Q2 2022 Kandi Technologies Group Inc Earnings Call

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Greetings and welcome to Candy Technology's second quarter 2022 Financial Results Call.

At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-announcement session will follow the formal presentation.

If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star and then zero on the telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would not like to turn the conference over to the IR manager, Kiwa Luwo, please go ahead.

Thank you. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today.

To discuss Kennedy's results for the second quarter of 2022, earlier today we issued our press release covering the results. You can find the press release on a company's website as well as from Youth Wires Services. Our call with me today are Mr. Houshia Mi, Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Allen Lin, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Houshia Mi will deliver prepared remarks in Chinese, which I will then translate. And after that, we will have a Q&A session.

Before we continue, please note that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements made under the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. private securities litigation reform act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. As such, the company's actual results may be materially different from the expectations expressed today.

For the information we brought in these and other risks and alternatives is included in the company's public filing with the SEC. The company does not assume any obligation to update any forward local statement except as required under applicable law. Please note that unless otherwise stated or figures mentioned during the call today are in US dollars. With that let me now turn the call over to our CEO who saw me go ahead and listen to who.

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Thank you, Kewa, hello everyone and welcome to Ken's earnings conference call today. I'm proud of Alston referred by our team to deliver solid results despite many challenges in economic environment caused by weeps with COVID and U-Quin Russia conflict.

Early in the second quarter, there was a present dentist supply chain disruption in China due to prolonged lockdowns in major cities, especially Shanghai. Despite these headwinds, our team rose to the occasion. We have continuously refined our business strategy and we saw the positive impact of this effort in the second quarter.

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This relative success in a harsh environment was enabled by our flexible business model. We are constantly innovating to find new products to address emerging areas of growth. A great example is the category of off-road vehicles. Our off-road vehicle revenue in the second quarter increased by 84% year over year. In the first half of 2022, we introduced the all-electric golf crossovers.

monthly production jumped to 200 units from just double digits in March.

Customers are thrilled with our new products and demand is high. With the trend of electrification of vehicles, we intend to develop a variety of new all-electric off-road vehicles such as ETV, ATV and so on. We will launch those new products.

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In addition, regarding all battery exchange equipment and battery exchange service, we have called an edge battery swapping technology in the EV market in China. However, we search in the waves of COVID and the lack of healthy growth in the China EV market are impacting the battery swap effort.

What I mean here by the lack of health growth in the China EV market is referring to many Chinese EV manufacturers are competing in loss in order to capture the market share.

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Let's now start the QA session. You always take any English questions and translate for me. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will be conducting a question and answer session.

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Our first question is from Harold DeBurry, who's a private investor. Please go ahead.

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Question 1, back in April , a China auto web portal reported that the candy K-23 has been re-launched in China as the Hengi HR-2 7000 BEV-01 can Mr. Hu explain the rationale and significance of this on candy to include what it means financially to candy, both now and in the future. It does see that candy is the assembly of the car.

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So thank you for your question. To address that Hanhe is a trademark and basically a brand we use for all the EVs we incorporate with Hanren. Our cooperation with Hanren is mainly that we are responsible for the production of the electric vehicles that enable the bad through-its-wide mode. We produce the motors, the parts and then Hanren.

will adopt our parts and assemble to be a whole vehicle. So basically the cooperation is mainly to achieve the compliance in terms of the production and sales in the PLC market. In terms of the impact of financials, it will definitely increase our sales of the EV parts.

Thank you. Question 2. Facebook Marketplace has a small used 2 door white UTV EV with the candy name on the grill that looks exactly like the Hengi HRS1 China. It's being sold by the Della Space iDrive 1 dealership. There's not a lot about this car on the net.

I noticed that the Chinese version is a full speed 102 mile per hour car as compared to the US 35 mile non-limited car. What is Chinese relationship to the small EV?

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The iDrive 1 dealership in Dallas also seems to be a primary seller with a big inventory of both the K32 and EV trucks and the $3,500 trailkink sledge bike.

How are they selling overall and will the K32 ever be considered for sale in China as a full highway truck?

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So there are two questions here. First of all, it's about the question for the iDrive 1. That's the dealer in Dallas. And so our US entity, SCO, reports sells the products to other dealers, including iDrive 1. And as for the specific sales of those dealers, we won't be sure because they may have some other products that it's not forwarded by us.

so we don't have too much information for the whole sales per se. And as for the K32, that's the used EV that we designed specifically for the US market because it's in the scale of the fully enclosed EV type. And then in China, there's no such market demand. So at the moment, we don't have the plan to sell it to China yet. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you very much. The next question is from Terry McLemore of the

Yes, thank you. I want to cover a little bit more on the battery swap with Hunan Hingren. There was a press release back in January that announced the initial framework to that battery swap. Can you tell me, has that deal been activated?

I would like to thank you for your time. I hope you will continue to listen to our videos. We hope you will continue to listen to our videos. Thank you for your time.

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Thank you. The next question is from Michael Fairford of Oppenheimer. Peace, guys. Peace, guys.

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With Candy Stock price trading at such a massive discount to cash, working capital, and shareholder equity, and Candy sitting on a huge cash stock pile, why hasn't the company been more aggressive and completing, and even adding to last year's announced $20 million share by-back.

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So, thanks for your concern. At the moment, because of there's all the huge influence from the first outbreak of the COVID, the resurgence of the COVID and the lockdown in PLC market, plus the military conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the whole international economic situation and the condition is very severe and uncertain.

and in such a condition, the management believes that we should hold the session task to cope with the upcoming uncertain economic situation. We want to go through this at the time and...

In the meantime, we know that the share price of the company is seriously undervalued, understated. However, we believe that with the gradual adjustments and refinement of our business strategy, and then the improvement of our company's financial performance, the share price will go back to the reasonable level.

The management believes that in the current economy situation, it does not a good move to finally rely on the buybacks to increase their stock price, because that may not be...

a perm or consistent move. But definitely we will do the repurchase the shares as planned.

One other comment, to be able to buy back shares.

at less than half book value and a 25 to 30% discount to cash seems like a no-brainer. Particularly when compared to past buybacks at prices up to mid $5 price by both the company and Mr. Who.

personally, along with at least one other director.

On the last conference call, a suggestion was made that the company consider looking into a more formal Dutch auction tender, something that would certainly bring a lot of tension.

A positive tension to candy at this perfect time to do to a strong cast position and likely revenue explosion ahead this year. The key to success with the Dutch auction.

is it will remind all that candy is trading under cash in the bank.

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to the company and if that makes sense in the current market, we will explore and get back to you guys later if you have plans to do so.

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Well, it's probably much better by here at these levels, since it's half the price. So, I'm going to be a little bit more careful. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. I'm going to be a little bit more careful.

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Thank you. The next question is from author of Bokkari of corporate strategies. Please

Thank you. Good evening Mr. Who. On last quarter's conference call in 10Q, the company surprised the shareholders with the unexpected $70 million US-based golf cart agreement with units already being sold.

Though this huge two-part order in size was disclosed in the Q1 10Q, this order was never announced as a freestanding PR. Yet the new product line, if Target reached, as reported last quarter's 10Q, would likely generate revenues this year, almost equally Candy's total revenues last year.

Can you explain to us what possessed management back at the time in Q1 when everyone's business was crashing for Candy to suppress publicly announcing a new product order of this size at a time when Candy stock was also collapsing.

and has never recovered, along with the market. Also, from the comment in today's PR, it's safe to assume Candy's golf cart business is expected to grow in future years. If so, how much? Could you pass it on and ask that question to Mr. Who, please?

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Right, so our mindset was to establish the fundamental of the new business because we always try to adjust our strategy so our plan was to get it materialized before we have a third of the very concrete announcements to the public. But we'll definitely take that in mind and be more prepared in the future. Thank you.

As for the questions, basically for March, we have already shipped out from China to our US entity with a fill of the dozens of the pieces of the golf cards. And from April and May this year, we started to deliver over thousands of pieces of the golf cards to US. However, because a majority of those deliveries is still in shipment at the moment, so we only recognize a few hundreds of the revenue of that.

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230 million in cash. Seems to me like you should be in a position where you can start buying back some of those shares. Where you can start buying back some of those shares.

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Okay, well that's how I made this spoke a moment ago. I'm not sure if I said 60 million per month. I meant 60 million for a quarter. But again, that would be the gross amount at the retail level.

So, a past couple of conferences call, there seems to be a continuous disconnect between the stock prices.

a conference call there seems to be a continuous disconnect between Kennedy's stock price and the reality.

And I don't know, it just seems like the same question each time, if we're going to do anything about trying to increase the exposure, all we've done is we've actually gained and lost a couple of analysts during that time. And for us to be sitting here, trading at a 35% discount to cash with no jet, at $200, the second compatible price.

Cash even went up this past quarter, as you said, $232 million in cash and $180 million market cap. It just seems like we get the same question every time. Well, we know we must do better in trying to find analysts for the company.

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It just never seems to happen. So my feeling is that we've got to do something. I mean, you have blue shirt that's been getting paid for four or five years now. And all that's happened to the stocks gone down since then. What are they getting paid for? I mean, they supposedly have a great reputation in the world. I mean, they supposedly have a great reputation in the world.

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production companies, they will just, in order to occupy the market shares, they will sell with loss. Each car they sell, they may have a deficit or loss with a few tens of thousands RMB. It just doesn't make sense to us. Well for them, they may have spent over billions of US dollars to burn and to take up the market occupancy in China market. However, with the cash we have...

over a million or, you know, a sort of cash, it's definitely not enough to compete with those companies. So we can only wait until when the market becomes more healthy in a more orderly manner, then we can go in and expand ourselves on the production scale. Definitely, that's our plan, but at the moment, it will be unwise or doesn't make quite much sense to do so.

just to put in the money for no reason. So we'd rather be more conservative and wait until there's a better timing for us to expand the sales production. All right, well anyway, okay, so based on the now reported first half, and the balance of the golf cartel, order talked about in the 10Q and some comments you just made, it looks like Candy could actually have its best year ever, based on both business and financial condition, this quarter, I mean, this year.

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The one press release was way back in January 10th and had really had nothing to do with golf carts.

So is this just going to be a new policy? Are you going to start putting out press releases again?

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to have to share this day with us to encounter such a drastic period. Hopefully we can enjoy the fruitfulness result in the future.

Okay, just a couple of quick ones now. I'm sure Mr. Who's not happy with what he's saying. He and I go back together all the way to 2008 when his company started. In that year, he had I think 13.5 million shares of stock. At the peak, it was probably worth, I don't know, $65, $70 million. You look at the stock he has today, he has more stock. I know he's paid $5 million for the stock he's already bought. He's got more stock. At today's price, it's probably worth closer to $25 or $30 million. So he can't be happy with it.

But he hasn't done in my opinion, that's why I feel frustrated. He's done a great job keeping us alive and well and safe and yeah, he just gave people an opportunity to buy the most undervalued stock in the world. It's certainly not going to go out of business. Maybe in this market, that's a great deal. But getting off that bandwagon, I just got a couple of last questions here.

How much of an effect does the China tariff have on Candy's golf cart, electric bikes, power sports, and off-road business? And does the company anticipate a lifting of US restrictions on these?

And one last piece with it. Next to golf carts, how much are the NEV and electric bikes expected to contribute to this year's revenues?

And does management have an estimate for total sales in the off-road business this year?

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First of all, about the questions for the tariff, there's no such tariff from China imposed to our export, because there's only rebate, but then there's no tax tariff charge on our exporter. For the shipping to the US, the US government, they charge 10% tariff of all the import. So in...

under the existing conditions, our sales price in the US market is determined according to the existing tariff tax rate. If there is any future adjustment down the road, our sales price will also be adjusted accordingly. So basically, there is no such significant impact to the company's revenue upon the change or adjustment of the tariff tax rate. And...

And then the second question about our sales forecast. Well, because of the significant impact, you know, from the resurgence of the COVID, the lockdown, as well as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the whole market is uncertain. Definitely, there will be an increase of golf cart in this year, but for the sales out in the golf cart, the ATVs, we expect the sales to be similar to the level of 2021.

That's our explanation. Okay.

Well, that'd be fine. Anyway, well, we'll just see what happens next quarter, but it sure seems to me like this could be a record year for the company, and it may be a record year for a low price as well as a stock, which is a great opportunity for those who are smart enough to take advantage of it, but hey, to each its own. Thank you very much, and great job coming up with this new product line. It looks like it's going to be huge in the U.S. from what we've seen with all the dealers that have been added on recently.

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The main reason that we have not offered our full-speed EV product in the US is because that we have not set the critical requirements of the airbags safety requirements standard by the US DOT. As a matter of fact, there is none, no one of the China-based EV products has fulfilled such a requirement has been offered in the US market.

such a written or oral documents or agreement to pull Hibiscus to do so. But we're just taking on doing the right way to make sure that first we can't support your subs, then we can over the...

The full speed EV is in the US market. We just take it by, you know, by, um, by, um, the correct order. The full speed EV is in the US market.

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Okay, very good. My final question, why has Candy not to be voted whatever resources are needed?

to quickly design and incorporate the needed airbag changes.

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due to the high gasoline prices and the climate change issues.

It seems to me that this is not brand new technology. Dina has some of the best engineers in the world.

Why haven't we devoted whatever resources we have to to getting this done? And that's my final question. Thank you. Thank you.

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So, thanks for your concern and suggestions. As we mentioned in the post question,

The requirements of the ABAC safety stand, it is much higher than those in China and even EU. Because well, in China and EU, basically we have similar standards. But in US, we have two tackle different issues, such as the for different size of the passengers, the drivers, and then there is not just a matter of one single company being able to tackle. It's rather the whole industrial skillset level.

for the whole country that would work together to tackle such issue. So at the moment we are trying very hard to do so, but I guess we have to wait until the whole standard being boosted in terms of the country level in China.

So, but that would refer better to improve those timeline can determine at the moment. Meantime, we will focus on the NEV market and the sales in the US and in the second half of the year, we will launch more different models on the NEV to you.

improve our market occupancy in the US market. So I'll focus now on the FIFF, but that will work on the 50th requirement in the meantime.

I understand what you're saying. It just seems that this is all a technology at this point. It just seems that this is all a technology at this point.

and it should not be all that difficult to achieve considering the resources that are in China with the engineers and the fact that other...

Companies are manufacturing electric vehicles. I'm sorry, gasoline vehicles in China and seem to have solved the airbag issue for export to the US in their manufacturing plants. But no reason to you to comment on that. Thank you very much.

are manufacturing electric vehicles, I'm sorry, gasoline vehicles in China and seem to have solved the airbag issue, breaks port to the U.S. in their manufacturing plants, but no reason for you to comment on that. Thank you very much. Thank you for your time.

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So thanks again for your question and your concern but I guess we don't think there's anyone even the gasoline vehicle has been sold by the China companies to US market yet. So basically that applies to all the automotives from China based companies.

Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, better than fortunate, we all have time to have questions. And I'd like to hand back to Kiwa Lua for some closing comments.

Thank you again for attending today's conference call. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact us via e-mail or our BlueShirt IR company. We look forward to updating you on our next earnings call in November . This concludes our call for today. You may now all disconnect. Thank you..

for attending to this conference call. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact us via email or our blue shirt, IR company. We look forward to updating you on our next earnings call in November . This concludes our call for today. You'll be now all disconnect. Thank you, bye bye. Bye.

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