Q1 2022 Werner Enterprises Inc Earnings Call
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I would now like to turn the conference over to John Steel Order C. F. O. Please go ahead.
Earlier. This afternoon, we issued our earnings release with our first quarter results.
The release, along with the slide presentation are available in the investors section of our website at Warner Dot Com.
Today's webcast is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning later this evening.
Before we begin please direct your attention to the disclosure statement on slide two of the presentation as well as the disclaimers in our earnings release related to forward looking statements. Today's remarks contain forward looking statements that may involve risks uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Additionally, the company reports results using non-GAAP measures, which it believes provide additional information for investors to help facilitate the comparison of past and present performance a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in the tables attached to the earnings release and in the appendix of the Slide press.
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Now I will turn the conference over to Derek Leathers, our chairman President and CEO .
Thank you John and good afternoon. We appreciate you joining our call today I'm excited to share another quarter of excellent financial results.
I am very proud of our Warner team for achieving strong top and bottom line growth in the first quarter for both our truckload and logistics segments first let's move to slide four and level set our business.
Truckload transportation services or TTS has over 8200 trucks with a fleet mix of 63% dedicated and 37% one way truckload.
Warner has a consumer oriented freight base with over three quarters of our revenues in the retail and food and beverage verticals.
Within the nearly 60% of our business that is retail Warner focuses on discount retailers and home improvement with name brand customers that have extremely high on time delivery expectations. These winning customers are growing their market share and Warner continues to grow with them.
Three of our top five customers are discount retailers that perform well in economic markets when consumers place even higher priorities for value the.
The other two customers in our top five are industry, leading home improvement and beverage companies.
Five of our top 11 customers are in discount retail or food and beverage and they shipped consumer nondurable goods would repeatable freight that is less sensitive to changes in the business cycle compared to durable goods.
As validation of our superior service performance during the last year Warner was honored to receive carrier of the year awards from four of our top five customers in seven of our top 15.
Let's move to slide five for a summary of our financial performance.
For first quarter revenues increased 24% to $765 million adjusted EPS grew 40% to 96 a share and.
And adjusted operating income rose, 37% to $86 2 million.
For the seventh consecutive quarter, we achieved record quarterly adjusted EPS.
Dedicated is our largest business unit within TTS dedicated has nearly 5200 trucks and achieve 5% truck growth year over year.
Dedicated continues to thrive and grow with strong demand from our long term core customers, we consistently deliver high service and engineered solutions to meet their complex shipping requirements and we continue to have a good pipeline of dedicated bid activity with new and existing customers.
One way truckload has roughly 3000 trucks and grew its fleet by 7% year over year.
One way truckload experience strong freight demand in January and February , which then moderated a bit in March but still ranks very good relative to our historical March freight trends.
Werner logistics continues to execute on its strategic plans and produced another strong quarter with significant growth in revenues and operating income.
Economic uncertainties are increasing with inflation interest rate tightening and the effects of the war in Ukraine, including higher fuel prices, our business model is well positioned to adapt perform and even prosper in disrupted markets.
During the first quarter procuring new trucks and trailers has been challenging and we were not able to receive our full allotment.
We are having frequent discussions with the Oems to plan and coordinate our new truck deliveries based on the very difficult challenges. They are dealing with for semiconductor chips component parts labor and other issues.
We are ensuring we get our full allotment of new trucks to minimize the impact on maintenance production service and improve driver satisfaction and.
In first quarter, the used equipment pricing market remained very strong and our fleet sales team performed well, we sold fewer trucks and trailers than we did a year ago due to the OEM challenges.
Equipment gains were $20 5 million in first quarter compared to $21 2 million in fourth quarter, and $10 5 million in first quarter a year ago.
On the cost side inflationary pressures are challenging, particularly for driver and non driver compensation equipment maintenance and insurance and claims we are effectively managing these costs without compromising the highest level of safety and service for our customers.
Now I'd like to turn the call over to John to discuss our financial results in more detail John .
Thank you Derek and good afternoon.
On slide seven.
First quarter revenues increased to 148 million to $765 million with 6% truck Rouse higher freight rates increased fuel surcharges and strong logistics revenue growth.
TTS revenues per truck per week increased eight 8%.
Adjusted operating income increased 37% to $86 2 million as a result of 24% revenue growth and 110 basis points of margin expansion.
Segment, our adjusted operating income grew 33% in TTS and 158% and logistics.
First quarter, we grew adjusted EPS by 40%.
Here on slide eight are the results for our TTS segment.
TTS revenues increased by 21% due to 15% higher rates and $32 million of increased fuel surcharges, partially offset by 5% lower miles per truck.
Miles per truck change was due to a lower length of haul, resulting from our ECM Regional fleet acquisition in July higher driver turnover fewer team drivers and the January impact of on the card.
Pts improved its adjusted operating ratio net of fuel by 220 basis points to an 83 six.
Now, let's turn to TTS fleet metrics for dedicated and one way truckload on slide nine.
Dedicated revenues net of fuel increased 13% average trucks increased 5% from growth with existing and new customers revenue per truck per week increased seven 3% due to rate increases to support driver pay and other cost increases.
One way truckload revenues net of fuel increased 19% average trucks increased 7% revenue per truck per week rose, 11% due to a 28% increase in rate per mile partially offset by an eight 1% decline in miles per truck for the reasons previously discussed.
Spot freight is a small portion of our one way network is about 90% of our one way truckload freight is committed contract business with our customers.
Contract rate increases so far this year are averaging in the low double digit percentages.
As the one way freight market moderated in March from the hugely over book to significantly over booked our truck mileage productivity began to improve with a less disruptive and smoother flowing network.
Driver pay per company mile in first quarter increased 13% year over year, a reduction from the fourth quarter year over year increase of 22%.
During the month of March the price of diesel took a roller coaster ride and ended the month about 80 cents a gallon higher than it started our surcharge programs effectively mitigated most of these volatile fuel price trends.
During the month of April diesel increased by another 75 cents.
Moving to slide 10 here as more information to better understand our dedicated fleet and.
In dedicated we provide trucks trailers and drivers exclusively for a specific customer typically for a retail distribution center or manufacturing plant Warner.
Warner is one of the four largest dedicated fleets in the U S.
What are dedicated serves customers with extremely high service and safety requirements typically executing shorter length of haul shipments in local and regional markets. The superior consistency and reliability of our dedicated on time service provides our customers with high predictability for their inventory to help them avoid out of stocks.
Prizes for their customers.
Our dedicated drivers have more predictable routes and narrow our geographic markets, which increases their satisfaction with a higher frequency of home time.
Many of our dedicated customers require specialized driver training multi stop deliveries and driver assistance with the unloading process.
We are generally paid for all miles in dedicated with steady and stable revenue streams through weekly adjustments based on truck productivity.
Our dedicated fleet has steadily grown over the last 13 years with a customer retention rate of over 95%.
Four of our five largest customers have been in the top five every year for the last 10, highlighting the long term relationship nature of our business.
Warner Office Associates, and professional drivers developed strong relationships with our customers and create solutions that become deeply integrated into our customers' transportation and logistics networks, resulting in our supply chain strategy that creates a competitive advantage.
Two thirds of our dedicated business is retail distribution center to store and two thirds of that business is discount retail.
Historically, these discount retailers perform better than the competition and slower growth economies when their customers have less discretionary income to spend and as they look to trade down for value for their non durable goods purchases.
Dedicated revenue per truck per week has grown each of the last five years, demonstrating the high stability and durability of our service product and customer base. As a result of these factors Werner dedicated operates with more attractive and less variable operating margins in all economic conditions.
If we experience a moderation of freight market trends the size strength and customer base of Warner dedicated places us in a strong competitive position.
Let's compare our superior relative financial performance in the last freight moderation period of 2019.
The strong freight market of 2018, where it was only one of a few truckload carriers that produced earnings per share growth in 2019 versus 2018.
Moving to slide 11 is a deeper dive for our premium truck and trailer fleet, we expect and buyer tracks with advanced safety and comfort features to assist our drivers and provide for superior resale value when our experienced fleet sales team re markets our equipment.
We've been in the business of selling our premiums back to used trucks and trailers in the aftermarket for 30 years, we typically sell our trucks at an age of four to four and a half years in an industry with an average truck age of five six years and climbing our experienced fleet sales team has a clear understanding of the market and the needs of our.
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They used truck and trailer market achieved high pricing levels in recent quarters due to record freight demand and limited new equipment availability.
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Although it is difficult to predict the timing of when the supply and demand for used trucks and trailers moves back into balance we expect equipment gains per unit will decline from current levels and return to more normalized levels based on our gains history.
When this occurs we expect to increase the number of trucks and trailers, we sell to a more normalized run rate, we expect less pressure on the maintenance expense line and we anticipate improved driver satisfaction and retention with a newer fleet.
Moving to Werner logistics on slide 12, and first quarter total logistics revenues in the quarter grew 37% to 189 million.
Truckload logistics revenues increased 46% driven by a 24% increase in revenue per shipment and a 19% increase in shipments.
We're only in project business continued to generate strong revenue growth to support our customers in a capacity constrained market.
And grew revenues and shipments by 76% and 48% respectively.
Intermodal revenues grew 29% supported by a 37% increase in revenue per shipment and a 6% decrease in shipments.
What are the final mile revenues increased $18 1 million, primarily due to our November final mile acquisition of nets.
Werner logistics produced a $5 6 million or 158% improvement of adjusted operating income to $9 2 million, resulting from strong revenue growth and 230 basis points of adjusted operating margin expansion.
On slide 13 is a summary of our cash flow from operations net capital expenditures and free cash flow over the past five years expanded operating margins and less variable net capex resulted in higher free cash flow. During the last four years, we expect to continue to generate meaningful free cash flow going forward.
We reduced our net capex guidance for 2022 by $25 million on the top and bottom end of the range due to our expectations for lower new truck deliveries.
On slide 14 is a summary of our disciplined strategy for capital allocation. Our first priority for capital continues to be reinvesting in our fleet with newer trucks and trailers with the latest safety driver friendly and fuel efficient technologies during.
During first quarter, we purchased $36 $2 million of our stock or one 3% of diluted shares.
We remain committed to maintaining a strong and flexible financial position in March we expanded our debt capacity with our existing bank group from 600 million to 800 million to provide us more flexibility when the right capital allocation opportunity presents itself.
Our long term leverage goal is a net debt to annual EBITDA ratio up 0.5 to one times, we ended the quarter with a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.5 times.
That concludes my remarks, and I'll now turn it back over to Derek for his remaining comments.
Thank you John move.
Moving to slide 16 during first quarter the age of our newer truck and trailer fleet increased slightly it continues to be more challenging to receive new trucks and trailers and we've intentionally reduced the number of trucks and trailers, we sell to enable us to meet our free commitments within our customers since last quarter. We made good progress expanding our targeted driver School network.
Three more locations, bringing our total to 22, our schools continue to perform well and produce highly trained graduates in our competitive driver market.
These drivers are enabled to further develop their skills with a certified an experienced leader.
Throughout the first quarter technology enhancements continue to drive better communication processes and results for our drivers customers carriers and non driver associates.
Our drive Warner Pro App is improving our drivers' experience by providing them with a single portal to view all the information they need to be safe and successful with the ongoing improvements to our digital load Board Warner edge for carriers, we provide alliance carriers with 24, seven access to freight and we experienced 380% load growth compared to the same quarter a year ago.
We continued the rollout of our Warner edge Tms platform across our logistics network and are now live in all logistics offices in the U S and Canada.
Looking ahead investments in emerging cloud technology, including cyber security predictive maintenance safety and sustainability remain a top priority.
Finally during first quarter, we completed the new Warner Edge Innovation Center at our Omaha headquarters.
Now moving to slide 17 here are the ESG developments for the quarter.
Last month, we launched a commercial pilot with autonomous truck company Aurora innovation to test their technology in a freight lane between Fort worth in El Paso during.
During the first quarter, we launched our Warner Blue Task Force with senior leadership Associates and members of our board to expand our ESG program.
We established a pilot program with three large suppliers to use analytics for predictive maintenance and improving our fuel M. B G.
And we took significant proactive steps to further strengthen our cyber security and compliance.
Now, let's move to slide 18, and a review of our performance versus our 2022 guidance metrics.
During first quarter, our TTS fleet declined by 115 trucks sequentially from year end in line with typical fourth quarter to first quarter seasonal patterns.
Higher driver turnover and the impact of the I'm, a cranberry and in January were also contributing factors.
For the year.
Our 2% to 5% fleet growth guidance remains unchanged.
Net capital expenditures in first quarter were $37 million, we anticipate our full year net capex range of $250 million to $300 million.
Dedicated revenue per truck per week increased seven 3% in first quarter ahead of our expectations due to customer rate increases to offset inflationary cost pressures.
For the year, we expect this metric will grow in the 4% to 6% range.
One way truckload revenues per total mile for the first quarter increased 28% above our first half guidance due to a strong freight market and customer support to keep up with inflation.
For second quarter, we expect our one way truckload revenues per total mile to increase in a range of 14% to 17% over the same period last year.
In April freight demand trends in our one way truckload unit, where similar to March and a very good based on our historical April freight history.
Our income tax rate in first quarter was 24, 1% for the full year, we are reaffirming our effective tax rate of $24 five to 25, 5% and we expect the average age of our truck and trailer fleet at year end to be two 2% and four eight years respectively.
Truckload freight has moderated from extremely high levels to very good levels in the past several weeks within our one way truckload fleet, while dedicated customer demand remains strong.
We expect the supply side to remain tight due to a competitive driver market and ongoing OEM challenges for the production of new trucks and trailers.
Retail inventory levels begin to increase in recent months, however inventory to sales ratios remain at historically low levels.
There is a significant amount of retail inventory in transit on ships or stuck in warehouses due to ongoing supply chain bottlenecks.
In addition, we expect the last five weeks of Covid related shutdowns at the largest shipping port in the world is about to begin to impact freight with a potential big splash whenever that faucet gets turned back on and.
In recent weeks there are growing concerns about the direction of the economy in the framework.
Freight demand has begun to moderate from high levels. Our freight demand remained strong and dedicated and is very good in one way truckload industry.
Industry capacity continues to be limited by ongoing new truck production delays in a very competitive driver market.
We're very confident in our positioning with the stability of our dedicated and one way truckload freight base and our growing logistics segment.
The proven resilience of our durable business model and the superior value, we provide to our customers at this time I'd like to turn the call over to our operator to begin our Q&A.
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Our first question comes from Brian Olsen back with J P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hey, good evening, Thanks for taking the question I appreciate it.
Good evening Brian .
Hey, Derek maybe just sticking with you you mentioned the impact of China.
And when the faucet gets turned back on in your words do you think that actually has a negative impact here in the near future as things just don't arrive and the same cadence that we were seeing.
So I guess in a way it gets you perhaps gets a little bit worse before it gets better.
You're expecting is that our supply chain is a bit of a whiplash effect here.
Yes, I think it's a bit of.
I think the way I would think about it Brian is it's really part of the story of what we're already seeing in the marketplace today and there is a bit of a bubble thats taken place.
That explains at least partly.
Some of the.
Slowdown in freight overall.
I think though when you look at it.
Do you think about normal seasonality and whats about to take place as we get deeper into Q2.
And the uptick in freight that's happened year in and year out it's going to simply double down on that uptick.
Especially if the sportswear to clear or the.
The restrictions were to clear you would start to see these vessels in round, there's been a lot of conversations about things like towards clearing up and decongest in I would argue that that's much more related to the lack of inbound than it is to any kind of productivity gains that have taken place there's been conversations about west coast not being as strong as it was earlier in the year and it's hard to.
Strong when you've got.
500 ish vessels.
Depending on which data source you look at that are anchored in our offshore in China.
At some point that will move.
Best prediction would be late June arrival on the West coast at this point it could be extended further if the restrictions last longer but in the event that were to take place that will coincide exactly with the island I mean are you.
Labor negotiations and we've seen time and time again that best case that that translates to a slowdown in work productivity at the port worst case and actual stoppage. So we just think.
As you look out there is there is a lot of disruptive material out there to think about as.
As we try to analyze where Q2 and into Q3 could look like.
I think the takeaway is that we feel very well structured and set up as that plays out to be able to serve our customers and our shareholders alike.
Okay. Thanks for that Derek maybe a one follow up on the capacity side you.
You mentioned driver turnover is increasing a little bit if you can maybe elaborate on the reasons for that and just overall sort of your cost of marginal capacity, especially in the one way trucking side and where do you think that is for carriers, who obviously facing higher equipment costs.
Higher fuel higher maintenance all the other things that we've seen.
Where do you think the breakeven point or the tipping point, where maybe we start to see some of that capacity exit. The market is most of those carriers are more tied to spot.
Yes, I think it's a great question, Yeah, we did see a slight uptick in Q1, I think I'm gonna crowns and part of that and some of the pressures that has created I think in general there is the ongoing desire for people to continue to.
Search out and.
Find local and lifestyle jobs that are that are more conducive to the lifestyle. They want to lead we're building those jobs every day as we continue to expand dedicated.
So it's not meant to be a call out of an ongoing uptake are concerned we've already actually seen progress on that front, but it certainly impacted a little bit in Q1. When you think about the overall operational cost I would point more towards the industry as a total and I would get into specifics here only only in that over the last couple of years, we have.
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Absolute explosion of single vehicle registrants as new entities as they chase the spot market opportunities.
Opportunities and especially when it was inflated as high as it was and what they all have in common is they overpaid for equipment.
Made up to get drivers or to source. If they were to have more than one truck to source the drivers for those additional trucks.
They are bearing the brunt of overexposure to a spot market that has seen.
Deflationary pressures over the last 90 days and in many cases are all in all in rates with fuel included while fuel was increasing dramatically. So I think the washout will be severe and I think the conversation about whether there is or isn't going to be a bloodbath. It's hard to ignore the fact that 90% of the industry's 20 trucks or less and there's going to be blood in the water at that.
Level, but that has very little to do or bearing on what we do for a living.
We were a large well capitalized fleet with much better cost controls, we didn't go out and buy dramatically more expensive used equipment market and chase spot rates with that equipment. We stay true to who we are we're more dedicated today than we were the last time we spoke.
We're more contractual today than we were the last time, we spoke were more defensible and so we think what happens in all of this is that in the event that spot market spot market continues to erode you have a faster and deeper cleansing of that small carrier capacity than we've seen in prior cycles, and thus you find a bottom quicker and renew.
All of the next level of tightness.
Comes along the cycle I've said, a couple of calls in a row and I think these cycles are faster.
And the bounce back is quicker than they used to be with the advent of all of this new technology and information. We think this one will play will play out that way.
Very aggressively but in the meantime, our portfolio sets us up extremely well to perform.
With strong results in the interim.
Great. Thanks for all the details there I appreciate it.
Thank you.
The next question is from Brandon <unk> with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hey, Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question I guess following up on that Derek and this is maybe semantics, but you guys characterize the market as being very good now versus the strong previously.
I mean, both those sounds great to me. So can you maybe quantify that change in language.
Well, yes, I think what gets under appreciated is that at the end of the day.
That work is 60% retail within that retail network is predominantly discount retail.
The balance of some of the largest customers that arent discount retailer of home improvement that are doing extremely well.
We've recently looked out at our top 20 customers 16 of them I believe are publicly traded.
With an average revenue growth year over year, a 17% theyre doing very well.
That population of our customers are winning in their space and that's why we worked very aggressively to develop relationships with them.
So I think the.
The strong demand we have today is actually healthy.
It's hard to really articulate at least on a call like this but there is a point by which demand can be so strong that all it really results in is disruption and inefficiencies in your network as you are continuously.
Chasing your tail to cover freight and meet service expectations, whereby strong demand consistent strong demand and a balanced network allows you to start unlocking.
Advantages in utilization productivity overall driver satisfaction.
And honestly, just calm by which we manage the business in a more normalized market that is still strong. So I don't know I don't deny that there are carriers out there that may be suffering from a lack of demand if they were chasing load boards and spot market, but that's not the world or the palm that we fishing, where we're at.
Things still look pretty strong and in our conversations.
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Okay I appreciate that and I know you guys were highlighting the more defensive characteristics of your business. I mean can you talk about volatility of dedicated rates and how that contract cycle works.
Yes, so the contract cycle and our dedicated contracts ranges traditionally from three to five years with annual rate adjustments or rate mechanisms in place.
Those customers above all else value service.
And really place a premium on the need to have a mature provider with with with complex modeling capabilities.
And an absolute conviction around on time service.
So with that batch of customers as you work with them and talk to them.
Rate per mile or revenue per truck per week might be increasing but we might also becoming more efficient with that fleet and we often do year over year quarter over quarter, which mitigates the actual cost impact of them, but it allows us on a per truck basis to improve our results. We're going to continue down that path, we're going to continue to get deeper and deeper embedded with these customers. We think it's in their best interest. So we ask.
We believe and we can show metrics that support their financial self interest in doing so but at the same time it allows us to become more efficient with more reps Thats why we commented earlier on four of the five top customers in dedicated have been in the top five or 10 year straight years, because thats how integrated we are in their networks.
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The next question is from basketball majors with Susquehanna. Please go ahead.
Yes, thanks for taking my questions as we think about where this is going some of your competitors have been willing to talk about what the downside looks like in a deep recession or at least keep freight recession scenario.
Can you talk about your modeling maybe above and beyond just the margin ranges that you've given us historically.
Yes, it's a great question <unk>.
We have certainly modeled as we talked about on the last call a five year outlook and some some more aggressive growth goals, we've modeled for both down markets in up markets.
We do assume that youre going to continue to see some degree of slowdown.
At least all things being equal as we look forward.
But what we also have done has raised our margin guidance despite that modeling and so when we chose to raise our model or our guidance on margins for TTS, we did that with an eye towards where we were at in the cycle and what we believed we would be at the midpoint.
As we look forward right now.
The last trailing 12 months, we've averaged 16, 4% margin, which is at the high end of the new range.
The low end of that range is 12% and frankly, we don't have an eye right now towards the 12% and our future even with the various cases that we've modeled out through the down cycle.
So I'm not changing the overall range at this point, but we feel pretty confident that we can avoid that worst case scenario and that worst case scenario would be call. It a 25% ish type decline and we don't think that's in the cards based on the more defensive nature of the portfolio today, it's much more durable than it was in any prior cycle.
Not just in dedicated but even on the one way truckload side, we now have it at the right point in the cycle. We now have over a third of that network under long term agreements that we've spent many many quarters to setup.
Accomplish them.
They are fair and equitable for both sides, both the customer and us, but they do give us a degree of insulation as we look forward.
Thank you for that Derek can you just clarify the 25 ish percent decline you just referenced where you're talking to earnings there or something else.
Yes, I can jump in that was based on our last 12 months TTS margin running at 16, 4%.
If you took it all the way down to the 12% level, which we don't think it'll it'll go that low that would be a 27% decline in TTS margin from the current level.
We think we'll do better than 12% going forward. So that's the.
The estimate of roughly 25% reduction.
Thank you for that clarification.
Just one more if you'll if you'll let me.
Your largest customers talked some about in sourcing some of their supply chain.
You talked about getting through this contracting period, and where that stands and any risk to your share of that wallet going forward. Thank you.
We're heavily involved with those conversations with our customers, especially our largest customers and honestly. It's a collaborative effort. There is places where it makes more sense for them to in source pieces and parts of their network.
Whereby theres places that we are going to be better served.
To be positioned.
So these are collaborative discussions we don't view them as strengths at all as a matter of fact.
One of the very encouraging outcomes of some of that work has been.
It's easy to talk or tell people, it's raining outside but it's a lot easier for them to understand that when they get went a little.
So they have a much greater appreciation for OEM disruptions.
Driver availability the overall labor market when they go in they do some of those efforts the efforts still makes sense for them in certain applications, but most of those.
Our indications of customers, where we have a fairly large scale exposure to already.
They have strong growth goals as do we but we want to be very strategic on where we grow versus where it might be more beneficial for them to grow.
Okay. Thank you.
The next question is from Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Hey, Thanks afternoon guys.
Derek or are you seeing any impact at all on contractual negotiations at all in with the moderation in spot and maybe I know you guys have guidance for rate per mile.
In the second quarter, but any directional thoughts on and how you would maybe anticipate that would look like in the back half of the year.
Yes sure Scott.
So first of all level set by telling you. We've we've accomplished about 45% of our rate negotiations in Q1, there is roughly 25% of those that are ongoing in Q2, some of which are in the final they've either closed already or are imminent to close.
At this point no we have not would be the short answer is seeing really any inflection at all relative to what happens to the spot versus our contractual conversations.
90% of the spot data and the data the data that people really have their eyes toward is kind of load boards.
And that type of freight that live load live unload you call. We all kind of freight that's not indicative of the kind of freight that even we haul within that 10% spot that we that we do participate in.
So it really is a market within a market I don't think it's surprising personally that you've seen the kind of decline in that market. If you have.
180000, plus or whatever the number is of new registrants, all generally speaking with one or two trucks chasing an elevated spot market in arriving at the party at the very time that things start to return to more normalized levels youre going to end up in a situation where both two things happen shippers have aggressively moved freight out of this.
What market into contractual markets with carriers like Werner so the spot population of freight has decreased right at the time all of these new arrivals showed up so.
So that's a that's a risky game to play and that's why we don't we don't participate heavily in that market and specific to the load board market, we don't participate at all.
So Canada enter the conversation later in the year, perhaps we know that in general it doesn't at the type of freight we offer anywhere from three to six months and then it takes another three to six months to see some level of impact by the time you get there in our estimation you will have already seen pretty significant washout.
From these carriers that have got himself overexposed on the cost side in an overexposed in spot and so we think the bounce back could have much more happened much more quickly.
And after these two years of extreme volatility of the last thought I'll leave you with the shippers have I'd say more than past cycles really look for stability and they need to count on some anchor stores so to speak within their network that they know will deliver as expected we'll be there every day that we'll invest back.
The fleet.
And they might push the envelope around other edges, but we're not seeing that in the types of dialogues, we're having at this point.
Okay. Thanks, and then just.
Follow up any sort of directional thoughts on margin progression relative to that 83 six in trucking in Q1, and if youre not willing to go on margins just totally separate any update on power on the thank you.
Yeah, well I'll start on the easier one power on these very.
It's something that's a real bright spot in our network right now we're excited about where that's headed.
We talked about power only revenue growth of 76% in the quarter I think that number will continue to have legs. As we go forward, we're gaining traction in adding amenities to that program and structure.
Make it more beneficial to be in that power only community at Warner.
We're treating those carriers as well and I think we're seeing more and more repeat business and that power only environment and I honestly think the market to add in that environment is really ahead of us for all the reasons I previously outlined.
Carriers are are waking up to the reality that the load Board world.
Dramatically inflated rates is maybe not as sustainable as they thought it was.
The opportunity to find a safe haven and inside of a network like Warners.
Is there I think customers really appreciate large scale trailer fleets.
They do not.
Desire to kind of reinvent the rainbow fleets in the past and so very encouraged by power only as it relates to Q1 to Q2 progression, we're not going to give estimates, but we do generally have progression from Q1 to Q2 I would expect this year to be no different.
As it relates to our ability to continue to execute on our plan and one thing I'd add to that Scott is we look at first quarter to second quarter and clearly we had an abnormally strong first quarter freight environment. It was.
Nearly as good as it's fourth quarter was and we do have a moderating of spot market. We had a mild winter in first quarter and accelerating inflation. So the progression from first quarter to second quarter may not be as much as normal, but we do think that there will be improvement the wildcard is what happens with that.
Strength of beverage and produce and the timing of the China rebound.
Very helpful. Thank you guys.
Thank you Scott.
The next question is from Allison <unk> with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead, hi, good afternoon.
Just wanted to ask about dedicated you mentioned longer duration of contract is there any color you can give us as to where the average duration of those contracts Dan Donlan dedicated versus prior peak and then I guess more importantly, as you're renewing contracts today.
The duration of those contracts genes at all any color there.
Yes, I mean, I would say in general terms, they've always been longer term agreements and it's something that we've always aspired for them because of the complexity of implementing a true dedicated fleet.
You to the reality that we've always worked diligently to avoid designated fleets fleets that were really just looking for safe Haven from a spot market, but instead chased fleets that were very complex high service requirements.
And with a growing winning customer.
Around the edges, there a little longer today than they would've been five years ago, because we tend to realize that with this complexity and the relationship building that's required we'd like to be in it for longer.
To fulfill the full.
Opportunity for both the customer and for us so if.
With greater than 95% retention most of these linger well beyond the first contract and enter into many many contracts thereafter.
And so it's something we're proud of but slightly longer than previous cycles, perhaps but I wouldnt say that thats.
A huge movement point.
Got it thanks, and then the 5% reduction in miles per truck I think Johnny you had mentioned ECM as a headwind there you know any.
Any way to quantify what that headwind was or just trying to understand what's transitory and what sort of an underlying continuation to Q2.
Thanks.
Yes, so as it relates to the 5% which is TTS in total which is the.
8200 trucks ECM is.
Around 500, so it has.
Less than a percentage point out of that five would be due to ECM.
We have a shorter length of haul as we grow our dedicated mix and dedicate it gets bigger.
At.
Reduces miles per truck.
We had more challenging team driver environment this year than last and a little bit higher turnover. So all those factors contribute to it but.
As you can tell on the rate side, we achieved outside of the guidance range north of 20%. So we're miles are running a little bit lower due to the nature of the freight and the nature of the business rates are trending a little bit higher than we anticipated.
The other thing I would add to that is that as you think about and you look at Q4 across all of the large public carriers.
The average to about a double digit decline in miles per truck year over year, I think that gets overlooked a lot. When we think about capacity, we tend to focus on truck builds or truck counts and overlook the reality that on a per truck basis are simply the focus on more driver time at home means less miles the focus on shorter length of haul is customers want product closer.
I should say shippers want products closer to the consumer means lower miles per truck.
As Covid has abated and people will return to the to the roadways.
Negative implications for production and so all of that is really a net positive as it relates to capacity availability overall and I think that trend is more of a systemic kind of underpinning in terms of the fact that there is a different marketplace year over year I think the August shorter lifestyle gets more important and congestion increases.
The infrastructure Bill finally happening in some point actual work and shovels hitting the ground I think youll see additional headwinds there.
That will be yet another headwind against capacity growth.
I understood. Thank you.
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The next question is from Tom <unk> with UBS. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good afternoon wanted to see if you could talk a little bit about the progression on a monthly basis and the pre book.
That you talk about John Thats, a helpful. I kind of read I guess on what Youre seeing in the market pre books in one way and then also I don't know if you have a full year comment on gain on sale just ballpark, what we might think of for modeling.
I'll take the pre book and John wants to jump in on the gain on sale. So the pre book things interesting because I want to remind everybody January for us and as you've heard on many other calls thus far was heavily impacted by omicron and what that really means is trucks offline. So the pre book number in January was heavily inflated.
It was at record levels pretty much throughout the entire month and I mean at any point in history type record levels.
In February it moderated some mostly not almost exclusively due to trucks coming back online and drivers being back in the seat.
And you saw what I would call a very very strong market in February as we got into March we saw a little further moderation in the pre books would still consistently oversold throughout the entire months with no exception.
And so yes, there is moderation, but it's all relative.
Point of view.
From where we started which was highly disruptive in January highly oversold and the headwinds of omicron to where we ended up in March which was an oversold, but more balanced and with more fluidity returning into the network.
Honestly, if you could hold if March was representative of a month.
The next nine months it would be a very exciting time, because that's really when the network performs its best.
Was any timeline.
Sure.
Alright, do you have a comment on April Derek thus.
Thus far April has looked very similar to March.
And we'll see how we how may plays out and as I. Previously indicated we think there's a fairly strong possibility that June ends up returning to pre Covid June's, which was an opportunity for an end of quarter push with very strong booking levels.
That really were muted somewhat in the last two years, because every month and so strong you didn't see the sudden or noticeable uptick in June that used to exist for many many years I think youll see more of that I also think the back to school and some of the pushes that people have not been participating in as much in the last couple of years, we will add some fuel to that fire in June .
And to answer your question on gains Tom.
We've had difficulty getting all the new equipment trucks and trailers that we want.
And so we've reduced how many trucks and trailers, we sell in the current market, but they used truck pricing market and trailer pricing market had been extremely strong in first quarter. So far that trend is pretty much continuing here in the second quarter.
As you know, we stopped giving guidance on gain on sales last quarter because of the difficulty of predicting changes in the market.
The peaks and valleys of pricing. So we haven't given guidance this quarter and the current market trends are similar right now to what we saw but predicting out for the rest of the year is really really difficult I don't want to put a number out for the rest of the year, but one thing that sometimes gets overlooked when you think about gains on.
Sales of equipment number one the reason we have it is because we have conservative depreciation policies and at the same time that.
The average age of the fleet is increasing a little bit because we're getting fewer new trucks than we would like.
That raises costs in other areas, our maintenance costs were up 24% year over year it impacts our production with a little bit older free plate driver satisfaction is not as high when the fleets are little bit older and turnover is a little bit higher so when gains.
Again to moderate as the new truck production builds and we're able to bring our average age down back to two years from the $2 three it is currently.
That will reduce our gains, but it will put us in a better position to produce in other areas in the cost side.
As our operations run more smoothly.
Do you think <unk> may be similar to <unk>, and then second half it falls off a bit is that alright.
Alright, Andres Reiner based on what we know now we're not.
It could change here in the next month or two but based on what we've seen thus far in April it's been a similar trend of first quarter and I think it's still too early to predict that it falls off later in the year at this point, we're obviously youre going to keep an eye on it but it's it's unless the Oems are able to improve the fluidity in their networks and you see.
<unk>.
An introduction of a higher volume of new trucks. So I don't see anything on the horizon that causes me to believe you're going to see material changes in the gains number or in the market for used trucks I should say.
Even with lighter spot rates you still think I used truck is strong in second half.
Well I've stopped I started by saying Im not predicting second half I'm, just giving them things that.
That I think factor into what ultimately drives the used market south which is an influx of large scale of new equipment, which is not happening clearly as carriers come under duress.
And I'm talking about the smaller carriers that have overpaid for used equipment you could see some of those carriers wash out but in many cases they started their career and trucking is an independent trucker with a truck that at 500000 miles on it and it ran that truck now for a year or two.
And so those trucks.
We are really getting close to the end of their useful life. So we'll have to see how it plays out I think it is new territory for all of us.
We are cautious as it relates to the back half, but I think it's too early to predict the demise of the used truck market.
Okay. Thanks for all the time I appreciate it.
Yes. Thank you.
The next question is from Ken <unk> with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Hey, great good good evening, John and Derek.
Just trying to reconcile a little bit of kind of what you throw out here. So.
Doug you mentioned, placing a bloodbath of some of the smaller capacity the speed that you kind of mentioned youre seeing it couldn't get cleaned out or potentially gets cleaned out your customers focused on quality access to capacity. So are we already seeing that the ability to see tractors get easier.
The drivers you mentioned driver pay is up.
A 15%, which is down sequentially. So are we seeing that wash out already occur or are we on the cost of that maybe just talk about the timing of that.
Yes, I think it's.
Probably too early to say the washout is already happening, but I think the pain is very much present, we have seen an uptick an experienced driver applications in a pretty consistent one over the last call. It.
Two six weeks I think youre going to see more of that as we go forward, we've seen an uptick in interest in power only and folks that maybe previously you didnt want to do that they'd rather try to chase freight on load boards that now are looking and desiring that could become part of a more stable network. So we're seeing the early any signs of some of that.
Those smaller carriers as well as an uptick from customers as I mentioned previously looking for stability now more than ever in our ability for them, especially in retail with quality brands the ability to predict.
In stock levels going into the fall.
Thats something thats going to become increasingly important in carriers like Werner can kind of uniquely provide that stability for them.
And John you mentioned, the five times leverage.
It sounded like you were kind of saving capital for I don't know if it was for a rainy day or are you focused more on increasing the buyback maybe just die.
Your thoughts on the finance side.
Yes.
<unk> shares for the last three quarters are around a million shares a quarter.
And.
Those purchases occurred at higher prices than what we're trading at today. So we will continue to look at opportunities for share repurchase going forward.
We re upped our.
Bank credit agreements with our two major banks to $800 million from $600 million just to give us more flexibility.
In case, the Oems start to.
Step up their production of trucks in case their stock repurchase opportunities that we like and we continue to look at opportunities for <unk>.
Truckload acquisitions logistics acquisitions that are both accretive and additive to our business. So all of those are on the table.
Does an acquisition become more likely given given what started talking about in terms of some of the smaller carriers is that there's more stuff already hitting your door is that maybe just talk about that flow.
I would say frequency of opportunities is clearly increasing but I don't know that I'd go to say that that alone causes.
Likely hood to increase we're going to stick to our knitting I want things that are additive and accretive I want our portfolio to be enhanced by it. We're looking for strong track records and companies that do things very well I think we if you look at R. R.
Sticking with the theory of the draft that just took place if you look at our two draft picks last year, we're very excited about both of them.
In both cases, we've retained customers we've retained the associates and we retain the drivers and not only retain but actually have started to grow both those businesses.
We've got kind of a pattern or.
How we think about these things.
It doesn't mean they'll all be that small by the way.
But it does mean there are always going to have an eye toward those sort of core principles culture has got to fit they've got to be safety focused it's got to make us better and we have to believe that we have the ability to take something and grow it from where it's at today.
Kind of go by and dissolve.
We have seen.
In this industry for some time.
So as those opportunities present themselves and we see the right one we'll move.
And that's no different.
Answer from Warner, but it's one that we have confidence in and that confidence has only grown over the last year with the success of the two acquisitions that we've done thus far.
Great John Thanks for the time and the insight is helpful.
Thank you.
The next question is from Burtynsky Pan with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Hey, good afternoon good.
Afternoon Bert.
Derek would you consider the dedicated market to be consolidated or fragmented I asked because markets like intermodal LDL. They get the valuation benefit of that consolidation. The dedicated it's a small portion of truckload, that's actually quite different from the spot market, but doesn't get treated the same way. So curious what your thoughts are.
Yes, I think the dedicated model market is much more consolidated than truckload overall, if you look out there across the dedicated arena.
Theres, a few definitional differences probably from fleet to fleet.
You need to be cognizant of that and but what they all have in common is.
You really can kind of count on about two hands the high quality players in that space people that can really go in and.
Perform and operate the duties similar to a private fleet for a customer and actually enhance their supply chain and bring value to their product placement kind of on time every time approach to their own businesses and so there isn't very many people that can do it certainly size matters and dedicated a lot.
The ability to ramp up and to invest.
The ability to absorb the the startup cost and kind of digest those as part of a longer term agreement. There is a whole lot of things that limit the players and it is a much more consolidated market I'd also point, even within the one way side of our business. The same thing is true of a very large portion of our one way network, which is Mexico.
You don't need both hands to count the number of quality providers doing business to and from Mexico. There are others.
And we know we respect them.
But it is a much smaller subset of truckload that does that business and can do it well and we view ourselves as a leader in that space and we're going to continue to lean into that as well just like the engineered fleets. We've built inside of our one way network.
Other people could probably all the ATB part, but they wouldnt theres, a very small subset that can design engineer and then implement the type of engineering, we're doing within our one way network. So that's all part of his defensibility the durability of the portfolio. We are building and it's what gives us the confidence.
We think forward about being much less cycle driven than historic trends have looked like and hopefully some data market will choose to reward and recognize it for what it is.
So maybe just a follow up to that I mean, Derek you've talked in the past about trying to work with customers that look at their supply chain as an asset. If you had to look across your business. How high would you say your exposure is to that sort of customer and has that changed significantly from last cycle to this cycle and does that give you sort of more confidence.
And your longer term growth assumptions.
Yeah, I mean, I'll start with the easy part is higher than it's ever been.
Can irrefutably tell you that it has never been a higher percentage of our overall business than it is as we sit here today now theres always shades of gray on some of those customers are absolutely laser focused and locked in on supply chain is a competitive advantage that population.
It's probably what's certainly north of a third of our book, that's probably closer to a half. If you think of others that are viewed as a competitive advantage, but there where they're at in their evolution isn't maybe as evolved as the best in class ship or it might be.
But that would probably get your total up into that 70% to 80% range. I mean, it is basically what we do we very.
Strategically align ourselves with shippers after lots of due diligence to decide that we want to grow and expand our presence with them and their ability to win is a big part of that.
Thank you Derek.
Thank you.
Next question is from Jon Chapell with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Thank you good afternoon.
Eric You mentioned earlier in one of your answers about as it related to capacity the miles per tractor declining across the industry and getting worse in this post COVID-19.
When we look at back at year numbers, we're in a multiyear trend here of declines.
Does that continue to edge down is there a plateau at some point given some of those bigger secular issues in the sector as a kind of a gradual.
Annual decline from here, both in one way and dedicated.
Yes, I cant predict at this point that I wouldn't want people to model or assume that it just sort of declines forever, but but but I think there are certain headwinds out there that are just real.
They play to our strengths by the way, but the reality that more forward deployed inventory is only going to continue to grow.
<unk> continue as we look forward the reality that we have to continue to build more and more lifestyle jobs, which means more time at home, which means more time that that truck may not be as productive as it used to be in the past is going to be a continued pressure.
The fact that.
We are engaging more and more in dedicated we're often the miles per truck or simply dramatically lower because of the activity that that Trump does for that customer goes well beyond just delivering long haul truckload commoditize freight.
Drivers and many of those fleets are engaged well beyond the truck.
And they understand that when they sign up for that job and it's a tradeoff worth making because of the lifestyle enhancements and timing on that comes with it so.
I think youll see it moderate you can only go so short on length of haul at some point, there's diminishing returns and so I think youll see that decline moderate, but our model and how we think about profitability is not built on utilization alone. There was a time, where fewer truckload player utilization was the only metric or at least it was at the very top of the pecking order.
And we think about the world more relative to how much revenue per truck per day, which leads to revenue per truck per week.
Which ultimately leads to our ability to be profitable and so we're not going to let that one metric defined what customers, we bring on who we grow with because it's only one of the dials on the dashboard.
That's really helpful. And then just a quick follow up not to bring up old stuff, but in the third quarter.
You highlighted a bunch of issues you'd had with parts maintenance et cetera, I think the update in February was there had been some improvements there, but not quite where you want to be how do you stand with some of those carry forwards in the late part of last year do you feel like you're in the right place as it relates to parts equipment.
Its availability hours or still some work to do.
Yes, I mean, there are still parts shortages issues in the supply chain that are that are challenging.
<unk> made progress internally on how we acquire and make available those parts to minimize the downtime. So we've made good progress there, but there's still challenges on the some of the driver cost issues that were a challenge in third quarter for hiring incentives and minimum.
Layover, we've made significant progress from third to fourth and now in the first quarter. So.
Better place there as it relates to those cost items.
That's great. Thank you John Thanks Derek.
Thank you.
This concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Derek Leathers for any closing remarks.
Yes.
Well. Thank you I just want to thank everybody again for spending time with US. This afternoon. We appreciate your interest in the Warner story, and we're proud of the record results in the quarter, but I'm more excited about the strategic positioning of our portfolio as we get deeper into the cycle. The portfolio continues to improve and service safety and capabilities, while achieving improved financial result.
We've improved our weighting of dedicated and logistics sequentially and are further prepared for a variety of economic conditions that may materialize in the coming quarters and.
And as we move into.
Into 2022 and beyond we are focused on building upon the great brands, we have today and growing both our top and bottom line results for all of our stakeholders and I feel that Q1 is a great kickoff.
As a way to kick the year off.
While we met May never change the outsized perception of this being a cyclical industry here at Warner we have built an incredibly durable portfolio that I'm proud of the combination of Covid shutdowns across China high cost structures of many of the new entrants into the marketplace and the pending IOW contract negotiations lead me to have further conviction.
That supply chain will face ongoing disruptions as the year progresses, and we will be ready and able to provide needed support to our customers and attractive returns to our shareholders as that story plays out and lastly, as always I just want to thank all of the Warner associates for their ongoing achievements once again during these ever changing times.
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation you may now disconnect.
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