Q1 2022 Kingsoft Cloud Holdings Ltd Earnings Call
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Thank you Nico, and thank you all for joining our 2022 first quarter earnings call. In the first quarter, we generated R? Ing the two point one seven billion in total revenues, which was an increase of two 20% year-over-year and above the high end of our revenue guidance range.
Our publicty cloud services revenues reached rmthe one point three eight billion, remaining stable year-over-year, and our enterprise cloud services revenues reached RMB 792.5 billion, up 89% year-over-year.
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As previously communicated, starting from the second half of 2021, the Internet sector fac pressures from market headwind, new regulations and the epidemic.
For public clou services. traffic-driven demand continued to grow, But at a pace slower than before, as Internet companies focused more on high-quality development.
In respons to the market change, we initiated our strategic adjustments in the fourth quarter last year. We have proactively downsized our CDN services and allocated more resources to core clou services, including computing storage and enterprise cloud, facilitating their fast growth.
We are pleased today that we had completed the strategic adjustments plan for this quarter, which started to bear fruit.
Growth billings from core clap services increased 61% year-over-year and exceed our guidance.
The proactive downsizing adjustments of the CDN services is progressing in an orderly manner. In Q1, the gross billings for CD services decreased 20% year-over-year.
In terms of profitability. Our initiatives to comp costs and improved efficiency have delivered substantial results, with our adjusted growth margin improving to 4% from 1% in the fourth quarter 2021.
In future quarters, we expect to continuously evaluate and dynamically optimize resources allocation, inenhcounousting business agility and promoting gradual improvements of profitability.
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Since the beginning of March, the coh resurgence across China and the corresponding prevention measures adopted significantly slowdown market demand and severely interrupted offline business operations.
For us. In response to the continued slowdown of the traffic-driven demands in Internet sets, we proactively scale down CDM services, while the worldth off computing services among public cou services remain strong as growth buildillings of computing achieved a 45% year-over-year growth.
As a result, our public cloud servories, it remains stable as a whole.
In terms of our enterprise clou services, the market demand potential remained enormous. However, the epidemic fee to cost, delays in bidding, delivery and acceptance check of cloud projects.
Our customer fronts, benefiting from our premium customer strategy and the robust business operations such customers enjoy. We're able to maintain stable relationships with our existing premium customers, while strengthening our efforts to expand our customer base with industry vertical leaders.
For example, in the first quarter we teamed up with CM to sign our first partnership agreement with genk forest, a fast-growing coverage brand in China.
Overall in the short term, we still face challenges from the macro environment.
For this year, we plan to focus on quality growth, margin improvements and core industry verticals.
In the long run. We believe that the ongoing trends for digital transformation, where enterprises increased cloud adoption to drive efficiency and safe costs, remains intact and will keep driving massive demand for our business.
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Internet companies have been transferring more nontraffic-driven business operations from their internal on-premise environment onto cloud services.
Therefore computing services growth remains strong.
We'd also like to mention that on the gaming front, with the recent release of several gaming licenses, we're actively engaging our gaming customers on their incremental cloud servies needs and are making progress in our corporation with csun gme, along with another top gaming company, to support the launch of their new games.
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Enterprises and institutions across the Board have been increasingly turning to cloud at the natural choice of digital transformation.
However the epidemic has disrupted the pace of such demand caoing, delays to project timeline and increases in delivery costs.
To mitigate the impact.
We are implementing a higher project of quality standard and margin thresholds.
In the public services sector. We want the bid to build a one-dop rental housing E platform for guoang industrial development heldings Park. The platform allows users to off various roles to operate, manage and provide the affordable rental housing services for the city.
As a leading cloud company with core technology capabilities, we continue to take part in theinternational projects transporting data from Eastern regions to Western regions for storage and calculation or, in Chinese, funal asssement.
Besides the pilot project for the tenyang cluster in guno computing hub, which is one of the 10 national clusters, we expect to seize more opportunities in big data and computing projects.
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In the financial services sector to continue to dive deeper into top customers' need for cloud services in multiple scenarios, deliver industry Lighthouse projects and keep perfecting our solutions offering.
With timelnot joining at us. We ve further expanded our coverage of top financial servic customers.
We announced 90% of China's top 20 banks and have been continuously having cooperation dimensions. Take some of our key account projects. For example, during this quarter, in ventking space, we want the? B to provide data management and cloud infrastructure products to icbc technology to jointly build a unified financial service and management buvees.
In insurance base. We will provide public cloud services to China life insurance, a leading insurance company in China. This represents an important landmark project as a pioneer insurance companies transitioning from on-premisits deployment to hybrid cloud environment by improving their recognition of public cloud.
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In the Healthcare sector, digitalization upgradees has become a key topic for medical institutions, regional healthcare networks and smart health cities since kovid started.
Healthcare. Cloud collutions needed to address several challenges, including the magnitude of data size, complicated structure, high storage requirements for image data and varying digitalizational levels among regions.
A robust and stable digital value infrastructure provides the foundation for the value of maximization of data assets.
And clust service companies like us. T proved to be an essential component of the digital upgrade for the health care industry.
As the epidemic, ressearch in Shanghai and counsel profits. Since March, we took quick action and urgently deployed our teams, togetherchter with cloud infrastructure resources, to support local containment efforts.
We thought about barginginfrastructure dedicated to coinion of pseudo city for esamic containment.
The infrastructure enabled data collection aggregation governance analysis, integration and sharing, providing high-quality and stable data support.
In hobea province. Following our success with the health care project in hube province and buhan city, we want another project to building an information system for special disease prevention and control, where we will be building a middle pliform.
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In conclusion, the complex economic environment and epadmic resurgence this year have put pressure on the short terrun growth.
But thanks to the strategic adjustments since Q4 last year, we have laid solid foundation for mid to long-term revenue expansion and margin improvement.
Cloud computing carries long-term potentials. Looking ahead, we will adhere to our strategic direction and pursue daddy in the high-quality development, while improving our business stability and profitability.
We will fully leverage our technological strength to provide stable and efficient cloud services to our premium customer base.
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Central uning and I web on everyone for joining a call. Before turning to the financial detail, I would like to walk you through the following highs for the past quarter.
First of all, our total revenue reached two point one seven billion rmp in Q1, above a high end of our items, which ranange from two point zero five.
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At the represent of growth of 20% year-over-year. Within that, our core cloud servicies, including computing storage and anerprized cloud servaties, increased by 61% year-over-year this quarter.
Second we are pleased to see that we have been making significant progress in our cost control strategy exfusion.
The adjusted gross profit for this quarter increased by 152% quarter-over-quarter to 83.6 million RMB.
Adjusted growth margin increased largely from 1% in previous quarter to 4% this quarter.
Adjusted the EBITDA margin, narrowed from ntive ten point fac cent in the previous quarter to a ntive 7% this quarter, as we introduced in last quarter. As the new technology budgets from Internet factor cliines in general had been increasing at a slower pace than expected.
Starting from second half of last year, the demand to us has been softened and affect our resource efficiency cannot ded to the bottom line.
In response to the market change since Q4 last year, we proactively diffze our cim services and allocated more resources to our core cloud services.
We have taken active cost control measures and improved overall operational efficiency.
Even though we are still facing a challenging microeconomic environment, we believe we are on track to achieve quarterly adjusted EBITDA margin breaking keven in Q4 th 2020 -two.
Third as of March thirty-first 2022, we had cash and a cash equivalent and short term investment.
Amounting to five point six bill RMB, providing our sufficient liquidity for operations.
A CapEx for this quarter was 622.4 million in the.
This increase was primarily due to the procurement of high-performance service which, caterling to our increasing demand from our core comclputing services, as well as the cash payment for the service we ordered last quarter.
For the full year 2022, we expect to keep our total capital expenditure plan in the range of one larrd to one point factory AMB.
We firmly exeued our high-quality development targets and allocated onlying server resources prudently to our core cloud service growth.
Last our Board Directors has recently authorized a company to repurchase up to one million U's dollar of our ordinary shares in a form of American depository shares during a 12 -month period. Today we are pleased to announce that we have entered into a share repurchase program which, demonstrating our strong confidence in a company growth and a commitment to a generating long-ter value to our shareholders.
I will now go through our financials in detailers.
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40 45% year-over-year worth of our computing services and offset by 20% -over-year decreased our whole CN business.
Which proactively narrowed down in terms of enterprise class services. Even though the COVID-19 has disrupted delivery of certain off-line products, market demand from traditional enterprises and izations remain strong. Our enterprise class services achieved a solid increase of py-nine percent year-over-year to a 792 Min.
In terms of compst control and oftenamtheation, we have achieved effectiveness. This quarter total car of revenues decreased by 20%.
Quarter of orarder to two point zero nine be and B.
The ADC cost decreased by 221.6 million M from last quarter to one point one one billion mb. This quarter had remained consistent of birwest.
And a cabinet cost and a deepcreested trend was in line with our adjustment of idiom business.
Solution development and services. Cost decreased by 8% quarter quarter to sell 100 to 476 minab.
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deprestiationia and amortiuration cost increased by 10% quiteoa a quarter to 246 millionaire B.
Fulfillment costs will 108, four point five minillion B this quarter and it represents the cost of purchasing technologies, products and facilices from third party to fulfillment the demand of our solutions.
Other costs were 76.9 minuteion on of the this quarter.
In terms of expenses. We have completed the preliminary pollinization optimization and efficiency improvement.
Resulting personnel expenses decreased compared with Q4 last year.
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How do adjust the operation expenses while 532 mill AMB increased sequentially by 10% from 578.7 million andb in Q4 last year?
Within that, adjusted on the expenses were 221.7 million, compared with 200 and fory six point two million in the last quarter, adjusted selling and marketing expenses were 127.6 million.
Compared with 161 minill-out last quarter. Adjusted genic expenses remain stable at 174 mb.
As of March 30, first 2022, we had a sufficient of cash and a cash equivalence and short-term deposits of five point six billion in mb.
D ear quarter caolic expenditures were 622 points.
Formula the increase was mainly due to the increasing purchase of high end performance services to meet the incremental demand from strategic core services of computing and storage.
We expect our full year. Capex were ranked from one to one point five D a.
Which will be prudently allocated to meet the demand from our core cloud services.
Meanwhile, we have released our DSC in the mental, social and the govervenant report for 2021, along with our annual point earnings may.
We would have highlight that the Nominating that corporate, the covenant Committee of the Board, will primarily responsible for overseeing ESG initiatives at a boall level.
And the company has appointed, at a first, independent female for Directors, enhancing gender diversity and a workplace inclusivity.
Looking ahead, we keep focusing on a balance between new revenue expansion and the margin improvement.
We expect our total revenue to be between two billion the and a two point two bill B for the second quarter of 20 and 20, tworepresenting a year-over-year increase of about negative pereffect to positive one point two cent.
It is mainly due to the offline fulfillment delay of neras cloud business.
In the middle of the short term. COVID-19 ressearchers.
We have continue to embrace opportunities poamic.
We're offering a view that our profitability will keep it upward trend. The adjusted gross marketing will continuously will be higher in the second quarter compared with Q1.
Other the stable market condition assumptions would believe we are on track to achieve quarterly adjusted EBITDA margin breakeven by Q4 on thirget two.
All these forecasts and comments above are based on our current and preliminary views of the market and operational conditions, which are subject to change.
In addition, based on the cominga market condition, would have already common a share repurchase program which was authorized by the bal March to purchase up 100 minillion U's dollar of the share's during a wel-month period.
We were closely hearing from the feedback from shareholders and a deliber value of cre our shareholders.
Finally while moving forward with our Hong Kong stock exchange listing plan and well on track with the progress.
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Independent listing status in both Hong Kong and the? U's to maximize protection our shareholders.
Given the recent positive progress in the negotiation on the final? U's audits in Corporation, compbined with fluctuuration in the global capital market, we we will carecfully monitor proactively adjust our execution timeline to safeguard the interests of our existing shareholders.
We'll look closely, monitor the market together, other anmaturary dynamics and a proceedved food entity at the right time.
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Now for the, for the public clou side, our communication with our key mion customers, those net customers included, has been very MO and we have a very open most channel communicating with them. So desp, all the changes and challenges that we mentioned, those are things that's not outside of our expectation, for both the, as you can see, and all the evidence by the numbers that we just disclosed in the first quarter. So both the existing customers and new customers there has been aggressively we have to grow for the usage of the nontraffic driven demand. So that that's something that to to know. And also in terms of competitive dynamics, we think that for the veryt industrial verticals that we focusing mainly the, the financial services Internet, the public service in health care, the varied entry in those partictical vertical sha relatively high and we think after this many years of operation our competitive answer has been reinforing. So we think we do not be really material change in this, in this in the enterprise, comareditive dynamics.
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First of all, if you remember, in the recent this clo and our dollar retention rate for the public cloud clients for last year was around one unfourunteen percent. So even consider the active decrease of the CD revenue contribution but this number is loading basis into the Q1 this year. We still believe above home percent. So that's actually as a base of the growth of the revenue opportunities across the Board of the public cloud clients. And the second point is if you look at our first mix of the revenue of the CD versus the computing business, in Q1 our computing business itself actually delired very solid growth, around 40% on a yoyear basis. That in this number is also above the industry average in Q1, especially in a very difficult market conditions.
So if you are putting the two numbers together you may see re number bus to the fundamental demand of the computing demand for from our Internet client base, actually pretty OK. And if you crossp checked the number without Cove expenditures in Q they year with spend out coming many R, you can tell that the money we spent, basically the servers and high end infrastructures, already started to producing revenue in Q1 immediately. So if there is a lot of risk going Su regarding the demand of the client then our covered expenditure will not be convert ular revenue so quickly and effici Q1, especially for the storage and computing business. I think these are the few numbers you probably can health and form of foundation of the growth, especially from compleing and storage and the relatively higher business from our holy clou clients Thankyou.
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Have take on the first question. There are few important ofidation when we think about planning and budgeting. We want to use opportunity to balan now only the CD revenue contribution but also the top client concentration risk C lawso. There are few important dimensions will track on the annual basis. First of all for 20 twent two we are assuming no single client will contributing more than 20% of the total revenue. King of cloud. And the point number two is we want to assume around 20, five percent for run a range of the CD business as a total revenue. King of clou year financial: ly 20 twent two So when we look at that strategy in Q1 I think we have to see that the CD revenue as a contribution of total revenue of have decrease from historical-ically, let's say fiftythe above 50% ahistorical years to around 30% already below percent in Q1. So the a trend is very clear, an important quarters. I think the absolute dollar revalue of the C revenue will remain vality of the stable it and our total ficency on are working and infrastructures. But as a percentage of total revenue we will see gradually coming down that next few quarters. But I think the two important dimension numbers as I mention in the beginning will be important guidance for missing part whole year mix of the combination I.
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Yes second, ter as N. the second question: buckets of the profitability. You are right, I think we expecting to hit the quarterly breakeven of the non gap EBITDA margin in q4- 20 20, two and, as we also mentioned, we are in week one of June So in Q2 as in, our growth margin will be likely higher than Q1 Y 20, two and hopefully we we keep upward trend in general of the of the course margin. On the second part, you given were doing lot work on the cost control mix and the diversification of the criments. So hopefully our co clli co, cloud services, including computing storage, and at first ST as a whole the total revenue of the buckets will be generally grow at a higher pace compared with the industry average and the major peersand, the thirarch, while we are not providing official guidance for the full year total revenue.
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Yes veryly on sense for, pointed out I think we do, evenielding a very short period of time, which you C o Grids, and solid trend on the results. So you are right, approximately saving our many and beyond C cost. As you know, within the cost item there are leasing expenses- we paid to rent the cabinet- and there are the bandwidth costs which are of the majority of the portion on the IC cost. So the major reason was our adjustments of the CD and business strategies since Q4 last year. But going forward we are still assuming there are few things we're working on- we will have further leverage to decrease the C cost, including there are at a planning of rental of the IC locations, including our budget and a more and abounound technology to saving the energies.
Including a few initiatives were taking to optimize the downloading, upstreaming of the fan wasest capacity and they are using working on that. I franktly don't think that D NA co were go down because, as you know, as spending the CapEx to buying high performance, keep PS and the infrastructures are seen- assuming there is a good capex- that were drive the good revenues. So the D NA expenses- I don't think were- are affecting a lot and that mathematically were not affecting the EBITDA margin as well as that because the D NNA expenses was adding back.
The fulfillment cost and the developments of the solutions, those two items, giving the further integration with a clot where may have further room to reduce the cost of those two items. And that, as were also facing, given we are selling more recurring business and the products were also converting into a higher margin, as we are seeing, there are few important kind, especially in the financial services and health care, were doing or ready phase to Ric. So the initial fulf fulfillment and har expenses will be reduced given the capability and the recurring basis of those revenue.
Regarding the rdsing, we may have some potential room to see a dollar value decrease going forward, while we continue to spend time and resources on a cost strategy and technologies.
The sales and the marketing and the gnaicing. Will we remain relatively flat by cting in? The gna will also have some flatx plated to adjust on.
So we have a very strict, prudent an approach to navigate and prior highest a few different initiatives. But, as seen, those things will be unfolded in the next few quarters. But majority of the war has been completed and Al in placethank.
Right Thank you very much for all your questions, So I'll now turn the call back to nicofor closing remarks.
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Thank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.
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