Q1 2022 Dominion Energy Inc Earnings Call
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Welcome to the Dominion Energy first quarter earnings conference call at this time each of your line is in a listen only mode. At the conclusion of today's presentation. We will open the floor for questions instructions will be given for the procedure to follow if you would like to ask a question I would now like to turn.
The conference call over to David Mcfarland Director Investor Relations.
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Good morning, and thank you for joining today's call earnings materials, including today's prepared remarks may contain forward looking statements and estimates that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent annual reports on Form 10-K, and our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q for.
A discussion of factors that may cause results to differ from management's estimates and expectations.
This morning, we will discuss some measures of our company's performance that differ from those recognized by GAAP reconciliation of our non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, which we can calculate are contained in the earnings release kit.
I encourage you to visit our Investor Relations website to review webcast slides as well as the earnings release kit.
Joining today's call are Bob Blue Chair, President and Chief Executive Officer.
Jim Chapman Executive Vice President Chief Financial Officer, and Diane Leopold Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, I will now turn the call over to Jim.
Thank you David and.
Good morning.
Before I begin.
I'll remind everyone of the extensive disclosure package and growth capital roll forward, we shared on last quarter's call we.
We're very focused on overall execution of those plans.
Including extending our track record of delivering results in line with our financial guidance as we did again this quarter.
I'll begin with a recap of our compelling investment proposition and again highlight our focus on the consistent execution of our strategy.
We expect to grow earnings per share by six 5% per year through at least 2026 based largely on our continued execution of our $37 billion five year growth capital program.
As shown on slide three.
As a reminder, over 85% of that capital investment is emissions reduction enabling.
And over 75% as rider recovery eligible.
The resulting approximately approximately 10% total shareholder return proposition is combined with an attractive pure play state regulated utility profile.
And an industry, leading ESG profile.
This utility profile centered around five premier states as shown on slide four.
All of these states shared the philosophy that a common sense approach to energy policy and regulation puts a priority on safety reliability affordability and sustainability as Bob will touch on in his remarks in just a moment.
Turning to slide five we see up to $73 billion of green investment opportunity across our entire footprint through 2035.
Nearly all of which will qualify for regulated rider recovery.
We believe we offer the largest.
<unk> and scope longest duration and most visible regulated decarbonization opportunity among U S utilities, which as you will hear in today's prepared remarks is continuing to steadily transform into reality.
The successful execution of this plan is already benefiting our customers.
Communities, the environment and our investors.
Before handing it to Bob for his business updates I'll discuss our first quarter results and related financial topics.
Our first quarter 2022 operating earnings as shown on slide six were $1 18 per share.
Which included one penny of help from better than normal weather in our utility service territories.
Weather normalized results were at the midpoint of our quarterly guidance range extending to 25 consecutive quarters, our track record of delivering on our financial commitments to our investors.
Positive factors as compared to last year include growth from regulated investment across electric and gas utility programs.
Interest expense and modest margin help.
Other factors as compared to the prior year include capacity expense and share dilution.
First quarter GAAP earnings were <unk> 83 per share and reflects the noncash mark to market impact of economic hedging activities.
Unrealized changes in the value of our nuclear decommissioning trust funds and other adjustments.
A summary of our summary of all of adjustments between operating and reported results is as usual included in schedule two of the earnings release kit.
Turning now to guidance on slide seven.
As usual, we are providing our quarterly guidance range, which are designed primarily to account for variations from normal weather.
For the second quarter of 2022, we expect operating earnings to be between 70, and 80 cents per share.
Positive factors as compared to last year are expected to be normal course regulated rider growth.
Sales growth and a return to normal weather.
Other factors as compared to last year are expected to be a millstone planned outage and some tax timing.
We are affirming our existing full year and long term operating earnings and dividend guidance as well no changes here from prior guidance.
Turning to slide eight let me take a minute to recap our O&M management and.
And highlight our strong performance relative to our guidance of keeping O&M flat normalized for riders.
Since our 2019 Investor day, when we spend some time, describing our flat normalized O&M target.
Could we have created a material we've created material value for our customers and shareholders by removing about $250 million in costs.
A reduction of over 8% during that four year period.
Something we view as quite an accomplishment.
Looking forward, we're focused on keeping normalized O&M flat by driving down costs through improved processes innovative use of technology and other best practices for cost cutting initiatives.
It's a dynamic process, we very intentionally go through each of our segments each of our assets each of our locations to find opportunities to lean into technology to improve business processes and to improve in areas like smart buying across our platform.
Finally, consistent with our current guidance, we expect to achieve flat normalized O&M through 'twenty 'twenty six no changes here also from prior communications.
Next I'll touch on inflation.
One of the more prevalent theme through this earnings season. It seems while we don't have a crystal ball on where inflation rates are heading how high and for how long let me share some color on the way, we think about the impact of inflation on our business.
As I mentioned, a substantial portion of our existing rate base and.
And over 75% of our growth capital is rider eligible.
Which allows for timely annual true ups, including recovery of any changes to cost and interest rates without the need to wait for less frequent base rate proceedings.
So how about inflationary impacts on our largest single rider project regulated offshore wind.
As discussed on our fourth quarter call that project has been largely derisked from inflationary impacts at this point.
Our five major fixed cost agreements collectively represent about $7 billion of the total capital budget.
Within those contracts only about $800 million remains subject to steel and metals commodities indexing and this component of the budget already reflects commodity cost increases observed in 2021, leading up to our filing date.
So what about interest rates inflation is of course generally accompanied by a rise in rates.
And we reflect market expectations, so increases in our planning process and guidance.
We of course don't just model flat rates.
About 80% of our balance sheet is fixed rate and as long a duration over 13 years and average tenor.
Looking at it looking ahead, the future issuances of long term debt.
We manage that interest rate exposure through a variety of hedging and treasury activities, including through what is currently about $10 billion notional.
A pre issuance interest rate hedges.
Which will help us keep future costs low so what does that mean.
That portfolio allows us to lock in treasury rates for issuances between now and 2026.
At rates as low as almost 1%.
This year, we've already issued $1 billion of long term debt at Dominion Energy, Virginia at a weighted average cost of 2.6% consistent with our 2022 financing plan guidance.
As it relates to additional fixed income issuance is remaining for the year. We will continue to monitor market market conditions and look for opportunities to further de risk our plan and create shareholder value.
Finally, a reminder, that economic growth inflation and higher interest rates are all part of the mix when it comes to determining authorized Roe.
Across our utility businesses and our periodic rate proceedings.
So in summary, the current inflation environment is of course dynamic and we're monitoring it closely.
At present, however, due impart to the factors I've. Just described we're not currently forecasting a material earnings impact associated with inflation.
I would also note the impact that the current inflation environment can have on our customer Bill we of course prioritize customer affordability.
And it will implement various mitigation strategies as Bob will discuss in a moment.
And with that I'll turn the call over to Bob Thank.
Thank you Jim.
I'll begin with safety as shown on slide nine through April of 2022, our Osha recordable rate was <unk> five to.
While overall results are tracking slightly higher than a year ago, they remain low relative to historical levels and substantially below industry averages our safety performance matters immensely to our more than 17000 employees to their families and the communities. We serve which is why it matters. So much to me and why is our first core value.
Now I'll turn to updates around the execution of our growth plan.
Our regulated offshore wind project continues to be on schedule and on budget Major project milestones are listed on slide 10, as we reported earlier and as Jim mentioned contracts for major offshore equipment suppliers were completed and signed in late 2021 do.
These include contracts for foundations transition pieces, Substations transportation installation of subsea cabling and the turbine supply and long term service agreements. We've been pleased with the progress of the state rider approval review with Intervenor and staff testimony receive rebuttal testimony filed and the hearings scheduled to commence later this month.
A final order is expected from the FCC in early August the.
The federal permitting process also continues in the next major milestone is receipt of the draft environmental impact statement expected in the second half of this year.
A few items to reiterate here first offshore wind zero fuel cost and transformational economic development and jobs benefits are needed now more than ever.
The project will also propel Virginia closer to achieving its goal to become a major hub for the burgeoning offshore wind value chain up and down the country's east coast.
Second unlike any other such projects in North America. This proposed investment is 100% regulated and eligible for rider recovery in Virginia.
Finally, the V. C. A provides a very specific requirements on the presumption of prudency for investment in the project, which we are confident that we have already met.
Turning to our Jones Act vessel the FCC in March approved our affiliates Act application for Dev's contract. The vessel remains on track for delivery in late 2023, and we expect it to be entering service with plenty of time to support the 'twenty 'twenty four turbine installation season.
Turning to other notable clean energy investment updates on April 23rd we filed but the support of the FCC staff and consumer Council, a settlement and the pending nuclear subsequent license renewal rider filing.
Nuclear life extension represents nearly $4 billion in capital investment through 2035, and this settlement agreement includes the first phase, which represents about $1 billion of that total.
This agreement is very good news and if approved by the FCC resolves all issues in that case in our estimation. The success of greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets requires the ongoing viability of the existing nuclear facilities. These Virginia units have performed exceptionally well for years, providing over 30% of our customers' energy needs and.
Providing that energy at low cost and carbon free.
Based on Pjm's carbon intensity rate just in the last year, Surry and north Anna avoided approximately 14 million tons of regional C. O. Two emissions to provide some context. This is equivalent to a reduction more than 3 million non electric cars for the entire year success.
Successful nuclear life extension is a win for customers and the environment and we want to thank the parties to this proposed settlement for their efforts.
On solar I'm very pleased that the FCC in March approved our most recent clean energy filing which included nearly 1000 megawatts of solar and energy storage capacity, our fifth consecutive such approval.
We also recently issued an RFP for an additional 200 megawatts of solar capacity and 125 megawatts of energy storage or next clean energy filing will take place later this year.
Our current portfolio of utility scale projects, which are under various stages of development represent over seven gigawatts of capacity. This pipeline goes a long way towards fulfilling our plan to meet the approximately 10 gigawatts of utility owned solar by 2035 as called for by the V C.
Turning to the solar supply chain as we've discussed on prior calls there continue to be challenges supply is still tight and prices for certain components are still up.
There's been a lot of focus on the potential impacts from the department of Commerce's Anti Circumvention review, let me share a few thoughts on one our expectations for that review to the degree to which we have already substantially derisked, our development activities and three our view of what the impacts could be if there are delays in what we might do to mitigate them.
First what do we expect in relation to the review we expect the preliminary findings will be known by as early as late August and at that time, we should have a better informed view of whether tariffs applied to panels being imported from the four southeast Asian countries included in the review.
To clarify our view is that payers are currently physically available is this review is not about prohibiting imports what is not clear is whether or not tariffs will apply the panels from the countries included in this review I'd also note that we're encouraged by the department of Commerce announcement earlier, this week, which further narrowed the focus of this proceeding.
Second how have we Derisked our development program for 2022, our projects are not impacted by the review is the panels needed for those projects are already in the country. These projects remain very much on track. This holds true for our regulated solar projects in Virginia, and the more modest amount of unregulated solar we're developing on behalf of key customers.
For 2023, our portfolio of projects is also largely derisked and on track all projects in this portfolio, which totaled <unk> 1100 megawatts across 16 regulated and unregulated projects are fully contracted with 60% of the panels being installed within this portfolio not expected to be impacted by.
The review, including panels that have been domestically sourced for the remaining 40% we expect the timing to be such that there's adequate time to resolve all potential tariff cost issues. If any following the resolution of at least the first stages of the review.
Now what would be the impact if tariffs are applicable at the end of the day.
Given our competitive advantages, including the strength of our supplier relations and contracts, we'd worked to minimize the cost impact keep in mind that while the tariff can be a material percentage of an individual panels cost. It may not be as major a cost driver of an overall utility scale solar installation to.
To provide some context panels typically account for 30% of our projects total cost so a 50% tariff on panels would increase the total cost of the project by 15%. So what does that mean for our 2023 portfolio for the up to 40% potentially subject to review, which represents 800.
Million in planned capital investment a hypothetical 50% tariff if applied to every module represents only about $120 million of incremental capital or less than 1% of our total capital budget for that year.
For our regulated solar projects. These additional cost would become part of our rider approved solar projects in Virginia and be subject to approval during the normal annual true up for approved projects for our nonregulated solar projects, which are being done on behalf of our key customers typically very large C&I and datacenter customers.
We expect to work with these customers to minimize the impacts of the tariffs and given the timeline for development as well as the relative importance of these projects to those customers who have their own clean energy goals, we remain comfortable with our current development expectations for.
For 2024 and beyond our view is that there's more than adequate time for us to see where all this goes if tariff supply costs become part of our rider process for our regulated projects and PPA pricing would adjust for our unregulated projects in the meantime, we're not standing idly by we're actively engaged with the Biden administration, both through trade groups.
And directly through our federal delegation. This outreach is intended to remind the administration that in order to meet its longer term climate goals. There has to be stability. We remain focused on the customer impact and advocate for energy policy that provides for an affordable clean energy transition.
Finally purely hypothetically if there are delays related to this tariff review what would the financial impacts being what might we do to mitigate them.
First we look to accelerate other capital to maintain the same financial profile, while maintaining affordable customer rates. We've already noted the very substantial programs. We're working on these customer beneficial programs are focused on resiliency and de carbonization on.
On the other hand, if there are delays and were unable to accelerate capital there'd be a slight help us lower capital needs would reduce financing needs. Lastly, we also would look to additional O&M control initiatives as we have successfully demonstrated our ability to manage controllable costs as Jim mentioned earlier.
In summary, it's still early and we'll have to work through these issues, we're working closely with policymakers and other industry participants and will continue to provide updates as things develop but we simply do not see any material financial impacts at this time.
Shifting gears, let me now address Reggie.
In anticipation of the withdrawal of Virginia from Reggie We filed this morning with the FCC to suspend our rider Reggie that was approved to recover the pass through costs related to required purchases of allowances through the Reggie market based trading program for carbon dioxide emissions. We also requested that Reggie compliance costs incurred through July .
31, and not yet recovered totaling approximately $178 million be alternatively recovered through Dev's base rates currently in effect. If approved this proposal will provide a meaningful reduction to customer bills in a way that allows us to continue the rapid de carbonization of our system in Virginia.
Our view on Reggie is unchanged from the comments, we made to the Virginia D. EQ in 2018, while we are committed to the ongoing transition to cleaner and lower carbon emitting resources were concerned that Virginia's linkage to the Reggie program through the Virginia carbon proposal would result in a financial burden on customers with no real mitigation of greenhouse gas.
Emissions regionally.
Nextera, our gas distribution business.
As we discussed in the past our gas utility operations are enhancing sustainability and working to reduce scope, one and three emissions with focused efforts around energy efficiency renewable natural gas and hydrogen blending operational modifications potential changes around procurement practices and unique customer product offerings for example in March.
We launched the carbon right program in Utah, which allows customers to offset 100% of their carbon emissions from natural gas usage for $5 a month on.
On the regulatory front, we continue to see strong support for timely recovery on prudently incurred investment to provide safe reliable affordable and increasingly sustainable service, including pipeline replacement efforts and expansion of service to rural communities.
Earlier this week, we filed a general rate case in Utah, which is required every three years. We after the case for an ROE of 10, 3% and a revenue requirement increase of $70 million, which represents around a 6% increase to a typical customer bill we expect new rates based on typically on a typical procedural scheduled to be effective in January .
Of next year.
On R&D, we remain the largest agriculture based orange developer in the country. We've recently commenced operations at our second <unk> project and expect five additional projects to come online. This year for a total of seven projects producing RMG based natural gas. In addition to the seven projects, we have a portfolio of projects in various.
Ages of development.
At Dominion Energy, South Carolina, I'd first like to highlight that businesses excellent operating performance our employees completed the quarter with zero injuries are goal that remains the top priority for our entire company.
In addition, our commitment to the customer is unwavering.
During the quarter, the average annual customer outage minutes or Sadie was reduced by 20% relative to the same period last year, placing us again in the top quartile among all utilities in the southeast.
This commitment to our customers was recently validated when Dominion Energy South Carolina was recognized as the easiest utility to do business with by escalate.
<unk> human behavior analytics advisory firm.
As it relates to our generation modernization program in South Carolina. We're on track as a reminder, we're replacing several of our older generation, peaking turbines with modern more efficient units modernizing this equipment will lower fuel cost to customers improve environmental performance and provide reliability and efficiency benefits too.
Accommodate the large and growing intermittent solar generation in South Carolina, We're moving forward with two of the proposed sites and will hold an RFP for a third later this year.
Turning to slide 13, let me recap, where we are on customer rates in Virginia, our largest service territory.
Again, we are dedicated to the delivery of safe and reliable energy to our customers, which is also affordable over the past 10 years, our rates, including fuel recovery have increased on average by less than 1% per year, which is much lower than the average annual inflation rate over that period.
Meanwhile, the share of our customers' wallet attributable to Dev's customer Bill has declined over that time period, a testament to the fact that <unk> rates have remained relatively stable. Despite an overall increase in household income during that time.
We also have rates that remain below the national in various regional averages based on EIA data our typical customer rate is 13% lower than the national average looking ahead, we expect to continue to offer a compelling value proposition to our customers with the addition of zero fuel resources to support sales growth.
Driven by very robust data center demand.
The ramp up of electric vehicle adoption in our service territory and continued customer growth.
In summary, we continue to be on an unwavering path to meet Virginia's clean energy goals by 2045, and it's incumbent upon us to deliver energy that is safe reliable affordable and increasingly sustainable.
Finally, let me highlight noteworthy developments in the legislative landscape for our company in Virginia. The General Assembly passed and the Governor signed House, Bill 894, which tasks. The FCC was setting up a site readiness program to encourage utility infrastructure investment in industrial sites designated as high demand.
It also directs the Virginia Department of energy to convene a work group to identify strategies for promotion of advanced small modular nuclear reactors to spill exemplifies Virginia's pro business common sense approach to energy policy and regulation that puts a priority on reliability affordability and sustainability while still early.
We applaud efforts to support research and development of technologies that will allow the utility industry to drive further carbon emissions reductions.
I see all of this is consistent with the common sense approach to energy policy and regulation that we typically see across our premier state jurisdictions with that let me summarize our remarks on slide 14.
Safety remains our top priority for the entire company, we extended our track record of reporting results in line with our financial guidance, we affirmed our existing annual and long term earnings guidance and our dividend growth guidance, we're focused on executing across project construction in achieving regulatory outcomes that serve our customers well and we're aggressively.
Resolutely pursuing our vision to be the most sustainable regulated energy company in America.
We're now ready to take your questions.
Thank you at this time, we'll open up floor for questions. If you would like to ask a question. Please press the star key followed by the one key that is star one on your Touchtone phone now is that any time, you would like to remove yourself from the questioning queue. Please press star two.
Again that is star one to ask a question.
Our first question will come from Shar <unk>.
With Guggenheim partners.
Good morning, guys.
Quite a comprehensive update there thanks for that.
Morning Shar.
But I guess, if we could start with offshore wind and there's obviously been some back and forth in the docket in the testimonies, which I think was what's to be expected, but maybe start there and I'm also curious if there are any updates on the remainder of the pricing that was indexed to commodities.
Yeah, So shar, you're right back and forth was expected its a regulatory proceeding there was always a bid ask there.
What I would say, though is if you look at our rebuttal testimony and we were of this view when we filed the case, but I feel even stronger as now all the testimony is in we have a very strong case on offshore wind.
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The parameters for <unk>.
Spending that is presumed prudent and we've clearly met all of those and we showed in our rebuttal testimony under a variety of scenarios.
That this project is customer beneficial, particularly when you think about the updated P. J M load forecast, which shows our increased sales in Virginia.
So this project will help us meet that need it will provide incredible economic benefits for the state.
It is strongly supported.
We feel very comfortable with where we are on this as you recognize fully regulated offshore wind project.
On pricing.
Yeah as you point out there are portions of our contracts that have some indexes they sort of move around.
But we contracted late last year as you know on these projects and as we said in our prepared remarks, there is no change or update to budget or schedule on offshore wind so.
We're still in what we believe was the very strong position we were in when we filed the case.
Got it and then just you know obviously separately, we just saw one of your peers in the northeast put their win business on the block just well I just want to confirm your level of interest with any offshore wind opportunities outside of your current construct.
Were a state regulated pure play utility and we're interested in state regulated projects like the one that we're doing in Virginia.
Our interest in offshore wind.
Got it and then just just real quick classic for me just in light of obviously, the rising financing costs at the parent and obviously, an extremely favorable commodity backdrop I hate to sound like a broken record, but the backdrop for assets kind of remains.
Really hot and there's kind of a gas price environment. So any updated thoughts on millstone in light of the current paradigm and even Cove point, just given the value of LNG assets, given what we're seeing overseas you clearly have incremental spending needs I mean, your capital growth is extremely healthy.
Eventually you may need some sort of financing. So just curious on maybe the other parts of the business that may be seen as not as base or core right.
Yeah.
Charlotte.
I appreciate the fact that you are every time, we are we get a chance to see you you ask us about this so that's that's that's good.
And I admire your consistency.
Well, we'll give the we'll give the same answer try to be consistent as well, which is we like the assets that we have to deliver on the performance that we've laid out we're very focused on execution.
We'll know specifically with millstone.
As we've been saying for some time there is a we think millstone is critical.
To Connecticut in the region, achieving its de carbonization goals and the Connecticut Legislature, just overwhelmingly passed a bill proposed by Governor Lamont four but based on his executive order for zero carbon by 2040.
And as you'll recall last year the.
Deep the department of energy and the environment in Connecticut did a study on on meeting that 2040 goal. When it was an executive order and showed that cases, they keep millstone N are hugely customer beneficial. So we think we think that millstone is a really solid asset that is operated very well but.
Overall, we like the asset mix that we've got to achieve the goals that we've set out.
Perfect. Thanks, very much and Bob Yeah that was consistent from a couple of weeks ago.
Absolutely, we wouldn't expect anything less.
Thanks.
Thank you once again, if you'd like to ask a question. Please press star one to join the queue. Our next question will come from Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research.
Yeah, Hi, good morning, Thank you.
Just one on the offshore wind.
Bob just on your offshore windy.
Should we assume this just goes to a litigated outcome in August is there any chance to.
To settle with the parties.
Yes, Steve.
As you know from our approach that we've taken on regulatory issues. If there's a way to find a constructive settlement, we're all in favor of that.
This.
Project has a litigated timeline or a litigation timeline that has a hearing set for couple of weeks from now and then in order in early August .
And that's the obviously the presumption on any regulated proceeding.
If there were an opportunity to settle in a constructive way we would obviously do that I expect you to hear that from every party to every.
Litigated matter, but we've.
We've got a schedule and that's what we're following.
Okay.
And just going to the ER that was a very helpful update on the solar project.
Situation for the <unk>.
Anthony.
Just on.
Do you think when you get a preliminary decision in August .
Either way would that be.
Information likely to be able to kind of move forward.
With project decisions.
Just because you know kind of likely be the rough range of outcome.
Yeah.
We would think that would.
Give us a very good sense.
Okay.
And I'm also just curious how the CNI the data center those types of customers are.
As you mentioned a lot of them have.
ESG type.
Requirements and the like.
Today.
It seemed to kind of.
Get if it is a little more expensive.
In terms of flexibility on that.
Obviously gas prices a lot higher too since this all started.
Yes, Steve our datacenter customers are very sophisticated energy buyers they understand market dynamics. So none of this there there obviously given their own clean energy goals given the sophistication of their operations. They certainly understand what's going on in the market here.
Okay I'll leave it there. Thank you thanks.
Thanks, Steve.
Thank you. Our next question will come from <unk> Chopra with Evercore ISI.
Hey, good morning team and I want a second steves comment there on the crisp solar disclosures.
I have two questions boat you know.
Hum on the solar front, Bob you mentioned narrowing the scope of the investigation.
Last week, maybe just elaborate on that as to sort of why do you think that's a positive update and how does that impact you and others in the industry.
Yes, I mean I.
I can't there's not a lot of specifics that I would say, but it just gives us more confidence.
As your sort of narrowing what theyre looking at I think there was some.
Lack of clarity on that at first and that helps.
So directionally positive can't identify that there is a particular specific number.
That it changes for us.
Got it I guess sounds like they narrowed the scope and it seems like.
You feel like the the items to be debated or are somewhat less is that like you got it okay.
Okay got it okay understood and then just you know the 2023.
<unk>, plus gigawatts sort of plan, 60% secured.
How are you getting to that 60% securities that because it is sort of the procurement there is from domestic entities or weak because we were hearing from some of your peers that there.
This amount of tightness in the market on solar panels and given the.
Uncertainty, it's kind of hard to procure so I'm just kind of curious as to how do you get to that 60% how do you get comfortable with that 60% number in 2023.
Hi, Good morning. This is Diane Leopold so our 2023 projects, but really all under contract and for 60% of them.
We know where our panels are coming from and we know definitively that 16% are not subject to this particular room you given the four countries that are under review. So it doesn't mean that the 40% definitely are affected by it but we do.
Do you have contracts for 2023 projects in 60% of them are secured from areas not in this investigation.
Okay. Thanks.
That's very helpful color I appreciate that thank you guys. Appreciate you taking the time.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Our next question will come from Jeremy Tonet with J P. Morgan.
Hi, good morning.
Morning, Jeremy good morning.
I just wanted to keep going with the solar a little bit here and I know you guys provided a lot of great detail. So thank you for that but yes.
Picking up I guess on your conversations with key stakeholders here, especially the commission.
Since the start of the DST investigation, just wondering if you could provide a bit more color on how that's going and do you anticipate the next clean energy filing in 2022 are those following in 2023 to differ from the latest clean energy filing and really how is the commission viewing higher software costs relative to other means of generation at this point.
Yeah, Jeremy I'll I'll start and.
Diane can add any color if necessary, but the.
If you look our <unk>.
C E to clean energy to filing that was just approved.
<unk> was slightly higher prices than our clean energy one filing that had been approved a year before and we will file again for our third round later this year.
And that was approved the commission looked at the cost inputs associated with that and approve that filing so we.
We're not we have not had specific conversations with the commission about this but we will when we file the next round of solar it will be on a similar.
Kind of scale as what we filed before and to the extent that there are some additional cost pressures will show.
Why they are there I do think it's important to understand that we've got a statute in Virginia clean economy Act.
It calls for us to file for solar every year.
And hit those targets that are set out in the statute and I think there is an understanding by all the parties there.
And we still see solar as a very good value for our customers.
As we think about the overall clean energy transition so.
We'll do the next filing we're obviously well underway with working through the pieces of that we'll have that filing done later this year, but we're still very much on track.
Got it that's very helpful. There. Thank you for that and then.
Just pivoting here towards I hope gas I.
Just wanted to see if there's any updates that you can provide us there on the process or any expectations, if anything's changed or just on track at this point.
Jeremy that that process is very much on track is going well, we cleared the HSR hurdle already.
We are in the process of.
Discussing that and doing the relevant filings with the West Virginia Commission.
So far that seems to be progressing well and we very much expect closing.
By the end of the year.
Got it that's very helpful I'll leave it there thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Paul Zimbardo with Bank of America.
Hi, good morning, Thank you.
I definitely can pass on the solar question. Thanks for the details there on your commentary about O&M I was curious what is the pension performance and year to date and are you thinking there could be a benefit or a headwind for 2003, when you factor in the asset performance and also changes to the discount rate.
Paul Good question, we've heard that come up from from a few of our peers. This earnings season, it's interesting because our archaic our view is that it's it's too early to tell.
Here, we are at the end of into Q1, yeah assets are down so our discount rates are up.
So we just don't think it's meaningful to.
To make a determination on what that's going to mean.
For the 12 31 Remeasurement date for all that.
A little more color, though we at year end, we're at about 110% funded status.
And based on rough math, you know mark that to market today assets are down a little bit returns are down.
This can rates are up we still think it's in that same 110% range.
But of course for the map on the actual pension expense for next year and beyond.
First of all it's only really mark to market at one time, which is 12 31. So some time to go in the year before we get there and then both those elements of course factor in.
If assets are down.
That's a hurt to the pension expense more pension expense and the <unk>.
Corollary is that if discount rates and interest rates are up it's a help.
So we've seen those two things really offset so far on a rough mark to market to the first four months three or four months, but really it's just too early to too.
Too early to be able to tell much what really matters, where we are at the end of the year.
Okay, great. Thank you for that.
And then.
Bigger picture longer term question, if I could I noticed there's a fair amount of storm damage in the quarter and also last year as well are there any kind of initiatives, whether capital or O&M that you can take to kind of preemptively mitigate some of this like more strategic underground ing or other avenues such as that.
Yeah, there's certainly things that we look at obviously, we have a grid transformation program underway that'll be a decade long strategic.
Strategic underground is an important part of that.
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Being able to sectionalize lines more quickly and isolate faults and restore service without as much human intervention will be part of it.
Some of that just basics of bigger poles stronger conductor.
We will also help so yeah.
Yeah, we've got programs underway.
That we will continue and always look for ways that we can cost effectively strengthen our system for customers.
Okay, great. Thank you all very much.
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