Q4 2021 OneMain Holdings Inc Earnings Call

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the OneMain Financial Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. Hosting the call today from OneMain is Peter Pooyan, Head of Investor Relations. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing the pound key.

Welcome to the Onemain financial fourth quarter, 2021 earnings conference call and webcast hosting the call today from one main is Peter Paul Young and I'm. The head of Investor Relations. Today's call is being recorded at this time all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the floor.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Let me begin by directing you to page two of the fourth quarter 2021 investor presentation, which contains important disclosures concerning forward looking statements and the use of non-GAAP measures. The presentation can be found in the investor relations section of our website.

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Morning, everyone and thank you for joining US let me begin by directing you to page two of the fourth quarter 2021, Investor presentation, which contains important disclosures concerning forward looking statements and the use of non-GAAP measures. The presentation can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website.

Speaker 4: Our discussion today will contain certain forward-looking statements reflecting management's current beliefs about the company's future, financial performance, and business prospects, and these forward-looking statements are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties and speak only as of today.

Our discussion today will contain certain forward looking statements, reflecting management's current beliefs about the company's future.

Actual performance and business prospects and these forward looking statements are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties.

Speak only as of today.

Speaker 4: Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are set forth in our earnings press release and include the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on our business, our customers, and the economy in general.

Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements are set forth in our earnings press release.

The effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on our business, our customers and the economy in general.

Speaker 4: We caution you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements.

We caution you not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements.

Speaker 4: If you may be listening to this via replay at some point after today, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today, February 3rd, and have not been updated subsequent to this call.

If you may be listening to this via replay at some point. After today, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today February 3rd and have not been updated subsequent to this call.

Speaker 4: Our call this morning will include formal remarks from Doug Schulman, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Micah Conrad, our Chief Financial Officer.

Our call. This morning will include formal remarks from Doug Shulman, our chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Micah Conrad our Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker 4: After the conclusion of our formal remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session.

After the conclusion of our formal remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session.

So now let me turn the call over to Doug.

Thanks, Peter and good morning, everyone. This morning, I would like to take a few minutes to look back at our progress over the past several years I will then review our strong financial performance for the quarter. I'll then spend some time updating you on our key strategic initiatives and finally provide an up.

Speaker 5: Thanks, Peter, and good morning, everyone. This morning, I'd like to take a few minutes to look back at our progress over the past several years. I will then review our strong financial performance for the quarter. I'll then spend some time updating you on our key strategic initiatives, and finally provide an updated framework for capital returns in 2022 and beyond.

David framework for capital returns in 2022 and beyond.

Speaker 5: As we start the new year, I want to reflect on the strength and resiliency of our business. Since I've been with the company, I have often said that our expertise and history with serving the non-prime customer together with our conservative balance sheet with excess liquidity uniquely positions us to drive outstanding business results through any economic environment.

As we start the new year I want to reflect on the strength and resiliency of our business.

Since I've been with the company I have often said that our expertise and history with serving the non prime customer together with our conservative balance sheet with excess liquidity uniquely positions us to drive outstanding business results through any economic environment.

Speaker 5: I believe the last couple of years have proven that point. During 2020, when the capital markets were dislocated and many competitors had to step out of the market, we continued to lend and serve our customers. And we even issued debt during the depths of the capital markets dislocation in 2020.

I believe the last couple of years have proven that point during 2020, when the capital markets were dislocated and many competitors had to step out of the market. We continued to lend and serve our customers and we even issued debt during the depth of the capital markets dislocation in 'twenty.

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Speaker 5: In 2021, when our originations had headwinds due to government stimulus, we stayed the course and were positioned well when demand returned. We also built new digital and analytics, as well as new product capabilities throughout 2020 and 2021, which position us extremely well for the future. So where does this...

In 2021, when our originations had headwinds due to government stimulus. We stayed the course and we're positioned well when demand returns. We also built new digital and analytics as well as new product capabilities throughout 'twenty, 'twenty, and 'twenty, 'twenty, one which position us extremely.

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So where does this lead us now.

Speaker 5: In 2022, we are right back on the course we laid out for you at our 2019 investor day. Most people would agree that 2020 and 2021 were anomalous years, and the right way to look at our business.

In 2022, we are right back on the course, we laid out for you at our 2019 Investor Day, most people would agree the 'twenty to 'twenty and 2021 where anomalous years in the right way to look at our business is we are back on track after 2019 the.

Speaker 5: is we are back on track after 2019, the last year that did not have any major exogenous events like the pandemic and the resulting $6 trillion of government stimulus which depressed both originations and losses.

Last year that did not have any major exogenous events like the pandemic and the resulting six trillion dollars of government stimulus, which depressed both originations and losses.

Speaker 5: In 2022, we expect loan growth of 5 to 10%. We expect losses to end the year between 5.6% and 6%, which is favorable to our long-term operating framework of 6 to 7%.

In 2022, we expect loan growth of 5% to 10%, we expect losses to end the year between five 6% and 6%, which is favorable to our long term operating framework of 6% to 7%.

Speaker 5: And our return on receivables or profitability will be above 2019 levels, even while we invest in new products and channels.

And our return on receivables or profitability will be above 2019 levels, even while we invest in new products and channels.

Speaker 5: With regard to the strength of our customers, let me remind you of a simple truth. We lend money to people who have jobs and income. And the single largest predictor of whether we will be repaid is whether people keep their job.

With regard to the strength of our customers' library, let me remind you of a simple truth.

We lend money to people, who have jobs and income and the single largest predictor of whether we will be repaid is whether people keep their jobs in.

Speaker 5: In the spring of 2020, unemployment hit mid-teens. Today, it is around 4%, almost back to pre-pandemic levels. While this varies some by sector, it is a very constructive environment for our business. And we feel good about the business that we are underwriting today.

In the spring of 2020 unemployment hit mid teens today. It is around 4% almost back to pre pandemic levels. While this varies some by sector. It is a very constructive environment for our business and we feel good about the business that we're underwriting to.

Today.

Speaker 5: As I've said before, we run our business based on the economics or capital generation of the business.

As I've said before we run our business based on the economics or capital generation of the business.

Speaker 5: This year, we anticipate generating between $1.15 and $1.2 billion of capital, and we are well on our way to exceeding our previously stated goal of at least $1.5 billion.

This year, we anticipate generating between 1.15 and $1.2 billion of capital and we are well on our way to exceeding our previously stated goal of at least one 5 billion of annual capital generation in 2025.

Speaker 5: 1.5 billion of annual capital generation in 2025, driven by the strength of our core business combined with our new products and initiatives.

Driven by the strength of our core business combined with our new products and initiatives.

Speaker 5: Despite the pandemic and the resulting market turmoil, we are on track to generate approximately $4 billion of capital cumulatively over the next three years, barring any unforeseen macro event.

Despite the pandemic and the resulting market turmoil, we are on track to generate approximately $4 billion of capital cumulatively over the next three years barring any unforeseen macro events.

Speaker 5: Let me shift to some 2021 highlights. It was a very strong year for 1 May.

Let me shift to some 2021 highlights it was a very strong year for onemain.

Speaker 5: For the full year, we grew our receivables by $1.5 billion and generated over $1.3 billion of capital. Our strong financial performance allowed us to continue to invest in our future and also return significant capital to our shareholders.

For the full year, we grew our receivables by $1.5 billion and generated over $1 $3 billion of capital.

Our strong financial performance allowed us to continue to invest in our future and also return significant capital to our shareholders.

Speaker 5: While maintaining this sharp focus on our financial performance and service to our customers, we also achieved some important strategic milestones in 2021. We launched our differentiated credit cards, Brightway and Brightway Plus. We acquired and successfully integrated TRIM.

While maintaining a sharp focus on our financial performance and service to our customers. We also achieved some important strategic milestones in 2021, we launched our differentiated credit cards bright way and bright way plus we acquired and successfully integrated trim.

Speaker 5: our customer focus, financial wellness fintech. We've developed new partner distribution channels, which are already making contributions to our growth. And most importantly, we helped millions of customers take steps towards a better financial future, advancing our mission to be the lender of choice for non-prime customers.

Our customer focus financial wellness Fintech, we've developed a new partner distribution channels, which are already making contributions to our growth.

And most importantly, we helped millions of customers take steps towards a better financial future advancing our mission to be the lender of choice for non prime customers.

Speaker 5: It was an eventful year, and we look forward to maintaining the momentum and success through 2022 and beyond. I'm very pleased with our fourth quarter financial performance. In the quarter, we generated $334 million of capital.

It was an eventful year, and we look forward to maintaining the momentum and success through 2022 and beyond.

I'm very pleased with our fourth quarter financial performance in the quarter, we generated $334 million of capital fourth quarter charge offs were four 2%, reflecting the credit tightening actions. We took in 2020 in response to the pandemic.

Speaker 5: Fourth quarter charge-offs were 4.2%. Reflecting the credit tightening actions we took in 2020 in response to the pandemic and the significant impact from government support programs in early 2021.

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Impact from government support programs in early 2021.

Speaker 5: MICA will provide an overview of our credit results, and you will see that our credit performance is on an orderly path of returning to normal levels as we get further and further away from government stimulus. As I've said before, this is healthy and expected. If our credit losses stayed in the low 4% range, it would mean we are not serving enough customers.

Michael will provide an overview of our credit results and you will see that our credit performance is on an orderly path of returning to normal levels as we get further and further away from government stimulus as I've said before this is healthy and expected if our crew.

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We continued to generate strong loan originations in the quarter, resulting in a nearly 500 million dollar increase in receivables in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5: We continued to generate strong loan originations in the quarter, resulting in a nearly $500 million increase in receivables in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5: The healthy level of origination is driven by strong demand for our core personal loan products and bolstered by growth from our new products, introduced as part of our recent strategic growth initiatives. As you can see on slide 9, a sizable portion of our growth in the quarter came from these initiatives.

Healthy level of origination is driven by strong demand for our core personal loan products and bolstered by growth from our new products introduced as part of our recent strategic growth initiatives. As you can see on slide nine a sizeable portion of our growth in the quarter.

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Speaker 5: Over the past year, we've been leveraging the strength of our balance sheet and operating model to diversify our product offerings and distribution channels. About 360 million of our growth in the corridor was from our core products, representing a healthy annual growth rate on its own.

Over the past year, we've been leveraging the strength of our balance sheet and operating model to diversify our product offerings and distribution channels about $360 million of our growth in the quarter was from our core products, representing a healthy annual growth rate on its own.

The incremental growth.

Speaker 5: of approximately $140 million came from our new products and distribution channel.

Of approximately $140 million came from our new products and distribution channels.

Speaker 5: including cards and loans to higher credit quality customers.

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Speaker 5: These are just a couple of examples of taking advantage of our scale, operating leverage, deep customer knowledge, and superior data and analytics to drive profitable incremental growth.

These are just a couple of examples of taking advantage of our scale operating leverage deep customer knowledge and superior data and analytics to drive profitable incremental growth.

During the quarter, we made notable progress with the integration of trim trimmed slate of expense saving tools like bill negotiation subscription monitoring and cancellation account aggregation and spend tracking in auto insurance price comparison supports.

Speaker 5: During the quarter, we made notable progress with the integration of TRMM. TRMM's slate of expense-saving tools like bill negotiation, subscription monitoring and cancellation, account aggregation and spend tracking, and auto insurance price comparison supports one main commitment to improving the financial well-being of hardworking Americans.

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Speaker 5: When we help customers lower their monthly bills, cancel unneeded subscriptions, or help them to track and reduce their spending, it results in tangible dollars that go back into customers' pockets. When a customer uses Trim, it also deepens our engagement with that customer, builds loyalty, and increases the chance of them doing future business with us.

When a customer uses trim. It also deepens, our engagement with that customer builds loyalty and increases the chance of them doing future business with us.

Speaker 5: Key to our product diversification strategy is our recently launched credit cards, Brightway and Brightway Plus. In 2021, we were able to build a team, launch two separate credit cards and a mobile app, and book 66,000 cards by year end.

Key to our product diversification strategy is our recently launched credit cards bright way in bright way plus in.

In 2021, we were able to build a team launched two separate credit cards, and our mobile App and booked 66000 cards by year end.

Speaker 5: Take-up rates and our cost to acquire were both in line with our expectations. We are very pleased that the reciprocity aspect of the card, where consistent on-time payments result in improved terms for customers, is resonating very well with our target market.

Take up rates and our cost to acquire were both in line with our expectations. We are very pleased that the reciprocity aspect of the card. We're consistent on time payments resulted in improved terms for customers is resonating very well with our target market.

Speaker 5: Recognizing it is still very early in the process, we are encouraged by several key metrics, especially the digital engagement.

Recognizing it is still very early in the process. We are encouraged by several key metrics, especially the digital engagement.

Speaker 5: Over 90% of our approved customers have already downloaded and installed the app, and nearly 90% of payments are being made in the app. Activation and spend metrics are in line with our projections, and we're pleased to see that customers are using the cards for everyday purchases, including groceries, dining out, and gas.

Over 90% of our approved customers have already downloaded and installed the app and nearly 90% of payments are being made in the app activation and spend metrics are in line with our projections and we're pleased to see that customers are using the cards for everyday purchase.

This including groceries dining out and gas well.

Speaker 5: We're taking a very measured and deliberate approach to the cards rollout, recognizing the importance of validating our credit risk models before scaling. During the first half of this year, we are tempering volume and we expect to begin meaningfully scaling in the second half of this year and will continue to monitor credit performance closely.

We're taking a very measured and deliberate approach to the cards rollout.

Recognizing the importance of validating our credit risk models before scaling during the first half of this year, we are tempering volume and we expect to begin meaningfully scaling in the second half of this year and we'll continue to monitor credit performance closely.

Speaker 5: As you see on slide seven, we are encouraged by the early results and the value that our credit cards provide to customers.

As you see on slide seven we are encouraged by the early results and the value that our credit cards provided to customers.

Speaker 5: As a reminder, the total addressable market for non-prime credit cards is $420 billion, five times the size of the installment loan market. So we anticipate this to be a source of growth for us. We expect our cards portfolio to generate 100 to 150 million of capital by 2025, with more growth in the years beyond.

As a reminder, the total addressable market for non Prime credit cards is $420 billion five times the size of the installment loan market. So we anticipate this to be a source of growth for us we expect our cards portfolio to generate.

$100 million to $150 million of capital by 2025 with more growth in the years beyond.

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Speaker 5: Let me shift to our capital allocation and return framework.

Let me shift to our capital allocation and return framework.

Speaker 5: Our business strategy, execution, and capital allocation policy over the past several years has paid off for investment.

Our business strategy execution and capital allocation policy over the past several years has paid off for investors. Our total shareholder return for the past three years has been 215% as compared with 100% for the S&P 508.

Speaker 5: Our total shareholder return for the past three years has been 215%, as compared with 100% for the S&P 500 and 84% for our peers. Our capital return program has been historically biased towards dividends, driven by the existence of a 40% shareholder, which limited liquidity in our stock.

<unk>, 4% for our peers, our capital return program has been historically bias towards dividends driven by the existence of a 40% shareholder which limited liquidity in our stock.

Speaker 5: Over the past year, that shareholder has sold at stake. Liquidity in the stock has doubled as average daily volume increased from about 700,000 shares at the beginning of the year to about 1.4 million shares today.

Over the past year that shareholder has sold its stake liquidity in the stock has doubled as average daily volume increased from about 700000 shares at the beginning of the year to about one 4 million shares today.

Speaker 5: And we've been evolving to a more predictable and regular cadence of capital returns, including share repurchase.

We've been evolving to a more predictable and regular cadence of capital returns, including share repurchases in the fourth quarter. We bought back three 7 million shares our shares are trading at levels. We believe.

Speaker 5: In the fourth quarter, we bought back 3.7 million shares. Our shares are trading at levels we believe.

Speaker 5: are extremely attractive and as such we've been prioritizing buybacks for the last few months.

Are extremely attractive and as such we've been prioritizing buybacks for the last few months.

We are incredibly confident in our business model and our strategic positioning over the next few years. So let me discuss our path forward.

Speaker 5: We are incredibly confident in our business model and our strategic positioning over the next few years. So let me discuss our path forward.

Speaker 5: Our first and highest priority remains investing in the business.

Our first and highest priority remains investing in the business our business generates a greater than 6% return on receivables, which translates into a return on adjusted capital of over 30%. We will continue to prioritize investment in balance sheet.

Speaker 5: Our business generates a greater than 6% return on receivables, which translates into a return on adjusted capital of over 30%. We will continue to prioritize investment in balance sheet growth that meets these attractive returns. We will also continue to invest in digital, technology, data science, and new products.

Growth that meets these attractive returns we will also continue to invest in digital technology data science and new products.

Speaker 5: These investments are essential fuel for the approximately $4 billion of cumulative capital generation that we anticipate over the next three years.

These investments are essential fuel for the approximately $4 billion of cumulative capital generation that we anticipate over the next three years.

Speaker 5: We will also continue to consider acquisitions to drive our strategy and shareholder value. We've made small investments in the FinTech space over the past couple of years, including our acquisition of Trim last year. We've looked at several credit card platforms, but chose to build our own card, taking advantage of the synergies with our customer base and operating platform.

We will also continue to consider acquisitions to drive our strategy and shareholder value. We've made small investments in the fintech space over the past couple of years, including our acquisition of trim last year, we've looked at several credit card platforms, but chose to build our own.

Card, taking advantage of the synergies with our customer base and operating platform we.

Speaker 5: We will continue to look at other opportunities to enhance our business and will remain open to strategically and opportunistically deploying capital to acquisitions that drive shareholder value.

We will continue to look at other opportunities to enhance our business and will remain open to strategically and opportunistically deploying capital to acquisitions that drive shareholder value.

Speaker 5: Any capital that we don't deploy to our balance sheet or growth initiatives will be returned to shareholders in a manner we believe maximizes value.

Any capital that we don't deploy to our balance sheet or growth initiatives will be returned to shareholders in a manner, we believe maximizes value.

Speaker 5: Yesterday, we announced that we are increasing our regular dividend by $1, or 36%. We've said in the past that we are shifting our capital allocation to be more consistent and predictable.

Yesterday, we announced that we are increasing our regular dividend by $1 or 36%. We've said in the past that we are shifting our capital allocation to be more consistent and predictable. This robust regular dividend is well within our comfort range and down.

Speaker 5: This robust regular dividend is well within our comfort range and downturn planning scenario.

Turn planning scenarios.

Speaker 5: This $3.80 regular dividend translates into over 7% yield at our current share price.

This $3.80 regular dividend translates into over 7% yield at our current share price.

Speaker 5: At this time, we decided to have a large step up in our regular dividend, given our confidence in the business and as we transition our capital return policy to one that shareholders can count on year in and year out. We also plan to increase the regular dividend annually.

At this time, we decided to have a large step up in our regular dividend given our confidence in the business and as we transition our capital return policy to one that shareholders can count on year in and year out. We also plan to increase the regular dividend.

Annually.

Speaker 5: Our board has also authorized a $1 billion share repurchase plan, and we expect to utilize approximately one-third of that in 2022. We expect share repurchases to be a meaningful per share growth lever to our already strong prospects for organic business growth.

Our board has also authorized a $1 billion share repurchase plan and we expect to utilize approximately one third of that in 2022, we expect share repurchases to be a meaningful per share growth lever to our already strong prospects.

For organic business growth.

Speaker 5: With that, let me turn the call over to Micah to take you through the financial details of the fourth quarter and provide our 2022 strategic priorities.

With that let me turn the call over to Mike to take you through the financial details of the fourth quarter and provide our 2022 strategic priorities.

Thanks, Doug and good morning, everyone.

Speaker 6: We had a great quarter as strong demand for our loans combined with execution against our growth initiatives continues to drive healthy receivables growth.

We had a great quarter as strong demand for our loans combined with execution against our growth initiatives continues to drive healthy receivables growth as.

Speaker 6: As Doug mentioned, net charge-offs were strong, coming in at 4.2% for both the quarter and the full year.

As Doug mentioned net charge offs were strong coming in at four 2% for both the quarter and the full year.

Speaker 6: We earned $262 million on a gap basis, or $2.02 per diluted share in the quarter.

We earned $262 million on a GAAP basis or $2 <unk> per diluted share in the quarter.

Speaker 6: On an adjusted CNI basis, we earned $310 million, or $2.38 per diluted share, down 14% on a per share basis from the fourth quarter of 2020.

On an adjusted C&I basis, we earned $310 million or $2.38 per diluted share down 14% on a per share basis from the fourth quarter of 2020.

Recall that prior year results benefited from loan loss reserve reductions of nearly $60 million, whereas in the current quarter, we've increased loan loss reserves by $32 million driven by solid growth in our receivables.

Speaker 6: Recall that prior year results benefited from low-moss reserve reductions of nearly $60 million. Whereas in the current quarter, we've increased low-moss reserves by $32 million, driven by solid growth in our receiv-

Speaker 6: Capital generation was $334 million in the fourth quarter, up 2% compared to prior years.

Capital generation was $334 million in the fourth quarter up 2% compared to prior year.

Speaker 6: For the full year, capital generation was 1.3 billion, up 23% over prior year.

For the full year capital generation was one 3 billion up 23% over prior year.

Managed receivables grew to $19 $6 billion up.

Speaker 6: Managed receivables grew to $19.6 billion, up $499 million from the third quarter, and up $1.5 billion, or 9%, from a year ago, reflecting strong consumer demand and the continued positive impact from our growth initiative.

$499 million from the third quarter, and up $1 5 billion or 9% from a year ago, reflecting strong consumer demand and the continued positive impact from our growth initiatives.

Interest income was $1 $1 billion in the fourth quarter up 2% compared to prior year, primarily driven by higher receivables.

Speaker 6: Interest income was $1.1 billion in the fourth quarter, up 2% compared to prior year, primarily driven by higher receivables.

Portfolio yield was 23, 3% in the quarter as compared to 23, 8% in the third quarter.

Speaker 6: Portfolio yield was 23.3% in the quarter as compared to 23.8% in the third quarter.

Speaker 6: Fourth quarter yield reflects normal seasonal increases in 90 plus delinquency, as well as the impact from new initiatives, including growth in our prime pricing and new distribution trends.

Fourth quarter yield reflects normal seasonal increases in 90, plus delinquency as well as the impact from new initiatives, including growth in our prime pricing and new distribution channels.

Speaker 6: As you can see on slide 9, these originations are driving very attractive returns of 6%, but do shift some of the metrics when compared to our core loan.

As you can see on slide nine these originations are driving very attractive returns of 6%, but do shift some of the metrics when compared to our core loans.

We anticipate full year 2022 yield to be at similar levels to <unk> 21. However, we expect the first quarter to reflect normal and seasonal 90, plus delinquency trends.

Speaker 6: We anticipate full year 2022 yield to be at similar levels to 4Q21. However, we expect the first quarter to reflect normal and seasonal 90-plus delinquency trends.

Speaker 6: While yield has moved around a bit, we expect to see continued improvement in our interest expense and other metrics, and expect overall improvement in our 2022 profitability when compared to historical levels.

While yield has moved around a bit we expect to see continued improvement in our interest expense and other metrics and expect overall improvement in our 2022 profitability when compared to historical levels.

Speaker 6: Interest expense was $233 million for the quarter, down 4% versus the prior year, despite an increase in average debt.

Interest expense was $233 million for the quarter down 4% versus the prior year, Despite an increase in average debt.

Speaker 6: Interest expense as a percentage of average receivables, improved 51 basis points year over year from 5.4% a year ago to 4.9% this quarter, and improved 19 basis points sequentially.

Interest expense as a percentage of average receivables improved 51 basis points year over year from five 4% a year ago to four 9% this quarter and improved 19 basis points sequentially.

Speaker 6: We expect to see continued improvement in our interest expense over the next several quarters as our funding costs benefit from the last few years of balance sheet strategy and liability management. We expect to see continued improvement in our interest expense over the next several quarters as our funding costs benefit from the last few years of balance sheet strategy

We expect to see continued improvement in our interest expense over the next several quarters as our funding cost benefit from the last few years, our balance sheet strategy and liability management.

Speaker 6: We remain acutely aware of the potential for rising interest rates. Yet we are very confident in our projections as nearly 90% of our 2022 debt is already on the books at fixed interest rates.

We remain acutely aware of the potential for rising interest rates. Yes, we are very confident in our projections is nearly 90% of our 2022 that is already on the books at fixed interest rates.

Speaker 6: And as we look out over the next two years, we have $3.3 billion of debt maturing at an average cost of funds of about 5%.

And as we look out over the next two years, we have $3 3 billion of debt maturing at an average cost of funds of about 5%.

Speaker 6: As a comparison point, we issued $3.2 billion at an average cost of 2.3% in 2021.

As a comparison point, we issued $3 2 billion at an average cost of two 3% in 2021.

Speaker 6: We have created a great deal of flexibility in our funding profile as a result of years of balance sheet development and a very deliberate strategy to extend the duration of our maturities and shift our debt to a larger mix of unsecured.

We have created a great deal of flexibility on our funding profile as a result of years of balance sheet development and a very deliberate strategy to extend the duration of our maturities and shift our debt to a larger mix of unsecured.

This strategy has supported our liquidity over the years and is now paying off and our financial results.

Speaker 6: This strategy has supported our liquidity over the years and is now paying off in our financial results.

Speaker 6: Let me move on to other revenue, which was $161 million in the fourth quarter, up 18% compared to the prior year.

Let me move on to other revenue, which was $161 million in the fourth quarter up 18% compared to the prior year quarter.

Speaker 6: The increase was primarily driven by economics from our whole loan sale program, including $17 million of gain on sale revenue from the approximately $180 million of loans sold during the quarter. We anticipate this level of sales and gains to continue in future quarters.

The increase was primarily driven by economics from our whole loan sale program, including $17 million of gain on sale revenue from the approximately $180 million of loans sold during the quarter.

We anticipate this level of sales and gains to continue in future quarters.

Speaker 6: Finally, policyholder benefits and claims expense was $50 million in the quarter, up from $41 million in the prior year.

Finally, Polish policyholder benefits and claims expense was $50 million in the quarter up from $41 million in the prior year.

Speaker 6: Let's now turn to slide 8 to review our originations and receivables trend.

Let's now turn to slide eight to review, our originations and receivables trends.

Speaker 6: Originations were $3.8 billion in the fourth quarter, up 20% from 4Q20.

Originations were $3 8 billion in the fourth quarter up 20% from <unk> 20.

Speaker 6: Our originations led to managed receivables growth of 9% year over year and 3% sequentially.

Our originations led to managed receivables growth of 9% year over year and 3% sequentially.

Speaker 6: As a reminder, our managed receivables this quarter include $414 million of receivables sold but serviced by OneMain for our whole loan sale partner.

As a reminder, our managed receivables this quarter include $414 million of receivables sold but service by Onemain for our whole loan sale partners.

The credit performance of our portfolio continues to be in line with expectations and trending back to normal levels or early stage 30 to 89 delinquency came in at 243% up.

Speaker 6: The credit performance of our portfolio continues to be in line with expectations and trending back to normal level.

Speaker 6: Our early stage 30 to 89 delinquency came in at 2.43%, up seasonally from 2.20% in the third quarter and up from 2.28% in the fourth quarter of 2020.

Up seasonally from 220% in the third quarter and up from $2 two 8% in the fourth quarter of 2020.

Speaker 6: 90 plus delinquency came in at 1.99 percent, also up seasonally from 1.57 percent in the third quarter and up from 1.75 percent in fourth quarter.

90, plus delinquency came in at 199% also up seasonally from 157% in the third quarter and up from 175% in the fourth quarter 'twenty.

Speaker 6: Recoveries remain strong at $57 million in the quarter, or 1.18% of average receivers.

Recoveries remained strong at $57 million in the quarter or 1.18% of average receivables.

Speaker 6: Recoveries remain above historical levels of 90 basis points and contributed positively to our fourth quarter net charge offs of 4.2 percent.

Recoveries remain above historical levels of 90 basis points and contributed positively to our fourth quarter net charge offs of four 2%.

Speaker 6: For the year, net charge-offs were also 4.2% as we had projected.

For the year net charge offs were also four 2% as we had projected.

As we look forward to 2022, we expect full year charge offs to be in the range of five 6% to 6.0%.

Speaker 6: As we look forward to 2022, we expect full year charge offs to be in the range of 5.6 to 6.0%.

Speaker 6: Our loan loss reserve trends are shown on slide 11. We ended the fourth quarter with $2.1 billion of reserves and a reserve ratio of 10.9%, slightly below last quarter and modestly above the day one levels of 10.7%.

Our loan loss reserve trends are shown on slide 11, we ended the fourth quarter with $2 1 billion of reserves and a reserve ratio of 10, 9% slightly below last quarter and modestly above seasonal day, one levels of 10, 7%.

Speaker 6: We increased our reserves in the quarter by $32 million due to strong receivables growth in the quarter.

We increased our reserves in the quarter by $32 million due to strong receivables growth in the quarter.

Turning to slide 12 fourth quarter operating expense was $348 million, our full year operating expense was $1 3 billion within our guidance for the year and just 4% higher than 2019 levels, even as we have accelerated investment in our business and generated significant growth and a receiver.

Speaker 6: Turning to slide 12, fourth quarter operating expense was $348 million.

Speaker 6: Our full year operating expense was $1.3 billion. Within our guidance for the year, and just 4% higher than 2019 levels, even as we have accelerated investment in our business and generated significant growth in our receivables.

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Speaker 6: Let's turn to slide 13 for a little deeper dive into our expenses over the last few years.

Let's turn to slide 13 for a little deeper dive into our expenses over the last few years.

Speaker 6: You see on this slide that we have maintained our core CNI expense, the dark blue portions of the bar graph, at a very balanced level.

You see on this slide that we have maintained our core C&I expense the dark blue portions of the bar graph.

At a very balanced level in.

Speaker 6: In fact, core C&I expense is flat to 2019, despite nearly 8% growth in average receivables and accelerated investment over that period. This reflects our disciplined expense management, operating efficiency efforts, and the operating leverage inherent in our business.

In fact core C&I expenses flat to 2019, despite nearly 8% growth in average receivables and accelerated investment over that period. This reflects our disciplined expense management operating efficiency efforts and the operating leverage inherent in our business.

Speaker 6: For 2022, we expect modest growth in our core expenses and within our long-term operating framework, a three to five percent.

For 2022, we expect modest growth in our core expenses and within our long term operating framework of 3% to 5%.

We have also been accelerating investment in our future and new Tech digital customer experience data science and new products in 2022, we expect to invest an additional $50 million in these areas.

Speaker 6: We have also been accelerating investment in our future in new tech, digital, customer experience, data science, and new products.

Speaker 6: In 2022, we expect to invest an additional $50 million in these areas.

Speaker 6: About 60% we plan to direct to growth-related investment in new products and distribution channels, including our credit card.

About 60%, we plan to direct to growth related investment in new products and distribution channels, including our credit card.

Speaker 6: The remainder, we plan to invest in our technology capabilities, digital and customer experience capabilities, and data science to drive growth and continue to enhance our underwriting.

The remainder we plan to invest in our technology capabilities digital and customer experience capabilities and data science to drive growth and continue to enhance our underwriting.

Speaker 6: Even with these investments for the future, we expect our OPEX ratio to improve against 2019 levels as we continue to drive incremental operating efficiencies across our country.

Even with these investments for the future, we expect our opex ratio to improve against the 2019 levels as we continue to drive incremental operating efficiencies across our business.

Let's now move on to discuss our funding liquidity and capital on slide 14.

Speaker 6: Let's now move on to discuss our funding, liquidity, and capital on slide 14.

Speaker 6: As we discussed on our last call, in October we issued a $1 billion ABS deal at a weighted average coupon of just 0.98%.

As we discussed on our last call in October we issued a $1 billion ABS deal.

At a weighted average coupon of just zero point, 98%.

Speaker 6: Later in the quarter, we redeemed our $1 billion unsecured 6-1 notes that were due in May of this year.

Later in the quarter, we redeemed our $1 billion unsecured six and an eighth notes that were due in may of this year.

Speaker 6: Our next unsecured maturity is now March of 2023, giving us a good deal of issuance flexibility in 2022, as I discussed a bit earlier.

Our next unsecured maturity is now March of 2023, giving us a good deal of issuance flexibility in 2022 as I discussed a bit earlier.

Speaker 6: During the quarter, we continued to enhance our liquidity position by closing a new $1 billion five-year unsecured corporate revolver, which has enabled us to reduce our conduit capacity to $6 billion.

During the quarter, we continued to enhance our liquidity position.

Closing, a new $1 billion five year unsecured corporate revolver, which has enabled us to reduce our conduit capacity to 6 billion.

Speaker 6: Unsecured corporate revolvers are rarely available to non-investment grade companies, and we believe our success is very much a reflection of our track record of strong business performance and our bank partners confidence in our balance sheet and our business.

Unsecured corporate revolvers are rarely available to non investment grade companies and we believe our success is very much a reflection of our track record of strong business performance and our bank partners confidence in our balance sheet and our business.

Speaker 6: Our total committed capacity now stands at our targeted level of $7 billion, which supports a liquidity runway in excess of 24 months under numerous economic scenarios.

Our total committed capacity now stands at our targeted level of $7 billion, which supports our liquidity runway in excess of 24 months under numerous economic scenarios.

You'll see on the slide that we ended the year with $400 million of available cash and unencumbered receivables of $10 2 billion. So our liquidity resources remain robust.

Speaker 6: You see on the slide that we ended the year with $400 million of available cash and unencumbered receivables of $10.2 billion. So our liquidity resources remain robust.

Speaker 6: Going forward, we plan to use our secured conduit facilities as a source of flexible funding in between our capital markets issuance, driving even more efficiencies through our best in class balance sheet.

Going forward, we plan to use our secured conduit facilities as a source of flexible funding and between our capital markets issuance driving even more efficiencies through our best in class balance sheet.

We had $600 million of drawn conduit as of December 31.

Speaker 6: We had 600 million of drawn conduit as of December 31st.

Yeah.

At year end, our leverage was five five times relatively flat to Q3 as strong capital generation in the quarter allowed us to repurchase $192 million of Onemain stock and returned another $90 million to shareholders through our regular dividend.

Speaker 6: relatively flat to Q3 as strong capital generation in the quarter allowed us to repurchase 192 million dollars of one main stock and return another 90 million to shareholders through our regular dividend.

Going forward, we expect to continue to run our business within our long standing leverage range of four to six times.

Speaker 6: Going forward, we expect to continue to run our business within our long-standing leverage range of 4-6 ties.

Speaker 6: Let me end by recapping some of our 2022 guidance.

Let me end by recapping some of our 2022 guidance.

Speaker 6: We expect managed receivables to grow 5 to 10 percent, in line with our long-term operating framework.

We expect managed receivables to grow 5% to 10% in line with our long term operating framework.

Speaker 6: We expect net charge-offs in the range of 5.6 to 6.0%.

We expect net charge offs in the range of five 6% to 6.0%.

We expect capital generation return on receivables to be approximately 6%.

Speaker 6: We expect capital generation return on receivables to be approximately 6%.

Speaker 6: This target compares very favorably to 2018 and 2019. Years that, of course, were unaffected by the pandemic.

This target compares very favorably to two or 2018 in 2019 years that of course were unaffected by the pandemic.

Speaker 6: And as you know, we run our business to optimize capital generation, and we expect to generate a very healthy 1.15 to 1.2 billion in 2022.

And as you know, we run our business to optimize capital generation and we expect to generate a very healthy 1.15 to $1 2 billion in 2022.

Speaker 6: As we incorporate the announced share buyback program, we expect capital generation per share to be between $9.10 and $9.50. With that, I'd like to turn the call back to...

As we incorporate the announced share buyback program, we expect capital generation per share to be between $9 10.

$9 50.

With that I'd like to turn the call back to Doug.

Thanks, Mike.

One main occupies a unique and important place in the lending market for non prime consumers.

Speaker 5: One main occupies a unique and important place in the lending market for non-prime consumers. As many banks have vacated this space, we remain as a responsible place for customers to get access to credit at a fair price with excellent service. We pride ourselves on providing access to credit to our customers with a focus on ensuring they can afford it and pay us back.

As many banks have vacated this space, we remain as a responsible place for customers to get access to credit at a fair price with excellent service, we pride ourselves on providing access to credit to our customers with a focus on ensuring they can afford it and pay us back.

This means success for our customers and for our business, we doubled down on our mission of improving the financial well being of hard working Americans and the foundational strength of our business and the investments in innovation are propelling us to our vision of <unk>.

Speaker 5: This means success for our customers and for our business. We've doubled down on our mission of improving the financial well-being of hardworking Americans. And the foundational strength of our business and the investments in innovation are propelling us to our vision of being the lender of choice for the non-prime consumer.

Being the lender of choice for the non prime consumer.

Speaker 5: At the start of the call, I mentioned the strong financial results and some of the significant milestones achieved in 2021.

At the start of the call I mentioned, the strong financial results and some of the significant milestones achieved in 2021.

Speaker 5: I never lose sight of the fact that our success is a result of the effort, dedication, and accomplishments of our more than 8,500 OneMain team members who come to work every day to make a difference for our customers and our shareholders. I thank them for that dedication and hard work throughout a particularly difficult environment in 2021.

I never lose sight of the fact that our success is a result of the effort dedication and accomplishments of our more than 8500 Onemain team members, who come to work every day to make a difference for our customers and our shareholders I thank them for their dedication.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all for joining us today, and we're happy to take your questions.

Thank you all for joining us today, and we're happy to take your questions.

Speaker 3: The floor is now open for questions. At this time, if you have a question or comment, please press star 1 on your touch tone phone. If at any point your question is answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing the pound key. Again, we do ask that while you pose your question that you pick up your handset to allow optimal sound quality.

The floor is now open for questions. At this time, if you have a question or comment. Please press star one on your Touchtone phone is at any point. Your question is answered you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing the pound key again, we go as Hawaii poised. Your question that you pick up your handset to allow optimal sound quality.

Speaker 3: And we will take our first question from Michael Kay with Wells Fargo.

And we will take our first question from Michael Kaye with Wells Fargo.

Speaker 7: Hi, good morning. You're seeing a large ramp up in net charges and delinquencies, you know, ahead of most of the consumer finance industry. Can you talk a little bit more about what gives you confidence? This is just credit normalization, and not a more broad deterioration in credit. Like for example, are there any underlying trends in your vantage point that gives you confidence in any part of the portfolio that's over performing or underperforming your credit expectation.

Hi, good morning, Youre seeing a large ramp up in net charge offs of delinquencies go ahead of most of the consumer finance industry could you talk a little bit more about what gives you confidence. This is just credit normalization and not a more broad deterioration in credit like for example are there any underlying trends from your vantage point that gives you confidence in that.

Any part of the portfolio, that's over performing or underperforming your credit expectations.

Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Michael. This is Micah. You know, as you guys know, we, you know, we are underrate by state. We are underwrite by industry. We have a long history of credit profile and performance with this customer base. We also underwrite to income, which is unique.

Hey, Good morning, Michael This is Mike.

You know as you guys as you know we you know when you underwrite by state we underwrite by industry, we have a long history of credit profile and performance with this customer base. We also underwrite two to income which is unique in the industry. We're constantly evaluating credit performance and we're adjusting as we see results.

Speaker 6: in the industry. You know, we're constantly evaluating credit performance and we're adjusting as we see results. Overall, I think consumer balance sheets remain strong. You know, we feel really good about the overall performance of the portfolio and you know that view is embedded in our 5.6 to 6.0 percent loss guidance for 2022.

Overall, I think consumer balance sheets remained strong and we feel really good about the overall performance of the portfolio and that view is embedded in our five 6% to 6.0% loss guidance for 2022 now we remain focused on our long term profitability of the business, but we feel good about both.

Speaker 6: We remain focused on the long term profitability of the business, but we feel good about both.

Uh huh.

I thought I heard Darcy mentioned.

Speaker 7: Okay, 6 to 7% net loss operating framework. I was a little surprised it's not a little bit lower now, just given that the high, you know, some of those new products, the higher prime originations, the distribution partnerships, the whole long sales. I was wondering why that 6 to 7% doesn't really become something lower, let's say, you know, 6 to 6.5%.

7% net loss operating framework I was little surprised it's not a little bit lower now.

Given that some.

Some of those new products to high.

Higher prime originations, but distribution partnerships the whole loan sales I was wondering why that 6% to 7% doesn't really becomes something lower let's say.

Six to six 5%.

Speaker 5: Yeah, hey Michael, you know look, I think on an annual basis we'll give you some sense of loss ranges.

Yeah, Hey, Michael look I think on an annual basis will will give you. Some sense of loss range is we really don't manage the business to losses, we manage it to return on receivables in capital generation and so I think that's just a long term framework that I wanted to remind debra.

Speaker 5: We really don't manage the business to losses. We manage it to return on receivables and capital generation. And so I think that's just a long-term framework that I wanted to remind everyone that we're well within and we're actually going to be under.

The one that we're well within and we're actually going to be under.

Speaker 5: this year, and I think the way to think about it is, we manage to risk adjusted returns, and we have different profiles of different customers, and what we're looking at is the bottom line of the business so that's how we think about it.

This year and I think the way to think about it is we managed to risk adjusted returns and we have different profiles of different customers and what we're looking at is the bottom line of the business. So that's how we think about it.

Okay. Thank you.

Thanks, Michael.

We will take our next question from Vincent <unk> with Stephens Your line I apologize.

Speaker 3: We'll take our next question from Vintacantic with Stephen's, Your Night, or I apologize. Your mind is now open.

Line is now open.

Speaker 8: Okay, great. Thank you. Good morning. First, on the credit card, so excited to see that that's launched. Maybe you could talk about the initial earnings there and what you're thinking about for illustrative economics of the card and that pathway to 100 to 150 million by 2025. Any initial thoughts you can give on that path.

Okay, great. Thank you and good morning first on the credit card. So excited to see that that's launched maybe if you could talk about the initial learnings there and what youre thinking about for illustrative economics of the card and.

You know that pathway to $100 million to $150 million by 'twenty three five any initial thoughts you can give on that path.

Speaker 5: Yeah, look, you know, Vincent, I think it's still early days, but everything we've seen is positive. You know, our goal was to have a positive response to COVID-19.

Yeah look.

Vincent I think it's still early days, but everything we've seen is positive.

Goal was to have.

Speaker 5: 60,000 pilot accounts opened by the end of the year and we were right around.

60000 pilot accounts.

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Speaker 5: that number, you know, we've got enough in the test cells of both our Brightway

That number.

We've got enough in the test sales of both our bright way.

Speaker 5: which is a little lower credit line, kind of a feeder card for the rest of our business and our Brightway Plus, which is more current customers, higher credit line.

Which is a little lower credit line.

Kind of a feeder card for the rest of our business in a bright way plus which is more current customers higher credit line.

Speaker 5: take-up rates and our cost of acquisition have been

Take up rates and our cost of acquisition have been.

Speaker 5: excellent and better than our projections. I've always talked about this digital first card. We built a excellent app where we're encouraging all the interaction to happen. And as I mentioned, 90% of cards we approve have installed the app and 90% of payments so far are coming through the app.

Excellent.

Better than our projections due I've always talked about this digital first card.

We built a excellent app, where we're encouraging all of the interaction to happen and you know as I mentioned, 90% of cards, we approve have installed the app and 90% of payments. So far are coming through the App you know.

Speaker 5: That allows us for both the card and our other products just to have deeper engagement and a new way to engage and reach customers.

That allows us for both the card and our other products just to have deeper engagement and a new way to engage and reach customers.

The next.

Speaker 5: I'd say call it six months is going to be a cooling off period. We're not going to be issuing many cards. We'll issue a few. You know, I always talked about three things we're looking for. One is do people take our card? I think we've seen the take up rates being good.

I'd say call. It six months is going to be a cooling off period, we're not going to be issuing many cards will issue a few.

I always talked about three things. We're looking for one is do people take our card I think we've seen the take up rates being good second do people use the line and we've seen good line usage and then the third is credit results and really season, our credit models that we need another six months I think you can expect re.

Speaker 5: Second, do people use the line? And we've seen good line usage. And then the third is credit results and really season our credit model. That we need another six months. I think you can expect ramp up at the end of the year, assuming.

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Speaker 5: we see the results we want. If we don't, I think you'll still see some ramp in the areas where we see the results because we have different channels that are coming in, different cards, different customer profiles. As far as the economics, we think...

We see the results we want.

We don't I think you'll still see some ramp in the areas, where we see the results because we have different channels that are coming in different cards different customer profiles.

As far as the economics, we think.

Speaker 5: You know, the return on receivables as we get into steady state and this matures are going to be 7% so they'll be very favorable to our current.

The return on receivables as we get into steady state in this mature fares are going to be 7%, so there'll be very favorable to.

Our current product.

Speaker 5: You know, I think we need a little more time. We feel very confident we'll work things out and we wanted to give you a sense of the kind of profitability you could see in 2025. As we roll it out and we know what the rollout schedule looks like, you know, we can give you more information about.

I think we need a little more time, we feel very confident will work things out and we wanted to give you a sense of the kind of profitability you could see.

In 2025.

As we roll it out and we know what the rollout schedule looks like.

Can give you more information about.

Speaker 5: kind of the milestones of balances and profitability along the way. I think the thing I want to emphasize is, you know, everything's looking great now. We're very pleased with what we've seen, but we're also going to be very careful and we're going to roll this out in a very deliberate and measured way so we make sure we have the results we want as we get into looking at credit.

The milestones.

Our balance is in profitability along the way I think the thing I want to emphasize is <unk>.

Everything is looking great now, we're very pleased with what we've seen but we're also going to be very careful and we're going to roll this out.

And a very deliberate and measured.

Measured way so we make sure we have the results we want as we get into the you know looking at credit.

Speaker 8: Great, thank you. And then next question, just the ranges could be 2022 guidance. Maybe if you could talk about how do you get to the low and high end of the range for, say, the originations and then also for the charge offs. And does the charge off ranges, and you've talked about the risk adjusted return, does that influence by maybe the yield that we should be expecting in 2022? Thank you.

Great. Thank you and then.

Next question just the ranges to be 2022 guidance.

Maybe if you could talk about how you get to the low and high end of the range for say the originations and then also for the.

Net charge offs and does the charge off range is I know you've talked about the the risk adjusted return does that.

No influenced by maybe the yield that we should be expecting in 2022.

Okay.

Speaker 6: Thanks, Vincent. Let me grab the first part of your question.

Thanks, Vincent let me, let me grab the first part of your question.

And then if I.

Speaker 6: if I missed the second one, remind me. But in terms of the guidance and the ranges, our five to 10% managed receivables growth range does come from our just overall operating framework, which is based on the market we play and we think.

I missed the second one remind me but the.

In terms of the guidance and the ranges are 5% to 10% risk managed receivables growth range does come from our just overall operating framework, which is based on the market we play and we think.

Speaker 6: It's reasonable to expect 5 to 10% on average and over time. So we sort of start the year there. We feel good about that range. You know, in terms of the credit, and I'll talk a little bit about both of these relative to macro factors and then our own portfolio.

It's reasonable to expect 5% to 10% on average and over time, so we sort of start the year. There we feel good about that range.

In terms of the credit and I'll talk a little bit about both of these relative to macro factors and then our own portfolio.

Speaker 6: You know, with credit, there's certainly a lot of factors that will influence the 5.6 to 6.0 range, you know, include things like unemployment, wage growth, inflation are three that I think of immediately. You know, that said, we have a well-diversified portfolio as well by state, so the state-level economics are also very important, not just national-level stats. You know, within our...

Credit Theres certainly a lot of factors that will influence to five six to 6.0 range.

Include things like on them things like unemployment wage growth inflation are three that I think are immediately you know that said, we have a well diversified portfolio as well bye bye state. So the state level economics are also very important not just national.

Level stats in.

Within our book overall delinquency levels, obviously are a big factor, but the velocity at which delinquency moves to loss is also key and if you look at 2021 the ratio between 90, plus and losses a quarter later is still running lower than historical norms.

Speaker 6: Overall delinquency levels obviously are a big factor, but the velocity at which delinquency moves to loss is also key. And you know, if you look at 2021, you know, if you look at the numbers, you know, the

Speaker 6: The ratio between 90 plus and losses a quarter later is still running lower than historical norms. That's due to both...

Due to both continued.

<unk> performance of back ending delinquency roll rates, which we've talked about before but also recoveries that may remain really strong and so both of those things how they normalize over the next year are going to also influence that range on charge offs and then to a lesser degree of course, the receivables growth, which is a denominator.

Speaker 6: things, how they normalize over the next year are going to also influence that range on charge-offs and then to a lesser degree, of course, the receivables growth, which is a denominator. I think on the receivables side of things, you know, just following up on the operating framework where I started, a little bit less sensitive to credit and macro factors. You know, in general, our consumers have demand for credit when they feel good about the future, so a healthy economic backdrop is important. You know, competition plays a factor as well, but we aren't seeing really any imped...

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A little bit less sensitive to credit and macro factors you know in general our consumers have demand for credit when they feel good about the future. So a healthy economic backdrop is important competition plays a factor as well, but we arent seeing really any impediments to growth. There I think your second question, which was around net interest.

Speaker 6: have demand for credit when they feel good about the future, so a healthy economic backdrop is important. You know, competition plays a factor as well, but we aren't seeing really any impediments to growth there. I think your second question, which was around net interest margin as it relates to yield vote!

Margin as it relates to yield as.

Speaker 6: As we mentioned, we expect full year yield to be around 4Q21 levels. We think 1Q just from normal seasonal trends will be a bit lower than the 4Q21 level.

As we mentioned.

We expect full year yield to be around <unk> 21 levels, we think <unk> just from normal seasonal trends will be a bit lower.

And then for Q2 for Q2 1 level.

Speaker 6: But we do anticipate NIM, which is, you know, put credit losses aside for a second, if you look at net interest margin, which incorporates our interest expense.

But we do anticipate NIM, which is put put credit losses aside for a second if you look at net interest margin, which incorporates our interest expense, we expect that to be strong next year. We do have a significant tail winds on our interest expense, which we believe will offset the year over year.

Speaker 6: We expect that to be strong next year. We do have significant tailwinds on our interest expense, which we believe will offset the year over year impact of the

Impact of E D.

Speaker 6: the decline in yield and then obviously with our guide on capital generation return on receivables we expect a very very strong performance that compares well against pre-pandemic periods.

The decline in yield and then obviously with our guide on capital generation return on receivables, we expect a very very strong performance that compares well against pre pandemic periods.

Okay, great. Thanks very much.

Thanks Vincent.

We will take our next question from Kevin Barker with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Thank you could you just clarify the term capital generation for for the listeners here.

Speaker 9: We will take our next question from Kevin Barker with Piper Fanler. Your line is now open. Thank you. Could you just clarify the term capital generation?

Speaker 9: for listeners here. I assume it's net income plus adjustments for any reserve bill to reserve releases relative to the loan portfolio. Could you just clarify that?

Assume it's net income plus adjustments for any reserve build the reserve releases relative to the loan portfolio could you just clarify that.

Speaker 6: Sure, Kevin. Yeah, that's exactly right. So, you know, I come back to capital generation as it relates to the way we view our capital. We use for our leverage metric and adjusted capital measure, which is defined quite clearly in the appendix of our earnings materials. We look at loss absorption capital, which is a combination of our adjusted tangible equity plus

Sure Kevin Yeah, that's exactly right. So I come back to capital generation as it relates to the way we view our capital.

We use for our leverage metric and adjusted capital measure, which is defined quite clearly in the appendix of our earnings materials.

We look at loss absorption capital, which is a combination of our adjusted tangible equity plus our reserves after tax so that forms the basis for our our capital when we look at capital formation.

Speaker 6: our reserves after tax. So that forms the basis for our capital. When we look at capital formation, our adjusted capital is roughly $3 billion in that neighborhood.

Our adjusted Capitals, roughly $3 billion in that neighborhood. When we look at capital generation that we put out here 115 O two 1 billion to.

Speaker 6: When we look at capital generation that we put out here, 1.50 to 1.2 billion, that becomes the capital formation of the business as it relates to our existing and beginning capital level.

That becomes the capital formation of the business as it relates to our existing and beginning capital levels. So that capital generation is tied directly to the way, we view capital and the way, we manage and run the business.

Speaker 6: So that capital generation is tied directly to the way we view capital and the way we manage and run the business. What it excludes, and you articulated it well, all it excludes is the loan loss reserve changes in our portfolio. Due to that, the way we look at those...

What it excludes and you articulated it well all it excludes is the loan loss reserve changes in our portfolio.

Due to that the way, we look at those within our capital base.

Speaker 9: And could you remind us the per share number you put out? I believe it was 910 to 950. Is that correct? 910 to 950, correct. OK.

And could you remind us the per share number you put out I believe was up 910 to 950 is that correct.

910 to 950 correct okay.

Then on your targeted reserve levels.

Speaker 10: You're at 10.9% on your portfolio today. You're guiding to lower net charge offs for this year relative to what you've had in pre-pandemic levels. And you're at 10.9% on your portfolio today.

You know you're at 10, 9% on your portfolio today.

Got into lower net charge offs for this year relative to what you've had.

And pre pandemic levels.

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Speaker 10: you know, it seems like you could bring that lower, just given the shifts in the portfolio. Is there anything within the newer products and the shifts in the portfolio that would either impact

You know it seems like you could bring that lower just.

Just given the shifts in our portfolio is there anything within the newer products and the shifts in our portfolio that would either impact.

Speaker 10: the reserve level, whether it's net charge-offs or the duration of the portfolio.

The reserve level, whether it's net charge offs or the duration of the portfolio.

Yeah, I mean, all of those certainly could impact where we end up on the sort of resting reserve rate. If you will where we were at 10, 7% when.

Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean all those certainly could impact where we end up on the, you know, the sort of resting reserve rate, if you will. We were at 10.7% when we installed Cecil several years ago, and that was first quarter of 2020, which is almost two years ago. So, you know, I will say the portfolio is different today than it was two years ago. We have some of these new products coming in.

When we installed C sold several years ago and that was the first quarter of 2020, which is almost two years ago. So you know I will say the portfolio is different today.

Today than it was two years ago, we have some of these new products coming in and we sit today at about 10, 9% of receivables so call that roughly $50 million higher than pre COVID-19 levels.

Speaker 6: And, you know, we fit today at about 10.9% of receivables. So, call that roughly $50 million higher than pre-COVID levels.

Speaker 6: I certainly can see if macroeconomic trends continue to be strong and we expect and see strong performance in the portfolio in the coming quarters, that reserve certainly could move back towards those day one seasonal levels. I think there's a lot to still be.

I certainly can see if macroeconomic trends continued to be strong and we expect to see strong performance in the portfolio the coming quarters that reserve certainly could move back towards those those.

Day, one seasonal levels.

I think theres a lot to still be b.

Speaker 9: be determined. We tend to be conservative in our balance sheet, as we said, and very aggressive in managing our business and our performance. So, you know, we take a degree of conservatism here with our reserving until we really feel confident with the level that we feel we can be sustained at. Thank you for taking my time.

Be determined we tend to be conservative in our balance sheet as we've said and very aggressive in managing our our business and our performance. So we take a degree of conservatism here with our reserving.

So we really feel confident with the level that we feel we can be sustained out.

Thank you for taking my questions Micah.

Thank you Kevin appreciate it thanks, Kevin.

Speaker 3: And we will take our next question from Mocha Ormback with Credit Sweece, Your Line is Now Open.

We will take our next question from Moshe Orenbuch with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Great. Thanks.

Speaker 9: Great, thanks. I think, Micah, you had referred to the fact that your growth guidance has been consistent and went back to looked and it was

I think I think Mike would you agree.

Two the fact that your outgrowth guidance has been consistent and went back and looked at it was kind of the same pretty much in 2018 and 19 I think in 2018, you kind of came at the high end a little bit above.

Speaker 9: kind of the same pretty much in 2018 and 19. I think in 2018 you kind of came at the high end of 19, a little bit above. As you look out now with the benefit of these other elements, can you talk about how kind of the new products kind of enter into that, the idea of selling loans? How should we think about those in the context of your side.

As you look out now with the benefit of CS other.

Elements can you talk about how you know kind of the new products kind of enter into that.

Selling loans.

How should we think about those in the context of your.

5% to 10% guidance.

Yeah, Thanks, Moshe and good morning, the 5% to 10% is definitely reflective of all the new products we have.

Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, thanks Moshe, and good morning. The 5 to 10% is definitely reflective of all the new products we have.

Speaker 6: You know, to some extent that also can include our expected balances on our credit card by the end of the year. So when we look at receivables, we're gonna be looking at the full picture of the credit card and the loan receivables. We'll of course be breaking that out for you in the future, but in the context of our guidance, credit cards included in there, all of our new distribution channels, our prime pricing, et cetera. It is consistent with what we've seen in the past. And, you know, we feel pretty.

To some extent that also can include our expected balances on our credit card by the end of the year. So when we look at receivables we're gonna be looking at.

<unk> picture of the credit card and the loan receivables will of course be breaking that out for you in the future, but in the context of our guidance credit cards included in there all of our new distribution channels are prime pricing et cetera.

It is consistent with what we've seen in the past then.

We feel pretty good about.

Speaker 6: what the overall environment looks like for consumer credit. And as such, we felt good putting out that 5% to 10% guidance again.

What the overall environment looks like for credit for consumer credit and as such we felt good putting out that 5% to 10% guidance again that is on a managed receivables basis. So you know as you think about ending on balance sheet receivables. We had about 400, just just over 400.

<unk> million dollars of receivables that are in that managed receivables number at the end of the year that had been sold and serviced by our whole loan sale partners.

Speaker 9: dollars of receivables that are in that managed receivables number at the end of the year that had been sold and serviced by our whole loan sale partners. We are selling about $180 million per quarter, and so you can factor that in. I would think about, as you're trying to come up with an estimate for our receivables at the end of the year, use the managed receivables growth, incorporate some assumption for credit card, and then I would take the $180 million of asset sales and add that to the end of year balances for the loan.

We are selling about $180 million per quarter, and so you can factor that in I would I would think about as you're trying to come up with a an estimate for our receivables at the end of the year. It was the managed receivables receivables growth incorporate some assumption for for credit card and then I would take the $180 million of of <unk>.

Speaker 6: incorporate some assumption for credit card, and then I would take the $180 million of

Speaker 9: of asset sales and add that to the end of year balances for the loans that we've sold and then assume something for some runoff on that book and it'll get you to the ending balance sheet receivables.

Asset sales and add that to the end of year balances for for the loans that we've sold and then assume something for some runoff on that book and it will get you to the ending balance sheet receivables.

Speaker 11: Thanks and maybe I should have tacked this on to the prior question, but anything that you can kind of say about your you know trends in January . With that and just as a follow up question, sorry.

Got it thanks, and maybe I should have Texas onto the prior question, but anything that you can kind of say about.

Trends in January .

With that and just as a follow up question sorry.

As you you mentioned that this idea of kind of having done really a lot on the unsecured funding side said, it's now paying off is there is there an opportunity to increase the secured portion of funding over the course of 2022.

Speaker 11: You mentioned this idea of kind of having done really a lot on the unsecured funding side and then said it's now paying off. Is there an opportunity to increase the secured portion of funding over the course of 2022?

Speaker 6: Yeah, I look that's a great question and thanks, Raskin. I think we obviously, if you heard from my comments, we feel very, very good about our balance sheet. We've done a lot over the last few years. We've put ourselves in a position of strength that we can be.

Yeah look that's a great question and.

Thanks for asking I think we obviously as you heard from my comments, we feel very very good about our balance sheet. We've we've done a lot over the last few years, we've put ourselves in a position of strength that we can be opportunistic with our issuance.

Speaker 6: opportunistic with our issuance. I definitely think there's an opportunity there to move our

I definitely think there's an opportunity there to move our.

Our secured portion of our debt up a little bit. We've always said we have about a 50 50 mix that's not meant to be precise it's meant to more just be directional we want to have a healthy mix of of that lower cost ABS and utilizing our receivables for efficiency on our balance sheet, but also using the benefit and long term.

Speaker 6: That's not meant to be precise. It's meant to more just be directional. We wanna have a healthy mix of that lower cost ABS and utilizing our receivables for efficiency on our balance sheet, but also using the benefit and long-term nature of unsecured to balance our liquidity. And we've been, as the unsecured markets have been very strong, we issued at 3 1 1 2% and 3 7 8 on unsecured in 2021. Those rates obviously are a little bit higher now, probably closer in the 4 1 1 2 5% context. But we've been opportunistic. And while the unsecured market has presented opportunities for us.

Nature of unsecured to balance our liquidity and we have been as the unsecured markets have been very strong we issued at three 5% and three and $3 seven eights on unsecured in 2021.

Those rates, obviously, a little bit higher now probably closer in the four 5% to 5% context, but.

Speaker 6: But we've been opportunistic and while the unsecured market has presented opportunities for us to extend duration and liquidity, we've taken that and now that puts us in the position to maybe do a little bit more on the asset backed lower cost side. We issued in August at 1%, as you heard me say a number of times, I never thought I'd actually see that. But rates have backed up a little bit on ABS, we still think we can issue there within the 2 to 2.5% range.

But we've been opportunistic and while the unsecured market has presented opportunities for us to extend duration and liquidity, we've taken that and.

Now that puts us in the position to maybe do a little bit more on the asset backed lower cost side.

We issued in August at 1% as you heard me say a number of times I never thought I'd actually see that.

But you know rates have backed up a little bit on ABS. We still think we can issue there within the two to two 5% range.

Speaker 9: And, Cal, we feel really good. I mean, I think roughly 5% of our debt is floating rates. So we feel like we have a lot of insulation against rising rates and a lot of flexibility and opportunity within our issuance agenda.

And so we feel really good I mean, I think roughly 5% of our debt is floating rate. So we feel like we have a lot of insulation against rising rates and a lot of flexibility and opportunity.

Our issuance agenda.

Speaker 5: Emotions is Doug just hopping into your kind of first question.

Moshe This is Doug just hopping into your kind of first question I just want to make sure people understand the way we see it which is we think we're incredibly well positioned our core product our branches. We added digital distribution, we've added new products, we've done a lot of innovation.

Speaker 5: I just want to make sure people understand the way we see it, which is we think we're incredibly well positioned. Our core product, our branches, we had a digital distribution, we've added new products, we've done a lot of innovation.

Speaker 5: That's gonna allow us to grow our balance sheet. You know, as we've told you, we don't really manage the balance sheet to a certain growth. Number, we manage it to position it serve the customers well and have a good return. So you have a growing balance sheet with a six percent return. That means we can grow our bottom line and generate capital. That means we can put more capital back into growing our balance sheet and allow us to also return capital to shareholders as we grow our dividend and do buybacks, which will allow us to grow our per share cap gen even more. So we see this.

That's going to allow us to grow our balance sheet.

As we've told you we don't really manage the balance sheet to a certain growth number we manage it to position it serve the customers well and have a.

Good return so you have a growing balance sheet with a 6% return that means we can grow our bottom line and generate capital that means we can put more capital back into growing our balance sheet and allow us to also return capital to shareholders as we grow our dividend and.

Do buybacks, which will allow us to grow our per share cap Gen. Even more so we see this cycle, obviously growing the balance sheet is key to it but we're going to be disciplined and we're going to grow it based on risk adjusted returns.

Speaker 5: cycle, you know, obviously growing the balance sheet is key to it, but we're going to be disciplined and we're going to grow it based on risk adjusted return.

Thanks very much.

Speaker 3: And we will take our next question from John Hecht with Jeffries.

And we will take our next question from John Hecht with Jefferies.

Yeah.

Speaker 12: Morning, Mike at Doug and Peter, thanks for taking my questions. Morning, John . Good, thanks. Thanks. I think you mentioned tapering in the first half of this year. I just want to make sure I understood that. Just an accredited card product or is that across the board? And if it's across the board, what's the kind of driving impetus?

Morning.

Doug and Peter Thanks for taking my questions. Good.

Good morning, John .

Hey, thanks.

I think you mentioned tapering in the first half this year I just want to make sure I understand is that just in the credit card product or is that across the board and if it's across the board whats kind of driving your input.

There Yeah, let me be clear, it's not across the board I was only referring to credit card and this was always our plan, which it was.

Speaker 5: Yeah, let me be clear, it's not across the board. I was only referring to credit card. And this was always our plan, which you was, you know, third and fourth quarter of 2021.

Third and fourth quarter of 2021 put 60000 or so test accounts on than we needed six months of history of payment. So we could see any delinquencies are good.

Speaker 5: put 60,000 or so test accounts on. Then we needed six months of history of payments so we could see any delinquencies, you know, a good.

Speaker 5: you know, estimate of what's gonna happen in the future and you've got a very good read once you get to 60 days on book and I'm sorry, six months on book and delinquencies there. So that's all we're saying is, you know, it's not a steady ramp of the credit card. It was put 60,000 plus cards on.

Estimate of whats going to happen in the future and you you've got a very good read once you get to 60 days on book.

And or I'm, sorry, six months on book and delinquencies. There. So that's all we're saying is it's not a steady ramp of the credit card. It was put 60000 plus cards on.

Speaker 5: look at credit quality and ramp after that to make sure that our credit models have been validated.

Look at credit quality.

And ramp after that to make sure that our credit models are have been validated.

Great.

Speaker 12: Great. I appreciate that color. That makes 100% logical sense to pursue it that way. Follow up question is, yeah, there's been this Fed the federal loan officer survey or the bank loan officer survey showed a little bit of a pivot in underwriting for installment loans. And there's a lot of call it emerging participants, particularly in the digital channel.

I appreciate that color that that makes it a 100% logical sense to pursue it that way.

A follow up question is.

Yes, theres been the fed the fed about officer survey the Bank loan Officer survey showed a little bit of a pivot in underwriting for installment loans and yeah. There's a lot of.

Call it emerging participants, particularly in the digital channel.

Speaker 12: out there right now. Doug, I wonder, can you comment on the competitive environment?

Out there right now.

Doug I'm wondering can you comment on the competitive environment and how that impacts your kind of ability to flex your underwriting model.

Speaker 12: how that impacts your kind of ability to flex your underwriting model, and any kind of impacts it has on just the overall business.

And any kind of impacts that has on just the overall business.

Speaker 5: Yeah, look, you know, I think in second quarter of 2021, a lot of people, you know, from what we can see through the data opened up their credit box and there was a lot of competition.

Yes look.

I think in second quarter of 2021.

A lot of people from what we can see through the data opened up their credit box and there was a lot of competition.

Speaker 5: As you saw in 2021, we grew our balance sheet.

As you saw in 2021, we grew our balance sheet.

Speaker 5: by 9%, and so we think we are very well positioned.

By 9% and so we think we're very well positioned.

Speaker 5: We've been doing this for a long time, so we don't just open and close based on macro environments. We've got more proprietary customer data than any installment lender, and so we loan to people who can pay us back. We have very high NPS scores and customer loyalty, and a lot of the things you've seen us doing are making sure that in the system,

And we've been doing this for a long time. So we don't just opening close based on macro environments. We've got more proprietary customer data than any installment lender and so we loan to people who can pay us back.

We have very high NPS scores and customer loyalty and a lot of the things you've seen us doing are making sure that in.

Speaker 5: an evolving market environment, we stay competitive.

And evolving market environment, we stay competitive so.

Speaker 5: just under half of our loans are originated digitally now. Trim allows us to help customers in other ways and also increase engagement.

Just under half of our loans are originated digitally now.

Trim allows us to help customers in other ways and also increase engagement.

Speaker 5: with customers, so it's a stickier customer. The card allows us to do lending to customers for daily transactions rather than a larger episodic.

With customers. So it's a stickier customer the card.

How's us to do lending to customers for daily transactions, rather than a larger episodic.

Speaker 5: transaction and again, you know, we're bringing people in with a $500 or $1,000 card product that will have the opportunity for them to cross by alone and vice versa. And so, and Mike, I talked a little bit about new channels. So, you know, it is definitely a competitive market. Anytime there's market dislocation, things usually open up some, we've done this for many years and we feel really good about our competitive position.

Transaction and again, we were bringing people in with a $500000 card product that will have the opportunity for them to cross buy alone.

And vice versa, and so and Mike had talked a little bit about new channels. So.

It is definitely a competitive market anytime theres market dislocation things usually open up some we've done this for many years and we feel really good about our competitive position.

Thanks, very much guys.

Thank you.

Speaker 3: And we will take our next question from Mingjiao with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

We will take our next question from Bangor with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Speaker 13: Great, thanks for Good morning, guys. I wanted to ask a question on sort of your appetite for future, you know, strategic acquisitions, you know, just wanted to get a sense on whether they might be similar to sort of your your trim acquisition in terms of bolt on fine tech or sort of what you consider portfolio acquisitions as well. And then, you know, sort of separately, but related to that, how have valuations trended in the fintech space, you know, over the past couple of months, any any code there would be helpful.

Great. Thanks, Good morning, guys.

I wanted to ask a question on sort of your appetite for future strategic acquisitions.

Wanted to get a sense on when they might be similar to sort of get you trim acquisition in terms of bolt on fintech or sort of would you consider portfolio acquisitions as well and then sort of separately, but related to that how have valuations trended in the fintech space.

The past couple of months any any color there would be helpful.

Yeah look our corporate development team has been very active but we've stayed very disciplined so if we see.

Speaker 5: Yeah, look, our corporate development team has been very active, but we've stayed very disciplined. So if we see acquisitions that we think have the right ROI that strategically position-

Acquisitions that we think have the.

Right.

Roy that strategically position us well.

Speaker 5: We certainly will consider them.

We certainly will we'll consider them.

Speaker 5: But we're going to be disciplined. I mean, as you know, pricing out there is pretty frothy.

But we're gonna be disciplined I mean, as you know pricing out there is pretty frothy.

Speaker 5: especially private companies, you know, the public markets and especially tech, you know, has fluctuated and gone down some, but, you know, the multiples are still quite high for a lot of potential tech acquisitions. We've invested a lot. Like I said, we also, you know, just take card, for example, there were some credit card portfolios.

Especially private companies you know the public markets and especially Tac has fluctuated in.

Gone down some but you know the.

<unk> are still quite high for.

A lot of potential tech acquisitions, we've invested a lot like I said.

We also just take card for example, there were some credit card portfolios and platforms and teams that were on the market and got bought.

Speaker 5: and platforms and teams that were on the market and got bought. We decided we wanted to build a very highly synergistic.

We decided we wanted to build a very highly synergistic credit card that took advantage of our scale and our underwriting and our distribution.

Speaker 5: credit card that took advantage of our scale and our underwriting and our distribution.

Speaker 5: and our customer base and so we decided that it would make more sense to build it from scratch and so we will always look at a build partner by analysis as we do things.

And our customer base and so we decided that it would make more sense to build it from scratch and so we will always look at a build partner by analysis as we do things.

Speaker 5: You know, hard for me to say exactly what they would be except, you know, I'd tell you, you know, the last three years we've looked at a lot of things. We've been very disciplined. We've only done

Hard for me to say exactly what they would be except I would tell you.

For the last three years, we've looked at a lot of things we've been very disciplined we've only done.

Speaker 5: bolt-ons that are pretty...

You know bolt ons that are pretty.

Speaker 5: small and we're going to stay very disciplined because we take seriously deploying our shareholders capital.

Small and we're going to stay very disciplined because we take seriously deploying our shareholders' capital.

Speaker 13: Got it. Great. And then secondly, just on the sort of the paper on the credit card in the first half of this year, is that is that just mainly based on your decision to see how that or follow sort of seasons or Is there sort of anything else that leads to your decision, you know, to take for them the first half of this year.

Got it great and then secondly, just on the sort of the paper on the credit card in the first half of this year is that is that just mainly.

First on your decision to see how that portfolio sort of seasons or is there sort of anything else that leads to your decision to keep it in the first half of this year.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to be really clear. We started talking about the credit card a year ago, and this is the exact plan I've laid out repeatedly and publicly, which was second half of 2021. We put a bunch of pilot accounts on, and then we see how they season and make sure we validate the models. So there's been absolutely no change. This is the plan, and it's the plan we're sticking to. Got it. Great. Thank you.

Yes, I want to be really clear, we started talking about the credit card a year ago and this is the exact plan I've laid out rip.

Repeatedly and publicly which was <unk>.

Second half of 2021, we put a bunch of pilot accounts on and then we see how they season and make sure. We validate the models. So theres been absolutely no change. This is the plan and it's the plan we're sticking to.

Got it great. Thank you guys.

Thank you.

Speaker 3: And we'll take our next question from John Rowan with Jammy. Your mind is now open.

And we will take our next question from John Rowan with Janney. Your line is now open.

Good morning, guys.

Speaker 14: I just wanted to look at kind of your capital generation and if we use the assumptions that you're going through a third of your repurchase program and you're paying a dividend of 95 cents per quarter, it implies that you're actually gonna wind up de-levering the balance sheet quite a bit if given a lack of special dividends. Can you kind of address that comment?

I just wanted to.

Look at the kind of your capital generation and if we use the assumptions that you're going through a third of your repurchase program and you're paying a dividend of <unk> 95 per quarter. It implies that youre actually going to windup de levering the balance sheet quite a bit if given a lack of special dividends can you kind of address that.

Yeah that comment.

Speaker 6: Yeah John , I'm not sure if you're factoring in the capital we have to put aside for our expected growth during the year because that's a part of the equation as well.

Yes, John I'm not sure if your factoring in the capital we have to put aside for our expected growth during the year, because it's a part of the equation as well.

Speaker 6: If you look at the billion two, just for instance, to use the high end and a round number.

If I if you look at the $1 billion to just for instance to use the high end and a round number.

Speaker 6: If you look at that end of the range, the annual dividend at 380 will cost roughly 470, 480. I mean, it really somewhat depends on how many shares we buy back. But within that range, but then also a third of the billion share we purchased, call it around 330. Rough numbers. That gives you about 800. Thanks again for watching.

If you look at that end of the range. The annual dividend at 380 will cost roughly $4 74, <unk> I mean, it really somewhat depends on how many shares we buy back but within that range. But then also a third of the $1 billion share repurchase call. It around a 330 rough numbers that gives you about 800 use of.

Speaker 6: use of capital, which is around 70% of the total cap gen. The rest of it.

Capital, which is around 70% of the total cap Gen. The rest of it could be used for deleveraging.

Speaker 6: could be used for deleveraging, but we also need that capital to maintain our existing leverage based on balance sheet growth.

But we also need that capital to maintain our existing leverage based on balance sheet growth.

Speaker 14: Well, the balance sheet growth is picked up in your assumption for loan portfolio growth, correct?

Well within the balance sheet the balance sheet growth has picked up in your assumption for.

Loan portfolio growth correct.

That's correct.

Speaker 14: Okay, and then just to be clear, I mean you gave guidance for capital generation per share, but in a growth period where you're providing more, when your provision expense is greater than your charge offs, you should be, your net income should be south of your capital generation per share, correct?

And then just to be clear I mean, you gave guidance for capital generation per share, but in a growth period, where you're providing more.

Yeah.

When your provision expense is greater than your charge offs you should be your net income should be south of your capital generation per share correct.

Speaker 3: That's right. Okay, that's it for me. Thank you. Yep, you're welcome. Thank you, Joe. We'll take our final question. I'm right here. I think we have time for one more. Perfect. We'll take our final question from Rick Shane with JP Morgan. Your line is now open.

Right.

Okay. That's it for me thank you.

Yep you're welcome.

Thank you Joe.

Operator, I think we have time for one more.

Perfect. We will take our final question from Rick Shane with J P. Morgan Your line is now open.

Speaker 15: Hey guys, thanks for getting me. I wanna follow up on John's question. When I look at the capital generation and I run the scenarios high end one.

Hey, guys. Thanks for yes.

I wanted to follow up on Johns question, when I look at the capital generation and.

And I run the scenarios high end one too.

Speaker 15: to low end 1. 1 5, and I look at the loan growth scenarios of 5 to 10%. And then factor in the distributions related to dividend and repurchase.

Low end 115, and I look at the.

Loan growth scenarios of 5% to 10%.

And then factor in the distributions related to dividend and repurchase.

Speaker 15: We see that excess capital generation, and again, it depends, high in, about $240 million, low end if you sort of have the most growth and the least capital generation, about $36 million. But most of the scenario center around about $150 to $175 million.

We see that.

Excess capital generation and again high end its about $240 million low and if you sort of have the most growth in the lease capital generation of about $36 million.

Most of the scenarios center around about $150 million to $175 million of excess capital formation.

Speaker 15: of excess capital formation. Following up on John's question, to the extent you do wind up in a situation at the end of the year where you're 100 at $150 million ahead of Capjenneed.

Following up on John's question to the extent you do wind up in a situation at the end of the year, where you're 100 $150 million ahead of cap Gen needs.

Speaker 15: Would the idea be to de-lever the business? Would it be to increase the buyback? Or would you, at that point, consider another supplemental or specialty?

Would the idea be to Delever the business would it be to increase the buyback or would you at that point consider another supplemental or a special dividend.

Yes look I.

Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I, you know, we by embedding, you know, a fair amount of

We buy in bedding.

Fair amount of distribution.

Speaker 5: distribution into the regular and given our plans to use the buyback in a more programmatic basis, a fair amount of the capital is spoken for this year. I think you ran through the scenarios and I won't.

Distribution into the regular and given our plans to use the buyback in a more programmatic basis, you know a fair amount of the capital is spoken for this year.

I think you ran through the scenarios and I won't.

Speaker 5: will have to validate your math afterwards, but either we'll have some money left over at the end or we won.

Well have to validate your math afterwards, but.

Either we'll have some money left over at the end or we won't at that point I think our board would certainly consider any number of things you know and I think you listed the options. The options are delevering, some putting more into buybacks, depending on what things look like at that point.

Speaker 5: At that point, I think our board would certainly consider any number of things. I think you listed the options. The options are de-levering some, putting more into buybacks depending on what things look like at that point. We remain open to a special at the end of the year if that's what we decide to do. I think for now we try to give guidance so people could bake in.

And we remain open to special at the end of the year. If that's what we decided to do so I think for now we tried to give guidance that people could bake in.

Speaker 5: you know what's going to be happening with the majority of it. If there's excess capital, we're flexible and we'll have a serious conversation about what to do with it.

Whats going to be happening with the majority of it if there's excess capital, where we're flexible and will have a serious conversation about what to do with it.

Speaker 15: Got it. Yeah, look, I think the guidance is very helpful and I think there's an appropriate amount of cushioning here. I mean, look, if we were looking at a scenario where there was a 50 million dollar deficiency. We would be all over for that. It's just a question of with that sort of conservatism. What is the if things go well, what are the what are the solutions to maintain ROE in return?

Got it yeah look I think the guidance is very helpful and and I think theres, an appropriate amount of cushion here. When you look at it we were looking at a scenario, where there was a $50 million deficiency, we would be all over it for that it's just a question of.

With that sort of conservatism what is the.

If things go well what are the altered what are the solutions.

Two meaningful.

ROE and returns.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean look, the way we look at it is the business is doing incredibly well. We generate a lot of capital. We don't lightly put out that we expect to generate four billion dollars of capital over the next three years. And if we have excess capital at the end, we certainly will be very judicious in how we deploy it. And I think all options remain open.

Yes, I mean look the way we look at it as the business is doing incredibly well we.

We generate a lot of capital we don't lightly put out that we expect to generate $4 billion of capital over the next three years and if we have excess capital at the end, we certainly will be very judicious in how we deploy it.

And I think all options remain open.

Speaker 15: Got it and hey, I realize we're kind of in double bonus time here, but.

Got it and I realize we're kind of in double bonus time here, but since most people probably dropped off already I'm just going to ask one last question anyway.

Speaker 15: most people probably dropped off already. I'm just gonna ask one last question anyway, which is that when we think about the loan growth, are you at this point using portfolio sales to sort of manage that? What drives the behavior? And the reason I ask is that obviously one of the issues we're seeing in the card space,

Which is that.

When we think about the loan growth are you at this point using portfolio sales to sort of manage that what what drives the behavior and the reason I ask is that obviously one of the issues. We're seeing in the card space is an expectation that.

Speaker 15: is an expectation that repayment rates will come down. And I realize you're low.

Rates will come down.

And I realize your loans.

Speaker 15: have a degree of optionality, not the same degree of flexibility of a card loan, but I'm wondering how you think about repayment rates in terms of your loan growth objectives.

Have a degree of Optionality not the same degree of flexibility of a card loan, but I'm wondering if.

How you think about repayment rates in terms of your loan growth objectives.

Speaker 6: Well, I heard two questions in there, I think.

Well I heard two questions in there I think.

Speaker 6: With respect to the whole loan sale program, we've talked about that before as being a diversification of our funding.

With respect to the whole loan sale program, we've talked about that before as being a diversification of our funding channels and our funding or our access to different pockets of capital.

And the whole loan sale program also does give us some strategic flexibility for the future with potentially originations that we might not want to put on our balance sheet that would be better suited.

Speaker 6: give us some strategic flexibility for the future with potentially origination that we might not want to put on our balance sheet that would be better suited for one of those wholesale buyers. But not at that point yet, we are absolutely not using the wholesale program today as a governor on receivables growth. We've got plenty of opportunity, as I spoke about, in the funding markets to continue to put that on our balance sheet. We've just seen an opportunity to diversify our pockets of capital. With respect to payment rates, our payment rates absolutely remain very, very strong. We talked about before. We'd taken about $902 billion a month in payments. We saw that accelerate.

For one of those whole loan sale buyers, but we're not at that point, yet we are absolutely not using the whole loan sale program today as a governor on receivables growth, we've got plenty of opportunity as I spoke about in the funding markets to continue to put that on our balance sheet.

We've just seen an opportunity to diversify our pockets of capital with respect to payment rates you know our payment rates absolutely remain very very strong.

Speaker 6: We talked about before we take in about 900 to a billion dollars a month

Talked about before we've taken about 900 to a $1 billion a month in payments, we saw that accelerate quite a bit during the pandemic. Shortly after a stimulus, but it is basically back to.

Speaker 6: in payments. We saw that accelerate quite a bit during the pandemic shortly after stimulus, but it is basically back to relatively normal levels.

Relatively normal levels at around high 4% in the portfolio, but it is all factored into our receivables guidance when we think about that.

Speaker 6: at around high 4% in the portfolio. But it is all factored into our receivables guidance when we think about that.

Speaker 9: as is our mix of new customer versus renewals and all of the dynamics with respect to receivables growth that go into that. Thank you.

As is our mix of new customer versus renewals at all that the dynamics with respect to receivables growth that go into that.

Thank you Rick.

Yes, thanks, guys.

Speaker 5: Yeah, we appreciate it. Look, thanks everyone for joining us today. Our team is here, so if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out and we look forward to speaking with everyone soon.

Yes, we appreciate it look thanks, everyone for joining us today. Our team is here. So if you have any questions. Please feel free to reach out and we look forward to speaking with everyone. Soon.

Okay.

This does conclude today's Onemain financial fourth quarter 2021 earnings Conference call. Please disconnect. Your line at this time and have a wonderful day.

Speaker 3: This does conclude today's OneMain Financial fourth quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Please just connect your line at this time and have a wonderful day.

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