Q4 2021 Tetra Tech Inc Earnings Call

November 18, 2021

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This call is being recorded at the request of Tetra Tech and this broadcast is the copyrighted property of Tetra Tech. Any rebroadcast of this information in whole or part without the prior written permission of Tetra Tech is prohibited. With us today from management are Dan Batrack, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Steve Burdick, Chief Financial Officer. They will provide a brief overview of the results and we'll open up the call for questions. I'd like to direct your attention to the Safe Harbor statement in today's presentation.

With us today from management are Dan Backtrack, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer, and Steve Burdick, Chief Financial Officer.

They will provide a brief overview of the results and we'll open up the call for questions.

I'd like to direct your attention to the Safe Harbor statement in today's presentation.

Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements about future growth and financial expectations. Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward-looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including the risks described in Tetra Tech's periodic reports filed with the SEC. Except as required by law, Tetra Tech takes no obligation to update as far as looking statements. In addition, since management will be presenting some non-GAAP financial measures as references, the appropriate GAAP financial reconciliations are posted in the investors' section of Tetra Tech's website.

Asian to update as far as looking statements. In addition, since management will be presenting some non-GAAP financial measures as references the appropriate GAAP financial reconciliations are posted in the investors section of Tetra Tech's website.

At this time, I'd like to inform you that all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the request of the company, we will open up the conference for questions and answers after the presentation. With that, I would like to turn the call over to DanBatrack. Please go ahead, Mr. Batrack.

Thank you very much, Laura, and good morning, and welcome to our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2021 earnings conference call. We had an excellent fourth quarter, completing an exceptionally strong 2021 fiscal year. And as we enter fiscal year 2022, we've never been in better alignment with our clients' priorities than we are today. Globally and here in the United States, the priorities of water, environment, sustainable infrastructure and renewable energy are creating new projects and additional funding commitments from our clients. Climate change is driving our communities to invest in resiliency and governments to make longer-term commitments for the reduction of carbon emissions. In areas impacted by climate change, we're seeing increased emphasis on that adaptation. While we also are supporting those affected by unprecedented disasters.

We had an excellent fourth quarter, completing an exceptionally strong 2021 fiscal year.

And as we enter fiscal year 2022, we've never been in better alignment with our clients' priorities than we are today.

Globally and here into the United States, the priorities of water environment, and sustainable infrastructure and renewable energy are creating new projects and additional funding commitments from our clients.

Climate change is driving our communities to invest in resiliency and governments to make longer term commitments for the reduction of carbon emissions.

In areas impacted by climate change, we're seeing increased emphasis on that adaptation. While we also are supporting those affected by unprecedented disasters.

These global and local trends are directly aligned with our leading with science approach and that resulted in strong growth across all of our client sectors and generated new orders that resulted in an all-time high backlog for us. As shown on the webcast, if you're following along, are the results of our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2021. We hit all-time highs across the board. With full-year revenue of $3.21 billion and operating income of $275 million up 13% from last year. We delivered a $3.79 in adjusted EPS up 16% from last year and $4.26 of earnings per share on a GAAP basis, which is up 35% from last year.

As shown on the webcast if you're following along are the results of our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2021.

We hit all time highs across the board.

With full year revenue of $3 to $1 billion and operating income of $275 million up 13% from last year.

We delivered a $3.79 and adjusted EPS up 16% from last year and $4.26 of earnings per share on a GAAP basis, which is up 35% from last year.

And we also generated $304 million in cash or more than $5.50 of cash per share in fiscal year 2021. The strong performance of our company and across our global operations is a demonstration of the strength of our business and the capability of our 21,000 associates, who are technically differentiated, highly client-focused and fiscally disciplined.

The strong performance of our company and across our global operations as a demonstration of the strength of our business and the capability of our 21000 associates, who are technically differentiated highly client focused and fiscally disciplined.

I'll now begin with an overview of our performance and customers followed by Steve Burdick, our Chief Financial Officer, who will provide more detailed review of our financials and capital allocation. I'll then address our customer outlook in our earnings guidance for fiscal year 2022. We had a strong fourth-quarter ending the year with record net revenue, operating income and earnings per share. Our net revenue increased 20% year over year to $709 million for the quarter.

We had a strong fourth quarter ending the year with record net revenue operating income and earnings per share.

Our net revenue increased 20% year over year to $709 million for the quarter.

Our fourth-quarter operating income of $79 million generated in earnings per share of $1.5 up 15% from last year. This represents the highest quarterly EPS in the company's history and the first time, we've exceeded the dollar EPS in any quarter in the company's history. And our backlog our best forward-looking indicator was also the highest in the history of the company growing to $348 billion up 7% both year on year and sequentially.

And our backlog our best forward looking indicator was also the highest in the history of the company growing to $348 billion up 7% both year on year and sequentially.

I'd now like to provide an overview of our performance by our end customer. In the fourth quarter, revenue for all of our client sectors increase compared to last year. We saw continued strength in our state and local revenues, which were up organically 30% from the fourth quarter last year. Even excluding the extraordinary contributions of our disaster response work. This is the sixth consecutive year of double-digit growth for our state and local business. Work for our US Federal clients was 28% of our revenue in the quarter and was up 11% from the same quarter last year.

In the fourth quarter revenue for all of our client sectors increase compared to last year.

We saw continued strength in our state and local revenues, which were up organically, 30% from the fourth quarter last year.

Even excluding the extraordinary contributions of our disaster response work. This is the sixth consecutive year of double digit growth for our state and local business.

Work for our U S. Federal clients was 28% of our revenue in the quarter and was up 11% from the same quarter last year.

This growth was driven by an increase in climate change related services and advanced analytics for our clients. Our US commercial revenue was 22% of our business up 8% from last year. Our environmental permitting, regulatory-driven programs and renewable energy services all contributed to our growth in this sector.

Our U S. Commercial revenue was 22% of our business up 8% from last year.

Our environmental permitting regulatory driven programs and renewable energy services all contributed to our growth in this sector.

And finally, our fastest-growing client sector was international where our revenue was up 35% from last year. Our international revenues did benefit from the addition of our new high-performance buildings group in the United Kingdom, Hoare Lea, who joined us in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2021. The rest of our international work grew at a strong 24% year on year pace with the expansion of broad-based sustainable infrastructure programs in Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom.

Our international revenues did benefit from the addition of our new high performance buildings group in the United Kingdom poorly who joined us in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2021.

The rest of our international work grew at a strong 24% year on year pace with the expansion of broad based sustainable infrastructure programs in Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom.

And I'd like to present, our performance by segment. In the fourth quarter, both of our segments grew at double-digit rates year over year. The government services group or GSG segment was up 13% compared to last year to $372 million, while maintaining a strong 14% margin on operating income. This performance was driven by our high-end data analytics and design services for water and environmental programs augmented by our disaster response and recovery work all across the country. The commercial international group or CAG grew by 30% year over year and delivered a 12, 4% margin up 50 basis points from last year.

In the fourth quarter, both of our segments grew at double digit rates year over year.

The government services group or <unk> segment was up 13% compared to last year to $372 million, while maintaining a strong 14% margin on operating income.

This performance was driven by our high end data analytics and design services for water and environmental programs augmented by our disaster response and recovery work all across the country.

The commercial international group or <unk> grew by 30% year over year and delivered a 12, 4% margin up 50 basis points from last year.

CAG's fourth-quarter results were driven by growth in our international operations and a strengthening commercial market here in the United States. Our backlog was up 7% both year on year and sequentially on strong broad-based orders, resulting in a new all-time high. A $3480 billion of contracted funded and authorized work from our clients. In the fourth quarter, we won new programs and task orders for differentiated water, environmental and renewable energy services building momentum for us in fiscal year '22 both in the US and the international markets.

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Our backlog was up 7% both year on year and sequentially on strong broad based orders, resulting in a new all time high.

A $3.480 billion of contracted funded and authorized work from our clients.

In the fourth quarter, we won new programs and task orders for differentiated water and.

Environmental and renewable energy services building momentum for us in fiscal year 'twenty two both in the U S and the international markets.

We also expanded our contract capacity by over $8 billion for key USAID, US Army Corps of engineers and know what programs that provide the contract vehicles for us to support the US government's climate change priorities. We want task orders with both the United States and international government agencies for water environment and climate change adaptation programs.

Army Corps of engineers and know what programs that provide the contract vehicles for us to support the U S government's climate change priorities.

We want task orders with both the United States and international government agencies for water environment and climate change adaptation programs.

In the fourth quarter, we had strong commercial orders of over $400 million to provide renewable energy, environmental restoration and sustainable infrastructure services. This was an extraordinarily well balanced quarter for orders from both our government and from our commercial clients. And at this point, I'd now like to turn the presentation over to Steve Burdick to present the details of our financials from the quarter and where we finished the year. Steve.

And at this point I'd now like to turn the presentation over to Steve Burdick to present, the details of our financials from the quarter and where we finished the year so Steve.

Thank you, Dan. Now I'd like to review the GAAP financial results for the fourth quarter as well as our financial condition for fiscal year 2021. Overall, as Dan noted earlier, we had record results in Q4 and record fiscal year results revenue operating income EPS and backlog. For fiscal 2021 fourth-quarter revenue was $892 million. The net revenue amounted to $709 million, which exceeded the upper end of our guidance range of 650 million to $750 million. Our revenue was up 18% over last year and net revenue was up 20% over last year with double-digit growth across international Federal state and local end markets.

Now I'd like to now review the GAAP financial results for the fourth quarter as well as our financial condition for fiscal year 2021.

Overall as Dan noted earlier, we had record results in Q4 and record fiscal year results revenue operating income EPS and backlog.

For fiscal 2021 fourth quarter revenue was $892 million.

The net revenue amounted to $709 million, which exceeded the upper end of our guidance range of 650 million to $750 million.

Our revenue was up 18% over last year and net revenue was up 20% over last year with double digit growth across international Federal state and local end markets.

Similarly, our operating profit and earnings per share improved. GAAP EPS came in at $1.52 in the fourth quarter, which was an increase of 85% over last year. In addition, adjusted earnings per share of $1.5 came in better than the top end of our Q4 guidance range of 95 cents $1. This is an improvement over the fourth quarter of last year by 15%. The higher EPS was due to an improvement in operating income, which came in at $82 million for the quarter up 23% over last year. And adjusted income was $79 million up 15% over last year.

GAAP EPS came in at $1 52 in the fourth quarter, which was an increase of 85% over last year.

In addition, adjusted earnings per share of $1 five came in better than the top end of our Q4 guidance range of 95 $2. This is an improvement over the fourth quarter of last year by 15%.

The higher EPS was due to improvement in operating income, which came in at $82 million for the quarter up 23% over last year.

And adjusted income was $79 million up 15% over last year.

As Dan noted earlier, the improved operating margin in the fourth quarter was really driven by a 30% growth in CIG. And the resulting CIG margin of 12,4% was an improvement of 50 basis points over last year. The difference between our GAAP EPS of $1.52, and adjusted EPS of $1.5was primarily due to a nonrecurring tax benefit. A reconciliation is available in this release, but to point out the tax benefit results from the release of the tax net operating loss reserve from our WYG acquisition in the fourth quarter of 2019.

And the resulting <unk> of margin of 12, 4% was an improvement of 50 basis points over last year.

The difference between our GAAP EPS of $1 52, and adjusted EPS of $1 five was primarily due to a nonrecurring tax benefit of <unk>.

Reconciliation is available in this release, but to point out the tax benefit results from the release of the tax net operating loss reserve from our <unk> acquisition in the fourth quarter of 2019.

Because we turned the company around from perennial losses with tax losses to double-digit profitability. There is no longer an accounting requirement to not recognize that future tax benefits. And that future tax benefit as such will provide future positive cash flows for the company. We also remained focused on generating positive operating cash flows in excess of our net income. Cash flows generated from operations for the fourth quarter totaled $78 million.

And that future tax benefit as such we will provide future positive cash flows for the company.

We also remained focused on generating positive operating cash flows in excess of our net income.

Cash flows generated from operations for the fourth quarter totaled $78 million.

For fiscal 2021, we have generated $304 million in cash flow from operations, which is ahead of last year by 16%. Our focus on working capital and cash flows has resulted in our DSO decreasing to 63 days as of the fourth quarter. This is an improvement of five days from last year at this time. Our net debt amounts to $46 million. And our net debt on EBITDA was at a leverage of 0.2 times. This is with a cash position of more than $167 million investment improvement in net debt of $88 million compared to last year.

Our focus on working capital and cash flows as resulted in our DSO decreasing to 63 days as of the fourth quarter.

This is an improvement of five days from last year at this time.

Our net debt amounts to $46 million.

And our net debt on an E.

Our net debt on EBITDA was at a leverage of 0.2 times.

This is with a cash position of more than $167 million investment improvement in net debt of $88 million compared to last year.

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Our long term capital allocation strategy calls for a balance of investing in the growth of our business, managing the balance sheet and providing returns to our shareholders. For the year, cash from operations generated $304 million, which is equal to about $5.57 per share. This has allowed us to invest in five acquisitions over that time to advance our long term strategy.

Managing the balance sheet and providing returns to our shareholders.

For the year cash from operations generated $304 million, which is equal to about $5 57 per share.

This has allowed us to invest in five acquisitions over that time to advance our long term strategy.

And during the fourth quarter, we continued to provide significant returns for our shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. So regarding our dividend program during the past quarter, we paid out $10.8 million in dividends. And I want to announce that our board of directors approved our 30th consecutive dividend, which will be paid in the month of December at a rate of 20 cents per share, which is an 18% increase over last year.

So regarding our dividend program during the past quarter, we paid out $10 $8 million in dividends.

And I want to announce that our board of directors approved our 30th consecutive dividend, which will be paid in the month of December at a rate of <unk> 20 per share, which is an 18% increase over last year.

Furthermore, we utilized $15 million in the fourth quarter on our stock buyback program. With the addition of the recently announced $400 million program, we have a total of $548 million remaining in our approved stock buyback programs. All told, for fiscal 2021, we returned more than $100 million to our shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. And in fiscal 2021, our strong cash flow allowed us to successfully complete the strategic acquisitions, continued to return capital to our shareholders, while still deleveraging to 0.2 times.

With the addition of the recently announced $400 million program, we had a total of $548 million remaining in our approved stock buyback programs.

All told for fiscal 2021, we returned more than $100 million to our shareholders through dividends and share buybacks.

And in fiscal 2021, our strong cash flow allowed us to successfully complete the strategic acquisitions.

You need to return capital to our shareholders, while still deleveraging to 0.2 times.

And our strong balance sheet and available liquidity of over $900 million positions us to continue to invest in these technical capabilities in strategic growth areas, both organically and through acquisitions. I'm really pleased to share these financial results for the fourth quarter and the fiscal year with you all. Thank you for your support and I'll turn the call back over to Dan.

I'm really pleased to share these financial results for the fourth quarter and the fiscal year with you all.

For your support and I'll turn the call back over to Dan.

Great. Thank you very much, Steve. I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing our outlook and the three major market drivers that we see today. First, the US Biden administration is increasingly focused federal agencies on programs that are directly aligned with what we do. Second, the US Congress passed with bipartisan support the landmark 1.2 trillion dollars infrastructure Bill that was signed by the President just three days ago. And third, internationally there is an increase in climate change awareness that is resulting in new programs and budget commitments and the economies that we're working it. These three market drivers are all directly in line with the work that we do for our clients.

I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing our outlook and the three major market drivers that we see today.

First.

The U S. By the administration is increasingly focused federal agencies on programs that are directly aligned with what we do.

Second the U S Congress passed with bipartisan support bipartisan support the landmark one two trillion dollars infrastructure Bill that was signed by the President just three days ago.

Third internationally there is an increase in climate change awareness that is resulting in new programs and budget commitments and the economies that we're working it.

These three Mike Mike. These three market drivers are all directly in line with the work that we do for our clients.

Since January 2021, The Biden administration set the priorities of the federal government across the multiple federal agencies that are our clients. Their prioritization of climate change, water and environment and international development is increasingly focusing resources on the type of work that we do. US Federal work for us is distributed across three primary sectors. First, civilian agencies. The second, department of defense and the third is international development. For these agencies, we are their high-end consultants.

Across the multiple federal agencies that are our clients.

Their prioritization of climate change water and environment and international development is increasingly focusing resources on the type of work that we do.

U S. Federal work for US is distributed across three primary sectors first civilian agencies.

Department of defense and the third is international development for.

For these agencies, we are their high end consultants.

We currently have over $20 billion in contract capacity with the US federal government that we use to support over 100 different federal agencies and departments with their highest priority programs. We work with the United States Environmental Protection Agency to assess climate change impacts on water quality all across the United States. We support the department of defense in analyzing and mitigating the impacts of emerging contaminants such as PFAS and provide resilient design for their facilities. And for the USA, we work on some of their highest-profile programs in ocean and coral reef protection sustainability and forest management and clean energy development.

We work with the United States Environmental Protection agency to assess climate change impacts of water quality all across the United States.

We support the department of defense, and analyzing and mitigating the impacts of emerging contaminants such as P fast and provide resilient design.

For their facilities.

And for USAID.

Work on some of their highest profile programs in ocean and Coral Reef protection sustainability.

Sustainability and Forest Management, Inc.

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On November 15th 2021, President Biden signed his law, the infrastructure investment and jobs Act or also known as IIJA committing an investment of 1.2 trillion dollars here in the United States. The act includes $550 billion in new commitments and sets out clear funding designated to the administration's priorities of water renewable energy environmental restoration in ports and waterways.

President Biden signed into law, the infrastructure investment and jobs Act or also known as <unk> JA committing an investment of one two trillion dollars.

Here in the United States.

The act includes $550 billion in new commitments and sets out clear funding designated to the administration's priorities of water renewable energy environmental restoration.

In ports and waterways.

These priorities are directly aligned with what we do and the funding will flow through federal, state and local programs and the contracts that we're working on now. For example. We're a leading consultant for the Army Corps of Engineers in dam design and waterway restoration. We provide our state and local clients with our number one ranked services in watershed management water supply and desalination design. And we provide permitting design and high voltage engineering for renewable energy programs that include hydropower, wind and solar.

We're a leading consultant for the Army Corps of Engineers in dam designed and waterway restoration.

We provide our state and local clients with our number one ranked services and watershed management water supply and desalination design.

And we provide permitting design and high voltage engineering for renewable energy programs that include hydropower wind and solar.

This landmark infrastructure Act will provide new opportunities for us to work with our clients to advance the science and resilient design across the markets we serve. As we enter fiscal year 2022, there's also an increase in climate change commitments in the major countries that we're working in. This increase awareness is resulting in additional funding for climate adaptation, including coastal protection, water supply and clean energy. Across Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia, we're seeing an increase in project activity, investments and resilient infrastructure and the demand for high-end solutions. By leveraging our leading with science approach, we provide our clients with the high-end expertise to address their programs anywhere in the world.

And resilient design across the markets we serve.

As we enter fiscal year 2022, there's also an increase in climate change commitments in the major countries that we're working it.

This increase awareness is resulting in additional funding for climate adaptation, including coastal protection.

Water supply and clean energy.

Across Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia, we're seeing an increase in project activity invest.

Investments and resilient infrastructure and the demand for high end solutions.

By leveraging our leading with science approach, we provide our clients with the high end expertise to address their programs anywhere in the world.

I'd now like to present our outlook for fiscal year '22 across all four of our client sectors and I'll start with the US federal sector. The US federal should continue to grow in the high single digits with alignment to the administration's priorities. We assume however that material increases associated with the new infrastructure Act will not begin or actually hit our contracts until late fiscal year '22 or early fiscal year 2023. And therefore, we have not included any contribution from this bill is in our guidance. State and local should continue to grow at a double-digit pace for us between 10% and 15% with expected continued strong growth in this sector as additional projects are initiated by our clients with their increased budgets and the remaining stimulus funding that came from fiscal year 2021.

The U S. Federal should continue to grow in the high single digits with alignment to the administration's priorities.

We assume however that material increases associated with the new infrastructure Act will not begin are actually hit our contracts until late fiscal year 'twenty two or early fiscal year 2023, and therefore, we have not included any contribution.

This bill in our guidance.

State and local should continue to grow at a double digit pace for us between 10% and 15% with expected continued strong growth in this sector as additional projects are initiated by our clients with their increased budgets and the remaining stimulus funding that came from fiscal year 2021.

This growth rate does exclude $50 million in 2021 revenues associated with extraordinary disaster response activities that we perform. US commercial is expected to be about 20% of our business and grow at a 5% to 10% rate. Growth will be supported by a continued focus on environmental restoration much of which is driven by regulatory requirements or directives. As well as our rapidly growing renewable energy consulting and engineering practice.

U S commercial is expected to be about 20% of our business and grow at a 5% to 10% rate.

Growth will be supported by a continued focus on environmental restoration much of which is driven by regulatory requirements or directives as.

As well as our rapidly growing renewable energy consulting and engineering practice.

And for International, our International work is expected to be about a third of our business evenly split between government and commercial work. Our international work is expected to grow at a 10% to 15% rate as we increase our support for sustainable infrastructure in climate change services in the key geographies of the United Kingdom, Australia and Canada. Now, while I just covered the growth rates on revenue from our key client sectors, we're also going to see in fiscal year 2022 our operating margins continued to expand.

International work is expected to grow at a 10% to 15% rate as we increase our support for sustainable infrastructure in climate change services in the key geographies of the United Kingdom.

Australia and Canada.

Now while I just covered the growth rates on revenue from our key client sectors were also going to see in fiscal year 2022 are operating margins continued to expand.

As you can see on our webcast since 2017, we've expanded our operating margins by 180 basis points and 40 basis points just from fiscal year 2020 to 2021. We do anticipate an additional 40 basis points expansion to result in an 11 point operating margin for the year of fiscal year '22. I will say that this is going to be contributed both from a margin expansion relatively even between our GSG segment and our CAG segment. So it's not just one of them that will be promoting and expanding the margin within the company. We see it relatively contributed evenly from our continued margin expansion from both segments.

Two.

I will say that this is going to be contributed both from a margin expansion relatively even between our GSP segment and our <unk> segment. So it's not just one of them that will be promoting and expanding the margin within the company. We see it relatively contributed evenly from our continued margin expansion from both segments.

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I'd now like to present, our guidance for the first quarter and for all of fiscal year 2022, our.

Our guidance is as follows and I will start with the first quarter for 2022. Our net revenue provides a guidance range of $630 million to $680 million with an associated diluted earnings per share of 98 cents to $1.3. For the entire year, our net revenue guidance is for a range of $2.6 billion, $2.8 billion with an associated earnings per share of $4 to $4.20. As has been our practice in the past, this guidance do include the intangible amortization, we expect that to be about 14 cents per share during fiscal year 2022, effective tax rate in the first quarter. Which is a bit different than the remainder of the year at 17% with the remaining three quarters at 25%. We do have 54.5 million shares outstanding and this does as has been our practice in the past does not include contributions from acquisitions that may take place during the year.

$1 three.

For the entire year.

Our net revenue guidance is for a range of $2 6 billion to $8 billion.

With an associated earnings per share of $4 to $4 20.

As has been our practice in the past these guidance do include the intangible.

<unk> amortization, we expect that to be about 14.

Per share during fiscal year, 2022% effective tax rate in the first quarter.

Which is a bit different than the remainder of the year at 17% with the remaining three quarters.

25%.

We do have 54.5 million shares outstanding and this does as has been our practice in the past does not include contributions from acquisitions that may take place during the year.

In summary, we had an excellent fourth quarter and in the entirety of fiscal year 2021, setting new records across the board for Tetra Tech's performance. As we enter fiscal year 2022, our high-end water, environment, renewable energy services are directly aligned with global priorities of all of our clients. Our all-time high backlog of $3.48 billion, provides us with both excellent visibility and momentum as we're moving into this new fiscal year. And Laura, with that, I'd like to open up the call for questions.

As we enter fiscal year 2022, our high end water.

Environment.

Renewable any jersey services are directly aligned with global priorities of all of our clients.

Our all time high backlog of $3 four 8 billion.

Provides us with both excellent visibility and momentum as we're moving into this new fiscal year.

And Laura with that I'd like to open up the call for questions.

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Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. First one I had. Could you talk a bit about what you're seeing in terms of wage inflation at the moment I stopped attrition until today, a common topic amongst the professional side of the space at the moment? It doesn't seem to be impacting your margin. So it's a good question, Sam. To date, we've really seen little to no impact on wage inflation, we do recognise that has impacted portions of the economy and that issues with respect to finding workers. And increase salaries has been an issue in some sectors, but it's really not affected our business. Generally, we find our individuals are paid well and the decisions that they come join Tetra Tech with respect to wage inflation, but we do pay what I would consider at market wages. Much of the individuals who may be more focused on wage salaries of people who have just entered the market. Quite often there are associated with our early projects that are cost plus or time and materials. So in the event, we do see it in the future, which I would reiterate we have not seen it to date, but we would be able to pass it on through our rates are our cost reimbursable nature of the contract vehicles that we have. With respect to attrition or turnover. We have also not seen that at this point I think I've shared on previous calls.

It doesn't seem to be impacting your margin.

So what are women.

So it's a good question Sam.

To date, we've really seen little to no impact on wage inflation, we do.

Ignite that has impacted portions of the economy and that issues with respect to finding workers.

The increase salaries has been an issue in some sectors, but it's really not affected our business generally we find our individuals are paid well and the decisions that they come join Tetra tech with respect to wage inflation, but we do pay what I would consider.

At market wages much.

Much of the.

Individuals who may be more focused on wage salaries of people who have just entered the market quite often there are associated with our early projects that are cost plus or time and materials. So in the event, we do see it in the future, which I would reiterate we have not seen it to date, but we would be able to pass it on through our rates are our cost reimbursable nature of the contract.

Vehicles that we have with.

With respect to attrition or turnover. We have also not seen that at this point I think I've shared on previous calls.

The overall turnover rate for Tetra Tech on an annual basis is actually dropped a little bit since the advent of the pandemic roughly in March of 2020. We've seen it go down. We were sort of in the high nines collectively as a company. We've seen that dropped to about 9% and we've not seen that increase as mobility has increased with sort of the reopening of some of these economies and other restrictions. So we've not we've really not seen that be an issue for us at this time, but we are for sure watching it carefully.

We've seen it go down we were sort of in the high nines collectively as a company.

We've seen that dropped to about 9% and we've not seen that increase as mobility has increased with sort of the reopening of some of these economies and other restrictions. So we've not we've really not seen that be an issue for us at this time, but we are for sure watching it carefully.

And the one thing that we have here at Tetra Tech that we think makes employees find Tetra Tech is a great location destination for a lifelong career is the most interesting work that we have that allows them to work not in a matrix or not just be a number but actually make a difference with the type of work that they perform for our clients. And that have impact on the environment in the world, particularly with climate change, becoming such a prevelant topic. We've actually not had much turnover and in fact have attracted some of the best talent in the industry have joined us here, where there has been a little bit higher turnover.

Find Tetra Tech is a great location destination for a lifelong career is the most interesting work that we have that allows them to work not in a matrix or not just be a number but actually make a difference with the type of work that they perform for our clients and that have impact on the environment in the world, particularly with climate change, becoming such a prep.

<unk> topics so we.

We've actually not had much turnover and in fact have attracted some of the best talent in the industry have joined us here, where there has been a little bit higher turnover.

Okay, great. Thanks, and then the next one I had, I was just wondering if there was anything arising from [top 20 states] this month that you think could be a benefit to you in the longer-term, particularly thinking about the international side of the business.

Well, I do think that there is opportunity there we're going to look to see how the commitments increased funding. It did have one slide that was one of the drivers for us. We have seen in Canada as I noted in the webcast presentation increased by over $5 billion commitment to climate change finances, United Kingdom at a double that number at more than $11 billion. And Australia actually commit just from the government 20 billion double that number again.

It did have one slide to that was one of the drivers for US we have seen in Canada as I noted in.

The webcast presentation increased by over $5 billion commitment to climate change finances, United Kingdom at a double that number at more than $11 billion in Australia actually commit just from the government 20 billion double that number again.

That is actually going to be focused on mobilizing private investments that are anticipated at an additional $80 billion. And so I think that collectively the $20 billion as a initial investment to trigger a collective aggregate in Australia of $100 billion investment over the next decade. So we have seen these commitments for the numbers, we do believe similar to the infrastructure Bill here in the United States. It's not a light switch. The commitment doesn't turn two of those dollars and projects being initiated within a day or week or a month, but we do think we're going to see continued build, continued prioritization. And we're really encouraged it was not just the United States. And the largest economies committing to this is really a global commitment. And so we think this portends very well for our future and the work that we can contribute to our clients in the future.

Focused on.

Mobilizing private investments that are anticipated at an additional $80 billion and so I think that collectively the $20 billion as a initial investment to trigger a collective aggregate in Australia of $100 billion investment over the next decade.

So we have seen these commitments for the numbers, we do believe similar to the infrastructure Bill here in the United States. It's not a light switch. The commitment doesn't turn two of those dollars and projects being initiated within a day or week or a month, but we do think we're going to see continued build, continued prioritization. And we're really encouraged it was not just the United States. And the largest economies committing to this is really a global commitment. And so we think this portends very well for our future and the work that we can contribute to our clients in the future.

Initiated within a day or week or a month, but we do think we're going to see continued build continued prioritization.

And we're really encouraged it was not just the United States. And the largest economies committing to this is really a global commitment. And so we think this portends very well for our future and the work that we can contribute to our clients in the future.

And the largest economies committing to this is really a global commitment and so we think this portends very well for our future and the work that we can contribute to our clients in the future.

Okay, great. Thanks, and then maybe just one more. I just wondered on the margin side, another strong improvement sen. So are you rethinking along the time margin opportunity for the business given the way in which technology is improving the margin profile of the business do you still set the targets you sort of talked about in the past?

So we thinking along the time margin opportunity for the business given the language technology is improving the margin profile of the business do you still set.

The targeted towards funding path.

Well, that's a great question. We hope that as we progress through the year, we'll actually identify new targets that will establish out two or three years from now. We have targeted a 13% operating income margin. I think if you add back some of the items that are typical for many reporting which is adding back stock-based comp heading back amortization, you'll see that were very close to the 13% now and in fact that we are re-evaluating that. And there is no question that as we build a little bit more scale with some of the data analytics work. We have some of the subscription programs that we have with some of the software that we've deployed to our clients. We do think that number will go up and I do look forward to sharing that with you and our other shareholders here in the coming quarters. But we do think there is higher ground, more expansion in margin available for us and I'd like to quantify that for you here as we move through the year.

We.

Hope that as we progress through the year, we'll actually identify new targets that will.

Establish out a two or three years from now we have targeted a 13% operating income margin I think if you add back some of the items that are typical for many reporting which is adding back stock based comp heading back amortization youll see that were very close to the 13% now and in fact that we are.

<unk> that and there is no question that as we build a little bit more scale with some of the data analytics work. We have some of the subscription programs that we have with some of the software that we've deployed to our clients. We do think that number will go up and I do look forward to sharing that with you and our other shareholders here in the coming quarters.

But we do think there is higher ground, more expansion in margin available for us and I'd like to quantify that for you here as we move through the year.

Great. Thanks, so much. I'll hand it over there. Thank you, Sam. Our next question comes from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti. You may proceed with your question.

Thank you Sam.

Our next question comes from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti You May proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning. I was wondering if we could start a bit on one of the callouts that you mentioned of performing well was around high-performance building. I know you've talked in the past about that opportunity and particularly in the UK. Just wanted to touch a little bit on maybe what your initial views are there as far as what you've seen so far and what that opportunities that may povide going forward.

I was wondering if we could start a bit on one of the callouts that you made mention of performing well was around high.

Thats building.

I know you've talked in the past about that opportunity and particularly.

In the UK just wanted to touch a little bit on maybe what your initial views are there as far as what you've seen so far in <unk> and what that opportunity set.

May provide going forward.

Well, it is interesting that it's one of the areas that are high-performance buildings practice now with the addition of Hoare Lea in the UK, which adds just under a thousand staff. We have probably a larger number than that here in the United States, primarily focused on the east and West Coast and a similar number in Australia. So we think we have a great geographic presence to support our clients globally wherever they are.

We have.

Probably.

A larger number than that here in the United States, primarily focused on the east and West Coast and a similar number in Australia. So we think we have a great geographic presence to support our clients globally wherever they are.

We have noted that in 2021 and even late 2020, because of the pandemic in a reevaluation of office space, we saw a slowdown in that business. So it was really interesting that that was an impact with respect to no investment as buildings. Internally, we saw the growth rates really go up the second half of this year on year, but it was primarily because of very depressed comparable from the prior year with the pullback. So we did see numbers that are in the mid-teens in growth.

2020, because of the pandemic in a reevaluation of office space, we saw a slowdown in that business. So it was really interesting that that.

That was an impact with respect to no investment as buildings internally, we saw the growth rates really go up the second half of this year year on year, but it was primarily because of very depressed comparable from the prior year with the pull back. So we did see numbers that are in the mid teens in growth.

I'm much more interested to see how that will progress as we move into early '22 with a comparable or more pre-pandemic representative I do think the growth rates can be in the double-digit rate. And a lot of it has moved from just new construction to renovation. And a reconfiguration of the buildings to allow more distancing, to allow industrial hygiene to allow wellness buildings and to move to net-zero, both from existing buildings and for new construction. I will say that collectively the margins are higher than our average commercial activity.

And Ah.

The reconfiguration of the buildings to allow more distancing to allow industrial hygiene to allow wellness buildings and to move to net zero both from existing buildings and for new construction I will say that the collectively the margins are higher than our average commercial.

Activity.

And so I think it's going to be one of the strongest contributors that we have. It is interesting. These are items that had been driven by our commercial clients as priorities for their tenants and for the buildings they own but we've seen an additional tailwind begin to emerge with regulatory drivers so as part of moving to lower emissions from buildings.

And I think I've mentioned this before approximately 30% of the greenhouse gas emissions are associated with physical building structures globally. So this is an absolutely cornerstone area that needs to be addressed to combat increased global warming and greenhouse gas emissions. So we are seeing that grow and with the regulatory drivers now contributing to what was driven by clients' personal preferences. We think this is going to be a big driver and with respect to the UK, I think some of the regulatory mandates that are emerging now may put it at the forefront of any of the regional jurisdiction requirements in the world. So I think it was great timing for Hoare Lea to join us. They are a forefront, a gold plated top-end consulting engineer that fits very well with Tetra Tech. And I expect great things from them to contribute to Tetra tech and actually help elevate our leading position with high-performance buildings designed.

Grow and with the regulatory drivers now contributing to what was driven by clients' personal preferences. We think this is going to be a big driver and with respect to the U K I think some of the regulatory mandates that are emerging now may put it at the forefront of any.

The regional jurisdiction requirements in the world. So I think it was great timing for Harley to join us.

Our our forefront a gold plated top end consulting engineer.

That fits very well with Tetra Tech and I expect great things from them.

To contribute to Tetra tech and actually help elevate our leading position with high performance buildings designed.

Thank you, that's great. Great update for us, and then the last thing for me. I wanted to touch a little bit on the utilization opportunities going forward. I think we've made mentioned in the past you've made mentioned in the past the ability to use some staff across maybe borders or certain areas of service. And I was wondering and I would imagine that's certainly something that is also a draw for folks to join and stay with the company, but I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe what those opportunities look like. Especially now that there's maybe a little more visibility following the signing of the act. Thank you.

Great update for US and then the last thing for me Fortunately it over I wanted to touch a little bit on the B.

Utilization opportunities going forward I think we've made mentioned in the past you've made mentioned in the past of the ability to use some staff across maybe.

Cross borders or certain areas.

Service and I was wondering and I would imagine that's certainly something that is also a draw for folks too.

Join and stay with the company, but I Wonder if you could talk a little bit about maybe what those opportunities look like especially now that theres, maybe a little more visibility following the signing of the act.

That's a great question, Mark. One thing that, if you would ask what are the some of the areas I've been extraordinarily pleased with or I've been really happy with within the company has been our use of the virtual electronic platforms that we put in place over the past decade. So when the pandemic did come, we did get the opportunity to test how great or not great it was going to work. And the ability to move individuals working from home, instead of the office was just an extension of what we've been able to do internationally. So for instance, the high-performance buildings is a great example, each of our geographic centers have different specialties. Some are the best at fire protection in the world. Some are the best at lighting and low voltage. Some are at the best at communication systems. Other are with respect to mechanical systems. And so to take this expertise that we have in different areas and to move them and allow them to work electronically regardless of where they are in the world on a project to provide our clients with the best world-class outcome has been very helpful, not just for the best product, but when things got slow in the commercial sector.

If you would ask what are the some of the areas I've been extraordinarily pleased with I've been really happy with within the company has been our use of the virtual electronic platforms that we put in place over the past decade. So on the pandemic did come we did get the opportunity to test how great or not great. It was going to work and the ability to move individuals working from home.

instead of the office was just an extension of what we've been able to do internationally. So for instance, the high-performance buildings is a great example, each of our geographic centers have different specialties. Some are the best at fire protection in the world. Some are the best at lighting and low voltage. Some are at the best at communication systems. Other are with respect to

<unk> two.

mechanical systems. And so to take this expertise that we have in different areas and to move them and allow them to work electronically regardless of where they are in the world on a project to provide our clients with the best world-class outcome has been very helpful, not just for the best product, but when things got slow in the commercial sector.

We were able to move these individuals' and work on our federal work, which picked up or state and local. So the fungibility of many of the technical disciplines we have has given us great flexibility to respond to where we have searches and work. So if for instance, the federal government picked up significantly, but we saw a little bit more of a slower recovery in commercial, we can move those individuals' across and you can see it in our margin. So we don't have stranded technical assets or labor base, and I will say and I'll reiterate this that the workforce that we have today, we're running at about a 70% utilization. Which is a calculation all in. That counts myself, that counts Steve Burdick, our CFO and every individual in this company is included in this. Some referred to it as do you include your SG&A will include our SG&A and everything else in between is around 70. We have about a 10% to 15% surge capacity with respect to utilization that we could take to address increased revenue with the existing work. for us that we have today. So if for some reason the infrastructure Bill that was passed is accelerated and hits the market quicker.

Significantly, but we saw a little bit more of a.

A slower recovery in commercial we can move those individuals' across and you can see it in our margin. So we don't have stranded technical assets or labor base, and I will say and I'll reiterate this that the workforce that we have today, we're running at about a 70% utilization, which is a calculation all in headcounts myself that counts.

<unk>, our CFO and every individual in this company is included in this some referred to it as do you include your SG&A will include our SG&A and everything else in between is around 70, we have about a 10% to 15% surge capacity with respect to utilization that we could take to address increased revenue with the existing work.

For us that we have today, so if for some reason the.

Infrastructure Bill that was passed is accelerated and hits the market quicker.

We really don't have any issue with respect to responding and taking on this work. With having a problem, adding additional staff, we don't need it. So it's a combination of increased utilization and the use of technology that we've employed in our business, can handle a 10% to 15% surge. And that's without adding any additional overhead so much of that would just drop to the bottom line our margin expansion. So that's what we see both with utilization opportunity, how we would do it and how we could actually handle additional opportunities in the market.

With having a problem, adding additional staff, we don't need it. So it's a combination of increased utilization and the use of technology that we've employed in our business can handle a 10% to 15% surge and that's without adding any additional overhead so much of that would just drop to the bottom line our margin expansion.

So that's what we see both with utilization opportunity, how we would do it and how we could actually handle additional opportunities in the market.

<unk> in the market.

That's really helpful. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you very much mark.

Our next question comes from the line of Noelle Dilts with Stifel. You May proceed with your question.

Hi, guys congrats on the nice quarter.

Thanks Philip.

So I think I was hoping to just dig in a little bit more on the margin profile of GST and <unk> and so we look forward Dan I know you mentioned that you see anticipate pretty even improvement across both sectors and.

I guess it surprised me, maybe a little bit just because <unk> seems to have been somewhat more impacted by the pandemic.

So maybe you could dig in a little bit more into how you are looking at the kind of margin profile.

Looking forward for each segment and then you touched on this a little bit with utilization, but.

Are there any costs that we should be aware of that you see coming back into the business like travel et cetera, with the pandemic kind of beginning to ease a bit. Thanks.

Okay, Great I'll address both of those first as margin.

No doubt I originally would have and I have over the past two years expected that the margin was going to expand or grow disproportionately to the government services and in fact that is what we have seen over these past couple of years, but I would say that with the additional.

Use of technology in our government services group and that spend for digital water for our state and local looking to move to a digital platforms remote monitoring and operation of plants for municipal clients has actually allowed for margin expansion, our federal practice, which I've spoken of in past calls that we.

To grow from its current rate at about $300 million a year run rate up to about 500 over the next couple of years is carrying a much higher margin and just the use of technology and I would say these are software applications for solving some of the engineering and consulting.

Challenges in projects that we have is actually allowed for additional expansion. So I thought that if you went back a year or two I thought that our government services was going to be a good I think I had said we were at 12%, 13%, we've gone a year ago because of data.

Use of data and technology to 12, 5% to 13, five and I expect that that will go 13 to 14.

ISR.

<unk> continues to expand part of that's driven by.

Mix, we have shed and closed down what I would call business that had moved to more commodity rates. We have used technology. So for this next year I still think there will be spotty recovery I do think that some of the commercial work will lag the recovery with our state and local government clients and yet I still expect the margins will expand from what I.

Came into 2021 was 11% to 12% I think let another 50 basis points to that to 11 five to 12 five range.

Those are the reasons I got utilization and mix.

Affecting our <unk>.

And on the government side, its use of technology and additional advanced analytics and as far as costs go do I expect additional cost I'm not so concerned about.

Travel and entertainment these types of items, but I do think actually the quarter. We're in right now may be one of the first quarters that we see an impact with respect to additional vacation time.

And I know folks had been bottled up and have had been restricted on.

Going outside and traveling.

Do see that.

There'll be a bit more travel and a little bit more vacations and holiday time through in the U S from Thanksgiving all the way through new year's I think it's relatively de Minimis I think its very temporal. So I do think people will get to visit and spend time with family and take a little time off that we hadn't seen.

But I think it's it's.

Just very temporal I don't see a resurgence of an indirect costs that will affect our rates at all but I will mentioned in Q1, if you see it slightly.

Increased.

Vacation time, that's not that's not a surprise and in fact, we're planning for that already and its been embedded in our guidance.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Second question. Obviously, you saw a nice acceleration in US commercial in the quarter. You touched on what you're seeing in some of the high-performance buildings. But could you expand a bit on industrial water and what you're seeing there in terms of activity? And how you're thinking about the consulting around [PFAS] at this point? Thanks.

Question.

Obviously, you saw a nice acceleration in U S commercial in the quarter you touched on what Youre seeing in.

Some of the high performance buildings, but could you expand a bit on industrial water and.

What youre seeing there in terms of activity.

And how you are.

How youre thinking about that.

Consulting around DFAST at this point thanks.

It's a good question I've seen the I'll start with PFS first since it's extremely topical these days and I think that PFS, while it's been questions that I feel that on these calls over the past year or two it's become a bit more prominent with respect to being in the news. The current administration of EPA has actually come out with.

Timeline to initiate all of the steps necessary to create a drinking water standard or an mcl four P fast.

It is interesting.

Seen our commercial clients now move too.

Complete investigations and assessments of areas, where there may have been discharged of water or they get or any products that had contained P. Fast. So we have seen an increase in the investigation.

An assessment.

<unk> seen evaluation of changing some of the product usage to remove anything that would have a components or derivatives P. Foster people or any of these other regulated chemicals. So we have seen on that portion what I would say as a precursor to a regulatory enforcement or regulatory driven requirements. So so we have seen that as.

Far as what I would as far as purely industrial water.

I would say it has been.

Static.

We've seen some of the discretionary work pick up but a lot of the work that we do under our industrial water programs or regulatory driven with respect to meeting discharge requirements meeting pre treatment.

Thresholds that have to be in place. So we've really seen that stable through the through the pandemic because there were regulatory drivers I do say M. P fast, though and I know its moving away a little bit from the commercial side as.

As <unk> moves forward, it's going to have and moves to a regulatory standard which we expect.

In 2023 based on the timelines that came out from the EPA that.

All of the municipal water use.

Utilities will have to meet the <unk> standard and so that doesn't happen overnight. So the work that will have to begin driving those evaluations will start soon and in fact, we've put in place in Orange County, California, one of the largest pretty fast treatment systems that exist in the entire country already in anticipation of this.

Regulation in the future so.

We're actually seeing it from being something thats coming to its beginning to beat her now.

Thanks, so much.

Thank you Noah.

Our next question comes from the line of Sean Eastman with Keybanc Capital markets. You May proceed with your question.

Hi team thanks for taking my questions.

I just wanted to come back to the <unk>.

Hey.

I'm just curious if you if you look at the core.

Funding line items Tetra Tech plays in.

What type of percentage increases are you seeing in this legislation.

I'm just curious if.

If you can provide any context for this for this bill.

You know I can I would point you to page 13 of our it's just as a as a reference to a slide but on the U S infrastructure stimulus for AIG.

You did call out some of the areas that we would see as a direct addressable market or areas that we would be.

Focused on now Theres, many portions that addresses everything from broadband to tap.

Capital bridges, and other structures, but some of the areas that we see.

The water infrastructure and resilience 110 billion I will say one that's caught our attention that's new funding. So when you say, what's the incremental increase well when you're going from zero to 47 billion for climate resiliency.

I don't know how you put a percentage on that number.

So it's up.

Infinite number and is actually creating new projects and new priorities that just didn't even exist before but we did.

<unk> here over $200 billion of what we think are directly addressable new funding.

In our presentation today, and again anywhere from over 101 billion for water infrastructure resilience, our power infrastructure, which is a lot of it is for the grid high voltage engineering and much of is it to determine the interconnects in the transmissions from renewables renewable energy into the grid and we're doing that work in house, we have well over 500.

High voltage electrical engineers within Tetra Tech and I'll tell you. It's one of just we're one of just a very few organizations that have the capability to do that type of high voltage engineering anywhere in North America.

Environmental restoration, which is another word for superfund sites.

Is being put on an additional $20 billion. So its an incremental increase and we expect that to.

To be very key for ourselves and of course ports and waterways contaminated sediments at well over $10 billion. So I think these are the areas that we're focused on it cover the.

The bill itself covers many different areas, but we do know what we're focused on and that should keep us more than more than busy for an expanded extended period of time and the one item I do want to make sure that that is known here with respect to Tetra Tech that I feel so positive about.

The Bill Thats passed is it's not a build out is going to push the funds through in the next one to two or three years. This is a program that is going to stay at least the next five and they say to 10 years. So this is actually a tailwind or funding that's going to be deployed over an extended period of time. So it's not let's just go fast and see what happen.

And it's actually funds that are going to be invested to take tetra tech to take Tetra tech forward in the country into the 21st century for infrastructure and become a global leader and for that you actually need the thought leaders to high end engineers and scientists to take the lead and we think that we're very well positioned for that.

Okay, very very helpful and just in light of.

You are very.

Excited response, there it's interesting that your comments here on the call are.

Or more so around <unk>.

Highlighting the flex you have in your current staffing rather than coming out and saying we're ramping staffing.

To get ready for this so so what exactly do you want to see.

Before you start making those types of decisions.

Yes, that's a great question and.

Our practice.

My practice that I learned from my predecessor.

Who has learned from his predecessor, which is really a hallmark of Tetra Tech's culture as we staff to the work we have.

I don't we don't staff in advance and prepare for it so we arent going to add 10% staff in anticipation of work to come but we do is we will make commitments with the staff that we have to address the projects that are in the marketplace too and we will add staff as projects come on we can handle a significant amount of increase.

If you think about this when I sit through the use of.

<unk>, our additional utilization plus technology, we could I believe the utilization can handle 10% in technology. Another five so a $3 billion that's $450 million just round up to 500, we could handle an additional $500 million of annual revenue with the workforce that we have today and the technologies that we deploy.

Throughout the organization. So we could take that now of course that means that you are running your car running your organization at a higher RPM so to speak it doesn't like to be there for ever and so then what we would do is then we would add additional staff that would bring the utilization.

Back to what I would call a a more long term sustainable level. So this is a practice that we've employed certainly through my tenure at the company and we would expect to deploy in the future.

Okay very helpful I'm going to sneak one more and so you have 40 basis points of margin expansion in the guidance for fiscal 'twenty two.

How much of that is just utilization versus.

Higher margin mix of business and then as we look into the out years and consider the <unk> and some of these other international funding programs.

You see the penetration of those higher end.

Advanced analytics and digital solutions.

Accelerating around some of these funding programs I mean is there an opportunity to accelerate this kind of margin accretive mix shift that you've been highlighting over the last several quarters.

Well I think the answer is yes, and with respect to the expansion of.

Our 40 basis points for fiscal year 'twenty, two about half of it's from utilization or just more work in topline growth and the other fact is through mix and use of technology.

Elevation.

<unk> has a certain optical amount that can contribute so I believe that the movement and I think it was an earlier question today are there new high levels by which the margin can expand in the corporation and the answer is clearly, yes, and I think that's going to come from technology and mix change and that affects both our commercial and our government side. So I would say we're.

The additional outpace side of margin going to come from it's going to come through our use of technology and business mix that we have performing network and that's what I. That's the area that I expect will represent an even bigger upside.

In the future our utilization will always be something that can contribute based on the amount of work we have in any given quarter compared to our workforce, but as far as structurally changing everything and moving it up there's no doubt it's moving to the use of more analytics more technology and moving more and more to the high end.

Very helpful I'll turn it over thanks a lot.

Thank you Phil.

Our next question comes from the line of Andy Wittmann with Baird. You May proceed with your question.

Hey, Dan Thanks for taking my question I had.

Question on the U S business.

And you previously talked about how this business when nobody is traveling did suffer some declines because of the pandemic I was just wondering.

Back to work or your people in this business in particular and how much of the guidance the revenue guidance increase or how.

How much revenue uplift.

<unk> list is baked into the 'twenty two guidance from USA I D.

Well, that's a really good question A&D, because if you went back to the last quarterly call we had with.

With you all collectively at the end of July.

I expected that USAID would actually be one of the biggest drivers for our federal growth.

And in fact, what we actually saw here. This last quarter was our international development work was relatively flat in fact, our federal work was primarily driven by as I mentioned in my prepared remarks by the civilian and defense now to come back to aid.

What we did see at the end at the very end of our fourth quarter. In fact, roughly early September with a couple of weeks to go.

We saw.

The U S and by the way Western countries exit Afghanistan.

Tetra Tech was one of the largest international development support contractors for USAID and in fact other agencies.

Afghanistan supporting infrastructure development supply of water flood protection sanitation reliable energy from renewable sources, we were working on all of those programs and we watch that business or that.

<unk> go from what the.

Previous 12 months was roughly $15 million revenue contribution to the company net revenue being about half that to pretty much a light switch within a few weeks.

Everybody was gone now we have <unk>.

<unk> done some work with respect to supporting refugees and other what I call ancillary items, but I think it's that that item that actually caused us as we moved into fiscal year 'twenty two to move our federal growth.

Production.

Saw that we had estimated a 10% to 15%.

Federal growth.

For the fourth quarter and the beginning of 2022, you saw us pull that back a little bit to five to 10 and it was really almost solely solely associated with this $50 million reduction in that single program. So if you really just took that aside the rest of our federal business is really growing at a 10% to 15% rate.

I do think that there was still continued impact on international development with respect to.

Localized our restrictions on travel because of the delta variance in other.

Covid impact.

<unk> seen the most restrictive.

Actions taken in Germany, and Belgium here, even just this week we've seen it in other locations. So that's continued to be sort of a little bit of a.

Fit and start we move forward and then when you get a little slowdown so that hasnt opened up quite as quickly as we saw but the single program in Afghanistan actually just from a collective numbers has.

Has caused we expect USA to be sort of flattish in 22, now I would say that if you just take X Afghanistan is growing quite well, but when you put that in it actually impacted that single guidance number we provided on our outlook for the U S Federal government.

That's really helpful context, Thank you for that Okay, and my second question.

Just has to do with how youre thinking about the buyback.

Now in the enviable position of having your free cash flow yields of your stock probably deemed below your marginal cost of debt. So EPS accretion isn't really what you're playing for any more like that was in the past, but I was wondering how that phenomenon.

It's been thought about at the board and your posture towards the buyback given this.

And just kind of your thoughts surrounding that.

Well I.

I do think.

How do they refer to it sometimes as a problem, but it's a high class problem to have actually generated sufficient cash to to be in essentially a net debt pre position and actually move to a cash on the balance sheet.

I think Steve has outlined and we've been very consistent that we're committed to returning capital to our shareholders through buybacks and through.

Buybacks of stock and dividends.

We thought that between acquisitions and dividends and the buyback that we had prior to this fiscal year.

We could be.

Begin to move our leverage to an appropriate spot where our balance sheet is contributing to the company also.

The good news is we've continued to lower our DSO, we've generated more cash you did see the first week of fiscal our fiscal year 'twenty two or October 4th week of October 4th We did increase the board to support an additional $400 million.

Of buyback authorization as Steve has said, it's taken us well into the $500 million availability for buyback.

We it is not for EPS accretion, but we do want to make sure we not only but more than offset any dilution that would exist for use at the stock but the goal is to actually move the company to a leveraged position that will have the balance sheet contribute and have our balance sheet work every bit as hard as our engineers and scientists to make the <unk>.

Company successful so do look for us to deploy.

The buybacks that perhaps a bit more aggressive level, we didn't increase it just to have that capacity and just look at it.

So we will be able to share with you how we look at that at the end of Q1 as we will have been through our first quarter with the increased capacity available.

But really most importantly, we're looking for firms that are best in class that AD technologies and expertise that will differentiate the company. It is by far the most important.

Strategic imperative for the company, we're looking to get smarter better or invented more inventive and to provide solutions that have never existed before for our clients. So people that join us that can make us smarter and Edison to new markets and help differentiate us even further than we already are is the absolute first prior.

For the use of our cash.

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We really and Steve did talk with just under $1 billion of access to capital without doing anything extraordinary.

I would hope that we have all of those opportunities and we can make use of all of that but we're not looking to become bigger as you've heard before we're looking to be better and so that's what's causing us to be selective as to who we have joined Tetra tech.

Great. Thanks, a lot have a good day guys.

Great. Thank you very much Andy.

Yes.

This will conclude the Q&A session I would now turn this conference back over to Dan <unk> to conclude.

Thank you very much Laura I really appreciate it and thank you all for your insights and questions and interest in Tetra Tech and for joining us today.

We're really excited here at Tetra Tech.

And I think one comment was you hear the enthusiasm I'll tell you. The enthusiasm has come from the employees and the project managers here at Tetra Tech based on the work that were there.

We're working on today and so I really look forward to speaking to you at the end of this first quarter and sharing with you. How we started fiscal year 'twenty. Two so thanks for your support have a great.

Safe rest of your day and a weekend. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our conference for today. Thank you for your participation have a great rest of the day all parties may disconnect now.

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