Q2 2022 Sensient Technologies Corp Earnings Call
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I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Steve Rolfs. Please go ahead Sir.
Good morning, welcome to <unk> second quarter earnings call I'm, Steve Rolfs, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of <unk> Technologies Corporation.
I'm joined today by Paul Manning <unk>.
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer.
Earlier today, we released our 2022 second quarter financial results a copy of the release and our Investor presentation is available on our website at <unk> Dot Com <unk>.
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The adjusted results for 2021 removed the impact of the divestiture related costs. The results of the operations divested and the impact of the cost and income related to our operational improvement plan.
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Now, we'll hear from Paul Manning Thanks, Steve.
Morning, and good afternoon, we had a great second quarter with each group reporting outstanding revenue and operating profit growth.
This growth was in line with our expectations and occurred in almost all of our businesses across the company.
We achieved our eighth straight quarter of mid to high single digit revenue growth and our consolidated adjusted local currency EBITDA growth this quarter exceeded 25%.
Our performance this year follows a great year, we had in 2021.
Our top line growth is a direct result of our focus on sales execution technical support and product delivery.
We continued to deliver a high level sales wins, while working to expand our already strong sales pipeline.
We have proven to be a reliable supplier to our customers and with our exceptional technical support and robust product portfolio. We are well positioned for continued growth in the future.
As we've discussed on prior calls we are still experiencing increases in our input costs, including raw materials transportation energy and labor along with logistical delays.
We're addressing the input costs with pricing actions and we are addressing the logistical delays by maintaining a higher inventory position.
We expect these higher costs and supply chain challenges to continue throughout 2022 and into 2023.
There's a lot of uncertainty in the global economy as well as the concern about a potential recession.
Despite this uncertainty our sales order patterns remained strong our customer sample activity is healthy and we remain actively engaged with our customers.
We remain optimistic about the balance of the year and the future of our company.
Turning to our group results the color group had a spectacular second quarter group delivered 22% adjusted local currency revenue growth.
24% adjusted local currency operating profit growth.
Operating profit margin in the second quarter was 20%.
Food and pharmaceutical colors and personal care, both delivered double digit local currency revenue and double digit local currency operating profit into.
Operating income growth in the quarter.
A portion of the group's revenue increase was driven by a high single digit price increase.
Yeah.
The food and pharma businesses as before I performed very well in the first half of the year.
Business has a high level of new sales wins as a result of its innovative natural color portfolio and its focus on customer service I believe the business is well positioned for future growth.
Personal care business delivered double digit local currency revenue and double digit local currency operating profit growth in the second quarter.
The business continues to rebound well from the impact of COVID-19.
We are focused on building safety stock to support this rebound and the projected growth in this market.
The businesses focus on continued product line diversification into skin and body care as well as other categories is a key part of the business as current growth.
It also provides the foundation for growth in years to come.
With an outstanding first half the color group is now on track for the year to deliver double digit revenue growth and an operating profit margin at or above 20%.
Our previous guidance called for mid to high single digit revenue growth in 2022.
Over the long term I expect the color group to deliver mid single digit revenue growth and an operating profit margin at or above 20%.
The flavors and extracts group also had another strong quarter delivering 9% adjusted local currency revenue growth and 24% adjusted local currency operating profit growth.
This is the ninth consecutive quarter of mid single digit or better adjusted local currency revenue growth.
Our operating profit margin this quarter was 15, 9% up 210 basis points versus the prior year.
The higher adjusted local currency revenue growth in the group was primarily result of volume growth and pricing in flavors extracts and flavor ingredients as well as favorable pricing and natural ingredients.
Flavors extracts and flavor ingredients business had another nice quarter delivering double digit revenue growth.
As mentioned during our last few calls the natural ingredients business has faced a volume headwind in the first half of 2022 as we await the new onion crop.
The 2022 onion harvest is currently underway and we do expect improvement in the supply of onion as the year progresses.
Overall, the group's pricing was up 10% for the quarter.
Flavors and extracts group had a great first half of the year.
Now expected group to deliver high single digit revenue growth and operating profit margin improvement of approximately 100 basis points. This year.
Previously we had estimated a mid to high single digit revenue growth and a 50 to 100 basis points operating profit margin improvement.
The growth in the group's operating profit margin as a result of more sales wins, a focus on more value added product solutions and lower overall cost structure as a result of the group's past restructuring and diverse divestiture activities.
And recent pricing actions.
The group is well positioned for the future over the long term I still expect the flavors and extracts group to deliver mid single digit revenue growth and operating profit margin improvement of 50 to 100 basis points annually for the next couple of years.
In Asia Pacific onto that just a local currency basis. The group achieved its fifth consecutive quarter of high to double digit revenue growth and its sixth consecutive quarter of double digit operating profit growth.
Asia Pacific Group delivered 23% adjusted local currency revenue growth and 43% adjusted local currency operating profit growth.
The operating profit margin in the second quarter Rose 280 points to 27%.
The group grew revenue by double digits in almost all regions a portion of the group's revenue increase was driven by a mid single digit price increase.
The group continues to achieve a high level of new sales wins and is benefiting from the capital and technical investments we have made in the region.
The group is now on track to deliver double digit revenue growth for the year, our previous guidance called for a mid to high single digit revenue growth in 2022.
Over the long term I continue to expect the group to deliver mid single digit revenue growth.
Our growth is fueled by our high level of new sales wins across the company. These new wins span a range of product categories and offerings, including natural color conversions ice cream flavor solutions specialty natural ingredient blends and beverage flavors.
Our focus on product technologies and technical support is a critical component of these new sales wins.
Our ability to help our customers.
Great New products is the foundation for our growth now and into the future.
We've had a great 2022, so far we are well on track to meet and potentially exceed our full year guidance I remain optimistic about the year and the future of our business.
Steve will now provide you with additional details on our second quarter results.
Thank you Paul.
Since the second quarter GAAP diluted earnings per share was <unk> 92.
As I mentioned in our opening remarks, we do not have any adjustments to our GAAP results for the second quarter of 2022 last.
Last year's second quarter GAAP results include a divestiture and operational improvement plan costs, which decreased last year's second quarter results by approximately <unk> 16 per share.
In addition, our GAAP earnings per share in the second quarter of 2021 included approximately $2 2 million of revenue in one sense of cost related to the results of the divested operations. Our adjusted EPS in the second quarter of 2021 was 79 cents.
Excluding these items in our 2021 results our consolidated adjusted revenue in the second quarter of 2022 grew by 14, 9% in local currency to $371 7 million, our adjusted local currency EBITDA was up 26, 7%.
For the quarter and our adjusted local currency EPS was up 21, 5% for the quarter foreign currency exchange rates decreased adjusted earnings per share by approximately four cents in the second quarter.
We continue to make strategic investments in our inventory position, which is the main reason for our lower cash flow from operations in the quarter. We continued to invest in inventory to support the high demand we are experiencing and to ensure we have appropriate safety stock positions as supply chain and energy challenges.
Continue.
Capital expenditures were $19 7 million for the second quarter, we continue to expect our capital expenditures to be near 90 million this year.
Our debt to adjusted EBITDA is 2.0, our balance sheet remains well positioned to support our capital expenditure spend attractive M&A and our long standing dividend.
Regarding our 2022 guidance, we are maintaining our reported GAAP EPS guidance.
To increase at a high teen growth rate compared to our 2021 reported GAAP EPS of $2 81.
At this time, we do not anticipate any material divestiture related costs or operational improvement plan cost in 2022.
On an adjusted basis, we are raising our revenue guidance to be up high single digits in local currency compared to our 2021 adjusted revenue our previous revenue guidance called for mid to high single digit growth in local currency.
Our 2022, adjusted EBITDA and EPS guidance, both call for high single to double digit growth in local currency.
We also expect our interest expense to be higher in the second half of 2022 versus 2021, and our tax rate to be approximately 24% for the full year.
As Paul mentioned earlier, we do believe we're operating at or above the top end of this guidance.
Based on current exchange rates, we now expect currency to be a headwind of approximately 17 cents for the last six months of the year and.
<unk> 23 for the full year of 2022.
Previously we had expected a headwind of approximately six cents for the last six months of the year and 12 for the full year of 2022.
This change in exchange rates impacts our reported GAAP results. However, the local currency adjusted guidance I just provided is not impacted by this currency headwind.
Thank you for participating on the call today, we will now open the call for questions.
Thank you.
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And the first question will be from Ghansham Panjabi from Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.
Yes. Thank you good morning, everyone. Good morning Ghansham.
Morning.
Just in terms of the color segment, which has obviously seen a very strong rebound in volumes I think you were up well into the double digits in the second quarter comparisons.
Comparisons are going to get a little bit more difficult <unk> onwards, and so can you give us a sense as to what you're embedding for volumes in that segment during the back half of the year and then just more broadly Paul maybe for not just color, but also flavors and extracts.
Mobile consumer is starting to exhibit some level of elasticity, just given the extent of inflation and so on.
How does that sort of manifested as it relates to your conversations with your customers as it relates to new product development.
So for the first half or sorry for the first part of your question, we expect volume to be up in the second half in the color group.
Thank the success we've had.
Certainly the first half of this year and last year. It was very broad based natural colors synthetic colors.
Personal care each of our businesses has done quite well on a lot of different dimensions, and so we feel very very confident that we can continue to grow that volume.
It's noteworthy that cosmetics. The makeup segment, which I've talked about for the last couple of years. Since Covid that is just now kind of getting back to the level that we were going into COVID-19. So that gives me confidence that the volume can continue to grow our ongoing success in natural colors.
And our wins that we're generating there. It continues to give me confidence that we can grow volume.
And then of course.
You can fly much of this logic to the other groups as well.
As far as the global consumer is concerned you're right. There's certainly been indisputably a downturn in new product launches for 2022.
As we measured it during 2000 22021, new product launches overall were essentially flat to 2019 'twenty.
2022 again as we measure this has really been the first series of reductions and new product launches in the markets that we're serving so.
And that broad based across a number of different categories and so I think that.
But that is definitely something that we watch very carefully.
But I would tell you that our pipeline is very very strong.
The our.
Our commercial staffing is very very good and our pricing has been very very effective and successful up until now and so yeah I've got a great deal of confidence that we're going to continue this trend.
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Over here at our daily sales for Q3, which I have right in front of me and they continued to be quite strong and not only is it from the pricing that we've taken but it's also above and beyond that the volume growth that we're also generating.
Got you that's very helpful.
And then in flavors and extracts.
The issues with natural ingredients specific to two onions does that mean revert at some point as availability improves or is that you know.
The business that you lost.
Maybe the quarter. Prior is that just lost business or do you see that sort of mean, everybody higher and then related to that as it relates to cost inflation can you just update us as to how youre tracking it.
How are you tracking to COO and also your embedded expectations for the back half of the year.
Okay. So yeah in F&I, we had kind of previewed for a few quarters that that the first certainly the first half of this year, there is going to be a little bit of a volume constraint there.
We sold more than we thought we were going to sell in 2021 sort of a catastrophic success I suppose you could call that.
And then as we got into 2022 that that obviously continue that successful.
Series of wins with customers.
The harvest is underway I think things are looking good. So we certainly expect that situation in F&I as we previewed to improve in.
In the back half of the year, So I wouldn't necessarily say, we lost business in the first half of the year.
I think that I can look at our attrition rates throughout each of our businesses and in an S. N I for the first half of this year and I would tell you that our attrition rates are quite low in fact.
So I feel very very good as that volume comes to us to.
B in a scalable state for us.
The crop volume that we're going to have a very nice F&I year AR as we get into the end of this year and certainly as we get into 2023.
There is still a very very large market out there for us to generate new wins from in.
In the U S and Asia Pacific and a lot of different regions. So I see a lot of good long term prospects in that business and I think we have a very good approach to managing that crop moving forward with respect to ensuring that we get what we expect to get regardless of what yields may generate in any one field.
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With respect to the inflation comment.
If I understood you correctly Ghansham I think you're really getting at are we still seeing it in and do we intend to continue with with pricing.
The short answer is we continue to see inflation, although the positive there is I have seen it moderate in certain categories I had seen it run unabated and others I think net net though I'm optimistic that we may be approaching a peak in terms of the inbound inflation at least on.
Say raw materials, there, there's a lot of exceptions to that comment I just made.
But I think we are I think we're optimistic we can continue to manage that with pricing and so we have been very very close with our customers on this end.
And a lot of communication on the topic pricing is not an easy thing to execute it's not like you say well just go take pricing guys. You can't just go take pricing guys. Because you if you do this incorrectly and.
And haphazardly, you're going to lose a lot of business and you're going to irritate a lot of customers and so there is a process that we use.
That I think we're going to continue to use as needed moving forward and I feel very confident that it's going to continue to manifest itself in an improved economic situation year over year.
Okay very thorough thank you so much okay. Thanks Ghansham.
And the next question will be from Heidi <unk> from Exane BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.
Good morning.
Alrighty.
Question I'm wondering why you didnt upgrade your constant currency profit guidance.
Our strong first half and you talked a little bit about Q3 already and you sound very optimistic so why the caution is there something that worries you. That's the first question.
So I think our profit guidance is high single to double digit and.
Yeah, I think that's a certainly that there's a broad range that could be described as double digits I guess that could go all the way up to about 90% growth. So.
The lower end continues to be high single digits I feel very confident about that.
But certainly there is a very expandable dimension to double digit I think when you get into the double digits as gets a little bit.
Difficult to describe whereas you have low single digit mid single digit and high single digit for a single entity your growth rates when you get into double and ensure there is no such analogy that I'm aware of so I guess the short answer is we feel really good about profit.
I feel really good about our probability of achieving within the high singles to potentially very high double digit growth.
And so I think maybe it's harder to show.
Hi.
Levels within double digit that would communicate our confidence, but I would tell you that we feel very very good about that.
It sounds like Youre more optimistic than last quarter actually it's not obvious in the double digit because at the same time, but yeah. As you say, it's a broad broad range. Okay. That's helpful.
And then maybe to follow up on the earlier question on pricing and inflation I think last time, you had said the assumption is mid single digit.
So what's your current thinking on those two points is it still mid single digits.
I think it's yes as you go buy a RASM looking here by region and again, we do this on cost of goods sold so we talk about pricing on the basis of revenue, we talk about costs on the basis of cost of goods sold so.
For example, I mentioned that colors had sort of a mid to high single digit price increase.
And that was on high single to double digit input costs and that would be a Q2 year to date, it's a little bit.
More like high single.
So I think it's probably gone up a touch since the last quarter, where we were more kind of mid single digits across the board now it's more like I'd say on average high single digit increase in input cost, which would necessitate where we are on pricing kind of a high single.
Digit price increase to it.
Ensure we are working to maintain if not even improve our gross margin in each one of the groups and I think you saw that play out.
Each one of the group's operating profit margins were up by <unk>.
Very impressive levels.
And so I would think that as we go into Q3 I wouldn't anticipate flavors is going to be up 210 basis points again.
And I think though that color can be in that 20 in Asia Pacific can be in that 20 plus category.
The flavors continues to make that very nice.
Proven and that margin. So we certainly feel really good about their chances of achieving that that improvement this year as they have in each of the last couple of years.
So yeah I think in short, it's probably the input costs have gotten a little bit greater.
And I think this is very very very much I'm, hoping.
That's sort of the peak of where we could expect these input costs to go.
Thank you and maybe a final one before I pass on to the next person so any color.
So volumes were up double digits.
Can you explain again, how you achieve that if the market is not growing at double digit rates right. So what is there like a big conversion project or anything specific that we should be aware of.
Well you're right. The the market is actually down in the vast majority of categories Nowadays, whereas categories may be up on a sales dollars.
Majority of that we track are down on a unit basis or a volume basis. So yeah.
Yeah, even in that negative environment colors executed at a double digit volume increase and.
They they do really well they really focus commercially they are very focused on their customers and their pipeline.
And they have a very disciplined approach to selling.
We still think it's important to go to customers and so we're very focused on customers customer service.
Yeah, there have been some meaningful conversions of synthetic colors. They've also been a lot of meaningful wins that I think we've been able to capitalize around the world and so yeah.
I think their execution has been absolutely outstanding.
Okay.
Thank you I'll get back in line, Okay. Thanks Heidi.
And the next question is from Mitra Ram go Paul with Sidoti. Please go ahead.
Yes, hi, good morning, and thanks for taking the questions.
Charles I just wanted to hi.
Just wanted to follow up first on pricing I'm, just curious obviously you've had great success implemented increase.
Increases to offset higher input cost, but just curious if you say you've had customers potentially walking away because you just agree.
I agreed to.
Pricing concessions.
Yeah I think.
I think overall, we've been very successful in the definition of success is that you can implement what you need input.
And the customer can understand why that that increase is necessary and your customer can still be successful in his product line.
I think fundamentally the the economic insight when you look at the food ingredients business.
<unk> like <unk> is that our products are very impactful to the customers finished formulation and as finished product, but they're not the leading cost drivers of his finished product.
That said more plainly.
Colors don't necessarily cost a lot compared to other ingredients flavor is don't necessary cost a lot compared to other ingredients and so I think that gives us.
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At some level and some degree of flexibility, but again you have to find a situation thats going to work for your customer because you said it perfectly otherwise youre going to start losing business.
If you go there with an arrogant in your face. So you got to take it. This is what's happening you don't provide information.
You may not lose it today, but you're going to lose it at some point and you're certainly going to lose it longer term. If you don't D escalate some of that pricing in.
In the face of some deflationary environments for some of the commodities that in some cases actually we are already seeing so pricing is a very dynamic situation.
And you've got to be very very close to your customers. On this this isn't just go send a letter and hey, everything should work out it takes a lot of time it takes a lot of effort.
And so I think we've done that very very successful in each of our groups because we've taken that type of approach.
Okay, No that's very helpful. Thanks.
And then on the Cola segment, you talked about.
Diversifying into.
A lot of categories skincare body care et cetera, just curious.
In terms of how are you.
Plan on achieving that is it going to be products developed organic or M&A.
Part of that too.
Well I suppose the answer is it could be both for right now for the here and now what it's been is largely an organic effort stemming from the fact that there's a lot of customers out there that we.
We can continue to be successful with there are a lot of new customers out there for us to to grow with.
We have a continued very good new product introduction program and the group, where we are adding interesting performance driven regulatory a friendly types of products to arm our customers. So that they can be successful in the market and so I think largely the effort.
And in personal care is going to continue to be organic from the time for the time being.
As the M&A market changes, we'll see right. There is are these markets move in cycles. This has been a long cycle.
Perhaps there's a cycle, where where certain things not only within personal care, but in food ingredients in general.
Can be had for a reasonable multiple.
Inorganic maybe become a bigger part of that picture, but I think for the short term in personal care I would anticipate it's largely going to be an inorganic and organic effort.
Okay, No that's great.
Thanks.
More broadly on M&A, it's been a year or so since you acquired solutions.
It throws off.
The M&A pipeline, what are you seeing as it relates to maybe valuations and opportunities given the.
Volatile environment, we're seeing.
Well you know I guess, there's sort of two halves of that coin mixture on one hand, it could be and find the right type of company.
<unk> a good relationship with that company and really find a win win where they can be rewarded for their great business that they build and.
And you can be rewarded with a reasonably and logically priced asset that you can then grow and invest in further oh, that's a great one and so I think MSI was a very good example of that for us last year.
These are we have several of these in the pipeline now.
Now there's another part of that coin too, which in my opinion is a little bit a.
Little bit of a different picture. These are businesses, where EBIT dies being carved out of thin air and added mysteriously to bottom lines and then applying a rather.
General multiple creating a situation where in my opinion, it's very easy to overpay for a business nowadays and so I think with interest rates rising.
And perhaps a return to fundamentals and our future.
I could think there there maybe there's a little bit less of that in our future, but I still think theres some of that out there but.
But we are very much focused we're kind of.
Fairly straightforward, we stick to our knitting, we stick to the fundamentals.
And revenue and profit and sort of make valuations accordingly things that are technically driven that can fit into our portfolio that we can invest in that are good cultural fits.
And so that's a high threshold and so but we wanted to get it right I think our.
Our investors our shareholders would like us to do that I think my employees would like me to do that too that we can actually acquire something that we can integrate grow together and have a seamless transition.
So it's a tough tough set of criteria that I've I've got there, but I think that's the right criteria for the long term.
Okay, No that's great. Thanks, again for taking the questions.
Okay. Thanks Mitra.
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Next question is from David Greene from Bolt Haven. Please go ahead.
Hi, Steve Hi pool.
So David or David.
Yeah, a couple for me much appreciate it.
Okay.
On the <unk> side, you had talked about the headwinds and.
On the in an onion supply.
And.
From memory.
The headwind in Q1 was about 500 basis points.
I was just wondering for Q2 specifically.
<unk> got headwinds.
Now looks like is it sort of a slightly diminished.
And any indication you can give us some color on what kind of type of thing that might have been in the second quarter.
Yeah, So I would say flavors and extracts you kind of look at the what we call the traditional flavors the flavor ingredients and F&I. So those are sort of the three pieces of the pie that we discuss in the flavors and extracts group.
The flavors and extracts and flavor ingredients had very nice revenue had volume growth I think they did quite well.
The F&I piece as we mentioned what was overall a little bit of the volume headwind there for the group.
And again stemming from the timing of the crop and then the factors that I mentioned earlier, so I think that picture improves here in Q the second half of 2022.
Having more product I think we would then see overall for the flavor as group an improving situation on the volume front and in a in a continued very strong and robust.
Top line growth.
So that's a I think.
Ultimately, it's kind of a first half second half second half improving.
Which then ride very nicely into 2023, we would be in a much more favorable crop position in the first half of 2023, obviously versus the first half of 2022. So in theory that you'd be thinking about that as a potential nice tailwind for them next year.
Yes.
And so any sort of any color on that.
Headwinds.
There might have been in the second quarter from a from a semi specifically.
No nothing beyond what I said, I mean, it's really a headwind generated from the <unk>.
The catastrophic success, we enjoyed last year with it and and just wait.
Waiting for God to run its course on growing onion I guess.
Okay.
Yes.
Great. Thank you.
I guess I'm, just sort of trying to understand the moving parts.
Uh huh.
In terms of.
What you've delivered in the first half in terms of constant currency right. So you were 11, 6%.
And then your guidance is obviously for high single digit top line. So the full year. So that obviously implies a fairly significant deceleration in the second half.
So any any reason for that or it's just uncertain conditions and the need to pay a little bit conservative.
Yeah.
Well I think.
Kind of give you some early reads on Q3.
I look here again at July August September things look pretty good across each of the groups. So.
There's no waning and my confidence for Q3, I guess in about another week or two we will get an even better read on Q4. So no I don't think I don't think there's a tremendous diminishment in anything in the second half I think our pricing will continue certainly we'll lap some of the pricing.
The modest amount that we put in place last year second half.
But I think with the volume situation improving in the flavor group as I described the continued very nice volume growth in colors.
It's a very nice volume growth in Asia, along again with their pricing improvements yeah, I think it's going to be a really great second half and again high single digits or double digits.
Very big universe of double digit numbers out there and so you know I don't want folks get hung up on why didn't we raise profit guidance.
How do I raised double digit like really big double digits versus medium that we don't really have that that that division. So, let's just say we feel really good about the back half I feel great about the back half and I think you're going to be very very happy.
Thank you.
And.
Just a couple more very quick questions if I can jewelry.
Thanks, a lot.
<unk>, obviously had a very strong quarter again, and you specifically called out pharmaceuticals, and cosmetics is driving that.
Any more sort of color on those specific key in terms of.
Is that new wins or any any other specifics.
Yeah. So let me let me just correct that a little bit the color group showed broad based growth. So we're talking food colors, and whether you're talking about natural colors synthetic colors coloring foods, we had broad growth personal care, we had broad based growth across <unk>.
Products geographies.
Et cetera, and then of course pharma, which we grouped with the food colors.
Well that tells that story, so yeah, very very good growth across the board from new wins.
Growth in existing customers new customers.
A little bit of that coming from pricing.
But yeah, there's there's great momentum and colors, that's for sure and again I think that that there were set up very very nicely for the back half and into 2023 right. I think there's a lot of good momentum going into 2023 for the company across each of our groups.
Okay.
That's great and then just final question for me was on I mean, you mentioned that was very interesting, but cosmetics is now back to pre COVID-19 levels.
I was just interested to find out if there are any other parts of the business that all still below.
No it was and and even within cosmetics. It was just the makeup segment.
Alright is about half the revenue of that personal care piece.
But that was really the one.
Big kind of Covid lasting legacy part of our business I think the other businesses as you've seen over the last few years.
Have weathered COVID-19 exceedingly favorably.
Flavors colors, and then the balance of the personal care business. So.
No I think that's the only one.
Perfect. Many thanks, Okay. Thanks, David.
Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time I will turn the conference back over to the company for any closing remarks.
Okay. Thank you very much everyone and I made some comments towards the end of the script.
Regarding some some guidance and I would ask is as people you know update your models for the second half of the year. Please keep those in mind I'll just repeat those quickly.
For the full year, we expect our tax rate to be at about 24% I commented on interest expense. So in the first half of the year interest expense was down versus prior year, but with the raising rates in the second half of the year, we do expect.
Interest expense will be above the prior year level by about $3 million. So we expect to finish the year on interest expense at about $15 million and then the last comment I made was of course on foreign exchange. Most people are familiar with the strengthening of the dollar. So we had previously.
Expected, a 12% headwind, we now expect a two.
'twenty three cent headwind, so that incremental 11 heads.
Headwind really all falls in the second half of the year and so I would just ask that people keep.
Those three things in mind and I. Thank.
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