience, which as a reminder is more than five X the size of our on air audience.
Has allowed us to increasingly monetize our digital inventory and.
And consistently grow our digital revenue and profit.
In total digital revenue exceeded 20, Twenty's digital revenue by plus 20% in the third quarter and plus 23% year to date.
As I mentioned earlier, we expect town squares full year 2021 digital revenue to increase plus 19% to a very very strong $193 million.
Of that town square interactive will be roughly $82 million of revenue, representing plus 17% year over year growth in town squares digital advertising solutions will be a $111 million of revenue, representing plus 21% year over year growth.
Although our broadcast business continues to modestly improve on a sequential basis. Unlike our digital business. It has not yet fully recovered to pre COVID-19 2019 levels.
This is not surprising as broadcast advertising at our 322 local radio stations was the most impacted during the pandemic. The good news. However is that we are growing market share in our markets as I mentioned earlier I'll turn your attention again to metrics published by Miller Kaplan, which are presented on slide eight in.
In Q3, 2021 town square outperformed the industry and local radio spot sales by 5.8 percentage points and total spot sales by 4.6 percentage points in our markets that Miller kaplan's measures.
Additionally town square also outperformed the industry in total revenue, which includes both total spot revenue and total digital revenue by three eight percentage points.
For the total company Q3, 2021 broadcast revenue was up plus 9% from a year ago, and plus 18% excluding political revenue.
We expect that our broadcast revenue will continue to rebound from 2020th suppressed levels through 2022 and beyond.
In the long term, we view radio is an extremely valuable asset with significant cash flow properties unparalleled reach and an important local connection to our audience.
But as a mature cash cow business, our growth will continue to be driven primarily by our digital platform and solutions for local businesses.
So to recap we.
We outperformed our net revenue and adjusted EBITDA expectations for the third quarter, driven by incredible performances across our digital platform, which contributes approximately 47% of our total net revenue, excluding political and which we expect to grow to $250 million in three short years.
Al Square interactive a major component of our digital revenue added plus 1000 net subscribers in the quarter and increased revenue plus 16% year over year.
It is worth highlighting that town square interactive recurring subscription revenue is nearly 20% of our total company's revenue and nearly 25% of our total company's EBITA when excluding political.
Significantly for.
For the fourth consecutive quarter our.
Our adjusted EBITDA exceeded pre Covid 2019 levels.
Our net leverage is now below five times, a significant improvement from just last year.
Because of our strong performance and our positive outlook.
We have once again raised our full year 2021 guidance.
Indicating revenue that is close to 2019 levels.
And adjusted EBITA that meaningfully beach 2019 levels and set an all time high for the company.
I do truly hope that these results we are sharing today as well as our increased guidance for the full year 2021.
Demonstrate the fact that although we love the power of radio and its unparalleled emotional connection and our communities.
We are truly a digital company moving forward into 2022 and beyond.
Now I'll turn the call over to Sue who will break down our strong results and outlook in greater greater detail for everyone.
Thank you Bill and good election day morning to everyone.
In the third quarter net revenue increased 16.7% over the prior year to $111.3 million exceeding our previously issued revenue guidance range of $106 million to $109 million.
Alluding political revenue third quarter net revenue increased 21, 8% over the prior year.
Third quarter, adjusted EBITDA increased 66.5% over the prior year period to $29 2 million exceeding our previously issued EBITDA guidance range of 27.2 to $28 $2 million.
Although these year over year growth trends are important we believe the most relevant measure of our performance is to compare them to the pre Covid 2019 results used.
Q3, 2021, net revenue declined by only 1.1% as compared to the third quarter of 2019.
Very significant yet we were very proud to announce today that our Q3 2021, adjusted EBITDA exceeded Q3 2019, adjusted EBITDA by 3.6%.
On a year to date and pro forma basis 2021, net revenue declined just 3.5% as compared to the 2019 period and we're pleased to highlight that our year to date adjusted EBITDA exceeded 2019 levels by three 2%.
Town Square interactive delivered another strong quarter with strong net revenue profit and net subscriber growth.
Q3 town square interactive net revenue increased 16.2% as compared to the prior year and.
In the first nine months of 2021 town square interactive net revenue increased 17% as compared to the prior year period.
This revenue growth was supported by approximately 1000 net subscriber additions in Q3, and approximately 3200 and year to date period.
This compares to approximately 2900 net subscriber adds in the first nine months of 2020 and approximately 2800 in the first nine months of 2019.
Town Square interactive third quarter profit increased 12.6% as compared to the prior year and on a year to date basis profit increased 19, 9% as compared to 2020.
Outerwear interactive third quarter and year to date profit margins.
29% and 30% respectively.
In the third quarter advertising net revenue increased 13.3% over the prior year and 19.5% excluding political revenue.
Net revenue from our digital advertising solutions composed of town square ignite and AMT increased approximately 23, 2% in the third quarter as compared to the prior year period.
Broadcast advertising net revenue improved 9.3% as compared to Q3 of 2020.
For the first nine months of the year advertising net revenue increased 16.4% compared to 2020 and 19.4% excluding political revenue.
Third quarter advertising direct operating expenses were essentially flat up only $146000 and were down 1.2% in the year to date period, leading to significant margin expansion in our advertising segment as a result of our high operating leverage.
Third quarter and year to date advertising profit increased 53, 8% and 91% respectively from 2020 levels.
Advertising profit margins of 33, 2% in Q3, and 31.5% year to date exceeded both 2020 and 2019 profit margins.
We continue to host a modified live events scheduled in the third quarter with only 21 events under half of Q3's 2000 1945 events.
Our largest Q3 event was it two day event called the taste of Fort Collins, which we sold out both days for the first time ever we outperformed 2019 event and set all time revenue and profit records.
In the third quarter live events net revenue was $2 $7 million and profit was $400000 or 13.2% profit margin.
Importantly, although Q3 live events revenue was only 76% of 2019 revenue Q3 profit was 127% of 2019 profit.
In Q4, we are continuing with an abbreviated schedule with approximately 25% of the events. We operated in Q4 of 2019 and less than a half a million dollars of revenue.
Going forward, we will carefully evaluate the live event opportunities in each of our markets and are hopeful that we will resume a more normalized schedule sometimes in 2022.
As a reminder, live events are not a growth strategy for our company moving forward, but rather act as a profitable marketing arm of the company, providing another way for us to connect with our audience and communities and allowing our advertisers to do the same.
In a normal operating year live events revenue and profit is less than 5% of our total company revenue and profits.
Consistent with the trends in the first half of the year third quarter corporate expenses declined five 2% year over year and a nearly 11% below Q3 2019 levels year to date corporate expenses declined a meaningful $4.7 million or 22, 8% compared to the prior year.
The decline in corporate expenses is primarily due to a decline in professional fees.
For the full year, we expect corporate expense will decline by approximately $5 million.
Third quarter interest expense increased $2 $1 million or 27.6% as compared to the prior year and was up $6 $1 million or 25, 6% in the first nine months of this year.
This was due to the issuance of our $550 million 6.8, 75% secured bond in January of this year, which entirely replaced our previously outstanding debt in.
In total our annual interest expense increased by approximately $9 million due to the higher interest rates.
However from a cash outflow perspective. This increase in annual interest expense is almost entirely offset by last year's elimination of the dividend, which totaled $8 $4 million per year.
Third quarter, net income increased $11.6 million to $12 $9 million or 64 cents per diluted share as compared to $1.3 million with three cents per diluted share in the third quarter of 2020.
We'd like to remind you that any benefit or provision for income taxes included on the face of our income statement is for GAAP financial statement purposes, only we maintained significant tax attributes, including $168 million of federal NOL carryforwards.
And other substantial tax shields related to the tax amortization of our intangible assets.
We continue to believe that we will not be a material cash taxpayer until approximately the year 2026.
Through September we generated positive cash flow from operations of approximately $38 million or $15 million increase from the prior year period.
We also used approximately $80 million during the first quarter. Two we purchased a 100% of Oaktree capitals equity interest in town square and a significantly accretive transaction and we incurred approximately $14 million of fees associated with the issuance of our senior notes.
We continue to carefully manage our capital expenditures, which declined 30% year over year to $7.8 million and year to date period.
In total we generated $6 million of cash in the third quarter after making our first interest payment on our new bonds of approximately $21 million ending the third quarter with $31 million of cash on the balance sheet.
With total debt of $550 million and a trailing 12 month adjusted EBITDA of $106.6 million or net leverage has declined to 4.9 times, which is a very significant and meaningful step down from net leverage of 7.8 times one year ago.
We are focused on continuing to reduce our net leverage with a target range of four times, which we believe is readily achievable within the next 12 to 24 months.
Now due to our outperformance to date and our expectations for the fourth quarter. We have once again raised guidance for the full year. We now expect 2021 net revenue to be at least $415 million or 96% of 2019 as net revenue.
We expect 2021, adjusted EBITDA to be between 104, and $105 million, which exceeds 2019, adjusted EBITDA levels by 2% to 3%.
Excluding live events, which we believe is a more relevant comparison 2021 net revenue will achieve 99% of 2019 revenue and exceed 2019, adjusted EBITDA by 4% to 5%.
We're extremely proud of their adjusted EBITDA has now exceeded 2019 levels for four consecutive quarters and that we will end 2021 with annual adjusted EBITDA in excess of pre pandemic levels and all new time high record for town square.
And with that I will now turn the call back over to Bill.
Thanks to as always great job outlining our strong financial performance and thank you to everyone who dialed in this morning.
I'm already looking forward to reporting our full year 2021 results.
And I am extremely proud that we are on track to deliver full year adjusted EBITDA levels above pre COVID-19 2019 levels.
And net revenue that is close to 2019 levels.
As always I'd like to thank and give all the credit of our strong performance to our town square team across the country, who fully embrace our mission and were instrumental in our transformation from a traditional broadcast operator to the digital first company that we are today.
Our success in organically growing our digital platform has and will continue to propel us to new heights, including.
Including reaching $250 million of digital revenue within three short years, as we say internally how high is high.
And with that operator, please open the call for any and all questions.
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Thank you. Our first question is from Michael Kaplinsky with Noble capital markets. Please proceed with your question.
Well first of all I have to say is wow and congratulations on a great quarter and great guidance for the year I just have a couple of quick questions here I'm just turning back to our first the radio business can you talk a little bit about the spot revenue in the fourth quarter and how things are shaping up there.
A number of other radio companies have indicated that the fourth quarter. It looks like it's going to be a little bit soft can you talk about your pacings in the fourth quarter for radio before I turned to digital.
Yes, Michael Good morning, good to hear from you and I appreciate the feedback on our results and our guidance.
As I noted on the call. We're very pleased with our broadcast performance year to date, we continue to see sequential improvement in our broadcast business from from the depths of 'twenty.
2020.
And as we highlighted we continue importantly to gain share in local spot as well as total spot for our broadcast business as we noted from the Miller Kaplan results.
In the deck.
As it relates to Q4, we're not seeing what you're hearing from others, we continue to see.
Sequential improvement for Q4 versus Q3, so year to date.
So we ended last year in 2020 down.
X political broadcast roughly 20%.
From 2019, we are still down from 2019, I would call it mid teens.
But it continues to get better quarter over quarter in Q4, we expect to be better than Q3. So.
It's important we're not handicapping win broadcast returns, it's kind of as we noted comparing our performance overall to 2000, Twenty's and our view irrelevant.
In some ways, we don't spend time focused on when do we return broadcast in 2019 levels, but as I noted on our call broadcast is a tremendous asset for us unparalleled reach the emotional connection and our communities unparalleled as well.
And we think and we know that by having the power of that radio and reaching wanting to consumers in the markets on average that we operate radio when it really propels our digital solutions forward, because we're a trustworthy partner for local businesses. So going back to your original question. We're quite pleased with our broadcast spot performance year to date.
We see sequential improvement in going into Q4, we expect the same.
Thanks, Bill and.
Obviously, a lot of these small businesses are seeing labor shortages, even supply chain issues and so forth I was just wondering if you can just talk a little bit about what youre hearing from your interactive business customers, how this might play into.
Your hands in terms of gaining subscribers or are you starting to see that maybe some of these issues are starting to weigh on some of these businesses that you're targeting.
Yes, so we see that more on the advertising side, so I'll I'll pivot to the subscription business.
But I will note.
Things like the chip shortage Cooley are impacting the advertising segment of our business you know auto is down well over 30%.
From 2019 levels.
Definitely the largest in terms of dollars from 2021 to 2019, so at as chip shortages.
Inventory comes back you know your guess is probably as good as anybody at others, but most people assume in the back half of 'twenty two and then returning to normal in 'twenty three will we will get that benefit of auto dollars coming back from an advertising standpoint same thing with entertainment retail food and travel those those categories categories from an advertising standpoint or are.
Still negative.
Not only double digits, but down probably 20% roughly from 2019 levels, but to your point <unk> interactive our digital marketing solution subscription business continues to outperform we added 1000 net subscribers in Q3 as Stu noted growing our revenues, 16% year over year in the quarter now.
Literally 20% of our tire companies revenue as the subscription based SaaS business and nearly 25% of our entire company's EBITDA, we expect our full year chasm interacted to be $82 million in revenue and.
And we expect to have the highest net adds ever in the company's history in town square interactive so to your point there are definitely challenges for local businesses and regional businesses, but I think it's impacting more potentially their advertising spend than it is something as germain and core to their business like our digital Mark.
Getting solutions from everything from their website to reputation management to search engine optimization.
So we're seeing continued acceleration for counts for interactive with no no impediment with those macroeconomic conditions that you described.
That's great and it looks like you're building a nice cash position again can you talk about capital allocation.
Cash flow it looks strong obviously are you thinking about maybe reinstating the dividend.
Prospects for acquisitions, what areas would you target in terms of acquisitions.
Yes, so to your point really pleased with our cash flow from operations of $38 million year to date.
We continue to focus our cash on two things one is delevering on a net basis and then continue to invest in our digital platform not only tiles go interactive, which I just touched on but our digital advertising is actually growing even faster than town square interactive year to date and in Q3, we noted that in 2002.
'twenty, one we expect our digital advertising to be over $111 million in revenue and that would be that would equate to over 20% growth. So we continue to invest in our programmatic offering at our owned and operated offering for digital advertising. So you're going to continue to see our prioritization of cash to be investing in our digital platforms and quite honestly we.
To invest in local on air talent and local sales teams.
Because we have the benefit of this ecosystem of local broadcast really powering our digital and vice versa. So you know we've hired roughly dozens and dozens probably 40, new on air talent in the company year to date. So we continue to invest primarily in our people and our technology and our digital solutions to anything else you would add from a.
Cash allocation or our M&A standpoint.
No.
You hit all the important points.
More importantly, we're also growing our cash balance you know we're going to end the year.
Pretty close to $50 million, Mike So you.
So we're really happy with.
That's terrific well, that's all I have congratulations again.
Thank you Michael.
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Yeah.
Our next question is from Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.
Alright, thank you.
Here are a few maybe I'd start with the first one I was curious.
Your revenues have been recovering.
Post COVID-19 or as we move through Covid are there any other expenses that you think we should expect good return.
As the business rebounds.
Yes, do you want to start with that one.
Sure So hi, Jim Thanks for the question and thanks for joining us.
As you recall in the beginning of the year, we said during the beginning of Covid, we took about $20 million of operating costs out of the business and we said early on that as business came back a lot of those expenses would come back and we said I think two quarters ago and last quarter that we felt that at least half of that at least $10 million of operating expenses.
<unk> would be permanent savings based upon the way, we restructured and we're confirming that now we still feel good about that so we're going to have $10 million of operating expenses from last year reduced going forwards.
Okay.
The only thing I would add Jim is like things like the 401 company match, which we had suspended will be coming back in Q1 of 2022, So that's like a roughly a million and half dollars or so.
But otherwise I'll turn it back to you Jim follow up questions.
No just just following up that so so you're at that current expense run rate right. Now so there's nothing further to come back into the picture.
Other than the 401K company match, which is not back until Q1 Stu anything else.
No.
Where where we at.
Okay great.
Another thing you made a comment that.
We're objective is still to be number one in all 67 local markets and.
Getting close to that are you defining that as being bigger than say the TV operators as well in those markets.
Sort of as a part of the part of this to you also mentioned online audiences for about.
Five times your our audiences, but what is the key conduit to getting that all are they all accounting anymore.
Revenues within those markets.
Yeah. So a couple a couple of pieces are really good questions. Thank you.
So yes, we will become the number one local media company in each one of the 67 markets that we have radio operations and into your point that means we will be larger than any TV station that we compete with in those 67 markets larger than any outdoor company larger than any other media company. So that is our goal we are already.
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A handful and continues to grow each quarter.
That is our mission for the company that is going to be driven by our digital solutions and products clearly today.
In the United States Digital makes up roughly 50% of all local advertising spend in 2025. The projections are in that will be close to 80%. So growing from 50% today that literally in 38 months in 2025 will be 80% so to be the number one local media company you.
Need to be the number one digital company and that is really what's propelled our strategic direction over the last 18 months to become a digital first company to your point about the audience. We couldn't be more pleased couldn't be more proud of the team across the board from our sales to our leaders who are on online content contributors. So each and every one of our D. J is that we call the <unk>.
Original social influencers, they produce and create amazing local content for their on air.
Shows each day, but importantly, they create online content for each and every one of our brands' websites and mobile apps. So as I noted on the call. We literally had record audience of 69 million people coming to our websites and mobile apps in the month of July so were increasing not only the size of our audience.
Which as you noted is over five times, our over the air a M. F M broadcast, but importantly, the number of times, they're coming back and their level of engagement continues to increase therefore, the AD impressions continue to increase therefore, we're able to grow our digital advertising on our owned and operated sites quite materially.
Because of that and that's really what's driving as I noted in 2021, and we expect over $111 million in digital advertising, which would be 20% growth over last year and last year, even at pandemic year, our digital advertising grew versus 2019, so for full year digital overall as we know.
<unk> will be $193 million of revenue, which would include digital advertising in town square interactive that will be approximately 20% year over year growth.
And we expect that to grow to $250 million within 2024, So Jim no doubt our mission is to be the number one local media company in each and every one of the markets that we operate in and that would be larger than any TV station to outdoor or any other competitor. So I'll turn it back to you because I know you had a couple of other questions.
Okay. Yeah, just one follow up to that the does your success in that regard and encourage you to find some additional markets of sufficient.
Eyes on quality to try to move into.
Some additional markets, even with radio I think you've been reluctant to do much of that in the past because of the digital growth but.
Are there additional markets that would.
Work with you on your comprehensive strategy, yes.
Yes, we believe so you know I think there's two different paths for M&A for town square one is what you're describing which is we clearly have demonstrated by the acquisitions. We've done to date be it with millennium or kind of sore or Cumulus that we can take a.
Traditional broadcast company with 90 plus percent of their revenue being broadcast and transform that operation into a digital first local media company and had an almost half the revenue being digital and growing not only double digits, but close to 20%. This year in digital revenues, so the opportunity to acquire more mark.
They would all be outside the top 50, we're very disciplined in our strategic approach and what we're doing here. So we wouldn't take a we wouldn't acquire any radio operator in the top 50 markets, but we continue to evaluate opportunities where we could run our strategic playbook of continuing to have strong.
Broadcast assets. So as I noted earlier, it's amazing that we reach one and two adults with our am FM broadcast on average in our 67 markets. So we can acquire other markets that have that type of unparalleled reach and emotional connection and then build our digital business.
Alongside that and on top of that that is something we're interested in and it really comes down to the quality of the assets, meaning they need to be really strong in terms of market reach local talent, we want to make sure they have great local on.
On your D. J's, we don't want to take you know we wouldn't be interested in acquiring stations that are syndicated or something like that where it really has to have a local connection the other avenue for M&A outside of local broadcasters would be and we are evaluating.
Waiting this out on a regular as digital operations, either as a bolt on to our SaaS business town square interactive our subscription business or a bolt on to our digital programmatic offering those are things that we continue to evaluate.
With companies, so I think I wouldn't limit it to one or the other we can continue to look at bolt but.
We'll see what transpires over the next 24 months.
Okay, and one last one.
Regarding the second headquarters in the Western U S for TSA that you've discussed over the last several conference calls.
Can you talk about the sequence in process of adding costs versus generating revenues I think you probably.
Adding a little of both before you even make the formal moves but.
How that might flow through the income statement.
Yep, Great as noted casual interactive our subscription SaaS business.
Continues to really outperform within a thousand net subscribers. We expect that in Q3, we expect the over 4000, and therefore will be a record year of net subscriber growth for the company, we expect $82 million in subscription revenue from town square Interactive this year I mean, I just think looking at slide 10 in our deck you know more.
More than doubling revenue from 2017 $40 million to this year being a roughly $82 million or couldn't be more pleased with our operation our management or leadership and our team.
For interactive, which as you know is based in Charlotte.
Roughly 650 people at this point, a 58% of our subscribers are outside of our radio markets, probably probably most importantly, the reason we're opening the second West Coast Operation, which we're planning in Q2 2022 is that total addressable market of $32 billion that we spent a lot of time in the last few.
So I didn't go through the details, but on slide 11.
Just under 9 million target Smbs.
Yet we're at just under 26000 today.
We've already Jim to your question hired literally I think we're approaching about 35 to 40 people that we've hired on the West Coast, who are operating currently remotely.
From a cost perspective, we look at it as we will make back those costs that we have for the west coast within 12 months. So it will not given that we're going to end. This year at 82 million and then as you know Jim We've added top line average 10 million every year, we added more this year, probably about 12 days.
You can see in the slide.
We expect our margins to continue to be in the high 20%. This year, we're at about 30% even with the West coast operation. So it will not materially impact our margin in 2022.
With that West coast location opening up in Q2.
Okay. Thanks for taking all my questions.
Thank you for the question, Jim B well.
Thank you there are no further questions at this time I would like to turn the floor back over to Bill Wilson for closing comments.
I appreciate that operator, thank you so much to each and everyone who dialed in this morning, we couldn't be more proud of our results and most importantly, our town square team, who each and every day deliveries. These amazing results with great passion for their audience their communities and their local businesses. Our flywheel continues to gain momentum and I really look forward to reconnecting with you.
To update you not only at our full year 2021 results, but obviously at that point, what we're experiencing in 2022 so.
Be well have a great election day, and thanks again for dialing in.
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