Q1 2023 Urban Outfitters Inc Earnings Call
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Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the urban Outfitters, Inc. First quarter fiscal 'twenty three.
Earnings call.
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I'd now like to introduce Oona Mccullough.
As director of Investor Relations Ms. Mccullough you may begin.
Good afternoon, and welcome to the <unk> first quarter fiscal 2023 conference call.
Earlier this afternoon the company issued a press release outlining the financial and operating results for the three months period ending April 32022.
The following discussions may include forward looking statements.
It's important to note at this time the global COVID-19 pandemic has had and continues to have a significant impact on European business given.
Given the uncertainty about the duration and.
And extent of the virus impact to the global retail environment.
<unk> discussed on today's call could change materially at any time.
Accordingly, future results could differ materially from historical practices and results or current descriptions estimates and suggestions.
Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projected results is contained in the companys filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
On today's call you will hear from Richard Hayne, Chief Executive Officer, Frank Conforti, Co, President and COO, and Melanie Marine Efron, Chief Financial Officer.
Following that we will be pleased to address your questions for more detailed commentary on our quarterly performance and the text of today's conference call. Please refer to our Investor Relations website at Www Dot you RBN Dot Com I will now turn the call over to <expletive>.
Thank you Laura good afternoon, everyone.
Today I'll begin the call with some brief remarks regarding our first quarter sales and make a few macro consumer observations.
I will then turn the call over to Frank and Melanie.
We will provide more details by brand.
Along with others lots upon future performance.
European produced strong sales gains in the first quarter with total retail segment comp sales, increasing by 11% versus Q1 last year.
Each brands posted positive retail segment comps led by Anthropologie with a powerful 18% gain in.
And three people with a 15% increase.
European brand retail segment comp was 1% driven by strong sales in Europe , partially offset by weakness in North America.
The urban brand in North America saw a deceleration in comp sales throughout the quarter as it faced progressively more difficult comparisons against sales in the first quarter last year.
When we last spoke with you in March we were optimistic the strong consumer demand will continue through the spring season.
We believe this remains true for the Anthropologie and free people brands.
These customers are excited for a return to normal.
Shopping the stores again.
And above with family and friends traveling.
Are you going to many many events.
Customers are shopping to accommodate their social calendars and the products. They are choosing for those two specifically for growing up movements.
Anthropology brand prioritize dresses for the spring summer season.
And that is paying off nicely.
What has reacted favorably tumor offerings.
And the Fabulous marketing materials the brand created.
We believe both Anthropologie and free people will continue to see nicely positive sales in Q2.
Most urban North America brand customers receive stimulus windfalls in March and April last year, which quickly slowed their disposable income.
Many splendid Joseph quickly and help drive a surge in demand in the first half of last year.
As a result.
Urban Outfitters, North America had a very difficult comparisons this year during the first half.
Furthermore, this customer is the most sensitive to inflation.
They are typically younger and earned less than the anthro or free people counterparts.
Adding to these powerful headwinds the brands in North America did not execute to the level, we would have liked.
Taken together we believe.
After there's north America will likely underperform in the second quarter.
Q2 comparable retail segment sales to date for the Anthropologie and free people brands are running nicely positive.
We believe total <unk> comp sales for the second quarter could be in the low single digit positive range, even though Q2 comparisons versus last year or a full 200 basis points more difficult.
Q1.
With that I will now turn the call over to Frank to provide more detail on our performance.
Thank you <expletive> and good afternoon, everyone.
I will begin my commentary discussing our total company Q1 results versus the prior comparable quarter, followed by additional notes by brand.
Total company sales grew by 13% to a first quarter record of $1 1 billion.
Driven by total retail segment comp sales increase of 11% a 6% increase in wholesale segment sales and a newly segment sales increase of $15 billion.
The growth in retail segment sales was driven by outperformance in the store channel versus the digital channel.
Please remember during the first quarter of last year, North American stores face capacity constraints and our European stores were largely closed due to government restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic.
This resulted in poor store performance and incredibly strong digital performance a year ago.
This year across both the stores and digital channels, we saw increases in AUR decreases and conversion rate, while traffic was up in stores and down in digital.
By product category demand for women's apparel and accessories were the strongest with home do you accelerate it from their recent healthy trends.
The growth in our wholesale segment was due to strong full price channel sales at free people, which more than offset a slight decline at urban outfitters.
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Although we delivered double digit sales growth the operating environment remained challenging and weighed on profits.
The decline in gross and operating profit margins in the quarter were largely due to supply chain disruptions, resulting in continued increased inbound freight costs deleveraging product margins.
Additionally, our stores face capacity restrictions last year, we held staffing well under normal levels now that stores have opened up again and traffic is rebounding nicely our store staffing levels are closer to historical averages and resulted in increased SG&A spend.
Our supply chain costs remain high and our SG&A comparisons remained historically low we believe our profit margin will remain challenged in the second quarter versus the prior year.
I will now provide more details by brand starting with the Anthropologie group.
The group delivered an impressive 18% retail segment comp in Q1 versus the prior year.
The double digit comps were driven by exceptionally strong full price comps in apparel, which increased by more than 50%.
This led to over 100 basis points of improvement in the brand's markdown rate.
Anthropologie started the season by strategically, bringing it early receipts of an expanded dress assortment in anticipation of the consumers' desire to return to events in the spring season.
Dresses led the apparel category with outsized growth.
And behold and recorded the highest Q1 revenue on record.
The brand push the boundaries on newness and style and their customer is responding.
To support this strategy the brand marketing team produced a compelling integrated dress marketing strategy refocusing on the original intended age demographic for the brand.
Superior product execution and marketing in the quarter led to double digit growth in new apparel customers to the brand.
During the quarter the home category was positive driven by strength in furniture, and a positive comp and gifting and entertaining.
We believe gift entertaining could moderate some as the customer is spending less time in her home than the previous two years.
Overall with the current strength of the apparel and accessories. We believed the Anthropologie group could drive a nicely positive comp in Q2.
Now I will call your attention to the free people brand.
Once again, the free people team produced an extraordinary quarter with retail segment comps, achieving a 15% gain versus last year.
Driven by strength in apparel and accessories.
The brand continued their strong customer growth due in part to some of the best marketing campaigns in the industry.
The wholesale channel returned to growth this quarter driven by strength in the full price channel along with many specialty stores operating at full capacity yet.
The free people movement brand also delivered another outstanding quarter, delivering 42% total retail segment growth.
We believe free people will continue to drive healthy sales growth in the retail segment as well as continue to grow the wholesale segment in the second quarter.
Now moving onto the urban brand, which delivered a 1% retail segment comp versus the prior year.
Europe delivered a robust 44% comp, which was largely offset by a negative 8% comp at your North America.
As <expletive> previously mentioned, we believe the macro environment, especially in North America is having an outsized impact on the UO brand and customer.
With inflation rates not seen in over 40 years. In addition to lapping trillions of dollars in stimulus funding from the prior year. It presents a unique challenge for the UO North America customer.
While we know the macro environment for the urban customer may remain challenging for some period. We also know we can execute better.
The brand's inventory is higher than where we would like it to be and we are focused on correcting those inventory levels throughout the second quarter.
As a result of a difficult Q2 comparison macro environment headwinds and execution opportunities, we believe <unk> could deliver a negative comp in the second quarter.
Lastly, I will speak to newly.
First quarter was a very strong one for newly rent.
Newly finally experienced a period with limited Covid interruptions and the business was well positioned to capitalize on the customers' interest in fashion and going out.
Marketing campaigns continued to build brand and concept awareness in addition to driving robust customer growth.
Active subscribers end of Q1 up nearly 200% versus Q1 last year and up nearly 50% from the end of Q4.
The brand outperformed our expectations with stronger growth in new subscribers more reactivated subscribers and greater subscriber retention than plant.
Momentum build throughout the quarter and as of today. The brand has over 82000 active paying subscribers. We're looking forward to continuing to grow the newly customer base and our learnings over the coming year.
I will now turn the call over to Melanie brain upfront, our chief Financial Officer.
Thank you Frank now I will discuss our thoughts on our second quarter and full fiscal year 'twenty three financial performance.
Do you think about sales growth for the second quarter, it's important to keep a prior period comparisons in mind as a reminder, we had exceptional comp sales improvement in Q2 last year as COVID-19 restrictions lifted and the consumer purchasing accelerated last year, we reported comparable retail segment growth of 10 <unk>.
In Q1 with Q2, accelerating 12 full comp points to a robust 22%, while we still believe that we can grow sales in Q2. This year versus last year's impressive number we believe our retail segment comp sales growth could land in the low single digit range.
Wholesale segment sales could grow in the mid single digits. Together. This would result in total company sales growth in the low single digit range now onto gross profit margin.
As a reminder, second quarter gross margin last year significantly benefited from unsustainably record low markdown rates as demand exploded and inventory levels could not keep pace due to last years exceptionally low markdown rates at all brands. We are planning for increased rates in Q2 this year.
Additionally, our current inventory levels, mostly at the urban Outfitters brand in North America are higher than we would like and could lead to higher markdowns versus last year as low level.
Also as a supply chain challenges continue to drive higher freight costs. Our initial product margins will continue to be negatively impacted.
The combination of higher markdown rates and lower initial product margins could result in an approximate 500 basis point decline in gross profit margins for the second quarter based on today's current sales performance and plan now moving on to SG&A based on our current sales performance and plan.
We believe SG&A growth for the second quarter will increase in the low double digits.
Our planned growth in SG&A is primarily due to increased store labor costs versus prior year.
This could result in SG&A rate deleverage versus last year, but we would expect SG&A rate as a percentage of net sales to come more in line with previous years.
We are currently planning our effective tax rate to be approximately 24% for the second quarter and 25% for full year fiscal year 'twenty three.
Now moving on to inventory.
Our inventory is elevated in the first quarter due to several factors.
First inventory costs have increased as a result of higher freight and raw material costs.
Second last year's inventory was significantly constrained due to supply chain disruptions.
Third as supply chain disruptions have persisted we have extended our inventory lead times and are holding more inventory earlier than normal to ensure that we have adequate inventory to protect sales.
Lastly, urban Outfitters brand sales came in lower than planned in Q1, resulting in their inventory being higher than where we want it to be.
Due to all of those factors just discussed we believe that overall inventory levels in the second quarter will continue to be elevated although we are planning for urban inventory to show meaningful increases.
Capital expenditures for the fiscal year are planned at approximately $225 million.
Lower than last year the level of spend is still elevated due to installation of our automation equipment and our new North America distribution facility, just outside of Kansas City, Kansas.
This facility will support the growth and expansion of our retail segment business in North America by providing more efficient and faster logistics.
Lastly, we will be opening approximately 38, new stores and closing approximately 16 stores during fiscal 'twenty three.
Our new store number includes 12, new free people movement stores this year.
As a reminder, the foregoing does not constitute a forecast but is simply a reflection of our current views the company disclaims any obligation to update forward looking statements.
Now I am pleased to turn the call back to <expletive>.
Thank you Melanie and thank you Frank that concludes our prepared remarks.
I want to thank our brand creative insurance service leaders I also want to thank our 23000 associates worldwide for their hard work dedication and amazing creativity.
Our many partners around the world for their extra efforts in helping us overcome numerous supply chain disruptions.
And finally I, thank our shareholders for their continued interest and support.
I will now turn the call over for your questions. As a reminder, please limit your questions to one per caller.
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Your first question comes from the line of Kimberly Greenberger of Morgan Stanley .
Line is open.
Okay, great. Thanks, so much.
I wanted to know if you could just comment on operating cost inflation that youre experiencing.
Obviously, we saw great cost start to rise in the back half of the year last year, how many more quarters of great cost inflation do you have and then are you experiencing.
Any further pressure on distribution center and store wages here in 2022. Thank you.
Hi, Kimberly. Thank you for the question. This is Frank so, yes, we're still experiencing higher freight inbound cost.
I would say similar to the recent trend and by recent trend that would mean in fourth quarter.
It was significantly higher than how we would normally operate from an inbound freight perspective.
I would anticipate those costs remaining pretty consistent into the second quarter.
And then we believe that the rate of deleverage as it relates to <unk>, which is mostly impacted by the inbound freight costs would start to reduce in the third quarter and that there is an opportunity for improvement when we look at the fourth quarter now. Please please keep in mind that this is our view as it fits today there is a lot of them.
Certainty out there right now <unk> got shutdowns going on in China.
<unk> strike Port strike here in the U S. You've got a war going on in Ukraine. So this is our view as we sit there as we sit today, but.
No.
Best of the best view that we have as it relates to store payroll.
Right now.
I'd say there are certain pockets, where there is pressure from a store payroll perspective, but for the most part that is baked into our forecast and from a distribution center I would say right now.
We are sitting in pretty good shape as it relates to as it relates to payroll like I said, though a lot of things can change as it relates to inflation.
Your next question comes from the line of Lorraine Hutchinson of Bank of America. Your line is open.
Thank you good afternoon.
Could you talk a little bit about any pricing actions you've taken at any of the brands if youre seeing any pushback from customers and then also just.
Just a quick update on the 500 basis points of new opportunity that you outlined last quarter, if we might see any of that come to fruition. This year to help offset some of these higher operating costs.
Hey, Marina ill try to handle a few a few.
One of those questions.
First of all the pricing action, yes, we have been selectively.
Raising some of our prices.
And to date, we really haven't seen much in the way of reaction from customers that we can determine that based on the increased prices.
Now.
Having said that we've seen a little bit more.
I wouldn't call it pushback, a little bit more hesitancy on the part of some of the urban customers and we believe it's because they are a little bit more impacted by.
Inflation.
Given their status.
In life.
As younger and not as affluent so I think that.
But as far as the Anthropologie and free people is concerned.
We have seen none.
And the second part of your question I can jump in on that day. So as it relates to the 500 basis points of IMU opportunity, Yes, we absolutely still believe that that opportunity exists over the next coming several years.
I would tell you as it relates to as it relates to this year similar to what we do.
Spoke to Kimberly about I would expect our IMU deleverage to be pretty consistent in the second quarter is what you saw in the first quarter starting to Peel that back a little bit in Q3, and then actually being able to show improvement year over year in the fourth quarter as some of those strategies really begin really began to take hold.
To get the full 500, some of the strategies have a longer lead time as well as we're going to need to see a more steady ground and more normalization in the supply chain inbound freight cost than where we're at right now but to be totally honest, it's only one quarter.
We're not really surprised by the cost environment that we're in today.
And we have made some progress.
On our product distortions.
Lowered some of those style counts and then raise the.
Quantities that we're ordering which is driven.
Some very nice increases in IMU in several cases.
We've also employed more vendor direct production methods.
And that has reduced slightly celebrate agency fees, but as Frank said. This is very early days and we are making.
Making some progress but.
Unfortunately, we've got some.
Very heavy wins that we're facing.
From the supply chain.
Yes.
Your next question comes from the line of Paul Lajoie of Citigroup. Your line is open.
Hey, Thanks, guys.
Can you just talk about the urban Outfitters, North America business curious if you can share what the comp metrics were.
First conversion ticket and then what sort of increases are you seeing on the AUC side from your third party brands, so it sort of sort of MSRP.
Increases are you how are you.
Are you going to try to put through to the customer and I'm curious if that's getting larger as we move throughout the year. Thanks.
Hi, Paul It Sheila.
Just to start with urban Outfitters North America.
Execution side of the business, we feel like.
Mens business was particularly disappointing.
Identified and isolated.
The team.
With off track and I believe our men's business.
Clear visibility to get back on track going into third and fourth quarter. We also within our women's business.
Massive wins towards new fashion and.
If you step away from some of the older fashion as quickly as we needed to so you'll see a change of distortion going into those where the customer is choosing going into the third quarter.
Rest of way.
As far as traffic is.
Concerns, our AUR and <unk> continued to be up versus history slightly down to last year.
Versus fiscal 'twenty.
And our version is similar.
In response to historical metrics.
Yes.
As it relates to traffic.
The urban brand is the most challenged of the three.
All three brands are still.
Under their FY 'twenty traffic patterns.
And.
Urban has slightly higher penetration of stores in places like New York City, Chicago, San Francisco, where the traffic is most challenged so we believe while we've made substantial progress in the last.
Youre in the half.
We still have a long way to go, particularly with the urban brand.
Your next question comes from the line of Marni Shapiro of the retail tracker. Your line is open.
Hi, everybody.
<expletive>.
Just like to take a step back from all the noise of the expenses in distribution and everything and talk about the underlying business for a minute could you.
Focusing just a little bit on Anthropologie, because really great improvement there over a couple of years. Prior if you could talk a little bit about what's really driving full price sales there is coming back in.
Buying more than once and then it sounds like just from that last comment even at urban.
It sounds like the customer is still very much fashion engaged it's just that the fashion. She moved to fashion very quickly and it sounds like you guys didn't have enough of the fashion that she was looking for and what she didn't want it didn't matter have tipped.
Typical for urban Outfitters, it didn't matter what the price was if she didn't want it she didn't want it just wanted to it was new and hot can you just dig into those thoughts sure.
Thank you Marni, what I'm going to do is ask Tricia to talk about anthropologie because.
It's much closer to it.
Great job.
Overseeing it so Richard do you want to take a shot at it.
Hi, Marni.
I think as Frank mentioned the primary drivers of the oncology growth came from a significant investment in categories like dresses recognizing that there is customers returning to the occasion.
But that was not.
Limited our strategy overall, we definitely see the customer returned to.
Travel again, we launched a capsule collection geared towards resort. So swimwear coverups all of those categories are performing incredibly well and we really wanted to make sure that we were addressing the needs for whatever form of return to office happen for our customers.
Really invested in heavily into all of the newness that's happening in the bottoms.
In footwear, we expanded that category and further expanded our shoe assortment online into our stores.
And I'm happy to share that just behind dresses and footwear, our top performing categories.
And really our longer term strategy is to continue to prioritize our investments in these categories. So feeling good about the customer's demand She's got places to go.
And we're trying to prioritize and execute really well.
Two <unk>.
And best significantly in those categories, and then ensure that our marketing messaging and supporting that as well.
Okay. Thank you.
You'd have to say anything about Europe .
The urban customer coming out of.
Locked down from the previous year definitely told us loud and clear that they wanted very specific items and fashion trends.
We were happy to have them, we wished we had them slightly more just started and I think the teams are reacting accordingly.
Going forward.
And.
It keeps us press it definitely keeps us on our toes definitely clean new attribute sort of leading the way in the industry.
So that feels very good we just need to own it and stronger going into the next.
And I would say that.
All the brands very similar patterns of fashion.
All brands.
Well on the dress assortments they.
They did well in their pants and denim assortment.
They did well and their Bios assortment, so I think that.
I think there are some similarities across brands, although the manifestation of those.
Categories.
We are different across the three brands so.
Yes good.
Good morning. Thank you so much for the question because in the end. This is what we did we.
Talk about fashion and.
That's what interests most.
Even though.
We have to pay attention to things like supply chain.
Your next question comes from the line of Mark <unk> of Robert W. Baird <unk> Company. Your line is open.
Good afternoon, Thanks for taking my question.
You called out some of the macro challenges on that consumer but also the execution opportunities that you see maybe just dig into that a little bit more and help us understand some of the controllable levers you see to drive growth.
To be a little bit tougher macro backdrop.
And then bigger picture <expletive>.
It would be helpful to get just your view on the health of the it may be more mid to upper income consumer and the duration of this wardrobe refresh cycle.
Three months ago, you were pretty positive on the signs youre seeing there.
Despite some of the macro readings that had been softening just curious if your views have changed.
At all on that front again beyond sort of what you already discussed on UO.
Yes.
Yes, I think.
Second question first we do believe that there is that sort of bifurcation there.
That has happened as a result of the inflation.
And as a result of the.
Stimulus checks that were set out last year.
As you know.
The urban customer tends to be the.
Younger ones that are out on their first job or maybe second job and theyre, making a little bit less money than anthropologie and free people counterparts.
As a result of that.
Inflation is really hitting them much harder than the anthropologie and free people customer.
That that sort of higher income bracket of those two brands.
We don't see any side right.
Right now of inflation impacting their buying decisions.
I am very convinced that estimates impacting.
Impacting their buying decisions and exactly what Tricia talked about which is they want to be they have lots of events to go to.
Weddings.
And many many other things and the reason I can say that is that we have this.
Concept called terrain and within trade we have.
<unk> called training events, where we actually.
Sponsored events and rent out space.
And I can tell you that we've never ever been.
Sure.
More inundated with requests for <unk>.
Since then we have in the last six months.
We're well aware of the fact that she is out and that she wants to go to these events and she is going to spend our money to prepare for those events. So she looks good during the events. That's what's driving her that's what's important to her.
So we're very.
We're convinced that this is going to continue to go on.
More than anything it's because the.
The events space that we do have is fully booked through next year. So.
We believe that's going to continue.
Great and then.
To discuss our bandwidth is in our control versus the macro headwinds.
Like I led with men definitely is a place that we felt like we had more control over I think the team delivered.
Very very strong denim.
Increases.
Really tackled that as a priority business for the execution was quite strong versus history. Do you believe that will only continue with the strength of the team Boston study and within that we feel like we can easily get that back into the business that is more.
Sure.
Reactor bolt quicker.
Within the women's business I think it was being a little bit braver within the fashion trends.
And turning the business pick up coming out of the pandemic.
It wasn't known Dr.
So I do think the team recognizes that we need to stay focused on what we can control and that definitely is a controllable.
Uh huh.
Okay. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of China Kloppenburg of T. J can research Associates. Your line is open.
Hi, everybody and congrats on the good progress.
And getting the fashion right.
Thanks.
I was wondering if you could perhaps give us.
Glenn how the point.
Expense supply chain expense pressures look beyond the second quarter, and how we should be thinking about.
Some relief in the second half.
Do you think things will improve or are you seeing things improve.
That would help a lot.
And then.
I was wondering I was impressed at the home business was up.
In the quarter, maybe it was up at Anthropologie.
And I was wondering about trying to say because we are seeing some softness in the industry in the home category. So maybe for both you and <unk>.
How that is looking as we look to the second quarter and beyond thank you.
Thanks for your question Janet I'll take the.
Freight and then hand over to home to Trish and Sheila to talk about.
So as mentioned I do think that.
IMU deleverage, which is largely driven by the increased freight costs will look similar in the second quarter as it did in the first but as you noted.
Do you start to think that we'll claw back that rate of deleverage in the third quarter. So the deleverage wouldn't be as much as what we saw in Q1 and Q2 and I do believe that there is opportunity, but in the fourth quarter for us to show improvement in IMU on a year over year basis. So again.
Starting to see some of the benefits of the initiatives that we put in place as well as hopefully a little bit of normalization.
As it relates to the supply chain and then lastly, obviously, we're also anniversarying higher cost by the time, we get into the fourth quarter. So I think Q3 Youll see improvement not.
Not improvement year over year, but an improvement in the rate of deleverage as we start to claw that back and then by the time you get into the fourth quarter, which I think we could see improvement on a year over year basis within <unk> again, as we sit today as we sit here today.
Okay.
Hi, Janet.
I'll take that Anthropologie answered living as we think about the home category.
Bit of a mixed performance within the category. So overall our performance was strong in the mid single digit growth on the quarter with furniture and decor really be in the categories that are continuing with our growth trajectory and demand and we're pleased with that.
That would seem to be gaining market share there theres definitely a bit of a slowdown for us in certain gift and entertaining categories home fragrance in particular.
And mark kind of experiential categories Dr.
Dr shifting nicely back to pre pandemic retail.
Channel levels, but we're definitely seeing some softening in DTC.
And then I think.
On a positive fiber definitely seeing customer interest and entertaining at home again.
And so we're focusing on expanding kind of tabletop glassware start where all of those categories and feel like we've got some new growth opportunities to invest.
Definitely some softening in some deceleration in the business that we feel confident that we're continuing to see nice growth in the home category.
<unk>.
I think within the urban slightly different story I think softening is.
Stronger than in England, anthropologie within the phone business.
<unk> increased our pricing here.
In a tremendous way over the past several years.
But we feel very confident this will continue to be an opportunity division.
We settle back into key categories that we can expand into.
Yes, and I think just to throw in there with the urban team.
We have a real opportunity for back to school.
To do better than we did last year.
Our back to school business wasn't as strong as we would've liked last year or so.
I think that's our earliest opportunity.
Your next question comes from the line of Dana Telsey of Telsey Advisory Group. Your line is open.
Good afternoon, everyone. As you think about the different channels, certainly seems like the return of stores, improving and the labor cost with that attitude, the SG&A and getting trapped working to get traffic back. How do you think of the buckets of SG&A going forward with some of those areas and any update on digital.
What you saw in that performance and margin by brand. Thank you.
Melanie I'm going to start with your first question, which was about SG&A growth.
Going forward, we do expect SG&A growth to outpace our sale.
But not quite as much as you saw in the first quarter.
Drivers would be similar to the first quarter, where we had store payroll increase increasing as the as the traffic came back versus prior year and of course, we continued marketing investments.
Your focus on driving customer acquisition and retention.
But just wanted to remind you as you think about SG&A.
The acceleration is really about the comparison right, where we had really really tight spending in our stores. So the rate SG&A rate as a percentage of sales would be more in line with ours.
Historical SG&A and as you get further through the year the difference between the sales growth and the SG&A growth will will be diminished.
Expense spend became more normalized in the back half of the year versus the first half.
As it relates to digital data.
Because the stores were largely empowered in Q1 of last year.
There was a surge in demand when.
When the stores open.
And.
That caused.
Record strong double digit gains in Q1.
This year in the first quarter stores rebounded nicely and registered double digit comps.
Total sessions decreased by low single digits.
Maine up almost 30% versus FY 'twenty, so really what happened is.
The digital.
Pulled back.
Some of the forward.
<unk> achieved over the last several years as these stores comped back up.
Alright next question comes from the line of <unk> of UBS. Your line is open.
Great. Thank you so much I guess I just wanted maybe if you can share a little bit more.
Formation elaborate little bit on the composition of the excess inventory at urban Outfitters. When do you expect to get into a better inventory position do you expect to take actions in Q2 in order to get to Q3.
And that better inventory position, where do you think there should be more of a prolonged impact. Thank you.
Hi, its still again I'll take that question.
Or being aggressive to clean up what the customer has voted.
They don't want from us.
And recognize that we can get this back on track before.
We think Q3.
We feel very strongly that we need to.
What they don't want into what they do.
So feel very confident by Q3, we'll be back in the car.
That's the vision.
Okay.
Your next question comes from the line of Ike <unk> of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Yeah.
Hey, two questions.
I guess my first question was on profitability.
The Q1 numbers and putting the pieces together for Q2, it kind of it looks like the margins are now kind of trending back to the pre pandemic levels I know, there's a lot of moving pieces, but is that a good way to think about the back half of the year.
We are trying to model out Q3, and Q4 and then just another question on Anthro you guys are doing a phenomenal job on the business has done has been robust, but I guess.
When you think about that customer being more affluent tied to the market and things like that what are the things you're looking for to kind of gauge the health of that consumer and her willingness to continue to spend.
This is Frank I can take the profitability and then hand, it over to Tricia to speak a little more about anthro.
So you are correct as we're sitting here looking at the second quarter.
Gross profit margin decline would actually put us pretty pretty in line actually with where we were pre pandemic in fiscal 'twenty I think what's important to note. Though is obviously the supply chain is really different right now than it was in fiscal 'twenty.
And if you think about an opportunity to build off of that fiscal 'twenty number we would anticipate being able to drive an improvement in IMU.
We talked about a lot of our strategies, there and as the supply chain hopefully normalizes.
Over time, so yes in the near term.
As you are looking at fiscal 'twenty and being able to compare our numbers for Q2 and Q3.
That's a good comparison, but we do think that there is.
Some nice healthy growth that we can continue to drive off of those rates and certainly off of those dollars.
When you look when you look into fiscal 'twenty, four and going forward in the back half of the year.
And I visit Vic.
We look forward with Anthropologie is what we look forward each of the brands and that is.
On a daily basis.
<unk> sales on a weekly basis, we analyze traffic in the stores.
And that tells us pretty darn close.
Things start to change.
And as I said to you we have not seen any indications today.
That customer has changed and so we're not necessarily expecting it.
Well, we're believe me.
The market is down.
And that could impact <unk> and could cause a psychological change.
And her mood to shop.
As I said, there is no indication of it right now.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Dan Stroller of BMO capital markets. Your line is open.
Hey, Thanks for squeezing me in just a quick one on the inventory I was wondering if you could provide any color on what it looks like in terms of units by brand.
That's all thanks.
Yes. So this is Frank I'll take the I'll take the inventory question and I'm going to.
Take a long path here I think firstly, it's important to remember that as youre comparing inventory to last year. This was significantly.
Significantly constrained last year, our inventory was meaningfully lower than where we wanted it to be so.
If you look at things versus fiscal 'twenty, our comp inventory is up 33% and our comp sales versus fiscal 2022%. So very much much more in line and when you look at it on a year over year basis.
Yes, absolutely there is inflationary pressures.
In there, which is why our cost is higher than our unit.
I'd say, our cost is higher than our units by about by about 15 by about 15 points right now which is the inflation that you're seeing in there I would also just say second the other item that's driving up that inventory.
Fact that the supply chain is on unstable ground right now and it's not as reliable as it used to be we are placing orders earlier and we are taking inventory in earlier.
We believe it's the right thing to do to protect sale.
And we're going to continue to do that so I think youre going to expect to see inventory continue to outpace sales here as we closed the second quarter.
And then very similar to what Sheila mentioned about the urban Outfitters brand as we get into the third quarter, you'll start to see.
That delta starts to narrow and then as we get into the fourth quarter, we will have the opportunity where sales and inventory are actually would be come back and be more in line with what you are historically used to seeing from us.
Thank you.
And our last question comes from the line of Tyler of Jefferies. <unk> Company. Your line is now open.
Hi, good afternoon, and thank you for taking my questions.
Firstly, how are you thinking about the promotional environment for the remainder of this year versus your initial expectations and then secondarily. It was nice to see some encouraging and robust growth from newly can you maybe unpack a little bit about what drove that and what to expect at that brand going for it that segment excuse me going forward. Thanks.
Yes.
I'll take the promo question and then ask Dave to talk about newly.
I think that there is a surplus of inventory.
Mostly I would say across the board.
At retail right now and so I would expect the promotional activity like.
Like we have in our own brands to be a little bit elevated over where it was last year as Frank just said last year was an anomaly.
Couldnt get the inventory.
Really tight.
It's not as tight now and.
So.
I think that we will see promotional activity increase not just in Q2, but throughout the year and into holiday.
Dave you want to take.
Yes, sure Cory Thanks, a lot for the question.
Q1 was a really strong one for newly rent we were.
Weighted by the results and excited to report them as Frank mentioned in his commentary subscribers were up.
Nearly 200% year over year, and nearly 50% quarter over quarter from the fourth quarter.
And now.
Mid may we have over 82000 subscribers subscriber growth was strong across all segments with new subscribers substantially ahead of plans resumed subscriptions were trending ahead nicely as well in existing subscribers were retaining at higher rates than planned as well.
The rental business has been seeing some very nice traction so far in 2022.
We're getting strong reads from the market that our target customers have a lot of events to go to.
And just in general a lot of ways to get back to living after COVID-19.
So I think.
More and more people are recognizing that renting through newly as viable enjoyable and cost effective way to add variety to their wardrobe for all of their events.
So subscription momentum is very positive right now we're also very encouraged with our progress on bottom line profitability.
Last year's first quarter saw an operating loss rate in the low 40% range.
Our loss rate in this past first quarter by.
By contrast was in the mid teens, so seeing very significant operating margin margin leverage in Q1 versus last year.
So feeling really good about the progress and the operating model and <unk>.
Fueling great with where we are.
Okay, I think that.
That concludes the questions. So thank you very much for joining and we look forward to talking to you in three months.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating you may now disconnect.
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Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the urban Outfitters, Inc. First quarter fiscal 'twenty three earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode.
Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time, if anyone should require assistance. During the conference. Please press Star then zero on your Touchtone telephone.
This conference call is being recorded I would now like to introduce Oona Mccullough executive director of Investor Relations Ms. Mccullough you may begin.
Good afternoon, and welcome to the U R. B M first quarter fiscal 2023 conference call.
Earlier this afternoon the company issued a press release outlining the financial and operating results for the three months period ending April 32022.
The following discussions may include forward looking statements.
It is important to note at this time the global COVID-19 pandemic has had and continues to have a significant impact on European business, given the uncertainty about the duration and.
And extent of the viruses impact to the global retail environment.
<unk> discussed on today's call could change materially at any time.
Accordingly, future results could differ materially from historical practices and results or current descriptions estimates and suggestions.
Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projected results is contained in the company's filings with the securities and Exchange Commission.
On today's call, you'll hear from Richard Hayne, Chief Executive Officer, Frank Conforti, Co, President and COO, and Melanie Marine upfront Chief Financial Officer.
Following that we will be pleased to address your question.
For more detailed commentary on our quarterly performance and the text of today's conference call.
Please refer to our Investor relations website at Www Dot <unk> Dot Com I will now turn the call over to Jay.
Thank you Laura good afternoon, everyone.
Today I'll begin the call with some brief remarks regarding our first quarter sales and make a few macro consumer observations.
I will then turn the call over to Frank and Melanie.
We will provide more details by brand.
Along with her thoughts upon future performance.
European produced strong sales gains in the first quarter with total retail segment comp sales, increasing by 11% versus Q1 last year.
Each brand posted positive retail segment comps led by Anthropologie with a powerful 18% gain in.
And free people with a 15% increase.
The urban brand retail segment comp was 1% driven by strong sales in Europe , partially offset by weakness in North America.
The urban brand in North America saw a deceleration in comp sales throughout the quarter as it face progressively more difficult comparisons against sales in the first quarter last year.
When we last spoke with you in March we were optimistic the strong consumer demand would continue through the spring season.
We believe this remains true for the Anthropologie and free people brands.
These customers are excited for a return to normal.
Shopping the stores again.
And about with family and friends traveling.
As you go into many many events.
Customers are shopping to accommodate their social calendars and the products that are choosing our those tailored specifically for growing up moments.
Apology brands prioritize dresses for the spring summer season.
And that is paying off nicely.
Customers reacted favorably to their offerings.
And the Fabulous marketing materials brand created.
We believe both Anthropologie and free people will continue to see nicely positive sales in Q2.
Most urban North America brand customers receive stimulus windfalls in March and April last year, which quickly slowed their disposable income.
Many studies Joseph quickly and.
To help drive a surge in demand in the first half of last year.
As a result.
Urban Outfitters, North America had very difficult comparisons this year during the first half.
Furthermore, this customer is the most sensitive to inflation.
They are typically younger and earned less than your anthro or free people counterparts.
Adding to these powerful headwinds the brands in North America did not execute to the level, we would have liked.
Taken together, we believe urban Outfitters, North America will likely underperform in the second quarter.
Q2 comparable retail segment sales to date for the Anthropologie and free people brands are running nicely positive.
We believe total <unk> comp sales for the second quarter could be in the low single digit positive range, even though Q2 comparisons versus last year or a full 200 basis points more difficult.
Q1.
With that I will now turn the call over to Frank to provide more detail on our performance.
Thank you <expletive> and good afternoon, everyone.
I will begin my commentary discussing our total company Q1 results versus the prior comparable quarter, followed by additional notes by brand.
Total company sales grew by 13% to a first quarter record of one 1 billion driven by total retail segment comp sales increase of 11% a 6% increase in wholesale segment sales and a newly segment sales increase of $15 billion.
The growth in retail segment sales was driven by outperformance in the store channel versus the digital channel. Please.
Please remember during the first quarter of last year, North American stores face capacity constraints and our European stores were largely closed due to government restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic.
This resulted in poor store performance and incredibly strong digital performance a year ago.
This year across both the stores and digital channels, we saw increases in AUR decreases and conversion rate, while traffic was up in stores and down in digital.
By product category demand for women's apparel and accessories were the strongest with home day accelerating from their recent healthy trends.
The growth in our wholesale segment was due to strong full price channel sales at free people, which more than offset a slight decline at urban outfitters.
Yes.
Although we delivered double digit sales growth the operating environment remains challenging and weighed on profits the decline in gross and operating profit margins in the quarter were largely due to supply chain disruptions, resulting in continued increased inbound freight costs deleveraging product margins.
Additionally, our store space capacity restrictions last year, we held staffing well under normal levels now that stores have opened up again and traffic is rebounding nicely our store staffing levels are closer to historical averages and resulted in increased SG&A spend.
Our supply chain costs remain high and our SG&A comparisons remained historically low we believe our profit margin will remain challenged in the second quarter versus the prior year.
I will now provide more details by brand starting with the Anthropologie group.
The group delivered an impressive 18% retail segment comp in Q1 versus the prior year.
Double digit comps were driven by exceptionally strong full price comps in apparel, which increased by more than 50%.
This led to over 100 basis points of improvement in the brand's markdown rate.
Anthropologie started the season by strategically bringing in early receipts of an expanded dress assortment in anticipation of the consumers' desire to return to events in the spring season.
Dresses led the apparel category with outsized growth.
Behold and recorded the highest Q1 revenue on record.
The brand push the boundaries on newness and style and their customer is responding.
To support this strategy the brand marketing team produced a compelling integrated dress marketing strategy refocusing on the original intended age demographic for the brand.
Superior product execution and marketing in the quarter led to double digit growth in new apparel customers to the brand.
During the quarter the home category was positive driven by strength in furniture, and a positive comp and gifting and entertaining.
We believe gift entertaining could moderate some as the customer is spending less time in their homes than the previous two years.
Overall.
With the current strength of the apparel and accessories, we believe the Anthropologie group could drive a nicely positive comp in Q2.
Now I will call your attention to the free people brand.
Once again, the free people team produced an extraordinary quarter with retail segment comps, achieving a 15% gain versus last year.
Driven by strength in apparel and accessories.
The brand continued their strong customer growth due in part to some of the best marketing campaigns in the industry.
The wholesale channel returned to growth this quarter driven by strength in the full price channel along with many specialty stores operating at full capacity yet.
The free people movement brand also delivered another outstanding quarter, delivering 42% total retail segment growth.
We believe free people will continue to drive healthy sales growth in the retail segment as well as continue to grow the wholesale segment in the second quarter.
Now moving onto the urban brand, which delivered a 1% retail segment comp versus the prior year.
Europe delivered a robust 44% comp, which was largely offset by a negative 8% comp you have in North America.
As <expletive> previously mentioned, we believe the macro environment, especially in North America is having an outsized impact on the UO brand and customer.
With inflation rates not seen in over 40 years. In addition to lapping trillions of dollars in stimulus funding from the prior year. It presents a unique challenge for the UO North America customer.
We know the macro environment for the urban customer may remain challenging for some period. We also know we can execute better.
The brand's inventory is higher than where we would like it to be and we are focused on correcting those inventory levels throughout the second quarter.
As a result of a difficult Q2 comparison macro environment headwinds and execution opportunities, we believe <unk> could deliver a negative comp in the second quarter.
Lastly, I will speak to newly <unk>.
The first quarter was a very strong one for newly rent.
No. We finally experienced a period with limited COVID-19 interruption and the business was well positioned to capitalize on the customers' interest in fashion and going out.
Marketing campaigns continue to build brand and concept awareness in addition to driving robust customer growth.
Active subscribers ended Q1 up nearly 200% versus Q1 last year and up nearly 50% from the end of Q4.
The brand outperformed our expectations with stronger growth in new subscribers more reactivated subscribers and greater subscriber retention than plant.
Momentum build throughout the quarter and as of today. The brand has over 82000 active paying subscribers.
We're looking forward to continuing to grow the newly customer base and our learnings over the coming year.
I will now turn the call over to Melanie brain upfront, our chief Financial Officer.
Thank you Frank now I will discuss our thoughts on our second quarter and full fiscal year 'twenty three financial performance.
As you think about sales growth for the second quarter, it's important to keep the prior period comparisons in mind as a reminder, we had exceptional comp sales improvement in Q2 last year as COVID-19 restrictions lifted and the consumer purchasing accelerating it.
Last year, we reported comparable retail segment growth of 10% in Q1 with Q2 accelerating 12 full comp points to a robust 22%, while we still believe that we can grow sales in Q2 this year versus last year's impressive number we believe our retail segment comp.
Sales growth could land in the low single digit range and wholesale segment sales could grow in the mid single digits. Together. This would result in total company sales growth in the low single digit range now onto gross profit margin.
As a reminder, second quarter gross margin last year significantly benefited from unsustainably record low markdown rates as demand exploded and inventory levels could not keep pace due to last year's exceptionally low markdown rates at all brands. We are planning for increased rates in Q2 this year.
Additionally, our current inventory levels, mostly at the urban Outfitters brand in North America are higher than we would like and could lead to higher markdowns versus last year's low levels.
Also as the supply chain challenges continue to drive higher freight costs. Our initial product margins will continue to be negatively impacted.
The combination of higher markdown rates and lower initial product margins could result in an approximate 500 basis point decline in gross profit margins for the second quarter based on today's current sales performance and plan now moving on to SG&A based on our current sales performance and plan.
We believe SG&A growth for the second quarter will increase in the low double digits.
Our planned growth in SG&A is primarily due to increased store labor costs versus prior year.
This could result in SG&A rate deleveraged versus last year, but we would expect SG&A rate as a percentage of net sales to come more in line with previous years.
We are currently planning our effective tax rate to be approximately 24% for the second quarter and 25% for full year fiscal year 'twenty three.
Now moving on to inventory.
Our inventory is elevated in the first quarter due to several factors.
First inventory costs have increased as a result of higher freight and raw material costs.
Second last year's inventory was significantly constrained due to supply chain disruptions.
Third as supply chain disruptions have persisted we have extended our inventory lead times and are holding more inventory earlier than normal to ensure that we have adequate inventory to protect sale.
Lastly, urban Outfitters brand sales came in lower than plan in Q1, resulting in their inventory being higher than where we want it to be.
Due to all of those factors just discussed we believe that overall inventory levels in the second quarter will continue to be elevated although we are planning for urban inventory to show meaningful and Christmas.
Capital expenditures for the fiscal year are planned at approximately $225 million, while lower than last year. The level of spend is still elevated due to installation of our automation equipment and our new North America distribution facility, just outside of Kansas City, Kansas.
This facility will support the growth and expansion of our retail segment business in North America by providing more efficient and faster logistics.
Lastly, we will be opening approximately 38, new stores and closing approximately 16 stores during fiscal 'twenty three.
Our new store number includes 12, new free people movement stores this year.
As a reminder, the foregoing does not constitute a forecast but is simply a reflection of our current views the company disclaims any obligation to update forward looking statements.
Now I am pleased to turn the call back to <expletive>.
Thank you Melanie and thank you Frank that concludes our prepared remarks.
I want to thank our brand creative insurance service leaders I also want to thank our 23000 associates worldwide for their hard work dedication and amazing creativity.
Thank our many partners around the world for their extra efforts.
US overcome numerous supply chain disruptions.
And finally I, thank our shareholders for their continued interest and support.
I will now turn the call over for your questions. As a reminder, please limit your questions to one per caller.
Thank you if you have a question at this time. Please press star one on your attach tone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue. Please press the pound key.
Please limit your questions to one per caller.
Your first question comes from the line of Kimberly Greenberger of Morgan Stanley . Your line is open.
Okay, great. Thanks, so much.
I wanted to know if you could just comment on operating cost inflation that you are experiencing.
Obviously, we saw great cost start to rise in the back half of the year last year, how many more quarters of freight cost inflation do you have and then are you experiencing.
Any further pressure on distribution center and store wages here in 2022. Thank you.
Hi, Kimberly. Thank you for the question. This is Frank so, yes, we're still experiencing higher freight inbound cost.
I would say similar to the recent trend and by recent trend that would mean fourth quarter.
It was significantly higher than how we would normally operate something inbound freight perspective.
I would anticipate those costs remaining pretty consistent into the second quarter.
And then we believe that the rate of deleverage as it relates to <unk>, which is mostly impacted by the inbound freight costs would start to reduce in the third quarter and that there is an opportunity for improvement when we look at the fourth quarter now. Please please keep in mind that this is our view as it sits today there is a lot of them.
Certainty out there right now <unk> got shutdowns going on in China, you got a potential strike port strike here in the U S. You've got a war going on in Ukraine. So this is our view as we sit there as we sit today, but.
No.
Best of the best view that we have as it relates to store payroll.
Right now.
I'd say there are certain pockets, where there is pressure from a store payroll perspective, but for the most part that is baked into our forecast and from a distribution center I would say right now.
We're sitting in pretty good shape as it relates to as it relates to payroll like I said, though a lot of things can change as it relates to inflation.
Your next question comes from the line of Lorraine Hutchinson of Bank of America. Your line is open.
Thank you good afternoon.
Could you talk a little bit about any pricing actions you've taken at any of the brands if youre seeing any pushback from customers and then also just.
Just a quick update on the 500 basis points of new opportunities that you outlined last quarter, if we might see any of that come to fruition. This year to help offset some of these higher operating costs.
Hey, Marino tried to handle a few a few of those questions.
First of all the pricing action, yes, we have been selectively.
Raising some of our prices.
And to date, we really haven't seen much in the way of reaction from customers that we can determine that based on the increased prices.
Now, having said that we've seen a little bit more.
I wouldn't call it pushback, but a little bit more hesitancy on the part of some of the urban customers and we believe it's because they are a little bit more impacted by.
Inflation.
Given their status.
In life.
As younger and not as affluent so I think that.
But as far as Anthropologie and free people is concerned.
We have seen.
And the second part of your question I can jump in on that topic. So as it relates to the 500 basis points of IMU opportunity, Yes, we absolutely still believe that that opportunity exists over the next coming several years I would tell you as it relates to as it relates to this year.
Similar to what we just spoke to Kimberly about I would expect our IMU deleverage to be pretty consistent in the second quarter is what you saw in the first quarter starting to Peel that back a little bit in Q3, and then actually being able to show improvement year over year in the fourth quarter as some of those strategies really begin really began to take hold obviously to get the full.
500, some of the strategies have a longer lead time as well as we're going to need to see a more steady grounded more normalization in the supply chain inbound freight cost than where we're at right now but to be totally honest.
Only one quarter.
We're not we're not really surprised by that.
Cost environment that where it sits today.
And we have made some progress.
On our product distortions.
Some of those style counts.
And then raise the.
Quantities, they're ordering which is driven.
Some very nice increases in IMU in several cases.
We've also employed more vendor direct production methods.
And that has reduced slightly some of our agency fees.
Frank said this is very early days and we're.
Making some progress but.
Unfortunately, we've got some.
Very heavy wins that we're facing.
From the supply chain.
Yes.
Your next question comes from the line of Paul Lajoie of Citigroup. Your line is open.
Hey, Thanks, guys.
Can you just talk about the urban Outfitters, North America business curious if you can share what the comp metrics, where traffic conversion ticket and then what sort of increases are you seeing on the AUC side from your third party brands, so it sort of sort of <unk>.
<unk>.
Increases are you.
Are you going to try to put through to the customer and I'm curious if that's getting larger as we move throughout the year. Thanks.
Hi, Paul It Sheila.
Just to start with urban Outfitters North America.
Execution side of the business, we feel like.
Men's business was particularly disappointing.
Identified and isolated.
The team.
With the off track and I believe our men's business.
Clear visibility to get back on track going into third and fourth quarter. We also within our women's business.
Massive win towards new fashion and.
Just step away from some of the older fashion as quickly as we needed to so you'll see a change of distortion going into those where the customer is choosing going into the third quarter and the no.
That way.
Uh huh.
As far as traffic is concerned our AUR and <unk> continued to be up versus history slightly down to last year.
Versus fiscal 'twenty.
And our version is similar.
More spot to historical metrics.
Yes.
As it relates to traffic.
The urban brand is the most challenged of the three.
All three brands are still.
Under their FY 'twenty traffic patterns.
And.
Urban has slightly higher penetration of stores in places like New York City, Chicago, San Francisco, where the traffic is most challenged so we believe while we've made substantial progress in the last.
Youre in the half.
We still have a long way to go, particularly with the urban brand.
Yeah.
Your next question comes from the line of Mark.
Shapiro of theory.
Bill Tracker your line is open.
Hi, everybody.
<expletive>.
I'd just like to take a step back from all the noise of the expenses in distribution and everything and talk about the underlying business for a minute could you.
Focusing just a little bit on Anthropologie, because really great improvement there over a couple of years. Prior if you could talk a little bit about what's really driving full price sales there is coming back in.
Buying more than months and then it sounds like just from that last comment even at urban.
It sounds like the customer is still very much fashion engaged it's just that the fashion. She moved to fashion very quickly and it sounds like you guys didn't have enough of the fashion that she was looking for and what she didn't want it didn't matter how.
Typical for urban Outfitters, it didn't matter what the price was if she didn't want it she didn't want it. She wanted to it was new and hot can you just dig into those thoughts sure.
Thank you Marni I'm going to do is ask Tricia to talk about anthropologie because.
It's much closer to it.
Great job.
Overseeing it so tricia do you want to take a shot at that time Arnie.
I think as Frank mentioned the primary drivers of the Anthropologie growth came from a significant investment in categories like dresses recognizing that there was customers returning to the occasion.
But that was not.
Limited to our strategy overall, we definitely see the customer returned to.
Travel again, we launched a capsule collection geared towards resort.
Swimwear Coverups all of those categories are performing incredibly well and we really wanted to make sure that we were addressing the need for whatever form of return to office happen for our customers. So really invested in heavily into all of the newness that's happening in bottoms.
Footwear, we expanded that category and further expanded our shoe assortment online into more stores.
And I'm happy to share that just behind dresses and footwear were our top performing categories.
And really our longer term strategy is to continue to.
<unk> our investments in these categories. So feeling good about the customer's demand She's got places to go and we're trying to prioritize and execute really volatile.
Two.
Invest significantly in those categories, and then ensure that our marketing messaging.
Well.
Okay. Thank you.
But you didn't say anything about your book, Yes, I do.
Thank the urban customer coming out of it.
Locked down from the previous year definitely told us loud and clear that they wanted very specific items and fashion trends.
We were happy to have them, we wished we had them slightly more just started and I think the teams are reacting accordingly.
<unk>.
And.
It keeps us press it definitely keeps us on our toes definitely clean new attributes.
Leading the way in the industry.
So that feels very good we just need to own a stronger going into the next.
And I would say that all the brands very similar patterns of fashion.
All brands.
Well in their dress assortments they.
They did well in their pants and denim assortment.
They did well and their Bios assortment, so I think that.
I think there are some similarities across brands, although the manifestation of those.
Categories.
We are different across the three brands so.
Yes good.
Good morning. Thank you so much for the question because in the end. This is what we talk about fashion and that's what interests most.
Even though.
We have to pay attention to things like supply chain.
Your next question comes from the line of Mark <unk> of Robert W. Baird <unk> Company. Your line is open.
Good afternoon, Thanks for taking my question.
You called out some of the macro challenges on that consumer but also the execution opportunities that you see maybe just dig into that a little bit more and help us understand some of the controllable levers you see to drive growth.
Looks to be a little bit tougher macro backdrop.
And then bigger picture <expletive>.
It would be helpful to get your view on the health of the it may be more mid to upper income consumer and the duration of this wardrobe refresh cycle.
Three months ago, you were pretty positive on the signs youre seeing there.
Despite some of the macro readings that had been softening just curious if your views have changed.
At all on that front again beyond sort of what you already discussed on <unk>. Thank you.
Yes, I'll take the second question first we do believe that there is a sort of bifurcation there.
That has happened as a result of the inflation.
And as a result of the.
Stimulus checks that were set out last year.
As you know.
The urban customer tends to be the.
Younger ones that are out on their first job or maybe second job and theyre, making a little bit less money than they're anthropologie and free people counterparts.
As a result of that.
Inflation is really hitting them much harder than the anthropologie and free people customer.
That that sort of higher income bracket of those two brands.
We don't see any side right.
Right now of inflation impacting their buying decisions.
I am very convinced that estimates.
Impacting their buying decisions and exactly what Tricia talked about which is they want to be.
They have lots of events to go to weddings and many many other things and the reason why I can say that is that we have this.
Concept called terrain and within trade we have.
Thing called training events, where we actually.
Sponsor events and rent out space.
And I can tell you that we've never ever been.
Yes.
More inundated with requests for <unk>.
Since then we have in the last six months. So we're well aware of the fact that she is out and that she wants to go to these events and she's going to spend our money to prepare for those events. So she looks good during the event that's what's driving her that's what's important term.
So we're very.
We're convinced that this is going to continue to go on.
More than anything it's because the.
The event space that we do have is fully booked through next year. So.
We believe that's going to continue.
Great and then.
<unk> discussed urban.
And what is in our control versus the macro headwind.
Like I led with men definitely is a place that we felt like we had more control over I think the team delivered.
Very very strong denim.
Increases.
Really tackled that as a priority business for the execution was quite strong versus history. Do you believe that will only continue with the strength of the team the Boston study and within that we feel like we can easily get that back into the business that is more.
Hum.
Reactor bolt quicker.
Within the women's business I think it was being a little bit braver within the fashion trends.
And turning the business coming out of the pandemic.
It wasn't known.
So I do think the team recognizes that we need to stay focused on what we can control and that definitely is the controllable.
Uh huh.
Okay. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of China Kloppenburg of T. J P Research Associates. Your line is open.
Hi, everybody and congrats on the good progress.
And getting the fashion right.
Thanks.
I was wondering if you could perhaps give us.
Glenn how the point.
Expense supply chain expense pressures look beyond the second quarter, and how we should be thinking about.
Some relief in the second half.
Do you think things will improve or are you seeing things improve.
That would help a lot.
And then.
I was wondering I was impressed at the home business was up.
In the quarter, maybe it was up at Anthropologie.
And I was wondering about trends there because we are seeing some softness in the industry and the home categories. So maybe for both you and <unk>.
How that is looking as we move to the second quarter and beyond thank you.
Thanks for your question Janet I'll take the.
Great and then hand over to home to Trish and Sheila to talk about.
So as mentioned I do think that.
IMU deleverage, which is largely driven by the increased freight costs will look similar in the second quarter then.
It did in the first but as you noted.
Do you start to think that we'll claw back that rate of deleverage in the third quarter. So the deleverage wouldn't be as much as what we saw in Q1 and Q2 and I do believe that there is opportunity, but in the fourth quarter for us to show improvement in <unk> on a year over year basis, So again sorry.
Starting to see some of the benefits of the initiatives that we put in place as well as hopefully a little bit of normalization.
As it relates to the supply chain and then lastly, obviously, we're also anniversarying higher cost by the time, we get into the fourth quarter. So I think the Q3, you will see improvement.
Not improvement year over year, but improvement in the rate of deleverage as we start to claw that back and then by the time you get into the fourth quarter, but I think we could see improvement on a year over year basis within <unk> again.
We sit today as we sit here today.
Hi, Janet.
That anthropologie answered living as we think about the home category.
That's a bit of a mixed performance within the category. So overall our performance was strong in the mid single digit growth on the quarter with furniture and decor really be in the categories that are continuing with our growth trajectory and demand and we're pleased with it.
That would seem to be gaining market share there.
Definitely a bit of a slowdown for us in certain gift and entertaining categories Hum fragrance in particular.
And mark kind of experiential categories.
Dr shifting nicely back to pre pandemic retail.
<unk> levels, but we're definitely seeing some softening in DTC.
And then I think.
On a positive side, we're definitely seeing customers interested in entertaining at home again.
And so we're focusing on expanding kind of tabletop glassware start where all of those categories and feel like we've got some new growth opportunities to invest.
Definitely some softening in some deceleration in the business that we feel confident that we're continuing to see nice growth in the home category without apology.
I think within the urban slightly different story I think the softening is.
Stronger than income Anthropologie within the pharma business.
We have increased our pricing here.
In a tremendous way over the past several years.
Feel very confident this will continue to be an opportunity division as we settle back into key categories that we can expand into.
All right.
Yes, just the strong winter weather.
Urban team.
We have a real opportunity for back to school.
You do better than we did last year.
Back to school business wasn't as strong as we would've liked last year or so.
I think that's our earliest opportunity.
Your next question comes from the line of Dana Telsey of Telsey Advisory Group. Your line is open.
Good afternoon, everyone. As you think about the different channels, certainly seems like the return of stores, improving and the labor cost with that attitude, the SG&A and getting trapped working to get traffic back. How do you think of the buckets of SG&A going forward with some of those areas and any update on digital and what.
You saw in that performance and margin by brand. Thank you.
Yeah, It's Melanie I'm going to start with your first question, which was about SG&A growth.
Going forward, we do expect SG&A growth to outpace our sale.
But not quite as much as you saw in the first quarter.
The drivers would be similar to first quarter, where we had store payroll increase increasing as the past.
Traffic came back versus prior year and of course, we continue.
Marketing investments.
With your focus on driving customer acquisition and retention.
But just wanted to remind you as you think about SG&A.
The acceleration is really about the comparison right, where we had really really tight spending in our stores. So the rate SG&A rate as a percentage of sales would be more in line with ours.
Historical SG&A and as you get further through the year the difference between the sales growth in the SG&A growth will will be diminished as our expense spend became more normalized in the back half of the year versus the first.
As it relates to digital Dana.
Because the stores were largely impaired in Q1 of last year.
There was a surge in demand.
When the stores open.
And.
That caused.
Record strong double digit gains in Q1.
This year in the first quarter stores rebounded nicely and registered double digit comps.
Total sessions decreased by low single digits.
Main up almost 30% versus FY 'twenty, so really what happened is.
The digital.
Pulled back.
Some of the forward.
<unk> achieved over the last several years as these stores comped backup.
Alright next question comes from the line of <unk> of UBS. Your line is open.
Great. Thank you so much I guess I just wanted to maybe if you can share a little bit more.
[noise] formation elaborate a little bit on the composition of the excess inventory at urban Outfitters. When do you expect to get into a better inventory position do you expect to take actions in Q2 in order to get to Q3.
And that better inventory position, where you think there should be more of a prolonged impact. Thank you.
Hi, it's still again I'll take that question.
Our being aggressive to clean up but the customer has voted.
They don't want from us.
And recognize that we can get this back on track before.
Q3.
We feel very strongly that we need to.
What they don't want into what they do.
So feel very confident by Q3, we'll be backing up and necrotic condition.
Okay.
Your next question comes from the line of Ike Rachel All Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Hey, two questions.
I guess my first question was on the profitability just looking at the Q1 numbers and putting the pieces together for Q2, it kind of looks like the margins are now kind of trending back to the pre pandemic levels I know, there's a lot of moving pieces, but is that a good way to think about the back half of the year. When we are trying to model out Q3, and Q4 and then just another question.
On Anthro, you guys are doing a phenomenal job on the business.
It's been robust, but I guess, when you think about that customer being more affluent tied to the market and things like that what are the things you are looking for to kind of gauge the health of that consumer and her willingness to continue to spend.
This is Frank I can take the profitability and then hand, it over to Tricia to speak a little more about anthro.
So you are correct as we're sitting here looking at the second quarter.
Gross profit margin declined would actually put us pretty pretty in line actually with where we were pre pandemic in fiscal 'twenty I think what's important to note. Though is obviously the supply chain is really different right now than it was in fiscal 'twenty.
And if you think about an opportunity to build off of that fiscal 'twenty number we would anticipate being able to drive improvement in IMU.
We talked about a lot of our strategies, there and as the supply chain hopefully normalizes.
Overtime, so yes in the near term.
As youre looking at fiscal 'twenty, and being able to compare our numbers for Q2 and Q3.
A good comparison, but we do think that there is.
Some some nice healthy growth that we can continue to drive off of those rates and certainly off of those dollars.
Look when you look into fiscal 'twenty, four and going forward in the back half of the year.
And I think what we look for with Anthropologie is what we look forward each of the brands and that is.
On a daily basis.
Annualized sales on a weekly basis, we analyze traffic in the stores.
And that tells us pretty darn close.
Things start to change.
And as I said to you we have not seen any indications today.
That customer has changed and so we're not necessarily expecting it.
Very well aware I believe me that.
The market is down.
And that could impact her and.
Cause a psychological change.
And her mood to shop.
But as I said, there is no indication of it right now.
Okay.
Your next question comes from the line of times children of BMO capital markets. Your line is open.
Hey, Thanks for squeezing me in just a quick one on the inventory I was wondering if you could provide any color on what it looks like in terms of units by brand.
That's all thanks.
Yes. So this is Frank I'll take the I'll take the inventory question and I'm going to sort of take a long path here I think first it's important to remember that as you're comparing inventory to last year. This was.
Significantly constrained last year, our inventory was meaningfully lower than where we wanted it to be so.
If you look at things versus fiscal 'twenty, our comp inventory is up 33% and our comp sales versus fiscal 2022%. So very much much more in line and then when you look at it on a year over year basis.
Yes, absolutely there is inflationary pressures.
In there, which is why our cost is higher than our unit.
I'd say, our cost is higher than our units by about by about 15 about 15 point right now which is the inflation that youre seeing in there.
Also just a second the other item that's driving up the inventory.
Fact that the supply chain is on unstable ground right now and it's not as reliable as it used to be we are placing orders earlier and we are taking inventory in earlier.
We believe it's the right thing to do to protect sale.
And we're going to continue to do that so I think youre going to expect to see inventory continue to outpace sales here as we closed the second quarter.
And then very similar to what Sheila mentioned about the urban Outfitters brand as we get into the third quarter, you'll start to see that.
That delta starts to narrow and then as we get into the fourth quarter will have the opportunity.
Sales and inventory you actually would be come back and be more in line with what you are historically used to seeing from us.
Thank you.
And our last question comes from the line of Cory time of Jefferies. <unk> Company. Your line is now open.
Hi, good afternoon, and thank you for taking my questions.
Firstly, how are you thinking about the promotional environment for the remainder of this year versus your initial expectations and then secondarily. It was nice to see some encouraging and robust growth from newly can you maybe unpack a little bit about what drove that and what to expect at that brand going for at that segment excuse me going forward. Thanks.
Okay.
I'll take the promo question and then ask Dave came to us.
Talk about newly.
I think that there is a surplus of inventory.
Mostly I would say across the board.
At retail right now and so I would expect the promotional activity.
Like we have in our own brands to be a little bit elevated over where it was last year as Frank just said last year was an anomaly.
We couldnt get the inventory.
Really tight.
It's not as tight now.
And so I.
I think that.
We'll see promotional activity increase.
Just in Q2, but throughout the year and into holiday.
Dave you want to take Julie Yes, sure Cory Thanks, a lot for the question queue.
Q1 was a really strong one for newly rent we were excited by the results and excited to report them as Frank mentioned in his commentary subscribers were up nearly 200% year over year, and nearly 50% quarter over quarter from the fourth quarter.
And now.
In May we have over 82000 subscribers.
Scriber growth was strong across all segments with new subscribers substantially ahead of plans resume subscriptions were trending ahead nicely as well in existing subscribers were retaining at higher rates than planned as well.
So the rental business has been seeing some very nice traction so far in 2022.
Getting strong reads from the market that our target customers have a lot of events to go to and.
And just in general a lot of ways to get back to living after COVID-19.
So I think.
More and more people are recognizing that renting through newly as viable enjoyable and.
Cost effective way to add variety to their wardrobe for all of their events.
So subscription momentum is very positive right now we're also very encouraged with our progress on bottom line profitability.
Last year's first quarter saw an operating loss rate in the low 40% range.
Our loss rate in this past first quarter by.
By contrast was in the mid teens, so seeing very significant operating margin leverage in Q1 versus last year.
So feeling really good about the progress and the operating model and.
Doing great with where we are.
Okay, I think that.
That concludes the questions. So thank you very much for joining and we look forward to talking to you in three months.
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