Q4 2021 Cameco Corp Earnings Call

Speaker 1: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Cameco Corporation fourth quarter 2021 conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen only mode and the conference is being recorded.

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Welcome to the Cameco Corporation fourth quarter, 2021 conference call.

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Speaker 1: I would now like to turn the conference over to Rochelle Girard, VP Investor Relations, Treasury and Tax. Please go ahead.

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Thank you operator, and good morning, everyone welcome to chemicals fourth quarter conference call I would like to acknowledge that we are on treaty six territory in the homeland of them 18, today's call will focus on the trends, we're seeing in the market and on our strategy.

Speaker 2: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Cameco's fourth quarter conference call.

Speaker 2: I would like to acknowledge that we are on Treaty 6 territory and the homeland of the Métis.

Speaker 2: Today's call will focus on the trends we are seeing in the market and on our strategy. As always, our goal is to be open and transparent with our communications. Therefore, if you have detailed questions about our quarterly financial results or should your questions not be addressed on this call, we will be happy to follow up with you after the call. There are a few ways to contact us. You can reach out to the contact information on the webinar.

As always our goal is to be open and transparent with our communications. Therefore, if you have detailed questions about our quarterly financial results or should your questions not be addressed on this call. We will be happy to follow up with you. After the call. There are a few ways to contact US you can reach out to the contacts provided in our news release you can submit it.

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Speaker 2: With us today on the call are Tim Gitzel, President and CEO , Grant Isaac, Senior VP and CFO , Brian Riley, Senior VP and Chief Operating Officer, Alice Wong, Senior VP and Chief Corporate Officer, and Sean Quinn, Senior VP, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary.

With us today on the call are Tim gets old President and CEO Grant Isaac Senior VP and CFO , Brian Reilly Senior VP, and Chief operating Officer, Alice Wong Senior VP, and Chief Corporate Officer, and Sean Quinn Senior VP, Chief legal officer and corporate Secretary.

Speaker 2: I'm going to hand it over to Tim to talk about the long-term fundamentals for our industry, the current market dynamics, and about Cameco's strategy to add long-term value. We will open it up for your questions.

I'm going to hand, it over to Tim to talk about the long term fundamentals for our industry. The current market dynamics and about chemicals strategy to add long term value. After we will open it up for your questions.

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If you joined the conference call through our website event page there are slides available which will be displayed during the call.

Speaker 2: In addition, for your reference, our quarterly investor handout is available for download in a PDF file on our website at Camicoh.com.

In addition for your reference our quarterly Investor Handout is available for download in a PDF file on our website at cameco Dot com.

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During the Q&A session. Please limit yourself to two questions and then return to the queue. Please.

Speaker 2: Please note that this conference call will include forward-looking information which is based on a number of assumptions and actual results could differ materially.

Please note that this conference call will include forward looking information, which is based on a number of assumptions and actual results could differ materially.

Speaker 2: Please refer to our annual information form in MD&E for more information about the factors that could cause these different results and the assumptions we have made. With that, I will turn it over to Tim.

Please refer to our annual information form and MD&A for more information about the factors that could cause these different results and the assumptions. We have made with that I will turn it over to Tim.

Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Michelle, and welcome to everyone on the call today. We appreciate you taking the time to join us.

Well, thank you Rachelle and welcome to everyone on the call today. We appreciate you taking the time to join us.

Speaker 3: Hope it's not too late to wish all of you a happy new year and I hope that you and your families are doing well.

I hope, it's not too late to wish all of you a happy new year and I hope that you and your families are doing well.

Speaker 3: A year ago I spoke to you about our excitement for the future of our industry.

A year ago I spoke to you about our excitement for the future of our industry.

Speaker 3: The growth occurring in traditional and non-traditional uses of nuclear power.

The growth occurring in traditional and non traditional uses of nuclear power.

Speaker 3: and about our role in supporting the transition to a net zero carbon economy. And I can tell you none of that-

It's about our role in supporting the transition to a net zero carbon economy.

And I can tell you none of that has changed.

Speaker 3: In fact, the developments in our industry over the past year further support our belief that there is durability to demand that I'm not sure we have ever seen in our industry before.

The developments in our industry over the past year further support our belief that there is durability to demand that I am not sure we have ever seen in our industry before.

Speaker 3: And the fundamentals are pointing to a transfer of risk from the suppliers of uranium fuel to the user.

And the fundamentals are pointing to a transfer of risk from the suppliers of uranium fuel to the users.

Speaker 3: The thinning of material available in the spot market and the growing uncertainty of supply has led to the recognition that your annual prices need to rise to reflect production economic.

The thinning of material available in the spot market and the growing uncertainty of supply has led to the recognition that uranium prices need to rise to reflect production economics.

Speaker 3: The economics that will be needed to ensure the availability of reliable and sufficient productive capacity to fuel the growing demand for carbon-free, base load, nuclear electricity. We have seen-

The economics that will be needed to ensure the availability of reliable and sufficient productive capacity to fuel a growing demand for carbon free baseload nuclear electricity.

We've seen a nearly 40% increase in uranium spot prices since a year ago, and a 22% increase in the long term price and that of course is good news for us.

Speaker 3: In your eating spot prices since a year ago, and a 22% increase in the long term price, and that of course is good news for us.

Speaker 3: We believe that our actions have contributed to the growing security of supply concerns in our industry.

We believe that our actions have.

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As a result of our planned and unplanned production cuts or inventory reduction in our market purchases, we have removed more than 190 million pounds from the market since 2016.

Speaker 3: As a result of our planned and unplanned production cuts, our inventory reduction and our market purchases, we have removed more than 190 million pounds from the market since 2016.

Speaker 3: As a commercial supplier, our decisions have uniquely positioned camaco with demonstrated Tier 1 assets.

As a commercial supplier or decisions have uniquely positioned cameco.

With demonstrated tier one assets strategic.

Speaker 3: strategic tier two assets and vertical integration to capitalize on the increasingly undeniable conclusion that nuclear power must be an essential part of the clean energy transition.

Strategic tier two assets and vertical integration to capitalize on the increasingly undeniable conclusion, the nuclear power must be in the central part of the clean energy transition.

Speaker 3: So today I'm pleased to tell you that with the improvements we've seen in the uranium market

So today I am pleased to tell you that with the improvements we've seen in the uranium market.

Speaker 3: Success we have had in putting 70 million pounds of new long-term contracts in place since the beginning of 2021 It is time

And the success, we have had in putting 70 million pounds of new long term contracts in place since the beginning of 2021.

It is time.

Speaker 3: It's time to claim our Income and See advantage and proceed with the next phase of our supply discipline decisions in alignment with our contract portfolio and the market opportunity.

It's time to claim our incumbency advantage and proceed with the next phase of our supply disciplined decisions in alignment with our contract portfolio and the market opportunities.

Speaker 3: And it's time to reward those who understand and have supported our strategy, which has laid the foundation to capture the value of the clean energy transition.

And it's time to reward those who understand and have supported our strategy, which has laid the foundation to capture the value of the clean energy transition.

Speaker 3: Our plan in no way represents an end to our supply.

Our plan in no way represents an end to our supply discipline.

Speaker 3: But we are contemplating for a supply discipline still represents a much greater reduction any other producer has made.

But we were contemplating for supply discipline still represents a much greater reduction and any other producer has mean.

Speaker 3: In fact, we are continuing with indefinite supply disassembly.

In fact, we are continuing with indefinite supply discipline.

Speaker 3: Therefore, we will begin the process of getting our Northern Saskatchewan Tier 1 assets operationally ready to achieve a production plan of about 28.5 million pounds combined in 2024 on a 100% base.

Therefore, we will begin the process of getting our northern Saskatchewan tier one assets operationally ready to achieve a production plan of about $28 5 million pounds combined in 2024.

On a 100% basis.

Speaker 3: Our plan includes both MacArthur River and Cigar Lake operating at less than licensed capacity starting in 2024.

Our plan includes both Mcarthur River and cigar Lake operating at less than license capacity starting in 2024.

When you consider our idle tier two capacity.

Speaker 3: About 40% of our productive capacity will remain subject to supply discipline in 2024.

About 40% of our productive capacity will remain subject to supply discipline in 2024.

Speaker 3: In conjunction with this plan changed to our operations, we are also announcing a 50% increase to our 2022 dividend, which will be paid in December this year.

In conjunction with this plan change to our operations. We are also announcing a 50% increase to our 2022 dividend.

Which will be paid in December of this year.

So why now you may ask.

Speaker 3: With all of our market experience, we are seeing the signposts that tell us it is time to prepare our proven tier one assets for operational readiness and flexibility because a market transition is taking hold.

With all of our market experience, we are seeing the sign posts that tell us. It is time to prepare our proven tier one assets for operational readiness and flexibility because of market transition is taking hold.

Speaker 3: In addition to the over 160 million pounds, we have under contract in our portfolio. We see a market where the fundamentals are shifting in our favor and we want to be ready.

In addition to the over 160 million pounds, we have under contract in our portfolio.

We see a market where the fundamentals are shifting in our favor and we want to be ready.

Let's take a look at the fundamentals that motivate our strategic decisions.

Speaker 3: Take a look at the fundamentals that motivate our strategic decision.

The benefits of nuclear energy have come clearly into focus with the durability that we believe has not previously been seen.

Speaker 3: Benefits of nuclear energy have come clearly into focus with the durability that we believe has not previously been seen.

This durability is being driven by the accountability for achieving the net zero carbon targets being set by countries and companies around the world.

Speaker 3: Disturability is being driven by the accountability for achieving the net zero carbon targets being set by countries and companies around the world.

Speaker 3: These net zero carbon targets are turning attention to a triple challenge.

These net zero carbon targets are turning attention to a triple challenge.

Speaker 3: First, is to lift one third of the global population out of energy poverty by expanding the availability of clean and reliable baseload electricity.

First is to lift one third of the global population out of energy poverty by expanding the availability of clean and reliable baseload electricity.

Speaker 3: Second, to replace 85% of the current global electricity grids that run on carbon emitting thermal power with a clean, reliable alternative.

Second is to replace 85% of the current global electricity grids that run on carbon emitting thermal power with a clean reliable alternative.

Speaker 3: And finally the challenge is to grow global power grids by switching industries to electricity.

And finally, the challenge is to grow global power grids by switching industries to electricity, such as private and commercial transportation.

Speaker 3: such as privacy and commercial transportation, home heating, and industrial heating, which are largely powered with carbon emitting thermal energy today.

Home heating and industrial heating, which are largely powered with carbon emitting thermal energy today.

Speaker 3: Additionally, the energy crisis experience in some parts of the world has amplified concerns about energy security and highlighted the role of energy policy in balancing three-million roofed internal structure housing services, empty and The victim is??hip- ??? spread demonstrated by oil-based affects the resolve of the complex in eviet balance.

Additionally, the energy crisis experienced in some parts of the world is amplified concerns about energy security and highlighted the role of energy policy and balancing three main objectives.

Speaker 3: Providing a clean emission profile, providing a reliable and secure base load profile, providing an affordable levelized

Abiding, a clean emissions profile, providing a reliable and secure baseload profile, providing an affordable level is cost profile.

Speaker 3: Too much focus on one objective as left summed jurisdiction struggling with power shortages.

Too much focus on one objective has left some jurisdictions struggling with power shortages and spiking energy prices.

Speaker 3: There is increasing recognition that nuclear power with its clean emissions profile, reliable and secure base load characteristics, and low-levelized cost has a key role to play in achieving decarbonization goals.

There is increasing recognition that nuclear power with its clean emissions profile reliable and secure baseload characteristics and low level of cost is a key role to play in achieving decarbonization goals.

Speaker 3: Several nations like France, the United Kingdom and the United States, are reaffirming their commitment to nuclear power by developing plans to support their existing reactor base.

Several nations like France, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

Our reaffirming their commitment to nuclear power by development plans to support their existing reactor base.

Speaker 3: and are reviewing their policies to encourage even more nuclear capacity.

And are reviewing their policies to encourage even more nuclear capacity.

Several other European countries like the Netherlands Jackie.

Speaker 3: Several other European countries like the Netherlands, Czechia, Poland, Estonia, Slovenia, and Serbia have emerged as candidates for new nuclear capacity.

Poland Dystonia, Slovenia in Serbia have emerged as candidates for new nuclear capacity.

Speaker 3: If this strong support for nuclear energy, the European Union, has a green principle to include certain nuclear energy activities under a green labeling system in its taxonomy for sustainable finance.

With this strong support for nuclear energy as the European Union has agreed in principal to include certain nuclear energy activities under a green labeling system and its taxonomy for sustainable finance.

Speaker 3: Inclusion will identify nuclear power as a climate friendly investment.

Its inclusion will identify nuclear power as a climate friendly investment.

Speaker 3: could result in increased investment in nuclear power plants.

And could result in increased investment in nuclear power plants.

Speaker 3: and may also allow a broader array of ESG-focused funds to invest in other segments of the nuclear power industry, including mining.

It may also allow a broader array of ESG focused funds to invest in other segments of the nuclear power industry, including mining.

Speaker 3: Even in countries with face-out policies like Germany, Belgium and Spain, there's growing debate about the role of nuclear power with public opinion polls showing growing support for new...

Even in countries with phase out policies, like Germany, Belgium, and Spain. There is growing debate about the role of nuclear power with public opinion polls showing growing support for nuclear.

Speaker 3: The growth in demand is not just long-term in the form of new builds. It is medium-term demand in the form of reactor life extensions, and it is near-term growth as early reactor retirements are prevented.

The growth in demand is not just long term in the form of new builds.

It is medium term demand in the form of reactor life extensions and it is near term growth is early reactor retirements are prevented.

Speaker 3: We are seeing momentum building for non-traditional commercial uses of nuclear power around the world, such as development of small modular reactors and advanced reactors, with numerous companies and countries per-

And we're seeing momentum building for non traditional commercial uses of nuclear power around the world such as development of small modular reactors and advanced reactors.

With numerous companies and countries pursuing projects.

So it's easy to conclude that demand outlook is durable and very bright.

Speaker 3: So it's easy to conclude that the man's outlook is durable and very bright.

However, the uranium supply side story paints a much different picture.

Speaker 3: However, the Uranium Supply Side Story paints a much different picture.

Persistently low prices have led to planned supply curtailments of existing productive capacity.

Speaker 3: Persistently low prices have led to planned supply retailments of existing productive capacity

Speaker 3: Development risk due to lack of investment in new productive capacity and the end of reserve life for some minds.

Development risk due to lack of investment in new productive capacity.

And the end of reserve life for some mines.

In the past secondary suppliers to fill the gap.

Speaker 3: But after years of drawing on these one-time sources, the secondary supply capacity is now declining significantly into the future.

But after years of drawing on these one time sources the secondary supply capacity is now declining significantly into the future.

Speaker 3: These fundamental facts are being amplified by unplanned supply disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and the related global supply chain and inflationary challenges that are interrupting the flow of goods and services in the Uranium market. We've seen this both here.

These fundamental facts are being amplified by unplanned supply disruptions caused by the COVID-19, pandemic and the related global supply chain and inflationary challenges that are interrupting the flow of goods and services in the uranium market.

We've seen this both here in Canada and in Kazakhstan and.

Speaker 3: And they're further intensified by the thinning of the spot market due to the interest in physical uranium by investors that are purchasing significant volumes of uranium and sequestering it.

And there are further intensified by the thinning of the spot market due to the interest in physical uranium by investors that are purchasing significant volumes of uranium and sequestering it.

Speaker 3: By the increasing ESG scrutiny of suppliers to ensure utility supply chains qualify as green.

By the increasing ESG scrutiny of suppliers to ensure utilities supply chains qualified as green.

Speaker 3: By the deepening geopolitical and origin risk driven by the increasing concentration of supply

But the deepening geopolitical and origin risk driven by the increasing concentration of supply.

Speaker 3: and to trend toward regionalization to ensure the availability of critical minerals.

And the trend toward regionalization to ensure the availability of critical minerals.

Looking at where the market is today and what we are seeing it's easy to conclude that the current uranium market is more constructive than we've seen in a very long time.

Speaker 3: Looking at where the market is today and what we are seeing, it's easy to conclude that the current Uranium market is more constructive than we have seen in a very long time.

Speaker 3: He did this improvement, has been the alignment of productive capacity with the market site.

Key to this improvement has been the alignment of productive capacity with the market cycle.

Speaker 3: Something we as a responsible producer understand and have made a significant part of our strategy.

We as a responsible producer understand and have made a significant part of our strategy.

Speaker 3: Always motivated by the Uranium Market Fundamentals, our strategy of full cycle value capture has had a significant impact on the positive market dynamics we see today.

Oh, it was motivated by the uranium market fundamentals our strategy of full cycle value capture has had a significant impact on the positive market dynamics, we see today.

Speaker 3: We've been undertaking work to ensure we have operational flexibility. And we're lining our production decisions with the market fundamentals and our contracting portfolio. And we have been.

We've been undertaking work to ensure we have operational flexibility and we're aligning our production decisions with the market fundamentals and our contracting portfolio and we have been financially disciplined.

Speaker 3: Indeed, I would argue the magnitude of our production cuts to well below our sales commitments, and the resulting purchase activity to replace those pounds is unrivaled.

Indeed, I would argue the magnitude of our production cuts to well below our sales commitments and the resulting purchase activity to replace those pounds is unrivaled.

Speaker 3: Retailment of our Tier 1 and Tier 2 assets have inventoryed almost 150 million pounds of uranium in the ground since 2016, including our partners.

The curtailment of our tier one and tier two assets of inventory to almost 115 million pounds of uranium and the ground since 2016, including our partner's share.

Speaker 3: more than 150 million pounds of uranium that are worth much more in today's mark.

More than 150 million pounds of uranium that are worth much more in today's market.

Speaker 3: In addition with our spot and term purchasing, we've taken 56 million pounds of Uranium out of the market. Since we began curtailing production.

In addition, with our spot and term purchasing we've taken 56 million pounds of uranium out of the market since we began curtailing production.

And in 2018, we drew our inventory down by about 20 million pounds.

Speaker 3: In 2018, we drew our inventory down by about 20 million.

Just step back for a minute and consider where the market might be today had we not taken these actions.

Speaker 3: Just step back for a minute and consider where the market might be today. Had we not taken these out?

Speaker 3: At Tamiko not acted strategically and decisively, almost 190 million pounds would still be above ground and trying to find a home in the mark.

That chemical not acted strategically and decisively almost 190 million pounds would still be above ground and trying to find a home in the market.

Speaker 3: spot market would still be significantly over supplied.

Spot market would still be significantly oversupplied.

Speaker 3: Financial and other investors would not have taken notice of uranium.

Financial and other investors would not have taken notice of uranium.

We've been through every market transition in our industry.

Speaker 3: And while having great assets is a necessary condition for creating long-term value, we know that it is not sufficient.

Well, having great assets is a necessary condition for creating long term value, we know that it is not sufficient.

Speaker 3: We understand that the spot market is not the fundamental market in our business.

We understand that the spot market is not the fundamental market and our business.

Speaker 3: It is a very thinly traded market where small volumes can have an outsize impact on price.

It is a very thinly traded market, where small volumes can have an outsized impact on price.

It is not where utilities turned to satisfy their long term run rate requirements.

Speaker 3: It is not where utilities turn to satisfy their long-term run rate requirements.

Speaker 3: It is typically where they go for one time discretionary boss.

It is typically where they go for one time discretionary volumes.

Speaker 3: Our experiences taught us that are responsible producer creates real value by building a long-term contract portfolio.

Our experience has taught us that a responsible producer creates real value by building a long term contract portfolio.

Speaker 3: that supports the operation of productive assets and generates significant cash flow through the entire commodity cycle.

The portfolio that supports the operation of productive assets and generate significant cash flow through the entire commodity cycle by having leverage to greater returns as the price increases and that provides downside protection for periods of lower prices.

Speaker 3: by having leveraged to greater returns as the price increases and that provides downside protection for periods of lower price.

Speaker 3: In our business, there's no substitute for a full blown utility driven long-term contracting.

In our business there is no substitute for a full blown utility driven long term contracting cycle.

Speaker 3: A contracting cycle motivated by security of supply concerns drives value capture in the uranium fuel market, as it did in the conversion market two years ago.

Contracting cycle motivated by security of supply concerns drives value capture in the uranium fuel market as it did in the conversion market two years ago.

Speaker 3: As it did for us during the worst down cycle in the Uranium business, when our average realized price outperformed the market and protected our balance sheet, when others failed financially and had to be recapitalized and restructured, destroying...

As it did for us during the worst down cycle in the uranium business when our average realized price outperformed the market and protected our balance sheet, when others field financially and had to be recapitalized and restructured destroying value for their owners.

Speaker 3: That's why we're critical of those who promote a strategy to build productive capacity fully exposed to the spot marks.

It's why we're critical of those who promote a strategy to build productive capacity fully exposed to the spot market.

Speaker 3: Having been in this business now for over three decades I can tell you that strategy simply doesn't work.

Having been in this business now for over three decades, I can tell you that strategy simply doesn't work.

Speaker 3: For those who are trying to create long-term, sustainable value, and it demonstrates a basic lack of understanding of the structure of our mark.

For those who are trying to create long term sustainable value in the demonstrates a basic lack of understanding of the structure of our market.

Speaker 3: The higher prices discovered during a contracting cycle drive investment in higher cost sources of production.

The higher prices discovered during a contracting cycle drive investment and higher cost sources of production.

Speaker 3: which due to the lengthy development timelines, missed the contracting cycle, and ramp up after demand has already been captured by the incumbent producer.

Due to the lengthy development timelines missed the contracting cycle and ramp up after demand has already been captured by the incumbent producers.

Speaker 3: The new uncommitted supply exposed to the small discretionary spot market sets in motion a price off cycle and becomes value to struck.

The new uncommitted supply exposed to the small discretionary spot market set in motion a price off cycle and becomes value destructive.

Finally, after more than 10 years in a trough and through the deliberate and disciplined execution of our strategy aligning our productive capacity with market opportunities, we are seeing the cycle form.

Speaker 3: Finally, after more than 10 years in a trough and through the deliberate and disciplined execution of our strategy, aligning our productive capacity with market opportunities, we are seeing the cycle form.

As the spot market continues to thin utilities are beginning to shift their attention to securing material for their uncovered requirements and not just in off market negotiations.

Speaker 3: Spot market continues to thin utilities are beginning to shift their attention to securing material for their uncovered requirements and not just in off market negotiation.

Speaker 3: Increased interest in on market long-term contracting is emerging as well.

Increased interest in on market long term contracting is emerging as well.

The request for proposals we are seeing are directed at those producers who are proven and reliable productive capacity today, and who have a track record of honoring commitments.

Speaker 3: In request for proposals, we are seeing or directed at those producers who have proven and reliable productive capacity today and who have a track record of honoring commitment.

Speaker 3: The leading utilities understand that a tier one asset is demonstrated. Not just discuss-

The leading utilities understand that a tier one asset has demonstrated not just discovered and declared.

Speaker 3: They've learned from history that relying on new development projects showing up on aggressive timelines and budgets promised.

We've learned from history that relying on new development projects, showing up on aggressive timelines and budgets promised.

There is not a prudent strategy.

Speaker 3: They understand that banking on a resource that still faces technical, regulatory, stakeholder, project, and operating challenges in an inflationary supply chain challenge environment puts their future reactor operations at significant risk.

They understand that banking on a resource thats still faces technical regulatory stakeholder project and operating challenges in an inflationary supply chain challenged environment.

Puts their future reactor operations at significant risk.

As an independent commercial supplier, we can provide our customers with access to proven and reliable productive capacity.

Speaker 3: An independent commercial supplier, we can provide our customers with access to proven and reliable productive capacity.

With substantial Canadian productive capacity or supply meets increasingly stringent ESG requirements.

Speaker 3: substantial Canadian productive capacity, our supply meets increasingly stringent ESG requirements.

Speaker 3: can provide diversity from state-owned enterprises and help to de-risk utilities future supply from trade policy exposure.

Can provide diversity from state owned enterprises and help to Derisk utilities future supply from trade policy exposure.

Speaker 3: Let's look in more detail at the plans we have for a productive to pass.

Let's look in more detail as the plans we have for our productive capacity.

Speaker 3: If you recall last quarter, I said that when the date comes to announce that the return to operating status at MacArthur River Key Lake is on the horizon, it will be undeniably positive news for Camaco and all of our stakeholders, and we believe for the market.

If you recall last quarter I said that when the day comes to announce that the return to operating status in Mcarthur River key Lake is on the horizon. It will be undeniably positive news for cameco and all of our stakeholders and we believe for the market.

Well today is that day.

Speaker 3: Relaying claim to our Tier 1 and Compancy Advantage as we further position the company to capture the value we expect to come from the growing demand for safe, clean, reliable and affordable nuclear energy.

We're laying claim to our tier one incumbency advantage as we further position the company to capture the value we expect to come from the growing demand for safe clean reliable and affordable nuclear energy.

Speaker 3: Increasing your annual prices and a growing contract portfolio are giving us line of sight to return to our Tier 1 cost structure.

Increasing uranium prices and a growing contract portfolio are giving us line of sight to return to a tier one cost structure.

Speaker 3: We're seeing the conditions developed that will allow us to deliver uranium from our proven assets under long-term contracts that we expect will create value.

We're seeing the conditions develop that will allow us to deliver uranium from our proven assets under long term contracts that we expect will create value.

Speaker 3: the stable nuclear fuel cycle to support growing demand and we want to be ready.

And sustain a stable nuclear fuel cycle to support growing demand and we want to be ready.

As a responsible producer our production plan will remain aligned with the market.

Speaker 3: As a responsible producer, our production plan will remain aligned with the mark.

Speaker 3: It entails a portfolio approach to our tier one capacity in northern Saskatchewan.

It entails a portfolio approach to our tier one capacity in northern Saskatchewan.

Speaker 3: We expect the investments we are making in digital and automation technologies will allow us to operate these assets with more flexibility.

We expect the investments, we're making in digital and automation technologies will allow us to operate these assets with more flexibility.

This flexibility is key to our ability to continue to align our production decisions with our contract portfolio commitments and opportunities.

Speaker 3: Flexibility is key to our ability to continue to align our production decisions with our contract portfolio commitments and opportunities.

Speaker 3: With about 185 million pounds added to our long-term portfolio since 2016, including 70 million added since the beginning of 2021, we have a solid base of contracts to deliver our planned production into. It is not destined for the spot work.

With about 185 million pounds added to our long term portfolio since 2016, including 70 million added since the beginning of 2021.

Have a solid base of contracts to deliver our planned production into it is not destined for the spot market.

Speaker 3: The market-related contracts in our portfolio, together with the large inventory of uncommitted pounds we have left in the ground, give us plenty of exposure to further improvements in the market.

The market related contracts in our portfolio together with the large inventory of uncommitted pounds. We have left in the ground give us plenty of exposure to further improvements in the market.

Speaker 3: To get started, we will begin the process to transition the MacArthur River mine and key Lake Mill from Karen maintenance to operational readiness to allow us to produce 15 million pounds per year on a 100% basis by 2024.

To get started we will begin the process to transition the Mcarthur River mine and key Lake mill from care and maintenance to operational readiness to allow us to produce 15 million pounds per year on a 100% basis by 2024.

Speaker 3: That is 40% below the annual license capacity.

That is 40% below the annual license capacity.

Speaker 3: Once the MacArthur River Key Lake operation reaches its planned production starting in 2024, it is our intention to pull back on production at Cigar Lake.

Once the Mcarthur River key Lake operation reaches its planned production starting in 2024. It is our intention to pull back on production at cigar Lake.

Plan is to take production at cigar Lake from 18 million pounds per year down to $13 5 million pounds per year on a 100% basis or 25% below its license capacity.

Speaker 3: The plan is to take production at Cigar Lake from 18 million pounds per year down to 13.5 million pounds per year on a 100% basis or 25% below its license capacity.

Speaker 3: It'll take us some time to ramp up and macArthur river key lake. We must complete.

It'll take us some time to ramp up at Mcarthur River key Lake.

We must complete some critical projects.

Speaker 3: before maintenance readiness checks and recruit and train sufficient mine and mill personnel before we begin operation.

A form maintenance readiness checks and recruit and train sufficient mine and mill personnel before we began operations.

Over the course of 2022 and 2023, we will undertake all of the activities necessary to ramp up to achieve our 2024 production plan.

Speaker 3: Over the course of 2022 and 2023, we will undertake all of the activities necessary to ramp up to achieve our 2024 production plan.

Speaker 3: As a result this year we could produce up to 5 million pounds of uranium on a 100% basis at MacArthur River Key Lake.

As a result this year, we could produce up to 5 million pounds of uranium on a 100% basis at Mcarthur River key Lake.

Speaker 3: At Cigar Lake, we expect to produce 15 million pounds on a 100% basis. Three million pounds less than its license could pass.

At cigar Lake, we expect to produce 15 million pounds on a 100% basis 3 million pounds less than its license capacity.

Our production outlook reflects the expected impact of delays in development work at cigar Lake in 2021.

Speaker 3: Our production outlook reflects the expected impact of delays in development work at Cigar Lake in 2021 and the ongoing pandemic and supply chain challenges that are impacting the availability of materials, reagents and labor at all of our operations.

And the ongoing pandemic and supply chain challenges that are impacting the availability of materials reagents on labor at all of our operations.

Speaker 3: However, we will work to minimize any disruptions to our operations this year.

However, we will work to minimize any disruptions to our operations this year.

We expect that our operational decisions at Mcarthur River key Lake will have a significant and positive impact on our financial performance.

Speaker 3: We expect that our operational decisions at McCarty River Key Lake will have a significant and positive impact on our financial performance.

Speaker 3: As you know, the financial aspect of our strategy is to ensure that we have a solid balance sheet and the ability to self-manage risks.

As you know the financial aspect of our strategy is to ensure that we have a solid balance sheet and the ability to self manage risk.

Speaker 3: At the end of the second quarter, we were again in a negative net debt position with $1.3 billion in cash.

At the end of the second quarter, we were again in a negative net debt position with $1 3 billion in cash.

Speaker 3: One billion in long-term debt and a one billion dollar undrawn credit.

1 billion in long term debt and a $1 billion Undrawn credit facility.

Speaker 3: Once production at the MacArthur River Key Lake Operation resumes, we expect to begin to see a significant improvement in our earnings and cash flow.

Once production at the Mcarthur River key Lake Operation resumes.

We expect to begin to see a significant improvement in our earnings and cash flow.

Speaker 3: As production ramps up to the plan level, the operational readiness costs incurred will de...

As production ramps up to the planned level the operational readiness costs incurred will decrease.

Speaker 3: and we will be able to source more of our committed sales from lower cost-produced pounds.

And we will be able to source more of our committed sales from lower cost produced pounds.

Speaker 3: As well, the higher prices that are being discovered in the currently improving market will flow through our existing contract portfolio.

As well the higher prices that are being discovered in the currently improving market will flow through our existing contract portfolio.

Speaker 3: And with an inventory of unencumbered Tier 1 and Tier 2 pounds in the ground, rising prices will also create the opportunity to layer in new long term commitments with appropriate pricing mechanisms.

And with an inventory of unencumbered tier one and tier two pounds in the ground.

Rising prices will also create the opportunity to layer in new long term commitments with appropriate pricing mechanisms that will underpin the long term operation of our productive capacity.

Speaker 3: that will underpin the long-term operation of our productive capacity.

Speaker 3: With the court process in our dispute with the CRA confirming unequivocally, the camoco consistently followed the rules and complied with both the letter and intent of the law.

With the court process in our dispute with the CRA confirming unequivocally the chemical consistently followed the rules complied with both the letter and intent of the law.

Speaker 3: We still expect $295 million in cash and $482 million in letters of credit to be released to us.

We still expect $295 million in cash and $482 million in letters of credit to be released to us.

Speaker 3: We just don't know when, so we continue to work on that.

We just don't know when so we continue to work on that.

Speaker 3: As such, we expect to have the financial capacity to execute on our strategy and self-manage risk, including from global macroeconomics.

As such we expect to have the financial capacity to execute on our strategy and self manage risk <unk>.

Including from global macro economic uncertainty.

Therefore, we're pleased to reward those who have supported our strategy.

Speaker 3: Therefore, we're pleased to reward those who have supported our strategy.

Speaker 3: Our board has approved a dividend of 12 cents per share to be paid in December up from 8 cents per share in 2021.

Our board has approved a dividend of <unk> 12 per share to be paid in December up from <unk> <unk> per share in 2021.

Speaker 3: So what does all this mean for Camaco? Well it means we're optimists-

So what does all this mean for cameco well it means we're optimistic for.

Speaker 3: We're optimistic about the growth in demand for nuclear power, both traditional and non-

We're optimistic about the growth and demand for nuclear power, both traditional and non traditional.

Speaker 3: Rob Domestic about the growth and demand for uranium and fuel service.

We're optimistic about the growth in demand for uranium and fuel services.

Speaker 3: And we're optimistic about the Incommency opportunity for Camico in capturing long-term value across the fuel chain and supporting the transition to a net zero carbon economy.

And we're optimistic about the incumbency opportunity for cameco, and capturing long term value across the fuel chain and supporting the transition to a net zero carbon economy.

Speaker 3: Therefore, we will embark on the next phase of our supply discipline strategy. We will continue to do what we said we would do.

Therefore, we will embark on the next phase of our supply discipline strategy.

We will continue to do what we said we would do.

So what is it that we're doing.

Speaker 3: We're aligning our production decisions with our contract portfolio and the market fund amendment.

We're aligning our production decisions with our contract portfolio and the market fundamentals.

Speaker 3: for being strategically patient in our marketing activity.

We're being strategically patient and our marketing activities.

Speaker 3: We're conservatively managing our balance sheet to ensure we can execute on our strategy and self-manage risk.

We're conservatively managing our balance sheet to ensure we can execute on our strategy and self manage risk.

Speaker 3: And we're rewarding those who understand and have supported our strategy.

And we're rewarding those who understand and have supported our strategy.

Speaker 3: This strategy has positioned us well to take advantage of the fundamentals I spoke of earlier.

This strategy has positioned us well to take advantage of the fundamentals I spoke of earlier.

Speaker 3: We have operating an idle tier 1 assets that are licensed, permitted, long lived, and are proven operations that have expansion to pass.

We have operating and idle tier one assets that are licensed permitted long lived and our proven operations that have expansion capacity.

Speaker 3: We have fully permitted improvement to your two assets that don't make sense at today's prices, but when you think about them in the context of alluming supply gap.

We are fully permitted and proven tier two assets that don't make sense at today's prices, but when you think about them in the context of a looming supply gap, there's a potential pathway for them to add value for us in the future.

Speaker 3: There's a potential pathway for them to add value for us in the future.

Speaker 3: but we will be very disciplined in our evaluation on that.

But we will be very disciplined in our evaluation on that front.

Speaker 3: Thanks for our discipline contracting strategy. We have had a contract portfolio that has protected us well during the worst down cycle in our business.

Thanks to our disciplined contracting strategy, we have had a contract portfolio that has protected us well during the worst down cycle in our business.

Speaker 3: As the Uranium market improves further, our focus is shifting to securing homes for our in-ground inventory that has not yet been committed.

As the uranium market improves further our focus is shifting to securing homes for our in ground inventory that has not yet been committed.

Speaker 3: We won't chase the market down to win business and we won't produce the dump uncommitted supply into a thinly traded spot market. As we've seen.

We won't chase the market down to win business and we won't produce to dump uncommitted supply into a thinly traded spot market as we've seen some of our competitors do.

Speaker 3: The primary driver for our contracting activity is always value.

The primary driver for our contracting activity is always value.

Speaker 3: Therefore as the market improves we expect to continue to layer in volumes capturing greater upside using market related pricing mechanism.

Therefore, as the market improves we expect to continue to layer in volumes, capturing greater upside using market related pricing mechanisms.

Speaker 3: However, we recognize there's a cyclicality to our business that is inevitable.

However, we recognize there's a cyclicality to our business that is inevitable.

Speaker 3: That's why as a responsible producer, we also look to lock in value at higher prices. To carry those higher prices through.

That's why as a responsible producer we will also look to lock in value at higher prices to carry those higher prices through the next cycle.

We also locked in significant value for our fuel services business and the recent price transition and conversion.

Speaker 3: We also locked in significant value for our fuel services business in the recent price transition and conversion.

And we're more than just mining.

Speaker 3: We're vertically integrated across the nuclear fuel cycle, we're refining, conversion the fuel fabrication.

We're vertically integrated across the nuclear fuel cycle with refining conversion to fuel fabrication.

Speaker 3: Additionally, we are positioning camocoat to respond to the growing need for uranium fuel to generate safe, clean, reliable and affordable electricity.

Additionally, we are positioning cameco to respond to the growing need for uranium fuel to generate safe clean reliable and affordable electricity.

Speaker 3: By exploring opportunities to further our reach to encompass the full nuclear fuel site.

By exploring opportunities to further our reach to encompass the full nuclear fuel cycle.

Speaker 3: Through our fuel manufacturing capabilities and investment in global laser enrichment, we're exploring fuel fabrication of new fuels.

Through our fuel manufacturing capabilities and investment in global laser enrichment, we're exploring fuel fabrication of new fuels.

Speaker 3: Pudding high <expletive> low enriched uranium or howl you

<unk> high assay low enriched uranium or how are you.

Speaker 3: We're also participating in the development of small modular react

We're also participating in the development of small modular reactors and have entered a number of non binding arrangements to advance their commercialization and deployment in Canada and around the world.

Speaker 3: and have entered a number of non-binding arrangements to advance their commercialization and deployment in Canada and around the world.

Speaker 3: And we have an interest in the nuclear sustainability services, the back end of the fuel.

And we have an interest in the nuclear sustainability services. The back end of the fuel cycle, including aiding in the responsible cleanup of enrichment facilities no longer in operation.

Speaker 3: including aiding in the responsible cleanup of an enrichment facility is no longer an operation.

Speaker 3: These opportunities align with our commitment to manage our business responsibly and sustainable.

These opportunities aligned with our commitment to manage our business responsibly and sustainably and.

Speaker 3: with the increase our contribution to global climate change solutions.

And to increase our contribution to global climate change solutions.

Our decisions are deliberate.

Speaker 3: We are responsible, commercially motivated supplier with a diversified portfolio of assets, including a Tier 1 production portfolio that is among the best in the world.

We are responsible commercially motivated supplier with a diversified portfolio of assets, including a tier one production portfolio that is among the best in the world.

Speaker 3: We are committed to operating sustainably by protecting, engaging, and supporting the development of our people and their communities.

We are committed to operating sustainably by protecting engaging and supporting the development of our people and their communities.

Speaker 3: And to protecting the environment, something we've been doing for over 30 years.

And to protecting the environment something we've been doing for over 30 years.

Speaker 3: We have determined that our strategy, which includes contracting discipline, operationally flexible supply discipline and financial discipline, will allow us to achieve our vision of energizing a clean air world.

We have determined that our strategy, which includes contracting discipline operationally flexible supply discipline and financial discipline.

Allow us to achieve our vision of energizing a clean air World.

Speaker 3: Thereby delivering long-term value in a market where demand for safe, secure, reliable, and affordable clean nuclear energy is growing.

Thereby delivering long term value in a market where demand for safe secure reliable and affordable clean nuclear energy is growing.

Speaker 3: So with that, thanks for joining our call today and operator, we would be happy to answer any questions.

So with that thanks for joining our call today and operator, we would be happy to answer any questions.

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Speaker 1: The first question is from Oris Walkada from Scotia Bank. Please go ahead.

The first question is from Orange Walker Die from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4: Hi, good morning. I'm curious if we could get some more details on your plan to restart MacArthur River. I know in the past you talked about needing, I guess, to pre-sell the majority of the future pounds.

Hi, good morning.

If we could get some more details on your plans to restart Mcarthur River I know in the past you talked about needing I guess to pre shell the majority of the future pounds from Macarthur I'm just curious if.

Speaker 4: from MacArthur. I'm just curious if your philosophy there is change for whether you're seeing enough with respect to re-contracting, including I guess the 40 million pounds you've signed your date of long-term book. But any additional color there in terms of what's prompting you to restart early relative to the contract book.

If your philosophy, there has changed or whether you're seeing enough with respect of re contracting.

Including I guess, the 40 million pounds, you've signed year to date out of long term Buck, but any additional color. There in terms of what's prompting you to restart early relative to the contract book.

Speaker 3: Yep, or Kim, thanks to the question, no change to our strategy at all. We were doing exactly what we said we were gonna do. We've been saying it for years now that, you know, we are gonna prudently manage the company the best interests of our stakeholders. We won't add to an oversupplied market.

Yeah, Tim Thanks for the question no change to our strategy at all we are doing exactly what we said we were going to do what we've been saying it for years now.

We are going to prudently manage the company in the best interests of our stakeholders, we won't add to an oversupplied market, we're not going to produce for inventory we have homes for our production. So you've seen some of the sales.

Speaker 3: We're not going to produce for inventory. We have homes for our production. So you've seen some of the sales commitments we've taken on in the last years, but especially in 2021, and have allowed us to take a look at MacArthur and decide that we're going to...

Commitments, we've taken on in the last years, but especially in in 2021 have allowed us to take a look at Mcarthur and decide what we're going to move to the next phase of our disciplined strategy, which is to get that going you see by 2024, we plan to continue to exercise.

Speaker 3: Move to the next phase of our discipline strategy, which is to get that going. You see by 2024.

Speaker 3: We plan to continue to exercise discipline that's a garlic endomac Arthur. And so we have homes for our production worst. And so, you know, we, I think every day, and I'm looking at grant, we talk about, you know, how many sales should we have now versus how much open, open, internet?

Alan at cigar Lake and at Mcarthur, and so we have homes for our production worse then.

So you know we are we I think every day and I'm looking at grant we talk about how many sales should we have now versus how much open open.

Non commitments should we have going forward, we want to be open going forward and we get the.

Speaker 3: Non-commitments should we have going forward. We want to be open going forward and you know we get people saying, well you don't have enough committed sales now and then you have other saying you have too many committed sales now. So that's both sides. And we think we've made a taking a really prudent approach to that. We have homes for everything we produce or grant. I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

People, saying well you don't have enough committed sales now and then you have other thing you have too many committed sales zones. So that's both sides and we think we've made a taken a really prudent approach to that we have homes for everything we produce sourced grant I don't know if you want to add anything to the asthma.

Speaker 5: Tim, I think it's the absolute right message, obviously.

I think it's the absolute right message obviously here.

Speaker 5: You know, if there's a takeaway on the market side from Kim's comments today, and the message we wanna leave in the market is that we're saying a transition is underway, a transition that is a security of supply driven transition. And it's not as bold a call as you might think, because of course, U.S.C. and Trade Tech.

If there's a takeaway on them.

On the market side from from Tim's comments today in the message we want to leave in the market is that we're saying a transition is underway a transition that is a security.

A supply driven transition and it's not as if that is all the call as you might think because of course, UFC and trade Tech World Nuclear Association have been saying the same thing, but we're clearly seeing it underway.

Speaker 5: World Nuclear Association have been saying the same thing, but we're clearly seeing it underway. There are certainly really important indicators that suggest that's the case.

There are certainly really important indicators that suggest that's the case.

Speaker 5: We're in the early innings of that transition. So for us, it is about balance and it is about discipline. So on the contracting side or as to it really is, a measured patient approach to contracting success with a diversified face of customers building a best in-class book going forward.

We're in the early innings of that transition so for us it is about balance and it is about discipline and so on that on the contracting side or is it really is.

Our measured patient approach to contracting success with a diversified base of customers building a best in class book going forward right.

Speaker 5: But not being sold out now is not the time you want to have a volume strategy and trying to be pushing volume. So with experience in every market transition, let me just say we're exactly where we want to be.

But not being sold out now is not the time you want to have a volume strategy and trying to be pushing volume. So with experience in every market transition. Let me just say we are exactly where we want to be.

Speaker 4: Okay, and Grave, if I could follow up, I mean, you've disclosed that you've sold, I guess, or added 40 million pounds to your long-term contract book in the first month of this year. I mean, that's more than the 30 million pounds of all of last year. Can you maybe give us some color on what's changed as the calendar's world forward here?

Okay, and Greg if I could follow up I mean, you've you've disclosed that you've sold I guess for out at 40 million pounds to your long term contract book in the first month of this year I mean, that's more than the 30 million pounds of all of last year can you maybe give us some color on what's changed is the calendars world.

Forward here.

Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of things that I think are important to draw out. And first of all, the backdrop is the fundamentals. You can't escape that. The understanding that almost on a daily basis, the outlook for demand is...

A couple of things.

That I think are important to dry out and first of all the backdrop is the fundamentals you can't escape that the.

The understanding that almost on a daily basis.

Outlook for demand is improving and almost on a daily basis. The outlook for supply is becoming more uncertain as we think about the risks to existing productive capacity and even greater risks to bringing on new capacity.

Speaker 5: And almost on a daily basis, the outlook for supplies becoming more uncertain as we think about the risks to existing productive capacity and even greater risks.

Speaker 5: to bringing on new capacity in a world where there still is a pandemic. And that pandemic is creating absenteeism and productivity issues and supply chain issues and inflation. And all of those other things, it's just making that supply picture even more uncertain. And so there's a gap. And I think it's just the general recognition that that gap is getting...

World, where there still is a pandemic and that pandemic is creating absenteeism and productivity issues and supply chain issues and inflation and all of those other things, it's just making that supply picture, even more uncertain and so theres a gap and I think it's just a general recognition that that gap is getting bigger and so we've been talking about.

Speaker 5: bigger and so we've been talking about for some time our pipeline and this is clear evidence that when we say in our pipeline between origination and execution we've got a lot of pounds under discussion

For some time our pipeline and this is clear evidence that when we say in our pipeline between origination and execution. We've got a lot of pounds under discussion. This is clear evidence of exactly what we mean so some of this was contracting that.

Speaker 5: This is clear evidence of exactly what we mean. So, you know, some of this...

Speaker 5: was contracting that, you know, not just measured in months or quarters, but years. I mean, these were long discussions and long negotiations and others.

Not just measured in months or quarters, but years I mean, it was these were long discussions and long negotiations and others, we're starting to see a bit of urgency and we're starting to see folks come.

Speaker 5: We're starting to see a bit of urgency and we're starting to see folks come to the market quickly and look to do a deal quickly. And I would note three characteristics.

Them to the market quickly and look to do a deal quickly and I would note three characteristics.

Speaker 5: of this market that I think are important to draw out. Number one is we're seeing tenors increase.

This market that I think are important to drive number one is we're seeing tenors increase.

Speaker 5: You know, back in the days when Carrey Trade was really defining the term price...

In the days when carry trade was really defining the term price we were seeing a lot of term business that was kind of inside that two to five year window, where utilities quite smartly wanted to make sure that there was some carry trade material in competition with produced material in that.

Speaker 5: We were seeing a lot of term business that was kind of inside that two to five year window where utilities quite smartly wanted to make sure that there was some carry trade material in competition with produced material in that window. But now we're seeing the tenor stretch out. You know, RFPs in the market and off market contracts looking for more than five years of material.

Window, but now we're seeing the tenor stretch out.

Rfps in the market and off market contracts looking for more than five years of material in some cases 10 years' worth of material. So the market stretching back into that classic term space that's super important.

Speaker 5: In some cases, 10 years worth of material. So the market stretching back into that classic term space, that's super important fact. Number two, we're seeing volumes increase.

Fact number two we are seeing volumes increase.

Speaker 5: We're seeing utilities come to the market and they're wanting to take bigger bites out of the market. So instead of several hundred thousand pounds, we're seeing several million pounds at a time being taken out of the market. So tenors are increasing, volumes are increasing. But probably most interesting is we're seeing time frames in...

We're seeing utilities come to the come to the market and they are wanting to take bigger bites out of the market. So instead of several hundred thousand pads, we're seeing several million pounds at a time being taken out of the market. So tenders are increasing volumes are increasing but probably most interesting is we're seeing timeframes increase.

Speaker 5: And by time frames, I mean the years in which production is being called for. In Q3, I referenced that some of our negotiations actually span the 2030.

And by Timeframes I mean, the years in which production is being called for in Q3, I referenced that some of our negotiations actually spanned the 20 <unk>.

Speaker 5: You know, all the way through to the end of 2039. We're seeing that in the market today. We're seeing utilities looking for production out in a window when.

All the way through to the end of 2039.

We're seeing that in the market today, we're seeing utilities looking for production out in a window where cigar.

Speaker 5: the garlic will be done. Out in a window when, according to their own disclosures, a heck of a lot of depletion has occurred in Kazakhstan. Out in a window where demand is strong and supply is really uncertain. So these are three really notable changes that I think are behind driving the completion of some of these negotiations.

Cigar Lake will be done out of window when according to their own disclosures a heck of a lot of depletion has occurred in Kazakhstan.

Out in a window, where demand is strong and supply is really uncertain. So these are three really notable changes that are things that I think are behind driving the completion of some of these negotiations where we're in a measured patient way we've had contracting success building that portfolio in a diverse.

Speaker 5: where we're in a measured patient way we've had contracting success, building that portfolio in a diversified way, but make no mistake, the goal here is not to sell out right now because

Suffice way, but make no mistake. The goal here is not to sell out right now because all of them all of the fundamentals suggest there is a stronger price transitioned to come and we want to be part of it.

Speaker 5: All of the fundamental suggests there's a stronger price transition to come and we want to be part of it. Back forward.

Excellent. Thank you.

Thanks George.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Andrew Wong from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Next question is from Andrew Wong from RBC capital markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6: Hey, good morning. So maybe just following on a little bit from that line of discussion and maybe taking it from the other perspective. I'm understanding you know, sold out. But then also, you know, the commentary sounds very bullish for the outlook over the next few years.

Hey, good morning, So maybe just following on a little bit from from that line of discussion and maybe taking it from the other perspective I understand you're not sold out. But then also you know the commentary sounds very bullish for the outlook over the next few years.

Speaker 6: Can you maybe just talk about the decision to add volumes now to your contract book because obviously that was a lot of volumes that were added in January and Q4

Can you maybe just talk about the decision to add volumes now to your contract book, because obviously that was a lot of volumes that were added in January in Q4.

Speaker 6: versus maybe waiting a little bit longer. I understand these are contract discussions of the howl over several years and it's fun, it's easy. It's just waiting, but can just talk about the thinking around that strategy.

Versus maybe waiting a little bit longer I understand these are contract discussions that you have over several years.

As easy as just waiting but can you just talked about.

And around that strategy. Thanks, Yeah. Thanks, Andrew Littered, let me get a market expert grant to answer that.

Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Andrew Leonard. Let me get our market expert grant dancer that go ahead.

Speaker 5: Yeah, and I actually appreciate the pivot to that question, Andrew, because it really highlights.

Yeah, and I actually appreciate the pivot to that question, Andrew because it really highlights.

Speaker 5: the boundary questions that we get. There are those who ask us, why contract anything at all? Why don't you just hold out?

The boundary questions that we get there are those who who ask us why contract anything at all why don't you just hold out.

Speaker 5: Get all your production ready. Hell even produce some of it in inventory and wait till the market is at

Get all your production ready Hell, even produced some of it in inventory and wait till the market is at $100 a pound and then sell it well that's not how the uranium market works.

Speaker 5: $100 a pound and then sell it all. Well, that's not how the Uranium market works. Just by virtue of that strategy, the market would never achieve those prices. And then we get the other question, which is why don't you sell more? Why don't you have more under contract?

Just by virtue of that strategy the market would never achieved those prices and then we get the other question, which is why don't you sell more why don't you have more under contract and so those are the kind of boundary conditions. So to those who say why contract anything right now we say well. This is how the Iranian market, where it is not a spot market. It is not a.

Speaker 5: And so those are the kind of boundary conditions. So to those who say, why contract anything right now, we say, well, this is how the Iranian market works. It is not a spot market. It is not a market where...

A market, where you have an opportunity on an annual basis to capture full global demand because it re charges every 12 months, that's not how the Iranian market works you Randy market works, where utilities come typically in waves and they look to layer in volumes and they push enough <unk>.

Speaker 5: you have an opportunity on an annual basis to capture full global demand because it recharges every 12 months. That's not how the Uranium Market works. Uranium Market works where utilities come typically in way.

Speaker 5: and they look to layer in volumes and they push enough contracting that we hit not only replacement rate but above replacement rate.

Tracking that we hit not only replacement rate, but above replacement rate.

Speaker 5: And then when they've covered a lot of their demand going forward, they step out of the market and we enter those complacency periods. So for us, it's about responding to the actual market and industrial structure of the Uranium space, not to some mythical spot market assumption for creating value in Uranium because that's been a failed strategy over and over again.

And then when they have covered a lot of their demand going forward. They step out of the market and we enter those complacency period. So for us it's about responding to the actual market and industrial structure of the uranium space not to.

Mythical spot market assumption for creating value in uranium because thats been a failed strategy over and over again so for US. It's about building that balanced portfolio, we talk about it at great length in our MD&A H 'twenty just to just to flag. It. Please read it talking about this balanced portfolio.

Speaker 5: So for us it's about building that balanced portfolio. We talk about it at great length in our MD&A page 20, just to flag it, please read it. Talking about this balanced portfolio, we build this best in class portfolio with a diversified customer base. This permits our supply decision.

We build this best in class portfolio with that.

With a diversified customer base. This permits are supply decisions. So we built the homes then we plan to supply. This also permits support for the long term value of our assets and it supports significant financial performance. So so that's the why we do it now to the question.

Speaker 5: So we built the homes, then we plan the supply. This also permits support for the long-term value of our-

Speaker 5: and it supports significant financial performance. So that's the why we do it now. To the question, why not be sold out? Well, now's the wrong time to be sold out. We are in the early innings of a market recovery.

Why not be sold out well now is the wrong time to be sold out.

We are in the early innings of a market recovery.

Speaker 5: The uncommitted requirements, 1.4 billion pounds of uranium to be bought over the next 12-13 years according to UXC. Of course, when you're looking for the uranium component of it, you've got less time to buy. That's a lot of demand that's got to come to the market. A lot of that demand is going to come our way. A security of supply transition underway, I talked about tenors.

Uncommitted requirements, one 4 billion pounds of uranium to be bought over the next two.

<unk> 13 years, according to <unk> of course, when Youre looking for the uranium component of it <unk> got less time to buy that's a lot of demand that's got to come to the market a lot of that demand is going to come our way a security of supply transition underway I talked about tenors volumes and timeframes, increasing those are great indicators.

Speaker 5: volumes and time frames, increasing. Those are great indicators that suggest to us there's more values. We want to be deliberately and strategically leveraged.

That suggests to US there is more value so we want to be deliberately and strategically leveraged.

Speaker 5: And so this then morphs over into our balanced contracting discipline is matched by our balanced supply discipline. So the main message to take away here is yes, MacArthur key are moving to operate.

And so this then morphed over into our balanced contracting discipline is matched by our balanced supply discipline. So that the main message to take away here is yes, mcarthur key or moving to operational readiness.

Speaker 5: But the main message is that supply discipline is continuing indefinite.

Main messages that supply discipline is continuing indefinitely supply discipline is now including cigar Lake supply discipline on a planned basis is 40% or more of our productive capacity will remain in a disciplined position and it requires further improvements in the market in.

Speaker 5: Supply discipline is now including cigar la.

Speaker 5: Supply discipline on a plan basis is 40% or more of our productive capacity will remain in a discipline position and it requires further improvements in the market in order to to to see us move to increase that production and along the way as this transition happens we remain over contracted. We have more sales than we have sources of supply so we are still going to be a present

Order too.

See us move to increase that production and along the way as this transition happens we remain over contracted we have more sales than we have sources of supply. So we are still going to be a presence in the market purchasing so for us it.

Speaker 5: in the market purchasing. So for us, it's about balance and it's about discipline and our experience with every type of cycle tells us this is exactly where we want it.

It's about balance and it's about discipline and our experience with every cycle tells us this is exactly where we want to be.

Speaker 6: That's very helpful commentary. And then just to follow up on the production costs in 2024, with when Tagara and MacArthur are up and running, I think can cause me doing some work to kind of improve the efficiency there, so it allows you to do partial ramp ups. But obviously you might not get some of the economies of scale benefit, so can just plackable the costs that in 2024 versus what we have to historically.

Great. That's very helpful commentary and then just a follow up on the production costs in 2024.

One cigar and Mcarthur are up and running I think chemicals to be doing some work to kind of improve the efficiencies. There. So it allows you to do partial.

Ups, but obviously like you might not get some of the economies of scale benefit. So can you just talked about the costs.

2024 versus what we have seen historically.

Speaker 5: Well, we obviously don't have guidance on 2024 operating cost out there, but but what I can tell you is, uh,

Well, we obviously don't have guidance on 2024 operating cost out there, but but what I can tell you is that.

Speaker 5: our chief operating officer and his excellent team are looking at the life of my technical report costs and saying, you know, here is our marker. And so if I just remind everybody on the call that the technical reports that we have outstanding from MacArthur.

Our chief operating officer and his excellent team.

Looking at the life of mine Technical report costs and say here is our marker and so if I just remind everybody on the call that the technical reports that we have outstanding for Mcarthur cigar and <unk> on a Canadian dollar basis have operating costs at <unk>.

Speaker 5: Sugara and Inc. on a Canadian dollar basis have operating costs it.

Speaker 5: 1475 per pound at MacArthur.

<unk> 75 per pound at Mcarthur F 15, 98% to $16 per pound at cigar and less than $7 per pound at <unk>. So if you think about mcarthur cigar those are the targets that we're working towards you know.

Or better in an inflationary environment.

Environment, a difficult supply chain those are the targets that we were striving for and.

Speaker 6: You can imagine that we have laser focus on the economic performance of those incredible assets. Great, thank you very much. Thanks Andrew. The next question is from Alexander Pierce from BMO. Please go ahead. Great morning all. Great to see those contract volumes come through the last couple of months. I've got a kind of two-part question to those contracts. Obviously you've stated your target previously. I think so.

You can imagine that we have laser focus on the economic performance of those incredible assets.

Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Thanks Andrew.

Great. Thank you very much thanks, Andrew.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Alexander Pierce from BMO. Please go ahead.

The next question is from Alexander Pearce from BMO. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7: Great morning all. Great to see those contract volumes come through in the last couple of months. We're going to kind of two part questions to those contracts.

Great morning, all it's great to see those contract volumes come through the last couple of months.

I've got kind of two part question. So those countries obviously, you've got a you've stated previously so I think it's 40 60 kind of fixed market related pricing portfolio. Just wondering if maybe you could just comment on how how about fits utilities kind of covered preferences at the minute and what you've seen.

Speaker 7: Obviously you've got to, you've stated your target previously is I think it's 46th kind of fixed market related pricing portfolio. I just wanted, there maybe you could just comment on how that fits utilities kind of current preferences at the minute and what you've seen. You know, are they both aligned and then also maybe, you know, given the volume, you could just kind of comment on what we haven't seen much volatility in the term price yet.

Are they both the lines and then also maybe given the volume.

Just kind of comment on what we haven't seen much volatility in the term price yet.

Speaker 5: Well, to your first question about our portfolio, yeah, we have talked about this 60, 40 balance. And I'm glad you raised it because it does. I think there's often confusion about what we mean there. We don't mean we want a balance between market related and base escalated in any single contract or any single

Well to your.

To your first question about our portfolio, yes, we have talked about this 60 40 balance and I'm glad you raised it because it does.

There's there's often confusion about what we mean there we don't mean, we want a balance between market related and base escalated in any single contract.

Or any single year, what we mean is that over the lifetime of the portfolio and full cycle when our market has gone through.

Speaker 5: What we mean is that over the lifetime of the portfolio and full cycle when our market has gone through one of those security of supply driven contracting cycles, but also when our market has lived through those moments where fuel buyers cover a lot of their run rate requirements and then they step back and we see those periods of complacency which is just a natural function of the long term nature of our market. That's where we say we want to be balanced. So what we need to think about in today's...

One of those security of supply driven contracting cycles, but also win our market has lived through those moments where fuel buyers cover a lot of their run rate requirements and then they stepped back and we see those periods of complacency, which is just a natural function of the long term nature of our market, that's where we say we.

We want to be balanced so what we need to think about in today's context is our preference on our pricing mechanism relative to where we are in a cycle and today our preference is market related.

Speaker 5: is our preference on our pricing mechanism relative to where we are in a cycle. And today, our preference is market-related.

Speaker 5: We see a cycle that's starting to form some very important notable indicators, tenor, volume and time frames that I talked about, the wedge of uncovered requirements, the supply uncertainty all suggests that there's still price formation ahead of us. We want to be leveraged to that. So our preference right now is very strongly market related as opposed to fixing in today's price. But I would say we're misaligned.

We see a cycle that's starting to for some very important notable indicators tenor volume and Timeframes that I talked about the ways you've uncovered requirements. The supply uncertainty. All suggests that there is still price formation ahead of us we want to be leveraged to that so our preference right now.

Very strongly market related.

As opposed to fixing in todays price, but I would say were misaligned.

Speaker 5: with a general fuel buyer on that idea. Because I think the fuel buyers around the nuclear space also recognize that the outlook for demand is improving and the outlook for supply is uncertain. And I can almost gonna prove this by just the approach to the market. If we see fuel buyers wanting to lock

With a general a fuel buyer on that idea because I think the fuel buyers around around the nuclear space also recognize that the outlook for demand is improving and the outlook for supply is uncertain and I can almost kind of prove this.

But just the approach to the market.

We see fuel buyers wanting to lock in prices today.

Speaker 5: because they know the price is going to go up. Or if you think about it alternatively, we have a market-related preference to camics.

Because they know the price is going to go up or if you think about it Alternatively, we have a market related preference at cameco and if the fuel buyers believed the price was never going to go up.

Speaker 5: And if the fuel buyers believe the price was never gonna go up.

Speaker 5: or that it was at some sort of peak right now and it was only going to go down, we would have zero problem signing market related contracts because the fuel buyer would say, oh look, I know the prices is at or above, you know, it's peak, it's only going to come down. So you idiots are taking all of the risk here in the market. So sure, we'll sign a market related contract and over to you.

Or that it was at some sort of peak right now and it was only going to go down we would have zero problem signing market related contracts because of Shaw buyer would say Oh look I know the price is at or above its peak, it's only going to come down so you idiots or take it all of the riskier than the market. So sure we'll sign of market relate.

Contract and over to you.

Speaker 5: But that's not the situation. They look at the fundamentals the same way we do.

But that's not the situation they look at the fundamentals are the same way we do.

Speaker 5: They see price pressure and they're looking to lock it in and and what we find is that the on market competitive RFPs are greeted by Some of the suppliers who are still willing to lock in that value. It's not us, but others are

They see.

Price pressure and Theyre looking to lock it in and what we find is that the on market competitive rfps are greeted by some of the suppliers who are still willing to lock in that value not us, but others are so where we're having success in these off market pipeline discussions that we talk about.

Speaker 5: So where we're having success is in these off-market pipeline discussions that we talk about, where there is an understanding that we need this market-related exposure in order to part with our material out into the future. So we're not fully aligned in the market. We're not at one of those full security of supply contracting cycles yet. We're in the early innings of one, which is great news, but we're not fully there yet, and we see that in the data.

Where there is an understanding that we need this market related exposure in order to part with our material out into the future. So we're not fully aligned in the market. We're not at one of those full security of supply contracting cycles, yet we're in the early innings of one which is great news, but we're not fully there yet and we see that.

In the data 75 million pounds of term contracting according to UFC, that's less than half of replacement rate contracting. So a lot of upside a lot of demand and that demand is going to bring with it price formation and we want to be leveraged to that price formation. So that's sort of how we look at that balance.

Speaker 5: 75 million pounds of turn contracting according to UXC. That's less than half of replacement rate contracting. So a lot of upside, a lot of demand, and that demand is going to bring with it price formation, and we want to be leveraged to that price formation. So that's sort of how we look at that balance. It's the pricing mechanism, our preference on the pricing mechanism is a function of where we are in the market today. Second part of...

The pricing mechanism or preference on the pricing mechanism is a function of where we are in the market today.

Second part of your question was.

Speaker 7: It was about why we haven't seen much of a move in the term price, like we haven't seen that. Yeah, thank you. The

Hi, This is about why we haven't seen much of them, even the turbine prices like we have let's see yes, yes.

Thank you.

The term market, obviously saw a very significant structural move in the fall as the as we saw a lot of spot market buying especially with the presence of financials and in particular, the scribe physical uranium trust, we saw a lot of material coming out of the spot market.

Speaker 5: Obviously saw a very significant structural move in the fall.

Speaker 5: As we saw a lot of spot market buying, especially with the presence of financials, and in particular the Sprite Physical Uranium Trust, we saw a lot of material coming out of the spot market.

Speaker 5: That was pushing up the spot price, but more importantly, it was drying up the carry trade It was drying up those uncommitted volumes that didn't have a home that were splashing through the spot market and And and became a source of utilities to say hey, I don't have to go into the term market I'll go into the spot market and find somebody to carry those pounds on an interest rate a low interest rate carry

That was pushing up the spot price, but more importantly, it was drawing up the carry trade. It was drawing up those uncommitted volumes that didn't have a home that were splashing through the spot market and became a source of utilities to say, hey, I don't have to go into the term market I'll go into the spot market and find somebody to <unk>.

Harry those pounds on an interest rate a low interest rate carry those pounds began to dry up. So we saw we saw rfps in the market that we're really targeting producers and we saw producers.

Speaker 5: Those pounds began to dry up. So we saw RFPs in the market that were really targeting producers and we saw producers.

Speaker 5: I think sufficiently disciplined to see the term price push up in

I think sufficiently disciplined to see the term price push up into the fours.

Speaker 5: Since then, I think the RFPs have been greeted with a little bit more aggression than we

Stan I think the rfps have been greeted with.

A little bit more aggression, then we would take in this market, but it does reflect I think a couple of things.

Speaker 5: in this market, but it does reflect, I think, a couple of things.

Speaker 5: I think that a few of the producers in the market probably don't have the same value focus we do and are a little more interested in volume. But also I think that some of the participants

I think that a few of the producers in the market probably don't have the same value focus we do and are a little more interested in volume.

But also I think that some of the participants on the sell side of the market don't have experience with every contracting cycle like we do and I think the third issue is they don't enjoy the off market pipeline negotiations that we do so I think all of those things are a bit of a combination where.

Speaker 5: On the sell side of the market, don't have experience with every contracting cycle like we do. And I think the third issue is they don't enjoy the off-market pipeline negotiations that we do. So I think all of those things are a bit of a combination where the initial push, the response was, uranium needs to be priced with a four and we got there very quickly in the term market. And then we've seen some competition.

The initial push their response was uranium needs to be priced with a four and we got there very quickly in the term market and then we've seen some competition.

Speaker 5: on the on market RFPs to win that business. I can't go has not been very successful at all in any of that business. But others have been and we just have to work through this. We just have to work through a few of these volume targets. But here's the good news. 1.4 billion pounds of uncovered requirements as a heck of a lot of demand that still has to come into the market.

On the on market Rfps.

When that business Cameco has not been very successful at all in any of that business, but others have been.

And we just have to work through this we just have to work through a few of these volume targets, but here's the good news one 4 billion pounds of uncovered requirements at a heck of a lot of demand thats still has to come into the market.

Thanks, Rob that's pretty helpful.

Thanks, Alex.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Greg Barnes from TD Securities. Please go ahead.

The next question is from Greg Barnes from TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8: Thank you. We all are being said, Grant, do you think you are capturing market share given the events of counter-stand and security supply being something central to you? Okay.

Thank you with all that being said grant do you think you are capturing market share given the events of Kazakhstan and secure the supply chain.

Central to you.

Hey.

Speaker 5: Yeah, this has been a trend for us. You know, when you and others have asked over the years about this pipeline that we keep referring to, which of course, we're...

Yeah.

This has been a.

A trend for us.

When you and others have asked over the years about this pipeline that we keep referring to which of course.

Speaker 5: Today, here's the evidence of it. So trust us when I say that our pipeline continues to be very robust going forward. But when you've asked in the past, well, why would utilities be interested in that? The answer is a variety of reasons. I think over the years, we've seen a shift to focus on origin.

Today, here's the evidence of it so trust us when I say that our pipeline continues to be very robust going forward.

But when you have asked in the past well why would utilities be interested in that the answer is a variety of reasons.

I think over the years, we've seen a shift.

To focus on origins because of trade policy concerns I think that just the globalization trend in the nuclear fuel cycle is under a little bit of pressure.

Speaker 5: because of trade policy concerns. I think that just the globalization trend in the nuclear fuel cycle is under a little bit of pressure because of trade policy concerns, because of geopolitical concerns. And that has been a fact.

Because of trade policy concerns because of geopolitical concerns and that has been a factor so.

Speaker 5: So we've seen the pursuit of certain origins and more diversity there. I think that for some of the customer base that we've dealt with off market, it's a function of...

So we've seen the pursuit of certain origins and more diversity. There I think I think that for some of the customer base that we've dealt with off market. It's a function of bringing balance back into their portfolio. They may have used low prices as an opportunity to fill up on other origins and on other suppliers and of.

Speaker 5: bringing balance back into their portfolio. You know, they may have used low prices.

Speaker 5: as an opportunity to fill up on other origins and on other suppliers. And of course, we were very resistant to do any contracting through that window. And so I think Camico's share of some of those utilities fell and then they needed us back in their portfolio.

Of course, we were very resistant to do any contracting through that window.

So I think cameco share of some of those utilities fell and then they needed us back in their portfolio.

Speaker 5: And then I think the CSG piece, let's not underestimate that one of the things that many of our customers are targeting is the type of financing cost savings that come from green financing. But when you put yourself forward.

And then I think this ESG piece, let's.

Let's not underestimate that one of the things that many of our customers.

Our targeting is the type of financing cost savings that come from green financing, but when you put yourself forward.

Speaker 5: to achieve some of that green finance and you are being judged.

To achieve some of that green financing you are being judged.

Speaker 5: according to a set of ES and G criteria for which Camaco is super competitive.

According to a set of ESG criteria for which cameco is super competitive on those criteria I think we enjoy competitive advantages over others and that's also a factor. So there are a number of things coming together and I think the geopolitical like you referenced as one.

Speaker 5: on those criteria. I think we enjoy competitive advantages over others. And that's also a factor. So there are a number of things coming together. And I think the geopolitical, like you referenced as one, but it's a number of factors that are coming together to drive this ability for us to, at a measured and patient rate bring in some contracting success, but still retain the leverage to more of it that we see in the market.

It's a number of factors that are coming together to drive this.

Its ability for us to at a measured and patient right, bringing in some contracting success, but still retain the leverage to more of it that we see in the market.

Speaker 8: And just back to Andrew's question about the cost.

That's correct.

Back to Andrew's question about cost.

It just seems odd to bring cingal down, which obviously would be more economic to run at full capacity and bring mcarthur up where the low rate it wouldn't be as well of course.

Speaker 8: It just seems odd to bring the God down, which obviously would be more economic to run. The focus is to bring the car to the rub where at a low rate it wouldn't be as low a car. So just how is that balance being worth down?

How does that balance being worked out.

Yeah, I would think about that that balance is a portfolio approach I mean, obviously, having one tier one asset running and the other is zero.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think about that balance as a portfolio approach. I mean, obviously having one tier one asset running and the other at zero is a very difficult economic proposition. So for us, as we had success in building homes and as we retain leverage to that future demand that's coming, it just makes sense to step back and say, okay, having MacArthur at zero doesn't make economic sense.

Is that.

A very difficult economic proposition so for us as we had success in building homes and as we retained leverage to that future demand thats coming it just makes sense to step back and say, okay, having macarthur at zero doesn't make economic sense, but but we can't be done.

Speaker 5: But we can't be done supply discipline yet, so we still have to be disciplined. So it's the balance between the two. It's looking at the Northern Saskatchewan production as a cluster, if you will, and balancing it with what the CAS apps are doing in Casatum Prong.

Supply discipline, yet so we still have to be disciplined so it's the balance between the two it's looking at the northern Saskatchewan production as a cluster if you will and balancing it with what the Kazakhs are doing it because Adam problem. So for US. This is actually a very attractive scenario.

Speaker 5: So for us, this is actually a very attractive scenario to have both assets included. An additional advantage with cigar lake, of course, is now the extension of what we've referred to as phase one. So the cigar lake joint venture is now looking at an opportunity to extend the life of that asset.

To have both assets included an additional advantage with cigar Lake of course is now the extension of what we've referred to as phase one so the cigar Lake joint venture.

Now looking at an opportunity to extend the life of that asset.

Speaker 5: not be forced into a decision about what to do with phase two in a market that's in the early innings of a transition, which of course is a good place to be. And reserve some of those pounds for what we think is a better price scenario anyway. So for us on balance, think of it as a portfolio decision, a portfolio decision that allows us to.

Not be forced into a decision about what to do with phase two in a market. That's in the early innings of the transition.

Which of course is a good place to be and reserve some of those pounds for what we think is a better price scenario anyway. So for us on balance think of it as a portfolio decision a portfolio decision that allows us to.

Speaker 5: Begin to restore our tier one cost structure. Get out from under those care and maintenance costs at MacArthur, but then run both in a very disciplined fashion balanced with the opportunities we're seeing in the market.

Begin to restore our tier one cost structure get out from under those care and maintenance costs at Mcarthur, but then run both in a very disciplined fashion balanced with the opportunities we're seeing in the market.

Great. Thanks.

Thanks, Greg.

Okay.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Lawson Winder from the OVA Securities. Please go ahead.

The next question is from Lawson Winder from Bofa Securities. Please go ahead.

Hi, Good morning, Thank you for the update and.

Speaker 9: Hi, good morning. Thank you for the update and

And some excitement in our marketing with the new contracting announcements to.

Speaker 9: and some excitement in our morning with the new contracting announcement. Two questions for me. So first off,

Two questions for me.

First off I think it would be.

Speaker 9: I think it would be really helpful to...

Really helpful to understand the nature of some of the contracting you've done beyond your realized conversion pricing tables are beyond 2026th so clearly in that in that table. There are a series of price caps and that's why at a $140 you expect around $74 pricing.

Speaker 9: Understand the nature of some of the contract and you've done beyond your realized conversion pricing tables or beyond 2026. So clearly in that table, there are a series of price caps.

Speaker 9: And that's why at $140 you expect around $74 pricing. But when we look out beyond 2026, should we think of the...

But when we look out beyond 2026.

Should we think of the Blue Sky in similar terms or is there more market related further out and then.

Speaker 9: in similar terms or is there more market related further out? And then, you know, along with that, if you can provide any commentary in terms of, you know, the 70 million pounds of new contracting, how that looks.

Along with that if you can provide any commentary in terms of.

The 70 million pounds of new contracting how that looks.

Speaker 9: geographically as well as in light of sort of the type of contracting in terms of market versus

Geographically.

As well as in light of sort of the type of contracting in terms of market versus.

Speaker 9: market versus fixed would be very helpful. Thanks.

Market versus fixed would be very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 5: That makes lots of grand here on a contracting role, whether to keep going. Yeah, absolutely. So great questions, and thanks for recognizing.

Thanks Grant during on a contract enrollment to keep going yeah, absolutely so great questions and thanks for recognizing.

Speaker 5: that how our cable is constructed. And I want to spend a bit of time on that because I think it's really important. And I think it's a source of confusion for a few folks that find themselves commenting on Camico in appropriately at times.

That's how our table is constructed and I want to spend a bit of time on that because I think it's really important and I think it's a source of confusion for.

A few folks.

The training themselves, commenting on cameco and appropriately at times.

Speaker 5: So the contracting nature, I said that the pricing mechanisms that we're pursuing, we have a preference for market related right now. So no surprise what we're really interested in is that market exposure out into the future. So that's one source of leverage. The second source of leverage is of course the pounds that we haven't sold yet. So remember that our table is constructed in a very specific way, and it's different than others in our industry. Given that, my parents who was back in the country were established, to be immenselyABZHA nonprofit,

The contracting nature, I said that the pricing mechanisms that we're pursuing we have a preference for market related right now so no surprise, what we're really interested in that market exposure out into the future. So that's one source of leverage the second source of Leverages of course, the paths that we haven't sold yet and so remember that.

Our table is constructed in a very specific way and it's different than others in our industry. So.

Speaker 5: Our table only shows our current commitments over the next five years. Sort of that lower wedge of what we're going to deliver each year over the next five years that is known to us.

Our cable only shows our current commitments over the next five years sort of that lower wedge of what we're going to deliver each year over the next five years that is known to us.

Speaker 5: It does not reflect the sensitivity in that table, does not reflect the unsolved pounds in any of those years. And so we see others in our market that will construct their price sensitivity table by assuming a top-line sales number, for example.

It does not reflect the sensitivity in that cable does not reflect the unsold pounds in any of those years and so we see others in our market that will construct their price sensitivity table by assuming a top line sales number for example, and so the lower wedge is what they know theyre going to sell and then they.

Speaker 5: And so the lower wedge is what they know they're going to spell. And then they just assume that every pound that's not currently committed in those subsequent years is sold at spot. And that's an easy way to construct a table. But we believe it's pretty.

Assume that every pound thats not currently committed in those subsequent years is sold at spot and Thats, an easy way to construct a table, but we believe it's pretty misleading, it's pretty misleading because as we constantly say the spot is not the market. If you had a primary producer who in years.

Speaker 5: It's pretty misleading because as we constantly say, the spot is not the market.

Speaker 5: If you had a primary producer who in years four and five were planning on selling over 70% of their production

Four and five were planning on selling over 70% of their production in some cases.

Speaker 5: in some cases, in the spot market, you would never achieve the higher prices that the table is supposed to be showing sensitivity to. So we don't construct our table that way. So that's a really important thing to note. Secondly, of the contracting that we're having success with, a lot of it is falling outside that table. And that goes back to my comment about tenors and time frames.

In the spot market you would never achieved the higher prices that the table is supposed to be showing sensitivity too. So we don't construct our table that way. So that's that's really important.

Thing to note secondly of the contracting that we're having success with a lot of it is falling outside that table and that goes back to my comment about tenors and timeframes, increasing so we're seeing demand out beyond that five year window. So of course, that's not included in there is information.

Speaker 5: increasing so we're seeing demand out beyond that five year window so of course that's not included in there as information so our table at any one point in time is like trying to take a snapshot of a moving train and in this case I would say a bullet train that's going very fast and we're kind of just trying to freeze it in time and give you an idea what that performance of the table looks like so we have a market related

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Our table at any one point in time is like trying to take a snapshot of a moving train and in this case I would say a bullet train that's going very fast and we're kind of just trying to freeze it in time and give you an idea what that performance of the table looks like.

So we have a market related.

Speaker 5: preference and we want the market-related portion of our committed sales to capture higher prices, but really it's also a story of the pounds we have in sold, which will be sold in we think a market that that's a stronger transition. So those two things together is actually how you measure our true sensitivity rather than assuming that table applies for all the pounds out in the future even the ones that aren't committed.

Preference and we watch the market related portion of our committed sales to capture higher prices, but really it's also a story of the pounds, we havent sold which will be sold in and we think a market that has a stronger transition. So those two things together is actually how you measure our true sensitivity rather than assuming that table apply.

For all of the pans out in the future even the ones that arent committed so that contracting table. It's we think it's the right way to construct it takes a bit of work to understand it but we appreciate when those folks make that investment and take the time and it really does capture.

Speaker 5: So that contracting table is that, you know, we think it's the right way to construct it, takes a bit of work to understand it, but we appreciate when those folks make that investment and take the time, and it really does capture where that leverage point is going to be.

Where that leverage point is going to be.

Speaker 5: On the 70 million pounds of contracting, just in terms of characterizing it.

On the 70 million pounds of contracting just in terms of characterizing it again, we build a balanced portfolio. So you think about a number of things pricing mechanism matters to us not necessarily the price today, but the mechanism by which we're going to price those paths, we have a preference for market.

Speaker 5: Again, we build a balanced portfolio. So you think about a number of things. Pricing mechanism matters to us. Not necessarily the price today, but the mechanism by which we're going to price those pounds.

Speaker 5: We have a preference for market related. So, you know, our interest is not to price the pounds right now. It's to price them in the market in which they're going to be delivered. And I would say, we've been very clear about that. And we've had success in making sure that there's that market related exposure for those pounds out into the future. But in a market like we're in today,

Related so our interest is not to price the pounds right now it's to price them in the market in which they are going to be delivered and I would say, we've been very clear about that and we've had success in making sure that there's that market related exposure.

For those pans out into the future, but in a market like we're in today you almost think about a breakpoint where over the next couple of years. If we saw demand right now in sort of 'twenty three 'twenty four 'twenty five you'll still have a beta competition from some carry trade and so.

Speaker 5: You almost think about a break point where over the next couple of years, if we saw a demand right now in sort of 23, 24, 25, you'll still have a bit of competition from some carry trade. And so you do see a bit of pricing.

You do see a bit of pricing in today's market in the early part of some of the contracting structures that have been successful in the market and then you see a reversion to production economics afterwards or more market related indicators. Afterwards, that's just how the uranium market works you could hold your breath under.

Speaker 5: in today's markets in the early part of some of the contracting structures that are been successful in the market. And then you see a reversion to production economics afterwards, or more market-related indicators afterwards. That's just how the Uranian market works. Hold your breath underwater and say, well, we're just not going to participate in this market. But then you run the risk.

Water and say well, we're just not going to participate in this market, but then you run the risk that you're going to let other important aspects of your balanced portfolio walk by regional diversification customer diversification and product diversification, what you'd never want to be in the uranium market is overweight one region.

Speaker 5: that you're going to let other important aspects of your balance portfolio walk by regional diversification, customer diversification, product diversification. What you never want to be in the Uranium market is overweight one region or one customer or one product form. You want to construct with the market as demand comes.

Or one customer or one product for you want to you want to construct with the market as demand comes but you want to retain the leverage that reflects your view of where the fundamentals are at that tell you built full cycle value.

Speaker 5: But you want to retain the leverage that reflects your view of where the fundamentals are at. That's how you build full cycle value.

Speaker 5: from balanced contracting discipline, and then that informs your supply decisions. Now you plan your supply to meet where you've built homes. That's how values create.

From balanced contracting discipline, and then that informs your supply decisions now you plan your supply to meet where you've built homes. That's how value is created.

Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for the comments. I'd also like to get an idea for what the bullet train might look like in 2022 in terms of contracting. So, you know, speaking to industry sources that we have, you know, indications are that contracting is expected to continue to be very strong for the remainder of 2022.

Yeah. Thanks for the comments I'd also like to get.

An idea for what the bullet train might look like in 2022 in terms of contracting.

Speaking to industry sources that we have no indications are that contracting is expected to continue to be very strong for the remainder of 2022.

Hum.

Speaker 9: What would your expectation be or what kind of guidance can you provide us in terms of additional contracting that that could be possible in 2022?

What would your expectation be or what kind of guidance can you provide us in terms of additional contracting that that could be possible in 2022.

Speaker 5: You're probably picking up significant optimism in our comments and you would be right in interpreting us as being optimistic on where the market is at. We know that in the uranium space contracting begets contract.

Youre probably picking up.

Significant optimism in our comments.

You would be right in interpreting us as being optimistic on where the market is at.

We know that in the uranium space contracting begets contracting.

Speaker 5: When there's very little contracting going on, it sort of Confirms the view of something that they don't have to worry about where uranium their uranium supplies coming from in the future But when you start to see contracting success and when you start to see the future production not yet pulled out of the ground already being claimed

When there is very little contracting going on it's sort of confirms the view of some that they don't have to worry about where uranium their uranium supply is coming from in the future, but when you start to see contracting success and when you start to see that.

Future production not yet pulled out of the ground already being claimed.

Speaker 5: That tends to then motivate others to say, hey, I need to lay a claim to some of those pounds too. So, you know, you don't have to look any further back than in the Uranus space than in 2010. When we saw the big new entrance to the market, the Chinese step into the term market for the first time, it wasn't that the rest of the utilities were short material in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014. It was that...

That tends to then motivate others to say, hey, I need to lay a claim to some of those pounds too. So you don't have to look any further back then in the uranium space than in 2010, when we saw the big new entrant to the market the Chinese step into the term market for the first time it wasn't that the rest of the utilities were sure.

Material in 2011, 2012, 2013 2014, it was that <unk>.

Speaker 5: China stepped in to start contracting material largely 2014 to 2024 when the rest of them hadn't kind of paid much attention to that window. And then that triggered

<unk> stepped in to start contracting material largely 2014 to 2024, when the rest of them hadn't paid much attention to that window and then that triggered.

Speaker 5: real contracting cycle to lock in volume.

Real contracting cycle to lock in volumes. So I see nothing today that suggests that the current cycle is any different so we know contracting begets contracting as we have success and I would note that his Adam problem in a recent disclosure talked about the success, they're having in contract.

Speaker 5: So I see nothing today that suggests that the current cycle is any different. We know contracting begets contracting it as we have success. And I would note that his Adam Pram and Aracent Disclosure talked about the success they're having in contracting. These are all future pounds that are being claimed in a window where there's a lot of uncertainty about supply.

These are all future paths that are being claimed in a window, where theres a lot of uncertainty about supply.

Speaker 5: and the demand outlook is improving. So we are quite optimistic on what the prospects for contracting are in 2022. We know that our own pipeline continues to be robust and hopefully with the results you see today, people trust us when we say that. So we're optimistic, awesome.

And the demand outlook is improving so we are quite optimistic on what the prospects for contracting or in 2022, we know that our own pipeline continues to be robust and hopefully with the results you see today people Trust us when they when we say that so we're optimistic Lawson.

Okay. Thank you very much thanks Lawson.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Brian MacArthur from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

The next question is from Brian Macarthur from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Good morning. So my first question is.

Speaker 10: Good morning. So my first question is.

Speaker 10: And I applaud for sure the Chrysler volume strategy, but how do you probably take it maybe a little longer than your first thought? The care maintenance costs, you know, build up every year. How do you think about that when you go to customers now? So, for instance, say, I thought originally I want $45 a pound and...

And I applaud for sure the price over volume strategy, but how do you.

Probably take it maybe a little longer than you first thought the care and maintenance cost.

Buildup every year, how do you think about that when you go to customers now. So for instance, say I thought originally I want at $45 a pound and.

Speaker 10: you know now it's taking me two years longer so I've absorbed another 200 million in.

Now it's taken me two years launder still have absorbed another $200 million in cash.

Speaker 10: standby cost. Do I tie and sell that same pound at $48 now a pound versus 45 to you know, balance out shareholders getting an additional return for the longer way? Do you do is that how you sort of think about it in the context of the market as well? And the second part of that is with that in place spending you know, roughly $60 million for your...

And by costs do I tied.

Now that same pound at $48 now Pam versus 45 two.

Balance out shareholders getting an additional return for a longer way to do it.

How are you sort of think about it in the context of the market as well and the second part of that is with that in place spending you know roughly $60 million for your tier two assets and I get it there's some diversification with source grip, which you talked about how do you think about how long you're willing to do that because obviously those pounds won't be quite as profitable coming forward.

Speaker 10: here two assets and I get it. There's some diversification with source grit, which you talked about. How do you think about how long you're willing to do that? Because obviously those pounds won't be quite as possible coming forward.

Speaker 5: Yeah, great, great questions. There's always Ryan. Let me start with the first question on how we think about the sunk cost of care and maintenance versus price discovery in the market. And I would just say we look at our strategy as an investment.

Yes, great great questions as always Brian Let me, let me start with the first question on how we think about.

The the sunk.

Cost of care and maintenance.

Versus price discovery in the market.

I would just say we look at our strategy as an investment.

Speaker 5: Our supply discipline strategy was an investment in the future value of our assets. On a top line basis, you know, the 114, 150 million pounds that we've left in the ground. Since we started our extreme supply discipline, you would have priced at what, $18 a pound in the spot market at the time of making those decisions. And today you're gonna price it in the mid 40s. That's a very significant value capture.

Our supply discipline strategy with an investment in the future value of our assets on a topline basis.

The 140 515 million pounds that we've left in the ground since we started our extreme supply discipline, you would have priced it at what $18 a pound in the spot market at the time of making those decisions and today youre going to price it in the mid 40 <unk>.

Very significant value capture so ours has been a very smart investment to leave those pounds in the ground and wait for a window, where theyre going to be priced higher. So that's kind of how we think about the care and maintenance costs.

Speaker 5: So ours has been a very smart investment to leave those pounds in the ground and wait for a window where they're gonna be priced higher. So that's kind of how we think about the care and maintenance costs.

Speaker 5: as an investment on the future value of our production. But in terms of pricing it, we have a market-related preference as opposed to a fixed price preference at the moment. So we could engage customers on the basis of, well here's where the fixed price would need to be in order to cover those sunk costs.

As an investment on the future value of our production, but in terms of pricing yet.

We are a market related preference as opposed to a fixed price preference at the moment. So we could engage customers on the basis of well, here's where the fixed price would need to be in order to cover those sunk cost.

Speaker 5: But I would say we're probably a little greedier than that. We look at a market that needs a lot of new production to come. That new production needs a higher price signal. It needs a price signal that's going to support Greenfield investment.

But I would just say, we're probably a little greedier than that we look at a market that needs a lot of new production to come that new production needs a higher price signal it needs a price signal that's going to support Greenfield investment.

Speaker 5: We would actually love to achieve a lot more green field investment pricing for brown field tier one assets because we love the margin prospect there. So let's about kind of covering our costs and more about maintaining exposure to a market that we think prices need to rise to pay for the productive capacity that needs to be there and we're happy to take those prices for proven permitted assets. And that's kind of the way we look at the first part of the question.

We would actually love to achieve.

A lot more greenfield investment pricing for brownfield tier one assets, because we love the margin prospect there. So so less about kind of covering our costs and more about maintaining exposure to a market that we think prices need to rise to pay for the productive capacity that needs to be there and we're happy to.

Those prices for proven permitted assets and that's kind of the way we look at the first part of the question.

Speaker 5: In terms of the Tier 2, obviously we think about, you know, there's a super bowl coming up and the team that wins has got to have both a good offense and a good defense. And we think about those Tier 2 assets in a very similar way. They're optionality. We've seen in the past during security of supply contracting cycles. Remember Brian , rabbit legs been down before.

In terms of the tier two obviously, we think about.

There is a super bowl coming up and the team that wins has got to have both a good offense and a good defense and we think about those tier two assets in a very similar way their optionality, we've seen in the past during security of supply contracting cycles remember, Brian Rabbit lake's been down before.

Speaker 5: And during a contracting cycle, utilities were willing to pay prices that brought rabbit back before taking the chance on green

And during a contracting cycle utilities were willing to pay prices that brought rebate back before taking the chance on greenfield projects.

Speaker 5: that all of the technical, all of the regulatory, all of the capital, all of the operating commissioning risks still were ahead of those projects. During a security of supply contracting cycle, we see utilities actually supporting proven permitted assets first. And so there's optionality there. But also, we've had the opportunity over the years, probably to part with these assets. But if we parted with these assets,

All of the technical all of the regulatory all of the capital all of the operating commissioning risks still we're ahead of those projects during a security of supply contracting cycle.

We see utilities actually supporting proven permitted assets first.

And so there's optionality there, but also we had the opportunity over the years probably to part with these assets, but if we parted with these assets.

Speaker 5: And they were in the hands of somebody who didn't have a value strategy and who just turned them on and Jammed that material into the spot market. Well, that would be the wrong move too So so they factor in to kind of that overall investment that we're making in the future value of the portfolio So there's offensive op-op optionality. There's defensive protection when we think about those assets

And they were in the hands of somebody who didn't have a value strategy and who just turn them on and jam that material into the spot market well that would be the wrong move too. So they factor into kind of that overall investment that we're making in the future value of the portfolio. So there's offensive.

Optionality there is defensive protection when we think about those assets.

Okay.

Speaker 10: Great thanks. Maybe I could just go to another comment that was made talking about

Great. Thanks, So maybe if I can just go to another comment that was made talking about and we've certainly seen secondary supply come down, but but looking forward I think it was said we expect that maybe to go lower and I'm kind of curious maybe I misheard that.

Speaker 10: And we've certainly seen secondary plight come down. But looking forward, I think we said we expect that maybe to go lower and I'm kind of curious, maybe I'm as heard that.

Speaker 10: Obviously, price goes up, there's changing and underfeeding and stuff too, but you also have this opportunity to

Obviously as price goes up there's changing under feeding and stuffs to but you also have this opportunity to.

Speaker 10: you know, possibly process some pounds through the US feel you have tails.

Possibly processed in pounds through sort of the U S steel you have tails and stuff.

Speaker 10: You know, are you including that material going forward in that statement that secondary?

Are you, including that material going forward in that statement that secondary.

Speaker 10: Is going down or do you think Mox is going down or any comments on how you sort of see the secondary going the next few years in the context of the said your opportunities with secondary.

Is going down or do you think boxes going down or or any comments on how you sort of see the secondary going into next three years in the context as I said your opportunities with secondary.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to jump in on this one and apologies to everybody on the call for not polising all the time on on...

I'm going to jump in on this one and apologies to everybody on the call for monopolizing all the Taiwan.

Speaker 5: on these issues, but with secondary supplies, this is a great part of the story because remember the price transition that occurred, go back to the

On these issues, but with secondary supplies. This is a great part of the story because remember the price transition that occurred go back to the cigar Lake inflow events as a supply shock or even the the demand shock of 2010 that I already talked about the Chinese stepping into the term market for the first time.

Speaker 5: to garlic inflow events as a supply shock or even the demand shock of 2010 that I already talked about the Chinese stepping into the term market for the first time. Those price transitions occurred when there was a heck of a lot of secondary supply still kicking around and a heck of a lot of invent.

Those price transitions occurred when there was a heck of a lot of secondary supply still kicking around in a heck of a lot of inventory.

Speaker 5: But we actually don't have that profile anymore, that H.E.U. material is all gone. Some of those big sources of inventory have been chewed through and that makes sense because...

But we actually don't have that profile anymore that HEU material has all gone some of those big sources of inventory has been chewed through.

That makes sense, because we've been consuming a lot of material off of existing contracts end up going back in and replacement rate. So while secondary supplies have always historically filled the gap the prospect of them playing that role going forward is greatly diminished. If you just look at the supply stack and whether it's and you named a few.

Speaker 5: We've been consuming a lot of material off of existing contracts and not going back in in replacement rates.

Speaker 5: So while secondary supplies have always historically filled the gap, the prospect of them playing that role going forward is greatly diminished. If you just look at the supply stack and whether it's and you name it a few.

Speaker 5: whether it's the inventory that we see from governments, that's that remember the famous DOE inventory. I mean, there's a moratorium on that right now. And besides, if they were still trying to sell materials, there just isn't much left anymore. It wouldn't even be material in today's structural gap between demand.

Whether it's the inventories that we see from governments that remember the famous Doa inventory I mean, there is a moratorium on that right now and besides if they were still trying to sell material. There just isn't much left anymore. It wouldn't even be material in today's structural gap between demand and primary.

Speaker 5: and primary production the the western in richer underfeeding you've heard me say for some time now this isn't an underfeed story anymore yet yes in richers underfeed and they use some of that underfeed uranium uh... to sell into turn contract supportive of their enrichment contracts but we don't see in richer underfeed in the spot market uh... you know it's not a factor there it's not a source for it processing material we just see that decline

Production in the Western and Richard under feeding you've heard me say for some time now this isn't in Underfeed story anymore, yes, yes in Richard's under feed and they use some of that Underfeed uranium.

To sell into a term contract supportive of their enrichment contracts, but we don't see in Richard under fee in the spot market.

It's not a factor there it is not a source for the reprocessing material, we just see that declining over the next 10 years.

Speaker 5: over the next ten years. You know, we're just chewing through that material. And then of course that big black box of the material that comes out of Russia, whether...

<unk> through that material and then of course that big Black box of the material that comes out of Russia, whether whether its tails re enrichment under feeding government stockpiles no matter. What it is just that entire supply just declines over the same window. So you've got you've got the secondary supplies that are.

Speaker 5: Whether it's Cale's Reenrichment Underfeeding Government Stock Piles...

Speaker 5: No matter what it is, just that entire supply just declines over the same window. So you've got the secondary supplies that have always filled the gap in the market.

Always filled the gap in the market can't fill the gap in the market the way they have before and so when we look at that.

Speaker 5: can't fill the gap in the market the way they have before. And so when we look at the DOE reenrichment of the US6, we think of that more as not secondary supply, but actually, that's a US mine is in fact what it is. And that's probably the best model to think about it.

The Doe.

Re enrichment at the U F. Six we think of that more as not secondary supply, but actually that's a U S. Mine is in fact, what it is and Thats, probably the best model to think about it.

Okay.

Speaker 10: And do you assume that you're going to be able to do that in the next five to ten years?

And do you assume that you're going to be able to do that in the next five to 10 years.

Speaker 5: We think that is a great project. It's a project that still has some technology readiness issues in front of it than that need to be worked on.

We think that is a great project. It's a project that still has some technology readiness issues in front of it then that need to be worked on but as a source of supply as a source as potentially U S origin supply.

Speaker 5: But as a source of supply, as a source of potentially US origin supply, it is very attractive and features well into some of the things I talked about earlier like

It is very attractive and features well into some of the things I talked about earlier like the.

Speaker 5: the regionalization of supply and geopolitical concerns. So, you know, we are supportive of that project. It has a ways to go. It's not at the front of the line ahead of MacArthur and Sagar, obviously, but it is a good project.

The regionalization of supply and geopolitical concerns. So we are supportive of that project. It has a ways to go.

Not at the front of the line ahead of Mcarthur cigar, obviously, but it is a good project.

Speaker 10: Great, thanks very much for all the details. I appreciate it. I'll pass it on to someone else. Sounds good, Brian . Thanks a lot.

Great. Thanks, very much for all the details I appreciate it I'll pass it onto someone else sounds good Brian Thanks, a lot.

The next question is from Gordon Johnson from G. L. J research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Gordon Johnson from GLJ Research. Let's go ahead.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker 6: So I guess first of all, from the presentation, it seems like the net addition of capacity is relatively small. When you also factor in the reduction of cigar lake.

So I guess first of all from.

From the presentation. It seems like the net addition of capacity is relatively small when.

When you also factor in.

The reduction of cigar Lake So I just wanted to.

Speaker 6: So I just wanted to get your comments there. And then additionally, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like all the additional capacity you're adding is currently accounted for.

To get your comments there and then Additionally, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like all the additional capacity you're adding is currently accounted for meaning none of this additional capacity is going into the spot market. So if you could address those two and then I have a few follow ups.

Speaker 6: Meaning another this additional capacity is going into the spot market. So if you could address those two and then I have a few follow up.

Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. When we bring MacArthur back on, we're bringing it back on, we hope to be in 2024, about 15 million pounds. And you'll recall five or six years ago, when we were running it, I mean, it has licensed capacity to 25. We ran it at 20 for a while and then backed it off to 18.

Gordon, Yes your reps.

Totally right when we bring.

Mcarthur back on we were bringing it back on we hope to be in 2020 forward about 15 million pounds and Youll recall, five or six years ago, when we were running it.

It is licensed capacity 25, we ran into 'twenty for a while and then backed it off to 18 in 2000.

Speaker 3: in 2016 and then we shut it down in 2017.

2016.

<unk> and then we shut it down in 2017 so.

Speaker 3: So in conjunction with that, when MacArthur gets up and running, and that's a couple of years to get it going, we plan to bring cigar down from its 18 million pound capacity, as the ground mentioned, to 13.5 a significant reduction.

In conjunction with that.

Macarthur gets up and running and that's a couple of years to get it going we plan to bring cigar down from its 18 million pound.

Capacity as grant mentioned to $13 five a significant reduction.

Speaker 3: that fits with our strategy of supply discipline.

That fits with our strategy of supply discipline going forward and the added benefit for cigar Lake is that it gives us a little extra time, when we're producing 13 five instead of 18 to look at the future of cigar Lake and extra resources and reserves that we can bring into the picture to keep that.

Speaker 3: going forward and the added benefit for cigar lake is that it gives us a little extra time when we're producing 13, 5 instead of 18 to look at the future of cigar lake and extra resources and reserves that we can

Speaker 3: Bring into the picture to keep that unit running into the 2030. So yes, we will continue, as Grant has said, with our supply discipline. Every day we look at our sales and our production and we try to be consistent. We actually underproduce for the sales we have, which makes us go out and buy in the market. So.

The unit running into the 2000 <unk>. So yes, we will continue as grand as soon with our supply discipline.

Every day, we look at our look at our sales and our production and we try to be consistent.

Underproduce, where the sales, we have which makes us quote and buy in the market. So I can tell you we have a home for every pound, we produce and we're going to keep it that way.

Speaker 3: I can tell you we have a home for every pound we produce and we're going to keep it that way.

Okay.

Okay. That's helpful.

Speaker 6: That's helpful. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like so your contracted volumes, it seems like in twig.

Correct me, if I'm wrong, but it seems like so your contracted volumes. It seems like in 2021, 38% of your contracted volumes. Since 2016 were signed in 2021 alone. So this seems like and again correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like the catalyst that my team has been waiting for for a while I know this question was touched on before.

Speaker 6: 38% of your contracted volume since 2016 were signed in 2021 alone. So this seems like it again correct me if I'm wrong This seems like a catalyst. So we've my team has been waiting for for a while I know this question was touched on before but in previous contracting cycles It's typically not just one year of contract

Sure.

In previous contracting cycles.

It's typically not just one year of contracting.

Speaker 6: So when you consider, it's belonging to the question, but when you consider that Europe is labeled nuclear and natural gas to say double investments, then the comments from the energy secretary in the US, do you guys expect additional contracts in 2022? And can you also address if maybe some of these Chinese nuclear facilities are starting to re-contract?

So when you consider it as long as your question, but when you consider the Europe just labeled nuclear.

And natural gas sustainable investment then you know the comments from the energy Secretary in the U S. Do you guys expect additional contracts.

In 2022 and can you also address if maybe some of these Chinese.

Nuclear facilities are starting to re contract.

Well, let me start and then grants covered the marketing piece and so I'll turn it back to him, but we're certainly seeing good signs on some of the areas you mentioned I mean, the U S. If you look at 2021 that was really a pivotal year for nuclear and for the U S with the.

Speaker 3: Well I'll be starting and then grants cover the marketing piece and so I'll turn it back to him but we're certainly seeing good finds on some of the areas you mentioned. I mean the US if you look at 2021 that was really a pivotal year for nuclear and for the US with it.

Speaker 3: The change in administration and whatever you have to say about them, the first move they made was to sign back onto the Paris Agreement and then hold an Earth Summit and sign the Infrastructure Act. They're working on the build back better.

The change in administration, whatever you have to say about them. The first move they made was to sign back onto the Paris agreement and then hold an Earth summit and sign the infrastructure out there working on the build back better.

Speaker 3: Act and there's a lot of support for New Clear. Like, support that we haven't seen for decades.

And there's a lot of support for nuclear like support that we haven't seen before.

Decades in the U S and being a world leader. That's that's good news here in Canada, we're seeing support.

Speaker 3: in the US and being a world leader, that's good news. Here in Canada, we're seeing support. You've got Bruce with their major component replacement. You've got OPG, the same thing. OPG picking a spot for...

Bruce with their major component replacement Uyghur LPG, the same thing <unk> picking our spot for for <unk> Darlington I mean, good news you mentioned Europe I mean, we've been fighting that fight through the W. In AE and through for Adam on the taxonomy of nuclear trying to have nuclear included in the <unk>.

Speaker 3: For an SMR at Darlington, I mean, good news. You mentioned Europe . I mean, we've been fighting that fight through the WNA and through 4-atom on the taxonomy of nuclear, trying to have nuclear included in the green taxonomy. And guess what? First day of this year, we found out it was going to be included. So lots of good...

Green taxonomy and guess what first day of this year, we found that it was going to be includes so lots of good tailwind right now for nuclear so that I mean that just bolsters and reinforces the comments we made at the start of this meeting on the demand side, we see demand growing and we don't just fee.

Speaker 3: Tailwinds right now for nuclear. So that I mean that just bolsters and reinforces

Speaker 3: The comments we made at the start of this meeting on the demand side, we see demand growing and we don't just feel it, we can see it, we can see the numbers that...

We can see if we can see the numbers that WMA in IEA in IEP put out.

Speaker 3: It was the towers ...

Speaker 3: showing growth in nuclear demand, which is good news for our business. And so, Chinese, you mentioned China, I mean, that is a great story. They have 50 reactors today, they're going to 70. So, if you can even imagine that 20 new reactors in five years.

Showing a growth in nuclear demand, which is good news for our business and so.

Chinese you mentioned, China, I mean that is a great story.

They have 50 reactors today theyre going to 70. So if you can even imagine that 20, new reactors in five years 70 by 2025, and we've seen from some of their organizations with well over 100 by 2030.

Speaker 3: 70 by 2025 and we've seen from some of their organizations at low over 100 by 2030. And then you start asking where's the supply coming from at a time when supply is going down. So remember we started 2021 with Common Act going down and Ranger going down.

And then you start asking where is the supply coming from at a time when supply is going down remember, we started 2021 with common at going down in range or going down and so the supply demand fundamentals are really setting up nice for the industry and then of course during there you had some.

Speaker 3: And so, yeah, the squad of men, the fundamentals are really setting up nice for the industry and then of course during their years.

Speaker 3: and other juniors come in and buy significant quantity of uranium and put it away. And so, yeah, I think the market's setting up very nicely. And we, it's in this context that we expect to add to our portfolio going forward.

Spud and other juniors come in and buy a significant quantity of uranium and put it put it away and so I think the market is setting up very nicely.

We it's in this context that we expect to add to our portfolio going forward.

Speaker 6: Okay, and actually one last word if I could, can you guys talk about the impact to, I guess, the fundamentals? Clearly these contracts are being signed at much higher price.

Okay and actually one last one if I could can you guys talk about the impact to I guess the fundamentals.

Clearly these contracts are being signed at much higher prices can you go into at all like how we should think about the effects on <unk>.

Speaker 6: Can you go into it all like how we should think about the effects on margins and cash flow? And also, I guess, is there any other, or not, is there any potential headwinds you see out there? Things like this is quite the positive call. Do you see any negatives out there that could trip you up? Thanks for the question.

Margins and cash flow.

And also I.

I guess.

Is there any other.

Is there any potential headwinds you see out there. It seems like this is quite a positive call do you see any negatives out there that could trip you up thanks for the questions.

Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Gordon. I just say I don't think that turned to grant on the finance, but this is undeniably positive for chemical financially, both the earnings and cash flow going forward. So after some tough years in the truck that our shareholds have stuck with us, we are hoping to reward our loyal sharehold is going forward.

Yes, Thanks, Gordon, Doug just saying I'll turn to grant on the plants, but this is undeniably positive.

Chemical financially both earnings and cash flow going forward. So.

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Some tough years in the drop that our shareholders have stuck with us.

We were hoping to reward our loyal shareholders going forward. So we keep using the term Gordon balanced and disciplined and we apply it to balanced contracting discipline balanced supply discipline and balanced financial discipline and so.

Speaker 5: We keep using the term, the term, balanced and disciplined, and we apply it to balanced contracting discipline, balanced supply discipline, and balanced financial discipline.

Speaker 5: you know, in keeping with that notion, the decisions to bring in some contracts really underpins that book of business going forward, the 160 million pound that we have in front of us, that that supports our planned production, which by the way, the main message there is supply discipline is continuing indefinitely, not productions all back on, no matter what, we're still looking for further market improvements.

In keeping with that notion.

The decisions to.

Bring in some contracts really underpins that book of business going forward. The 160 million pounds that we have in front of us that supports our planned production, which by the way the main message there is supply.

<unk> is continuing indefinitely not productions all back on no matter, what we're still looking for further market improvement.

Speaker 5: And then the balanced financial discipline. Yes, we're announcing today that that our owners need to share in the improved business outlook and the improved book of business.

And then the balanced financial discipline, yes, we're announcing today that our owners need to share in the improved business outlook and the improved book of business, but we're still managing in a conservative way from a financial point of view, because we still have to support strategic patients in our call.

Speaker 5: but we're still managing in a conservative way from a financial point of view, because we still have to support strategic patients in our contracting discipline as we wait for that demand to come and those improvements to come. And we still have to support continued supply discipline. We're not gonna run MacArthur at capacity. We're not planning to run cigar at capacity.

Tracking discipline as we wait for that demand to come in those improvements to come and we still have to support continued supply discipline, we're not going to run Macarthur at capacity, we're not we're not planning to run cigar at capacity out into the future. So so again that balance is across all three dimensions.

Speaker 5: out into the future. So again, that balance is across all three dimensions.

Speaker 5: of our strategy, but unequivocally supportive. Remember our investment in our strategy financially had two big impacts. One was the care maintenance costs of keeping pounds in the ground. And I've already referenced those pounds are worth a lot more than they were the day we made that decision. The second was purchasing material at a much higher cost than we could produce it for.

Of our strategy, but unequivocally supportive.

Remember our investment in our strategy financially.

Had two big impacts one was the care and maintenance costs.

<unk> pounds in the ground and I've already referenced those pounds are worth a lot more than they were the day, we made that decision.

Second was purchasing material at a at a much higher cost.

We could produce it for so as we build homes and as we restore production even if it's not at full capacity.

Speaker 5: So as we build homes and as we restore production, even if it's not at full capacity.

Speaker 5: We're anticipating significant improvements to cash low and earnings. So unequivocally supportive for us, and we're going to do it in a responsible way, a disciplined way that is supportive of the market. We're going to do it.

We are anticipating significant improvements to.

To cash flow and earnings so unequivocally supportive for us and we're going to do it in a responsible way a disciplined way that is supportive of the market.

Okay.

Thanks again, guys. Thanks Gordon.

Speaker 1: The next question is from Patrick Sojiki, or Private Investor. Please go ahead.

The next question is from Patrick So Jackie a private investor. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8: Hi, thanks for taking my call. So I have two questions. The first one is, I asked this in late 2020. You guys said you would release an updated to our late technical report in 2021. I think you never did. So I'm wondering if there's reason for the delay. And kind of tying it into the other analyst question about the cash cost.

Oh, hi, Thanks for taking my call so.

I have two questions. The first one is.

I ask this in late 2020, you guys said you would release.

David Cigar Lake Technical report in 2021.

So I'm wondering if there's a reason for the delay.

And kind of tying it into the other analysts question about.

The cash cost.

Speaker 8: in 2024, like with a lot of other commodity companies having a cost overrun, how do you expect those to stay the same? Are you basically saying whatever automation you've done is gonna negate any increases? So that's my first question.

In 2024.

A lot of other commodity companies, having a cost overruns.

How do you expect those to stay.

The same.

Are you basically saying whatever automation is done as good of an increase.

The increases so that's that's my first question.

That's a tough one.

Speaker 3: Patrick, thank you for the questions. I'm going to answer the second one. And I see Brian Riley is here. I just get him to update on the Scarlett Technical Report. Just, you talked about costs in 2024. Obviously, we're...

Patrick Thank you for the questions I'm going to answer the second one and let's see but Brian Riley.

Just get him to update on the cigar Lake Technical report.

You're talking about cost in 2024, obviously were.

Speaker 3: Looking at costs we're concerned about costs like everyone else is you know you're seeing inflation you're seeing supply chain issues across the board This isn't just accountable. I think it's really good

Looking at costs were concerned about cost like everyone else is are you seeing inflation youre seeing supply chain issues across the board and this isn't just count.

Speaker 3: It's in every industry, everywhere. Labor, availability of labor, all things. We're watching. We think we have a competitive advantage in Northern Saskatchewan in that 50% plus, and we're going to make it as plus as we can. Our employees are indigenous people from the region that live up there. We're delighted to be bringing them back.

It's in every industry everywhere labor availability of labor all things. We're watching we think we have a competitive advantage in northern Saskatchewan in that 50% plus and we're going to make it as pluses. We can of our employees are our indigenous people from the region that live up there we are.

Delighted to be bringing them back or.

Speaker 3: Our digitization and automation efforts we think will bring us benefits cost benefits

Our digitization and automation efforts, we think will bring us benefits cost benefits reducing.

Speaker 3: reducing the costs of our operations, making them more flexible.

Reducing the cost of our operations, making them more flexible.

Speaker 3: And so we're pretty excited about that. So, you know, we, I was in a meeting the other day, Business Council of Canada, and they were talking about capital projects, new capital projects on Brownfield, and they said, if you've got a feasibility study, that's more than six months old, you might as well throw it in the garbage, because things have changed back fast. And so, you know, we're fortunate to be on Greenfield here with experienced workforce, and you know, we're not...

So we're pretty pretty excited about so.

I was in a meeting.

The other day business Council of Canada, and they were talking about capital projects, New capital projects on brownfield and they said if you go to feasibility study that's more than six months old to muscle through it in the garbage because things have changed that fast and so we're fortunate to be on greenfield here with the experienced workforce.

Speaker 3: We've got an existing team that we're going to add to and so we're quite excited about the future there. But let me ask Brian to just give an update on the where Scarlett Tech reports at. Sure, good question. The Scarlett Tech report.

We're not we've got our existing team that we're going to add to and so we're quite excited about the future there, but let me talk let me ask Brian to just give an update on the Scarlet reports sure. Good question.

Currently technical report dates back to 2016, and really nothing has changed in terms of the technical.

Speaker 3: States back to 2016 and really nothing has changed.

Speaker 3: in terms of the technical parameters, the mining methods.

Parameters the mining methods the financial analysis, so it might be six years old, but it is still valid and.

Speaker 3: financial analysis. So it might be six years old, but it's still valid. And, you know, quite frankly, it has the shelf life, we believe, a few more years yet. So no plans today or even in the immediate future to update that report, it's valid, it was valid then and it remains valid today.

Quite frankly, it has a shelf life, we believe a few more years, yet so no no plans today.

Today or even in the immediate future to to update that report it's valid with valid then and it remains valid today.

Speaker 2: Patrick, I might just add in the AIS annually, we do update sort of that cost profile. So you see that annually and that comes out in. Okay.

Patrick I might just add in the Aif annually, we do update sort of that cost profile. So you see that annually and that comes out in okay.

Speaker 8: Yeah, I was more interested in like the, there was some something like 60,000 meters to outline the resources and face to better, but I guess you said you're kind of putting that on the back burner anyway.

Yeah, I was more interested in like the there was some something like 60000 meters to outline the resources in place to better, but I guess, you said, you're kind of putting that on the backburner anyways.

Speaker 8: So thank you for that. The second question maybe Tim, you could speak a little bit from your experience at nutrient as well as sort of taking some cues from energy.

So thank you for that.

Second question.

Maybe maybe Tim you could go a little bit from your experience.

Nutrients as well as sort of taking cues from energy.

Speaker 8: oil stock with this bill record-level cash and I get you guys are financially conservative but would you say possibly that this

Oil stocks with with this record level of cash and I guess you guys are financially conservative, but would you say a pause.

Possibly that this.

Speaker 8: I guess token dividend increase sort of marks, maybe sustained dividend growth strategy, would you say you could commit to something like that at this point or not yet?

I guess the token dividend.

Increased sort of marks maybe a sustained.

Dividend growth strategy would you say you could commit to something like that at this point or not yet.

Speaker 3: Well thanks for that Patrick. I haven't yet had experience with nutrient I do sit on the mosaic board however so they'd be happy for me to make that correction I'm sure but listen yeah around the block obviously you know we're sitting on a little over I look at granite it's 1.33 billion cash and in short terms now

Well, thanks for that Patrick I haven't yet had experienced with nutrient.

Do sit on the Mosaiq board. However, so that we'd be happy to for me to make that correction I'm sure but.

Listed around the block obviously, we're sitting on.

A little over I look at <unk>, I think it's $1 3 billion cash and short terms now that we've got to thank goodness nobody asked us about the CRA because my blood pressure just feeling pretty good when you do that but that's still out there.

Speaker 3: that we've got thank goodness nobody else is about the CRA because my blood pressure gets going pretty good when you do that but that's still out there you know we're looking at recovering I think it's 295 million of cash from them and about 482 million in credit or balance sheet space.

We're looking at recovering I think it's $295 million of cash from them in about $482 million in credits or balance sheet space.

Speaker 3: And with our new strategy or our continuing discipline strategy, we're going to be adding both durings and cashflow. So the question is a good one. The capital allocation, I can tell you our board, it spends a lot of time thinking about this.

And with our new strategy are continuing a disciplined strategy, we're going to be adding both the earnings and cash flow. So you're right. The question is a good one the capital allocation I can tell you our board.

He has spent a lot of time thinking about this.

Speaker 3: Grant and his team my obviously responsible for it so

Grant and his team are obviously responsible for it so the decision taken this quarter was the increased 50% increase to the dividend clearly sustainable for us and.

Speaker 3: The decision taken this quarter was the increase 50% increase to the dividends clearly sustainable for us and and no new decisions from there we'll see we're off on a new path now we've got a lot of work to do

No new decisions from there we will see we're off on a new path now we've got a lot of work to do up in northern Saskatchewan, not easy of bringing those facilities back on but we're confident we can do it if the future unfurls. The way we think it will we will have.

Speaker 3: Up in northern Saskatchewan, not easy, bringing those facilities back on, but we're confident we can do it.

Speaker 3: If the future unfurls the way we think it will, we will have...

Speaker 3: Significant capital allocation decisions to make going forward and it will certainly keep you and the market informed as we progress

Significant capital allocation decisions to make going forward and it will certainly keep you in the market informed as we progress.

Great. Thank you, yes, thanks Patrick.

Speaker 1: This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Tim Getzel for any closing remarks.

This.

Steve a question answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to Tim get snow for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3: Okay, well thank you all for being here. With that, I just want to say thank you to everybody who has joined us on the call today. We certainly as always appreciate your interest and support. Let me just conclude by saying we are excited about the future that we're seeing for nuclear power generation. We're excited about the fundamentals for uranium supply and demand. And we're excited about the prospects for our company as we embark on the next phase of our market-aligned strategy.

Okay, well, thank you operator and with that I just wanted to say thank you to everybody who has joined US on the call today, we certainly as always appreciate your interest and support let me just conclude by saying we are excited about the future that we're seeing for nuclear power generation. We're excited about the fundamentals for uranium supply and demand and we're excited about the prospects for our company.

<unk> as we embark on the next phase of our market alone strategy.

Speaker 3: We say this every time and we won't stop. We're a responsible commercial supplier with a strong balance sheet, long lift tier one assets, and a proven operating track record in line of sight to return on our tier one cost structure.

We say this every time and we won't stop we're responsible commercial supplier with a strong balance sheet long lived tier one assets and a proven operating track record and line of sight to return on our tier one cost structure.

Speaker 3: Camico, we are well positioned to respond to the changing market dynamics and benefit from the long-term growth we see coming driven by the need around the world for safe, reliable, affordable and carbon-free, based low electricity.

Cameco, we are well positioned to respond to the changing market dynamics and benefit from the long term growth, we see coming driven by the need around the world for safe reliable affordable and carbon free base load electricity.

Speaker 3: We will continue to do what we say we will do, executing on our strategy and consistent with our values. We will do so in a manner that we believe will make our business sustainable over the long term. And we will continue always to make the health and safety of our workers, their families and their communities our priority. So with that, thanks everybody. Stay safe and healthy and have a wonderful day. Thank you.

We will continue to do what we say, we will do executing on our strategy and consistent with our values. We will do so in a manner that we believe will make our business sustainable over the long term.

And we will continue always to make the health and safety of our workers their families and their communities our priority. So with that thanks, everybody stay safe and healthy and have a wonderful day. Thank you.

Speaker 1: This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

This concludes today's conference call you may disconnect. Your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

Okay.

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