Q4 2021 Juniper Networks Inc Earnings Call

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Juniper networks Q4, 2021 FY 2021 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen only mode and we will open the floor for your questions.

And comments after the presentation. It's now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host.

Jeff Luber, Sir the floor is yours.

Thank you operator, good afternoon, and welcome to our fourth quarter 2021 conference call.

Today are Rami Rahim, Chief Executive Officer, and Ken Miller, Chief Financial Officer.

Today's call contains certain forward looking statements based on our current expectations.

These statements are subject to risks and uncertainty and actual results might differ materially.

These risks are discussed in our most recent 10-Q, the press release and CFO commentary furnished with our 8-K filed today.

In our other SEC filings.

Our forward looking statements speak only as of today and Juniper undertakes no obligation to update any forward looking statements.

Our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial results.

Conciliation information can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website under financial reports.

Commentary on why we consider non-GAAP information useful view of the company's financial results is included in today's press release.

Following our prepared remarks, we will take questions.

We ask that you. Please limit yourself to one question so that as many people as possible we would like to ask a question you have a chance.

With that I will now turn the call over to Rob.

Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us on today's call to discuss our Q4 and full year 2021 results I Hope you and your families are well and my thoughts go out to all those who continued to be affected by the global pandemic we.

We delivered strong results during the fourth quarter with revenue and non-GAAP earnings per share both exceeding the midpoint of our guidance. Despite continued challenges from a supply chain perspective.

Demand remains strong and exceeded our expectations with orders being high teens year over year growth when adjusted to account for extended lead times on an unadjusted basis orders grew by more than 50% year over year for a third consecutive quarter and our ending backlog increased to a record level of more.

One 8 billion.

Order momentum was strong across all verticals all customer solutions in all geographies with each of these categories experiencing strong double digit order growth year over year.

Our Q4 results capped a very strong 2021, which saw us grow our enterprise business for a fifth consecutive year grow our cloud business for a third consecutive year and returned our service provider business to growth.

Not to be overlooked we also expanded our non-GAAP operating margins year over year, despite absorbing material increases in both supply chain and acquisition related costs.

Our teams are executing extremely well and we are entering the new year with strong momentum. This momentum is being driven by our strategic actions and there are four pillars that give me confidence as we look forward to 2022.

First our commitment to experience first networking and delivering technologies that simplified customer operation and improve the end user experience.

While our experienced first journey started with mist, and then 128 technology in our AI driven enterprise portfolio. We subsequently extended this vision to the data center with the Aster acquisition and the service provider market with our Paragon automation suite.

The software centric solution gives us important strategic control points did not only create new recurring revenue opportunities, but also differentiate and pull through other juniper product, creating a multiplier effect that will benefit growth in the years to come.

Our experienced first vision is a key point of differentiation for our products that we believe is resonating across customers and providing confidence in our future prospects.

Second we are highly focused and aligned to three major use cases are.

Automated Wan AI, driven enterprise and cloud data center solutions and.

And we are enabling security to be seamlessly embedded within all of them.

Each of these use cases is likely to see attractive market tailwind over the next several years.

Focusing our company from a product management engineering to go to market on a handful of meaningful and growing opportunities enables us to accelerate our growth in 2021.

This focus also enables us to continue to deliver the technical differentiation and new innovations to capitalize on the big market inflection that we see unfolding in 2022 and beyond.

Third our go to market transformation is yielding meaningful results. This started with a change in sales leadership back in early 2019, which was followed by a meaningful increase in quota carrying sales reps during 2020 and incremental sales development and enablement.

<unk> in 2021.

We've also made meaningful investments in our channel increasing the total number of Juniper channel partners by more than 30% through 2019.

This investment not only resulted in record channel sale this past quarter, but also more than 100% increase in year over year deal registration, which reflects robust demand generated solely by the channel.

These investments in our sales and channel organization have enabled us to accelerate our growth and should position us to do so again in the upcoming year.

To be clear, we view our go to market organization as a competitive advantage, while we will continue to invest to capture share.

Finally, we continue to transition our business to a more software centric model.

This includes transforming more of our perpetual offerings to term based licenses introducing more ratable subscription offering and training our sales organization to better monetize the value of our software stack.

While these efforts remain in the early innings, we experienced encouraging momentum in the Q4 timeframe, which saw total software and related services revenue grew 41% year over year and orders increased by more than 100% year over year.

Our annualized recurring revenue, which solely consists of truly ratable software subscriptions and related services increased 32% year over year due to strong demand for mist and certain security subscription.

We are encouraged by the progress we're making in our efforts to capture more software revenue, which we view as critical to not only accelerating growth, but it also improving customer stickiness and margin.

Our strategy is well aligned against a backdrop of healthy end market that should position us for growth over the next few years.

This growth is being driven by the strategic importance of the network, which is only likely to increase in the coming years as enterprise digital transformation and clarification initiatives accelerate cloud and service provider 400 gig upgrade build momentum and service provider <unk> investments expand beyond the radioactive.

Layers to the metro edge and core portions of the network.

While I am encouraged by the market dynamics, we're seeing I strongly believe the products. We are delivering the customer engagement, we've developed and the investments. We've made in our go to market organization will position us to gain share and deliver sustainable growth in the years to come regardless of end market conditions.

As you can tell I am very optimistic regarding our future prospects. Despite the supply chain challenges, we're continuing to navigate.

I believe these challenges are likely to prove transitory and the strong order momentum we're seeing in the backlog. We have developed sets us up extremely well to deliver solid growth and improved profitability in 2022 and beyond.

Based on our recent order momentum current backlog levels and our assumptions regarding supply. We currently expect to deliver 7% to 9% sales growth.

<unk> a point of operating margin expansion in 2022.

Our expectations for 2020 to assume current supply chain challenges persist and that we are unable to work down backlog during the year potentially creating longer term tailwind for our business once the supply chain improved and backlog return to more normal levels.

While we would expect gross orders to decline in 2022 as lead times stabilize and we start seeing pure early orders, we expect adjusted orders to grow for the year.

Now I would like to provide some additional insights into the quarter and address some of the key developments, we're seeing from a customer solutions perspective.

Starting with our automated Wan solution, which saw strong momentum from both a revenue and order perspective, particularly with our cloud and service provider customers.

We saw healthy demand across both our <unk> and Pts product families and strong adoption of our newer products as well as our Paragon automation portfolio.

Our 400 gig solutions are performing well and we now have more than 200 wide area when that should present building tailwind from a revenue perspective in the years to come.

We're continuing to invest in our automated wind portfolio and just recently announced next Gen custom silicon families for our Nx and Pts platform that will offer industry, leading throughput power efficiency and logical scale, all while maintaining investment protection. We're also.

So continuing to invest in our ACX Metro portfolio, where we continue to see strong early interest that should further build as we complete the portfolio later this year.

These investments are resonating with our service provider and cloud customers, who appreciate that no single silicon families optimized for all use cases and prefer to purchase systems with silicon that is purpose built for the job at hand.

We are playing to win across all areas of automated Wan solution and making the investments needed to capitalize on our customers' core edge and metro requirement that we believe present opportunities for growth over the next several years.

Our AI driven enterprise revenue significantly outpaced the market growing 29% year over year in Q4, and 27% on a full year basis.

It has been especially exciting to see our mid solution go from a cool technology to a leader in the 2021, Gartner Magic quadrant for wired and wireless access with top scores in both vision and ability to execute.

Speaker 1: and go from a cool technology to a leader in the 2021 Gartner Magic Quadrant for wired and wireless access with top scores in both vision and ability to execute.

Speaker 1: Buoyed by several unique architectural differences, including leading AIOps and a modern microservices cloud, we continue to see record numbers in our wired and wireless access business.

By several unique architectural differences, including leading AI ops and a modern micro services cloud, we continue to see record numbers in our wired and wireless access business.

Speaker 1: For example, our wireless revenue more than doubled year-over-year in Q4 and the winning continues as we recently closed a multi-million dollar win with a major multinational bank based on simplified operations via AIOps and location services that leverage our patented virtual BLE technology.

For example, our wireless revenue more than doubled year over year in Q4, and the winning continues as we recently closed a multimillion dollar win with a major multinational bank based on simplified operations via AI ops and location services that leverage our patented virtual BLT.

Technology.

Speaker 1: We're also seeing strong missed pull-through of our EX switching portfolio, which experienced record orders and units sold in the fourth quarter.

We're also seeing strong mist pull through of our switching portfolio, which experienced record orders and units sold in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1: Our mystified revenues of wireless LAN, wired access, Marvis virtual network assistance, and Associated EX pull through more than doubled in Q4 as compared to last year, and our annualized order run rate surpassed $600 million in the quarter.

Our mystified revenue of wireless Lan Wired access Marvin virtual network assistant and associated <unk> pull through more than doubled in Q4 as compared to last year and our annualized order run rate surpassed $600 million in the quarter.

Speaker 1: On a full-year basis, our mystified revenue was approximately $300 million in 2021 and nearly doubled year-over-year.

On a full year basis, our mystified revenue was approximately $300 million 2021, and nearly doubled year over year.

Speaker 1: Our AI-driven SD-WAN solution, which combines the unique SessionSmart routing technology acquired by 128 Technology with the automation and insight of Mist AI, is following in the same footsteps.

Our AI driven SD Wan solution, which combines the unique session smart routing technology acquired by 128 technology with the automation and inside of Mist AI is following in the same footsteps.

Speaker 1: We saw triple-digit year-over-year revenue and order growth in Q4, with key wins in various sectors like retail and banking, and strong traction within the federal government.

We saw triple digit year over year revenue and order growth in Q4 with key wins in various sectors like retail and banking and strong traction within the federal government.

Speaker 1: One new customer deployed 300 sites the week before Christmas, highlighting the ease and scale of the Juniper SD-WAN solution driven by Mist AI.

New customer deployed 300 sites the week before Christmas highlighting the ease and scale of the Juniper SD Wan solution driven by mist AI.

Speaker 1: With new product enhancements announced this month, including day zero and one operation via the missed cloud, new SSR hardware platform, and bundled security capabilities, we expect demand to further build in future quarters.

With new product enhancements announced this month, including day zero and one operation via the mist cloud, new SSR hardware platform and bundled security capabilities, we expect demand to further build in future quarters.

Speaker 1: Of special note are the full-stack, multi-million dollar opportunities we continue to win and deploy, where companies are turning to Juniper for a combination of their wired access, wireless access, and WAN Edge needs.

Of special note, our the full stack multimillion dollar opportunities, we continue to win and deploy where companies are turning to juniper for a combination of their wired access wireless access and Wan edge deeds.

Speaker 1: Based on our recent order of momentum, third-party validation, and the technical superiority of our AI-driven enterprise portfolio, I remain highly confident regarding the outlook for our AI-driven enterprise business during the upcoming year.

Based on our recent order momentum third party validation and the technical superiority of our AI driven enterprise portfolio I remain highly confident regarding the outlook for our AI driven enterprise business during the upcoming year.

Speaker 1: While our cloud-ready data center revenue declined in Q4 due solely to the timing of shipments related to supply chain challenges, we experienced another quarter of encouraging order trends driven by broad-based strength across verticals and geographies.

While our cloud ready data center revenue declined in Q4 due solely to the timing of shipments related to supply chain challenges, we experienced another quarter of encouraging order trend driven by broad based strength across verticals and geographies.

Speaker 1: We continued to see strong momentum with new logos, and we secured a record number of deals greater than $1 million.

We continued to see strong momentum with new logos, and we secured a record number of deals greater than $1 million.

Speaker 1: 400 gig momentum remains strong and we now have more than 6,400 gig data center wins that include cloud majors, large enterprise, and service provider accounts.

400 gig momentum remains strong and we now have more than 6400 gig data center wins that include cloud majors large enterprise and service provider accounts.

Speaker 1: Key to our continued growth in the data center is Astra, the industry's leading intent-based networking solution that provides users with a superior experience versus our competitors across day zero, day one, and day two operations.

Key to our continued growth in the datacenter is astro the industry's leading intent based networking solution that provides users with a superior experience versus our competitors across the zero day, one and day two operations.

Speaker 1: Apstra remains the only open fabric management platform on the market which is not only creating software-only management opportunities but also driving full-stack data center wins. We're investing in sales enablement and the tools needed to accelerate our Apstra-driven success during the upcoming year.

<unk> remains the only open fabric management platform on the market, which is not only creating software only management opportunities, but also driving full stack data center wins.

Vesting and sales enablement and the tools needed to accelerate our Astra driven success during the upcoming year.

Speaker 1: Customer interest in our cloud ready data center portfolio is high and we continue to be optimistic about the growth prospects for this business in the upcoming year.

Customer interest in our cloud ready data center portfolio was high and we continue to be optimistic about the growth prospects for this business in the upcoming year.

Speaker 1: Our security revenue was essentially flat in Q4, but orders saw double-digit year-over-year growth. We remain confident in our connected security strategy and believe the convergence of networking and security provides us with a competitive advantage in the portions of the market where we are currently focused.

Our security revenue was essentially flat in Q4, but orders saw double digit year over year growth. We remain confident in our connected security strategy and believe the convergence of networking and security provides us with a competitive advantage and the portions of the market where we are currently focused.

Speaker 1: We believe our technical strength in both security and networking will continue to provide tailwinds in future quarters and should enable us to grow our security business during the current year.

We believe our technical strength in both security and networking will continue to provide tailwind in future quarters and should enable us to grow our security business during the current year.

Speaker 1: I'd like to mention that our services team delivered another impressive quarter, and our services business continues to grow year-over-year due to record renewals and strong attach rates. Our customer satisfaction scores once again set new all-time highs, and our service margins came in better than expected due to higher revenue and lower costs.

I'd like to mention that our services team delivered another impressive quarter and our services business continues to grow year over year due to record renewals and strong attach rates our customer satisfaction scores. Once again set new all time high and our service margins came in better than expected due to her.

Higher revenue and lower costs on.

Speaker 1: On a full-year basis, our service margins achieved a new all-time record of 65.8 percent, up 170 basis points as compared to the prior year.

On a full year basis, our service margins achieved a new all time record of 65, 8% up 170 basis points as compared to the prior year.

Speaker 1: Our services organization continues to execute extremely well and is focused on driving incremental efficiency through automation and cloud-delivered insights to not only create new revenue opportunities, but also benefit margin and customer experience.

Our services organization continues to execute extremely well and is focused on driving incremental efficiency through automation and cloud delivered insights that not only create new revenue opportunity, but it also benefit margin and customer experience.

Speaker 1: Before I conclude, I'd like to state that our mission at Juniper is to power connections and empower change. Now, more than ever, we are committed to ensuring networking is a force for good in this world. That includes building global resilience to combat climate risk throughout our business and supply chain and enabling solutions for a low carbon future.

Before I conclude I would like to state that our mission at Juniper is to power connections and empower change now more than ever we are committed to ensuring networking as a force for good in this world.

That includes building global resilience to come back climate risk throughout our business and supply chain and enabling solutions for a low carbon future.

Speaker 1: We continue to make, monitor and report our environmental, social and governance progress through our annual Corporate Social Responsibility Report and CDP responses. Today, we are responding to the need for urgent and bold action. We're committing our global facilities to be carbon neutral by 2025. You can follow our progress on our new climate web page, juniper.net forward slash climate.

We continue to make monitor and report our environmental social and governance progress through our annual corporate social responsibility report and CDP responses.

We are responding to the need for urgent and bold action, we're committing our global facilities to be carbon neutral by 2025, you can follow our progress on our new climate webpage Juniper Dot net forward slash climate.

Speaker 1: I would like to extend my thanks to our customers, partners, and shareholders for their continued support and confidence in Juniper. I especially want to thank our employees for their hard work and dedication, which is essential to creating value for our stakeholders. I will now turn the call over to Ken, who will discuss our quarterly financial results in more detail. Thank you, Rami.

I'd like to extend my thanks to our customers partners and shareholders for their continued support and confidence in juniper.

Especially want to thank our employees for their hard work and dedication, which is essential to creating value for our stakeholders I will now turn the call over to Ken who will discuss our quarterly financial results in more detail.

Thank you Rami and good afternoon, everyone.

Speaker 2: I will start by discussing our fourth quarter results, and then cover the fiscal year 2021, and end with some color on our outlook.

I will start by discussing our fourth quarter results and then cover the fiscal year 2021.

And with some color on our outlook.

We ended the fourth quarter of 2021 $1.300 billion of revenue.

Speaker 2: We ended the fourth quarter of 2021 at $1,300,000,000 of revenue and non-GAAP earnings per share of 56 cents.

And non-GAAP earnings per share of 56.

Both above the midpoint of guidance.

Speaker 2: Revenue grew 6% year-over-year and 9% sequentially.

Revenue grew 6% year over year and 9% sequentially.

Speaker 2: exceeding our expectations despite the challenging supply chain environment.

Exceeding our expectations, despite the challenging supply chain environment.

Speaker 2: These strong results were driven by solid execution by our global team.

These strong results were driven by solid execution by our global team.

During the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2: During the fourth quarter, we continued to see significant order growth across all verticals, geographies, and customer solutions.

Significant order growth across all vertical geographies and customer solutions.

Speaker 2: growth orders saw a third consecutive quarter of greater than 50% year-over-year growth.

Gross orders saw a third consecutive quarter of greater than 50% year over year growth.

Some of this order strength was attributable to ongoing industry supply chain challenges, causing certain customers that place orders early in an effort to secure supply when needed.

Speaker 2: Some of this order strength was attributable to ongoing industry supply chain challenges causing certain customers to place orders early in an effort to secure supply when needed.

Speaker 2: Even after adjusting for these early orders, total product orders are estimated to have grown in the high teens year over year.

Even after adjusting for these early order total product orders are estimated to have grown in the high teens year over year.

Speaker 2: Due to the strength in orders and the continued constraints related to component supply.

Due to the strength in orders and the continued constraints related to component supply.

Speaker 2: end of the year with record backlog of more than 1.8 billion dollars.

We ended the year with record backlog of more than one 8 billion.

Speaker 2: Looking at our revenue by vertical, on a year-over-year basis, cloud grew 19%.

Looking at our revenue by vertical on a year over year basis cloud grew 19%.

Speaker 2: Service provider grew 8% and enterprise decreased 3%.

Service provider grew 8% and enterprise decreased 3%.

Speaker 2: While enterprise revenue declined year-over-year due to the timing of shipments, enterprise orders posted strong double-digit year-over-year growth and exceeded our expectations.

While enterprise revenue declined year over year due to the timing of shipments enterprise orders posted strong double digit year over year growth.

Exceeded our expectations.

Speaker 2: Turning to customer solutions on a year-over-year basis, AI-driven enterprise grew 29%.

Turning to customer solutions on a year over year basis, AI, driven enterprise grew 29%.

Speaker 2: Automated WAN solutions grew 8% and cloud-ready data center revenue declined 9%.

Automated Wan solutions grew 8% and cloud data center revenue declined 9%.

Speaker 2: This decline was entirely due to timing of shipments as cloud-ready data center orders experienced strong double-digit order growth year over year.

This decline was entirely due to timing of shipments as cloud ready data center orders experienced strong double digit order growth year over year.

Speaker 2: Total software and related services revenue was $242 million, an increase of 41% versus the fourth quarter of last year.

Total software and related services revenue was $242 million, an increase of 41% versus the fourth quarter of last year.

Speaker 2: Annual Return Revenue, or ARR, grew 32% year-over-year, and we exited the year with $206 million in ARR.

Annual recurring revenue or <unk> grew.

<unk> grew 32% year over year, and we exited the year with $206 million in IRR.

Speaker 2: This strength reflects our efforts to transform to a more software-centric business.

This strength reflects our efforts to transform to a more software centric business.

Speaker 2: Total security revenue was $162 million flat year-over-year due to the timing of shipments, but product orders posted strong growth year-over-year.

Total security revenue was $162 million flat year over year due to the timing of shipments, but product orders posted strong growth year over year.

Speaker 2: In reviewing our top 10 customers for the quarter, four were cloud, five were service provider, and one was an enterprise.

In reviewing our top 10 customers for the quarter four were cloud fiber service provider and one was in enterprise.

Speaker 2: Our top 10 customers accounted for 33% of total revenue as compared to 30% in the fourth quarter last year.

Our top 10 customers accounted for 33% of total revenue as compared to 30% in the fourth quarter last year.

Speaker 2: non-GAAP gross margin was 59.5% in the fourth quarter, which was above our guidance midpoint, primarily driven by favorable product and soft.

non-GAAP gross margin was 59, 5% in the fourth quarter.

It was above our guidance midpoint, primarily driven by favorable product and software mix.

Speaker 2: If not for elevated COVID-19 related costs, we anticipate that we would have posted non-GAAP gross margin of approximately 61.7 percent.

If not for elevated COVID-19 related costs, we anticipate that we would have posted non-GAAP gross margin of approximately 61, 7%.

Speaker 2: Non-gap operating expenses increased 8% year-over-year and 4% sequentially.

non-GAAP operating expenses increased 8% year over year and 4% sequentially.

Speaker 2: The higher than anticipated costs were due to a one-time $5 million

Higher than anticipated costs were due to a one time $5 million expense.

Speaker 2: related to the postponement of our sales kickoff event as a result of the recent surge of COVID-19 cases.

Related to the postponement of our sales kickoff event as a result of the recent surge of COVID-19 cases.

We exited the quarter with total cash cash equivalents and investments of $1 7 billion.

Speaker 2: We exited the quarter with total cash, cash equivalents, and investments of $1.7 billion.

Speaker 2: Cash flow from operations was $116 million for the quarter.

Cash flow from operations was $116 million for the quarter.

Speaker 2: We paid $64 million in dividends, reflecting a quarterly dividend of $0.20 per share.

We paid $64 million in dividends, reflecting a quarterly dividend of <unk> 20 per share.

Speaker 2: We also repurchased $148 million worth of shares in the quarter.

We also repurchased $148 million worth of shares in the quarter.

Moving on to full year results.

Speaker 2: Total revenue for 2021 was $4,735,000,000, which was up 7% versus 2020.

Total revenue for 2021 with $4 billion $735 million, which was up 7% versus 2020.

Despite the pandemic and supply chain constraints, we saw growth across all of our verticals customer solutions and geographies.

Speaker 2: Despite the pandemic and supply chain constraints, we saw growth across all of our verticals, customer solutions, and geography.

Speaker 2: Our cloud business grew 14% while service provider and enterprise both grew 4% compared to last year.

Our cloud business grew 14%.

Service provider and enterprise, both grew 4% compared to last year.

Speaker 2: From a customer solution perspective, AI-driven enterprise increased 27%.

From a customer solution perspective.

You have an enterprise increased 27%.

Speaker 2: Cloud-ready data center grew 7% and automated WAN solutions grew 3% on a full year basis.

Cloud ready data center grew 7% and automated Wan solutions grew 3% on a full year basis.

The top line strength, we experienced across the verticals and customer solutions was driven by the technology investments, we have made as well as our focus on transforming our go to market organization.

Speaker 2: The top line strength we experienced across verticals and customer solutions was driven by the technology investments we have made as well as our focus on transforming our go-to-market organization.

Speaker 2: The total software and related services revenue was $761 million, an increase of 42% year-over-year.

Total software and related services revenue was $751 million, an increase of 42% year over year.

Exceeding our expectations.

Speaker 2: Total security revenue was $657 million, which grew 8% year over year.

Total security revenue was $657 million, which grew 8% year over year.

Speaker 2: charity product revenue was up 14% year over year.

Security product revenue was up 14% year over year.

Speaker 2: In reviewing our top ten customers for the year, five were cloud, four were service provider, and one was an enterprise.

In reviewing our top 10 customers for the year five were cloud.

Or were service provider and one was in enterprise.

Speaker 2: Our top 10 customers accounted for 31% of our total 2021 revenue as compared to 30% in 2020.

Our top 10 customers accounted for 31% of our total 2021 revenue as compared to 30% in 2020.

Speaker 2: Non-gap gross margin expanded by 50 basis points versus last year primarily driven by service gross margin

non-GAAP gross margin expanded by 50 basis points versus last year.

Primarily driven by service gross margin expansion.

Speaker 2: If not for elevated COVID-19 related supply costs, we estimate we would have posted non-GAAP gross margin of approximately 61% in 2021.

If not for elevated COVID-19 related supply costs. We estimate we would have posted non-GAAP gross margin of approximately 61% in 2021.

Speaker 2: 2021 operating expenses increased 7% on a non-gap basis.

2021, operating expenses increased 7% on a non-GAAP basis.

Speaker 2: primarily due to higher variable compensation and the cost associated with the acquisitions of NetRounds, 128 Technology, and AppStore.

Merrily due to higher variable compensation and the cost associated with the acquisitions of net round 128 technology and abstract.

Despite these increased costs operating margin increased to 15, 9% an improvement of 40 basis points versus last year.

Speaker 2: Despite these increased costs, operating margin increased to 15.9 percent, an improvement of 40 basis points.

Speaker 2: non-GAAP diluted earnings per share was $1.74, an increase of 12% compared to 2020.

non-GAAP diluted earnings per share it was a $1 74.

An increase of 12% compared to 2020.

Speaker 2: For the year, we had cash flow from operations of $690 million, an increase of $78 million compared to 2020.

For the year, we had cash flow from operations of $690 million, an increase of $78 million compared to 2020.

Speaker 2: We repurchased $433 million worth of shares and paid $259 million in dividends for a total capital return of 117% of free cash flow to shareholders during 2020.

We repurchased.

$433 million worth of shares and paid $259 million in dividends for a total capital return of 117% of free cash flow to shareholders during 2021.

Speaker 2: very pleased with our financial performance both in the fourth quarter and 2021.

I'm very pleased with our financial performance, both in the fourth quarter and 2021.

Speaker 2: The performance is a testament to our team's dedication and resiliency through these challenging and dynamic times.

The performance is a testament to our team's dedication and resiliency through these challenging and dynamic times.

Speaker 2: Now I would like to provide some color on our guidance, which you could find detailed in the CFO commentary available on our investor relations website.

Now I'd like to provide some color on our guidance, which you could find detailed in the CFO commentary available on our Investor Relations website.

Speaker 2: We expect first quarter revenue of $1,150,000,000, plus or minus $50,000,000, which is growth of 7%.

We expect first quarter revenue of $1 billion $150 million plus or.

$50 million.

Which is growth of 7% year over year.

Speaker 2: We are still experiencing significant supply chain related headwinds associated with rising component and elevated freight costs, which are expected to continue at least through the first half of the year.

We are still experiencing significant supply chain related headwinds associated with rising component.

Weighted freight costs, which are expected to continue at least through the first half of the year.

Speaker 2: While we have taken pricing actions to offset these headwinds, we do not expect these actions to have an impact until later in the year.

While we are taking pricing actions to offset these headwinds we do not expect these actions to have an impact until later in the year.

Speaker 2: Therefore, we expect first quarter non-GASGOS margin of approximately 58 percent, plus or minus a percent, a sequential decrease.

Therefore, we expect first quarter non-GAAP gross margin of approximately 58%.

Plus or minus 8% sequential decrease.

Speaker 2: Our non-GAAP earnings per share is expected to be approximately $0.31, plus or minus $0.05.

Our non-GAAP earnings per share is expected to be approximately 31 stack.

Plus or minus five.

Speaker 2: assuming a share count of approximately $332 million.

Assuming a share count of approximately $332 million.

Speaker 2: turning to our expectations for the full year of 2022.

Turning to our expectations for the full year of 2022.

Speaker 2: Given the strong order momentum we are experiencing and our exiting backlog, we are updating our revenue growth expectations for 2022 from at least mid-single digits to 7 to 9 percent growth.

Given the strong order momentum, we are experiencing and our exiting backlog we are updating our revenue growth expectations for 2022 from at least mid single digits, two 7% to 9% growth.

Speaker 2: This guidance assumes the current supply chain environment remains constrained throughout the year, similar to current levels, and does not further deteriorate.

This guidance assumes the current supply chain environment remains constrained throughout the year similar to current levels and does not further deteriorate.

Beyond the first quarter, we expect revenue to grow sequentially throughout the course of the year.

Speaker 2: Beyond the first quarter, we expect revenue to grow sequentially throughout the course of the year. We expect supply chain constraints to be particularly tight during the first half and remain challenged throughout the remainder of the year.

We expect supply chain constraints to be particularly tight during the first half and remained challenged throughout the remainder of the year.

Speaker 2: We also anticipate backlog to remain at elevated levels and largely unchanged throughout the year.

We also anticipate backlog to remain at elevated levels and largely unchanged throughout the year.

Speaker 2: While non-GAAP gross margin can be difficult to predict, we expect full year gross margin of 58 to 60 percent, which is a slight decline from

While non-GAAP gross margin can be difficult to predict we expect full year gross margin of 58% to 60%.

Which is a slight decline from 2021 levels.

Speaker 2: We expect gross margin for the first half of the year to be at the lower end of the range due to the elevated cost of components and logistics.

We expect gross margin for the first half of the year to be at the lower end of the range due to the elevated cost of components and logistics.

Speaker 2: I'd like to mention that we see potential for non-GAAP gross margins to trend to the high end of the range in the second half of the year as volume increases and the pricing actions we have taken flow through to the results.

I'd like to mention that we see potential for non-GAAP gross margin to trend to the high end of the range in the second half of the year as volume increases and the pricing actions, we have taken it flow through to the results.

We remain committed to disciplined expense management and full year non-GAAP operating margin is expected to expand by at least 100 basis points versus 2021.

Speaker 2: We remain committed to disciplined expense management and full year non-gap operating margins expected to expand by at least 100 basis points versus 2021.

Speaker 2: That said, we will continue to invest to take advantage of market opportunities, and non-GAAP operating expense is expected to be up on a four-year basis, consistent with the guidance we provided during our third quarter 2021 earnings announcement.

That said, we will continue to invest to take advantage of market opportunities and non-GAAP operating expense is expected to be up on a full year basis consistent with the guidance. We provided during our third quarter 2021 earnings announcements.

Speaker 2: Our non-GAAP tax rate on worldwide earnings is expected to be 20%, plus or minus 1%.

Our non-GAAP tax rate on worldwide earnings is expected to be 20% plus or minus 1%.

Speaker 2: And our non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow faster than revenue on a full year basis.

And our non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow faster than revenue on a full year basis.

Speaker 2: Finally, I am pleased to announce we have declared a 5% increase in our quarterly cash dividend to $0.21 per share to be paid this quarter to stockholders of record.

Finally, I'm pleased to announce we have declared a 5% increase in our quarterly cash dividend to <unk> 21 per share.

If you paid this quarter to stockholders of record.

Speaker 2: In closing, I would like to thank our team for their continued dedication and commitment to Juniper's success, especially in this challenging environment. Now I'll turn it over to you.

In closing I would like to thank our team for their continued dedication and commitment to juniper success.

Actually in this challenging environment.

Now I'd like to open the call for questions.

Speaker 3: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. The floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments, please indicate so by pressing star one. Lastly, while posing your question, please pick up your handset if listening on speaker phone to provide optimum sound quality. Please hold while we pray for questions. And the first question is coming up.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments. Please indicate so by pressing star. One lastly, while posing your question. Please pickup your handset up listing on speaker phone to provide optimum sound quality. Please hold while we poll for questions and the first question is coming from Tim long from Barclays.

Tim Your line is live.

Speaker 4: Thank you. I did want to, you know, follow up on the orders here. Rami, if you could just talk a little bit about, you know, still, you know, over 50%, but a little down from the prior quarter. So, if you talk a little bit about what you're hearing from customers, are they, you know, not buying out as, or ordering out as far as they were previously? And how do you see, you know, do you see the orders will be volatile and correct, but how do you see kind of shifting?

Thank you.

Just wanted to follow up on the orders here.

Just talk a little bit about.

Still.

Over 50% a little down from the prior quarters. So can you talk a little bit about what you're hearing from customers.

Are they buying out.

Ordering out as far as they were previously and how do you see do you see the orders will be volatile and correct, but how do you see kind of shipments.

Speaker 4: for a lot of some of these larger companies as you go forward. And then second, for the follow-up, just touch on the service provider business, which seems to have turned around pretty nicely this year. It seems like most are expecting a pretty solid, you know, next few years there as well. So, can you just touch on your outlook there and particularly, you know, as you push more into the metro edge? Thank you.

For a lot of some of these larger companies as you go forward and then second for the follow up.

Touch on the service provider business, which seems to have turned around pretty nicely. This year.

Like most are expecting a pretty solid.

The next few years, there as well so can you just touch on your outlook, there and particularly.

You push more into the metro edge. Thank you.

Speaker 1: Yep, certainly. Thanks for the questions, Tim. So I'll start with the first one around order momentum. And I'll just say that orders have been strong for the last year, the last three quarters, over 50 percent year of year growth in orders.

Certainly thanks for the question, Tim So I'll start with the first one around the order momentum and I will just say that orders.

Have been strong for the last year, the last three quarters over 50% year over year growth in orders and.

Speaker 1: And they remain strong, you know, now, our order of momentum, what we're seeing in the market, the opportunity out there is very solid, very encouraging.

<unk> remains strong.

Now our order momentum and what we're seeing in the market the opportunity out there is very solid very encouraging and it's true across all of our key strategic vertical market segments cloud SP and enterprise. So I'd love to be able to say that we're going to continue to see over 50% year over year growth on our <unk>.

Speaker 1: And it's true across all of our key strategic vertical market segments, cloud, SP and enterprise. So, you know, I'd love to be able to say that we're going to continue to see over 50% year over year growth on a continuous basis forever. I mean, that's unrealistic.

Continuous basis forever, I mean, thats unrealistic, we have been clear that there is a certain amount of early ordering that's happened over the last year and that will eventually we don't know exactly when but will eventually start to gradually decline, but that said and as adjusted basis, our organic ordered the true reflection.

Speaker 1: We have been clear that there is a certain amount of early ordering.

Speaker 1: that happened over the last year, and that will eventually, we don't know exactly when, but will eventually start to gradually decline. But that said, on an adjusted basis, our organic order, the true reflection of the health of the business.

<unk> of the health of the business will grow this year and that's because of the strong demand environment. In addition, I think to the great differentiation that we enjoy in our solutions on the SP side of the house very pleased with the performance that we're seeing in our business.

Speaker 1: will grow this year, and that's because of the strong demand environment in addition, I think, to the great differentiation that we enjoy in our solution.

Speaker 1: On the SP side of the house, I'm very pleased with the performance that we're seeing in our business. Orders grew well into double-digit territory in the Q4 timeframe. Revenue grew 8% year-over-year. Orders for a full-year basis was also very solid. We're exiting 2021 with record backlog in this area as well.

Orders grew well into double digit territory in the Q4 timeframe revenue grew 8% year over year orders for a full year basis was also very solid.

We're exiting 2021 with record backlog in this area as well.

Speaker 1: The strength has to do with the broad-based nature of our go-to-market focus, so it's not just Tier 1 carriers here in North America where we are actually seeing some encouraging momentum but also Tier 2, Tier 3, cable, and international accounts.

Strength has to do with the broad based nature of our go to market focus. So it's not just tier one carrier here in North America, where we are actually seeing some encouraging momentum, but also tier two tier three cable and international accounts.

Speaker 1: 400 gig, which we've talked about a lot as an opportunity, it doesn't only apply to the cloud provider space. There are some significant opportunities out in the service provider space, especially in the core segment. And we're winning a good amount of those opportunities right now. And I think that will bode well for us in terms of tailwinds.

400 gig, which we've talked about as an opportunity.

It doesn't only apply to the cloud provider space. There are some significant opportunities out in the service provider space, especially in the core.

Segment, and we are winning.

Good amounts of those opportunities right now and I think that will bode well for us in terms of tailwind for revenue in the future and last but not least you touched on metro.

Speaker 1: for revenue in the future. And last but not least, you touched on Metro. You know, if you think about the part of the network that will benefit the most from 5G RAN deployments that are happening today, it will be the Metro, which is why we've made a strategic decision to invest in this space.

If you think about the part of the network that will benefit the most from five G ran deployments that are happening today. It will be the metro which is why we've made a strategic decision to invest in this space.

Speaker 1: Um, and we don't yet have the complete portfolio, but we have certainly seen encouraging signs that we're on to something and something significant. And just as a data point that I tell you that our metro focus.

And we don't yet have the complete portfolio, but we have certainly seen encouraging signs that we're on to something and something significant and just as a data point that I would tell you that our metro focused aggregation switch, which is the ACX family of products.

Speaker 1: aggregation switch, which is the ACX family of products, now hit for the first time $100 million in Booking's run rate in Q4.

Now hit for the first time, a $100 million in bookings run rate in Q4, and Thats without a complete solution, which I anticipate we will have by the end of this year. So that's a very encouraging data point that suggests that we should see some good tailwind from the metro opportunity later, this year and especially next year.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3: Of course. Okay. The next question is coming from George Notter from Jeffries. George, your line is live.

Of course, Okay. The next question is coming from George Notter from Jefferies. George Your line is live.

Yes.

Speaker 3: Hi guys, thanks very much. I guess I wanted to ask about your pricing increases. I heard what you said in terms of the timing of those coming in later in the year, but could you just talk about customer receptivity? I would imagine that some of your enterprise customers are a bit easier in terms of taking pricing, but maybe more of a negotiation on service provider and cloud. Could you just kind of walk through what you are seeing there?

Hi, guys. Thanks, very much I guess I wanted to ask about your pricing increases I heard what you said in terms of the timing of those coming in later in the year, but could you just talk about customer receptivity I would imagine that some of your enterprise customers are a bit easier.

In terms of taking pricing, but maybe more of a negotiation on service provider and cloud can you just kind of walk through like what Youre seeing there.

Yes, Thanks, George I think I mean your <unk>.

Speaker 2: what you're imagining is largely playing out. I mean, we did do the pricing increases last year that we referred to. You know, I would say customers, you know, aren't happy about price increases. I think that's kind of an obvious statement, but they are understanding, right? And for the vast majority of the cases, we are able to implement the pricing actions as we expected to. So feel good about what we've done, feel good about the market reception overall, and it should pay off for us, you know, as that starts to roll through the top line, which we anticipate in more of that rolling in the second half of this year.

Youre imagining is largely playing out I mean, we did do the pricing increases last year that we referred to.

I would say customers arent happy about price increases I think that's kind of an obvious statement, but they are understanding it right and for the vast majority of the cases, we are able to implement the pricing actions as we expected to so feel good about what we've done feel good about the market reception overall and it should pay off for us as that starts to roll through the top line, which we anticipate.

They are growing in the second half of this year.

Speaker 2: Got it. And then the service provider and cloud provider, you know, pricing negotiations. So I guess to underline this, they are taking higher pricing from you guys. Is that is that fair? Yeah, it is fair. I mean, we are doing it, you know, deal by deal and sometimes customer by customer situations. But we are seeing acceptance across the board.

Got it and then the service provider and cloud provider.

Pricing negotiations, so just to underline that.

Are taking higher pricing from you guys is that is that fair.

Yes. It is fair I mean, we are doing it deal by deal and sometimes customer by customer situations, but we are seeing acceptance across the board.

Speaker 3: And then anything you can tell us about, if I remember correctly, you guys raised pricing initially back in Q2 of last year, or maybe towards the tail end of Q2 last year. Should those pricing increases be benefiting you earlier this year?

And then anything you can tell us about if I remember correctly you guys raised pricing initially back in Q2 of last year, maybe towards the tail end of Q2 last year.

Should those pricing increases be benefiting you earlier this year.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did we did an action in the first half of last year late around June . There was, you know, a partial action, if you will, it didn't impact all of our products. The action we took in Q4 was more expansive and impact all of our hardware products, so we did take two actions. We are seeing some of the realization from the first action, but the second action was, I think, would be more impactful for us. Got it, okay.

Yeah. So we did we did an action in the first half of last year around June there was a partial action. If you will it didn't impact all of our products. The action. We took in Q4 was more expansive and impacted all of our hardware products. So we didn't take two actions. We are seeing some of the realization from the first action, but the second action was I think it would be more impactful for us.

Got it okay, great. Thanks very much.

Sure.

Yeah.

Speaker 3: Okay, the next question is coming from Simon Leopold from Raymond James.

Okay. The next question is coming from Simon Leopold from Raymond James Your line is live.

Speaker 3: Thanks for taking the question. I want to see if maybe you could unpack the cloud vertical a little bit more.

Thanks for taking the question I wanted to see if maybe you could unpack the cloud vertical a little bit more.

Speaker 5: in terms of maybe some color on the behaviors of what you guys have termed the cloud majors.

In terms of maybe some color on the behaviors of what you guys have termed the cloud majors.

Speaker 5: as opposed to the hyperscalers, just give us some sense of what the contributions are like and if there are differences in their trend. And just as an easy follow-up, within the forecast with 7 to 9 percent sales growth, how much of that are you assuming is coming from the price increases? Thank you.

As opposed to the.

The hyperscale.

Just give us some sense of what the contributions are like and if there are differences in their trend and just an easy follow up within the.

The forecast for 7% to 9% sales growth.

How much of that are you assuming is coming from the price increases. Thank you.

Speaker 1: Thanks for the question, Simon. Let me start on the question around the cloud and then I'll hand it over to Ken to talk about the contribution of price increases to our revenue growth this year.

Thanks for the question Simon Let me start on the question around the cloud and then I'll hand, it over to Ken to talk about the.

The price increases to our revenue growth this year.

So.

Speaker 1: I'm delighted with the momentum we continue to see in our cloud vertical. I think

I'm delighted with the momentum we continue to see in our cloud vertical.

Speaker 1: The thing that I like the most about what we're seeing in this area is the diversity of the success that we're seeing, not just within.

Think that the.

Thing that I like the most about what we're seeing in this area is the diversity of the success that we're seeing not just within the Hyperscale and the cloud merger of cloud majors are between those two within each of those categories. So in Hyperscale as we've traditionally as you all know had a very large customer.

Speaker 1: the hyperscalers and the cloud majors, or between those two, it's within each of those categories. So in hyperscalers.

Speaker 1: We traditionally, as you all know, had a very large customer that generated a lot of the growth over the last several years. It's now really much more distributed across a number of significant hyperscale accounts, and I think that speaks to the strength of our footprint, the strength of our technology, and the engagement, the solid engagement that we have with the hyperscale accounts.

That generated a lot of the growth over the last several years. It's now really much more distributed across a number of significant hyperscale accounts and I think that speaks to the strength of our footprint the strength of our technology and the engagement the solid engagements that we have with the Hyperscale accounts. We have in addition to high.

Speaker 1: We have, in addition to hyperscale, been very much focused on broadening within

<unk> been very much focused on broadening within the tier two cloud provider space in what we call the cloud major space and we've made really great progress. The good news is much of the technology that we developed for Hyperscale applies very much to cloud majors, including a lot of the 400 gig wide area networking.

Speaker 1: the tier two cloud provider space, or what we call the cloud major space, and we've made really great progress. The good news is, much of the technology that we develop for Hyperscale applies very much to cloud majors, including a lot of the 400 gig wide area networking and data center investments.

Datacenter investment, but in addition to that our automation portfolio. So the abstract technology that makes the act of developing deploying and running a data center very simple now actually had strong applicability to our cloud majors.

Speaker 1: But in addition to that, our automation portfolio, so the abstract technology that, you know, makes the act of developing or deploying and running a data center very simple.

Speaker 1: now actually has strong applicability to our cloud majors segment.

Speaker 1: So it really is strength across the board, and I'm delighted to see the momentum that we have here.

So it really is strength across the board.

I'm delighted to see the momentum that we have here and on the pricing action. We have considered that when we provided the guidance of 7% to 9% growth this year.

Speaker 6: Yeah, and on the pricing action, we have considered that when we provided the guidance of 7 to 9% growth this year, and we haven't quantified exactly how much it is. But just to let, you know, the majority, you know, the reason why we did the pricing action was really to offset as much of the price increases as we can. So it's really more about protecting margin and trying to offset some of those margin headwinds. It will result in some revenue growth, obviously, and it is factored into the overall guide. Thank you. Thank you.

We haven't quantified exactly how much it is but just to let you know the majority of the reason why we did the pricing action was really to offset as much of the price increases as we can so it's really more about protecting margins and trying to offset some of those margin headwinds will result in some revenue growth, obviously and it is factored into the overall guidance.

Thank you.

Thank you okay.

The next question is coming from Tao Liana.

Your line is live.

Hi.

Speaker 7: I have just one quick follow-up question before I ask my other question. The F5, when they reported, they.

I have just one quick follow up question before I ask my other question that they are.

At five when they reported they said that there was.

Speaker 7: a further deterioration in the last 30 days of the quarter when it comes to getting specialized networking gear like FPGAs.

A further deterioration in the last 30 days of the quarter when it comes to getting specialized networking gear like FPGA and Cpus and others.

Speaker 7: Do you see the same deterioration in the ability to source supplies?

Do you see the same deterioration in the ability to source supplies.

Speaker 7: components, or do you see the same environment today as it was before?

Components or or do you see same environment today as it was before.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't seen anything notable in the last 30 days. I would say we've seen, you know, pretty constant supply constraints for the last, you know, a few quarters, right? So we've seen, I'm not going to say it's a good environment. It still remains constrained, but we haven't seen anything noticeable in the last 30 days.

Yes, we haven't seen anything notable in the last 30 days I would say, we've seen a pretty constant supply constraints for the last.

A few quarters right. So we've seen I'm not going to say, it's a good environment still remains constrained, but we havent seen anything noticeable in the last 30 days.

Speaker 2: You know, we expect lead times to remain extended and we expect the cost obviously is definitely going up and the cost of components, et cetera. The one thing I will point out, although we comment that it's going to be, you know, remain constrained for the year, particularly in the first half, we do believe we have line of sight to absolute volume increases year over year, right? I mean, we're guiding to a full year growth of 7 to 9% revenue growth. So at this point in time, even with the constrained environment and we're not getting as much supplies we would like to get, we do believe we're getting enough to satisfy that revenue outlook.

We expect lead times remain extended and we expect the cost obviously is definitely going up in cost of components et cetera.

One thing I will point out, although we comment that it's going to be remain constrained for the year, particularly in the first half. We do believe we have line of sight to absolute volume increases year over year right. I mean, we're guiding to a full year growth of 7% to 9% revenue growth. So at this point in time, even with the constrained environment and we're not getting as much supply as we would like to get we do believe we are getting it.

<unk> to satisfy that revenue outlook.

Speaker 8: Got it.

Got it.

I wanted to ask you about market share specifically in routing.

Speaker 7: I want to ask you about market share, specifically in routing.

Speaker 7: So, the environment is getting better. You spoke about new products in certain areas. Can you talk about, maybe break it down, your expectations, areas where you expect to gain share in routing, and areas where you don't expect market share, like unique market dynamics? And I'm referring to end markets, like cloud, enterprise, service providers, cloud, et cetera.

So the environment is getting better you spoke about new products in certain areas can you talk about maybe breaking down your expectations areas, where you expect to gain share in routing and areas, where you don't expect market share like unique market dynamics.

And I'm, referring to end markets like cloud enterprise.

Service providers cloud et cetera.

Speaker 7: So I want to make sure I understand the question. Are you referring to the service provider segment specifically and then sort of different layers or opportunities within the service provider space? Or are you really talking about service provider cloud and enterprise as three separate segments? We can take it anywhere. I'm trying to...

So I want to make sure I understand the question are you referring to the service provider segment, specifically, and then sort of different layers or opportunities within the service provider space are you really talking about service provider cloud and enterprise of three separate segments. We can take it anywhere I'm trying to take the routing market.

Speaker 7: take the routing market after being down for so many years and I understand there's going to be a cycle now, I'm trying to break it down and I'm trying to understand what are the areas, and you can take it anywhere you want, what are the areas where you expect growth and expect share gains and what are the areas where you believe that the market dynamics will remain kind of the same as before.

After being down for sort of flat to down for so many years and I understand there's going to be a cycle now I'm trying to break it down and I'm trying to understand what are the areas and you can take it anywhere you want what are the areas, where you expect growth and expect share gains and what are the areas, where you believe that the market dynamics will remain kind of the same as before.

Speaker 1: Got it. Got it. Okay. So and specifically to routing. So in routing, whenever you're talking about routing, you should really be focusing on two market opportunities in particular, and that's cloud and SP. There is obviously also routing that goes into the enterprise space, but I think our key focus is on cloud and SP.

Got it got it okay, so and specifically to routing so in routing whenever you are talking about routing you should really be focusing on to market opportunities in particular, and Thats cloud and SP. There is obviously also routing that goes into the enterprise space, but I think our key focus is on cloud and SP, the big inflection point.

Speaker 1: The big inflection point that's happening right now in both of these segments is around 400 gigs.

It's happening right now in both of these segments is around 400 gig and that is an opportunity for us to take share in that area, but.

Speaker 1: And that is an opportunity for us to take share in that area. But in addition to that, specific to the SP, is the metro opportunity. So let's talk about 400 gig. I want to be very clear. I am very confident, based on order momentum, right? Not yet seen in revenue, because it's still early days in terms of shipping and deployments and building out these networks. But in terms of actual order momentum, where we've seen well over 50% growth for the last.

But in addition to that specific to the SP is the metro opportunity. So let's talk about 400 gig I wanted to be very clear.

Very confident based on order momentum right not yet seen in revenue because it's still early days in terms of shipping in deployments and building out these networks, but in terms of actual order momentum, where we've seen well over 50% growth for the last three quarters, we're taking share I'm very confident we're take.

Speaker 1: three quarters, we're taking share. I'm very confident we're taking share. And I'll add to that in the SBC.

Sure and I'll add to that in the SP space, The Metro where there is no way, but up for us because it's essentially a brand new market opportunity for us. It's the fastest growing subsegment of the routing opportunity within the <unk> space, because thats, where most of the <unk> traffic needs to flow through.

Speaker 1: the metro where there is no way but up for us because it's essentially a brand new market opportunity for us. It's the fastest growing sub-segment of the routing opportunity within the SB space because that's where most of the 5G traffic needs to flow through. That is another area where I'm very confident we will take share, especially as that portfolio comes together throughout this year.

That is another area, where I'm very confident we will take share, especially at that portfolio comes together.

Throughout this year.

Okay.

Speaker 9: Okay, the next question is coming from Paul Silverstein from Cowen. Your line is live. Yeah, to begin with I've got a broader question with respect to share gain versus market growth and I appreciate it's hard to delineate if not impossible But the strength you've been referencing across every aspect of your business Rami, how much of that do you attribute to

Okay. The next question is coming from Paul Silverstein from Cowen Your line is live.

To begin with I have got a broader question with respect to share gains versus market growth and I. Appreciate it's hard to delineate if not impossible, but the strength that you've been referencing across every aspect of your business Rami can how much of that to tribute.

Speaker 9: to a confluence of very strong trends within networking in virtually all of your customer markets, albeit of a different nature. And how much of that is the fact that in a number of cases such as with Mist for wireless LAN as well as the pull-through impact on other products, how much of it is a function of share gain? Any insight you can offer there before I have my follow-up?

<unk> and confluence of very strong trends within networking and virtually all of your customer markets, albeit of a different nature and how much of that is the fact that a number of cases, such as with mist for wireless Lan as well as well.

As the pull through impact on other products how much of it is a function of share gain any insight you can offer there before I have my follow up.

Speaker 1: So, Paul, I think you've touched on the one area, the AI-driven enterprise, and missed within that area, where I believe our competitive differentiation has never in the history of this company been this strong.

So Paul I think you've touched on the one area. So the AI driven enterprise and missed within that area, where I believe our competitive differentiation has never in the history of this company been this strong.

Speaker 1: And the order growth rates have been phenomenal, even in revenue for the Q4 time frame, we've posted strong revenue results. And for the full year, we've shown strong revenue results, even in the face of very...

And the order growth rates have been phenomenal even in revenue for the Q4 timeframe we posted strong.

Revenue results and for the full year, we've shown strong revenue results even in the face of very.

Speaker 1: difficult supply chain challenges that we have had to overcome.

Difficult supply chain challenges that we have had to overcome.

Speaker 1: There is a couple of key reasons for this. One is the strength of the technology, and we're sitting on some true underlying architectural differences in how we have built these solutions using a scale-out cloud-native architecture that can scale to the largest enterprises in the world.

There is a couple of key reasons for this one is the strength of the technology and we're sitting on some true underlying architectural differences and how we have built these solutions using our scale out cloud enabled native architecture that can scale to the largest enterprises in the world exceptional leadership and really.

Speaker 1: exceptional leadership and really solid sales execution because we've invested in our sales and our channel in our enablement team so, you know again very confident that we are taking share and I honestly think that that share taking can accelerate as more of those orders that we post to translate to actual revenue and we start to draw down the huge backlog that we built

Solid sales execution, because we've invested in our sales and our channel and our enablement.

Teams so.

Again, very confident that we are taking share and I honestly think that that share taking can accelerate as more of those orders that we posted translate to actual revenue and we start to draw down the <unk>.

<unk> backlog that we built.

Rami on the enterprise piece.

Speaker 9: Given your comments, in Arista, different details, but similar in terms of the strength they're seeing, and then Cisco being the largest, obvious largest incumbent, they're not, they've been very bullish about their business as well.

Given your comments and our risk through different <unk>, but similar in terms of the strength that we're seeing and then.

Cisco being the largest obvious large some comment there.

We've been very bullish about their business as well.

Speaker 9: Is a portion of this as we look out longer term beyond 2022 well beyond 2020.

As a portion of this as we look out longer term beyond 2022 will be on 2022.

Speaker 9: There's a lot of what's going on in enterprise from a market standpoint. Does this go back to when there was an incredibly pregnant pause that lasted for years, as many enterprises were not sure, were evaluating what to do with respect to cloud? How many applications to keep on-prem?

A lot of what's going on in enterprise from a market standpoint does this go back to when there was an incredibly program pause that lasted for years as many enterprises, we're not sure we're evaluating what to do with respect to cloud how many applications viewpoint prim, how much to move to public cloud.

Speaker 9: how much to move to public clouds, et cetera, in that caused a really pregnant pause in enterprise decision making with respect to network architecture and network deployment.

Cetera, and that caused really a pregnant pause and enterprise decision, making with respect to network architecture network deployment decisions are we now see the industry is seeing or are you and your peers are seeing the reverberation.

Speaker 9: Are you and your peers seeing the reverberation that that pause is past and now there's this multi-year investment cycle as enterprises catch up above and beyond the share gains that you've been representing?

Packed paws has passed and now there is this multi year investment cycle as enterprises catch up above and beyond the share gains that you've been referencing.

Speaker 1: It's a great question. First, I'll say, I'll sort of break it up into two timelines over the last couple of years.

It's a great question first I'll say I'll sort of break it up into two timelines over the last couple of years.

Speaker 1: there were certainly segments or elements of the enterprise that were actually affected. They experienced headwinds as a result of COVID. But we did a really nice job of pivoting to sub-segments that not only were not affected, but in some cases had to invest more. So take big box retailers, college campuses, public sector. I think those.

There were certainly segments are elements of the enterprise that were actually affected the experienced headwinds as a result of COVID-19 , but we did a really nice job of pivoting to sub segments that not only we're not affected but in some cases had to invest more so take big box retailers college campuses public.

Sector I think those sub segments experienced an increase in the need to look at networking more strategically and we captured that opportunity with really differentiated solutions now, let's look forward and as things start to normalize, albeit of course very gradually.

Speaker 1: subsegments experienced an increase in the need to look at networking more strategically. And we captured that opportunity with really differentiated solutions. Now let's look forward.

Speaker 1: things start to normalize, albeit, of course, very gradually. I don't think that enterprises and CIOs and CTOs of those enterprises are going to be rushing towards the legacy on-prem complexity of the past. They're looking for cloud-delivered, AI-driven solutions for the enterprise. They're also looking for simple data center operations.

I don't think the enterprises and CIO and CTO of those enterprises are going to be rushing towards the legacy on Prem complexity of the past Theyre looking for cloud delivered AI driven solutions for the enterprise. They're also looking for simple data center operations and I think honestly we are.

Speaker 1: And I think, honestly, we are best equipped to capture those inflection points. So, yes, I view that the tailwinds in the enterprise will only increase going forward relative to what we've experienced in the last couple of years. I'm talking about the market tailwinds here.

Best equipped to capture those inflection points. So yes, I view that the tailwind in the enterprise will only increase going forward relative to what we've experienced in the last.

A couple of years I'm talking about the market tailwind here.

Okay. The next question is coming from James Fish from Piper Sandler James Your line is live.

Speaker 3: The next question is coming from James Fish from Piper Sandler. James, your line is live.

Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions.

Speaker 9: not look great quarter I'm not going to try to pick on something but you know the one part we could is data center and security a little bit you know with security being roughly a quarter of that data center product

No.

Great quarter, I'm, not going to try to pick on something plus the one part we could as data centers and security a little bit.

Security being roughly a quarter of that data center product business.

Speaker 9: The security space hasn't been this strong in terms of the spending environment since arguably 2015 and I get, you know, orders are going.

Gary space hasn't been as strong in terms of the spending environment, arguably 2015, and I get orders are growing.

Speaker 10: are growing very nicely. But why is this business, as well as the switching side within that data center business, really not growing faster? Is it just prioritizing the other segments given higher cloud and service provider mix? And is there any way to break out what you would have grown in these segments this quarter, excluding the supply chain issues versus do we have a demand issue for Juniper?

Our growing very nicely, but why is this business as well as the switching side within that data center business not growing faster or is it just prioritizing the other segments given higher cloud and service provider mix and is there any way to breakout what you would've grown in these segments this quarter, excluding the supply chain issues versus do we have it.

Demand issue for Juniper security specifically.

Speaker 1: Okay, so I think the question, if I understood James, is both about around data center switching and sort of more broadly security. And let me first address the easier part of your question, which is the second part, everything would have grown if it weren't for supply chain constraints, literally everything, because we are currently supply chain constraints in terms of what we're able to ship. And of course, that ties to our revenue.

Okay. So I think the question if I understood. James is both about around data center switching and sort of more broadly security.

Let me first address the easier part of your question, which is the second part everything would've grown if it weren't for supply chain constraints.

Literally everything because we are currently supply chain constraints in terms of what we're able to ship in the fourth.

Ties to our revenue.

Speaker 1: Our data center switching business is performing.

Our data center switching business is performing very well.

Speaker 1: very well. Throughout all of last year, we have grown orders well into double-digit territory. Our revenue grew for the full year last year as well. Our revenue declined in the cloud-ready data center in Q4 purely because of the timing of orders relative to the availability of specific parts in this somewhat crazy world we live in from a supply chain standpoint. So honestly, I'm not concerned at all about demand.

Throughout all of last year, we have grown orders well into double digit territory. Our revenue grew for the full year last year as well our revenue declined and the cloud ready data center in Q4 purely because of the timing of orders relative to the availability of specific parts in this somewhat crazy world we.

From a supply chain standpoint, so honestly I don't I'm not concerned at all about demand or about the solutions that we have available to capture those demand and to compete with our peers in the industry on the security side. There again I think look at our security from two standpoints, there's sort of a.

Speaker 1: or about the solutions that we have available to capture those demand and to compete with you know our peers in the industry.

Speaker 1: There again, you know, I think look at our security from two standpoints. There's sort of a more mainstream, broad-based security that attaches to our enterprise offerings.

A more mainstream broad based security attach it to our enterprise offerings that actually grew very nicely. There is also a.

Speaker 1: That actually grew very nicely. There is also a larger high-performance security segment, which is really characterized with these very large high-performance products, our high-end SRX product lines, that are just lumpy. They're gonna vary from quarter to quarter. And you saw some of that in the Q4 timeframe. But again, the true reflection, I think, of the health of our security businesses and product orders, and that grew well into double-digit territory.

A larger high performance security segment, which is really characterized with these very large high performance products are high and Thats Rx product lines that are just lumpy, they're going to they're going to vary from quarter to quarter and youre going to you saw some of that in the Q4 timeframe, but again the true reflection I think of the health of our security businesses in product orders and that grew well.

Into double digit territory.

Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I would add on security front is if you take the full year view, you know, in our product business, security business grew 14%. So you are seeing this kind of an anomaly in any given 90-day period with the Q4 results. We're pretty pleased with the overall security performance throughout the course of the year.

Only thing I would add on security front is if you take the full year view.

Our product business security business grew 14%. So you are seeing just kind of an anomaly in any given 90 day period with the Q4 results were pretty pleased with the overall security performance throughout the course of the year.

Yes.

Speaker 3: Okay, the next question is coming from Alex Henderson from Needham. Alex, your line is live.

Okay. The next question is coming from Alex Henderson from Needham Alex Your line is lives.

Speaker 11: Great. Thank you very much. First off, I want to compliment you on the way you've handled the duration question versus, you know, the gross orders. It's a lot clearer than most other companies are handling it. And it's obviously very nice to see that acceleration from roughly 15% adjusted growth to high teens.

Great. Thank you very much.

First off I want to compliment you on the way of.

Handled the duration question versus.

Gross orders.

Unclear than most other companies are handling it.

And it's obviously very nice to see that acceleration from roughly 15%.

Adjusted gross to high teens.

Speaker 11: What I, my question though, is on the increase in the guidance for the full year, given you have.

My question, though is on the increase in the guidance for the full year.

Given you have already baked in the price hikes that you did last year Theres nothing has changed on that front.

Speaker 11: price hikes that you did last year. There's something's changed on that front.

Speaker 11: And given the commentary around the supply chain hasn't changed at all.

Given the commentary around the supply chain Hasnt changed at all.

Speaker 11: So, you've been, you know, very nice order growth, but you're still supply constrained.

So you've been very.

Very nice order growth that you are still supply constrained.

Speaker 11: So I guess the question is, what allows you to take your growth rate and revenues up?

The question is what allows you to take two.

The growth rate in revenues up.

Speaker 11: you know, from mid-singles to seven to nine if there's no improvement in availability. Is it a function of software having much higher growth and a shift towards software growth being higher? Is it a function of a mixed shift within what you're expecting? Is it a function of redesign? What allowed you to take...

From mid singles to seven benign if there's no improvement in availability is it a function of software having.

Having much higher growth.

And the shift towards software growth being higher is it a function of a mix shift within what you're expecting is.

Is it a function of redesign.

Allowed you to take the revenues up by a couple of two 3%.

Speaker 11: the revenues up by a couple of 2%, 3% with no change in outlook for supply chain improvements.

With no change in outlook for supply chain improvements.

Yes, no. Thanks for the question so.

Speaker 2: You know, our 2022 revenue guide at seven to nine percent is absolutely constrained by supply. If we could access more supply, the guidance would likely be much higher, you know, given the demand strength that we've seen, given the backlog that we built out. So it is a.

2022 revenue guide to 7% to 9% is absolutely constrained by supply if we could access more supply the.

The guidance would likely be much higher given the demand strength that we've seen given the backlog that we built out so it is a supply constrained.

Speaker 2: supply-constrained forecast, if you will. Now, nothing's changed in that we still believe the supply chain is going to remain challenged.

Forecast if you will know what we said nothing has changed when that we still believe the supply chain is going to remain challenged that said our confidence in our line of sight to procuring the supply that we need for the year has changed today right. So we were talking about at least mid single digits. We just had a little more volatility in our assumptions of 90 days ago now that we're 90 days.

Speaker 2: That said, our confidence and our line of sight to procuring the supply that we need for the year has changed a bit, right? So we were talking about at least, you know, mid-single digits. We just had a little more volatility in our assumptions 90 days ago. Now that we're 90 days forward, we feel better about saying seven to nine. So, you know, we did raise it from at least mid-single to seven to nine.

Forward, we feel better about saying, 7% to nine so we did raise it from at least mid single to seven to nine.

Speaker 2: Basically, on our confidence level and our ability to procure supply, we need to deliver that revenue goal.

Basically on our confidence level in our ability to procure supply we need to deliver that revenue goal.

Okay.

Speaker 3: Okay, the next question is coming from Sami Badri from Credit Suisse.

The next question is coming from Sami Badri from Credit Suisse. Your line is live.

Speaker 12: Thank you. First, I just wanted to double click on something you said earlier, Rami, and you've alluded to this twice on this conference call, which is.

Thank you.

First I just wanted to double click on something you said earlier Rami and you've alluded to this twice on this conference call which is.

Speaker 12: the Metro opportunity and solution set. Can you just expand on all of this? Like, what is required? What are telcos, cables, other SPs? What are they going to need?

The metro opportunity and solution set can you just expand on all of this like what is required what our telephones cables either Sps what are they going to need.

Speaker 12: for this. What are you guys specifically looking to add to the portfolio just so we can better understand why this isn't actually in position yet and where it's really going. So that's the first piece.

What are you guys, specifically looking to add to portfolio. Just so we can better understand why this isn't actually and positioned to yet and where it's really growing so that's the first piece.

Speaker 12: The second piece is on Aptra, and maybe you could just tell us, I think you mentioned earlier that some of your cloud customers are actually using this.

Second piece on upstream and.

Maybe you could just tell US I think you mentioned earlier that some of your cloud customers are actually using this.

Speaker 12: but maybe you can expand if this could actually be much more all-encompassing for all your customers to potentially use. Could you just kind of help us understand these two things?

But maybe you can expand that this could actually be much more all encompassing for all your customers to potentially use could you just kind of help us understand these two things.

Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thanks for the really good questions, Sammy. So on the metro opportunity, and the question specifically is, what do we need? So we have great routing technology. We have a fantastic routing stack. Our Junos and Junos Evolved operating systems are all really critical ingredients. What we need are.

Absolutely. Thanks for the really good questions Sami so on the Metro opportunity and the question specifically is what do we need so we have.

Great routing technology, we have a fantastic routing stack, our juno's and Genocea Board operating systems are all really critical ingredients, what we need are.

Speaker 1: price- and form-factor-optimized systems to capture the end-to-end metro opportunity, because in metro, you're deploying platforms in sort of the outer reaches of the Internet.

Rice and form factor optimized systems to capture the end to end metro opportunity because in metro youre, putting your deploying platforms and sort of the outer reaches of the internet closer and closer to.

Speaker 1: closer and closer to residential customers and business customers and so on.

Residential customers and business customers and so on so you can think about it from a technology development standpoint is relatively low hanging fruit, we have a lot of the most complex pieces. We just have to optimize it in terms of power form factor for that specific opportunity and that's exactly what we're doing why didn't we.

Speaker 1: So, you know, you can think about it from a technology development standpoint, it's relatively low hanging fruit. We have a lot of the most complex pieces, we just have to optimize it.

Speaker 1: in terms of power form factor for that specific opportunity, and that's exactly what we're doing. Why didn't we do it earlier? Simply because we had priorities of investment elsewhere, and now we are making this as a bet, and we're essentially lining that bet with.

Earlier simply because we had priorities of investment elsewhere and now we are making this a bit and we've essentially lining that debt with.

Speaker 1: the emergence of the 5G opportunity and I should also just mention that very importantly in the metro there is a

The emergence of the <unk> opportunity and I should also just mentioned that very importantly in the metro there is a.

Speaker 1: a software component, a management and day two operations component that we're becoming really good at based on the experience that we've built with MIST in the AI-driven enterprise and more recently, APSTRA in the data center. Okay, with that leads us to then the second question, which is on APSTRA.

Software component of management and day, two operations components that we're becoming really good based on the experience that we've built with mist in the AI driven enterprise and more recently Astra and the data center. Okay was that leads us to then the second question, which is an abstract.

Speaker 1: Abstract today is primarily focused the bulk of the business and deployments that we have on the data center not 100%. We do have some campus and other opportunities, but really

<unk> today is primarily focused the bulk of the business and deployment that we have on the data center not 100%, we do have some campus and other opportunities, but really it's the datacenter of the primary opportunity. After the only open management solutions for the data center industry. It's the best.

Speaker 1: The data center is the primary opportunity. Apstra is the only open.

Speaker 1: management solution for the data center in the industry. It's the best.

Speaker 1: From an operational experience standpoint, they wrote the book on intent-based networking and it's high scale, it scales to the largest customers in the world.

From an operational experience standpoint, they wrote the book unintended based networking and it's high scale at scale with the largest customers in the world and that's the differentiation, that's allowing us to win more and more full stack data center opportunities or just pure software opportunities eventually we might look at expanding.

Speaker 1: And that's the differentiation that's allowing us to win more and more full stack data center opportunities or just pure software opportunities. Eventually, we might look

The reach of abstract beyond the data center.

But right now quite frankly I'm much more focused on the data center opportunity. We've got formidable competitors in this space and we want to make sure that we continue to deliver the best possible solutions for our customers.

Speaker 1: focused on the data center opportunity. We've got, you know, formidable competitors in this space and

Okay. The next question is coming from Rod Hall from Goldman Sachs Rod Your line is live.

Yes.

Speaker 13: Hi there. This is Max Gamperl on for Rod. Thank you for taking my question. I had a question, a more specific question, on the supply constraints. And we're wondering how tight the higher-speed MX router lines supply currently is. And is it worse or better than the previous quarter? And maybe you can even comment which of the TRIO chips are in shortest supply. Thank you.

Hi, there this is Max <unk> on for Rod. Thank you for taking my question.

I had a question more specific question on the supply constraints and are wondering.

How tight are higher speed IMAX router lines supply currently is.

Is it worse or better than the previous quarter and maybe you can even comment rich of the trio chips are in shorter supply. Thank you.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so supply constraints are really across the board and you are seeing ebbs and flows as we solve a particular problem. Maybe another problem pops up.

Yes, so supply constraints are really across the board and you are seeing ebbs and flows as we solve a particular problem maybe another problem pops up as it relates to <unk>, specifically you could see from the revenue results anyway, Q3 was actually down overall in kind of our ESP business in Q4 was up so we did ship more.

Speaker 2: As it relates to MX specifically, you can see from the revenue results anyway, Q3 was actually down overall in kind of our SP business and Q4 was up. So we did ship more in Q4 than we did in, say, Q3, but that's going to vary quarter to quarter based on timing of...

In Q4, and then we didn't say Q3, but that's going to vary quarter to quarter based on timing of orders, but more importantly, the timing of supply. So I don't feel there is a unique supply constraint our situation with our <unk> line cards. It really is kind of an across the board across all of our products and solutions.

Speaker 2: you know, orders, but more importantly, timing of supply. So, you know, I don't feel there's a

Speaker 2: unique supply constraint or situation with our MX line cards. It really is kind of an across the board across all of our products and solutions.

Speaker 3: The next question is coming from Samik Chowdhury from JP Morgan, your line is live.

The next question is coming from Cemig Choudhary from JP Morgan Your line is live.

Hi, Thanks for taking my question I just had a question on the operating margin expansion.

Speaker 14: Hi, thanks for taking my question. I just had a question on the operating margin expansion. Does one of the companies that we talked to indicated that there's rising compensation costs for 22 to retain employees. Is that baked into your guidance for the at least 100 basis points of expansion?

It does.

One of the companies that we talk to you indicated that there is rising compensation costs.

For 'twenty two to retain employees is that baked into your guidance for the at least 100 basis points of expansion.

Speaker 2: Yes, so we have factored in, you know, our total operating cost expectations for 2022, you know, not only for investment purposes, but also retaining employees. So yes, that is factored into our overall plans and including our expansion plans to expand operating margin.

Yes, so we have factored in our total operating cost expectations for 2022.

Not only for investment purposes, but also retaining employees. So yes that is factored into our overall plans and including our expansion plans to expand operating margin.

The next question is coming from Amit <unk> from Evercore. Your line is live.

Speaker 15: I was curious, so you mentioned gross margins would have been 61.7 percent, I think, without COVID-related costs, so about a 220 basis point delta versus what you reported. I'm wondering, is there any way to kind of break down that 220 basis points between, you know, input cost inflation versus other factors like freight or anything else that's having an impact?

This is Michael Fisher on for Amit. Thanks for taking my question I was curious so you mentioned gross margins would've been 61, 7% I think without COVID-19 related costs of about 220 basis point Delta.

Versus what you reported I'm wondering is there any way to kind of breakdown.

That 220 basis points between input cost inflation versus other factors like freight or anything else, that's having an impact.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll tell you that both freight is a big chunk of it, as well as just component cost and expedite fees. So I would categorize component cost and expedite fees as kind of the same bucket. And if you look at that as a combined group versus freight, both are, you know, effectively equally impactful to that number.

Yes, So I will tell you that both freight is a big chunk of it as well as just component cost and expedite fees. So I would categorize component cost and expedite fees as kind of the same bucket and if you look at that as a combined group versus freight both are effectively equally impactful to that number.

Speaker 3: This next question is coming from Metta Marshall from Morgan Stanley .

Okay. The next question is coming from meta Marshall from Morgan Stanley . Your line is live.

Speaker 2: Hi team, this is Eric on Formida. Thanks for taking our question and congrats on the quarter. I guess just when we look at the strength in automated win, if we can go back to that, was any of that driven by new web-scale customer projects you've noted, or is that mostly from existing customers? And I guess if a new customer, would there be any project-based volatility that we should be mindful of?

Hi team. This is Eric on for me to Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the quarter I guess, just when we look at the shrimp and automated win if we can go back to that was there any of that driven by new web scale customer projects, you've noted or is that mostly from existing customers and I guess, if a new customer would there be any.

Project based volatility that we should be mindful of.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually a great question. I think a lot of the strength and the momentum that we've seen over the last year has actually been more driven by existing footprints, existing deployments that we have within both our service provider and our cloud customers, but having

Yes, it's actually a great question I think a lot of the strength and the momentum that we've seen over the last year has actually been more driven by existing footprint existing deployments that we have within both our service provider and our cloud customers, but having said.

Speaker 1: You know, we have been competing for and winning new 400 gig opportunities in both segments. And we alluded, I think, starting a couple of quarters ago to a fairly large hyperscale cloud provider, WAN, in other words, routing WAN.

We have been competing for and winning new 400 gig opportunities in both segments and we alluded I think starting in a couple of quarters ago too.

A fairly large hyperscale cloud provider win in other words routing win.

Speaker 1: you know, those opportunities might have contributed to some extent to our orders and to our backlog, but not yet to revenue.

Those opportunities might have contributed to some extent to our orders to our backlog, but not yet to revenue.

Speaker 1: So the quick summary is, most of the strength and the momentum thus far has been existing footprint, but great wind that will continue to give us tailwinds throughout this year and next year, as those opportunities start to actually deploy.

No.

Quick summary is most of the strength and the momentum thus far has been existing footprint, but great win that will continue to give us tailwind.

About this year and next year.

As those opportunities start to actually deploy.

Speaker 3: Okay, the next question is coming from Jim Suva from Citigroup, your line is open.

Okay. The next question is coming from Jim Suva from Citigroup. Your line is less.

Speaker 12: Thank you. Following up on that topic, I actually was going to ask directly about that. I remember a few quarters ago, Rami, you were very excited about some hyperscaler lab work and design wins and such. And I was going to ask you about the timeline of that. Is it typically like a 12 month and then we start to see revenue recognition? Is it longer? Does COVID kind of play into some of those?

Thank you.

Following up on that topic, I actually was going to ask directly about that about I remember a few quarters ago. Rami you were very excited about some hyper scaler lab work and design wins and such and I'm just going to ask you about the timeline of that is it typically like a 12 month and then we start to see revenue recognition is it longer.

As COVID-19 kind of play into some of those.

Speaker 3: what I would consider new Greenfield customer and relationships and trying to, you know, calibrate expectations for when we start to fold that into your revenue model.

<unk> scale, what I would consider new greenfield customer.

Customer and relationships I'm just trying to.

Calibrate expectations for when we start to fold that into your revenue model. Thank you.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair to think of this as deployment will happen throughout this year, probably more in the second half of the year. Typically, the sequence of events is there's a testing period, you know, that's part of an RFP process.

Yes, I think it's fair to think of this as deployments will happen.

Throughout this year, probably more in the second half of the year typically the sequence of events is there is a testing period, that's part of an RFP process.

Speaker 1: There is, you know, winning the opportunity, and then there's a certification period where, you know, you work closely with the customer to do use case-specific testing and getting it ready for early feed trials, and then ultimately into deployment. So maybe sort of second half of this year timeframe, and that's typically true of most large-scale WAN wins, whether they be in the cloud provider space or the service provider space. Thank you.

There is winning the opportunity and then there is a certification period, where you work closely with the customer to do.

Use case specific testing and getting it ready for early field trials and then ultimately into deployment, so maybe sort of second half of this year.

Timeframe than that.

Yes.

That's typically true of most large scale win wins, whether they'd be in the cloud provider space or the service provider space.

I'd now like to turn floor back to management for closing remarks.

Speaker 1: Okay. Well, listen, I just wanted to thank everybody, appreciate the time and the interest, as well as the confidence that you've placed in myself and in my management team. I hope you can see the confidence that we have in our prospects, both in terms of our ability to deliver revenue growth, as well as profitability, and not just for this year, but on a sustainable basis. So, thank you, and we'll talk soon.

Okay.

Listen I just wanted to thank everybody appreciate the time and the interest as well as the confidence that you've placed in us and myself and my management team I Hope you can see the confidence that we have in our prospects. Both in terms of our ability to deliver revenue growth as well as profitability and not just for this year, but on a sustainable.

<unk> basis. So thank you and we'll talk soon.

Okay.

Speaker 3: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect. Your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

Okay.