Q4 2021 Hawaiian Electric Industries Inc Earnings Call
Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today's full-year and Q4 2021 Hawaiian Industries incorporated earnings conference call. My name is Amber and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call.
With an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad at any time. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host Julie Smolinski, Vice President of Investor Relations and corporate sustainability with Hawaiian Electric incorporated. Julie, please proceed.
Thank you Amber and welcome everyone to [ATI's] full year and fourth quarter 2021 earnings call. Our press release and the presentation will review on this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website.
Thank you Amber and welcome everyone to [ATI's] full year and fourth quarter 2021 earnings call. Our press release and the presentation will review on this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website.
During today's call, we'll be using certain non-GAAP financial measures to describe our operating performance.
Our presentation contains reconciliations of these measures to the equivalent GAAP measures.
As a reminder, forward-looking statements will be made on today's call. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations can be found in our presentation, our SEC filings and in the Investor Relations section of our website.
Now Scott Sue ATI's President and CEO will begin with his remarks.
Hello, everyone.
Hello, and thank you for joining us today.
As you know Connie Lau retired as ATI's CEO at year-end. I'm very excited to build on this strong foundation Connie handed to me and to take ATI forward with the help of our leadership team.
With me on today's call are Greg Hazelton, ATI Executive Vice President and CFO who will discuss our financial performance and earnings guidance.
Shelee Kimura who became Hawaiian electric President and CEO on January 1st of this year.
And [Ann Teranishi], who became American Savings Bank, President and [ASB.]
And other members of senior management.
2021 was a year of strong achievement for our companies, for the customers who rely on us, for our communities and for the long term health of our state.
On the financial front.
Consolidated net income and earnings per share each rose 24%.
To $246 million and net income and earnings per share of $2.25.
We exceeded the high end of our latest guidance range.
Hawaiian Electric's hard work on cost efficiencies enabled us to deliver strong financial results for the utility.
While providing significant customer savings and advancing our ambitious climate change action plan.
Improved credit quality and what he is recovering economy drove bank earnings above initial expectations as we were able to release reserves for unrealized credit losses, resulting in significant negative provision for the year.
Coupled with net interest income growth from earning asset expansion and PPP fees.
As well as strong execution on its digital transformation, our bank had a good year.
Last week, we raised our annual dividend for the fourth year in a row.
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At the utility we made significant progress on our 2021 to 2025 strategic plan, which centers on three pillars, creating customer value, strengthening our foundation and building a stronger Hawaii.
We created customer value on several fronts in 2021.
We delivered $8 million in customer savings from cost efficiencies and supported customers, who face financial challenges during the pandemic.
We did this through bill relief programs, including a 2 million dollar Bill credit program.
We did this through bill relief programs, including a 2 million dollar Bill credit program.
Extended and deferred payment plans and facilitating customer use of government assistance.
We also launched programs, giving customers more options to benefit from the clean energy transition.
Including battery bonus to incentivize customer-owned energy storage and quick connect to enable customers to interconnect solar and battery systems to the grid faster.
This work also helped us earn a financial award under our interconnection experience performance incentives a win-win-win for customers.
The fight against climate change and the company.
We've worked on strengthening our foundation for a while including working with the public Utilities Commission and stakeholders to create the new performance-based regulation or PBR framework, which we successfully transitioned to in June.
Our focus now is on continued execution under PBR to advance operational efficiencies and customer and clean energy initiatives.
Our workforce and culture, which are critical to our success.
Were also a focus in 2021.
We implemented new programs for leadership development.
Continued to promote equity and inclusion within our diverse employee base and successfully concluded negotiations with our union.
Leading to ratification of a new three year contract.
All of this supports our work to build a stronger Hawaii.
In 2021, we showed continued climate leadership committing to reduce carbon emissions from power generation 70% by 2030, compared to 2005 levels and to reach net-zero or better by 2045.
We achieved the renewable portfolio standard of 38.4%.
Putting us well ahead of schedule to reach Hawaiian's statutory goal of 40% Rps by 2030.
And with our customers, we reached one gigawatt of installed solar capacity, mostly customer-owned.
That's a major milestone considering the peak load of our five island system is about 1.6 gigawatts.
That's a major milestone considering the peak load of our five island system is about 1.6 gigawatts.
We made great strides in our electrification of transportation strategy as well.
Which is crucial to decarbonising, our economy and reducing the per-unit cost of energy for customers.
Our eBus make ready and commercial EV charging rate pilot programs have now been approved and we filed an application to dramatically expand our public EV charging network.
We'll build on this momentum in 2022.
We will eliminate coal in Hawaii this fall when the AES coal plant contract expires and we have a diverse portfolio of measures to support reliability when that happens.
We're working with developers, state and county government and community members to move in global energy and storage projects forward as quickly as possible.
Like others in the industry, we've seen some delays due to the global supply chain dynamics and inflationary conditions.
We're committed to our goals and you will see us continue to procure additional clean energy resources in the future to meet them.
In 2022, we remain focused on operating within the PBR framework with an ongoing emphasis on cost efficiency.
We'll continue to work collaboratively with the PUC and key stakeholders in the ongoing process to develop additional performance incentive mechanisms.
And will soon be filing a significant resilient strategy that will seek cost recovery for under the exceptional project recovery mechanism or EPRM.
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American Savings Bank has performed very well through the pandemic demonstrating the value of its conservative management approach, good credit quality and low-cost funding base.
It continues to produce solid earnings that provide efficient capital to support our consolidated investment grade capital structure and growing dividends to [HCI] shareholders.
It continues to produce solid earnings that provide efficient capital to support our consolidated investment grade capital structure and growing dividends to [HCI] shareholders.
The bank's solid 2021 financial performance was matched with robust execution on a number of strategies and initiatives.
Customers reliance on online and other self service options grew dramatically through the pandemic.
We aggressively accelerated our anytime anywhere banking transition to meet their needs.
In 2021, we executed on several projects to expand customer options and our capabilities, including completing our ATM briefly.
Opening four new digital centers first of their kind in Hawaii.
And implementing more online and remote functionality.
We also implemented the second and third rounds of Paycheck protection program or PPP loans.
Chief mortgage production volume of $1.2 billion on par with our record in 2020.
And grew our commercial real estate loan portfolio, all while continuing to support our community and local economy.
As Greg will discuss further, in 2022, we expect the reset of bank earnings after the last two pandemic years, which created some volatility with respect to reserves for credit losses.
We expect provision for credit losses to resume in 2022 with anticipated growth in loans.
The outlook for fed rate increases is promising and is expected to benefit our margin as our balance sheet is asset sensitive.
In 2022, the bank will continue to focus on its digital transformation to position itself to compete and grow in the future.
I'll hand it off to Greg now, who will review our financial results and earnings guidance.
Thank you, Scott.
2021 saw a significant improvement in the Hawaii economy, as we've continued to adapt to the evolving COVID-19 environment.
And policies that have focused on safely keeping the economy open.
Supported by good healthy health care capacity and low hospitalization rate.
Visitor arrivals reached 2019 levels for a time.
Last summer and travel over the holiday season was strong.
The outlook for 2022 as promising as the state anticipates continued strong domestic travel demand and the gradual recovery of international travel.
Unemployment in the state has continued to steadily improve reporting 5.7% in December.
Improving 4.6% year over year and down markedly from its peak in April 2020 of nearly 24%.
While it's still lagging the national average of 3.9%.
Hawaii's housing market has remained very strong. On Oahu, single-family home sales were up 17.9% in 2021.
And the median prices for the year rose 19.3%.
In December, the median Oahu home price was over $1 million.
We've seen continued strength so far in 2022.
While some pandemic uncertainty remains, we are cautiously optimistic regarding Hawaii's economic outlook.
After an estimated 5 .8% improvement in the state GDP in 2021, the University of Hawaii Economic Research organization December baseline forecast expects GDP to grow by 2.7% in 2022.
Turning to our results on slide six.
Solid execution at both bank and utility during the fourth quarter contributed to our strong consolidated financial performance.
With full-year 2021 earnings up 24% to $246.2 million or $2.25 per share.
Utility earnings grew approximately 5% to $177.6 million.
Our ability to control costs, while pursuing ambitious carbon reduction strategies allowed Hawaiian electric to provide the $8 million in customer savings Scott mentioned.
And establish a 2 million dollar customer Bill credit program that wasn't previously included in our prior guidance.
Full-year adjusted O&M, excluding pension declined even as the impacts of inflation and supply chain dynamics increased as we came into year end.
ASB's full year earnings were up 76% compared to 2020 at a record $101.2 million.
This reflected $25.8 million in negative provision as credit quality and the economic environment improved.
Growth in net interest income as earning assets increased.
Funded by low cost deposit growth.
And PPP, continued PPP fee income in conjunction with loan forgiveness under the program.
Continued P. P. P fee income in conjunction with loan forgiveness under the program.
Holding company and other segment net net loss was $32.7 million.
Up from 2020, primarily due to higher performance incentive compensation.
Our consolidated ROE for the last 12 months was 10.4% an increase of 180 basis points from 2020.
Utility ROE of 8.1% was consistent with 2020 and better than originally anticipated. During this year's June 1st transition into the PBR framework.
Bank ROE was up significantly as well at 13.8%.
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On slide seven the key drivers of the utilities higher 2021 net income compared to the prior year were $9 million higher net revenues from the rate adjustment mechanism and June 1st transition to the annual revenue adjustment mechanism or ARA.
Which included a customer dividend.
And additional offset a $4 million or $6.6 million pretax of management audit savings delivered to customers.
$4 million from a reduction in enterprise resource planning or ERP system implementation benefit to be passed through to customers.
As delivery of the full Oahu ERP benefits commitment was completed in 2020.
$2 million from higher performance incentive mechanisms are pimps, primarily related to achievement of interconnection experience target.
Partially offsetting these items were $5 million higher depreciation expense due to increasing investments to integrate more renewable energy and improved customer reliability and system efficiency.
$3 million higher interest expense two higher borrowings.
And 3 million lower fuel efficiency related to planned maintenance outages.
Lower fuel efficiency related to planned maintenance outages.
The utility manage costs swell in 2021.
On a GAAP basis, the utility had a net increase of 1 million in expense. However, adjusted O&M Wood chip, which is a non-GAAP measure and excludes retirement service costs and expenses.
And expenses covered by surcharges and activities build to third parties.
It was 412 million below 2020, even in the inflationary environment we experienced during the fourth quarter. 2021 came in slightly above our guidance of $409 million, primarily due to the 2 million dollar customer Bill credit program refunded at year-end and higher.
than expected December storm costs.
Continuing to manage costs efficiently will remain a central focus under the PBR framework.
In fact, 2022 is our first full year operating under PBR.
Recall that there are three key earnings drivers for the utility under this framework.
The annual revenue adjustment or ARA, which covers baseline O&M and Capex through in an inflationary adjustment minus a customer dividend.
Additionally, we've achieved the $6.6 million in committed annual savings under the management audit, which are now reflected in rates.
The ARA provides us with predictability on baseline revenues and flexibility to manage O&M and CAPEX within the ARA during the rate case stay out period.
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Second, separate recovery mechanisms for eligible O&M and capital projects, providing recovery above the baseline levels covered by the ARA.
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And third, performance incentive mechanisms, which provide opportunity for additional rewards if we achieve preset goals.
In 2022 we expect, together with the PUC ARA approved minus the management audit savings to provide a net 23 million in revenues during the year.
Together with the PUC a R E approved minus the management audit savings to provide a net 23 million in revenues during the year.
The accrual for the ARA started on January 1st rather than June first under the previous framework. So we expect this to eliminate 20 basis points of lag on Roe.
With respect to separate recovery, we will be accruing $23 million in revenues during 2022 for projects that had been approved by the PUC.
This is under the exceptional projects recovery mechanism or EPRM and the major project interim recovery mechanism or MPIR.
Additional revenues are possible for EPRM requested projects that had been filed under pending Commission decision.
We expect these two mechanisms the ARA and separate recovery mechanisms based on planned investments as approved.
Will result in an average annual utility earnings growth of approximately 5% from '2022 through 2024.
We expect moderate growth in contributions from performance incentive mechanisms in 2022.
Primarily coming from the achievement of RPSA.
And interconnection experience and grid services incentives.
Combined, we estimate $2 million to $4 million from those PIMs this year.
With potential upside from the RPSA.
Other PIMs are less estimable at this time and in the appendix of the slides we've provided today on slide 21, we've added some additional color on each.
Turning to slide 10.
You'll see we invested $302 million in Capex in 2021. That was lower than our initial outlook, which you'll recall, we adjusted during the year.
Due to productivity improvements and efficiencies that reduced certain project costs.
Delays related to a prolonged substation outage that has been resolved, but limited work we could do on other parts of the system during the year.
And some supply chain delays due to the pandemic.
Our capex outlook for 2022 is 350 to 400 million.
Mostly comprised of baseline capex covered by the ARA mechanism.
We expect the ARA baseline CAPEX to be approximately 300 to 320 million annually from 2022 through 2024.
With respect to separately recovered capex.
With respect to separately recovered capex.
The higher end of the ranges for 2022 to 2024 include projects for which we are awaiting PUC approval, including our Maui and Hawaii Island battery energy storage projects.
Full meter deployment of our grid modernization phase one project.
And our public EV Charger expansion project.
And additionally, our soon to be filed resilience strategy.
Turning to the bank on slide 11, [ASB] significant increase in net income over 2020 was primarily due to improvement in credit trends and economic and the economic environment that drove $25.8 million in negative provision for credit losses for the year compared to a provision of 50.8 million in 2020.
$8 million in 2020.
Higher net interest income on expansion of earning assets also contributed to the bank's solid 2021 results.
These factors more than offset lower non-interest income and higher expenses.
The lower noninterest income reflected lower gains on sale of mortgages as we elected to add more of our mortgage production to our portfolio in 2021.
And at one time gain on the sale of certain [visa] securities in 2020.
Higher noninterest expense was primarily due to higher incentive compensation costs, reflecting the bank's strong 2021 performance as well as investments in the digital transformation.
While lower interest rate environment impacted net interest margin in 2021, net interest income still grew due to strong deposit growth and drove average earning assets higher by 11.4%.
[ASP's] full-year 2021 net interest margin was 2.91% compared to 3.29% in the prior year.
PPP fees and record low funding costs helped offset some of the effects of the low interest rate environment and continued excess liquidity.
The average cost of funds remained at record lows six basis points for the full year and five basis points for the fourth quarter.
Our projected outlook for 2022 net interest margin is 2.7 to 2.85%.
This reflects the current interest rate environment, and the fact that we've already realized the bulk of remaining P. P. P fees.
Would expect.
We have an asset sensitive balance sheet, and we would expect about 9% of our book to reprice quickly. Following initial fed rate increases this year.
Approximately 3% of our book is currently at floors and rates will need to increase above those floors before we see the benefit.
And on margin from those rating from rate further rate increases.
The rest of our book would reflect rate increases more gradually over time.
In 2022 we expect continued solid profitability from the bank well some of the tailwind that benefited us in 2021 will taper off in the year, we're starting to see.
We're starting in a good place.
This on slide 13, this slide walks us through key differences that we expect compared to 2021 .
As mentioned, we realized most of the P. P. P fee income last year with approximately 3 million left in 2022.
We expect a resumption of provisioning for loan losses in 2022, as we see more loan growth.
Our negative provision in 2021 reflected significant improvement in economic conditions during the year compared to the economic uncertainty we had in 2020, while our reserves are based on credit risk in the portfolio and the potential impacts of Covid are not yet over we do expect further economic recovery in 2002.
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At the same time, we're starting 2022 with the larger earning asset base of over $8 5 billion, giving us a stronger platform from which to invest the bank's capital and a rising interest rate environment.
Like at the utility. The bank is also very focused on very focused on efficiency and that is expected to help keep the bank operating expense increases moderate even while investing in its digital transformation.
On slide 14, our financing outlook for 2022 reflects our strong financial condition and solid dividends from both the utility and the bank.
Hei's consolidated capital structure and liquidity remains strong.
Our cash distributions from both the utility and bank are projected to increase in 2022.
Given those cash flows and or debt issuances and refinancings in 2020 . One we do not expect to need external equity the rest of the year and anticipate minimal debt issuances.
Our strong earnings and cash flow outlook allow us to maintain a conservative capital structure consistent with an investment grade credit profile and supportive of a growing dividend.
Please note on this slide that incremental Pacific current investments are not included and would be announced once approved and under contract.
On slide 15, we're initiating our 2022 consolidated earnings guidance range of $2 to $2 20 per share.
Our utility guidance of $1 $68 78 per share assumes full recovery of COVID-19 related deferred expenses at.
At year end, we recorded approximately $28 million of Covid related costs and a deferred regulatory account. Please.
We plan to request recovery of those costs in the first half of the year.
Based on current economic conditions and trends in customer payments, we do not we.
We do not expect to request further deferral beyond 2021.
I would consider making such a request if conditions warrant.
We expect adjusted O&M, excluding pension to remain within the E. R E inflationary adjusted levels.
I've already covered our expectations for 2022 regarding capex and moderate contributions from pins.
We expect average annual utility earnings growth of about 5% from 'twenty to 'twenty two to 'twenty 'twenty four based on a R E and separate recovery mechanisms with the potential for payment achievements to enhance earnings growth and realized roe's beyond that level.
Our bank guidance of 15 nine.
68 cents per share reflects continued solid profitability, which we've seen throughout this throughout the pandemic and a reset of our earning expectations given the resumption of provision and a recovering but still COVID-19 endemic economy.
Our base case assumes four fed rate increases in our guidance range accommodates further increases. It also accounts for inflationary impacts tuned expenses, which we continue to manage through cost efficiencies, including our branch optimization strategy.
We expect low single digit, earning asset growth and net interest margin of $2 70 to 285 basis points.
We expect holding company losses to be consistent with 2021 levels despite higher inflation.
And we are targeting long term dividend growth in line with earnings growth and the dividend payout ratio range of 60% to 70%.
Scott will now make his closing remarks.
Mahalo, Greg and Mahalo to all of you for joining us today.
We're proud of our performance for our customers our community and our shareholders in 2021.
And we look forward to building on this momentum in 2022.
With that let's open up the call for questions.
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Our first question comes from Ryan Greenwald with Bank of America. Ryan Your line is now open.
Great. Thank you I appreciate the time.
Maybe to start can you talk a bit he.
Can you talk a bit more about what drives net interest margin to decline year over year I. Appreciate the color around repricing of the portfolio and the four fed rate increases and better than guide, but any general sensitivities you can provide around the Marion magnitudes of rate hikes that might materialize there.
Sure and will hand that off to Dane Korea, our CFO at the bank.
Hi, Ryan so the fourth quarter, our margin was 279%.
And so the 291 was an average for the 2021 a year. So we're starting the year I'm a little bit Laura on the lower end of our guidance range. So what are our margin guidance range anticipates is for rate hikes, and obviously, we would benefit more.
On additional rate cuts beyond that if it were to materialize.
Our balance sheet is asset sensitive and so we have a bunch of loans and assets that will reprice upward as rates are are higher throughout the year.
Got it.
On the increasing fuel cost of late how do you guys think about that potentially leading to an acceleration.
Any generation strategies in the state and any opportunity here for Repowering of the Aes plan at this point.
Yeah, Hi, Ryan This is Scott I'll start but are open it up to show he came around the utility team to add in as well, but in general you know.
The fuel cost increases the volatility, especially I mean, it just fits in with the long range plans for Hawaii that we've been on for for quite a while.
You know we are chasing.
Chasing getting off of fossil fuels as aggressively as we can.
I think that there continues to be significant progress made and we are ahead of goal with respect to the renewable portfolio standard. So you know I I believe that seem to feel volatility will just continue to put our put the focus here in Hawaii across the board.
To continue to to continue that progress.
I don't expect any material changes in policy other than keep going as aggressively as we can and I would say that here in Hawaii, we've been doing that pretty consistently over the past several years.
As far as the E. S coal plants are whether or not that could be repowering that did come up as a possibility possibility in discussion last year.
But at this stage.
The utility actually has plans to initiate a firm renewable RFP this year.
And any types of Optionality for that E. S plant would have to be within that framework. So I'm not seeing a one way or the other whether or not that will be feasible. If ultimately it rises as a good option then we'll consider it.
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But I think he covered that well nothing to add.
Thanks Shelly.
Great I'll leave it there. Thank you for the time.
Thanks, Ryan Thanks, France.
Thank you Ryan.
Our next question comes from Paul Patterson with Glen Rock Associates.
Paul Your line is now okay very good.
Good morning, guys How're you doing.
Hey, Paul Paul can you hear me.
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Quick quickly on the.
A couple of things first of all the pin.
Outlook for the Rps a rewards it looked like you guys skilled it down a little bit maybe.
Them from what the last numbers I saw on slide 22.
And I was wondering what's driving that.
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I'll, let shelly fill in the blanks here, but in essence. This reflects the latest expectations. We have for some of the renewable projects that are in the development pipeline one of the things I mentioned earlier on the call was that you know we are starting to see some impacts of supply chain delays some inflationary challenges.
If some of the projects. So what we are doing is just updating our anticipated commercial operation dates for some of the projects. So what that does is of course, if a project is pushed into later commercial operations in the year, we're seeing less renewable energy come into play in the near term.
Our arm and that of course directly impacts the amount of Rps pins that we achieve.
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Okay Fair enough and then on.
Yeah, Paul I would just connection experience cause sorted.
Hi, Paul This is Shelly I hope, you're well I would just add to that that I think one of the good things that have come out of this because of the supply chain challenges that we're all seen there's been a really positive rallying of many stakeholders to try and make sure. These projects get done so the governor put together.
We are powering past called task force.
And that includes many representatives from government as well as all of the independent power producers and ourselves and I think it really create that a positive model going forward for Hawaii in terms of all the different players that have a part in ensuring these projects get done.
So that is the positive side of what's come out of this situation.
That's great and I just was wondering I apologize if I.
Just don't know this but what is the interconnection experience.
As far as I mean, what does it actually mean is that just a question of timing or.
When you when you guys are improved and obviously it was a benefit for you guys.
What did you guys do the how's the experience so much better I guess, what does that mean actually.
I can take that one Scott is that I think you're talking about the pen Paul and so that one is based on number of days. It takes us to complete the review process on our end and so it looks at all the steps that are in our control and we've been able to significantly reduce the number of <unk>.
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And we've been able to do that through changes in process also making sure that each division in our company that has a role in this has their respective goals to achieve in terms of days consistent monitoring on the number of days that it's taking within the press.
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It seems that depreciation increased significantly because of the investments to integrate more renewable energy.
Do you see that going forward in 2022 I apologize again, if I missed it.
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Hi, Paul. This is this is chain in terms of you know the depreciation expense.
We do have some investments related to our you know integrating more renewable which also include making sure that we have you know a reliable grid.
Looking forward. In addition to that we do have other projects actually in the hopper to afford those renewables and those include things like our grid modernization strategy.
And then also things that are waiting at a commission relate to a couple of utility build battery energy storage projects set that you know we're awaiting approval. So I'm you know depreciation for our capital investments include not only.
Our own.
On utility bills.
Renewable sources, but also the infrastructure needed to.
Accommodate additional renewables.
Does that answer your question at all.
Yeah, I, just think I got it and then just finally on the P. P fee income it sounds to me like it was if I if I understood. It correctly 3 million that you anticipate for this year.
And that will probably pretty much finish it is that correct.
Hi, Paul This is dean yes that is correct.
Awesome. Thanks, so much guys.
Thanks, Paul.
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Thank you Paul.
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There are currently no questions in queue. So I'll hand, the conference back over to our management team for closing remarks.
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Thank you very much, Amber and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Please do reach out if you have any other questions and have an excellent week.
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That concludes the full year and Q4 2021 Hawaiian Electric industries incorporated earnings Conference call. You May now disconnect your lines.
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