Q2 2022 Columbus McKinnon Corp Earnings Call
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Thanks, Alex and good morning, everyone and thank you for joining US here today I have with me, David Wilson, our President and CEO and Greg rest with our Chief Financial Officer I Hope you have a copy of the second quarter fiscal 2022, the financial results, which we released this morning before the market and if not you can access the release as well as the slides that will it.
Company, our conversation today at our website Columbus Mckinnon Dot com.
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<unk> Commission. These documents can be found on our website or at SEC Gov. During today's call. We will also discuss some non-GAAP financial measures. We believe these will be useful in evaluating our performance you should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in gap.
We've provided a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures with comparable GAAP measures in the tables in today's release and the slides for your information so with that if you will turn to slide three I will turn it over to David to begin David.
Thank you Deb and good morning, everyone. We delivered strong results in the quarter, even as we navigated the challenges the world is facing with global supply constraints, despite leaving approximately $15 million of planned Q2 shipments behind due to shortages in the supply chain, we delivered sales growth of 42% year over year.
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That the growth was driven by robust demand across all of our targeted markets.
Margins also expanded nicely.
In fact, we achieved new records for both GAAP and adjusted gross margin of $36, three and 36, 7% respectively improve.
Improved margin in the quarter reflected the benefits of our 80 20 process operational restructuring and an improved product portfolio, including the addition of dorner.
The Columbus Mckinnon business system, or see MBS provides the processes and tools to deliver improved profitability as we execute on our blueprint for growth two point out strategy.
We believe our results continue to demonstrate the evolution of Columbus Mckinnon into a high value intelligent motion enterprise.
Through the core growth framework of our strategy, we are focused on strengthening and growing and expanding our core as we establish combined offerings innovate with new products expand channels and deepen our presence in a more attractive set of targeted markets.
One example of this is the combination of our legacy automation solutions with our conveying solutions enhancing our value proposition for customers and attractive markets.
This is a nice example of our strategy at work.
Earlier this year, we re imagine Columbus, Mckinnon and acquired Dorner.
Then with precision conveying solutions as a new growth platform, we began to focus on growth that could be created through the combination of our competencies and increased product innovation.
We are gaining early traction and the customers that are a part of this convey our automation pilot program are excited to be working with us.
[noise] Dorner continues to deliver well while performance in the quarter was also impacted by supply chain constraints and the timing of inflation and pricing impacts. We are excited about the opportunities. This business continues to generate.
In fact orders for our conveyor solutions were a very healthy $34 $7 million in the quarter.
This contributed to our record backlog of $256 million at the end of September.
On slide four I'd like to talk through how we are evolving Columbus Mckinnon.
We are rethinking and bringing further clarity to how we look at key elements of our portfolio looking at the business through this new lens highlights that our automation and linear motion products made up 27% of our portfolio.
This is important because these product lines tend to grow at mid to single high digit mid.
Mid to high single digit rates and serve less cyclical markets now.
Now with the addition of our precision conveying platform, which is growing in the double digits, we have nearly 40% of our total revenue serving highly attractive growth markets.
Today, Columbus Mckinnon has a much better mix of business and a higher growth profile than what we had just one year ago.
And as you might imagine we're engaged in with an active and growing pipeline of attractive M&A prospects and where we expect to further transform our portfolio mix to serve higher growth more secular really driven end markets. We are focused on building our higher value Columbus Mckinnon.
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Turning to slide five I'm happy to share that we will soon be announcing our most recent addition to our series a and telling motion product offerings.
Our organic growth strategy is focused on driving innovation and growth through new product development here.
Here, we have applied our automation capabilities to our linear actuator solutions.
We have integrated our custom controls and drives directly into our actuator offering.
This provides improved fit form function and performance for a variety of variable lifting applications that require precision movement.
In addition to advanced control and positioning feedback integrated solution reduces installation costs and streamlines the footprint of this equipment.
We're excited to be accelerating our new product development and launch processes for automated intelligent motion offerings that are targeting attractive growth opportunities.
With that let me turn it to Greg to review the financials in more detail Greg. Thank you David Good morning, everyone on slide six net sales in the second quarter were $223 6 million up 41, 7% from the prior year period, which was heavily impacted by the pandemic, while we saw revenue improve almost five.
Sequentially like other industrial companies, we continue to experience supply chain challenges.
As David mentioned earlier, we estimate that revenue in the quarter was impacted by approximately $15 million because of the supply chain constraints, putting us slightly below the lower end of our guidance for the quarter.
This was also the second quarter that the Dorner acquisition is included in our results Dorner delivered almost $34 million of revenue in the quarter.
Supply chain constraints had about a $3 million impact the dorner sales this quarter.
Looking at our sales bridge sales volume was a major driver of growth with volume up $26 million or 16, 7%.
We also realized positive pricing as we saw year over year pricing improved by two 5%.
In addition to our typical price increases implemented at the start of our fiscal year. We also raised prices at the end of June and again in August our pricing actions resulted in $4 million of year over year price up from the $2 million of year over year price, we reported last quarter.
Foreign currency was a tailwind and contributed $1 9 million or one 2% of sales.
Let me provide a little color on sales by region for the second quarter, we had significant strength in the U S with sales volumes up nearly 20%. We also improved pricing two 4% up 150 basis points from the first quarter levels.
Outside of the U S sales volume was up approximately 13% as volume strengthened and all regions, increasing 34% in Latin America, 23% in Canada, and a 11% in both EMEA and APAC.
We also improved pricing internationally by two 7%.
This was up over first quarter levels by 70 basis points.
The measurable contribution of pricing over the trailing first quarter demonstrates how quickly our pricing actions can mitigate inflationary pressures.
With continued raw material inflation globally, we are taking more pricing actions in the fiscal third quarter, We recently announced additional price increases for dorner and an additional surcharge in Europe, which are both effective this quarter.
With the actions we have taken we expect to stay out in front of current inflationary pressures.
On slide seven gross margin expanded to a record 36, 3% as a result of the many actions we have taken over the last few years to strengthen our earnings power, including the 80 20 process facility rationalizations and improvements in our product portfolio.
We achieved a record adjusted gross margin of 36, 7% as well up 40 basis points from over the trailing first quarter.
Overall, dorner was 50 basis points accrete up to our adjusted gross margin this quarter.
In addition to the impact of Dorner adjusted gross margins reflected operating leverage from higher sales volumes and favorable year over year productivity in our factories with the addition of daughter margins expanded to pre COVID-19 levels, even as our legacy operations are not yet back to pre COVID-19 volumes.
Let me point out a few highlights on our gross profit bridge for the quarter.
Second quarter gross profit increased $25 1 million compared with the prior year and was driven by several factors. The major contributors were first dorner, which provided $13 3 million of gross profit.
Second was the strong sales volume, we just discussed which added $8 2 million to gross profit and.
And third was a $5 5 million contribution to gross profit from year over year productivity increases even in the face of supply chain challenges. It is important to note that our pricing strategy has more than offset raw material inflation.
In addition, we incurred 900000 of business realignment costs in the quarter as we continue to find ways to improve our cost structure and drive profitability.
As shown on slide eight our SG&A costs were $51 2 million in the quarter or 22, 9% of sales.
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Excluding these one time costs, our SG&A costs would have been $53 million or 22, 5% of sales.
For the fiscal third quarter, we are increasing our estimate for our SG&A expense to approximately $53 million. This.
This includes additional investments in strategic growth initiatives as well as higher stock compensation costs related to our rising stock price and higher annual incentive plan costs.
Turning to slide nine adjusted operating income was $25 5 million adjusted operating margin was 11, 4% of sales up 250 basis points from the prior year.
This margin expansion is driven by the operating leverage in the business and strategic pricing.
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As you can see on slide 10, we recorded GAAP earnings per diluted share for the quarter of 53.
Adjusted earnings per diluted share were <unk> 74.
Which were up substantially from 44 per share in the prior year and up five per share sequentially.
I want to reiterate that starting last quarter and going forward, we are adding back amortization expense on a tax effected basis to our adjusted earnings per diluted share calculation.
In Q2 this added <unk> 17 to adjusted earnings per diluted share.
All periods on this chart have been restated for the for this change we feel that this is a better indicator of the true cash earnings performance of the company as we intend to be programmatic with our M&A strategy.
With the new financing we completed in May we expect interest expense of approximately $4 5 million in the third quarter and our diluted shares outstanding are anticipated averaged $29 2 million shares in the third quarter as well.
Our tax rate on a GAAP basis is expected to be in a range of 21% to 23%.
And we will continue to use 22% as our tax rate for our non-GAAP adjusted earnings per share.
On slide 11, our adjusted EBITDA margin continues to increase and was 14, 4% on a trailing 12 month basis.
In the second quarter, our adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 16, 1%.
Dorner was accretive to our adjusted EBITDA margin by 100 basis points.
Our return on invested capital also continues to improve and was seven 9% on a trailing 12 month basis, we continue to target a 19% EBITDA margin and expect our ROIC to be double digits in fiscal 'twenty three excluding the impact of future acquisitions.
Moving to slide 12, we generated $22 million of cash in the second quarter and year to date, we have generated $11 2 million.
On a year to date basis, we incurred $13 5 million of cash outflows related to acquisition deal costs as.
As sales have increased we have also increased our working capital investment by approximately $31 million, which includes additional investments in inventory to meet rising demand.
Our working capital as a percent of sales was 14, 4%, which was in line with what we were expecting.
Capex was $3 1 million in the quarter, we expect capex of $18 million to $22 million for the full year.
Turning to slide 13, we refinance the capital structure post Dorner acquisition, which included an equity offering and a new term loan b.
The new $450 million term loan B carries an interest rate of LIBOR, plus 275% with a 50 basis point LIBOR floor.
This gives us a low cost flexible capital structure that will serve us well for the coming years.
As of September 30 on a pro forma basis, which includes dorner September LTM adjusted EBITDA, but excludes expected cost synergies. Our net leverage ratio was 264 times, we are making great progress towards our targeted leverage ratio of two times, which we expect to easily achieve within fiscal.
23, barring any additional acquisitions finally, our liquidity, which includes our cash on hand, and revolver availability remained strong and was approximately $188 million at the end of September.
Please advance to slide 14, and I'll turn it back over to David.
Thanks, Greg Slide 14 shows the continued strength of demand as our markets recover the success of our efforts to grow our market share and the impact of the Dorner acquisition.
Excluding the benefit of FX and the Dorner acquisition orders for our short cycle business were up 19% over last year and.
And project business orders were up nearly 14%.
Our book to Bill ratio was again nicely greater than one and helped to drive our record backlog.
Both short cycle and project backlog has grown.
We have $145 million in backlog that are scheduled to ship in the third quarter.
Through the first three weeks of October our order rates are up 3% versus Q2's rates and up 9% sequentially versus september's rates.
The pipeline of opportunities we are pursuing remains quite robust.
Please turn to slide 15, and I'll provide an update on our near term expectations.
We expect revenue to be approximately $215 million for our third fiscal quarter ending December 31.
This level of activity takes into account our typical seasonality, which includes three fewer production and shipping days than our second quarter and the impact of the year end holidays. We also assume that supply chain constraints continue at levels similar to Q2.
Regarding the supply chain. It has been a daily drill a triage expediting and adjustments at all of our operational sites we.
We remain in constant communication with our key suppliers and our remaining agile while working to stay ahead of demand where possible.
There has been no shortage of surprises however, as our suppliers are dealing with disruption as well.
On a positive note, we are improving sales inventory and operations planning or SIOP processes and have improved both demand visibility and secured capacity within the supply chain.
We are actively working with all suppliers to prioritize needs and are establishing qualified alternatives where appropriate.
As mentioned earlier, we are seeing strong demand across all of our markets.
Demand has been growing in the aerospace market with production rates for the Boeing 737, Max increasing as well as in the business jet industry, given the order strength there.
Automotive remains strong with electric vehicles, driving most of that expansion.
Globally, the energy and metals processing markets are also quite robust.
E. Commerce is also growing rapidly this is not only being driven by increased demand from our flagship customer but also from the addition of new customers. This industry is continuously looking for ways to automate and drive efficiencies, we believe our engineering expertise combined with our responsiveness.
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In addition, we have seen increasing demand for our sanitary line of products in the food and beverage space as manufacturers are expanding their production capacity to meet increasing demand life.
Life Sciences is also growing as the pharmaceutical marketplace is building out capabilities for the direct delivery of prescriptions.
We are investing in new product development and launched our new Aqua proof line of sanitary conveyors to serve these markets in September.
These advanced conveyor solutions, not only bring new technology to the market. They were designed to be environmentally friendly and sustainable reducing the amount of water and chemicals required to clean and maintain our customers hygienic work environments.
Also as you would expect we continue to advance our blueprint for growth two point, our strategy and our longer term performance objectives that will drive continued growth and a better margin profile for Columbus Mckinnon.
Important to success in this area.
Is our culture and the engagement of our global employees with this in mind. We spent the last year working with hundreds of associates from around the world to clarify Columbus Mckinnon purpose as an organization.
As a collection of acquired companies. It was important that we uncovered or why.
Our purpose that would unite the company around a single reason for existence, a purpose that employees and customers could emotionally connect with and one that would build a sense of loyalty with the company.
For nearly 150 years, Columbus Mckinnon products have been used to lift position and secure materials over the last few years, we've added capabilities that enable intelligent motion and integrate control and automation technologies into our offerings are.
Our customers benefit from the safety productivity and uptime improvements these offerings enable and the Interconnectivity control and diagnostic information that our intelligent motion solutions provide.
Ultimately the products produced by processes that utilize Columbus Mckinnon technologies advanced the world.
In the end users of these products benefit significantly.
This connection led our team to define and align around Columbus Mckinnon purpose statement as follows.
Together, we create intelligent motion solutions that move the world forward and improve lives.
Examples of our purpose and motion.
Include the use of our specialty conveyors to precisely transport vials of blood and deliver efficient and accurate results within Abbott's laboratory test equipment.
And the use of our actuators to service Nasa's space Shuttle orbiter, and the use of our entertainment hoists and rigging equipment to support the traveling crane system at the National Aquatic center throughout the Summer Olympics.
Our solutions make a true difference in our US day after day in critical applications that move the world forward and improve lives.
These are exciting times for Columbus, Mckinnon and the customers. We serve we are thrilled about the future we are creating Alec.
Alex Let's open the line for questions now.
Thank you.
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Our first question comes from the line of Matt Summerville with D. A Davidson. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning. This is will on for Matt.
Good morning.
I had a question for you about pricing on that gross profit bridge.
Was it your expectation going into the quarter that pricing would exceed cost inflation by that amount or did that come ahead of your expectation.
No.
This is Greg rush towards so we have we did anticipate that that would happen we have been pretty consistent in my 10 years that thats always been the case, we have a lot of pricing power in the business.
And as we monitor inflation, we try to stay out in front of it so our margins were.
We're able to maintain margins and perhaps even grow margins.
Understood.
And then sticking sticking to the bridge I noticed that the benefits you.
Received from productivity were more or less doubled than what they were in your fiscal first quarter. I was wondering if you had any color as to what drove that increase and whether or not that kind of movement is sustainable.
In the coming quarters.
Yes, so a large driver of the productivity is related to the incremental.
Volumes that we're producing we're comparing it to the second quarter, a year ago, which was a COVID-19 quarter. It wasn't the worst COVID-19 quarter that was the June quarter, but for sure, but hats off to our operations team for all the good work. They are doing despite all of the constant changes that are going on with supply chain challenges that David talked about.
So it's.
It's our operational excellence programs.
We're benefiting from the plant consolidations that we've done over the last several years and we anticipate that going forward when volumes do return to pre COVID-19 levels in our legacy business. We should continue to see a ramp in gross margins.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from John Ken Wang Cheng with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, John Yes, Hi, good morning, its actually Pete Lukas for Jon This morning.
Just had a question is the 50 $53 million or SG&A run rate something that we should know.
We should normalize going into 2022, where is that including some one time items that should step back down.
There are some one time items in there that should step down, but it's going to be in that ZIP code and that 50 to $51 52 neighborhoods.
There can be variability based on like for instance, this quarter our stock compensation costs get.
Increased because of the rising stock price in Q2 relative to where we were at June 30, So we hope to drive that further which will result in incremental.
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And the way to think about it as legacy Columbus Mckinnon was typically a $45 million.
Per quarter run rate Dorner is about a $7 million run rate, we have made improvements in our SG&A costs, but we're also investing more in the business for new product development and some other growth initiatives a lot of our digital initiatives as well would be in that category.
Great helpful. Thanks, and then in terms of how orders are trending through October I, just want to make sure I heard you was that did you say up 3% versus Q2, yes up 3% versus Q2 and up 9% sequentially versus September and if I were.
To look at that short cycle project in Dorner short cycle business is up 2% sequentially versus September project business is up 10% versus September and our dorner business is up 33% versus September and obviously projects and the dorner business has a level of lumpiness in there.
And do you think thats more a function of lead times, increasing or are you continuing to see strong organic demand no.
I'd say its the latter we're continuing to see strong organic demand.
Great very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks Pete.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Mcginn with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, Mike Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning, everybody good quarter.
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My question was on gross margin I think you mentioned dorner contributed.
$13 million and change in the gross profit.
Doing some back of the envelope math that puts them almost close to a 40% gross margin rate, which is higher than historically, where that business is run.
It.
Is this a function of them, having more elasticity and then your pricing for your legacy businesses kind of rolls into the back half of this year any any color on the cadence of gross margin, maybe dorner versus legacy yeah. So hey, Mike It's Greg So dorner is historically, 40% to 45% gross.
Margins, it's going to depend on the mix of engineered to order versus build to order business margins on the build to order tend to be higher.
In general I would say that there are probably 500 basis points north of legacy Columbus Mckinnon today, but clearly.
We're continuing to be on the legacy side impacted by lower volumes.
And we do expect that to drive our gross margins over time to closer to that 40% level, absolutely and I would just add Mike that dorner also like the rest of our business.
Facing challenges as it relates to inflationary pressures and price increases.
So on in the aggregate, we outpaced our pricing to inflation ratio. If you will but if you think about this on a line by line basis Dorner was more negatively impacted in the period by the timing of inflation versus pricing impacts and so that had an impact on their results in this period and we expect to catch up on those as we go.
And one other point to make Mike is that we don't reprice, our backlog and so to the extent.
We've got a backlog from pre price increase periods, we're not benefiting from price. So incrementally there should be more pricing coming through in the December quarter, just given the fact that our backlog is at record levels and doesn't reflect all of the latest prices price increases in there.
Got it.
And then.
Just trying to square my model here.
Three less selling days.
Our SG&A trending towards 53.
Is the three less selling days sequentially or year over year, because I'm presuming you have the same amount of payroll days and that would have some sort of SG&A leverage effect.
So any comment on the payroll days and how thats impacting your SG&A, yes. So so we do on page eight of our release, we give you the shipping days per quarter in the U S and in Q3. It was one or it's going to be 61. In Q2 was 64. So that's about a five.
5% decline and last year was the same number 61 versus <unk> 61, now granted with outside of the U S. We do run into for instance, in Europe, which is our next biggest market.
We do have longer holiday periods.
That.
Results in less production days and while we will maintain warehouse personnel to ship product I mean, theres, just less cost absorption thats going on in the quarter. So so one important point to note is that if you look over the last three years that our gross margins they typically drop about.
With a 100 basis points sequentially because of the impact of the shipping days.
And all I'm going to sneak one more in here.
With Brent at $85 and Alcoa.
Kind of making some draconian statements about.
Magnesium supply and impacts of aluminum have you seen any kind of uptick in some of your legacy less sexy businesses.
And give me confidence heading into calendar 'twenty two 'twenty three here.
We have in fact.
Energy markets more broadly oil and gas as well we've seen increases in project demand globally.
And we secured a few nice orders in the second quarter, but we're seeing our front log develop further and obviously the metals markets are also responding in the same way. So we're seeing nice demand increase across the markets that we serve and we believe that that is having an impact.
Alright, I appreciate the time.
You bet. Thanks, Mike.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Howe with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, David Good morning, Greg.
Good morning.
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And looking at how Columbus Mckinnon has evolved over time.
And now with this conveying solutions platform.
If we look kind of from a top down basis, how do you anticipate this evolving.
With the growth trends that you see in each section of the pie.
Perhaps what I'm getting at is how do you see a steady states mix of the business.
From a general perspective looking further out.
Right right. Good question Christian it's obviously, a heavy focus of ours as we are strategically working to transition the business into a higher value enterprise and we do see growth.
Across all of the segments of our business and anticipate we will grow our core lifting platform as we head out over our five year strategic window.
And we think we can grow it frankly materially, but we think in the total from a percentage perspective lifting as a percentages of total business reduces and as we grow the business beyond.
This year into next and through our 2027 strategic planning process, we see the business evolving to one that has a majority contribution from those elements of the business that are serving higher growth.
Higher value areas and so we think we become less cyclical and more secular Lee oriented and we have a more attractive mix of business in the portfolio as we go forward and clearly that has an impact on our ability to grow margins and expand beyond the.
The EBITDA targets that we've established for the business.
Okay.
And my next question.
It's a conversation on every call with the supply chain and logistical challenges that.
Continue to persist in this environment.
Yeah.
Can you comment on.
How you place this challenge into context, some companies have reported that perhaps by the summer of calendar 2022.
See some improvements while others have placed a more conservative outlook on the supply chain challenges, how do you anticipate the duration.
Right, Yes, I would say that we anticipate that this is a problem that will continue into fiscal 'twenty two calendar 'twenty two I should say.
We certainly have anticipated that it continues through this Q3 period.
And we anticipate that its not something thats going away as we exit Q3 and will continue into calendar 'twenty two.
And I don't have a crystal ball on how that will play out, but clearly we're focusing on advancing our business advancing our strategy.
And controlling what we can control so we are executing our playbook.
We're improving the business, we're improving our sales inventory operations planning processes, we're getting increased secured capacity with our key vendors.
Proving the connectivity there in identifying appropriate alternatives, where possible and we think we're positioning the business well, despite what will likely be persisting set of challenges in that environment.
Okay, Great and my last question is on the growing M&A pipeline, if I could ask this quickly.
Can you comment on the evolution of this pipeline what size of businesses are you seeing what type of ownership structure.
Are some of these family owned businesses.
I would assume that capital allocation will continue to be prudent and strategically placed.
How should we think about.
These different opportunities in the pipeline right I would say first that.
Youre, absolutely right capital allocation will be responsible and prudent disciplined and will continue to execute thoughtfully. There. The pipeline has expanded as we pursued the expansion of our business into more attractive micro segments as we define them in previous conversations including specialty can Vance.
We were successful in acquiring the dorner business.
That increased our aperture for opportunities and clearly that business as we've talked about previously plays in a fragmented landscape and that fragmented landscape is very attractive there are about $1 billion $5 worth of served addressable market in about a $4 billion total Tam globally.
And we see a nice pipeline of opportunities to continue to develop.
In addition to our linear motion products and automation products in the portfolio and so that provides us with a pretty broad runway and a lot of opportunity that ranges. If you will in terms of ownership structure from privately held independent <unk>.
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You can build relationships with over time and have a more exclusive negotiation in terms of a potential transaction.
Two companies that are more mature.
And have a more of a private equity or public company ownership structure that might be more transactional.
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And so we we have good relationships that we're establishing with the participants in those markets, we're continuing to stay close to.
Those relationships into the market to learn more.
And I would say that from a sizing standpoint, we're looking at companies that would be in that say 50 to 200 or so million in total revenue value.
And we would be.
Certainly open to transactions that might be slightly smaller than that are slightly larger than that depending on what they would bring and how well they fit with our strategy.
Thanks, David.
You're welcome Thanks, Chris.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Dave for Johnny with Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you, Steve Farris, usually to get the last name wrong.
Close enough.
I did want to follow up on the supply chain issues did I hear David did you quantify the impact on timing of deliveries.
In the quarter in terms of supply chain issues.
Yes, $15 million worth of impact in the quarter for us Steve.
That was product that we had been committed to receive materials that we had included in what we would ship and that was ready to go had we received the materials that we're anticipating that's right.
Okay.
So when I think about how you provide guidance for sales.
How do you incorporate those supply chain challenges in to that number which I imagine is very.
Very difficult.
Yes, we have anticipated that the challenges persist throughout Q3 at a level that's similar to the level. We've seen in Q2 and so we're working very hard obviously to improve on that.
But we are anticipating that the challenges will persist at levels similar to what we saw in Q2.
And then the other question, which hasn't come up a lot on this call which is on the labor front given the growth Dorner and I think you noted the.
The huge growth you saw even in October how youre, keeping up on the labor and capacity front, particularly in the case that dorner.
Yes, we've made progress Steve throughout Q2, and our recruiting efforts. Our team has done a really nice job of getting creative and creating opportunities for people to join the firm that have added value.
Unfortunately had turnover as well as I think most companies have seen as people have been moving.
And the net effect to us is that at the end of the quarter, We had 79 open positions.
And the factory environment and so we're obviously continuing our work to fill those and obviously flexing and working overtime to to compensate.
That's the current status and I would say, Steve that Thats, probably a lesser issue then the supply chain right now.
Okay.
And can.
Do you think is holding you back on the revenue side.
It's purely the supply chain that may abuse.
Causing some.
Yes, I mean, I guess it would be naive to say that its not holding us back because there is a potential impact there, but I think.
You can flex there a lot more.
Capably given that we're not working at full capacity in all of our factories with three shifts.
Running perpetually and so we're able to work some overtime and work.
In creative ways to compensate for those shortages.
But I think that when we get to a point, where the supply chain is flowing better that needs to be resolved because then that will become.
A gating item for us and one other piece of color on the labor.
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By and large.
Right.
Thanks, David Thanks, Greg I appreciate the time you bet. Thank you Steve.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Greg Palm with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, Greg Good morning, Hey, good morning, Thanks for taking the questions here I guess, just kind of circling back a little bit on pricing and I want to tie that into maybe the competitive environment, a little bit but are you seeing similar actions from most of your competitors and just kind of curious how you view your competitive position in overall.
From sort of a supply chain procurement standpoint.
Anything to note there.
I think our competitors have remained disciplined we've been focused on what we need to do and we've been moving rapidly to do that I think we've been leaders as it relates to that.
And pricing increase price increases, but I think we have as Greg indicated earlier level of pricing power.
Yes.
We haven't seen a lack of discipline in the channel as it relates to our competitive landscape.
Got it makes sense and then.
Just one one quick follow up on the December quarter guidance and.
My assumption is with orders trending up nicely sequentially and I'm not sure. If that's your sense that that will continue for the entirety of the quarter.
The lower sequential guide just a byproduct of just the continuation in supply chain and then the lower shipping days or anything else, we should be aware of there.
No that's really it in a nutshell, we have strong demand we have a record level of backlog were executing as well as we possibly can in this environment.
Using self help methods to improve further but we're in a position where it's simply that capacity constrained.
The limiting effect of the supply chain is.
The gating item.
Yep understood alright ill leave it there thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question is a follow up from Matt Summerville with D. A Davidson. Please proceed with your question.
Okay.
Hi, Thanks for taking.
Thanks for taking my follow up this is will again.
Yes.
David Forgive me if I missed it in your prepared remarks talking about the end market mix, but I was wondering.
What youre seeing in your entertainment markets, because I know last quarter. It was.
Pretty definitively the laggard.
I was just wondering how that was progressing.
It's been relatively stable, it's obviously impacted by the Delta variant, increasing and its infection rates throughout the second quarter and so what we saw is an.
An increasing rate of demand that got us to maybe 50% of pre COVID-19 demand and as we entered the second quarter and then kind of stabilize there given the fact that.
Theyre became more questions around venue indoor venue availability for entertainment activity and so.
It's still a very bullish outlook in terms of activity.
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Good.
Discussions that are underway relative to that market, but just in terms of absolute realized demand I would say that it was relatively stable at a rate that's pretty diminished compared to pre pandemic levels.
Got it thank you.
And just to emphasize that's a business that at its peak was about 3% of our total sales level.
So, although an exciting and a nice opportunity for us it's not a material piece of the overall business.
And.
Something that we think will come back as the markets are recovering even further.
Understood great.
Great.
Thank you will.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to David Wilson for closing remarks.
Great. Thank you Alex.
I want to thank all of our global associates for the great work that they're doing to execute well in this dynamic environment.
We're seeing strong demand across our markets and are focused on improving our business and controlling what we can control.
We're executing our playbook, while actively addressing inflation and supply chain challenges.
We're advancing our two point strategy and enterprise transformation initiatives to create a high value intelligent motion industrial technology company.
Thanks to everybody for their attention and I Hope you all have a great day.
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