Q3 2022 Blue Bird Corp Earnings Call
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Thank you and welcome to Bluebird's fiscal 2022 third quarter earnings conference call. The audio for our call is webcast live on blue-bird.com under the investor relations tab. You can access the supporting slides on our website by clicking on the presentations box on the IR landing page.
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This afternoon you will hear from Bluebird's President and CEO Matthew Stevenson and CFO Rosvond Radulescu. Then we will take some questions.
So let's get started. Matt?
Thank you, Mark. And good afternoon, everyone.
As you can see on the left-hand side of the slide, our aggressive plan to improve our business operations is taking hold. And as we predicted on the previous earnings calls, Q3 was a defining quarter for us.
We posted an adjusted EBITDA of $9 million for the quarter on revenue of $206 million with 1,726 units.
Our volumes are still constrained by the ability of some key suppliers to provide components.
Pre-cash flow was negative 40 million as we increased inbound material early at the beginning of the calendar year in anticipation of increasing production volumes.
However, those increased volumes did not materialize due to the supply disruptions caused by the war in Ukraine and continued COVID lockdowns in China.
We posted good results on lower than planned volumes by aggressively controlling costs, recovering economics and pricing, and adjusting our operations to improve efficiencies in a challenging environment.
In the quarter and since our last earnings call, our business has made substantial progress, and we have launched several critical programs and initiatives.
Our backlog at the end of Q3 stood at a stout 6,300 units worth nearly $700 million.
That backlog is 63% alternative power, which is critical for Bluebird because customers using our exclusive Ford, Roush, gasoline and propane solutions are more loyal given the performance of these excellent powertrains.
Our EV backlog also ticked up to nearly 400 units. The Cummins-Bluebird partnership on the EVs continues to be the preferred solution for electric school buses in the market.
We also announced expanding our collaboration with Lightning eMotors by announcing an EV power solution for model year 2023 and newer Ford powered Type C buses.
This is important because school buses have a long life cycle and many customers are coming to us and saying we love your Ford Rosh power trains but we want an option to convert them to EV at some point down the road.
We expect this REpower solution to be available in calendar year 2023. We also launched Bluebird Energy Services.
This was again driven by customer requests.
They want a turnkey approach to electric school buses.
In many instances, customers do not have the time or the desire to coordinate all the steps to successfully deploy electric buses.
including working with the utility companies and designing and deploying charging infrastructure.
With Bluebird Energy Services, we take the guesswork out of deployment and work hand-in-hand with school districts and fleet customers to provide turnkey solutions that make deployment of EV buses quicker and easier.
During the quarter, we had the opportunity to attend the launch event for the Clean Bus School Bus program hosted by Vice President Kamala Harris.
This is an exciting time for our industry and we have been working with a large number of customers to submit applications on their behalf to secure a portion of the first $500 million of this $5 billion of funding.
The application is closed in the middle of August with winters to be announced in October .
We will touch on this more later in the call.
Slide 7 reflects the key takeaways you will hear throughout our remarks.
Unlike many industries experiencing a slowdown, demand for school buses couldn't be better.
The entire industry has pent up replacement needs and the backlog for the industry stands at 10 months.
And Bluebird is no exception.
We have also taken aggressive actions to reduce our operating costs through 2022 calendar year, which allows us additional time for our improvements in operations and supply chain to materialize and support increased build rates.
Additionally, we have made significant progress in overcoming inflationary pressure by partially recovering pricing on the backlog, pricing new orders at 25% above last year, and implementing new policies to ensure we stay aligned with any cost increases in the future.
Also, we are not just waiting for the supply chain to improve. We have implemented numerous internal measures to control our own destiny.
resourcing suppliers, taking steps out of our material flow to better support production, and continuing our focus on reducing conversion costs and improving the quality of the finished product.
As we already discussed, we continue our leadership in EV and are preparing for the onslaught of electric bus demand driven by the release of infrastructure spending.
With all this good news, we remain cautiously optimistic about the macro supply chain environment.
However, we still have some concerns relative to the semiconductor availability that has impacted all auto manufacturers.
For more details on the key takeaways, return to slide 8.
The strength of the market demand is evident in the year-to-date order intake for the industry, which is 30% higher than the previous year and 19% higher than the pre-COVID levels of 2019.
If you order a bus today from any manufacturer, your wait will be about 10 months.
Bluebird has its relative historical market share of that backlog with 6,300 units worth of $700 million and 63% of that being an alternative to diesel.
The EV demand is robust and demand for the first round of EV funding from the Clean School Bus program is strong.
We are constantly evaluating the supply base and preparing for increased production volume when we see stabilization.
As we sit here today, we have seen some significant improvement in the last 30 days based on changes we have made to our operation with our suppliers.
We took aggressive cost mitigation actions in the quarter to right-side the organization to the supply-constrained production volume.
including reductions in force and short-term executive pay cuts.
Also, we delayed projects not critical to our core growth initiatives, but kept moving forward with key programs to scale EV production capacity and launch our electric commercial chassis.
Through all our cost-saving measures, we reduce our operating costs by $7 million for the second half of the calendar year.
We also work diligently on recovering economics through pricing.
We partner with our dealers to partially recover pricing on all the backlog units, which were not at current market pricing levels based on when they were ordered.
Bluebird has the best dealers in the school bus business and I greatly appreciate the partnership and their collaboration with us on this unprecedented initiative.
Pricing on new orders has also been increased by 25% since July of 2021 and 20% since October of 2021.
Through these efforts we've been able to double the standard gross margins of the backlog since October of 2021.
We have also implemented pricing recovery mechanisms such as PPI indexes on longer-term deals.
Now we're beginning to see softening in the global commodity market. If that holds, it should begin to impact our cost base in the first quarter of fiscal year 2023.
Our business fundamentals are strong, with robust demand, an optimized cost structure, and margins dramatically increased since the beginning of our fiscal year.
As I mentioned, we are not sitting idly by waiting for supply chain to normalize. And on slide 9, you can see we are continually improving our operations.
We have made significant enhancements of the ability of parts for production through focused leadership, new processes, and increased resources for operation.
We also re-engineered most of our material flow from our suppliers to go directly to our production facility to reduce time and handling costs.
As we've discussed in previous earnings calls, we have also resourced components from problematic suppliers in dual or even triple stores where suppliers have production constraints.
We have even helped our suppliers source critical components for our own production needs.
Missing parts remain elevated, roughly two dozen per bus throughout the quarter.
However, we are starting to trend favorably and in the last month we trended closer to a dozen per bus.
And in the last few weeks, over 50% of our buses had all the parts to start a production.
Now that is something we haven't seen at Bluebird since the spring of 2021.
In a challenging supply chain environment, we are also making progress on reducing defects per unit, seeing a 50% reduction since quarter one.
We're also elevating expectations of first pass yield in areas of our operations such as our paint shop and have shown dramatic improvements in our results with focus and root cause analysis.
As we have discussed over many quarters, reducing production hours per bus by 30% by 2025 is a clear focus for us.
We have already reduced our standard by 20 hours.
This reduction has not necessarily flowed through to the financials yet, given the number of offline hours still required to complete a bus due to missing parts in production.
As the supply chain improves, we continue to adjust our production schedules to optimize work-life balance for teammates, throughput, and cost.
There is a tremendous amount of activity occurring on our path to developing a fully electric future.
Some of the highlights are on the right-hand side of the slide.
As I mentioned, we announced a future ED re-power solution in collaboration with Lightning eMotors to help our customers create a bridge to a fully electric future.
Customers want to purchase our cleaner emissions propane and gasoline power training products now, but in some states, they may need to operate a fully electric fleet later in the lifecycle of the buses they purchase today.
We're helping our customers bridge that gap.
Also, we are becoming partners in larger EV school bus deployments. Our customers are demanding turnkey infrastructure solutions and we are here to serve them.
That is why we created Bluebird Energy Services, which will help design the proper charging infrastructure for the needs of today and the future.
Work with utilities to ensure the grid can supply the customer's needs, whether for power or V2G capability.
We also continue to make progress on our Class 5-6 electric commercial chassis, an interest of potential end users and body companies continues to build.
With such a strong backlog in electric school buses and being on the verge of substantial order increases due to the infrastructure funding bill, we need to increase our EV capacity beyond the current four units per day.
Therefore, we are progressing on the renovation of an existing 40,000 square foot facility dedicated for final EV powertrain installation and commissioning.
We expect this facility to be online by the end of calendar year 22.
With this new facility, we will increase volume to 20 units per day by the end of the calendar year 2023.
Overall, we've made a lot of progress on our recovery plan this quarter, and it's starting to come through in our financial results. Welcome to our financial results. Welcome to our financial results.
At the same time, we're approving our operations and continuing our leadership in alternative fuels and EVs.
I would now like to hand it off to Roswaan to walk through our financials in more detail.
Thanks, Matt, and good afternoon. It's my pleasure to share with you the financial highlights from Bluebird's fiscal 2022 third quarter results.
The quarter end is based on a close date of July 2nd, 2022, whereas the prior year was based on a July 3rd, 2021 close date.
We will file the thank you today, August 10, after the market closes.
Our 10Q includes additional material and disclosures regarding our business and financial performance.
We encourage you to read the 10Q and the important disclosures that it contains.
The appendix attached to today's presentation includes reconciliation of differences between GAP and non-GAAP measures mentioned on this call, as well as important disclaimers.
Slide 11 is a summary of the third quarter results for fiscal 2022 and fiscal 2021.
It was another operationally tough quarter for Bluebird, with re-emerging supply chain disruptions and commodity cost pressures that have impacted many manufacturing industries.
With these challenges, Bluebird unit sales volume of 1,726 units was 298 units lower than prior year due to the constrained supply base which was impacted by the Ukraine war and the COVID lockdowns in China.
We experience supply issues for multiple components across a number of suppliers.
Through July , however, we started to see improvement in the number of missing parts per bus, as Matt already mentioned.
Bluebird's backlog of 6,300 units at quarter end is incredibly strong and almost 60% higher than a year ago.
As of today, our production capacity, which will remain constrained for the balance of the calendar year, is full through March, and we are filling fiscal 2023 Q3 production slots.
Our ability to complete and deliver all of these units on time will depend on supply stability of key components.
Consolidated net revenue of $206 million was $9 million higher than prior year.
Of that, B
Our average bus revenue per unit increased from 90,000 to 108,000, which was largely the result of pricing actions taken over the past 10 months, as well as a higher mix of electric buses, 3.5% versus 1.5%.
Supply constraint EV cells were at a level of 60 units or 29 more than last year.
Part revenue for the quarter was $19 million, representing an improvement of $5 million compared to the prior year.
Over the past few quarters, we have seen improvement in past sales, which is an indicator that the normal work for school districts is getting back to pre-COVID levels.
Although there has been some disruption also in our past business due to supplier shortages.
Growth margin for the quarter was 10.5% for 280 basis points lower than the same period last year and in line with our messaging on the Q2 call.
We expected to see margin compression versus prior year, but significant sequential improvement from Q2 as our pricing started to take hold.
Over two-thirds of the units sold in the quarter were relatively low-margin backward units that were priced throughout last year. I will discuss this in detail later in the presentation.
In Q3, fiscal 22 adjusted net income was negative 3 million or 8 million lower than last year. Adjusted EBITDA of approximately 9 million was down compared with the prior year by 4 million.
Adjusted diluted earnings per share of negative 9 cents was down 28 cents from the prior year.
Slide 12 shows the work from fiscal 21 Q3 adjusted EBITDA to the fiscal 22 Q3 results.
Starting on the left at 13 million, lower bus volume of 298 units was offset by higher parts revenues for a neutral impact.
Pricing net of economics was slightly negative in the quarter, driven by higher steel and commodity costs and margin compression as we work steel through the old backlog.
This is very encouraging to see as we are finally seeing that pricing caught up to economics, i.e. material cost increases.
Operating efficiencies however deteriorated by $4 million from last year, driven by higher freight costs, approximately $500 more per bus, and supply disruptions and power shortages generating rework in the plant.
SG&A and engineering expenses, excluding restructuring expenses, were over $2 million lower than last year due to the significant cost control measures that were put in place.
Additionally, in the other category, our JV results from microbud were close to 2 million lower versus the prior year.
But they have also been affected by supply chain shortages, predominantly the microchip shortage which is impacting the chassis allocation from Ford and GM.
Moving to slide 13, we wanted to give you a perspective of what the underlying normalized results for Q3 would have looked like absent of the supply chain constraints.
On the volume side, we plan to build and sell at least 2,000 units in the quarter, which we were not able to do due to additional shortages.
Had we booked the planned units and avoided the cost incurred to shuffle the production schedule, profits would have been approximately 16 million.
In an average Q3, we would have booked approximately 2.5 thousand units, which would produce an incremental 5 million. So given our current core structure, we would have booked approximately 2.5 thousand units,
in a normal volume quarter would have made approximately 21 million of adjusted EBITDA.
On slide 14, you can clearly see that we made significant progress in virtually all aspects of the profitability compared to Q2, despite slightly lower bath volumes.
Past revenue per unit is up 10,000 and parts revenue is up as well. Adjusted EBITDA is up almost 20 million.
Gross Margin and Adjusted EVDA Margin are both up 9 percentage points.
This is a clear indication that our recovery plan and plant operational improvements are working, and we are ready to deliver profitable growth once the supply chain is stabilizing more.
Moving on to the balance sheet and liquidity on slide 15. We ended the quarter with cash of $26 million. That was $214 million or $47 million higher than last year. Net debt of $187 million was $32 million higher than prior year. It is worth noting that we were in compliance with all covenants at the end of the quarter.
There were two active financial covenants in our credit agreement for the period.
First, the trailing 12-month EBITDA as defined under the credit agreement was $8.7 million versus a minimum requirement of negative $6.8 million.
Second, liquidity, as defined under the credit agreement, was $60.2 million versus the minimum covenant for Q3 of $15 million.
Therefore, we remain in compliance with our Credit Agreement governance.
We are in active discussions with our bank syndicate regarding the next steps for our credit agreement. We are in active discussions with our bank syndicate regarding the next steps for our
Moving on to slide 16, we have already covered the cash and debt on the previous slide.
The reduction in operating cash flow and adjusted free cash flow was primarily driven by trade working capital due to our inventory build in the quarter. I will discuss this in detail on the next slide.
On slide 17, you will see on the left side the increase in raw material and working process we experienced during Q3.
To understand the development, we have to go back to January and February , when the supply chain started to improve. As a result, we decided at the time to ramp up production in Q3 significantly compared to Q2.
Our lead time frozen zone for suppliers is 10 weeks out, so we place increased order quantities at the end of Q2.
Then, the Ukraine was started and the China Covid lockdowns followed and not all of our suppliers could deliver to our increased schedule, but many did.
During Q3, we adjusted back down our production schedule, but a large number of inventory was already on the ground or in transit, and many buses were already set up. And as a result, we had close to 600 buses in working process by quarter-end, compared to a normal level of approximately 300.
Regarding raw material components, it was not only elevated by the parts coming in, but also because we are increasing our strategic prebuys of major components from Ford and Paris.
The EV buses are an increasing portion of our business and they come with a 3 times factor of material cost, once you count the batteries in the EV powertrain kit.
However, we have already seen a significant inventory reduction of 15 million by the end of July and they expect the trend to continue toward Q4 and into Q1 of fiscal 23. In summary, we have an incredibly strong demand which is now supported by higher inventory levels and strategic major component pre-buys positioning us to enter strong into fiscal 23.
On slide 18, we would like to give you an update regarding how we are working to the backlog with oil pricing.
The area sections on the graph represent the unit volumes by month on the left axis.
In white, you can see that almost half of the volume we will build and sell in fiscal 22 comes from fiscal 21 orders, which in today's inflationary environment are yielding low but improving margins due to our recent backlog pricing action.
In light blue we are stacking up units ordered during
Q1 of fiscal 22, although some were quoted also during the second half of fiscal 21, so they are still all 2021 units.
On the right axis, as horizontal lines, you can see the relative improvement in standard gross margin per unit, with the multiple price increases taking hold. In fact, we have doubled our standard gross margin on our backlog versus the end of fiscal 21.
Together with our dealer partners, we are also able to increase partially the prices for backlog units beginning with May production and recover about half of the missing pricing for each respective price level compared to today's level.
Therefore, our average revenue per bus is improving with every quarter.
Additionally, we already implemented a variable pricing option, PPI-based, early this year, and we will announce another variable pricing option, raw material basket-based, later this year.
together with quarterly production slot allocation for second half of fiscal 2023.
More to come on this during our next earnings call.
On slide 19, you see how the steel price is shot back up $300 to $500 per ton in March and April .
and diesel went above $5 per gallon.
While we are locking prices for the 20% of steel approximately that we use in our own fabrication, our suppliers are mostly on a quarterly raw material escalator, which will hit our bottom line in Q4 of fiscal 2022.
Diesel impacted almost immediately our shipping costs via trucks, and the general Tier 2, 3, and 4 supply chain disruptions that started to unravel drove more air freight and expedited plants.
The recent COVID lockdowns in China further compounded the supply chain disruptions during Q3.
The good news is that steel prices resume the downward trend through July , so this should favorably impact our Q1 of fiscal 23.
On slide 20, looking at full year fiscal 2022, as previously discussed, we had an operationally difficult Q3 due to supply constraints. This environment is expected to continue into Q4 and reduce our throughput increase.
Therefore, we are lowering our happiness expectations for the year to 750 to 800 million.
Further impacting our outlook, we are experiencing a recent temporary semiconductor shortage affecting our EV bus production in the second part of Q4. This shortage impacts high margin units and inventory levels by a factor of 3x versus an average bar.
Therefore, we are revising our adjusted EBITDA guidance for fiscal 22 to a range of $5 to $15 million.
The adjusted free cash flow is expected to be better than last year, but remain negative after Q3 year to date on a range of negative 45 to negative 35 million.
With that, I will now turn the discussion back to Matt, who will walk you through our key focus areas and business outlook.
Thank you, Razvan.
On to slide 22. We continue focusing on our foundational objectives of taking care of employees, delighting customers and dealers, and delivering profitable growth.
As you heard throughout the prepared remarks today, we are making progress on our core focus areas for fiscal year 22.
which include our people, lean transformation, expanding our total addressable market with our electric commercial chassis, and scaling for the growth in EV.
Slide 23 is a reminder of the timeline for the EPA Clean School Bus Program.
The applications are due in a little over a week, and as I stated earlier, we've been working with a large number of customers on the application process.
We expect the qualified lottery winners to be notified sometime in October , and we will see those orders in the first quarter of our fiscal year 2023.
Priority districts qualify for $375,000 in funding per bust.
and non-priority districts qualify for $250,000.
There's also money for cleaner emission school buses like propane in which we are the leader in the amounts of fifteen thousand to twenty five thousand per busP
We have deployed substantial resources internally and externally to ensure our customers are successful in participating in this program.
Bluebird is well positioned to receive many orders for clean and cleaner emission buses through this funding.
In summary, the fundamentals of our industry are strong.
Demand is robust.
And Bluebird's backlog of 700,000,063 hundred units is proof of this.
We have significantly increased our standard gross margins through initiatives to address pricing on the new orders and on the backlog.
We also deployed mechanisms on longer term deals to ensure cost recovery in an inflationary environment.
The supply chain is starting to show signs of stabilization.
Plus, we have implemented numerous measures to dramatically improve parts availability.
Although there are some constraints on the horizon for the fourth quarter that will again limit production volume and more specifically impact our throughput on EV units.
We expect these constraints to lessen throughout the remainder of the calendar year.
We have taken aggressive measures to cut costs and right-size the operation through this period to improve profitability.
Our lean transformation initiatives are making progress in reducing production hours per bus and it will bear fruit in a normalised supply chain environment.
As we work to continue on expanding our total addressable market with the electric commercial chassis, we are expanding our leadership in electric school buses through increased infrastructure solutions for customers and bridge solutions to a fully electric future.
We look forward to updating you on our progress. In the meantime, we stay laser focused on our priorities and our deliverables.
We would now like to open up the line for questions. Thank you.
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At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Mike Schliske with DA Davidson. Please go ahead. Thank you.
Yes, hello, good afternoon, thank you.
I guess I wanted to maybe get a little more clarity on the guidance.
I guess I wanted to maybe get a little more clarity on the guidance.
You know, you mentioned that the pricing is getting better. Presumably you will have better pricing once you build out of your backlog in Q4 v. Q3. Supply chain apparently has gotten better the last 30 days or so. You mentioned your internal improvements are all improving. You kind of left open the door for –
basically flat sales and less EBITDA in the fourth quarter.
So I'm curious if you know how likely is that to happen? How likely is the low end from this point, given what you know here around mid-quarter that.
that would make it worse. It just seems like everything's getting better, but you're leaving open the door for something negative to happen. So just a little bit more color there would be appreciated. Hi Mike, this is Razo, and thank you for the question. And as we look at Q4, there are several other factors at play here. So you are correct in the sense that our standard gross margin is improving every quarter, so the mix of units is getting better and better.
On the other hand, on the cost side, we do have several supplier driven cost increases that are becoming effective on July 1st based on our contract, whether they are on a three-month escalator or six-month escalator. And additionally, as mentioned in the remarks before, the harm experienced in the steel prices throughout Q2 and into Q3 is becoming due in our cost also in Q4. For us, I wouldn't go into detail about our quality of the August Commandment Talks itself
higher costs in Q4 compared to Q3.
Additionally, as mentioned in the guidance section as well, we are experiencing this critical but temporary
EV supply chip shortage
Definitely the EV in our backlog and in our production are some of the higher margin units. When you combine all those factors, this is why our Q4 is not a continuing improvement compared to Q3. We retoday refer to a heading trend of the current Moon Cup 2018 peak and we are looking at rising new indices
Okay, thanks. We can touch on some of these questions real quick as well while we're on that topic.
I guess first I want to get a sense for maybe EV bus orders.
call it the last month or two and this month and next couple months, have most EV orders been put on hold entirely until folks hear back from the federal government in October and you anticipate some kind of either those that won their lottery will place the order, those that didn't will just shrug their shoulders and also place the order, but they've all been holding off more recently.
Is that it?
Hey Mike, this is Matt Stevenson. No, that's not the case. There's a there's a number of Orders coming through the funnel here. And so can people are continuing To you know order buses what whether it's from the HVIP program or other funding mechanisms across the country? but we do expect you know that onslaught of You know somewhere around 1500 buses coming out of that first tranche of the Queen school bus program and those orders will fall
in our first fiscal quarter of 23.
I know that the buses can be built by 2024, the ones that are selected, but do you intend to make sure that all the ones that are ordered through Bluebird are all built in fiscal 2023 in time for next school year? So one of the things we're doing Mike is we're allocating production slots for EV every month and working with our key partners Cummins and Exalt to make sure you know we have component availability and our goal would be to try to work through as many of those as possible by the end of our fiscal year.
or didn't ship, but are you pleased with where things turned out given the seasonality on the backlog?
Yeah, I mean, the backlog we have is great, but we also have a number of customers, you know, that have been waiting for their buses and we anticipate, as Roswell stated earlier, you know, higher production rates that the supply chain couldn't sustain. So you know, there were so we would have had more buses in production if we were able to and yes, you were correct. You know, you at this time, you should have seen the backlog peak sometime in the spring and then come down for the seasonality of the business.
From a dollar perspective, even though it was flat, the units were not as large as they
being lower it's just babies is that basically just pricing
or a mix with EVs or a little bit of both? It's a bit of both for sure. So it's an increasing level of EVs and as well as the recent pricing actions taking hold combined with the partial backlog pricing recovery we were able to put in place together with our dealer partners.
Super. I appreciate the color. I'll pass it along.
I appreciate the color. I'll pass it along. Thank you, Mike.
The next question comes from Eric Stein of Craig Hallam. Please go ahead. Hi everyone. Hey Eric. Hi everyone. Hi. Hi. Hi everyone. Hi. Hi everyone. Hi. Hi everyone. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi everyone. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi everyone. Hi everyone. Hi. Hi.
Hey, maybe I'll just stick with the infrastructure funding that's coming here in the somewhat near term. Hey, maybe I'll just stick with the infrastructure funding that's coming here in the somewhat
Any thoughts, Mark Intelligence, you know, I'm sure you're in constant discussion with your dealers and they've got feet on the ground. You know, Propane, I would think you have a dominant share. Any thoughts on, you know, on what your capture rate or you hope your capture rate is for the EV piece of it?
Yeah, I mean, Eric, we're working really hard. We've deployed a number of external and internal resources to partner with our customers to submit applications. In fact, I just saw some data today that was third party market data that 90% of the applications out there have been for EV in totality out there. So I imagine the lion's share of the funding will go for EV. We expect Bluebird to get our historic.
and backlog, especially in light of the fact that, you know, as you said, some of these customers have been waiting for a very extended period of time to get buses. So maybe…
You know, just talk about that process, whether there was pushback, how much, you know, and some of the steps you had to take.
whether there was pushback, how much, you know, and some of the steps he had to take.
Yeah, Eric, you know, it was a lengthy process. We, like I mentioned in the call, you know, we have a great dealer body in the Bluebird Dealers, and we worked through our dealer council and really explained, you know, the unprecedented nature of inflation and commodity costs and just the industrial costs that, you know, all manufacturers have seen, and, you know, took that messaging out to our customers, and we supported that. I was even on calls with any customers, as well as, of course, our sales...
from increased cost. So it wasn't something that they were not familiar with, but like anything is as you can imagine it just took a lot of time and extensive communication to be successful. And again thank our dealers and walking hand-in-hand with us in this process.
Got it. And then maybe last one for me just following up there.
I mean any thoughts on ability with the customer base you know accepting those that repricing thoughts on ability to hold on to some of these price increases should some of these inflationary...
you know what's going on in the market should those ease a bit? Do you think you can hold on to price? Or do you think that that's going to be part of the deal having to give some of that back?
Yes, so definitely we will monitor carefully our competitiveness into the marketplace as we look into the future. And we will have to assess how our pricing actions are comparing to the other competitors. At this point, there is still a lot of cost pressure from the supply base, whether it's inflation, still some commodities with a time lag. So I would say short term, it's unlikely that we will go down. However, we will have to monitor and see how the trends in the general...
materials and installations for labor are developing throughout the next fiscal year.
are developing throughout the next fiscal year. Got it. Thank you.
This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back to Matthew Stevenson for any closing remarks.
All right, thank you, MJ, and thank you to all of those joining us on the call today.
You know, as you heard during our prepared remarks, demand for buses remains incredibly strong with a backlog of 6,300 units worth $700 million.
We also have taken aggressive cost mitigation actions through the end of the calendar year 2022.
On standard gross margins in the backlog, we've been able to double them since October of 2021 through our implemented pricing actions we discussed in depth.
And parts availability is improving through changes we have made in our operation and increased stability in the supply base.
Plus we are continuing our leadership on electric buses, nearly 400 units in the backup log and that is set to dramatically increase when the clean school bus program winners are announced this fall.
Now, we look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter and appreciate your continued interest in Bluebird.
Should you have any follow-up questions, please do not hesitate to contact our Head of Investor Relations, Mark Benfield.
And thanks again from all of us here at Bluebird. Have a good afternoon.
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