Q2 2022 Tremor International Ltd Earnings Call
Welcome to the trauma internationals second quarter and six months ended June 30th 2022 conference call. At this time participants are in a listen only mode with the question and answer session to follow at the end of the presentation. This conference call is being recorded and a replay of today's call will be made available on the Investor Relations section.
Tremors website and will remain posted there the next 30 days.
I'll now hand over to Billy Eckert Senior director of Investor Relations for introductions and the reading of the Safe Harbor statement. Please go ahead.
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Thank you operator, good morning, everyone and welcome to Tremor Internationals second quarter and six months ended June 30th 2022 earnings call.
On today's call are over drinker, tremors, Chief Executive Officer, and Seguin here, He's the company's Chief Financial Officer.
This morning, we issued a press release, which you can access on our website at investors that tremor International Dot com.
During today's conference call, we will make forward looking statements.
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We advise caution and reliance on forward looking statements.
These statements include without limitation statements and projections about our future anticipated financial results, including discussions about our revenue margin expenses and guidance for full year, 2022, and full year 2023 and future business.
Dissipated benefits of tremors current and future potential strategic transactions product waters and commercial partnerships manner.
Management's belief that tremor is well positioned to benefit from future anticipated industry growth trends and company specific catalysts.
Anticipated continued and accelerated future growth in both U S and international markets.
The strengthening of tremors products and reach.
<unk> ability to continue repurchasing shares or investing in technology sales and marketing and evaluating strategic opportunities to acquire companies.
The potential negative impacts of inflationary pressures rising interest rates geopolitical and macroeconomic uncertainties recession concerns and widespread global supply chain issues forward looking industry and economic statements networks and other statements concerning the expected development performance and market share or competitive performance relating to our products or services.
All forward looking statements are based on information available to us as of the date of this call.
These statements involve known and unknown risks uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those implied by these forward looking statements, including unexpected changes in our business.
More detailed information about these risk factors and additional risk factors are set forth in our filings with the U S Securities and exchange Commission, including but not limited to those risks and uncertainties listed in the section entitled Risk factors in our most recent annual report on form 20-F.
<unk> does not intend to update or alter its forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information future events or otherwise except as required by law.
Additionally, the company's press release and management's statements. During this conference call will include discussions of certain measures and financial information and I FRS and non Ifr S. Terms, we refer you to the company's press release for additional details, including definitions of non <unk> items and reconciliations of <unk> results.
At this time it is my pleasure to introduce Overdrew Kurt.
Oh of Tremor International over please go ahead.
Thank you Amy and welcome to everyone joining us today I will begin by providing an overview.
And strategy, followed by our Chief Financial Officer, Gili will review, our Q2 and H, one 2022 financials.
We'll then open the call up for questions.
During the second quarter general experience increase customer adoption and delivered record profitability alongside the cheapening and aggressive industry, leading adjusted EBITDA margins.
5%.
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Kevin.
Although the durable data driven as you anticipated.
And this platform is continuing to drive strong and resilient.
Julian.
<unk> executed on our long term strategy.
Looking at the market environment.
Guys in the industry.
Several global headwinds in Q2, but we are.
We continue to see macroeconomic uncertainty and recession concerns.
We of course remains for the duration of the challenge associated with inflation rising interest rate supply chain constraints in certain sectors.
Such as automotive due to continued cheap ultra juice and their ongoing rolling Craig it's been well publicized and I'll check into our planning for the remainder of subject.
While the positive note. However, we are seeing the initial signs of recovery.
The soldiers, Sean Chen Sasha Danny CPG and continue to believe we will see benefits from the FIFA World Cup and U S election cycle.
We remain confident.
Understood by customers and revenue.
Our robust operating model.
Well to successfully navigate through these market challenges, while continuing to invest to future differentiation.
Our platform.
Since the beginning of 2022 we achieved several important milestones to drive long term value for customers to choose and reinforce our position in the market over the coming years.
First we increased our video reach and so can you check the police strengthened and expanded our platform capabilities through several other initiatives, including the completed integration of our CTV ad servers.
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We further strengthened our CPD assets by extending our exclusive global ACI agreements, while gaming ad monetization.
Key markets, such as the U S U K, Canada and Australia.
In addition to spending all pushes Jordan investments.
What we believe to be a rapidly growing global operating system. We also built a strong relationship.
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And strong strategic partnership with Vida Nics enable powerful division.
And high quality content opportunities.
You can read around exclusive content for all costs for example.
Sponsor this year's FIFA World Cup and we are also sponsor an exclusive data show trials.
It was also recently announced that FIFA.
We launched <unk> enabled smart Tvs this.
This is the first major one example of how are you going to still keep that though.
Monetization in CTV media partnerships with an operating system and strong relationship with a major global Oems can benefit channel. It's Brandon agencies, we look to leverage our regular size of this highly desirable.
<unk>.
We took steps to dramatically scale.
And further diversify our offering and ability to serve customers through our pending acquisition of them.
Acquisition is expected to significantly grow our global markets expand our self service.
Technology and performance capabilities and that's critical.
This newly FTE capabilities allow us to better serve more success with GE.
As we continue to see.
Conversion, we paid the linear and digital was the acquisition will also enable us to offer all our specialized CTD products.
Such as PV intelligence across the significantly wider customer base, creating additional revenue opportunities. Following the anticipated closing and integration of the proposed acquisition of <unk>, we expect to generate contribution exit of its.
Approximately $500 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately 200 million daus.
On a combined pro forma basis for the full year of 2020, we believe our proven track record of successfully and efficiently integrating acquisition will enable us to smoothly integrate and create a strong combined seasons.
Finally, we were also able to repurchase under our previously announced share repurchase program, a sizeable number of shares at attractive prices our ability to achieve these milestones while generating strong results.
Challenging operating environments and solidify the completions, if yes in our long term prospects.
Directly from the benefits derived from operating incidents.
Our model provides several advantages, including strategically for customers beneficial position for changes in data privacy regulation better installation against challenging market condition, and the ability to maximize revenue streams and profitability our ability to service across all screens.
Regardless of service level requirements.
Us to maximize revenue opportunities.
Deep relationships.
And trust with our customers our operating model allow us to generate extremely attractive margins and profit, while enabling customers to achieve data and we can buy.
She's particularly when they leverage our platform initiatives.
Our platform also contains a significant and growing footprint of first and third party data.
As heating oil exposure to cookies, and our DSP and SSP showed the same audience swaps to alleviate that follows jewelry cookie syncs with February sure we've made well insulated against recent changes.
Our decision to intentionally deals.
At the end to end platform was the correct one as we continue to see competitors attempt to replicate the elements of our well established.
As our competitive both of newly operating excellence lots of focus on many of nuances engaging with both sides of the ecosystem treble its well established expertise as well as relationships with brands agencies media partners and data providers.
Focusing on its next leg of growth and differentiation.
On July 26, we entered into a definitive agreement to acquire <unk>.
For a total consideration of $239 million subject to certain customary adjustments.
Turning to satisfy the purchase price using a combination of existing cash resources and new debt facility, we expect to obtain to closing the transaction the acquisition, which we expect to close later in the third quarter.
Expected to significantly increase our global market share and create one of the most compelling and sell CPE and video end to end platform in the markets.
The acquisition also significantly enhance our technology and business footprint across self service DSP performance CPG and.
While adding new insight tools and media.
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The transaction also where do you expect the Mou with initial pilot footprint market presence and customer switch them over 500, plus global customers seeking fortune 500 brands and multinational agencies and the company maintain strong relationships with some of the world's leading media partners.
For the 12 months ended in June 32000 to 80 to a multi generated preliminary analgesic contribution X day.
Approximately $160 million, which was there meaningful impact on general financial scale. We also expect to benefit post integration from significant operating cost synergies. We initially to expect to achieve annual run rate operating cost synergies of approximately $50 million.
The combined pro forma basis.
Closing and following the completion of the integration.
Following the anticipated closing and integration of the proposed acquisition of from what we.
We expect to generate extra.
The approximately $500 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $200 million for full year 2020 on a combined pro forma basis.
They represent our largest acquisition to date and delivered on our commitment to execute meaningful and strategic M&A.
Look at where valuations are increased.
We remain confident that we have the expertise necessary to quickly integrate the company into our business and generate significant benefits for our customers and shareholders.
In June we also dispense with VEBA to a strategic agreement to invest $25 million.
The first is to offer several key advantages to chime in.
It doesn't extend that for multiple years, the exclusive agreement to share with you the global ACI for global measurement and targeting purposes to grow solid platform. It's also allow us to offer additional benefits and advertising opportunities to our customers, we must leverage the investment to support this plan.
Increased distribution across additional Oems, we also expect that Thats, a fair to become even more desirable and procurement to benefit further to this group as well. Additionally, after initially being designated a heat up to a third global monetization platform January we thought just granted.
Wally and spirit exclusivity for monetization in the U S UK, Canada and Australia. This is really a combination of fixed facility through shared global ACL about them and the exclusive ability to enable AD monetization in several key markets.
For future growth with applications for drilling.
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The operating system is an official sponsor of the FIFA World Cup set to take place in Qatar in November early December .
In addition to expecting guidance to achieve a substantial increased global awareness during the FIFA.
Please go class will also launch a licensee that enabled devices.
Since he is also the lead sponsor for an exclusive daily show throughout the World stops featuring highlights for the merchant and light reaction.
The previous exclusive monetization platform in key markets brands and agencies look to utilize annuity to advertise on this desirable and exclusive content, which provides strong potential revenue synergies and leverage trends.
<unk> seem to be that Brazil, future sports sponsorships and exclusive content opportunities channel is well positioned to significantly benefit from its recent investments.
Outside of our company specific catalysts travel remains well positioned to capitalize on expected industry daily Edwin <unk> video continues to grow at the fastest rate.
And the vast majority of our platform contribution ex Tac.
Derived from these four months. Additionally, we continue to expect meaningful growth within <unk> over the next several years as evidenced by several other streaming services currently launching it supported channels and tears and others showing interest to do so.
This further reinforces the ability and long term health of this.
CPE market and we believe our strong footholds in the fastest growing sub segment of digital advertising position us well for future growth and market share gains. We believe the fourth quarter will be further enhanced by the <unk> workshop.
Trimble will experience added benefit through ice institution donor Mitch sponsorship. We also expect <unk> later this year from the U S midterm elections bucket, which typically engage patients levels of CTV and video AD spending from candidate CBE to damage.
Since our last earnings call, we have continued to generate further business momentum alongside industry.
Industry recognition.
Our SSP unwilling added 53, new supplier partners Q2 2020.
Including 35 in the U S and 115, new supply partners.
<unk> 71 in the U S. During <unk> 2022.
Both critical process, because in sports viewers and Sustainment and lifestyles.
OTC FX from leading.
Businesses. We also continued to generate strong adoption within our self service platform for publishers on the whole.
We control, which experienced a five out of the 60% increase in spend during Q2 2022 vessels Q2, 2021 and set a obviously a 50% increase in H 122 vessels H, one and 2021.
Additionally, <unk> added 60, new advertisers signed during Q2, 2022, and 135, new exercise of Science June one 2022 of course travel CPG and retail verticals as revenues on this Julie in our credit facility will continue to impress and create over 13 times.
More.
Unique video ads in Q2 2022 than in Q2, 2021, and over 15 times more releases.
1022, then H, one and 2021, we are continuing to see strong customer adoption across our data driven creative products robust international growth and a significant increase in demand for our creative services across travel and retail verticals.
Finally during the <unk>.
Second quarter Legislative relief purchased $5 million 716960 ordinary shares at an average price of $452 six banks.
Total Q2 repurchase investment of approximately $25 9 million pounds or $32 5 million homes.
March one 2022, when we launched the repurchase program through June 32022, we repurchased $7 million 401470, <unk> ordinary shares at an average price of 470 998.
Reflecting a total investment of approximately $35 6 million pounds or $45 $3 million our.
<unk> to repurchase shares.
We believe.
Discounted levels to drive long term shareholder value. In addition to our other ongoing growth initiatives with restatement to our continued balance sheet strength and cash generating abilities.
Now my pleasure to turn the call to <unk> to review the financial results.
Thank you all fir, we were excited to see a number of record second quarter and age one of profitability expanded margin resilience revenue and excellent business momentum.
Today I will review highlights of our Q2 and age one 2022 performance as well as some of key financial and operational drivers for the quarter and first half.
For the three months ended June 32022, we generated contribution ex Tac of 70 point.
$8 million compared to $73 7 million in Q2 2021.
Alongside record Q2, adjusted EBITDA of $39 1 million.
Compared to $37 $3 million in Q2, 2021, which reflected 5% year over year growth.
This performance was particularly impressive given the well known macro pressure that challenge advertisers spending during the quarter and first half.
We believe CTV and video remain core future growth drivers for tremor and CTV spend on our platform was $64 7 million. During Q2 2022 compared to $49 8 million during Q2, 2021, which represented a record for Q2 and strong.
Year over year growth of 30%.
We believe we are well positioned to achieve future growth in this segment as more business is increasingly being transacted through programmatic platform as we expect performance budget to continue to move towards CTV and programmatic in the future.
We also believe the pending acquisition of <unk> the agreement to strategically invest in visa and the recent integration of spirit will help accelerate our growth and footprint within CTV.
During Q2, 2022, and four age one 2022 as well video, including CTV continued to reflect an overwhelming majority of our total contribution ex Tac at approximately 80%.
We also generated a record Q2, adjusted EBITDA margin of 52% on a reported revenue basis and 55% on a net revenue basis.
Which we believe favor expanded our imagine lead within the industry.
Our continued ability to achieve such strong profitability highlights the durability efficiency and sustainability of our end to end model.
We were able to generate these expanded margin while continuing to invest in critical initiative to drive future growth and differentiation within our platform.
For the six months ended June 32022, we generated contribution ex Tac of 141 $8 million.
Compared to $136 7 million over the same prior year period.
Over the same period CTV spend was $110 9 million.
Compared to $88 million during age 102021.
It's reflected in age one record and a 26% year over year increase.
During age one 2020 to CTV spend reflected 36% of total thin and 41% of programmatic spend.
We also generated record adjusted EBITDA of $72 $7 million during <unk> 2022, which represented 12% growth from the $64 8 million.
Adjusted EBITDA, we generated in the same prior year period.
We generated a record age one adjusted EBITDA margin of 46% on a reported revenue basis and 51% on a net revenue basis over the first six months of 2022, which we believe represented best in class across ethics.
Turning to our cash flow, we generated net cash from operating activities of $34 million for Q2, 2022 vessel $57 5 million in Q2 2021.
For the six months ended June 32022, we generated net cash from operating activities of $46 5 million vest.
Versus $76 8 million in the six months ended June 32021.
As of June 30.
We had $361 4 million cash and cash equivalents with no debt.
However, we expect to obtain new $150 million debt facility comprised of a secured term loan and a revolving credit facility.
Actually fund our acquisition of <unk> and to support future strategic investment and initiatives alongside our existing surplus cash resources.
We also experienced 98% free cash flow conversion during Q2, 2022, and 99% free cash flow conversion for <unk> 2022.
Non <unk> diluted earnings per ordinary share.
<unk> for Q2 2022 versus 23 in Q2, 2021 and 31 for the six months ended June 32022 versus.
35.
For the six months ended June 32021.
Finally, I'll turn now to our outlook.
For full year 2022, we expect contribution ex Tac.
<unk> $290 million.
And full year 2022, adjusted EBITDA of approximately $155 million.
Excluding any impact from our pending acquisition of <unk>, which we expect to close later in Q3.
This guidance considers challenging market condition that limited advertiser activity in Q2, including inflationary pressure.
Rising interest rates.
Joe political and macroeconomic uncertainty recession concern and global supply chain issues with the expectation that these challenges could continue to impact the advertising demand environment for the remainder of 2022 and beyond.
For Q3, we feel various macroeconomic headwinds will continue to impact our contribution ex that.
However, we believe our recent achievements such as our pending acquisition of our model and our proposed investment in data, which we expect to achieve further benefits around the upcoming FIFA World Cup will begin to positively impact the business and our results during the fourth quarter and beyond.
Parameters efficient end to end operating model enabled strong fundamentals and our continued focus and emphasis on generating strong profitability gives us confidence that we can continue to generate high profitability and adjusted EBITDA margin for the reminder of the year.
Amid a challenging growth environment.
We believe this critical emphasis on generating strong profitability is even more important in the current market environment and to drive our ability to continue innovating and growing the business organically, while having the necessary capital to evaluate value added future potential acquisition and investment opportunities look.
<unk> ahead, we will also be working hard to quickly integrate amobi upon the close of the acquisition to enhance and expand our platforms capabilities for customers and expand our reach and scale, while seeking to achieve meaningful operating cost synergies for <unk> and its shareholders.
We initially expect to achieve annual run rate operating cost synergies of approximately $50 million on a combined pro forma basis, both clothing and following completion of the integration.
Following the anticipated closing and integration of the proposed acquisition of <unk>, we expect to generate compete contribution ex Tac of approximately $500 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $200 million on.
On a combined pro forma basis for full year 2023.
We believe the strength and efficiency of our model. The recent investment we've made to enhance depreciate and scale the business our focus on CTV video and data and our continued and consistent ability to generate high levels of cash and profitability.
<unk>.
Well, both take advantage of future growth catalysts and succeeding current market condition.
With my remark completed I'll turn the call back to offer.
Thank you.
<unk> has done an exceptional job managing the business through current conditions, while continuing to execute on our long term strategic vision since the beginning of 2022, we took several important steps to enhance and expand the reach and capabilities of our platform to position ourselves strongly for the future.
Our end to end model continues to allow us to best serve our customers domestic routes. It has also provided the necessary capital to drive significant scale.
Business through our pending acquisition of <unk> and significantly differentiates our offering through our strategic investments in vivo.
We believe the increased scale and capabilities that are multi will profile position us well to continue increasing our global market share and presence in the digital advertising space.
Opened the doors to access new customers as well as cross selling and partnership opportunities.
Our strategic investment in data and relationship with IBM.
He is a potential game changer, but it could be significantly impactful for our business.
Mutually aligned with the rapidly growing global policy, extending mature industry operating system and smart TV Oems ecosystem is a powerful differentiator in SaaS.
However, when you couple that with our exclusive global access to readout acos that we share across all platforms.
<unk> in key markets to monetize as well.
<unk> content.
<unk> sport content and strong relationships with major global Oems, we feel that this is a very special potential growth.
Several company specific and industry related company end to end technology and business model robust profitability best in class margins and a strong liquidity position the company well to succeed in the current environment and for future growth and market share expansion.
We continue to remain excited about our growth prospects and positioning within the industry and to drive continued value for our customers and shareholders.
Operator, we will now open the call to investor questions.
As a reminder to ask a question press star one on your telephone keypad, if you'd like to be.
South from the queue Press Star one again.
Your first question is from the line of Laura Martin with Needham.
Good morning, Yeah, I have a couple I have a couple of questions.
First of all I'm very interested in it.
So your results in Q2 were pretty much in line with other.
Dst's other than of course trade desk, which was much higher my question is excluding acquisition.
What do you think the long term secular growth ranges of your top line excluding acquisitions.
So do you want to take this one.
Hi, Noah.
Hi.
Thanks for the question, Yes, I will take so I think that's it really depends on when the macroeconomics and the environment.
We go we've proven in the past that we know how to you know to grow our business very fast.
And in large scale, while macroeconomics parameters are in play.
Having said that in <unk>.
Anticipating anything going forward with it.
We have all the macroeconomic parameters I think that it will be double figure and it can be somewhere between I don't know 12% to 16%. This is what we are.
Anticipating on a on a regular macroeconomics.
<unk>.
Okay. So Todd just 16% top line growth, excluding acquisitions and in a normalized environment and at that 50% EBITDA rate is near normalized.
Okay. That's super helpful trying to value this company and the other thing is one of the things that you said is that you added a lot of sell side capacity.
In this particular period.
And so and I'm just curious as to if.
Demand is soft right now.
Like how is adding sounds like capacity it doesn't that just hurt the price in the auction if we're adding a lot of sell side capacity, but demanded doesn't that actually.
Put more.
Hello.
But again by the end of the spend once you ask well what can you repeat it maybe the line is good.
Yeah I thought you said you added a lot of sell side capacity in the quarter.
Yes, so doesn't that hurt your auctions more because you have soft demand because of macro. So if you add a lot of sell side that adds a lot of units available for sale. So doesn't that put even more pressure downward on your average price now or no.
No no because I will explain.
First of all what we are usually doing enhancing and growing we decide all the time in order to because people know the advertisers and our partners are looking every time for different audiences.
Capabilities that we can offer them through the data and uses usage of our platform.
So.
We are not offering any commitments to the provinces.
Connected to our platform and we are enabling our clients to basically reach bigger audiences and.
More diverse audiences through this grow to forward sales site partners basically that are connected to our platform.
So it's not putting pressure on pricing and it's not.
Putting more pressure on our sales of course.
That was clear.
Perfect. That's great. Okay. Thanks, very much guys. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you Bill.
Your next question is from the line of Matt Swanson with RBC capital markets.
Yes, thanks, good morning, guys.
Siggi, maybe picking up where you left off on your prepared remarks and thinking about guidance. You noted all the headwinds that we see they are pretty much in the news on daily basis, but you also have the company's specific tailwind from the second half with spear at World Cup political.
Could you just give us a little more color on maybe how youre thinking about balancing the tailwind could headwinds and then where you may be building in some conservatism into that guidance for the second half.
Yeah.
I think it's a great question Arthur do you want to take it.
Again, Ken I didn't understand the question, so I would love to hear it again.
Yeah, I was just saying that there's obviously a lot of macro headwinds in the second half of the year, but there is company specific tailwind that we've been talking about for a while with the spearhead World Cup political so just kind of how youre thinking about balancing those two things and then maybe just give us a sense for the level of <unk>.
Services that you guys are building given that background.
Of course, thank you. Thank you for repeating the question. So we worked very hard in the past even flow through email on all these initiatives like the <unk>, which is the ACO.
To be effective in the second half of the year.
And we took it even further and we announced the capabilities that we are offering to the market by cooperating even deeply with visa and license around.
About content that is unique and high quality like the free surplus.
Going to be distributed in exclusivity on <unk> basically.
<unk>.
We feel and also the data show that <unk>.
<unk> created that will give more color on the games and so on and as we know FIFA and the World Cup in soccer is a major opening soon in this in the sport events and people really of course, the billions of fence waiting for these gains to start.
And that's why basically we believe that with all this.
We are in the markets, where it was a very strong tailwind, which is the ACO that the <unk> and the basically the content opportunities that we built.
And we are also encouraged by the fact that we do.
First proof of concept that we got we got basically about <unk> and <unk>.
The partnership with the data around FIFA, plus and the World Cup, which is of course, a very major events and it will give us like a very strong opportunity to generate additional revenues in the fourth quarter.
But we are trying to and we also didn't included them, albeit that we have high confidence that this deal will be will be closed in the third quarter.
Didn't.
Okay.
I'll try to give like a full picture about the year as a standalone so that to the market in order to remove uncertainty and to give more clarity about it.
We are conservative in this.
In general because we feel that there is a lot of uncertainty and headwinds in the market and we need to be aware of them and we take them into consideration and as we had mentioned also in opioids. We believe that these headwinds in this microeconomics will not ended at the end of the third quarter, but William probably the end of the deal per deal, we'll even we'll move it.
Through 2023 months or so.
I hope that answered your question, but I tell you that in general.
We see a lot of.
A lot of tailwind that can be supported by our hard work that we've done and I think that the.
And I think that basically we are trying to balance it with the headwinds that we are trading in the market and we gave that guidance.
Our focus for the full year for this reason in order to be transparent and to show.
What we feel is the status of the business and team member view.
Yes.
That's really helpful and then flipping to maybe a more positive macro narrowed ofer you mentioned all of the companies that are switching to <unk> right now.
And maybe thinking about what your expectations are in the next year or two as this kind of lot of premium content comes to CTV and what do you think the impact is on the market advertisers publishers when all of a sudden we see a two to three X times the amount of content to streaming.
Okay, I think that.
I think that it's just show that CTV is here to stay and it's growing and it's becoming like a main cellular for bone and advertisers central.
That wants to reach their audiences no matter.
And on which platform right now, but I think that would just show that.
The center that this CTV is taking us in the market and we are all as you can see also by our results we are growing those abilities.
We are very quality products that we are basically pushing in the markets. We are offering in the market and we have two vehicles for this content that we are now.
And as I mentioned, we are glad that the stress test and the proceeds with FIFA plus basically our ability to work together with the highest since in order to monetize this opportunity I believe that is with all these opportunities that are opening day.
Creates more curiosity and more activity among the advertisers to test CTV to run their campaigns on CTV also in order to reach the clients and potential clients and I think that it will.
We'll grow the market and will make it more.
And more efficient in the future. So I look at that in a positive manner in the <unk>.
So when you have like so much so much supply coming to the market. It's also connected to it.
What we say the market is of course, this can affect pricing and it's been effective.
Ability of publishers to sell all their media and so on but I think that what we've seen in the markets right. Now is just the beginning of more and more companies choosing to work with Dave audience and delivering this modem, which is great for a company like us of course, that's what we are selling and Thats, what we are offering to the market.
Alright. Thank you I appreciate the time.
Okay. Thank you.
Your next question is from the line of Mike Kelly with stifle.
Hey, great. Thanks very much.
Wanted to ask you about the 'twenty three guide.
That you put out there should we assume that <unk> revenue is roughly $150 million I know you in the past you've said that that was.
Flattish year over year is that the right way to think about it for 2003.
And if so that would imply the core tremor business excluding <unk>.
A little over 20%.
Is that the right way to think about it or is the right way to think about it.
Using that 12% to 16% growth that you talked about.
Yes.
The right way to think about mobius impact in 2002. Thank you.
Our I will take this question. So first of all when we are acquiring when we are requiring the company we are.
Moving very quickly in order to integrate the company into our business, we are not keeping silos and we're not keeping these different business units, we are creating one company and we think that we also.
This is part of our promise in the way that we are working basically to create.
One company with.
With the acquisition that we are making and that's what we did in the past and Thats. What we are planning to do of course with MLB. So I'll say, we made after the closing we will basically mix and connected things and we will not keep.
Keep it as the silos, but in general when you look at that we said that proximity 500 chameleon because we as we mentioned we said that we will grow between 2012 grew 16%. We said that the <unk> last year was about 115 and I tell you that.
We kept a conservative basically when we gave these numbers.
And which are very impressive is there it goes to reach $500 million and net revenues of $200 million of EBITDA. It's a major event and it's a very big statement in this industry.
Like right now.
Okay. Thank you and then structurally should should that the MLB business.
Also grow in line with that.
Call it low teens low to mid teens.
That you suggested for the corn sugar business.
We are not talking about the different units and again, what we are going to do after after closing is to connect the businesses. So basically we will we will create like the.
Our business units.
Part of the full company, but they are connected so we will not be able to measure. It we did it in the past with unworthy. We did this we created one and we're planning to do that.
Sticking with the movie.
Okay, great. Thanks, and just to add to that Mark I think that you know.
Amongst the less profitable company then.
Then tremor, so first of all as aforementioned we are moving fast to take us some time in the in the first 12 months in order to get into the right play.
Secondly, they are only one sided so we will do our best in order to make them part of our ecosystem and enjoying the end to end.
Wilson.
And as I mentioned, we're not measure we would not measure anymore.
<unk> solar and tremor solar is going to be one.
One ecosystem and one in one reporting.
Okay makes sense and then maybe just one quick one on <unk>.
Where youre seeing the softness you did a nice job talking about.
The macro stuff, but I guess in terms of your products in particular like are you seeing.
More softness on the supply side versus the demand side I guess when people are using your tech.
Is any one.
Type of customer are softer than the others.
So of course everything starts with the demand so I think that in general the demand if youre looking at sell in but we're looking at the demand side that is weekends.
Weakening the ecosystem, but it's across the system, meaning that when the demand is low of course, it's affecting the <unk>.
The revenue of the business is generating.
Okay makes sense, thanks very much.
Yes.
Your next question is from the line of Andrew Marc.
Raymond James.
Hi, Thanks for taking my questions I wanted to drill down a little bit more quantitatively on that second half guidance and try to get a sense on the scale of your assumptions for contributions from the inorganic events like the World Cup and political advertising in the back half of the year and then have a follow up after.
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Yes.
Not true.
Thank you.
Exactly what will be the FIFA World Cup.
Revenue generating and because we are not measuring that and you are calling it like nonorganic, but it will become.
Yes.
Almost every new there's a major to internet and <unk> Vida are very heavily invested in exclusive sports content, which we will monetize in the future as well.
Uh huh.
I think that that's the dancer unless you want to add something.
Well I think thats its part of the business that we are doing this is it's an organic growth. We worked on that sold out in order to build that with the investments and partnership that we created with <unk> and.
And we are proud of that.
It's the first time that we are launching and events like that.
Able to sell and monetize these type of content in their markets and we're waiting to see but we of course believe that it will be very meaningful because we believe that the opportunity is really interesting for advertising advertisers and we see the first impression.
These phones are fragile and it's very positive. So we are now continuing to build offering and to grow out today advertisers and basically start to to get the deals signed.
Okay. Thank you and then in the second quarter can you point to anything specific as to why EBIT.
EBITDA margins were higher than than kind of trend higher than expected.
Was there anything in any of the specific expense line that was worth calling out. Thank you.
I think that once we do that.
So you would take your test sorry.
Sure.
Yes, I think it's.
It's a combination of different initiative that we took during <unk>.
At the end of Q1 already when we saw the headwinds on the macroeconomic situation. So of course, we close them.
Open positions some indirect costs that are revenue related of course to wind down.
We went and make extra efficiency on our debt and all things.
Coastline.
Some.
Renegotiations with some of our vendors.
And of course, we put like a hold on T&D and professional services and offer so I think all of that contributed to this like extraordinarily.
The EBITDA margin in Q2.
Okay. Thank you.
Okay.
Okay.
Your final question comes from the line of Andrew Boone with JMP Securities.
Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions can we start with just helping to better understand the <unk> is there a way that you can help us understand kind of the first half of what <unk> seen so July and August to date, as we think about kind of this quarter.
Yes.
When we are giving like.
We are assessing and we are providing you like.
And numbers that are below consensus of course, it's not it's not according to our plan since it was a clothing 12 transfer should we didn't give any deferred assessment and we didnt get these numbers. So we feel the weakness in the market that is coming from across the board from an auto trader advisers and partners that we have and Thats why we basically.
Rested on our forecast.
Okay. Thanks.
And then kind of playing off of the last question that just got asked can you talk about the impact of FX on the model, where there any topline kind of headwinds that you guys can call out there understood. It's mostly a U S business, but then additionally on the cost side is there also a benefit from ex FX that you guys are seeing on the cost side of the business.
Okay. Okay.
Yes, mostly.
The vast majority of our revenues are coming from the U S. So we don't see any ethics.
But yeah no benefit.
On the cost side, yes.
No.
When to ups and strengthen.
The last month fluids, why we see some.
Cost savings due to FX.
Not like material or changing the needle, but we did see some.
Cost saving regarding FX effect.
Okay.
Okay. Thanks, and then just my last question is one of the key differentiation pieces and our view is certainly the creative side of the business with truly can you just talk about the drivers of increased use of truly for video ads and then just help us understand what that brings to the rest of the model right is not understood more engagement is just.
Good, but kind of put that help us understand that as we relate that back to excel. Thanks, so much.
Thank you I will take it.
So I think that the.
When we are talking about creative we have to understand that there is a few elements to the importance of liquidity first of all as you indicated is to increase the engagements, but apart from that is to increase the efficiency when you're connecting between creative and.
This is something that we were able to grow the efficiency and the engagement.
One I know for years and close to two years since we basically started because truly is basically after we acquired them.
Released this product and it stayed very good Europe , and we see the growth of all of that and I think that advertisers like it because it basically scoping tools. There goes first of all is to reach the right audiences with the right message and the second one is to basically increase the engagement to that so we see that as a catalyst as a catalyst.
So sales when we are offering this capability to advertisers when compared to other companies.
Yes.
He is doing that I think that we are gaining more attention, we're getting more budgets getting more response from advertisers and say, it's a tool that we really enjoyed using in the market and it's bringing a lot of great results to us and of course due to our clients that are using them.
Thank you.
Okay.
I'll now hand, todays call back over telephone for any closing remarks.
Thank you everyone I think that.
As we said.
We built a very strong foundation for the company and we look at that and we see that we have and lots coming games in the in the months to come but also reduced to come through the through the deals.
And the investment in the acquisition that we are that is still pending but we are feeling confident that it will be closed in the third.
Third quarter, and I think that when we are looking to the future. We are still excited we know that there is headwinds in the market, but you are not building a company for the next quarter Youre building a company for the years to come and we feel that we build the right foundation with the right policy.
And we have the talent that is needed in order to grow our business and to move to forward in full power.
Really excited about it and I think that we proved in the past year.
We are able to fulfill our strategy, meaning increase our CTV awards through the agreement with visa getting exclusivity in major markets like U S U K, Canada and Australia.
And on the CTV on the CTV, guys, which is ACL to get like a global boutique with the agreement with one of the biggest and will spoke full operating system and Oems in the market. The second thing is also to move through disagreements to drive also quality content that can be an interesting business model.
An interesting thing for our clients to be associated with events like <unk> com, which is really powerful and the acquisition that we've done that is fulfilling our strategy that we basically indicated after the.
And do all these things that we've done last June that we are going to keep using dollar.
Our profits and our cash in order to make acquisition that will grow on the demand side and we looked at them will be it's a great opportunity for that we deal size with the right size capability talent technology capabilities more than 500 clients and tools.
Technology capabilities that are in line of what we are doing including linear ltvs that we look at it as a great opportunity in the future because we see that the media LTV in the CTV underpin closer together through better usage of vessel.
So we are excited we are confident about our moves and our strategy.
And we are working hard in order to accelerate our capabilities and becoming Nielson zone.
So thank you very much for joining us today and thank you.
This concludes today's call.
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