Q4 2021 Plexus Corp Earnings Call
Good morning, and welcome to the Plexus Corp Conference call regarding its fiscal fourth quarter 'twenty 'twenty. One earnings announcement my name is Gail and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. After a brief discussion by management.
We will open the conference call for questions to.
The country and skull is scheduled to last approximately one hour. Please note that this conference is being recorded that I would now like this during the call over to Mr. Sean Hardie siding Flexes, Vice President of Communications and Investor Relations Shawn.
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Joining me today are Todd Kelsey, President and Chief Executive Officer, Steve Frisch, Executive Vice President and Chief operating Officer, and Pat Jermain Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Consistent with prior earnings calls Todd will provide summary comments before turning the call over to Steve and Pat for further details.
Let me now turn the call over to Todd Kelsey Todd.
Thank you Sean good morning, everyone.
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I am proud of the resilience and unyielding focus on operational excellence of our more than 19000 plexus team members.
Their actions during fiscal 2021 were foundational to advancing our vision to help create the products that build a better world.
Through their efforts plexus delivered exceptional results in fiscal 2021, which I will now highlight.
We delivered GAAP EPS of $4 76.
Representing 21% year over year earnings growth on essentially flat revenue of $3 4 billion.
Revenue was below our robust demand levels due to worsening supply chain conditions and the uncertainty created by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Our GAAP operating margin of five 2% well exceeded our previous target range of four 7% to 5% we.
We believe this level of performance is sustainable and we are establishing a new industry, leading GAAP operating margin target of five 5%.
In addition, our fiscal 2021 GAAP operating margin of five 2% was our best performance since fiscal 2008.
We delivered return on invested capital of 15, 4% with an economic return of 730 basis points above our weighted average cost of capital of eight 1%.
This outcome far exceeds our previous economic return goal of 500 basis points.
As a result, we are establishing a new enduring return on invested capital goal of 15%.
Our team delivered free cash flow of $85 million. Despite the challenges created by the ongoing supply chain constraints and investments to support future growth, including the initial build out of our new facility in Bangkok, Thailand.
Next I will highlight fiscal 2021 business development successes that position us for sustained growth as we differentiate in markets aligned with our mission of leading and highly complex products and demanding regulatory environments.
In fiscal 2021, our team delivered over $1 billion of new manufacturing revenue when fully ramped into production an increase of 8% over the previous year.
In addition, our team engaged with a greater than typical 22, new customers during fiscal 2021.
These engagements create a significant opportunity to drive incremental new program wins and in turn revenue growth in future quarters.
Finally, we ended the year with a qualified funnel of manufacturing and aftermarket services opportunities at a record $3 3 billion.
As well as an increasing funnel of engineering opportunities.
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I'm also proud of the continued progress of our environmental social and governance program.
I will provide highlights of fiscal 2021 activities within our social pillar.
Within this pillar, we advanced our efforts to support our local communities as well as the development inclusivity and engagement of our team members, who create our best plexus.
We created a positive impact on our communities through our charitable giving of nearly $1 million, our promotion of stem education, and our encouragement of volunteerism through establishing a paid time off program available to all plexus team members globally.
These efforts support a virtual cycle of well being and our lives.
In addition, we expanded our team member driven employee resource groups, including plexus young professionals, which fosters team member development.
<unk> plexus, which celebrates plexus is diversity and different cultures and women in network, which champions the advancement of women professionally and personally.
These groups aid in facilitating our goal that all plexus team members reached their full potential.
Please advance to slide five for a discussion of our fiscal fourth quarter results.
We delivered fiscal fourth quarter, GAAP EPS of $1 16 and.
And GAAP operating margin of 5%.
These results were comfortably in our guidance range, despite revenue falling below our expectations, which finished at $843 million.
Worsening supply chain constraints and labor reductions in Malaysia, as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic negatively impacted revenue.
Our GAAP EPS, which included 23 stock based compensation expense.
<unk> from our focus on cost control a strong start up a new aftermarket services program and continued robust demand for our engineering solutions globally.
The fiscal fourth quarter labor availability challenges in Malaysia were a result of confirmed COVID-19 infections and mandated close contact quarantines, which includes vaccinated individuals in Malaysia.
Amazingly, our Malaysia team is now nearly 100% vaccinated.
In addition, as of today, the infection rates in Malaysia have reduced significantly and our operations located they're running near normal.
Given these facts, we do not expect the COVID-19 pandemic to impact our fiscal first quarter workforce availability in Malaysia.
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As we look to the first quarter of fiscal 2022, the demand environment remains robust, particularly within our health care life Sciences, and industrial market sectors.
However constraints in the component market continue limiting our ability to grow revenue in the near term.
As a result, we are establishing our revenue guidance range of $825 million to $865 million.
Our demand exceeds this guidance range by well over $100 million.
We expect continued strong operating performance and are guiding GAAP operating margin in the range of $4, 6% to 5%, including 70 basis points of stock based compensation expense.
At these revenue and operating margin levels, we anticipate delivering GAAP diluted earnings per share of $1 <unk> to $1 17.
Including 21 of stock based compensation expense.
Our guidance assumes supply chain constraints, and COVID-19, including potential vaccination and testing mandates do not further materially impact end markets or our operations.
Next a few thoughts regarding our longer term outlook looking at our end markets, we see strong demand within health care life Sciences over the next several quarters led by a recovery for equipment related to elective procedures.
Likewise, our industrial sector, showing significant strength led by semiconductor capital equipment and communications customers.
We believe our aerospace and defense sector revenue will begin to move higher driven by improvement in the commercial aerospace market.
In addition to strong end market demand, we are major participants in secular growth markets, such as robotic assisted surgery warehouse in factory automation and commercial space.
Furthermore, we benefit from the differentiation provided by our engineering and aftermarket service offerings that allow plexus to support the full product lifecycle.
In summary, we remain optimistic in our outlook as we look to fiscal 2022 customer demand remains robust as a result of improved end markets New program wins, and our participation in secular growth markets and far exceeds our 9% to 12% revenue growth goal.
However, supply chain constraints will limit our ability to fulfill all demand.
We continue to believe that we will achieve quarterly sequential revenue growth and expansion of our industry, leading GAAP operating margin as the fiscal year progresses.
In closing I'd like to thank our plexus team for their outstanding efforts in fiscal 2021.
It is through their talent and dedication that we are able to further our vision of helping to create the products that build a better world while delivering for all of our stakeholders.
I'll now turn the call over to Steve for additional analysis of the performance of our market sectors and operations Steve.
Thank you Todd good morning.
I will start on slide seven with a review of the fiscal fourth quarter and the full fiscal year performance of our market sectors for 2021, as well as our expectations for the sectors for the fiscal first quarter of 2022.
Customer demand across our market sector, which was very robust in 2021, including the fiscal fourth quarter, However, global supply chain constraints as well as operational inefficiencies due to COVID-19, and our Malaysia operations.
Worse than anticipated.
As a result, all three of our sectors missed revenue expectations for the fiscal fourth quarter largely due to these challenges.
In spite of the many obstacles in fiscal 2021, our healthcare life Sciences, and industrial sectors achieved annual revenue growth of 5% and 2% respectively.
This was largely due to successfully ramping new programs throughout the year.
Although our aerospace and defense sector was also ramping new programs the headwinds associated with commercial aerospace were too large to overcome.
The result in revenue is a decline of almost 20% for aerospace and defense sector.
The net result is the teams generated plexus revenue in fiscal 2021 that was slightly below our record of $3 4 billion in fiscal 2022.
As we start fiscal 2022, we believe COVID-19 situation in Malaysia is improving.
However, the global supply chain constraints will limit our ability to capture the broad based robust demand from customers in the fiscal first quarter.
Looking at our industrial sector demand in most subsectors, including semiconductor capital equipment warehouse automation and communications remained strong.
However supply chain constraints are limiting our ability to realize the full potential.
As a result, we expect a low single digit decrease in our industrial sector for the fiscal first quarter.
And our health care life Sciences sector, a new ramp of an aftermarket services program and our robotic assisted medical device are enabling growth.
Results as we expect a mid single digit increase for health care life science sector in the fiscal first quarter.
Customer forecasts in our aerospace and defense sector are strengthening we expect the commercial aerospace and commercial space Subsectors to continue to increase the trend in fiscal 2022.
Unfortunately, the supply chain challenges are limiting our ability to capture the demand within the fiscal first quarter.
As a result, we expect a low single digit decrease for aerospace and defense sector in the fiscal first quarter.
Please advance to slide eight for an overview of our wins performance for the fiscal fourth quarter.
We won 38, new manufacturing programs that we expect to generate $251 million in annualized revenue when fully ramped into production.
For fiscal 2021 wins total exceeded $1 billion, which is a fiscal year record.
In addition, the strong wins performance throughout fiscal 2021 increased our wins momentum, which is defined as the trailing four quarters of wins divided by the trailing four quarters of revenue.
At 31% the wins momentum as well beyond 25% goal and supports our growth strategy.
You can advance the slide nine to review the manufacturing wins by region for the fiscal fourth quarter.
The Americas region wins were an impressive $142 million in the fiscal fourth quarter.
The strong wins result was driven by programs that either require or strongly desire a U S manufacturing solution.
In spite of the COVID-19 distraction during the quarter, the APAC region headwinds of $62 million in the fiscal fourth quarter.
The region's track record of strong performance supporting new wins in spite of the inability for customers to easily visit these sites.
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The major reason and finished fiscal 2021 with their highest quarterly wins of $47 million in the fiscal fourth quarter.
Included in the wins are two new logos that we expect to ramp within fiscal 2022, and our Kelso, Scotland facility.
Please advance to slide 10 for further insight into the manufacturing wins performance by market sector.
The industrial sector wins increased to $87 million in the fiscal fourth quarter robust wins in the semiconductor capital equipment and communications Subsectors enabled been stronger result.
Our health care life Sciences sector generated $44 million of wins in the fiscal fourth quarter.
Although a lower than typical wins result for the sector. It is partly a timing issue and we anticipate a meaningful increase in the fiscal first quarter wins for the sector.
The aerospace and defense sector had exceptionally strong wins totaling $120 million in the fiscal fourth quarter.
New programs in the commercial space sub sector enabled a strong outcome.
These wins drove a 31% or 60.
$61 million increase in the sectors trailing four quarter wins, which closed the fiscal fourth quarter at a very healthy $258 million.
Please advance to slide 11 for further insight into some of the fiscal fourth quarter wins.
Including the industrial wins as a next generation cable access program that our customer has decided to dual source with their internal manufacturing to mitigate long term business continuity risk.
The product will be produced by our Guadalajara, Mexico operations.
The industrial team also added a new communications customer who produces a broad portfolio of connectivity products.
Our team in Penang, Malaysia will be producing the first assembly data compression and security product with this new customer.
In addition to these communication opportunities the industrial sector expanded market share with an existing semiconductor capital equipment customer.
Products, which are used in the front end processing of semiconductor wafers will be built in our Portland, Oregon, and our Guadalajara, Mexico facilities.
The health care life Sciences team expanded our portfolio and a differentiated market robotic assisted medical instruments with another meaningful win from an existing customer.
This new device will be produced in our Neenah, Wisconsin facility.
The health care Life Sciences team also added a diagnostic test program from a new customer in the EMEA region.
The Covid PCR test or will be produced in our Kelso, Scotland facility.
Included in the aerospace and wins are two satellite communication programs that we expect to add meaningful revenue to a growing space sub sector.
The first opportunity significantly expands our relationship with a customer in our Boise Idaho facility.
The second opportunity is with a new customer for our Kelso, Scotland facility.
With this latest win in EMEA, we expect to be producing commercial space programs in all three of our regions in fiscal 2022.
We can proceed to slide 12 for highlights of our funnel of qualified manufacturing opportunities.
Our funnel grew over $200 million in the fiscal fourth quarter to finish at a record $3 3 billion.
Our industrial sector led the increase by expanding their funnel by an impressive $265 million.
Closed the fiscal fourth quarter at $938 million.
Three larger RF communication programs from an existing customer drove the significant increase.
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Your life Sciences sector held their funnel at a very healthy $1 7 billion.
Two larger manufacturing opportunities, including an ultrasound device and robotic assisted medical device, where the significant new program adds in the quarter.
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In addition to the exceptional wins in the fiscal fourth quarter, the aerospace and defense sector added $37 million to their funnel to exit fiscal 2021, with a robust funnel of $708 million.
New opportunities in the commercial and defense Subsectors, not only backfill the wins what fueled the foremost growth.
Next I would like to turn to operating performance on slide 13.
The highlight of the fiscal fourth quarter and the full fiscal year of 2021 for me is the team's operational performance in the midst of a global pandemic.
The team's ability to generate GAAP operating margin of 5% for the fiscal fourth quarter and five 2% for the full fiscal year is outstanding.
The performance a result of teamwork, our manufacturing engineering aftermarket services market sector supply chain and corporate teams collaborated and supported each other.
Each time, a new challenge presented itself the team rallied to mitigate the issue for our customers and our shareholders.
As we look to the fiscal first quarter the teamwork carries on.
We continue to make investments in new program ramps and facilities that will enable future growth. In addition, we continue to maintain additional resources to help mitigate component constraint challenges and the operator operational inefficiencies COVID-19 has created.
Even with the additional burdens the team is committed to working together to deliver strong operating results with operating margin in the range of four 6% to 5% for the fiscal first quarter.
A few final comments and typically highlight an example of dedication and outstanding performance of the plexus team each quarter.
This quarter, our customers have done it for me.
In addition to our recent letter of Commendation from one of our largest health care life Sciences customers regarding exceptional performance during the pandemic.
One of our largest industrial customers presented us with a supplier award for outstanding performance as well.
I will leave you with a few of the remarks that came with the award.
The customer noted that they would like to recognize plexus for outstanding performance responding to an unprecedented ramp during the global Covid crisis.
They also commented that we increased capacity by 160% amid continuous disruptions and labor material and equipment availability.
I believe the customer capture their current environment, very well and how our teams are responding.
I would like to thank the plexus team for not just their efforts each day, but for the results they are creating.
I'll now turn the call to Pat for an in depth review of our financial performance Pat.
Steven Good morning, everyone. Our fiscal fourth quarter results are summarized on slide 14.
Fourth quarter revenue of $843 million was sequentially higher by 4%, while gross margin of nine 4% was sequentially higher by 30 basis points.
Fiscal fourth quarter gross profit improved in all three of our regions compared to the fiscal third quarter better business mix cost management and labor efficiency led to the improvement.
Selling and administrative expense of $36 $6 million was favorable to our guidance primarily due to strong cost control efforts given the lower than expected revenue along with a reduction in incentive compensation expense.
As a percentage of revenue SG&A was four 3%, which was better than expected and sequentially improved by approximately 20 basis points.
Our GAAP operating margin of 5% was 50 basis points higher than last quarter, marking a return to an operating margin of 5% or better.
Included in the fiscal fourth quarter operating margin was approximately 80 basis points of stock based compensation expense.
With the fiscal fourth quarter result, we have now generated operating margin at or above 5% for five of the last six quarters.
We ended a challenging fiscal 2021 with the industry, leading GAAP operating margin of five 2%.
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Nonoperating expenses of $2 9 million or favorable to expectations due to foreign exchange gains and lower interest expense.
Diluted GAAP EPS of $1 16 was slightly below the midpoint of our guidance.
With sequential revenue growth of 4% fiscal fourth quarter diluted GAAP EPS improved 22%.
For the full year revenue was relatively flat compared to fiscal 2020, while GAAP diluted EPS improved an impressive 21%.
Turning now to our cash flow and balance sheet on slide 15.
For the fiscal fourth quarter, we were pleased with our cash flow results.
We delivered $11 million in cash from operations and spent $23 million on capital expenditures, resulting in fiscal fourth quarter cash usage of $12 million.
Our results favorable to our expectations.
For the fiscal year, we delivered $142 million in cash from operations and spent $57 million on capital expenditures generating free cash flow of $85 million. We are pleased to see all three of our regions generate positive free cash flow in fiscal 2021.
First in many years.
During the fiscal fourth quarter, we purchased approximately 331000 shares of our stock for $29 3 million at an average price of $88 39 per share.
At year end, we had $47 million remaining under our current $50 million authorization.
We expect to execute the repurchases on a consistent basis throughout fiscal 2022, while taking market conditions into consideration.
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We ended the year with a strong balance sheet cash totaled $271 million, while total debt was $253 million.
We had $55 million outstanding under our $350 million revolving credit facility and our gross debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of one was at an attractive level.
For the fiscal year, we delivered a return on invested capital of 15, 4%. This result generated an economic return of 730 basis points above our weighted average cost of capital, creating substantial shareholder value.
Strong operating performance, while maintaining consistent year over year average invested capital led to a 140 basis point improvement in ROIC compared to fiscal 2020.
Cash cycle at the end of the fiscal fourth quarter was 85 days consistent with our guidance and five days higher than our results in the fiscal third quarter.
Please turn to slide 16 for details on our cash cycle.
Sequentially inventory days increased by eight the increase in days was indicative of the challenging supply chain environment, our industry is facing.
<unk> to be in the range of 899, 3% at the midpoint of this guidance gross margin would be sequentially lower by 30 basis points, primarily due to lower leverage of our fixed costs.
With revenue anticipated to be consistent with the fiscal fourth quarter fixed costs are expected to increase as we invest in support of future growth.
For the fiscal first quarter, we expect SG&A expense in the range of 36.5% to $37.5 million, which is relatively consistent with fiscal fourth quarter at the midpoint of our revenue guidance anticipated SG&A would be four 4% of revenue slightly higher than the fourth quarter.
Fiscal first quarter GAAP operating margin is expected to be in the range of four 6% to 5%, which includes approximately 70 basis points stock based compensation expense.
At the midpoint of this guidance GAAP operating margin would be four 8% sequentially lower by 20 basis points.
During our annual planning process. This past August we revisited or long term GAAP operating margin target and decided to increase it from the previous range for 7% to 5% and establish a new target of 5.5%.
Considerations in determining the new target included our ability to leverage fixed costs given the demand outlook are improved business mix and permanent gains made in reducing transformation costs. During the past 18 months, while continuing to invest in the business to support future growth.
We expect to make sequential progress towards achieving this target as we move through fiscal 2022.
A few other notes for the fiscal first quarter depreciation and amortization expense is expected to be approximately $16 million slightly higher than the fiscal fourth quarter.
Non operating expenses are expected to be in the range of three $8 million to $4.2 million.
We are estimating and effective tax rate of 13% to 15% and diluted shares outstanding of approximately 28 7 million shares.
Our expectation for the balance sheet is that working capital investments will increase compared to the fiscal fourth quarter base.
Based on our revenue forecast, we expect this level of working capital will result in cash cycle days of 94% to 98 days.
At the midpoint of this guidance cash cycle would increase 11 days compared to the fiscal fourth quarter, primarily due to inventory requirements.
The constrained supply chain environment and extended lead times have required additional investments in inventory to satisfied customer demand.
We continue to work closely with our customers to secure deposits to minimize working capital investments.
We are also investing in working capital to support anticipated sequential growth as we move through fiscal 2022.
We're taking the necessary measures now in order to fulfill our customers demand, even if that results and added working capital investments.
For the fiscal first quarter, we expect free cash flow to be negative as we make needed investments in working capital and capital additions.
Capital spending for fiscal 2022 is expected to be in the range of $100 million to $120 million.
This includes approximately $50 million for our new Thailand facility, which is anticipated to open during our fiscal third quarter of 2022.
For the fiscal year, we anticipate free cash flow in the range of breakeven two of usage of cash in support of our investments.
With that Gail, let's now open the call for questions.
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So we put all your question perhaps.
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Your first question comes from the line of.
The theory Lane is open.
Hi, Good morning, I guess two questions from the first of all when we think about all the supply chain pressures, which like you pointed out has gotten worse hopefully some get better how do you how do you envision sort of.
Business changing for you and how you work with the customers over say the next 12 to 18 months. If we assume that these things are still an overhang.
Whether it's sports logistics et cetera can you sort of.
Describe how you do that in a way that helped returns cashflows to normal et cetera. Thanks.
Yeah. So.
Steve This is Todd all games get US started and then pass it over to either Steve or Pat if they want to add anything, but we have a lot of activity going on within the supply chain and on the customer front in light of the pressures that are there today and I liked the bulk of them into three different buckets, one being customer action.
<unk> the next being organizational actions in the third being process improvements or process changes and from a customer standpoint, we're working to get extended forecasts Patted mentioned deposits. We're also looking to get Preapprovals debatable to purchase components at perhaps elevated prices if we fight.
Mmhmm available in the market as well as expansion of approved manufacturers lists within the bills of materials of our customers. So a great deal of activity going on on that front from an organizational standpoint, we've not added a number of supply chain leadership positions within the company, we have a group, which we call supply chain operations, which takes the <unk>.
Lead in a lot of the Escalations.
Within our supply chain, we've increased that by 50%.
With an overall out of about 20% into our supply chain we've.
We've also added key account support for specific customers, where we have a significant number of challenges to really try to drive the supply chain through those challenges.
And then finally from a process standpoint, a lot of automation going on from a standpoint of part searches in purchasing and revising our expedite system and even taking.
An approach, which we call a war room situation, where we get a team together and they drive.
A great deal of intensity supply chain issues. So so a number of things going on on all fronts, they're having an impact but it takes it takes time for it all the ripple through the supply chain.
Great that covered.
It was really thorough.
And then just as a follow up to that just tied into the same issue is.
How do we get confident around sort of your inventory days.
Whether this is the worst there they're going to be like this quarter.
Yes, Steve I can take that.
I think as we move into our physical second quarter, we will see inventory dollars increase.
As we ramp for future demand now from a day's perspective, I think we can keep our days relatively consistent with the fiscal first quarter guide.
And then I think as we move through the back half of the year is when we can see day's coming down to below where we ended.
The year for fiscal 2021.
So I think that's the way right now it's projected to play out a lot of that is dependent on the supply chain and what develops over the next few quarters.
Great. That's that's really helpful. Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from the late enough and just sat there is something your line is open.
And.
I follow up first on the supply chain pressure and talk to you one of the three categories.
Combating that.
I should really think about that actually come out of this how sustainable add those actions then and they are going to be.
I think I'd be more beneficial to come out of these challenges.
Yes, I think they are sustainable improvements I think when you look at some of the process improvements that are in there they really get get to the every day.
Way to run the business and I think when you look at some of the structural changes that we made within our supply chain organization those will provide long lasting benefits for us.
Yeah, maybe just add a little bit onto the situation with the supply chain one way I think about as we were talking to customers that are looking for us to have inventory on hand versus just an order given some of the volatility they wanted to be risk the aspect of all of a sudden products disappearing and so we've been asked by customers and we have been bringing more.
Inventory on hand, and what would be normal.
So I think as we go out over time the.
That will go back in the supply chain from being on hand will be basically an order and then in terms of that the processes and the things that we're putting in order to really to understand where things are at in the supply chain.
The things that we're doing today to make sure that we have the inventory going into the next quarter to those tools and systems.
Corporate improvements remake will only improve the process as we get further down the path and go back to more of a normal supply chain environment.
Okay. Thank you and that in terms of that.
And that you are leaving and on the table that's being pushed out.
Can you quantify.
How much of that do you think this is going to be perishable if it's at all I mean.
Yeah, right now, it's largely nonperishable, but obviously, there's going to be a finite timeline on that so it really I think it's going to depend on when the supply chain at least starts to stabilize if not improve so we certainly saw situation in this past quarter of.
Of the supply chain actually degrading as opposed to even stabilizing so.
So that would be the situation as we're looking at it.
Okay. Thank you and what do you say in terms of.
Sort of labor and raw material inflation, you can pass on some of the.
Cost increases to our customers how does it work with labor.
Hi Ya.
Come back in the labor constraints.
You are correct on the material side of the equation those can be passed on the customers in terms of labor.
Some were able to work with our customers on others, not and I'd say right now the situation is a bit that we're carrying extra cost because.
If the materials free.
Then we believe we can go build it so we don't want labour to be the next constraints. So.
We are discussing that with customers in terms of how much we're going to carry and in some cases, they are covering additional fixed costs.
For us the basically maintain that labor and then what we're also being a partner and carrying a little bit extra ourselves.
Okay. Thank you and then just one last one to supply chain consequence is there any.
Business segments way.
March madness and the other is it.
No I mean, it's pretty much across the board Anya I mean, we're seeing in all three of our market sectors the constraints.
Okay, and I left off from him jumping back into line.
Your next question comes from the line of my Chevy nearly lane is open.
Yes, thanks, and good morning, everyone.
Wanted to ask again regarding the supply constraints situation relative to your forward guidance. I think you were you're looking at sequential growth in each of their quarters in FY 22. So I guess the question is how much confidence or visibility do you have in security procuring those compare.
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Is that basically being set aside for Q2, two three et cetera.
Yeah. So I'll start here, Matt and then maybe pass it along to Steve, but when we look at.
At 22, and what the demand environment is versus a supply environment. I mean, obviously, it's two very very opposing forces that that we're looking at right now and there is.
I would say it.
It's difficult to answer with certainty how 22 is going to play out because when we look at the demand environment or demand would support well over 20% growth.
Now supply, obviously limits the ability to fulfill that demand, but we're certainly pushing towards double digit growth and we believe that's achievable should the supply chain stabilize and not degrade further from where it's at so but even with with the challenge supply chain.
We believe that we have sufficient materials being pipeline and sufficient visibility to the demand to drive this sequential improvements in revenue and.
And operating margins throughout the fiscal year.
And if I, just maybe add onto that some of the degradation. We saw on supply chain was some of the larger stomach.
Some a conductor manufacturers basically doing a reset of their commits and as I saw the situation and continue to get more and more challenging some of them just took a breath stepped back and realign their commit schedule and we saw.
Frank we saw a few D commits come through.
We're expecting on now we anticipate and believe that with those major suppliers they've done this once and they have gotten realigned and so I think the.
Our expectation is that the supply commits that we do get will be more stable going forward.
As part of it as well.
Got it and is there any concern that there may be an imbalance of inventory.
Certainly some suppliers have been able to add capacity and meat.
Order is where others orange so at some point.
Is it going to be sort of a reshuffling of your inventory or do you want to just keep them on hand for the future.
I don't know that we'll see a ratio holder inventory. It goes back to when is it gonna get utilized and I think the dynamic you talk about is one that we're seeing so we do some things of industrial automation, where our orders.
We're actually starting to procure the materials and it's starting to get line of sight, but the steel associated with going into the into the factor into the warehouse. There's some shortages unsteel. So although we may be able to produce the automated.
Automation products are and customer may not be able to actually do the install yet and so to your point I think as supply chain things starting to clear out over the next year or so here, we are going to see some some things like that happen where.
Other factors may come into play in terms of what's impacting deliveries in the shipments but from our standpoint, it's going to be more of an improvement I mean, there's going to be things.
Things going backwards.
Okay and just lastly are are you seeing any any Ah labor shortages within your North America operations and some of your factories, but we're hearing that from some some other companies.
I'd say recruiting has gotten more challenging and we have to be more creative to this point it hasn't significantly impacted us on our ability to produce so we're very mindful of it it is a tighter and tighter environment, but so far we've been able to.
Hire the resources we need.
Okay, alright, great. Thanks, so much.
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Alright, well, thank you Gail and I'd certainly like to thank everybody, who joined our call today as always we appreciate your support and we appreciate your interest in flex us have a good day.
This concludes today's country and skull. Thank you for participating you may now disconnect.
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