Q2 2022 Quest Diagnostics Inc Earnings Call
Speaker 2: Good morning. Welcome to the Quest Diagnostic Second Quarter 2022 conference call. At the request of the company, this call is being recorded. The entire contents of the call, including the presentation and question and answer session that will follow are the copyrighted property of Quest Diagnostics with all rights reserved.
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Speaker 2: Now I'd like to introduce Sean Bevick, Vice President of Investor Relations for Quest Diagnostics. Go ahead, please.
Speaker 3: Thank you and good morning. I'm joined by Steve Ruskowski, our Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President, Jim Davis, CEO , elect, Mark Guinin, Chief Financial Officer, and Sam Samad, our incoming Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we may make forward-looking statements and will provide non- GAAP measures . We provide a reconciliation of non- GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures in the tables to earnings press release. Axfer results make different materially from those projected.
Speaker 3: Risks and uncertainties, including the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, that may affect quest diagnostic future results include, but are not limited to those described in our most recent annual report on Form 10K, and subsequently filed quarterly reports on Form 10Q, and current reports on Form 8K. The company continues to believe that the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on future operating results, cash flows and towards financial condition will be primarily driven by the pandemic severity and duration.
Speaker 3: health care insurer, government, and client payer reimbursement for COVID-19 molecular tests, the pandemic's impact on the US healthcare system and the US economy, and the timing, scope, and effectiveness of federal, state, and local governmental responses to the pandemic, including the impact of vaccination efforts, which are drivers beyond the company's knowledge and control.
Speaker 3: Before this call, references to reported EPS refer to reported diluted EPS and references to adjusted EPS refer to adjusted diluted EPS. Any references to base business, testing, revenues, or volumes refer to the performance of our business excluding COVID-19 testing.
Speaker 3: Growth rates associated with our long-term outlook projections, including total revenue growth, revenue growth from acquisitions, organic revenue growth, and adjusted earnings growth are compound annual growth rates. Finally, revenue growth rates from acquisitions will be measured against our base business.
Speaker 3: Now, here is Steve Roszkowski.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Sean, and thanks everyone for joining us today. We performed well in the quarter, growing our base business year over year, while increasing our share of COVID-19 molecular testing since March. As we have said before, we believe demand for COVID-19 molecular testing is not going away any time soon and we'll continue into 2023.
Speaker 4: Based on our overall performance in the quarter and our expectations for the remainder of 2022, we have raised our full-year guidance.
Speaker 4: We also made very good progress on our leadership transition.
Speaker 4: Jim will give you an update and take you through our second quarter highlights. And that mark will take you through our financial performance in the more detail before we get into your questions.
Speaker 4: But before I turn it over to Jim, I'd like to say a few words about the Saving Access to Laboratory Services Act, now called SALSA.
Speaker 4: The important new federal laboratory legislation recently introduced in Congress as well as the US Court of Appeals for the DC circuits recent ruling on our trade associations, PAMA lawsuit.
Speaker 4: We're grateful for the efforts of Senate and House members to introduce this legislation on both sides of the aisle. The Senate will introduce this legislation on both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 4: In our view, Salsa could fix PAMA permanently.
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Speaker 4: In 2014, the Intentive Congress in passing PAMA was to reform the Medicare Clinical Advice Schedule to a single national fee schedule based on private payer rates for the clinical laboratory services. The Intentive Congress in passing PAMA was to reform the Medicare for the clinical laboratory services.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the first round of data collection failed to collect the data from large, significant segments of the marketplace.
Speaker 4: The result was billions in Medicare cuts over three years, with more on their way if Salsa is not passed.
Speaker 4: Our trade association is coordinating good congressional means, along with public advocacy efforts that involve its collaboration with the provider and patient communities.
Speaker 4: Last week, the DC Circuit Court issued a decision in the PAMA lawsuit filed in 2017 by our trade association, ACLA.
Speaker 4: In short, the court sided with the ACLA and called the CMS's exclusion of possible price data quote arbitrary and capricious.
Speaker 4: Importantly, this case has been rejected for procedure reasons, and this is the first opinion based on its merits.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the court is not requiring CMS to recalculate the flawed payment amounts.
Speaker 4: While disappointing, we believe this favorable rule will give Congress additional strong grounds.
Speaker 4: To finally fix Pamela's many flaws by passing salsa
Speaker 4: Now I'd like to turn it over to Jim Davis.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Steve. Our base business performed well despite softer utilization trends, which we believe impacted us and the rest of the healthcare industry. I'm proud of the efforts our team has made to grow our share of COVID-19 molecular testing to the end of the first quarter.
Speaker 3: We also ramped our investments to further accelerate growth in the areas of advanced diagnostics and direct a consumer testing. We also ramped our investments to further accelerate growth in the areas of advanced diagnostics
Speaker 3: In the quarter, we announce the selection of our next CFO , Sam Samad. Sam joins us from Illumina where he served as Chief Financial Officer for five plus years.
Speaker 3: As many of you know, he brings the depth of healthcare experience that will help us in many ways.
Speaker 3: Prior to Illumina, Sam held several financial and operational leadership roles at Cardinal Health and Eli Lilly and Company.
Speaker 5: Sitham, welcome to Quest Diagnostics.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Jim. It's an honor to join the Quest Diagnostics team. It's an honor to join the Quest Diagnostics team.
Speaker 3: In previous rules, I had the opportunity to observe the many contributions Quest is making to healthcare. The many contributions Quest is making to healthcare.
Speaker 3: Then surviving less than two weeks ago, I've been impressed by the passion and dedication of everyone that I've met so far.
Speaker 3: I'd like to thank Mark Guinan for his partnership during this transition.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 3: Jim, I'll turn it back to you.
Speaker 5: Sam and I look forward to working very closely with you.
Speaker 5: Now turning to our performance in the second quarter.
Speaker 5: Total revenues were $2.5 billion. Earnings per share were $1.96 on a reported basis and $2.36 on an adjusted basis.
Speaker 5: Cash provided by operations was 402 million dollars.
Speaker 5: COVID-19 testing revenues were approximately 355 million in the second quarter, down approximately 31% from 2021 from the previous quarter. COVID-19 testing was approximately 31% from the previous quarter.
Speaker 5: In July , with the spread of the BA4 and BA5 variants, we continue to see the demand for COVID-19 molecular testing consistent with the volumes we reported in June .
Speaker 5: Our positivity rate has increased since March and approximately 25% of the tests we performed in the first two weeks of July were positive. In the first two weeks of July were positive.
Speaker 5: We believe that the COVID-19 trends since March contributed to the softness we observed in the broader healthcare utilization.
Speaker 5: As you've seen, we're successfully executing a strategy to increase our share of COVID-19 molecular testing. To increase our share of COVID-19 molecular testing.
Speaker 5: A key element of our strategy is to increase the number of testing access points through retail relationships.
Speaker 5: In addition to our CVS and Walmart relationships, we are now also collecting specimens at Rite Aid locations, and the number of access points will continue to grow. Approximately half of our COVID-19 volume in the quarter came from retail channels.
Speaker 5: Quest is proud to have been selected by the CDC to participate in its increasing community access testing or ICAD program for COVID-19 testing. The CDC is proud to have been selected by the CDC to participate in its increasing community access to participate in its increasing community access
Speaker 5: Through this program, qualified uninsured individuals can access COVID-19 molecular diagnostic testing for zero out-of-pocket cost.
Speaker 5: In addition, we're pleased to be the provider of COVID-19 PCR testing for qualified, insured, and uninsured customers of Rite Aid nationwide for zero out-of-pocket expense.
Speaker 5: We now have approximately 6,000 COVID-19 patient access testing sites through retail relationships, as well as our own patient service centers.
Speaker 5: Through these efforts, we estimate that we are performing approximately 8% of COVID-19 molecular testing in the US up from approximately 4% in March.
Speaker 5: Finally, the public health emergency was extended into October , which will help us maintain our current level of reimbursement.
Speaker 5: Based on these factors, we raised our COVID-19 revenue guidance for full year 2022 to between 1.15 billion and 1.30 billion.
Speaker 5: Now, turn it to our base business. In the second quarter, we continue to make progress executing our two-point strategy to accelerate growth and drive operational excellence.
Speaker 5: Here are some highlights from the court.
Speaker 5: Our M&A funnel remains strong. We are in late-stage discussions with several hospital health systems on the purchase of their laboratory outreach business.
Speaker 5: This is in addition to our normal conversations we have with C-suite leaders on performing reference testing and providing professional lab services.
Speaker 5: While this pandemic pause some of these discussions, it has also created opportunities because of the financial and labor pressures that many hospital health systems are facing.
Speaker 5: We continue to accelerate growth through health plan access.
Speaker 5: Excluding COVID-19, health plan volumes and revenues grew faster than our overall base business in the quarter.
Speaker 5: Health plans continue to see the value of working with us. Over the last two years, we have renewed 12 national and large regional health plan contracts with price increases. We expect more renewals with price increases this year.
Speaker 5: And we're proud to be selected as one of the United Healthcare's preferred lab network providers for the fourth consecutive year, providing physicians and patients with improved access, quality and value.
Speaker 5: Finally, we're pleased to share today that we have renewed our strategic relationship with Florida Blue. Florida continues to be an important, large, and growing state for us.
Speaker 5: Earlier this month, the CMS transparency and coverage final rules became effective to help consumers know the cost of a covered item or service before receiving care.
Speaker 5: Beginning July 1, 2022, group health plans and issuers of group or individual health insurance are required to post pricing information for covered items and services.
Speaker 5: We are leveraging that data to ensure patients and employers are aware of the value we offer.
Speaker 5: This trend will continue to gather momentum as more pricing transparency requirements will go into effect in the next two years. We believe that pricing transparency favors Quest Diagnostics, which powers affordable care.
Speaker 5: We do this by offering clinical innovation,
Speaker 5: Enabling better clinical outcomes through our quality, speed, and accuracy of test results, improving the patient experience with accessible and easy-to-use patient resources, and finally reducing the cost of care.
Speaker 5: We continued to ramp our investments in advanced diagnostics capabilities. In the quarter we saw growth from hematology, prenatal genetics, and pharma services.
Speaker 5: We also introduced Quest AD to Tech, a blood test to aid in the early assessment of Alzheimer's disease.
Speaker 5: We are seeing good early adoption from both primary care physicians and neurologists. We are seeing good early adoption
Speaker 5: Finally, last week, we launched a lab-developed molecular test to aid in the detection of monkeypox. The test can differentiate monkeypox from other orthopoxviruses, and we will be able to perform nearly 30,000 tests a week by the end of July .
Speaker 5: In addition, we can expand testing to other laboratories in our network to further increase capacity if needed. In addition, we can expand testing to other laboratories in our network to further increase capacity if needed.
Speaker 5: We continue to see growth in directed consumer testing thanks to our COVID-19 offerings and more importantly our base business testing. Within the base business testing category we saw strong growth from testosterone, comprehensive metabolic panels and Lyme disease. We saw strong growth from testosterone, and Lyme disease.
Speaker 5: We're excited about upcoming improved digital experience, which we expect to debut later this year. We believe this improved experience will help us acquire, convert, and retain more customers who visited Quest Direct Digital Platform. The latest improved experience will help us acquire, and convert, convert, and retain more customers who visited Quest Direct Digital Platform.
Speaker 5: We expect to have much more to say about our improved digital experience before the end of this year.
Speaker 5: The second part of our two-point strategy is to drive operational excellence.
Speaker 5: We remain focused on improving our operational quality, service, and cost, thereby driving productivity gains.
Speaker 5: We have several initiatives underway to make this happen.
Speaker 5: focused on attracting and retaining our people, optimizing our network, automating and digitizing our processes and getting paid for the work we do. Let's get straight.
Speaker 5: Here are three examples.
Speaker 5: One, we're partnering with universities to help build our pipeline of expertise in medical technology, psychology, and histology.
Speaker 5: We're also teaming up with the Learning and Development Recruiting Company to provide lobotomy certifications to pre-screened candidates in exchange for a two-year commitment to work at class.
Speaker 5: Two, our schedule a check-in initiative, which encourages patients to make appointments, has now expanded to a thousand of our patient service sites. In one area, which has implemented the program, we are seeing a 20% decrease in average wait times, as well as an improvement in patient satisfaction.
Speaker 5: We're also building the payment process into the digital customer experience, which frees up our phlebanumus to focus on specimen collection, thereby increasing their capacity and improving the patient employee experience.
Speaker 5: Three, we continue to implement digital technology to provide end-to-end specimen tracking, including the arrival patterns that enable load leveling across the network, which improves our productivity and provides greater transparency for our clients.
Speaker 5: We're not immune to the current inflationary environment and are managing through rising fuel and labor costs. Like many companies, higher than normal employee turnover in some job categories is impacting our ability to drive further productivity gains.
Speaker 5: However, these increased costs are in line with our expectations and are built into our guidance.
Speaker 5: We are expecting another year of solid and invigorates savings and productivity improvements to help offset these pressures. To help offset these pressures.
Speaker 5: Finally, I'm very proud of our recently released 2021 Corporate Responsibility Report and invite you all to download it. You can find it on our website.
Speaker 5: Among the highlights, in 2021 we launched our first formal materiality assessment to help identify the most significant ESG topics to the company and our stakeholders. Also, to enhance the level of our ESG disclosures, we began reporting in accordance with the SASB guidelines.
Speaker 5: We're very proud of the contributions Quest is making to empower better health and grateful to our 50,000 colleagues who are making that vision a reality every day. We're making that vision a reality every day.
Speaker 5: Now, Mark will provide more details on our performance and share more insights on our updated guidance for the remainder of 2022.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Jim. In the second quarter, consolidated revenues $2.45 billion, down 3.8% versus the prior year. $2.45 billion, down 3.8% versus the prior year.
Speaker 3: Based business revenues grew 2.9% to $2.1 billion, while COVID-19 testing revenues declined approximately 31% to $355 million.
Speaker 3: Revenues for diagnostic information services to climb 3.6% compared to the prior year. Revenues for diagnostic information services
Speaker 3: The decline reflected lower revenue from COVID-19 testing services versus the second quarter of 2021.
Speaker 3: Partially offset by growth, inter-based testing revenue.
Speaker 3: Total volume measured by the number of requisitions to climb 1.4% versus the prior year.
Speaker 3: Acquisitions contributed approximately 100 basis points to total volume.
Speaker 3: Total base testing volumes increased approximately 2% versus the prior year. Excluding acquisitions, total base testing volumes grew less than 1%.
Speaker 3: As we have seen in prior COVID surges, we experienced some softening of base testing volumes, beginning in April , as COVID-19 cases begin to rise again throughout this frame.
Speaker 3: COVID-19 testing volumes were stronger than expected during the second quarter.
Speaker 3: Together with our JV partnership, Sonora Quest, we resulted approximately 3.7 million molecular tests.
Speaker 3: down approximately 1.3 million tests and 2.8 million tests versus the prior year and first quarter respectively.
Speaker 3: Our July COVID-19 molecular volumes have been consistent with the volumes we reported in June .
Speaker 3: averaging roughly 40,000 tests per day, excluding Sonora Quest.
Speaker 3: Revenue per requisition declined 2.6% versus the prior year, driven primarily by lower COVID-19 molecular volume.
Speaker 3: Based business revenue per rec was up modestly.
Speaker 3: As we have highlighted in recent quarters, the pricing environment has improved, with unit price reimbursement pressure of less than 50 basis points in the corner.
Speaker 3: Reported operating income in the second quarter was 388 million or 15.8% of revenues.
Speaker 3: compared to 533 million or 20.9% of revenues last year.
Speaker 3: On an adjusted basis, operating income was $435 million or 17.7% of revenues compared to $584 million or 22.9% of revenues last year.
Speaker 3: The over-year decline in adjusted operating income is primarily related to lower-cog and 19 testing volume. The over-year decline in adjusted operating income is practically less than a regular turnover of $10-000,000 €50-000.
Speaker 3: A higher portion of COVID-19 molecular testing volume from non-traditional retail channels, which carry additional expenses and logistics costs.
Speaker 3: Investments to accelerate growth in our base business.
Speaker 5: And slightly lower average reimbursement for COVID-19 molecular tests.
Speaker 3: In the quarter, approximately half of our COVID-19 molecular volume came through our retail partners versus roughly a third last year.
Speaker 3: We expect the mix of COVID-19 molecular volumes through this channel to continue to grow in the third quarter.
Speaker 3: Report of EPS was $1.96 in the quarter, compared to $4.96 a year ago.
Speaker 3: Adjusted EPS with $2.36 compared to $3.18 last year.
Speaker 3: Year-to-date cash provided by operations was $882 million in 2022 versus $1.2 billion in the prior year period.
Speaker 3: Given the limited M&A activity, we repurchased $200 million in stock during the second quarter.
Speaker 3: Now, turn into our updated guidance.
Speaker 3: Revenues are now expected to be between $9.5 and $9.75 billion. Base business revenues are expected to be between $8.35 and $8.45 billion.
Speaker 3: COVID-19 testing revenues are expected to be between $1.15 billion and $1.3 billion.
Speaker 3: Report an EPS expected to be in a range of $8.24 to $8.64, and adjusted EPS to be in a range of $9.55, the $9.95.
Speaker 3: Cash provided by operations is expected to be at least 1.7 billion and capital expenditures are expected to be approximately 400 million. Capital expenditures are expected to be approximately 400 million.
Speaker 3: Before concluding, I'll touch on some assumptions embedded in our updated 2022 guidance, as well as some additional considerations.
Speaker 3: Our guidance assumes COVID-19 molecular volumes average approximately 15 to 25,000 tests per day for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: As we look toward 2023, we continue to assume our COVID-19 molecular testing run rate in the second half of 2022 continues into next year. In the second half of 2022, continues into next year.
Speaker 3: Last week, the public health emergency was again extended another 90 days through mid-October. We assume average reimbursement for COVID-19 molecular testing to hold relatively steady through this period. This year, the public health emergency was again extended another 90 days through this period. The public health emergency was again extended
Speaker 3: While the public health emergency could be renewed beyond October , additional extensions are not captured in her guidance.
Speaker 3: As Jim noted earlier, we have successfully grown our share of COVID-19 molecular testing through our retail partners.
Speaker 3: which accounted for approximately 50% of our COVID-19 molecular volume in the second quarter.
Speaker 3: As these retail partnerships continue to expand, we expect the next through this channel to continue to grow throughout the remainder of the year.
Speaker 3: We continue to incur incremental costs to serve this channel.
Speaker 6: As COVID-19 positivity rates remain in the double digits, our ability to pull specimens for COVID-19 and molecular testing continues to be limited. The COVID-19 COVID-19 COVID-19 COVID-19 COVID-19
Speaker 6: As a reminder, we are ranting investments to accelerate growth this year. to accelerate growth this year.
Speaker 6: We spent approximately $70 million in the first half of the year, and we expect these investments to continue to ramp in Q3 to support the launch of our new consumer site later this year.
Speaker 6: A portion of the state of IT costs are temporary, but variable marketing costs will increase following the launch of the new site.
Speaker 6: We'll also be adding additional headcount this year to support our consumer offering as well as bioinformatics capabilities within advanced diagnostics.
Speaker 6: I will now turn it back to Steve.
Speaker 4: Thanks Mark. As many of you know, this will be Mark's last earnings call as he is retiring next week.
Speaker 4: Mark, you've been a key member of our leadership team as we have transformed Quest.
Speaker 4: and accelerated its growth.
Speaker 4: I'm grateful for everything you've done for the company, especially for the last two and a half years of the pandemic. It is especially for the last two and a half years of the pandemic. It is especially for the last two and a half years of the pandemic.
Speaker 4: I would miss your partnership and consult as we navigated many challenges over nearly a decade.
Speaker 4: I wish you and your family health and happiness as you approach the next chapter in your life.
Speaker 4: Tells and happiness as you approach the next chapter in your life. Thanks.
Speaker 6: Thanks Steve. Quest is a special place and it has been an honor to serve as CFO for the last nine years. Thanks to the analysts and investors on this call. I have enjoyed working with all of you. My family and I are excited for what lies ahead. Thanks Mark. And to summarize, as Jim shared, we have another good quarter driven by our efforts to increase share of COVID-19 testing, while we believe our base business performed in line with the software utilization trends...
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Speaker 2: Our first question comes from Brian Tankulis with Jefferies.
Speaker 2: Your line is open.
Speaker 7: Hey, good morning guys and Mark, congrats on the upcoming retirement and thanks for all the help over the years. So I guess just my question on the base business, I mean you called out some of the softness, right? I mean, do you guys think that it's more COVID driven with the current mini surge that we're seeing or just any color you can share with us on that? And maybe I guess Steve, taking it a little bit further, how are you thinking about the business today as we face a recession down the road in terms of the defensiveness of the volumes and the business?
Speaker 4: what's happening with hospitals, even though that's a secondary slowdown, if at all. And the second party question is longer term with worries about a potential slowdown in our economy and an approaching recession. What's our view on that? And we're taking a hard look at what happened over the last 10 to 15 years of our business. And
Speaker 4: You know, things did change quite a bit over the last decade, as you know. The first or the last recession, the big, great recession in 2008.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have in parallel with that the Affordable Care Act.
Speaker 4: You know, we also had changes with healthcare policy and we had PAMO effects.
Speaker 4: And so, yes, we...
Speaker 4: do believe there may be some impact in our business related to a slowdown in the economy and the recession. We do believe that we're so essential to the delivery of health care and the need for health care going forward that we believe that utilization will continue to be reasonable throughout any up and down in a economic cycle.
Speaker 4: So, but we're kicking the look at it and we're seeing if there's any differences this time around as you know maybe we're saying this is an unusual set of circumstances given what's happened with healthcare and what's happened the economy over the last two to three years. So Jim, anything you'd like to add to what we see with our base business?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what I would add is look we're in close touch with the payers and you know the payers have indicated to us and you saw UnitedHealthcare's announcement earlier this week that they saw softer utilization of healthcare services as well. In addition to that you know we track a group of Quest accounts that we know are a hundred percent loyal to us. We've bought our same store sales analysis and we noticed in the court that it was basically flat you know those accounts that are a hundred percent loyal.
Speaker 5: The other thing we look at is just the mix of our business and we know just our general health and wellness panels grew at a lower rate than some of our infectious disease, non-COVID infectious disease, and chronic care types of testing that we do. So we based on all that information. We come to the conclusion that the base was certainly softer this quarter.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Thank you for your question. Our next question is from AJ Rice with Credit Swings. Your line is open. Yeah, I have more. I want to offer my congratulations to Mark and Best Wishes and welcome aboard Sam. We look forward to working with you. We look forward to working with you.
Speaker 6: Maybe I'll just pivot over to talk about margins. Obviously within the base business, you've called out some inflationary pressures. I seem like they've been manageable. But you also talked about the invigorated savings and they're largely offsetting it. I wonder if you could just sort of comment on how you're viewing base business margins. And then I'm assuming also on the COVID-related testing.
Speaker 6: that as long as the PHE is in place, that margin is stable, but has there been any reason to think that that has changed? We get the aggregate margin, but I'm wondering about the underlying trends there, if you could just comment on it, how much that factored into your back half of guidance outlook as well, any changes?
Speaker 6: Thanks, AJ, for the questions. Let me start with COVID. So as I mentioned in my prepare remarks, when you look at our COVID business, the good news was a lot more volume, a lot more revenue, a lot more dollars of operating margin. However, with that also goes less pooling, a larger mix, a shift towards the retail outlets, which have higher expenses. And then we have some slight erosion versus last year on average reimbursement of a couple of dollars. Not anything super significant.
Speaker 6: So the margin percentage was less, but still its contribution to the bottom line from COVID was much higher. As we look into the back half at this point, we don't know where the positive rates are gonna go, but we've not assumed a material change in the amount of pooling. We would expect to continue with the current mix or potentially grow that as a proportion of our total COVID volumes. So within the ranges, that's kind of how we're seeing the balance of the year, play out on COVID. So, you know, if we have the positive rates,
Speaker 6: business has absolutely been impacted by the surge in COVID. We just aren't sure how long it'll last. On the base business, we've shared that as we built our plan and the ranges for 2022, we built in a higher SWB salary with benefits assumption that was in our guidance. And certainly that's something we control. And that's really within expectations. We have a couple billion dollars that we have long term contracts.
Speaker 6: And so, you know, really not exposed to inflation and a short window for that. But then we have some other costs where, you know, we don't have long-term contracts. And there are things, you know, everybody's familiar with and you've heard from other companies as well, things like fuel, things like housekeeping, security, temporary labor. And so those areas have been a little more inflationary than we would have anticipated going into the year. The good news is those are in our results year-to-date. They're in our guidance. We're not expecting that to go away immediately. So, thank you.
Speaker 6: We certainly hope it's not long-term inflation unlike where if you have wage inflation you generally expect it will continue. If you add contractual inflation with your key suppliers around reagents and other things, you know, that might be longer term as well or certainly a couple years. We don't know how long this spike is going to last, but I can tell you it's probably like five to eight cents a quarter in the first half and we're not expecting that to change. We hope it might, but in the guidance that we provided. So hopefully that's helpful to you again.
Speaker 4: And AJ, just so it's clear, you all know that the emergency act has been extended. And so we're assuming in our guidance that will be extended through October , but we're not assuming in our guidance that it extends past October until we have certainty around that. Okay, so that is the assumption. And what we've just provided for guidance for the remainder of the year. I think since you asked AJ.
Speaker 5: automated check-in procedure. So we've long had appointment scheduling. What we've added recently is when a patient walks into the PSC without an appointment, you actually go to the check-in and if the weight room is full, you schedule an appointment at that point. And what we've seen is it really does help productivity in the PSC as well as if the patient leaves, they may not come back to Quest. If they make an appointment to come back in two hours or the next day, we feel like the patient retention is better.
Speaker 5: But automation, the use of artificial intelligence in terms of readouts of manual curves and laboratories, all of that work continues. And then I tell you the other thing that will help continue to drive productivity is our work around retention of our employees. So our productivity, like all companies, we're seeing a much higher increase in turnover. We feel like it is stabilized, albeit at a higher point. So as we now drive retention higher and turnover lower, that will certainly help our productivity efforts in the back half of the year.
Speaker 6: I just want to add one thing about peace here in the back half. Steve talked about the potential for the PHE to not be extended, which at this point we're not assuming it does extend. But I want to remind people that the price drop is not a full margin drop. Because when we get to, you know, beyond the PHE first off, you know, there's not absolute certainty. But most people would expect the positivity rate will be significantly lower. We can pull a lot more so we can get some margin offset there, dollar-wise.
Speaker 6: And then the second one is that the retail relationships that we have will change in the structure. We know how that's gonna work and basically the significant costs for incurring right now to get that volume for the retail outlets will go away because it's only permitted under the PHE, it's complicated, but it will go away. So while the value per requisition will drop to whatever price we end up with and people have talked about the CMS rate that was originally published and certainly that's potential over time, that's not all a margin hit because there's some other costs that go away. So.
Speaker 3: you're going to be a great fit of quest and Mark of course really enjoyed working together, but before you go I do have more margin questions for you here.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go out otherwise. Yeah, thanks. Of course. So specifically, can you just talk about what was the COVID testing margin in the quarter, or how did it compare to the overall margin? And I guess what I'm trying to get into is just like, you know, how much of the sequential step down in earnings might have been related to the margin impacts you've talked about. So, you can just talk about it. Thanks. You've talked about it. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.
Speaker 6: Yes, so you know Jack as you know we don't provide specific margins on sub-segments of our business but what I can give you directionally is I referred to half of our volume coming from you know retail channels or non-traditional channels and we talked about dollar wise with the incremental cost per counter is there. A year ago in the second quarter it was about a third of our volume so you can see that's pretty significant. In the second quarter last year we did quite a bit of pooling and that's varied in the interim quarters between then and now.
Speaker 6: but that should help you understand. But I think the key thing is that the dollars we earned off COVID was much better than our plans. And we expected to continue, and that's why we're rising guidance. So while the percentage was worse, the dollar bottom line was better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack, and as you know, in Q1.
Speaker 4: We did about 600 million worth of COVID.
Speaker 4: And in the second quarter that we're talking about right now, it was roughly 350. So that was a material change in COVID. And as Mark has gone through, there's a lot more dynamics in what the margin is in COVID. But essentially that sequential compare in our margin drop is primarily related to the drop in COVID testing.
Got it. If I can squeeze in one more on the core business, what are your expectations for merit increases and SW and B this year? Have that changed long? Have that changed long?
Jimmy, I want to take that. No, it hasn't changed at all, Jack. We said 3 to 4% for the year. We're still within that guidance. We've already provided an merit increase for the year. We do that annually in the April timeframe. So it's already in the Q2 numbers for sure. So it's already in the Q2 numbers for sure.
So, yeah, as Jim referenced, the vast majority of our increase has already taken place. Certainly like all other companies, we have some off-cycle adjustment space and promotions and other things. But, you know, most of the quote, inflation headwinds in SWB word card, the second court court. So, if you look sequentially, that's one of the drivers of margin reduction, first quarter, second quarter, that's been a historical event as well. That's not new, but, you know, we don't anticipate going forward to see significant inflation beyond kind of the run rate.
and then we think fairly and we've increased that for the hourly wages. And the second is couriers. And to give you an idea, because it is the area that we have the most pressure, roughly it's about 10 to 11% of our workforce.
salary, okay, so and at the same time it represents a larger percentage of our workforce count of the 50,000 people. So that's where we have the most pressure. So even if that number went up, you know, considerably, you get an idea of the impact that would have on our margins. So that's where we see the most pressure.
Okay, so, so, and at the same time it represents a larger percentage of a workforce count of the 50,000 people. So, that's where we have the most pressure. So, even if that number went up, you know, considerably, you get an idea of the impact that would have on our margins. But that's where we see the most pressure, okay? So, that's where we see the most pressure.
Thank you for your question. Our next question from Patrick Donnelly with City. Your line is open.
Great. Thanks for taking the questions, guys. Sam, looking forward to continuing to work with you and not to put you on the spot on your first call here, but I'm sure on the way in, as you know, there's a lot of questions as you've seen on this call already in terms of the margin and the margin profile going into kind of next year as we work our way through kind of the high margin COVID coming out, some of the expenses around DTC and retail, wage inflation, I guess when you came in and Mark, feel free to chime in obviously, but
Sam, how did you get comfortable with that? It would just be helpful maybe to hear your perspective on that as I'm sure it was a key consideration, something you dug into on your way in. And I know investors are hyper focused on that piece as well. So if you're willing, we'd love to hear your general thoughts and kind of......and kind of......and kind of......and kind of......and kind of......and kind of...
how we work our way through the margin side as we kind of work our way into next year.
Yeah, Patrick, thanks for the welcome and I look forward to working with you and the rest of the folks on the call as well. Listen, it's really early days. I've been here in, I'm in my second week here. So you know, all I can tell you is coming in, you know, obviously we're in a challenging environment right now, but Quest has an incredible reputation with incredible people that really provide a significant value to healthcare. So I've been so far really impressed with the passion that I've seen people here, the knowledge.
and the contributions that I think we can make in healthcare. So, I'm going to punt a little bit on your question because it's really early days and really ask Mark to more comment on it. But I'm very excited about how we can work through these challenges. But it's really early days, Patrick. I'm in my second week here.
I'll let maybe Mark talk about it more.
Yeah, so Patrick, I'd appreciate the question. We know where people's heads are at right now around the business and You know, that's what ours are as well. So I can assure we're spending a lot of time on that We've spent a lot of time on that, you know There's a number of things that we you know generally control and then there's some things that you know They're a little bit less in our control So, you know we you know do our best to forecast those things we put together ranges and then we're I think and believe we're Very transparent with you about how those things play out. So you get a sense of you know
those updates, you know, I think everybody appreciates what a great job Sean does and know they can call him anytime, any place and get him and he'll be as transparent as possible. So really I think what it comes down to is we, I believe, we're focused on the right things and also I believe we do our best job of being as transparent as possible around all those key drivers. That's helpful, I appreciate it guys. And Steve, maybe a quick one, you know, you've continued to talk about more constructive conversations with the...
some of the covering lives and payers. Can you just talk about, I guess, the kind of outlook on pricing? I mean, it seems as confident as you guys have sounded on that front in years. So maybe just talk about how you're feeling on the pricing side, given some of those payer conversations.
Thanks for the question. We are very pleased with the progress we have made with all payers and where we are today versus when I started which is over 10 years ago. We have a network now that is the strongest network that we have ever had. I would say our relationship with all the significant payers national and regional is very strong. They are increasingly realizing that.
It's good for their membership and good for their competitiveness in the market to have us in network. And we bring a lot of value. And so we're entirely focused on what we call power and affordable care, which is consistent with what Jim has driven in the company around making sure that we have great quality, great service, and a great experience. And you heard earlier from Jim as we continue to push on.
just working smarter and by working smarter, we're getting a more productivity, but we're also gonna have a better product. And payers understand that. And so as Jim mentioned, we have gotten some increases from the payers over the last, several negotiation rounds. We continue to believe that is something we're gonna continue to push for because we do bring a lot of value to the marketplace and we're very competitive in the marketplace. And so if you look at that.
Price effect that we saw in the quarter And what we have typically said in the past historically remember historically we said you should plan it about a hundred basis points with the price effect Well in this quarter in the last quarter we've actually saw less than that and That's the best position we've been in and I will share within that envelope The commercial payer portion of it is significantly less than where we've been historically But we still see pressure with price
with our hospital business, with our client bill business, and that's in that envelope as well. But on the commercial payer side, we're in a very different place than we were before. And I'll share with you, part of Jim and I's, my transition is Jim and I are going into the nationals and the regional payers and we're talking about what we've done in the past, and more importantly what we're doing in the future. We just had a meeting last week with one of the national payers, and they see us as a much more significant player.
in the marketplace than what people think about us as, which is a laboratory, we're much more the lab. We actually help them improve the value of healthcare going forward. So much better place than where we were in a good place right now. And so what I will add is that we really moved the needle on commercial. Over the last couple years we've talked about more pricing pressure in the client bill, which is, as Steve referenced, the hospital, and then some cases where we contract directly with physicians. But...
Instead of being a headwind on price, I will tell you that starting next year and going forward, I would expect the commodity to be at least neutral, not a tailwind. So we've moved it from a major headwind to be at least neutral and more likely positive. So I wanted to dimensionalize a little more why you're hearing the positive comments for us. And it's in really recognition of what Steve said, which is our strategic value to them, how to commoditize provider of the laboratory result. There's so much more to...
how we're helping them and then these value-based contracts that we've referenced where based on performance we can earn a better payment for ourselves and so because of that we've really really you know move the environment and the relationships with the commercial pairs.
Great. Thank you, guys.
Thank you so much for your question. Our next question is from Peter Chickering with Deutsche Lake. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Good morning, guys. If you take my questions, Mark is a pleasure with you over these years. And Sam, I look forward to working with you in the future. A quick two part on the inflation side. So the first one is the follow-up on that pricing question that you just gave. Can you quantify what the better commercial rates are for 2023? Because you probably already logged this in this point, versus 2022. And then follow-up on A, D, D's question. Just to make sure I understand that, you were seeing an additional $5.8 cents of the plenary pressures.
Was that more or less than expected than you guys gave guidance on the fourth quarter call? And then on previous calls, you talked about sort of a 2023 EPS of a 50. So we add those in place for any pressures against that 850 or can you offset those with increased efficiency as well as new recent COVID, are we still agreements you've done?
Well, thanks for all the questions, Peter. I'll start with 2023. You know, we've not locked down our plan. And even if we did, we generally don't give specific guidance until our fourth quarter rings call. And I'll leave it to the management team. I'll be leaving exactly when they decide to do that. But you know, we're not going to common any specifics around 2023. In terms of the amount of the increases again, I'm not going to de-ventualize it. We don't ever plan lock down.
But we have enough contracts that are already set for next year and enough progress on some that are either, as we referenced, like Florida Blue or some others that are getting close to being locked down for renewal that I have confidence to say what I said, which is that it's not going to be a headwind next year for us on a price perspective. So just to add to that, so what you're hearing from us is yes, we hear your comments about inflation and yes, we have a flexure pressure and yes, we're managing that.
But what you're also hearing from us is we're in a better price position than we've been in. You need to think about that too and thinking about the prospect of what we're going to do in 23. We're not going to provide guidance, but we still feel confident with what we shared in investor day in 2021 around the prospects of what we're going to do going forward. And yeah, so I was going to continue that. What you're hearing from us is what's happening now, Peter.
and the five to eight cents is more inflation than we would have anticipated. However, other things have changed as well. Most notably, we did a lot more COVID, but we delivered a lot more earnings. So just like we don't expect the high level of COVID and we could be wrong to expect and continue into 2023. Also, we'd be really disappointed if the inflation we're seeing in the non-contracted areas were to carry to 2023. But even if it does, we've got multiple pieces that are moving, including a better pricing environment than the commercial books. There's no way shape or form.
I really enjoyed working with you. So thank you for all the color always and your patience. Thank you for all the color always and your patience.
In terms of the question, I just want to go back to the utilization environment. I mean, you gave some color there, but what we're hearing from the managed care companies is that softness that they're seeing is in ER visits and inpatient admissions. We shouldn't really have an impact on lab testing, right? It's more outside the four walls of the hospitals. So can you maybe give us some color on where are you seeing softness and initialization?
two things in addition to what Jim talked about earlier which is our state same store sales as we call it. So one is we actually get data from the pairs okay it's in total so we know you know how many patient encounters they had for laboratory work. We know what our volume was and we can see that you know the good news is we continue to gain share in those commercial books however we continue to see their total volume has been you know down certainly in the second quarter so it's payer data that's being provided by them to us.
That is the basis for our confidence to say that utilization has dipped in our space. The other one is I point to the Zythan data, you know, which is, you know, based on billings of other independent labs. And if you look at that, that certainly suggests that utilization is down. So while you may be hearing it's, you know, emergency room and inpatient, the data that we have and the best data we have also suggests that the market in which we operate is also depressed in the second quarter. And the second part is remember COVID.
And we're two years into it. And every time COVID infections go up.
or a base business comes down some. And if you think about a physician and what they need to do to run their offices, and as you know, a large portion of our businesses through physicians in their offices, you know, if there's call outs of their staff or if their patients are listening to their appointments because they are now infected, it affects volume. So there's no question, there's a correlation. And the good news for us is when that happens our COVID business goes up, right? So Jim, what should we do? Ricky, the last thing I'd say is, you know, we're not immune.
called same-store sales.
Again, our general health and wellness panels, you know, from a mixed standpoint, were certainly lower than some of our chronic disease panels in the quarter. And then the last thing, geographic mix, you know, we've talked and it hasn't changed dramatically that our book of business in New York City is down still low to mid double digits. On the other hand, we see incredibly strong growth in the southern part of the country.
in the southeast portion as well as the southwest and parts of the west. So if there's been a population migration out of New York City, you know, into the southeast, then we're certainly seeing some of that in our business.
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Thank you. Next question, some Derek Dardurin with Bank of America. Your line is open. Thank you, Derek.
Thank you. Next question, some Derek Dardurin with Bank of America. Your line is open. Yeah, Derek. Hey Derek.
Hi, good morning. This is John on for Derek and thanks for all the colors and thanks for
laying out the initiatives because he knew we were going to ask.
But in addition to that and in addition to the price increases you're expecting
and the plan to climb down the employee turnover. How should we think about the incremental spend in 2023? Are you thinking about ramping these down to offset the inflationary pressure?
And on Pam, could you just remind us what your expectations are in 23, especially if nothing else happens on the legislative front? Especially if nothing else happens on the legislative front?
Yeah, so in terms of 2023, as Mark said, there's a lot of moving parts at this point. We're committed to investments in advanced diagnostics, we're committed to investments and our Consumer Direct Consumer Initiated Testing Business.
Obviously, we can modulate those things if we see inflation getting worse. But at this point, we can't give you any further guidance than what we've given you around those. We're committed to advanced diagnostics, committed to our clinical and consumer initiated testing business. So just to add to that, because we've commented on this before, it's important you think about this as you think about 23.
We started to make investments in 2020 to accelerate growth. Beyond what we had already invested into accelerate growth. So think about 20 and 21 and now we're at the 22. And we obviously would not make investments unless we thought there would be a return.
And so therefore, you have heard from us, you're seeing growth rates in advanced diagnostics that have come up. You've heard about us feeling good about our consumer-initiated testing growing faster than we have seen.
growing in the past, and as you think about 23, you should think about the improvements you're gonna see in those two businesses in relationship with what we invested and so therefore you should not think about this as headwinds but you should really think about it as tailwinds because we will get a return on those investments we made over the last several years. Jim? Yeah, you asked about PAM and we've said that it's in our.
That is still our intention. So as you can imagine over the next several years, including 2023, we're expecting significant revenue growth. And in order to drive that revenue growth, we need to spend more. However, the good news is that a lot of 2020 and 2021 was pre-revenue, pre-contribution margin. And as we go ahead, we expect the net impact to actually be less and to be less of a headwind. So really we're going to be investing less on the bottom line, but spending more money to drive that revenue. So we're going to be investing more. We're going to be investing more.
and Mollman on for Matt LaRue. It's going off of the previous question for your investments into the base business. I know previously you've given a number around 160 million for this year. Do you anticipate it still being about that? It has inflation driven that cost higher. Any color you have there. And then my other question, just speaking to your investments in advanced diagnostics. You mentioned that you were ahead of schedule for your anticipated 8% growth. Is that still the case? Sure. So let me take part of it and I'm sure they're steward.
variable cost and highly tied to revenue growth and we'll monitor as Jim says and you know I'm sure Sam and Jim will be all over this to make sure we're making the progress and to make sure we don't get the spending ahead of ourselves. But if we do what we expect to do and we need to do to get to half a billion by 2025 the spending will continue to go up. The only other dimension I want to mention here is because when we talk about investments in the base business you know there's a little nuance here. Advanced diagnostics absolutely is the base business but really this consumer business is new. So while a lot of the work we do is.
we'll do that again, but we keep on indicating that we believe we are making progress of getting to a higher level of growth as we indicated in our investor day in 21. And we feel good about the progress and we gave you a number in the beginning of the year. And the same is true about our consumer initiative testing. We periodically gave you an update to show that we're making progress. So we're feeling good about the investments made. The returns we'll get. And again, you should see more returns in our 23.
guidance or the expectations around that because we believe that they still remain to be good opportunities. And just to clarify, the target that we outlined at the investor day for the Director Consumer Business was 250 million by 2025. And my apologies for it. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Great, thank you so much. Thank you for your question. Our last question will come from Rachel Vasindal with JP Morgan. Your line is open.
Hi, Ty, thanks for taking the questions. So can you spend a minute talking about the monkey pox market? You slightly are prepared to merge. The quest was one of the five labs that was selected by the CDC to expand testing capacity. And you guys are going to have roughly 30,000 testing capacity for a week. So can you just walk us through the market opportunity there and then this contemplated me guidance at all?
Jim or Jill went under that. Yeah. So at this point, it's hard to anticipate what the market opportunity has been. What the market opportunity has been.
or will be. I can tell you our testing volumes at this point are modest. If we've done 500, 600 tests that would be on the high side, however, it is growing. And we do see growth. We've only had the test up and running for two weeks. And over that two week period, it's grown day by day. And over that two week period, it's grown day by day.
Right now, we're not yet approved for New York State. We expect that to happen within the next week or two. I'm sure you're reading that that is where the major outbreak is in New York City. So we would expect to participate in that market. But most of our volume at this point is coming actually off of the West Coast. And so we'll keep you updated on what we're seeing.
Right now we're not yet approved for New York State. We expect that to happen within the next week or two. I'm sure you're reading that that is where the major outbreak is in New York City. So we would expect to participate in that market. But most of our volume at this point is coming actually off of the West Coast. And so we'll keep you updated on what we're seeing.
Great, and then in light of a current environment, can you just walk us through some initial color on how you're considering use of cash between share of purchases dividend and then M&A? Thanks.
Sure, so we're gonna continue with what we've done. And what that is is that between the dividend and we've already gotten there this year with the share of purchases to deliver a majority of our free cash flow to our shareholders. And with a $1.7 billion guidance and 400 of capital, it says at least 650 million between the dividend share of purchases, we've recovered that. And also shared, we'd rather do M&A.
and sherry purchases because we have some very rigorous financial parameters around the deals that we do. And, you know, so it's really gonna be situational quarter by quarter, it may be different. Jim reference that we have a deep pipeline and actually also commented that we have some negotiations that are well advanced. So, you know, I think we'd all be very disappointed if we didn't execute some deals before the end of the year. Don't know the exact timing of those, but certainly as I said, I'd rather, you know, spend more on M&A, and I'll Steve Wood and you'll hear from...
Sam and Jim as they take over the reins their view, but I wouldn't expect it to materially change. So really no change to what we've done in the past. And at this point no specific plans for cash deployment because it's really dependent on that progression of the M&A.
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