Q4 2021 IAA Inc Earnings Call

Speaker 1: for the year ended December 27, 2020, followed the SEC on February 22, 2021, and in the Form 10K for the year ended January 2, 2022, which we expect to file on or near February 25, 2022.

727, 2020 filed with the SEC on February 22021.

And in the Form 10-K for the year ended January <unk>, 2022, which we expect to file on or near February 25, 2022.

Speaker 1: The forward-looking statements made today are as of the date of this call and IAEA does not undertake any obligation to update these forward-looking statements.

The forward looking statements made today are as of the date of this call and IAA does not undertake any obligation to update these forward looking statements.

Speaker 1: Finally, the speakers will refer to certain adjusted or non-GAAP financial measures on this call. A reconciliation schedule of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in IAA's press release issued today. A copy of today's press release may be obtained by visiting the investor relations page of the website at www.iaai.com. I'll now turn the call over to the speakers.

Finally, the speakers will refer to certain adjusted or non-GAAP financial measures on this call.

A reconciliation schedule of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in Iaa's press release issued today.

A copy of today's press release may be obtained by visiting the Investor Relations page of the website at Www Dot Dot com.

I will now turn the call over to John John .

Speaker 2: Thank you, Arif. Good morning, everyone. And thank you all for joining us for our fourth quarter and year-end earnings call.

Thank you.

Good morning, everyone and thank you all for joining us for our fourth quarter and year end earnings call.

Speaker 2: Today I'm gonna talk about some highlights from our fourth quarter and full year performance. I'll then provide an update on our key strategic initiatives including our strong buyer-based growth, our product advancements for both our buyer and seller customers, and our expansion in the UK market. I'll then make some comments on our outlook for 2022 before I turn the call over to Susan Healy, who will review our financial performance and outlook in more detail.

Today I'm going to talk about are some highlights from our fourth quarter and full year performance. I will then provide an update on our key strategic initiatives, including our strong borrower base growth.

Our product advancements for both our buyer and seller customers and our expansion in the U K market.

Although <unk> made some comments on our outlook for 2022 before I turn the call over to Susan Healy, who will review, our financial performance and outlook in more detail.

Speaker 2: We ended 2021 with a solid fourth quarter performance in line with our guidance, which did include the impact from hurricane item. Underlying our full year performance was the further strengthening of our digital marketplace and the impacts of the macro economic environment. Both of which contributed to strong revenue per unit trends.

We ended 2021 with a solid fourth quarter performance in line with our guidance.

Which did include the impact from Hurricane item.

Underlying our full year performance was the further strengthening of our digital marketplace and the impacts of the macroeconomic environment, both of which contributed to strong revenue per unit trends.

Speaker 2: For the quarter, we delivered growth in revenue and adjusted EBITDA of approximately 33% and 19% respectively.

For the quarter, we delivered growth in revenue and adjusted EBITDA of approximately 33% and 19% respectively.

Speaker 2: And this performance helped us deliver full year organic revenue growth of 29% and organic adjusted EBITDA growth of 36%. So let's talk about the............

And this performance helped us deliver full year organic revenue growth of 29% and organic adjusted EBITDA growth of 36%.

So let's talk about the supply side of our marketplace.

Speaker 2: We are pleased with how we delivered for our customers in 2021, particularly late in the year with our response to Hurricane Ida.

We are pleased with how we delivered for our customers in 2021, particularly late in the year with our response to hurricane either the strong execution of our cast strategy resulted in exceptionally fast pickup and strong sell through of vehicles, which was recognized and appreciated by our customers.

Speaker 2: The strong execution of our CAT strategy resulted in an exceptionally fast pick up and strong sell through of vehicles, which was recognized and appreciated by our customers. In fact, throughout 2021, we continue to make strong progress on the supply side customer base. We gained new customers and successfully renewed and expanded agreements with several key accounts.

In fact throughout 2021, we continue to make strong progress on the supply side customer base, we gain new customers and successfully renewed and expanded agreements with several key accounts.

Speaker 2: The success included national insurance companies in the top ten and several regional and smaller carriers.

The success included National insurance companies in the top 10, and several regional and smaller carriers.

Speaker 2: However, there is one large customer who, as we have discussed in the past, has been shifting volume to a competitor.

However, there is one large customer who as we have discussed in the past has been shifting volume to a competitor.

Speaker 2: There is an additional shift that we expect to begin later in the first quarter and be completed in the first half of 2022. This shift will reduce our volume by approximately 2%.

There is an additional shifts that we expect to begin later in the first quarter and be completed in the first half of 2022.

This shift will reduce our volumes by approximately 2% and after this this customer will now represent less than 5% of our volume.

Speaker 2: And after this, this customer will now represent less than 5% of our volume. We believe this situation is unique and does not reflect the strong progress that we have made enhancing our offerings and service levels for both our buyers and sellers as evidenced by the successes that I just talked about.

We believe this situation is unique and does not reflect the strong progress that we have made enhancing our offerings and service levels for both our buyers and sellers as evidenced by the successes that I just talked about and.

Speaker 2: And to put this into some perspective, outside of this customer, we had near double-digit volume growth in 2021.

And to put this in some perspective.

Outside of this customer we had near double digit volume growth in 2021.

Speaker 2: We also continue to succeed in the non-insurance segment with dealer, fleet, rental, and other sources of vehicle volume. We grew this segment of our business in 2021, both in terms of volume sold and customer base, and we see the opportunity to further expand.

We also continue to succeed in the non insurance segment with dealer fleet rental and other sources of vehicle volume. We grew this segment of our business in 2021, both in terms of volumes sold and customer base and we see the opportunity to further expand.

Speaker 2: Buyers and sellers of this segment have unique needs in comparison to the insurance market and our digital marketplace provides both the strongest auction liquidity for these assets due to our global buyer base and our market-leading user interface. We have actively developed innovative solutions that address the unique needs of this segment, which benefit the entire marketplace, including insurance vehicle buyers and sellers.

Buyers and sellers of this segment have unique needs in comparison to the insurance market and our digital marketplace provides both the strongest auction liquidity for these assets due to our global buyer base and our market leading user interface.

We are actively developed innovative solutions that address the unique needs of this segment, which benefits the entire marketplace, including insurance vehicle buyers and sellers.

Speaker 2: Altogether, this non-insurance dealer fleet rental supplier has generated approximately one quarter of our total volume in 2021 and has also grown by 25% since the time of our spin in 2019.

Altogether this non insurance dealer fleet rental suppliers generated approximately one quarter of our total volume in 2021.

And has also grown by 25% since the time of our spin in 2019.

Speaker 2: Another critical part of our commitment to our clients is our continued capacity expansion across all of our markets, the U.S., Canada, and the U.K.

Another critical part of our commitment to our clients is our continued capacity expansion across all of our markets. The U S, Canada and the UK.

Speaker 2: We added strategically to our U.S. real estate footprint last year with two new facilities and 14 expansion projects. And this is all in addition to the temporary land that we quickly secured at seven distinct locations in New York, New Jersey, and Louisiana during Hurricane Ida.

We added strategically to our U S real estate footprint last year with two new facilities in 2014 expansion projects.

And this is all in addition to the temporary land that we quickly secured at seven distinct locations in New York, New Jersey, and Louisiana during Hurricane Ida, which enabled us to most effectively serve our providers.

Speaker 2: which enabled us to most effectively serve our providers. Now let me turn to updating you on our progress against our strategic initiatives. In terms of broadening our service offering, I'm really happy to report that we processed approximately $1.7 billion in transaction value through our loan payoff portal for the full year of 21.

Now, let me turn to updating you on our progress against our strategic initiatives.

In terms of broadening our service offering I'm really happy to report that we processed approximately $1 7 billion in transaction value through our loan payoff portal for the full year of 'twenty, one and we expect the momentum to continue into 'twenty two.

Speaker 2: And we expect the momentum to continue into 22.

Speaker 2: We also recently announced our exclusive partnership with FastLine to leverage their LossExpress solution, a platform that connects insurers with the largest active lien holder network in the U.S.

We also recently announced our exclusive partnership with SaaS lines to leverage their loss Express solution.

Platform that connects insurers with the largest active lienholder network in the U S.

Speaker 2: IA is now positioned to be the only company in the industry to reach complete lender coverage for total loss claims.

IAA is now positioned to be the only company in the industry to reach complete lender coverage for total loss claims.

Speaker 2: Integrating with Lost Express, which we expect to be completed this year, will expand coverage to nearly all consumer automotive lenders within the loan payout portal, while maintaining all the benefits of our existing digital products.

Integrating with boss Express, which we expect to be completed this year, we will expand coverage to nearly all consumer automotive lenders within the loan payoff portal, while maintaining all the benefits of our existing digital products.

Speaker 2: We've also made great progress on the buyer side of our platform, underscored by the 21% growth in our international buyer base, including a 7% sequential increase in Q4 loans.

We've also made great progress on the buyer side of our platform underscored by the 21% growth in our international buyer base, including a 7% sequential increase in Q4 alone.

Speaker 2: How do we achieve this? It starts with transportation. Transportation is one of the most important elements of a buyer's experience with us. And so to help buyers, we launched IE Transport. And it realized utilization levels that are beyond our expectations.

How do we achieve this it starts with transportation transportation is one of the most important elements of a buyers' experience with us and so to help buyers, we launched IU transport and have realized utilization levels that are beyond our expectations.

Speaker 2: This transportation option is a significant advancement in our industry. It allows buyers to schedule transport of their vehicles at the time of checkout and payment and streamlines the entire purchasing and delivery process. We've also invested significantly in improving the buyer-customer experience, having launched a customer care values initiative that's focused on our buyer market.

This transportation option is a significant advancement in our industry. It allows buyers to scheduled transporter their vehicles at the time of checkout and payment and streamlines, the entire purchasing and delivery process.

We've also invested significantly in improving the by our customer experience, having launched a customer care values initiative, that's focused on our buyer market.

Speaker 2: We are now more consistently measuring our customer service levels and dynamically working to identify areas of opportunity and make near real-time improvements.

We are now more consistently measuring our customer service levels and dynamically working to identify areas of opportunity and make near real time improvements.

Speaker 2: The results of our efforts are manifested at a 20% improvement in our NPS score in the fourth quarter alone.

The results of our efforts are manifested in a 20% improvement in our NPS score in the fourth quarter alone.

Speaker 2: Another aspect of our international buyer strategy is the expansion of our market alliance partnership network, which now spans 20 countries and 16 partners operating 50 branded locations. In the fourth quarter, we added Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Russia, and those came to us through an expanded market alliance agreement with our partner in Moldova, which we completed early in 2021.

Another aspect of our international buyer strategy is the expansion of our market Alliance partnership network, which now spans 20 countries and 16 part partners operating 50 branded locations.

In the fourth quarter, we added Kazakhstan, Kurdistan in Russia, and those came to us through an expanded market Alliance agreement with our partner in Moldova, which we completed early in 2021.

Speaker 2: The continued growth of our market alliance partnership network and the further expansion of our international buyer network are both enhancing our strong competitive online marketplace, which results in increased revenue per unit through greater bidding activity.

The continued growth of our market Alliance partnership network and a further expansion of our international buyer network are both enhancing our strong competitive online marketplace, which results in increased revenue per unit through greater bidding activity.

Speaker 2: Our next initiative is focused on expanding our margins. We continue to be pleased with the benefits of our margin expansion plans, and overall, we remain on track.

Our next initiative is focused on expanding our margins we continue to be pleased with the benefits of our margin expansion plans and overall, we remain on track.

Speaker 2: Both our buyer digital transformation and pricing optimization are ahead of our original expectations. However, we are experiencing the impact of the current staffing and labor shortage environment, which has been so widely reported by many others.

Both our buyer digital transformation and pricing optimization are ahead of our original expectations. However, we are experiencing the impact of the current staffing and labor shortage environment, which has been so widely reported by many others.

Speaker 2: To address this, we are focused on leveraging our strong and long-standing towing partnerships. We're also bringing in additional resources, leveraging more of our co-op, and piloting new technology to mitigate the impact of labor challenges on towing.

To address this we are focused on leveraging our strong and longstanding tolling partnerships. We're also bringing in additional resources leveraging more our tow app and piloting new technology to mitigate the impact of labor challenges on Tommy.

Speaker 2: Susan will provide a little more detail on this in her remarks, but we continue to believe that the changes in the resource strategies that we are implementing and the long-term opportunities that they present to us.

Susan will provide a little more detail on this in her remarks, but we continue to believe that the changes in the resource strategies that we're implementing and the long term opportunities that they present to us.

Speaker 2: Another area that I'm really excited about is our ongoing focus on innovation and enhancing our use of data analytics.

Another area that I'm really excited about is our ongoing focus on innovation and enhancing our use of data analytics and our customers are increasingly realizing the benefits of the advancements that our teams have been making to improve our offerings and leverage our deep analytic capabilities.

Speaker 2: Our customers are increasingly realizing the benefits of the advancements that our teams have been making to improve our offerings and leverage our deep analytic capabilities.

Speaker 2: Whether it's optimizing the sale channel or more effectively setting reserve prices, our bespoke seller portals provide actionable and transparent data that helps with the key decisions that sellers must make.

Whether it's optimizing our sales channel are more effectively setting reserve prices are bespoke seller portals provide actionable and transparent data that helps with the key decisions that sellers mostly.

Speaker 2: In one example, a provider told us that a sizable portion of their returns growth in 2021 was simply taking advantage of our data analytic capability and modifying their own process.

And one example.

Ample of provider told us that a sizable portion of their returns growth in 2021 was simply taking advantage of our data analytic capability and modifying their own processes.

Speaker 2: We will continue to implement improvements from our innovation and data analytics skills throughout 2022 and beyond.

We will continue to implement improvements from an innovation and data analytics.

Skills throughout 2022 and beyond.

Speaker 2: The final strategic initiative is international expansion. We were excited to announce the acquisition of Synetic earlier last quarter, further expanding our presence in the UK.

The final strategic initiative is international expansion.

We were excited to announce the acquisition of Synetic earlier last quarter further expanding our presence in the U K.

Speaker 2: Signetic brings a really good business and a strong management team and offers diversification through its ability to sell parts as well as auction vehicles.

<unk> brings a really good business and a strong management team and offers diversification through its ability to sell parts as well as auction vehicles.

Speaker 2: This transaction is still undergoing review from the UK Competition Markets Authority or CMA So at this point we're limited what we can say about the company But just yesterday the CMA lifted the initial enforcement order that had prevented us from integrating Synetic into our operation

This transaction is still undergoing review from the UK competition markets authority or CMA.

So at this point, we're limited in what we can say about the company.

But just yesterday the CMA lifted the initial enforcement order that had prevented us from integrating synetic into our operations.

Speaker 2: Based on this positive development, we remain increasingly optimistic that we will obtain full clearance from the CMA. And we continue to be really excited about the long-term prospects of this business being part of IEA.

On this positive development, we remain increasingly optimistic that we will obtain full clearance from the CMA.

And we continue to be really excited about the long term prospects of this business being part of IAA.

Speaker 2: So back to North America, we're also really pleased with our leadership position in Canada and our performance there in 2021. During the year, we renewed and grew volume with several key clients.

So back to North America. We're also really pleased with our leadership position in Canada, and our performance there in 2021.

During the year, we renewed and grew volume with several key clients.

Speaker 2: And on a macro level, you do need to keep in mind that the market is different there. Miles driven is recovering more slowly. But nonetheless, we're really pleased with the results that they delivered for us in 2021 and our prospects for 22.

And on a macro level you do need to keep in mind that as the market is different their miles driven is recovering more slowly but nonetheless, we are really pleased with the results that they delivered for us in 2021, and our prospects for 2002.

Speaker 2: Overall, we continue to leverage innovation, technology, and products among all three of our primary geographic markets. And one more example I'll point to is the Excellence in Technology Award that we've won in the UK for our Interact merchandising platform, which we now have expanded globally over the last 18 months.

Overall, we continue to leverage innovation technology and products among all three of our primary geographic markets and one more example, I'll point to is the excellence in Technology Award that we won in the UK for our interact merchandising platform, which we now have expanded globally over the last 18 months.

Speaker 2: Now let me turn to our guidance that we've issued for 2022, which again Susan will review in more detail in a few minutes.

Now, let me turn to our guidance that we've issued for 2022, which again Susan will review in more detail in a few minutes.

Speaker 2: Embedded in our guidance is our current view of the macro environment, where we continue to see strong used car prices and increasing miles driven.

Embedded in our guidance is our current view of the macro environment, where we continue to see strong used car prices and increasing miles driven.

Speaker 2: Our guidance also includes our current perspective of our projected market share position in each of the segments and countries that we service. Finally, we've also included the impact of the challenges with labor shortages and some of the other initiatives that I've already discussed.

Our guidance also includes our current perspective of our projected market share position in each of the segments and countries that we service.

Finally, we have also included the impacts of the challenges with labor shortages and some of the other initiatives that I've already discussed.

Speaker 2: So before I end, I want to just mention a couple of other really important items.

So before I end I want to just mention a couple of other really important items.

Speaker 2: First, we're really proud of our continued work in sustainability. Our first sustainability report was published in 2020, and our continued work in this area is more critical than ever as we face ever-growing global environmental and climate-related changes.

First we're really proud of our continued work and sustainability.

Our first sustainability report was published in 2020 and our continued work in this area is more critical than ever as we face ever growing global environmental and climate related changes.

Speaker 2: I'm also very happy with our continued focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Im also very happy with our continued focus on diversity equity and inclusion.

Speaker 2: And I'm extremely excited about the partnership that we recently announced with the Department of Defense and their Military Spouse Employment Partnership, or MSEP.

And I am extremely excited about the partnership that we recently announced with the department of defense and their military spouse employment partnership or <unk>.

Speaker 2: This aligns with our goal of driving a culture of diversity, equity, and inclusion, where different perspectives and experiences are welcomed and respected.

This aligns with our goal of driving a culture of diversity equity and inclusion where different perspectives and experiences.

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Speaker 2: Through the MSEP program, we partner to identify employment opportunities at IEA for both military spouses and active duty members who are nearing their time to reenter civilian life.

Through the <unk> program, we partner to identify employment opportunities at IAA for both military spouses and active duty members, who are nearing their time to reenter civilian lives.

Speaker 2: This, along with our earlier commitment to the CEO Action for Diversity and Inclusion Pledge supports IEA's continued focus on creating work environments that provide equal access to professional growth and advancement opportunities for all of our IEA team members.

This along with our earlier commitment to the CEO action for diversity and inclusion pledge supports <unk> continued focus on creating work environments that provide equal access to professional growth and advancement opportunities for all of our team members.

Speaker 2: So, in summary, we are pleased with the progress and the results that we've delivered over the last year.

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So in summary.

We are pleased with the progress and the results that we've delivered over the last year.

Speaker 2: We are operating in a dynamic environment, given the ongoing pandemic and some unique 2022 headwinds, and we'll continue to work closely with our buyers and sellers while remaining focused on the health and safety of our team.

We are operating in a dynamic environment, given the ongoing pandemic and some unique 2022 headwinds and we will continue to work closely with our buyers and sellers, while remaining focused on the health and safety of our teams.

Speaker 2: I'm excited about the opportunities that are in front of us in 2022 and beyond. The capabilities that we have built and continue to improve upon put us in a great position to grow and succeed in this marketplace over the long term.

I am excited about the opportunities that are in front of us in 2022 and beyond the capabilities that we have built and continue to improve upon put us in a great position to grow and succeed in this marketplace over the long term.

Speaker 2: So I want to thank you and all of our teams for their continued hard work and dedication to IEA. And with that, I will turn the call over to Susan. Susan?

So I want to thank you and all of our teams for their continued hard work and dedication to IAA and with that I will turn the call over to Susan Susan.

Thank you John .

Speaker 3: I will focus my discussion today on our adjusted non-GAAP results and touch on some key highlights.

I will focus my discussion today on our adjusted non-GAAP results and touch on some key highlights. Please see today's press release for more details on our financial performance and our methodology when calculating non-GAAP results.

Speaker 3: Please see today's press release for more details on our financial performance and our methodology when calculating non-GAAP results. As John discussed, Q4 results were in line with our guidance and capped off a strong fiscal 2021 performance. For the year, we delivered organic revenue growth of 28.8%, coming from a 21.3% increase in ARPU at a 9.2% increase in volume versus fiscal 2020.

As John discussed Q4 results were in line with our guidance and capped off a strong fiscal 2021 performance.

For the year, we delivered organic revenue growth of 28, 8% coming from a 21, 3% increase in <unk> at a nine 2% increase in volume versus fiscal 2020.

Speaker 3: Organic adjusted EBITDA grew by 35.9% as the sales increase was accompanied by gross margin expansion as well as leveraged and adjusted SG&A. As a reminder, fiscal 2021 was a 53-week year with an extra week in the fourth quarter. For the 53rd week, revenue was approximately $28 million and adjusted EBITDA was approximately $11 million.

Organic adjusted EBITDA grew by 35, 9% as the sales increase was accompanied by gross margin expansion as well as leverage in adjusted SG&A. As a reminder, fiscal 2021 was a 53 week year with an extra week in the fourth quarter for the 50 <unk> week revenue was approximately <unk>.

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Speaker 3: Turning to our fourth quarter results in more detail, consolidated revenues increased 42.9% year-over-year to $548.1 million.

Turning to our fourth quarter results in more detail Consol.

Consolidated revenues increased 42, 9% year over year to $548 1 million.

Speaker 3: Organic consolidated revenue, which excludes the impact of foreign currency and revenue from the auto exchange and kinetic acquisitions, increased 32.8% to $509.4 million due to an increase in ARPU of 21.6% and a volume increase of 9.2%.

Organic consolidated revenue, which excludes the impact of foreign currency and revenue from the auto exchanges genetic acquisitions increased 32, 8% to $509 4 million.

Due to an increase in <unk> of 21, 6% and a volume increase of nine 2%.

Speaker 3: Our food growth was driven in part by the strong used car pricing environment, which results in higher proceeds in our auction.

ARPA growth was driven in part by the strong used car pricing environment, which results in higher proceeds and our options.

Speaker 3: Used car prices have continued to grow throughout the year, with the Mannheim Index increasing 15.3% sequentially in the fourth quarter.

Used car prices have continued to grow throughout the year with the Manheim index, increasing 15, 3% sequentially in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3: At this point, we believe that used car pricing will remain elevated at least through the first half of 2022.

At this point, we believe that used car pricing will remain elevated at least through the first half of 2022.

Speaker 3: ARPU also benefited from our initiatives to drive higher auction proceeds, including enhancements to our merchandising platform, Interact, and the growth in our global buyer base, which increases auction liquidity and drives higher returns.

<unk> also benefited from our initiatives to drive higher option proceeds, including enhancements to our merchandising platform interact and the growth in our global buyer base, which increases auction liquidity and drive higher returns.

Speaker 3: Volume growth in the quarter benefited from the extra week, increased volume from the CAT, and the continued recovery of miles driven, offset by a decline in the total loss ratio as published by PCC to 18.7% from 21.7% in the fourth quarter of 2020.

Volume growth in the quarter benefited from the extra week increased value from the cat <unk>.

And the continued recovery of miles driven.

All set by a decline in the total loss ratio as published by CCC to 18, 7% from 21, 7% in the fourth quarter of 2020.

Speaker 3: We believe the strength in used car pricing, which benefits us and ARPU, may have some impact on the total loss ratio as it increases the threshold for deeming a vehicle to be a total loss.

We believe the strength in used car pricing, which benefits us in our two may have some impact on the total loss ratio as it increases thresholds for gaming a vehicle to be a total loss.

Speaker 3: Over the long term, we expect the total loss ratio to resume its upward trend due to factors we have previously discussed, such as increased vehicle complexity, higher repair costs, longer repair times, and attractive salvage returns.

The long term, we expect the total loss ratio to resume its upward trend due to factors. We have previously discussed such as increased vehicle complexity higher repair costs longer repair time and attractive salvage returns.

Speaker 3: Service revenue increased by 30.9% in the quarter and purchase vehicle revenue increased by 121.5%.

Service revenue increased by 39% in the quarter and purchased vehicle revenue increased by 121, 5%.

Speaker 3: The outsized growth in purchased vehicle revenue was driven by a higher volume of purchased vehicles in the U.S., the switch of an international customer from a consignment model to a purchased vehicle model in the fourth quarter of 2020, and the addition of Synetics.

The outsized growth in purchased vehicle revenue was driven by.

Higher volume of purchased vehicles in the U S.

The switch of an international customer from a consignment model to a purchase vehicle model in the fourth quarter of 2020, and the addition of kinetic.

Speaker 3: Like our IAA UK business, the majority of Synetics revenues come from purchase vehicle contracts.

Leather IAA UK business, the majority of synthetics revenues come from purchased vehicle contracts.

Speaker 3: All of these increases pushed purchase vehicle sales up to 20.5% of total revenue in the quarter compared to 13.2% in the prior year period.

All of these increases pushed purchased vehicle sales up to 25% of total revenue in the quarter compared to 13, 2% in the prior year period.

Speaker 3: Gross profit increased 23.6% to $188.3 million, while gross margin rate declined 530 bp vs Q4 2020.

Gross profit increased 23, 6% to $188 3 million, while gross margin rate declined 530 basis points versus Q4 2020.

Speaker 3: Most of this year-over-year decline, 440 basis points, came from two factors, the higher mix of purchased vehicles and the elevated cost of our cap response in Hurricane Ida, each contributing 220 basis points of deleverage.

Most of this year over year decline.

340 basis points came from two factors.

The higher mix of purchased vehicles and the elevated cost of our cat response, and hurricane Ida each contributing 220 basis points of deleverage.

Speaker 3: The remainder came from higher towing and labor costs, both of which have been impacted by economy-wide resource constraints.

Speaker 3: For the quarter, our total cat loss was $6.4 million.

For the quarter, our total cat loss was $6 4 million.

Speaker 3: As we noted last quarter, servicing our customers is our number one priority during a CAT, so it is not unusual for us to incur losses during these events, especially in high-cost markets such as the Northeast.

As we noted last quarter servicing our customers as our number one priority during a cat. So it is not unusual for us to incur losses. During these events, especially in high cost markets such as the northeast.

Speaker 3: SG&A expenses increased to $55.4 million from $37.7 million in the prior year.

SG&A expenses increased to $55 4 million from $37 7 million in the prior year.

Speaker 3: Included in SG&A is $1.5 million of expense related to the earn out from our auto exchange acquisition.

Included in SG&A is $1 $5 billion of expense related to the earn out from our auto exchange acquisition.

Speaker 3: That transaction was structured as a $4 million upfront payment and a maximum $11 million five-year earn out that was booked at a value of $3.3 million at the time of purchase.

That transaction was structured as a $4 million upfront payment and a maximum of 11 million dollar five year earn out that was booked at a value of $3 $3 million at the time of purchase.

Speaker 3: Based on auto exchange and strong performance, the expected value of this earn out was increased by $1.5 million in Q4 and could increase or decrease in the future depending on the performance of the business. This runs through SG&A but is in essence deferred purchase price consideration. SG&A also includes $700,000 of expense related to contingent consideration associated with the SINETIC transaction.

Just on auto exchange and strong performance the expected value of this earn out was increased by $1 $5 million in Q4 and could increase or decrease in the future depending on the performance of the business.

This runs through SG&A, but is in essence deferred purchase price consideration SG.

SG&A also includes $700000 of expense related to contingent consideration associated with the synthetic transaction.

Speaker 3: Adjusted SG&A expenses were $47.9 million, an increase of 30.9% compared to the prior year quarter, due mainly to higher headcount, higher incentive compensation, greater technology spend, and the inclusion of auto exchange and SEMETEC.

Adjusted SG&A expenses were $47 9 million and.

An increase of 39% compared to the prior year quarter, due mainly to higher head count higher incentive compensation greater technology spend and the inclusion of auto exchange and genetic.

Speaker 3: Adjusted EBITDA increased by 21.2% to $140.4 million.

Adjusted EBITDA increased by 21, 2% to $144 million.

Speaker 3: Excluding the impact of foreign currency, as well as the acquisitions of auto exchange and Synetic, organic adjusted EBITDA increased by 18.8%. Interest expense declined to $11.7 million compared to $12.9 million in the fourth quarter last year.

Excluding the impact of foreign currency as well as the acquisitions of Idaho exchanges genetic organic adjusted EBITDA increased by 18, 8%.

Interest expense declined to $11 7 million compared to $12 9 million in the fourth quarter last year.

Speaker 3: The decline was primarily driven by lower interest rates on floating rate debt, as well as a lower debt balance for the month of October , partly offset by a higher net debt balance after the closing of the Sinetic Acquisition at the end of October .

The decline was primarily driven by lower interest rates on floating rate debt as well as the lower debt balance for the month of October partly offset by a higher net debt balance after the closing of the synthetic acquisition at the end of October .

Speaker 3: The interest rate on our term loan and revolver is currently about one and a half percent, which is nearly 100 basis points lower than the fourth quarter of last year.

The interest rate on our term loan and revolver is currently about one 5%, which is nearly a 100 basis points lower than the fourth quarter of last year.

Speaker 3: The effective tax rate was 23.2% versus 22.2% in the fourth quarter last year.

The effective tax rate was 23, 2% versus 22, 2% in the fourth quarter last year.

Speaker 3: Net income increased to $73.3 million from $64.1 million in the prior year quarter. And adjusted net income increased by 25.6% to $82 million or 61 cents per diluted share.

Net income increased to $73 3 million from.

From $64 1 million in the prior year quarter, and adjusted net income increased by 25, 6% to $82 million or <unk> 61.

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Speaker 3: Turning to our cash flow and balance sheet, capital expenditures were $55.6 million for the quarter and $135.6 million for the year. Included in the fourth quarter was a real estate purchase of approximately $37 million, which is part of a planned sale-leaseback transaction that will be completed later this quarter.

Turning to our cash flow and balance sheet capital expenditures were $55 $6 million for the quarter and $135 6 million for the year.

Included in the fourth quarter was a real estate purchase of approximately $37 million, which is part of a planned sale leaseback transaction that will be completed later this quarter.

Speaker 3: In addition to this property, we spend another $17 million on real estate purchases in the year, including the exercise of purchase options on our existing locations in several attractive markets. We will continue to look for opportunities to purchase property where it makes sense, both economically and strategically for our business.

In addition to this property we spent another $17 million on real estate purchases in the year, including the exercise of purchase options on our existing locations in several attractive market. We will continue to look for opportunities to purchase property, where it makes sense, both economically and strategically for our business.

Speaker 3: Also driving our capital expenditures in the quarter were increased technology investments, which included enhancing our vehicle imaging capabilities to improve the buyer experience in our digital auction.

Also driving our capital expenditures in the quarter were increased technology investments, which included enhancing our vehicle imaging capabilities to improve the buyer experience and our digital auction.

Speaker 3: During the fourth quarter, we spent $34 million to repurchase approximately 680,000 shares at a weighted average price of $50.17 per share. We will continue to employ share repurchases on a selective basis as a method of returning capital to shareholders.

During the fourth quarter, we spent $34 million to repurchase approximately 680000 shares at a weighted average price of $50 17 per share.

We will continue to employ share repurchases on a selective basis as a method of returning capital to shareholders.

Speaker 3: Our balance sheet remains very strong and we exited the year with total liquidity of $463.8 million.

Our balance sheet remains very strong and we exited the year with total liquidity of $463 8 million.

Speaker 3: We ended the period with a leverage ratio of 2.3 times, which is 2.2 times on a pro forma basis as if Synetic were owned for the full year. This compares to 2.7 times leverage at the end of 2020, which means that we were able to reduce our pro forma leverage by a half turn in 2021 while also deploying over $300 million in capital for acquisition.

We ended the period with a leverage ratio of two three times, which is two two times on a pro forma basis as a synthetic were owned for the full year. This compares to two seven times leverage at the end of 2020, which means that we are able to reduce our pro forma leverage by a half turn in 2021, while also deploying.

Over $300 million of capital for acquisitions.

Speaker 3: Net cash provided by operating activities for the quarter was $27.7 million, down 38.2% from the prior year. For the full year, it was $311.1 million, essentially flat with the prior year.

Net cash provided by operating activities for the quarter was $27 7 million.

Down 38, 2% from the prior year.

For the full year, it was $311 1 million.

Essentially flat with the prior year.

Speaker 3: Cash flow in the back half of this year was negatively impacted by our outlays for Hurricane Ida.

Cash flow in the back half of this year was negatively impacted by our outlays to hurricane Ida.

Speaker 3: As a reminder, when we pick up vehicles for our providers, we pay advance charges which are recouped only when the vehicle is sold.

As a reminder, when we pick up vehicles for our providers, we pay advance charges, which are recouped only when the vehicle is sold.

Speaker 3: As of year end, our level of advanced charge payments was higher due to the cat volume still in inventory.

As of year end, our level of advanced charge payments was higher due to the cat volume still in inventory.

Speaker 3: For the year, we generated free cash flow of $175.5 million, down 26.9% from 2020, due to higher capital expenditures and a greater dollar amount of land purchases, as well as the timing of advanced charges relative to vehicles sold from the CAT.

For the year, we generated free cash flow of $175 $5 million down 26, 9% from 2020 due to higher capital expenditures and a greater dollar amount of land purchases as well as the timing of advanced charges relative to be pulled sold from the cat.

Speaker 3: Before I turn to our outlook, I would like to provide an update on our Margin Expansion Plan. As you may recall, we announced this initiative in March 2020 with the goal of achieving net adjusted EBITDA run rate benefits of $104 to $122 million by the end of 2024.

Before I turn to our outlook I would like to provide an update on our margin expansion plan.

As you May recall, we announced this initiative in March 2020, with the goal of achieving net adjusted EBITDA run rate benefit of $104 million to $122 million by the end of 2024.

Speaker 3: Through the end of 2021, we are on track with our plan, generating approximately $81 million of total savings.

Through the end of 2021, we are on track with our plan generating approximately $81 million of total savings.

Speaker 3: We've exceeded our initial estimates on the Buyer Digital Transformation and Pricing Initiative, although we are a little bit behind on towing and branch efficiency, due in large part to current macro conditions. At this point, we do not expect these constraints to ease in 2022, but we do remain confident in achieving our original savings target by 2024. Turning now to our Outlook.

We've exceeded our initial estimates on the buyer digital transformation and pricing initiatives, although we are a little bit behind on telling and branch efficiency due in large part to current macro conditions. At this point, we do not expect these constraints to ease in 2022, but we do remain confident in achieving our original.

Savings target by 2024.

Turning now to our outlook for fiscal 2022.

Speaker 3: Our guidance for 2022 includes the full-year impact of actual and expected market share gains and losses and reflects a range of assumptions regarding market growth, ARPU, and towing and labor costs.

Our guidance for 2022 includes the full year impact of actual and expected market share gains and losses and reflects a range of assumptions regarding market growth <unk> and telling and labor costs.

Speaker 3: The combination of these factors mean that we expect our adjusted EBITDA margin to decline in 2022, driven in part by the impact of a higher mix of purchase vehicles, including from Sinetic and other inflationary pressures, most notably in towing. In terms of cadence, we expect the margin pressures to be greater in the first half of the year.

Combination of these factors mean that we expect our adjusted EBITDA margin to decline in 2022, driven in part by the impact of a higher mix of purchased vehicles, including from Synetic and other inflationary pressures much most notably in telling.

In terms of cadence, we expect the margin pressures to be greater in the first half of the year.

Speaker 3: With the exception of the organic growth percentage, all figures in this outlook include the impact of currency and the auto exchange and synetic acquisition.

With the exception of the organic growth percentage all figures in this outlook include the impact of currency and the auto exchange and genetic acquisition.

Speaker 3: For fiscal 2022, we expect...

For fiscal 2022, we expect.

Speaker 3: total revenues of $2.05 to $2.15 billion, including a negative impact from currency of approximately $8 to $10 million.

Total revenues of 2.5 to $2, one 5 billion, including a negative impact from currency of approximately $8 million to $10 million.

Speaker 3: organic revenue growth of 1.5% to 7%.

Organic revenue growth of one 5% to 7%.

Speaker 3: total adjusted EBITDA of $525 to $575 million, including a negative impact from currency of approximately $1.5 million.

Total adjusted EBITDA of $525 million to $575 million, including a negative impact from currency of approximately $1 $5 million.

Speaker 3: organic adjusted EBITDA growth of negative eight percent to positive one and a half percent.

Organic adjusted EBITDA growth of negative 8% to positive one 5%.

Speaker 3: adjusted SG&A expense of $215 to $225 million, including approximately $28 million of adjusted SG&A associated with Sonetic.

Adjusted SG&A expense of 215 $225 million, including approximately $28 million.

Of adjusted SG&A associated with Synetic.

Speaker 3: Interest expense of $28 to $50 million, an effective tax rate of 24.5% to 25.5%, depreciation and amortization of $100 to $105 million.

Interest expense of $28 million to $50 million and effective tax rate of 25, 5% to 20, sorry, 24, 5% to 25, 5%.

Depreciation and amortization of $100 million to $105 million.

Speaker 3: With that, we'll open up the call to questions. Operator?

With that we'll open up the call to questions operator.

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Speaker 4: Okay, our first question comes from Daniel Imbro from Stevens. Daniel, please go ahead. Yep.

Okay. Our first question comes from Daniel <unk> from Stephens Daniel Please go ahead.

Yeah, Hey, good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 5: I'm on the mark on the margin guidance is I think there's a little bit of confusion just I think the midpoint it's a little over 26% even on margin you guys haven't done that since call it 2016 I think and that's back when you ran physical auctions I mean you just called out 81 million in total cost savings since then can you just provide some more color on maybe

The one on the on the margin guidance I think there's a little bit of confusion I.

I think the midpoint, it's a little over 26% EBITDA margin you guys haven't done that in call. It 2016, I think and in fact, when you ran physical auctions I mean, you just called out $81 million in total cost savings. Since then can you just provide some more color on maybe.

Speaker 5: Or can you quantify the different buckets of the caught headwinds that are causing this substantial, or the more, uh, you know, larger step down in margins that you're guiding through for next year?

Okay.

Can you quantify the different buckets that the cost headwinds that are causing this substantial more.

Larger step down in margins that you are guiding to for next year.

Sure.

Speaker 3: You know, when you think about our business and our margins and you're trying to compare it to where we are in the past, when we were in the past on a gross margin basis, the difficulty with doing that is our business has a higher mix of purchase vehicles than it was then. So it's almost apples and oranges in terms of the revenue line.

When you think about our business and our margins and you're trying to compare it to where we are in the past when we were in the past on a gross margin basis.

The difficulty with doing that is our business has a higher mix of purchased vehicles than it was then so normal apples and oranges in terms of the revenue line when.

Speaker 3: When we're looking at next year's margins, the biggest impact next year is similar to what we've reported on for this year, which is the mix of purchase vehicles just keeps going up. And it goes up because of our international business growth, the acquisition of Synetic, and the opportunities we're seeing in the U.S. market.

When we're looking at next year's margins.

Biggest impact next year is similar to what we've reported on for this year, which is the mix of purchase vehicles, just keeps going up and it goes up because of our international business growth the acquisitions position of kinetic and the opportunities we're seeing in the U S market to give you to give you.

Speaker 3: To give you a guide, we disclosed in our press release the impact on the year-over-year margin in 2021 of the purchased vehicle mix.

We disclosed in our press release the impact on the year over year margin in 2021 of the purchased vehicle mix, we would expect the year over year impact in 2022 versus 2021 to be similar.

Speaker 3: We'd expect the year-over-year impact in 2022 versus 2021 to be similar.

Speaker 5: OK, so I think you said 220 basis points in the fourth quarter. That's part of the step down. The rest is just cost inflation? Or, I mean, since you guys guided this, can you just quantify, maybe with more specificity, what the headwinds you're banking in are?

Okay.

Got it.

220 basis points in the fourth quarter.

Part of the step down the rest is just cost inflation.

Could you guys guide can you just quantify maybe with more specificity, what what the headwinds you're baking in.

Speaker 3: Got it. Just to clarify, the 220 was the impact of purchased vehicle mix quarter over quarter, and the full year number was 170. So I'd sort of say somewhere in between those two will be the impact 2022 versus 2021.

Got it just to clarify the $2 20 was the impact of purchase vehicle mix quarter over quarter and the full year number was 170 <unk>. So that's sort of stay somewhere in between those two will be that has had 2022 versus 2021 and the other the other really big impact.

Speaker 3: And the other really big impact is towing costs. So we called this out, gosh, I think starting in Q2 and definitely when we reported Q3 and Q4, that we were seeing an increase in towing costs.

Is telling costs. So we call this out.

I think starting in Q2 and definitely when we reported Q3 and Q4 that we were seeing an increase in selling costs originally where it hit us. The most was in the cat for Kurt Kane, Ida and so we had to pay a premium for telling resources, there and service providers.

Speaker 3: Originally, where it hit us the most was in the CAT for Hurricane Ida, and so we had to pay a premium for towing resources there to service our providers, which made sense and was the right business decision for us, long-term economics as well as strategic.

Which made sense. It was the right business decision for us long term.

Long term economics as well as strategically what we then began to see was a knock on impact of that so when you're when you're attracting these selling resources to one market youre going to see an impact at all across the country and we experienced that in Q4 and so when we look out to 2022 again.

Speaker 3: What we then began to see was a knock-on impact of that, so when you're attracting these towing resources to one market, you're going to see an impact all across the country.

Speaker 3: we experienced that in Q4. And so when we look out to 2022, again, you know, nobody has perfect visibility, but we don't see anything that shows that those cost pressures are abating, especially because they are very similar to what other companies are experiencing across the economy in terms of, you know, here in other companies' reports in terms of transportation.

Nobody has perfect visibility, but we don't see anything that shows that those cost pressures are abating, especially because they are very similar to what other companies are experiencing across the economy in terms of <unk> and other companies reports in terms of transportation.

Speaker 3: costs, in terms of labor costs due to the inflationary pressures in the economy. We're not seeing anything that's going to have those abated, so that's what we've baked into our guidance, and that's what's

At cost in terms of labor costs due to the inflationary pressures in the economy, we're not.

Not seeing anything that's got to have those abate. So that's what we've baked into our guidance and Thats whats the other factor that's pressuring our margins in 2022.

Speaker 3: the other factor that's pressuring our margins in 2022.

Speaker 5: Okay, that's helpful. And then maybe a longer term question on margin, just when you vehicle prices moderate, whether that's 12, 24 months, take your time frame. I mean, what is the right earnings power of the business? When you look at it? I mean, what is the right long term EBITDA margin that you guys think you can achieve in the business?

Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe a longer term question on margin just when used vehicle prices moderate whether thats 12, 24 months pick your timeframe I mean, what is the earnings power of the business. When you look at it I mean, what is the right long term EBITDA margin that you guys think you can achieve in the business.

Speaker 6: You know, I'll answer that thinking about the drivers, right? Because you mentioned one of the drivers used car prices, and we've definitely benefited from that, and our ARPU has been driven by a combination of that.

Ill answer that thinking about the drivers right. Because you mentioned one of the drivers used car prices and we've definitely benefited from that and our Arco has driven and driven by a combination of that.

Speaker 3: used car pricing but then also a lot of things we're doing for self-help to drive higher proceeds in our auctions. It's been a mix.

Used car pricing, but then also a lot of the things we're doing for self help to drive higher proceeds and our options its been a mix.

Speaker 3: If and when used car price increases slow down, there are other levers in our business, most particularly volume, right? I mean, the leverage in our business comes...

If in one used car price increases slowdown there are other levers in our business, most particularly volume right I mean, the leverage in our business comes at four months from volume we have had.

Speaker 3: foremost from volume. We have had a market share loss that John discussed.

<unk> share loss that John discussed from one provider a large customer who is not going to be such a large customer going forward, but we've had a number of gains and maybe I'll, let John address that so there's the volume side of the equation and before I turn it back to John one other thing on margins is there is a margin expansion plan.

Speaker 3: but we've had a number of gains and maybe I'll let John address that. So there's the volume side of the equation. And before I turn it back to John , one other thing on margins is there's our margin expansion plan. There's the efficiencies that we still have on our plate in towing and labor costs. And if inflationary pressures abate in terms of used car prices, we would expect that to also allow us to focus on those opportunities as well. John , do you want to? Yeah, thanks Susan. So a couple other comments. One on the volume front.

There is the efficiencies that we are we still have on our plate and telling and labor cost and if inflation of aerie pressures abate in terms of used car prices. We would expect that to also allow us to focus on those opportunities as well John do you want it.

Speaker 2: John , do you want to? Yeah. Thanks, Susan. So a couple other comments. One on the volume front. The other effect of moderating used car prices, all other things being equal, would be more total losses because of the ratio of repair to value. So as values come down, you would expect more vehicles to actually then be totaled. So that would be supportive on the volume side. The other thing that I would say is that.

Thanks, Susan So a couple of other comments then one on the volume front. The other effect of moderate and used car prices all other things being equal would be more total losses because of the ratio of repair to value. So as values come down you would expect more vehicles to actually then the total so that that would be support.

On the volume side the other thing.

I would say is that.

Speaker 2: Use car pricing is a driver of value, but again, the things that we're doing around bringing more buyers to the auction, the things we're doing around providing additional services to make things easier to do business with us, that's going to drive higher bidding. And so to us, those are those are things that that that's the self help. I think that Susan referred to as well as embedded in the, in the margin expansion plan is pricing optimization. So we are doing other things to make sure that we're optimizing the services and products that we offer that we're charging the appropriate fees for. So all those all those factor into.

Used car pricing is.

Driver of value, but again, the things that we're doing around bringing more buyers to the auction the things we're doing around providing additional services to make things easier to do business with us thats going to drive higher bidding and so to US those are those are things that.

The self help I think that Susan referred to.

As well as embedded in the margin expansion plan as pricing optimization. So we are doing other things to make sure that we're optimizing for services and products that we offer that.

Charging the appropriate fees. So all of those all of those factor into as we think about the long term.

Speaker 2: as we think about the long-term profit profile of IA.

Profit profile.

Okay I'll hop back in the queue. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 4: But thank you. The next question comes from Craig Kennison from bed. Craig, Please go ahead your line.

Thanks Dana.

Thank you.

Next question comes from Craig Kennison from Baird. Greg. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 7: I just wanted to follow up on the revenue guidance of 1.5% to 7% organic growth. Could you help us unpack that and share what your broad range assumptions would be for volume and ARPU within that guidance?

Hey, Thanks, and good morning, just wanted to follow up on the revenue guidance.

One 5% to 7% organic growth could you help us unpack that and share what your broad range assumptions would be for volume and <unk> within that.

Items.

Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean, I think, again, we do see recovery in miles driven, which, you know, from a base volume driver, that's a really important one. And then on ARPU, you know, our view is that used car prices are going to remain strong.

Sure Yeah, I mean, I think again we.

We do see recovery in miles driven.

Which from a from a base volume driver Thats, a really important one.

On <unk>, our view is that used car prices are going to remain strong.

Speaker 2: Through, you know, most of 2022, you know, there's there's differing reports out there now about how long it will last, but certainly from the most recent information. It seems like it's, it's pushing later in the year versus earlier. So I think both those are.

Through most of 2022.

There's differing reports out there now about how long it will last but certainly from the most recent information that seems like it's.

It's pushing later in the year versus earlier, so I think both of those are.

Speaker 2: are positive, but, you know, those are big drivers. So to the extent that we don't see the same level of recovery, or as

Our positive Budd.

Those are those are big drivers so to the extent that.

We don't see the same level of recovery or.

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Speaker 2: As insurance companies, you know, think about that total loss frequency, if they do, in fact, then total less cars, you know, that's kind of the downside of our range is trying to take all those things into account.

As insurance companies think about that total loss frequency if they do in fact in total less cars, that's kind of the downside of our ranges trying to take all of those things into account.

Speaker 7: That's helpful. Thanks, John . And then, you know, with respect to ARPU, you know, there's a lot of focus on used car prices, rightly so. But, you know, internally, you have initiatives like, you know, the price increases you've pursued or incremental fees from new services, like, like an internet buying fee or loan payoff. Are there any sort of internally driven ARPU drivers that you're excited about in 2022?

That's helpful. Thanks, John and then.

With respect to our pool there is.

A lot of focus on used car prices rightly so but.

Internally you have initiatives like the price increases you pursued or incremental fees from new services like.

And internet buying fee or loan pay off are there any sort of internally driven or.

<unk> drivers that you're excited about in 2022.

Speaker 2: I mean, we have a number of things that, yes, that we are excited about. You know, for competitive reasons, I can't really go into them, but yeah, we do, we are really, as part of our whole margin expansion, really taking apart all the things that we do and making sure that we are charging for them appropriately. So there are other things that we are working on. And I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I mean, we have a number of things that yes that we are excited about.

Competitive reasons I can't really go into them, but yes, we do we are really as part of our whole margin expansion really taking apart all the things that we do and making sure that we are charging for them appropriately. So.

There are other other things that we are working on.

Thanks ill get back in the queue.

Thanks, Robert Thanks, Greg.

Thank you Craig.

Speaker 4: The next question comes from Stephanie Moore from Truist. Stephanie, please go ahead, your line is open.

The next question comes from Stephanie Moore from Truest Stephanie. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning.

Good morning, So 2017.

Speaker 6: I think it might be helpful to just provide us an update or overview on how some of the contracts with your insurance customers are structured these days in terms of any kind of changes in auction providers. I think historically it's always been these are sticky contracts, multi-year, so that makes them pretty steady.

I think it might be helpful.

Can you provide us an update our overview on how some of the contracts with your insurance customers are structured these days in terms of any kind of changes in <unk>.

<unk> providers I think historically its always been these are sticky contracts multiyear so that makes them pretty steady.

Speaker 6: While I think it's a positive, we're kind of at the end of the share shift with this known customer, maybe just give us an update on how these contracts are structured. Just broadly speaking, I think it would be helpful just for an information purpose. Thank you.

Well I think it's a positive we're kind of at the end of the share shift that's known customer maybe just give us an update on how these contracts are structured.

Broadly speaking I think it would be helpful. Pittsburgh inflammation purpose. Thank you.

Speaker 2: Great, Stephanie, thanks. Yeah, you know, they really haven't changed the way you've described them. They, you know, I've always talked about the provider approach in a couple different ways. You know, national, very centralized, and then there are carriers that, while they may have central decision making, allow decisions to be made at a region or a geographic basis. That, for the most part, hasn't changed.

Great. Thanks.

They really haven't changed the way you've described them.

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I've always talked about the provider approach and a couple of different ways.

National very centralized and then there are carriers that while they may have central decision, making allow decisions to be made at a region.

Or a geographic basis.

For the most part Hasnt changed I mean the.

Speaker 2: You know, over a longer term, there was a lot more decentralized decision making for the most part among the big carriers and even the midsize carriers that is for the most part centralized. So I don't think that's changed.

Over a longer term there was a lot more decentralized decision, making for the most part among the big carriers and even the midsized carriers that is for the most part centralized so I don't think Thats changed.

So yes.

The.

The way that we approach and the way that they are interacting with us it really hasnt changed that much I would say.

It's pretty similar to how you just described.

Speaker 6: Got it. And then just as a follow-up, so the ability for any insurance carrier to make a decision to, you know, shift volumes, positive or negative, how is that determined? And, you know, if that makes sense in kind of in the realms of the contract. So, you know, I guess the leniency or the ability, you know, intra-year to say, OK, well, I'm going to give more more volumes here or take volumes away. How does that work in a standard contract? And I realize every contract is totally different, but just kind of broadly speaking.

Got it and then just as a follow up so the ability for any insurance carrier to make a decision to shift volume positive or negative how is that determined that makes sense it kind of in the.

The round of the contract so I guess the.

Leniency or the ability to enter.

For year to say, okay, well I'm going to give more more volume tier or take volumes away. How does that work in a standard contract and I realize that the countries probably different but just kind of broadly speaking.

Speaker 2: Most agreements provide for the ability for a carrier to add or change within the way the contract is set up. That's very typical that they could move. It doesn't mean they're going to, but it gives them flexibility for the most part to make those kinds of changes.

Yes, most agreements provide for the ability for a carrier to.

Editor change.

Change within the the way the contract is set up that's very typical.

They could move it doesn't mean, they're going to but it gives them flexibility for the most part to make those kinds of changes.

Speaker 6: Got it. And then switching gears to just the towing inflation. I think we all are familiar with what's going on with freight and cost and labor costs. But you mentioned the ability to leverage your app a little bit more. Are there any other opportunities just with maybe contractual agreements or spot agreements to kind of lessen the impact of towing costs? Or at this point, are you kind of just at the mercy of the market? So any color there on abating some of the higher towing costs given your size would be helpful.

Got it and then switching gears to just the cooling inflation I think we all are familiar with what's going on with freight in costs and labor costs, but.

Mentioned the ability to leverage your app, a little bit more are there any other opportunities just with maybe contractual agreements or spine agreements to kind of lessen the impact of towing costs are at this point or are you kind of just at the mercy of the market. So any color there.

Abating some of the higher selling cost just given your size would be helpful.

Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're taking a lot of actions to try and optimize routing and just try to make the dispatch and pickup process as efficient as we can so that even if we're paying more on a gross basis, we're trying to make it as efficient as we can so those towers can pick up more cars within the confines of how we've set up agreements with them. So using that driving adoption of our app.

Yes, no. We are we're taking a lot of actions to try and optimize routing and just try to make the dispatch and pick up process as efficient as we can so that.

Even if we're paying more on out.

Gross basis, we're trying to make it as efficient as we can so those tours can pick up more cars.

Within the <unk>.

Signs of how we've set up agreements with them, so using driving adoption of our app.

Speaker 2: Has been has been really important to that because it does allow us a lot of efficiency and the ability to really see You know where a tower is relative to the vehicles. We're trying to get picked up and then we're also

It has been it has been really important to that because it does allow us a lot of efficiency and the ability to really see.

We're a tour is relative to the vehicles, we're trying to get picked up and then we're also trying to really automate to the extent we can the payment process because that is a fairly inefficient process of getting funds to clear the advanced charges that Susan talked about that we pay on the front end thats another bottleneck in the process.

Speaker 2: trying to really automate, to the extent we can, the payment process. Because that is a fairly inefficient process of getting funds to clear the advanced charges that Susan talked about that we pay on the front end. That's another bottleneck in the process that, to the extent we can automate and make those transactions electronic, we can speed that up, too. So those are all things that we are very actively working on and implementing as we go.

To the extent, we can automate and make those those transactions electronic we can we can speed that up too. So those are all things that we are very actively working on and implementing as we go.

Great. Thanks, so much.

Thank you.

Speaker 4: Thank you, Stephanie. The next question comes from Bob Labick from CJS Securities. Bob, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you Stephanie.

Next question comes from Bob <unk> from CJS Securities. Please.

Please go ahead your line is open.

Speaker 7: Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to take, you know, just keep digging a little bit on the

Good morning, Thanks for taking our questions.

I wanted to dig just keep digging a little bit on the.

Speaker 7: towing costs and the variable costs in general, I guess, in the service.

<unk> cost for.

And the variable cost in general I guess in the service components.

Speaker 7: components. Just to get a sense, can you give us the components of the service COGS line? How much are fixed and how much are variable? And then kind of how much are the variable up? Is there an ability to put in surcharges on towing? What are the best ways to address the increase in the variable cost that have kind of skyrocketed?

Components, just to get a sense can you give us.

The components of the service Cogs line, how much of your fixed and how much of a variable and then kind of how much are the variable.

Is there an ability to put in.

Surcharges on towing.

One of the best ways to address the increase in the variable.

Costs that are kind of skyrocketed here.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob, hey, good morning. Yeah, I mean, I think a couple of things. One, certainly some of the things I just talked about on towing, we're certainly trying to implement those.

Yeah, Hey, good morning, Yes, I mean, I think a couple of things one certainly some of the things I just talked about on tolling.

Certainly trying to implement those.

Speaker 2: You know, we do have a two-sided marketplace with revenue on both sides.

We do have a two sided marketplace with revenue on both sides.

Speaker 2: Um, so, you know, how we.

So.

How we are able to offset this we're looking at different ways to do that.

Speaker 2: Are able to offset this, you know, we're looking at different ways to do that.

Speaker 2: But really it's, our primary focus is on trying to mitigate and control the cost because they are, you know, we're seeing those pressures that we've been talking about now for several quarters. So, you know, I don't think we typically disclose kind of the fixed versus variable, but obviously towing is the primary variable cost that we see. And then, you know, as you begin to move into.

But really it's.

Our primary focus is on trying to mitigate.

And control the cost because they are.

We're seeing those pressures that we've been talking about now for several several quarters. So.

I don't think we typically disclose kind of the fixed versus variable variable, but obviously towing is the primary.

Variable costs that we see.

And then as you begin to move into.

Speaker 2: kind of reconditioning, and then labor, and then real estate, you're starting to move more into the fixed element of it because you need to have people in a branch. And obviously, our real estate expansions.

Kind of Reconditioning, and then labor and then real estate Youre starting to move more into the fixed element of it because you need to have people in a branch.

And obviously, our real estate expansions.

Speaker 2: which we've, you know, talked about, that we've grown to support the growth of our business and our customers' business, that, from a fixed perspective, adds costs as well. Susan, anything to add to that? I think you've covered the major components, yeah.

Which we.

<unk> talked about that we've grown to support the growth of our business and our customers' business that from a fixed perspective and cost as well.

Susan.

I'm going to add to that or I think I think you've covered the major components yes.

Speaker 7: Okay, thanks. Yes, I mean, it sounds like the I mean, sequentially, you know, cost of services up $60 million. It sounds like the majority of that is towing. If that would be my interpretation.

Okay. Thanks, Yeah, So I mean, it sounds like I mean.

Sequentially cost.

Cost of service was up $60 million it sounds like the majority of that is towing.

That would be my interpretation.

Speaker 7: Okay, switching topics from just the expenses wanted to just kind of get back to the other part of the business.

Okay. So maybe switching topics from just the expenses wanted to just kind of get back to the other part of the business.

Speaker 7: You mentioned, I think, close to a quarter of the cars are non-salvage. Obviously, you have a...

You mentioned I think close to a quarter of the cars or non salvage.

So you have a.

Speaker 7: non-compete from the spin agreement. How is the kind of dealer car right now, you know,

Noncompete from the spin agreement how is the kind of a dealer car right now.

Speaker 7: a component of your sales and what do you think that will look like in a couple years when the non-compete ends because obviously that's a big

A component of your sales and what do you think that will look like in a couple of years when the noncompete and because obviously that's a big.

Speaker 7: growing potential part of the market and you guys have a very liquid and big buyer base that would be attracted to that. So maybe talk a little bit about the non-salvage growth opportunity and how that maybe changes as soon as the non-compete ends or during this time period.

Growing potential part of the market and you guys have a very liquid.

And big buyer base that would be attracted to that so maybe talk a little bit about the non salvage growth opportunity and how that maybe changes.

And just the noncompete ends or during this time period. Please.

Speaker 2: Great, Bob. Yeah. So, so just to be real clear, not insurance. So many of the cars we sell for dealer fleet rental are actually salvage title. So just to be real clear that 25% is 75% of our business is insurance. 25% is sort of everything else. But but that market, you know.

Great Bob Yes, so.

Just to be real clear non insurance so.

Many of the cars, we saw for dealer fleet rental are actually salvage titles. So just to be real clear that 25% is 75% of our business is insurance, 25% of sort of everything else, but that market.

Speaker 2: While we do have a non-compete in place from the spin, it didn't necessarily preclude us from servicing this market, it just, it put some royalties in place if we grew it above a certain level. You know, we've been very transparent that we're going to continue to grow that business despite...

While we do have a noncompete in place from the spin it didn't necessarily preclude us from servicing this market. It just did put some some.

Royalties in place if we grew at above a certain level, we've been very transparent that we're going to continue to grow that business. Despite.

Speaker 2: you know, in the short-term, you know, royalty payments we might have to make. And there are some, you know, literal restrictions that we have to comply with. But we continue to service that market. I think you said it well in repeating a little bit of what I said, that we do believe that our marketplace is really strong for...

In the short term.

Royalty payments you might have to make and there are some literal restrictions that we have to comply with but we continue to service that market. I think you said it well in repeating a little bit of what I said that we do believe that our marketplace is really strong for <unk>.

Speaker 2: Not the entire sort of whole car world, but there's a segment of vehicles that we really think we are the best venue for. So we're going to continue to capitalize upon that.

Not the entire sort of whole car world, but theres a segment of vehicles that we really think we are the best venue for so we're going to continue to capitalize upon that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the two plus years left on the non-compete, we'll kind of have to see what happens as that unfolds, but we're undiminished in terms of how we are going to continue to attack that market because, again, we think we're solving problems for customers in a way that no one else can in optimizing the value of those assets. That's why I wanted to mention it, because it is an important part of our business and a successful part of our business.

Yes, I mean the.

Two two plus years left on the noncompete, we'll kind of have to see what happens as that unfolds, but.

We're on diminished in terms of how we are going to continue.

Continue to attack that market because again, we think we're solving problems for customers in a way that no one else can and optimizing the value of those of those assets.

Yes.

That's why I wanted to mention it because it is an important part of our business and a successful part of our business.

Speaker 7: Super, okay, thank you very much.

Super Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 8: Thank you, Bob. Our next question comes from Brett Jordan of Jeffreys. Brett, please go ahead, your line is open.

Thanks, Bob.

Thank you Bob.

Next question comes from Bret Jordan of Jefferies Bret.

Please go ahead your line is open.

Hey, good morning, guys.

Client rep.

Speaker 1: Could you talk about that, I guess, the competitive landscape, you know, obviously, a large customer has shifted what appears to be sort of the increasing majority of their business away. Is that, I guess, when you think about the reasons for it, is there competitive pricing on the seller fee, or is there something at the service level, you know, it sort of, it originally struck me this was diversification, you might lose half of it, but it seems like it's more than that now.

Could you talk about that I guess, the competitive landscape, obviously, a large customer has shifted what appears to be sort of an increasing majority of their business away is that I guess when do you think about the reasons for it is there competitive pricing on the seller fee or is there something at the service level.

It's sort of it originally struck me. This was diversification that you might lose half of it it seems like it's more than that now but could.

Speaker 1: Could you talk about why you think that decision was made?

Could you talk about why you think that decision was made.

Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think it's multifaceted. You know, that is a carrier we continue to have a strong relationship with. We still do business with them in a number of geographies and across our product line. So, you know, it's part of our focus to try and recover that. But, you know, there are a lot of.

Yes, I mean I.

I think it's multifaceted.

That is a carrier we continue.

To have a strong relationship with we still do business with them in a number of geographies and across our product line. So.

It's part of our focus to try and recover that.

But.

There are there are a lot of.

Speaker 2: There's a lot of touch points in a relationship with a carrier, whether it's getting cars released and picked up, whether it's the titling process or the, you know, the proceeds that we get at auction, all those things matter at some levels, depending on who you're dealing with. And so I think, you know, those are all elements that enter into a decision.

Now, there's a lot of touch points in a relationship with a carrier whether it's getting cars released and picked up whether it's the titling process or the.

Proceeds that we get at auction all of those things matter at some levels, depending on who youre dealing with.

And so I think.

Those are all elements that enter into a decision.

Speaker 2: You know, I don't, I'm not going to really get into the specifics of this customer because I don't think it's necessarily appropriate, but I think.

I don't I'm, not going to really get into the specifics of this customer because I don't think it's.

Necessarily appropriate, but I think the.

Speaker 2: The things that I just talked about are all reasons that carriers

Things that I, just talked about are all reasons that carriers.

Speaker 2: look at in terms of how they make decisions about, you know, where they allocate share. Okay, and then you talked about 21% growth in the international buyer base. Do you have a feeling for what percentage of your transactions are being sold internationally now?

Look at in terms of how they make decisions about where they allocate share.

Okay, and then you talked about 21% growth in the international buyer base do you have a feeling for what percentage of your transactions are being sold internationally now.

Speaker 10: I don't know if we've disclosed that, but, you know, it's obviously a really important part and continues to grow. And, again, you know, across the market alliance partners that I talked about, there's still a lot of room to grow that further. So, yeah, I don't know that we've disclosed that percentage. But it is still – it's growing vibrant, and we really think that from the feedback that we get because of – I talked about some of the customer service initiatives that we've implemented on the buyer side. We're getting a lot of really good feedback, and we're using that to further enhance, you know, the services and the products that we offer, both our domestic and our international buyers. And we really think that we've still – we've got a strong growth story there that we believe will continue.

I don't know if we've disclosed that but.

It's.

Obviously, a really important part and continues to grow and again across.

The market Alliance partners that I talked about there is still a lot of room to grow that further so yes.

Yes, I don't know that we've disclosed that percentage.

But it is still it's growing vibrant and we really think that from the feedback that we get because of I talked about the some of the customer service initiatives that we've implemented on the buyer side, we're getting a lot of really good feedback and we're using that to sort of further enhance.

But the services and the products that we offer both our domestic and our international buyers and we really think that we still we've got a strong growth story there that we believe will continue.

Speaker 1: Okay, and just a final quick question as far as the model. I mean, you've done more purchase vehicles, you know, sequentially is is the longer term strategy really to go back to more of an agency model or are we sort of structurally thinking this is going to be more of a purchased model going forward, you know, in the three to five year basis.

Okay, and just a final quick question as far as the model I mean, you've done more purchase vehicles sequentially.

Is the longer term strategy really to go back to more of an agency model or are we sort of structurally thinking this is going to be more of a purchased model going forward.

Three to five year basis.

Speaker 2: No, I mean, we still strongly believe in the HG model. We believe that, you know, again, UK is a little different. There's some different dynamics there that we're going to, you know, particularly with the integration of SEMETIC, really take a harder look at. But I think in the US.

No I mean, we still strongly believe in the agency model, we believe that.

Again, the UK is a little different.

Some different dynamics, there that we're going to.

Particularly with the integration of synthetic really take a harder look at but I think in the U S. Some of the some of the purchase agreement is opportunistic we do see an opportunity.

Speaker 2: some of the purchase agreement is opportunistic. We do see an opportunity in certain markets to buy vehicles that we think we've got information that we can use to buy them right and to be able to sell them at a profit. So it's not a shifting of the whole market, it's really just being opportunistic and attacking a part that maybe we hadn't really looked at as closely in the past. And, sorry, great.

In certain markets to buy vehicles that we think we've got information that we can use to.

To buy them right and to be able to sell them at a profit. So it's not it's not a shifting of the whole market, it's really just being opportunistic in.

Attacking a part that maybe we hadn't really looked at is closely in the past.

Okay and then thank you sorry, Greg.

Go ahead, operator, thank you Pat.

Speaker 4: No worries. The next question we have comes from Chris Bottigrelli from BNP Barabbas Exsane. Chris, please go ahead. Your line is now open.

The next question, we have comes from Chris, particularly from BNP Paribas Exane crisp.

Chris. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker 11: Hopefully we could zoom out a little bit on industry volumes, like there's just a lot of noise with market share, hurricanes, extra week, you name it.

Yes, hopefully get Hey, Hey, Jim.

Hopefully, we could zoom out a little bit on industry volumes like there's just a lot of noise with market share Hurricanes extra week you name it.

Speaker 12: acquisitions. Can you kind of give us a sense for where salvage industry market volume is today versus pre-COVID? And if you don't have that, can you frame where your volume is kind of like, I don't know, on some adjusted basis, x top customer, like where are we versus prior peak?

Acquisitions.

Can you kind of give us a sense for where salvage industry market volume is today versus pre COVID-19 and if you don't have that give framework your volume is kind of like.

I don't know some adjusted basis ex top customer like where are we versus prior peak. So we're trying to get to.

Speaker 10: Yeah. I mean, I think that the overall industry volume based on, you know, what we see from CCC and just a growing car park, I think if you kind of combine all those things, I mean, I think we've seen growth in the market over the last couple of, you know, obviously pandemic, there was some noise in there, but if you kind of go pre pandemic, maybe even back to the spin, there has been growth in the market.

Yes.

Think that the.

Overall industry volume based on what we see from CCC and just a growing car park I think if you kind of combine all those things I mean, I think we've seen growth in the market over the last couple.

Obviously, a pandemic there was there was some there was some noise in there, but if you kind of go pre.

<unk>, maybe even back to the spin there has been growth in the market.

Speaker 2: It's been, as I said, uneven, but I do think for the...

It's Ben.

As I said uneven, but I do think.

For the reasons that.

Speaker 2: that we've talked about, and particularly as we go forward, things like.

That we've talked about and particularly as we go forward things like that.

Speaker 2: You know, the increasing complexity of vehicles that are repair costs continue to go up, even kind of excluding, you know, maybe some short term inflationary issues that we're all dealing with, you know, the fundamentals that we see in the in the long term prospect of total loss frequency, we still think is a positive. We still think that overall the market's going to continue to grow for a combination of the things that that I just talked about.

The increasing complexity of vehicles that are repair costs continue to go up even kind of excluding.

So maybe some short term inflationary issues that we're all dealing with.

The fundamentals that we see in.

In the long term.

Prospect of total loss frequency, we still think is a positive we still think that overall the market is going to continue to grow for a combination of the things that I just talked about.

Speaker 12: gotcha okay and then um any more any way any way for you to further parse the hurricane impact like it's just really messy it's i mean i don't know how i'm gonna model this to be candid like you know what's like how much of the volume still left how much was processed in q4 i think you gave the margin rate edwin but it's hard to do anything with that is there anything you can give us to help us kind of like put

Got you, Okay and then.

Any more anyway any way for you to further parse the hurricane impact I guess.

Really messy, it's I don't know how in the model just to be candid.

Yes.

Like how much of the volumes still left how much was processed in Q4 I think you gave the margin rate headwind, but it's hard to do anything with that is there anything you can give us to help us.

Like parse this out a little bit better.

Yes.

Speaker 3: You know, I guess the way to think about it, right, is that it's basically affecting us for a total of three-quarters. We had an impact in Q3, which we disclosed. The biggest impact is in Q4, the $6.4 million. And there'll be a small impact.

Okay.

Yes.

The way to think about it right is that it is basically affecting us for a total of three quarters, we had an impact in Q3, which we disclosed the biggest impact is in Q4, the $6 $4 million and there'll be a small impacting Q1 as we move through the remainder.

Speaker 3: Q1 as we move through the remainder of the vehicles. Over 50% of the vehicles we took in from the CAT have been sold at this point, but there is some in our inventory it will have some impact in Q1. And when we guided margins, when I mentioned that when you think about the cadence of margins, it's gonna be more of a negative year over year in the first half of the year than the back half, that's part of what's impacting the first quarter.

Of the vehicles.

Over 50% of the vehicles, we took it from the cat have been sold at this point, but there is.

Some of their inventory will have some impact in Q1, and when we guided margins when I mentioned that when you think about the cadence of margins, it's going to be.

More of a negative year over year in the first half of the year and in the back half that's part of what's impacting the first quarter, but we should we should.

Should be completely through the volume CDN.

Got you Okay. That's helpful. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4: Thank you Chris. Our next question comes from Gary Prestapino from Barrington Research. Gary, please go ahead.

Thanks, Greg Thank you Chris.

Our next question comes from Gary <unk> from Barrington Research Gary. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13: You know, John , it looks like, you know, the EBITDA margins on the acquisition are much, much less than what you generated in, you know, the base business. And understanding that you can't get your hands on it to integrate it, but, you know, I get it about 6.6% adjusted EBITDA margin. Where, once you integrate that, where do you think that goes?

Yes, good morning several questions.

John It looks like the <unk>.

The EBITDA margins on the acquisition are much much less than what you generated.

The base business.

And understanding that you can't get your hands on it to integrate it but.

I get it about six 6% adjusted EBITDA margin.

Once you integrate that where do you think that goes.

Speaker 13: uh, on a two to three year basis that EBITDA margin.

On a two to three year basis that EBITDA margin.

Yes.

Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, again, thanks Gary, we won the purchase agreement component of that business makes it hard to translate that EBITDA margin into our core business EBITDA margin, you got to almost think about it, maybe in dollars and try to apply that.

Yes, I mean again, thanks Gary.

One the purchase agreement component of that business makes it its hard to translate that EBITDA margin into our core business EBITDA margin almost think about it maybe in dollars and try to apply that.

Speaker 10: Even the 6.6 feels low from our... Yeah, Gary, we announced when we did the deal, it was a low double-digit EBITDA margin. It was 17 million pounds of EBITDA and about 154 of revenue. So it's low double-digits. Or was it the time of February ?

Even even the $6 six feels low from our yes, Gary we announced when we did the deal.

Low double digit EBITDA margin was 17 million pounds at EBITDA about $100 for revenue.

Low double digits or was at the time of acquisition.

Speaker 2: But nonetheless, we do see opportunities to.

But nonetheless, we do see opportunities to grow that business in the UK and leverage our existing.

Speaker 2: grow that business in the UK and leverage our existing business. And we do see synergy opportunities that was part of our thesis in buying it. We haven't talked about exactly what those are yet, but we do think again, if you separate the PA part of it, we do think it's going to be accretive and valuable to our overall performance going forward.

And we do see synergy opportunities.

That was part of our thesis in buying it.

We haven't talked about exactly what those are yet, but we do think again it would be separate but part of it we do think it's going to be.

Accretive and valuable to our to our overall performance going forward.

Speaker 13: Would would you say that there's a the thrust be to try and change a lot of these from non-purchase to agency agreements? Can you do that?

Would you say that there is.

The trust B to try and change a lot of these from non purchased agency.

Agreements can you do that.

Well we will.

Speaker 2: You know, all other things being equal, we'd rather be in an agency agreement, you know, for obvious reasons, but some of that is really market structure that, you know, we're going to compete there and we're going to put forward the best, the most appropriate bids that we can for business, you know, trying to convince carriers that, you know, maybe the agency model is better. But we're also...

All other things being equal, we'd rather being an agency agreement.

For obvious reasons, but some of that is really market structure that we're going to compete there and we're going to put forward the best.

The most appropriate that we can for business trying to trying to.

Convince carriers that maybe the agency model is better but we're also.

Speaker 2: you know, we're going to take advantage of the skill set that Cynetic brings to us to make the best decisions. Because, again, because of their flexibility in terms of...

We're going to take advantage of the skill set that synetic brings to us.

To make the best decisions, because again because of their flexibility in terms of.

Speaker 2: Being able to part some cars and to auction others, you know, that's something we're going to learn a lot about from them. That, you know, we're not quite sure what it's going to mean going forward and beyond the UK, but I think it is an intriguing business model that they have, and that was part of what attracted us to them.

Being able to park some cars to auction others.

Some we're going to learn a lot about from them.

We're not quite sure what it's going to mean going forward and beyond the U K, but I think it is an intriguing.

<unk> business model that they have in them that was part of what attracted us to them.

Speaker 8: Okay. With Synatec, do you have the increase in volume for the quarter, the increase in ARPU, and then what the increase in inventory would be?

Okay.

With Senate Tech do you have the increase in volume for the quarter the increase in <unk> and then what the increase in inventory would be.

Speaker 14: We haven't broken that up, Gary, separately. I mean, the revenue is kind of, think about what it was in the annual basis, directionally proportional to that.

We haven't broken that out Gary.

Separately.

The revenue is kind of think about where it was an annual basis directionally proportionate to that.

Okay. Thank you.

Thanks Kurt.

Speaker 4: Thank you, Gary. And that concludes the Q&A session. I would now like to pass the conference back over to Jon Kett, CEO , for closing remarks. Jon, please go ahead.

Thank you Gary.

The Q&A session.

Now I'd like to pass the conference back over to Joe <unk> CEO for closing.

Remarks, John Please go ahead.

Speaker 2: Well, thank you. And thank you all for your participation. You know, just in closing, you know, my enthusiasm remains unchanged about our ability to capitalize on the opportunities we have in front of us in 2022 and beyond. And I look forward to updating you on our progress as we go forward. So, thank you all and have a great day.

Well, thank you and thank you all for your participation just in closing my enthusiasm remains unchanged about our ability to capitalize on the opportunities that we have in front of us in 2022 and beyond and I look forward to updating you on our progress as we go forward. So thank you all and have a.

A great day.

Speaker 4: That concludes the IAA Incorporated fourth quarter 2021 earnings call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

That concludes the RIAA incorporated fourth quarter 2021 earnings call. Thank you for your participation you may now disconnect your lines.

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