Q2 2022 TRACON Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call
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I'll turn the call over to Dr. Charles Thor, President and CEO of Tracon Pharmaceuticals. Dr. Thor?
Thank you for joining TRACON's second quarter 2002-22 Financial Results and Business Update call.
I will begin with an update on our pipeline and then review our recent activities. Following that, Scott Brown, our Chief Financial Officer, will review our financial results for the three and six months ended June 30, 2022. Finally, we will conclude by taking your questions.
I'll start with an update on our continued progress with the NVSARC Pivotal Trial.
We have now enrolled more than 36 patients in Envisarc, which is open for enrollment at 29 sites in the US and one site in the UK.
Accrual has been robust and is ahead of our estimates that project full accrual of 160 patients dosed at the 600 milligram dose to be completed by end of 2023.
This morning we announced that the IDMC reviewed three weeks of safety data from more than 20 patients and recommended the trial continuous planned at the 600mg Envidos.
We expect two additional IDMC reviews this year.
The second safety assessment that occurs 12 weeks after enrollment of the 20th patient is expected in October .
And the interim efficacy assessment that occurs three months following enrollment of the 36th is expected in the fourth quarter.
During the interim efficacy assessment, the committee will apply a futility rule that requires at least one response in 18 patients in each of the two cohorts at the 600 milligram Envid dose. The committee will apply a futility rule that requires at least one response in 18 patients
Note, an identical futility threshold was achieved at the interim analysis performed last year in 36 patients who received a 300 milligram Enva dose.
Recall at that time, a significantly higher response rate was observed in lighter weight patients, which prompted the IDMC to recommend increasing the Envidose to 600 mg.
As a reminder, the Envasar trial includes one cohort who received single agent ENVA and a second cohort who received ENVA in combination with Yervoy.
The primary endpoint in each cohort is objective response rate by resist, as confirmed by Blinded Independent Central Review.
with duration of response being a key secondary endpoint.
In each cohort, the demonstration of 9 out of 80 objective responses by central review, or an 11.25% objective response rate, defines the level of response that satisfies the primary objective of the study.
which is to statistically exceed the 4% objective response rate of Votrient, the only approved treatment for patients with refractory UPS and MFS.
Notably, voltrient is a drug with a black box warning for fatal liver toxicity.
We believe ENVA has the potential to transform the care of refractory sarcoma patients through the demonstration of superior efficacy and safety compared to Botrien.
Based on data from trials of other checkpoint inhibitors and refractory UPS and MFS, we are targeting a 15% response rate for single agent ENVA and up to a 30% response rate for evidence ENVA given with your voice.
Furthermore, we plan to approach the FDA to discuss a VLA filing strategy as soon as we determine nine responses in either cohort.
Finally, based on activity already observed in Envisarc, we have applied for fast track designation with the FDA and expect a response from the agency later this year.
Our second checkpoint inhibitor, YH001, is a potential best-in-class CTLA-4 antibody we licensed from U-Cure Biopharma in October of last year.
Earlier this month, we submitted an ID application to the FDA for the initiation of a Phase I-II clinical trial.
of Y001 in combination with ENVA and doxorubicin for the treatment of sarcoma patients, including patients who have not received prior therapy.
As a reminder, we received a broad license to develop and commercialize Y001 in North America in sarcoma and multiple other indications.
including microsatellite stable colorectal cancer, renal cell carcinoma, and KRAS-positive lung cancer.
Note, with respect to our license, we can substitute any one of those indications for bladder cancer and the mutual cancer or melanoma at our election.
In these non-SARCOME indications, Y001 could be combined with existing standard of care agents including marketed PD-1 antibodies.
Our initial Y-001 trial leverages data from two phase one trials conducted by our partner, CodeCure.
These two trials demonstrated the recommended phase two dose of Y001 as a single agent and in combination with the PD-1 antibody tori-palimap.
Our sponsored Phase II clinical trial will evaluate a triplet that includes Y001, Enva, and doxorubicin chemotherapy.
as doxorubicin is the current frontline standard of care treatment for sarcoma.
following the phase one portion of the trial to assess the tolerability of the combination of the ENVA and Y001 doublet, as well as the triplet therapy that includes Doxorubicin.
We will assess the response rate in common and rare sarcoma subtypes to combination treatment.
with the intent of demonstrating superior response rates compared to historical data using standard of care agents.
In myosarcoma and liposarcoma, we plan to compare the response rate of triplet therapy to the historical 10 to 15% response rate of single agent doxorubicin.
In the case of rare sarcoma subtypes, like chondrosarcoma and alveolar soft part sarcoma, where chemotherapy is not highly effective, we intend to study the doublet of Y001 and ENVA to assess the response rate compared to the historical response rates with chemotherapy or single agent checkpoint inhibition.
One of the purposes of this Phase 1-2 trial is to determine the subtypes of sarcoma that best respond to the combination of ENVA, Y001, and doxorubicin.
Following the potential accelerated approval of ENVA, assuming positive trial results in the pivotal ENVASarc trial.
The FDA will require a randomized trial to demonstrate a survival benefit.
We expect this Phase III post-approval trial will compare single-agent doxorubicin to the triplet combination of doxorubicin with ENVA and Y001, with PFS as the endpoint.
This trial would be expected to enroll patients with UPS and MFS, as well as other sarcoma subtypes shown to respond to triplet therapy based on data from the Phase 1-2 trial that I described earlier.
The ability for Tracon to commercialize two in-license immune oncology therapies together in sarcoma is of great strategic benefit.
It is important to understand the sales potential in sarcoma with ENVA at parity pricing is not solely the forecasted $200 million in annual ENVA revenues expected in the initial indications of refractor UPS and MFS.
as well as the $100 million in annual revenue in rare sarcoma subtypes, where the activity checkpoint inhibition has been demonstrated.
Our clinical development strategy is designed to create the opportunity for Enva to broadly benefit patients with sarcoma in the frontline, adjuvant, and neoadjuvant settings by seeking supplemental indications.
Moreover, we believe Tracon's total sarcoma-driven sales revenue would be significantly enhanced by marketing Y001 and Enva together as part of a treatment combination.
in sarcoma.
In addition to our two checkpoint inhibitors, we are pleased that the National Cancer Institute continues to fund development of our DNA damage repair inhibitor, TRC-102.
The National Cancer Institute has initiated a randomized phase two trial assessing TRC-102 in stage three, non-squamous, non-small cell lung cancer in combination with chemo-radiation.
The two-arm trial will enroll 78 patients to assess the benefit of adding TRC-102 to current standard care treatment of pematrexate, cisplatin, and radiation therapy, followed by consolidated drevalumab treatment.
the primary endpoint of the trial's PFS, and the trial's design to detect an improvement in PFS at one year from 56% to 75%.
Results are expected in 2024.
Our fourth clinical stage asset is the CD73 antibody TJ4309 that a TRACON is evaluating in a phase 1 study as a single agent and in combination with a checkpoint inhibitor to Centric.
We are working to complete data analysis of the trial which has enrolled the last patient.
As a reminder, IMAD has indicated the desire to exercise their option to terminate the TJ4309 license following completion of the Phase I trial for a payment to track out of $9 million.
While we expected the study would be completed by the end of the second quarter, we are awaiting results of the final clinical sample testing that we now expect will be completed this quarter.
This then triggers IMAB's option to reacquire TJ4309 for $9 million.
Next, I will provide an update on our legal disputes with IMAP.
As a reminder, IMAP commenced arbitration in June 2020 after TRACON invoked contractual dispute resolution provisions asserting that IMAP had reached its contractual obligations concerning both of our agreements entered into in November 2018.
We filed counterclaims in the arbitration seeking to recover over $200 million in damages from IMAB based on the alleged breaches.
Under the applicable rules of the arbitration, the prevailing party may also be awarded attorney's fees at the tribunal's discretion.
In February of this year, arguments for alleged breaches of both of our agreements with IMAB were heard before an international Chamber of Commerce arbitration tribunal under New York law and the final post-chearing briefs were submitted to the tribunal in late May.
On June 2nd, the International Court of Arbitration of the ICC notified us to expect a final decision by September 30th, although the tribunal may ask the ICC for a further extension if warranted.
The claims under the arbitration are complex. Accordingly, we cannot predict the outcome of the arbitration, and we are unable to estimate the amount of recovery of damages, if any, that may be awarded by the tribunal.
Depending on the results of the arbitration, we continue to meet our obligations under the terms of both agreements.
We will promptly provide an update when the tribunal panel announced their findings.
Given the challenging capital markets, the expectation to secure non-dilutive capital from our corporate partners is important.
In the meantime, we recently secured capital through another source.
In June , our largest shareholder, Opelai, purchased $4 million in common stock and pre-funded warrants at market price without the issuance of common warrants.
Capital from this transaction extends our cash runway into the first half of 2023.
Our runway would be further extended by the $9 million payment expected later this year from IMAP related to their stated intent to reacquire TJ4309 following completion of the Phase I trial and would be further extended through any arbitration award.
As we have noted in the past, we expect to further supplement our CAF physician through opportunities for non-dilutive capital enabled through our zero independent product development platform that we believe positions us as one of the most efficient clinical development organizations.
We expect to continue to leverage our platform in two ways that provide for potential non-dilutive capital to TRACON.
First, we are evaluating drug candidates whereby Tracon performs clinical trials at a lower cost than a CRO, but still at a premium to our costs using a pay-for-performance model that Tracon further benefits by earning a share of the revenue, including sublicensing fees and our royalties from commercialization.
This is an aligned structure we used in the past, for example, with Johnson & Johnson.
Second, we are exploring a franchise model whereby we are paid to share our proprietary capabilities and know-how to enable another company to independently internalize clinical operations and use these new capabilities to avoid contracting with CROs to execute clinical trials. We are also exploring a franchise model whereby we are paid to share our proprietary capabilities
As has been the experience at Tracon, such an investment would be expected to result in substantial time and cost savings for our partner.
We believe that over time, our product development platform has earned strong credibility as a compelling solution for companies who wish to become CRO independent and reap the rewards of conducting trials faster, at higher quality, and at lower cost compared to trials typically contracted to CROs.
At this time, Scott will provide an update on our financials.
Thank you, Charles, and good afternoon, everyone.
Tracon's research and development expenses were $2.9 million and $5.9 million for the three and six months ended June 30, 2022, respectively, compared to $3.1 million and $5.4 million for the comparable periods of 2021.
The increase in the six-month period was primarily related to additional enrollment in the pivotal EMP Corpse G Definitely similar to Harrisburg's silent
General and Administrative expenses were $3.3 million and $9.8 million for the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2022, respectively, compared to $6.1 million and $8.8 million for the comparable periods of 2021.
The decrease in the three-month period was due to the lawsuit filed in Delaware Court of Chancery by IMAB in 2021 and the increase in the six-month period was primarily related to legal expenses in connection with the arbitration hearing with IMAB in February of this year.
We expect G&A expenses to decrease significantly for the remainder of the year as the arbitration hearing is now complete.
Our net loss was 6.2 million and 15.7 million for the 3 and 6 months ended June 30th, 2022 respectively compared to 8.9 million and 14 million for the comparable periods of 2021.
Turning to the balance sheet, at June 30, 2022, our cash and cash equivalents totaled $13.6 million, compared to $24.1 million on December 31, 2021.
We expect our current capital resources to be sufficient to fund our planned operations into 2023.
With that, I will turn the call back over to Charles.
Thank you, Scott.
As you have heard, our corporate strategy is proceeding as planned. Allow me to recap with five key events we expect this year.
First, we expect to report the IDMC interim efficacy assessment for the two Envistar cohorts at the 600 milligram dose of Enva.
Second, we expect to dose the first patient in the phase 1-2 trial of our potential best-in-class CTLA-4 antibody YH001 in combination with Enva and Doxrubicin as a potential first-line treatment for sarcoma.
Third, we expect to further leverage our unique product development platform to provide Tracon non-dilutive capital in exchange for enabling companies tired of being beholden to CROs to potentially benefit from our capabilities and realize for themselves the substantial time and cost savings we enjoy at Tracon.
Fourth, we expect to complete the TJ 4309 Phase 1 trial permitting IMAB the opportunity to exercise their stated desire to terminate the agreement for a payment to TRACON of $9 million.
Fifth, we expect to report the arbitration panel's binding decision, including potential damage awards regarding our legal disputes that I met.
As Scott indicated, our current cash runway extends into the first half of 2023 and past each of the five key upcoming milestones, including expected non-dilutive capital from an existing partnership.
Thank you for your time and attention, and we are now available to answer your questions.
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Our first question comes from Mario Raycroft with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Thank you very much for small stamping the comment section
Hi, Charles. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress. First question I was going to ask is just for checking the box on the 70 original patients in MvSarc at the lower dose. Can you say what proportion of those patients have been titrated up to 600 mg dose? And to clarify, would those data be disclosed along with the final analysis for MvSarc?
Hi, Maura. Thanks for the question. As you pointed out, we treated 70 patients with an initial dose of 300 milligrams of Envifolumab, and then once the amendment to dose at 600 milligrams was approved at each individual site, we had to do a test.
those patients that were on study at that time were able to dose escalate to 600 milligram. You know, I can't give you exact numbers, Maury, but many patients have dose escalated from 300 to 600 milligrams. And so really they're going to be, in terms of the final data, if you will,
The primary endpoint, to be clear, is being assessed with respect to the 600 milligram dosing patients, meaning the patients who started the trial at 600 milligrams. There will be 80 patients that received Envat 600 and 80 that received Envat plus Yervoy with Envat 600. And that's the primary data set for the primary outcome.
But there will be additional data in 70 patients dosed to 300 milligrams initially and a subset of those that dose escalated to 600. So those are the three data sets and all those will be part of you will be filing for the expected approval of the drug with the 70 patients including those that dose escalated 600 being a supportive data set. But I can't give you exact numbers in terms of the categories within the 70 that dose escalated to 600. Got it.
Okay, understood and that's helpful. And I also wanted to ask a question about the Phase 1-2 with ENVA, YH01, and Dr. Rubison. Do you plan on reporting data after the Phase 1 portion is completed? And can you remind me if you see potential for an accelerated approval path based on the Phase 2?
Great questions, Maury. With respect to the trial, we do expect to provide data following completion of the Phase I. This is not a registrational trial, so it's different with respect to the design than the Envisar trial, which is, as you know, a pivotal study. So we will plan to report data at the conclusion of the Phase I portion, and then also each of the four Phase II courts may enroll kind of at different paces, if you will. There are two common sarcoma subtypes and two rarer ones, so we'll report the Phase II data.
kind of as it comes out per cohort.
You ask an interesting question. I mean, we are dealing with respect to the phase two portion of the study with some very underserved subtypes of sarcoma.
You know, we're not planning this phase one trial as a pivotal study to be clear, but if there's very promising data, you know, there's a possibility of bringing up discussions with the agency.
to meet what are incredible unmet needs within these patient populations. But at the outset, this is not planned as a pivotal study, but that said, data will dictate our approach to...
interact with the agency around very promising data, if that were to be the case.
Got it. That makes sense. And for advancing into the frontline in Phase 3, can you talk about some of the gating factors that you're going to be looking for in the Phase 1-2 prior to starting at Phase 3?
Sure, I appreciate the question, Maurice. So each of the four phase two cohorts, so lye myosarcoma, dedifferentiate liposarcoma, chondrosarcoma, and alveolar soft part sarcoma, each have a separate, if you will, endpoint, meaning a targeted objective response rate they were looking to hit that would be clearly superior to the...
objective response rate seen with single agent chemotherapy with doxorubicin. So if all four hit that targeted response rate, which is our goal, then we'd enroll all four of those subtypes in addition to UPS and MFS in that potential phase 3 trial.
Got it. Last question and then I'll hop back in the queue. Just wondering if you have insight into U-Cure data updates for Y-H-O-1 that could happen this year or next year and will one or two of those updates be relevant to TRACON that we should be looking for? No.
Yeah, I think the most recent update, you know, U-CURE did present data at ASCO with the combination study of Y001 with Tori Palomab. I thought it was very encouraging data, both from a safety perspective, but also from an efficacy perspective where there were several responses across multiple solid tumor types.
We could see some additional data from the single agent trial that is also a phase one study. Remember, there were two phase one studies they did, the combo with Tori Palomab and then the single agent study. So we might see an update on the single agent data.
I think with respect to further updates on the combination trial, I think the ASCO poster actually was fairly complete with respect to the patients that had been enrolled. So we were pleased to see that updated report and encouraged by both the safety and efficacy that was reported at ASCO this year.
Got it. Okay. Thanks for taking my question. Thank you, Maury.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Ed White with HC Wainwright. Your line is open.
line of Ed White with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open.
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions.
So, Charles, just want to change gears here a little bit and ask you a little bit about your CRO independent clinical development program and capabilities there.
Thank you.
Are you?
How does it work with the franchise model? Has there been any company that's been interested so far? How long would a process take to get that?
technology or in know-how over to a separate company.
Hi, thanks for the question.
We have generally explored the franchise model in the following manner. There are companies that right now have a significant pipeline.
And if they have a significant pipeline, in our view, they're paying an exorbitant amount of their operational expenses to fund those trials, running them through a CRO using the fee-for-service plus guaranteed monthly payment model that.
frankly, is not the best use of capital. We feel those companies were to adopt our franchise model, they could run their trials.
at half the cost or even potentially lower of what they're paying a CRO. So you can appreciate that the ideal company for this type of model is one that has a pipeline of say more than one product in one trial. But for that company, learning our systems would be transformative in terms of the capital they would save, the time they would save.
And frankly, we also think the quality would be better. Now in terms of identifying the company, we have identified, let's say a handful of companies, just a couple I think is kind of how we look at it. We just want to initially focus on one company because it is a major undertaking for both us and the company. It's going to be something, it's something for us to try to adopt over 10 years.
But with respect to that company, we do feel that if they intensely invested in this program,
within six months they would be running their own trials. It could be phase one, it could be phase two, it could be phase three. They would be saving incredible amounts of capital and they'd be engaged in a process much like Tracon where we feel they could save a year.
per phase of development. So a year on each phase one, phase two, and phase three trials such that if an overall program goes to market, they potentially could save three years on the process of developing their drug.
So that should give you, I think, a general idea of how we're thinking about it, why it appeals to certain companies, and why it takes a special company that we want to, if you will, teach this franchise model initially, and once that company learns it, then we would kind of move on to another company. But our goal is to really transform the industry, help more people reap the advantages we have by being zero independent.
And from a timing standpoint, do you think you would be more likely to do a franchise model first or you're paid for a performance model? Would that be, it sounds like that would be an easier sell.
I think that's a great point. I mean, I think the nice thing about the pay for performance model is that we've done that. You know, for instance, with Johnson & Johnson, we've executed around that model. And it's a lot easier for the company that collaborates with us through pay for performance because
they don't have to learn our systems, right? They're saying, please work with us.
We'll give you the molecule, you take it through the trial, and then it's still our partner's molecule, they still have commercial rights. We share in the revenue from that commercialization, but from our partner's point of view, it's not much more work than if they hired a CRO. The advantage is it's cheaper for them.
faster for them and we also feel the quality of our work is better. But it doesn't require a big investment of their time to learn systems de novo, which the franchise model does. So to your point Ed, I think continuing to execute around the pay for performance model, which is something that we've done on more than one occasion, would make the most sense in terms of what would get done in the sooner timeframe.
Okay, thanks, Charles. One last question, if I may. Just on the 4309.
What is the definitive last thing that needs to be done in order for IMAD to terminate the license and pay the $9 million?
Yeah, it really is, completing the phase one study is really analyzing some clinical samples, which we expect to be able to complete this quarter and then that would trigger the opt-in.
Okay, Charles, thanks for taking my questions.
Thank you Ed, much appreciated.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from Sumit Roy with Jones Research. Your line is now open.
Hi everyone and congratulations on all the progress.
If I may ask one question on the NBSAR trial. So, year-end when you are going to present interim data from the 36 patients, what do you expect the duration on drug would be? Are we going to be in a similar situation as last year where most of the patient won't be around 24 weeks where we mostly see the responses happen? So, any color on that would be appreciated.
No, I appreciate the question, Shomit. It is a bit like last year in the sense that, you know, with respect to this year, at the 600 milligram dose, you know, we were dosing patients, you know, by first quarter. So there's a potential for patients to be on drug, you know, as long as, say, 11 months, if you were, say, to go to the very end of the year. In terms of the minimum time on study is three months. So, you know, I'd say anywhere between, say, three and, say, 10 months or so.
would be the maximum time a patient would be on therapy. So as is the case last year, what we're going to report and do the analysis, it's a preliminary response rate, knowing to your point, not every patient responds on the first or second CT scan. We know that for a fact, especially with combination checkpoint inhibition that many patients won't respond to your point until say 24 weeks or thereafter. So our goal is to clearly see activity in both cohorts.
we need to see at least one response for the futility analysis. And it would be nice to see a double digit response rate even at this early analysis, knowing that that response would likely grow and it could grow significantly based on what you pointed out, that many responses in sarcoma to isotherapy take more than just three months to develop.
So would you say like at least half the patients will have?
six months on drug or less than that.
Well, we announced the 36th patient was enrolled as of July , so those patients...
And we did see, I'd say, a nice.
amount of accrual in the last three months. So, yeah, I think a lot of patients will have three months on therapy. You know, there'll be a segment, we'll have six months, and then that rarer segment we'll have, say, nine months potentially.
Yeah, I would say a lot of patients will have, if you will, just two scans.
the third scan will get done before we actually have the DMC meeting. But it's going to be in that ballpark show minute, if you will.
Okay, no, that's really helpful. Thank you for that. Last question on the...
When you're starting the frontline trial in sarcoma, I was under the impression that it would not be UPS MFS and it would focus more on well-differentiated or live myosarcoma so that it doesn't compete with your current second line or relapsed refractory.
No, you're exactly right, show me.
No, you're exactly right. So the phase 1, 2 trials, to be clear, those are enrolling patients with sarcoma that does not include MFS and UPS. So to your point, we will not cannibalize enrollment into the Envisarc trial. What is expected to happen is that once the phase 1, 2 trial is done and Envisarc is done, when we start that phase 3 study, which will be the post-reprove commitment study,
that that would then enroll UPS and MFS because Envishark will be fully enrolled and also include other subtypes, including the subtypes that it would enroll in the phase one, two trial where we see activity of that triplet therapy.
You are not having any enrollment criteria on the TPS score or would you get only greater than 5%? You are not having any enrollment criteria on the TPS score or would you get only greater
Yeah, so for sarcoma.
In the phase one, two study, we're enrolling by histology. We will do post-hoc analyses looking at biomarkers, including PD-L1 expression, including, for example, what's called the sarcoma immune class. We'll do post-hoc analyses looking at biomarkers, including PD-L1 expression, including, for example, what's called the sarcoma immune classification to see if there's a possibility of selecting patients based on a biomarker. That would be a post-hoc analysis based on the phase one, two trial.
But if that is highly informative, it's possible that the phase II trial could also include biomarker enriched enrollment. So all those are to be determined based on the results of the phase II trial.
And thank you so much for taking the questions and congratulations again on all the progress.
Thank you, Sherman. Appreciate it.
Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question at this time, please press star 1 1 on your touch tone telephone.
Our next question comes from Nick Abbott with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.
I'll go up there if I can take your questions and congrats to the team. First of all, Charles, can you elaborate on the FastTrack application? Is that Enver plus UoI, Enver plus YA201?
What did that cover?
Sure. No, I appreciate the question, Nick. Yeah, the Fast-Track application is for Envifolumab based on activity we've seen as a single agent. So our expectation is to gain Fast-Track status for Envifolumab that would then facilitate the...
expected NVISAR pivotal trial filing or the filing based on the NVISAR pivotal trial data. And we do expect to receive that designation later this year.
And is that the activity you've seen?
outside of cohort C and D that goes from the...
Save one. I think you've got orphan drug.
based on clinical activity. So in the 10 of all, I'm not saying it implies that you haven't seen activities that are combination, but what about the combination?
Good question. So, you know, with respect to Fast-Track, it's really more pertinent, I'd say the data's more pertinent single agent activity just because you can definitely say that's your drug. So, to your point, we saw single agent activity in sarcoma in Phase 1 in the alveolar soft part sarcoma, which was really important in terms of securing orphan drug designation. And then we saw single agent activity at 300 milligrams.
in the NBSARC trial.
Again, with that activity, significantly more evident in the lighter weight patients. So based on the single agent activity we've seen in phase one and also in Envishark even at the lower dose, we feel there's clear evidence of single agent activity that we feel will be sufficient to secure fast track designation.
Okay and then how does that play with your prior comments on seeking breakthrough parenting designation?
Yeah, no, great, great question. So, you know, breakthrough therapy designation is a higher hurdle, and so we would await the results of the interim analysis end of the year as the basis for considering a breakthrough application.
Just because that is clearly a higher hurdle and we don't have enough data at this point until we do the interim analysis end of the year to consider an opportunity like that.
Okay and then I've asked this before, obviously the opportunity to broaden the FOLAMAV license. Where are you on that and as you think about this franchise model is there an opportunity to sort of do some horse trading that you might go to broaden the FOLAMAV and return from the franchise.
You know, that's a very perceptive question, Nick. I would say just in general we remain incredibly interested in expanding the field of use for endofolumab and we would definitely entertain...
you know offering our expertise in terms of running clinical trials in order to to do that, so
still a high priority for our companies to expand the field of use for NFO and MAP.
Okay, and then you kind of mentioned right at the very end, you know, the franchise are raising non-dilutive capital, then you said from an existing partnership and I think you outlined, I think it was the headquarters earlier, you were...
with what some of this entails, do you feel confident that you might be able to...
either a franchisee this year or secure at least one development opportunity.
It's definitely one of our goals for the year. I think
Nick, to the earlier question, I think it's probably much more likely that we'd engage in the pay-for-performance model that includes the revenue share just because that's a...
It's an easier idea to understand for a potential partner and something we've executed multiple times before. But that is an important corporate goal for us this year.
Okay, thanks. And then just to add a bit, I know you spent some time describing the YA-H1 trial, but can you just outline again the steps in order – you need to get there in order to get to the first-line patients and, you know, what – when we might see data from that stepwise approach.
Yeah. Sure, sure, Nick. Yeah, so the study is a Phase I-II trial, and we expect to initiate dosing this year in the Phase I portion. I don't think the Phase I portion will take that long because we have the advantage that our partners have already completed two Phase I trials, but we want to just make sure that the dose of Y0 is the one we select is not only tolerable with Envafolumab, but also with doxorucin. Once we establish that dose of Y0 is the one that's tolerable with Envafolumab 600 and standard dose doxorubicin.
frontline therapy and I think that's going to be really exciting.
investigators are excited because of that prospect, as are we as a company.
Yes, and so we can show you that.
That's a realistic objective for next year is to get into phase two.
Yes, exactly right, Nick.
I think when you did the YH001 license, you talked about perhaps starting a solid tumor trial later this year, and I think Green-Ops cell was high up on your list. Is that still a goal for this year?
That's still a goal for the program. I don't think we'll start that this year, Nick, but that is a goal for the program. That would be a goal for 2023 is to begin investigation of a non-sarcoma indication once we get the sarcoma study up and running.
Okay, perfect. Thanks, y'all.
Appreciate the questions, Nick. Thank you.
Thank you.
Our next question is a follow-up from Mari Raycross with Jefferies. She wants to open.
Thanks for taking the follow-up question. I just wanted to ask one about the $200 million in damages related to 4309 arbitration. I'm guessing you can't say too much about your specific case, but are there good proxies or analogs as it relates to your case that support, number one, the claim for $200 million in damages, and then, number two, I guess how much was rewarded in those other proxy cases?
I appreciate the question.
I can't say a ton about arbitration because it is a confidential proceeding and
Yeah, I think that's the other problem with thinking about proxies. A lot of times, arbitration is confidential as opposed to, say, a lawsuit in a public court. You know, I would just point out that the arbitration damages that we seek relate not just to TJ4309 but also to the Biospecific Antibody Agreement, which, as you recall, you know, is an agreement whereby Tracon was to be provided five bisectant antibodies over the course of, or we were able to pick five bisectant antibodies over the course of five years.
and we feel is very valuable. And I think if you were to evaluate deals done by pharma companies to get that type of access.
Yeah, those are those are deals that
are valuable as indicated in the public announcement. So that's maybe a proxy to think about, but I can't go into details regarding the arbitration itself.
Got it. Understood. That makes sense. Okay. Thank you. Thanks again.
Thank you, Maury. Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Joel Beatty with Baird. Your line is now open.
Thanks for taking the questions. The first one is on Envafolumab. Could you discuss the confidence now in the 600 milligram dose level? And is it, you know, pretty much based on what was learned before starting this new cohort? Or are there additional learnings here from this cohort or from the patients that were escalated from 300 to 600 in the previous cohort that, you know, helped add to the confidence?
Sure, John , I appreciate the question. So we escalated from 300 to 600 milligrams, you know, at the advice of the IDMC when they noted that there was clearly significant higher activity in lighter weight patients. And because it's a flat dose, we're going to have to do it again.
If we double the dose, we give every patient the optimal chance to respond irrespective of their body weight. And I think what we've learned going to 600 so far is that the drug has been very safe, and I think that was reflected in today's announcement when the DMC evaluated more than 20 patients' worth of data at the higher dose.
And I would point out that that's not surprising. We know from phase one testing that this drug was dosed at even fourfold higher doses than 600 and was shown to be tolerable. So it's nice to confirm that the 600 milligram dose is safe and that again is not an unexpected announcement. In terms of activity, we knew in phase one that patients that responded to sarcoma in phase one had the equivalent of the 600 milligram dose so that was useful data.
to understand why that's a logical choice to increase to once we saw the increased activity in the lighter weight patients.
In terms of 300 milligrams to 600 milligrams dose escalation, I'd point out that that happened based on the decision already to go to 600. So we will have data on those patients, as I mentioned, that'll be part of the supplemental data to support the expected BLA. But those data actually didn't inform our decision to go to 600 because that decision was made before the dose escalation happened in those individual patients.
And the dose estimate is really based on the clear activity we saw at that dose level in phase one, the fact that it was expected to be safe.
the fact that the 600 milligram doses is
higher even than the dose approved in China that showed a very robust response rate in MSI high cancer. And so those were all factors that made the 600 milligram dose logical to move to in MDSAR.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And then a question on expenses, how to think about them over the next couple of quarters as, you know, it seems like clinical trial activity could be increasing while the legal dispute may be winding down.
Yeah thanks Joel this is Scott. So on the G&A side you know we do expect expenses to continue to come down. You know our normal baseline is around 2 million a quarter so that's what we would expect you know in the low 2 million dollar range for the second half of this year and even in...
the first part of next year, assuming no additional.
legal expenses related to the arbitration.
And then on the R&D side, we'd expect similar to the first half of the year in around 3 million a quarter with probably small increases due to additional enrollment and the Y001 trial getting up and running, but nothing too much above kind of a low to mid $3 million a quarter.
Thank you.
Great, thank you. Yep, thank you, Joel.
Thank you. And I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to call back over to Dr. Thoreau for closing remarks.
Well, I just wanted to thank the listeners and thank you especially to the analysts for your questions. We look forward to updating you later this quarter. Have a good day.
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