Q2 2023 Ooma Inc Earnings Call
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the UMA, Inc. Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2023 Financial Results Call.
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After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again press star 1. Thank you. Matt Robison, you may begin your conference. Thanks, Josh. Good day, everyone, and welcome to the second quarter of Fiscal Year 2023 Earnings Call of UMA, Inc. My name is Matt Robison. I'm the Director of IR and Corporate Development. On the call with me today are IROMIS CEO Eric Stang and CFO Shig Hamamatsu.
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Now, I will hand the call over to UMMA CEO Eric Stang.
Thank you, Matt. Hi, everyone. Welcome to UMA's Q2 Fiscal Year 2023 Earnings Call. Thank you for joining us.
This is an exciting time for UMA and we have a lot to talk about today. My comments will start with a review of our results and major initiatives.
and then address our recent acquisition of Onset, which we are also announcing today.
Q2 FY23 was a strong order for UMA across the board.
Revenue of $52.7 million, non-GAAP net income of $3 million, and EBITDA of $4 million all exceeded expectations.
In addition, our gross margins increased with Q2 Services gross margin at 74% and Q2 total gross margin which includes product sales at 65%.
These results are influenced only modestly by our acquisition of Onset, which occurred very late in Q2 and added less than $300,000 of revenue to the quarter.
Our balance sheet remains strong with cash at $22.5 million and no debt.
After generating $2.2 million of cash from operations in the quarter and also paying to acquire Onset.
Later, when we discuss the ONSIP acquisition, I'll review our plans to regrow our cash going forward.
As you know, we have several initiatives underway to grow UMA business.
For UMA office targeted at smaller sized businesses.
We announced just last quarter the launch of our ProPlus Tier of Service.
Like our Office Pro tier, which came before,
This is a way for UMA Office to appeal to slightly larger sized businesses and to increase our business ARPU.
Close to 50% of our new users in Q2, excluding our growth with our largest customer, signed up for either the Pro or ProPlus tier.
We are now working on the next tranche of several features to add to the ProPlus tier with the goal of launching these additional features this quarter.
Regarding UMA Enterprise, we made progress on several fronts over the last three months.
As planned, we launched modernized versions of our desktop, mobile, and video apps, and of our administrator portal.
We also significantly expanded our sales into the hospitality vertical by closing over 25 new properties.
We secured a particularly large new UMA Enterprise customer in early August who requires a solution that can adapt to their infrastructure which is one of the strengths of UMA Enterprise.
In Q3, we expect to onboard 1000 users with this customer and also to install close to 300 UMA Connect devices, one for each of their locations.
As we've discussed previously, we are now ramping users with our largest customer in both North America and Europe .
We expect this ramp to continue through the balance of this year with the potential to onboard more than the 25,000 additional users we originally planned to add this year.
We also believe that further use of growth with this customer will continue next year.
It's great to see our efforts in full swing now with this customer.
One of our most significant new initiatives, which took hold just this last quarter, is of course UMA Airdial.
Airdial is our integrated solution to replace aging and expensive copper phone lines that serve specialty equipment, such as fire and security panels and elevator phones that are designed to operate with analog lines.
With tens of millions of copper lines now in use in the USA, we believe the market opportunity for airdial is massive.
As planned, we were able to build airdial units in Q2 and begin making sails.
We also engaged with additional strategic partners, including New Horizon Communications and Intelligent Solutions, both of whom separately announced they will start reselling Airdial.
And as expected, we are finding that Airdial opens up relationships with new channel partners, which can also benefit UMA Office and UMA Enterprise.
I'm pleased to report that our backlog of opportunity for Airdial is significant and growing daily as we anticipated.
We've learned since launching AirDial last quarter that, while some customers will install AirDial themselves, others prefer or will require installation assistance.
Accordingly, UMA is partnering with a national organization that provides third-party installation services.
In addition, some customers tell us it is easy for them to take a phased approach, at least initially, rather than replace all their copper lines at once.
We anticipate that these factors will influence the rate of growth for airdial.
We plan to scale internal and external resources over the next couple of quarters to facilitate and accelerate customer onboarding.
Lastly, regarding Airdial, I'm thrilled to report that Airdial was chosen by a panel of eight leading unified communications industry analysts as the best endpoint solution for 2022.
Erdal received this prestigious UC award among a large field of contenders from the publication UC today.
Altogether, UMA Business added 21,000 users in Q2 net of churn.
This is an exciting and a substantial increase from prior quarters.
We expect to maintain this level of user growth in Q3 as we continue to execute on our key strategic priorities.
I would now like to turn to our announcement today that UMA has recently acquired Junction Networks, also known as ONSIP, from Intrado.
ONCIP was founded in 2004 and is
The company provides UCAS services primarily to smaller sized businesses located in the USA.
Entrato purchased OnSip just a couple of years ago as a core asset to enable a broader UC strategy planned at the time.
However, changes in Entrato's strategic direction led to this opportunity for UMA to acquire Onset for $9.75 million in cash.
ONSIP is expected to add a little more than $10 million in annual revenues to UMA and to be accretive starting in Q4 of this year.
Oncep operates its own internally developed UCAS platform that is used today by approximately 5000 customers comprising approximately 50,000 users.
The company provides a high quality and well-respected solution designed primarily for serving smaller sized businesses.
On average, each ONSIP customer is approximately 10 users in size.
Oncept's go-to-market activities span both direct sales and sales through channel partners.
with customer referrals also contributing to growth.
The company's level of customer churn is low, nearly what UMA experiences today.
And OnSip is known for its high touch and helpful customer support.
The company has about 40 employees, many of whom are highly experienced and have been with Onset for at least several years.
In all these respects, Onset represents a solidly performing business that does not require fixing and aligns well with UMA's strategy to be the leader in serving small businesses.
Now obviously...
Just from a purely economic standpoint, this is a highly attractive acquisition for UMA. Amount we are spending in this transaction to acquire new users is substantially less than what we currently spend on average via our existing sales and marketing activities.
We believe this alone makes this transaction a clear win for us.
In addition, we believe we can drive strong profitability at Onset.
We estimate we can increase ONSIP's gross margin to above 70% of revenue.
through synergies we bring based on our scale.
And given the maturity of ONCEP's platform, we do not anticipate unusual or high expenses to operate the business.
As such, our outlook, as mentioned previously, is for Onset to be a creative to UMA starting in Q4 of this year.
Strategically, we approach spending on inorganic growth opportunistically.
In almost all respects,
ONSIP lines up perfectly with our criteria for inorganic growth.
which include a well-performing business that is operating in the segments on which we focus
is of a size that fits with our business and resources, in which can be purchased for an attractive valuation.
Our go-forward plan for ONCEP is to improve the experience for ONCEP users by upgrading them at some point in the future to a more feature-rich solution that takes advantage of capabilities now available in UMA Office.
This will take time to implement to ensure a seamless upgrade process for ONSIP users.
In addition, to accomplish this, we first need to incorporate into UMA Office certain features now only provided by Onset, including basic call center functionality,
and a wider range of support for IP phone models.
By and large, the additional features we will add to UMA Office to enable Onset are capabilities that were already on our UMA Office roadmap.
However, with the acquisition of ONSIP, we now plan to increase our R&D spending modestly over the next two to four quarters to accelerate development of these features.
Accelerating these roadmap items will also help bolster the attractiveness of the HUMA office to increasingly larger sized customers.
Conversely, on the sales and marketing front, we plan to trim our spending modestly over the next two to four quarters.
This is for two reasons.
The first is to fund the accelerated R&D
The second reason is to increase net income and cash flow from operations.
Given the depressed state evaluations in our industry,
We would like to position ourselves to take advantage of other inorganic growth opportunities in the future should they come along.
All in, expect our realigned spending to result in R&D running at approximately 19% of revenues.
and sales and marketing running at approximately 30% of revenues for the back half of this year.
To summarize, we are excited to achieve the significant increase in users afforded by ONCEP. Our primary focus for ONCEP at this time is on integrating the team and achieving operational synergies.
We're also realigning our spending to establish increased flexibility to take advantage of further industry consolidation.
I will now turn the call over to Shig, our CFO , to discuss our results and outlook in more detail and then return with some closing remarks.
Okay
Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone.
Before I dive into our second quarter financial results, I'd like to provide details about the financial aspects of the ONSIP transaction we completed on July 22, 2022, right before the end of the second quarter.
We paid $9.75 million in cash to acquire ONSIP and there are no other contingency payments for this acquisition.
As Eric mentioned earlier, OnSip is expected to add slightly more than $10 million in annual revenues to UMA.
The acquisition of OnSip is expected to be accretive to UMA's adjusted EBITDA starting in the fourth quarter of the current fiscal year and make increasing contribution to UMA's profitability and cash flows as operational synergies are realized in the subsequent quarters.
Now, I'm going to review our second quarter financial results and then provide an outlook for the third quarter in the four-year fiscal 2023.
We delivered another quarter with strong financial results achieving $52.7 million in total revenue, which included approximately $0.3 million of subscription and services revenue from ONSIP for the last nine days of the quarter.
Excluding on-sip revenue contribution, our Q2 revenue came in at $52.4 million, exceeding our guidance range of $51.4 million to $51.9 million.
On a year-over-year basis, total revenue grew 12% in the second quarter, driven by the strength of UMA Business, which accounted for 51% of total subscription and services revenue for the quarter, as compared to 48% in the prior year quarter.
In addition, Q2 product and other revenue came in at $4.7 million as compared to $3.5 million in the prior year quarter, primarily due to certain accessory sales.
non-GAAP net income for the second quarter was $3 million, which also exceeded our guidance range of $2.4 million to $2.8 million.
The impact of OnSip on our Q2 profitability was immaterial, given that the transaction closed very close to the end of the quarter.
Now, some details on our Q2 revenue.
Excluding the impact of ONSIB, UMA Business Subscription and Services Revenue grew 16% year-over-year in Q2.
driven by user growth as well as upward growth.
The financial subscription and services revenue grew 3% year over year.
For the second quarter, total subscription and services revenue was $48 million, or 91% of total revenue, compared to 93% in the prior quarter.
Now some details on our key customer metrics.
We ended the second quarter with 1,181,000 core users, up from 1,111,000 core users at the end of the first quarter.
The core users at the end of the second quarter includes approximately 50,000 business users acquired in connection with the on-site transaction.
As Eric mentioned earlier, the increase in core users during a quarter was also boosted by additional users from our largest customer as they continue to deploy our solution.
At the end of the second quarter, we had 394,000 business users, or 33% of our total core users, an increase of 74,000 from Q1.
A blended average monthly subscription and services revenue per core user or app-brew increased 6% year over year to $13,080, up from $13,001 in the prior quarter, driven by an increasing mix of business users, including higher app-brew Office Pro and Pro Plus users.
Approve for Q2 excludes the impact of ONSIP users as the acquisition was completed very close to the end of the quarter.
During the second quarter, we continued to see a healthy Office Pro and Pro Plus take rate with 47% of new Office users opting for these higher tier services, which was up from 45% in a per year quarter.
Overall, 24% of our Office users have now subscribed to our Pro or Pro Plus tier.
Our annual exit recurring revenue in Q2, excluding the impact of OnSip, grew to $186.8 million and was up 10% year-over-year.
Our net dollar subscription retention rate for the quarter was 94% as compared to 96% in the first quarter.
A few words about our net dollar retention rate, which is a function of year-over-year output growth and churn.
As mentioned earlier, we saw a robust user growth from our largest customer, which slowed the rate of output growth in the second quarter.
As you can imagine, a customer with a large user base has lower pricing than our average business customer given its size and scope of engagement.
However, we expect a better upper growth in Q3 as we incorporate the business users from Onsip, which is priced closer to UMA Office.
Now, some details on our growers' margin.
Our subscription and services gross margin for the second quarter was 74%, which was an improvement from 72% in the prior year.
The improvement in subscription and services gross margin was driven by our increase in scale and a greater mix of higher output business customers.
Product and other gross margin for the second quarter was negative 31% as compared to negative 53% for the same period last year.
The second quarter product gross margin was favorably impacted by sales of certain accessories that drove product revenue higher in the quarter.
On an overall basis, total gross margin for Q2 was 65%, as compared to 63% in the prior quarter.
The higher total gross margin in Q2 this year was attributable to the year-over-year improvement in subscription and services gross margin as well as the improvement in product gross margin.
And now some details on our operating expenses.
Total operating expenses for the second quarter, which included $0.2 million of on-sip operating expenses, were $31.1 million up $4.7 million, or 18% from the same period last year.
Shelter marketing expenses for the second quarter were $16.6 million or 32% of total revenue up 22% year-over-year driven by higher marketing and channel development activity for UMA Business.
Research and development expenses were $9.9 million, or 19% of total revenue, up 20% on a year-over-year basis from $8.3 million, driven by investments in new features for both UMA Office and UMA Enterprise, as well as new products such as UMA Airdial.
G&A expenses were $4.5 million or 9% of total revenue for the second quarter compared to $4.5 million for the prior year quarter.
non-GAAP net income for the second quarter was $3 million or diluted earnings per share of 12 cents.
as compared to 13 cents of diluted earnings per share in the prior year quarter.
non-GAAP net income for the second quarter excludes approximately $0.8 million of acquisition-related cost.
incurred in connection with the OnSIP transaction.
Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $4 million, or 8% of total revenue, as compared to $4.1 million for the prior year quarter.
We ended a quarter with total cash and investments of $22.5 million after paying $9.75 million of cash to acquire Onset.
Cash generated from operations for the second quarter was $2.2 million compared to $2.6 million in the same period last year.
On the headcount front, we ended a quarter with 1,067 employees and contractors, which included new team members from OnSip.
Now, I will provide guidance for the third quarter in full fiscal year 2023.
Our guidance is on a non-GAAP basis and has been adjusted for expenses such as stock-based compensation, amortization of intangibles, and other acquisition-related charges.
Additionally, the guidance includes a four-quarter impact of the ONSIP acquisition starting in the third quarter.
We expect total revenue for the third quarter of fiscal 2023 to be in the range of $56 million to $56.5 million, which includes a similar level of product and other revenue as we had in the second quarter.
We expect the third quarter net income to be in the range of $2.7 million to $3.2 million.
non-GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be between 11 cents to 13 cents.
We have assumed $25.2 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the third quarter.
For a four-year fiscal 2023, we expect total revenue to be in the range of $215.5 million to $218.5 million, an increase from a previously issued guidance range of $210.5 million to $213.5 million.
The increase in the four-year revenue guidance range is primarily due to the addition of un-sipped revenue for the second half of this fiscal year.
In terms of revenue mix for the year, we currently expect 92% of total revenue to come from subscription and services revenue and the remaining 88% from products and other revenue.
We expect non-GAAP net income for fiscal 2023 to be in the range of $11.4 million to be $12.4 million up from our previously issued guidance range of $9.5 million to $11 million. We expect non-GAAP diluted EPS for fiscal 2023 to be in the range of $0.45 to $0.49.
We have assumed approximately 25.3 million weighted diabetes diluted shares outstanding for fiscal 2023.
I would like to provide additional color on our non-GAAP net income guidance.
Based on the midpoint of the updated non-GAAP net income guidance range of $11.9 million for full fiscal 2023, we estimate our adjusted EBITDA for the year to be approximately $15.6 million or 7.2% of revenue.
This represents an increase from the midpoint of our original non-GAAP net income guidance of $9.5 million and implied adjusted with a margin of 6% that were given at the beginning of this fiscal year. For more information, visit www.usda.gov.au
Our updated profitability guidance reflects the following factors. First.
We plan to be more judicious about our sales and marketing spend and target the spend level to be approximately 30% of revenue in the second half of this fiscal year as we successfully acquired approximately 50,000 business users through OnSip, very cost effectively in the second quarter.
Second, we expect to accelerate our R&D spend over the next few quarters to align the features between UMA Office and OnSip to ensure consistent and enhanced user experience for our business customers.
Lastly, we will be focused on building back our cash balance to over $30 million in the next few quarters which will allow us to take advantage of inorganic growth opportunities in the future.
In summary, we are pleased with our solid execution on both organic and inorganic growth initiatives during the quarter and remain focused on executing to a long-term strategy to achieve profitable growth.
I will now pass it back to Eric for some closing remarks. Eric?
Thank you, Shug.
This is certainly an exciting time for UMA as we expand on multiple fronts.
UMA is investing in feature enhancements for UMA Office.
New verticals and sales channel expansion for UMA Enterprise.
International expansion, airdial, and now the acquisition of Onset.
These investments are being made while also generating positive cash flow from operations and maintaining a debt-free balance sheet.
We believe these initiatives now underway can drive significant growth.
Finally, I would also like to welcome the ONSIP employees to the UMA team and thank them for their commitment and hard work.
The ONSIP team is highly experienced and we are pleased to have them become a part of UMA.
Thank you. With that, we will now take your questions.
At this time I would like to remind everyone if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad.
Your first question comes from Matt Stotler with William Blair. Your line is open.
Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe just wanted to start off with on the ONSIP acquisition, just wanted to kind of double click on the strategy, I guess go-forward strategy with that asset. It sounds like one of the opportunities there is obviously to kind of eventually migrate those customers, that customer base over to more feature-rich, core and more products, but it also sounds like there are some things in the ONSIP portfolio that are very much additive to what you provide today. So.
We'll just double click on that, specifically on what's additive and how you expect that will expand the portfolio for you guys going forward and add value for customers.
Yeah, hi Matt. So first of all, we want to serve ONSIP's customers.
as effectively as possible. And so rather than consider this a migration, if you will, we really want to make it an upgrade from their point of view. And so we want to be able to enable enhanced features from what they have today in line with the way they do business and the way they operate with Onset. It so happens that there's some great features in Office that are not in the Onset platform today. Office has stronger mobile apps, a stronger video calling capability.
incorporates SMS and some other things that OnSip customers don't take advantage of today. So we will be able to provide a better overall experience for OnSip customers over time. But that said, there's a couple things in OnSip that are on the roadmap for Office, but not yet available. They're very logical next steps for the Office platform. They're things that are in our roadmap, but we would like to accelerate how fast we can bring them out. And the two I mentioned on the call, one is a basic call center.
very complete in the types of IP phones and models that they can bring onto their network. We've been much more controlled with UMA Office, and so we're going to be expanding what UMA Office can do on that front as well. There are some other areas too. There are some business model, way customers are billed and things like that, things that need to get aligned. But all in, it's development we were going to do anyway.
Yeah, that's very helpful. Maybe just one follow-up on the go-to-market front. You obviously mentioned that you've been spending on higher marketing and channel activity, and it seems like part of this acquisition was a way to efficiently kind of go and take in a nice chunk of customers and seats. Going forward, how do you think about where you're going to continue to kind of press on the sales and marketing front as you're looking for efficiencies?
Where are those you know as you know sales marketing dollars going to be prioritized from here? so We're going to continue doing most if not all of the things we're doing today on the sales and marketing front Certainly the more significant elements that I've shared With with investors and on calls about the things we do on the sales and marketing front, but on the margin we're going to be more
I can't think of the right word, but we're going to be a little more discerning on the margin around where we choose to spend and how much we choose to spend so that we know we're optimizing each thing we do. And frankly, this is because this is being driven off the onset acquisition. We just brought on board 50,000 users.
And that's a huge step forward for us and we feel like we can balance that with a little bit of an adjustment in sales and marketing and still come out ahead, frankly. And that ability to do that, to come out ahead with faster growth this year and also come out ahead with more profitability on the bottom line, seems like a win-win all the way around for us in doing this. So again, in context of the overall sales and marketing budget which runs today, I mean last quarter it ran, it rounded up to 32% of revenues.
was really strong in the quarter.
It seems like the variables that drive that will continue going forward. So I guess, should we think about the organic subscription risk margin remaining at this level and then any guidance on what the blood did might look like?
Yeah, Mike, this is Shig. Thanks for the question. Yeah, I would say that when we look at 74% this quarter, a few factors that drove that improvement whether it's year-over-year or sequentially. One is that we took a certain cost savings initiative in the first quarter and we're seeing the benefit of that in Q2 and we always do some of those initiatives.
scale benefit there. I think second part of your question, next quarter what we see is we might see a slight dip in the 74% as we blend in ONSIP 50,000 users in. ONSIP as we acquire today is a little bit below 70% let's say subscription margin. We do see them coming up to 70% plus in the next couple of quarters.
It's sort of a temporary thing, but we're going to see some impact there, but not much. I think we're going to still be in a 73 range. But from there, I think as we continue to scale on the business users, as we continue to do that, and as we continue to look at cost-saving initiatives that we always have, we feel pretty comfortable about progressing towards 75% plus efficient margin on a long-term model.
Okay, great.
And then on air dial…
Any general guidance on how many units you might envision selling in the back half of the year? And then for the ones that you have sold so far, are you seeing two users per unit, four users per unit? What's been the average? I've beenco Heads.
Yeah.
So
We competitively, we don't really want to disclose exactly what our sales are each quarter here. We also have a second factor going on, which is we sold more in Q2 than we installed. And until they're installed, they don't show up in the financials. But we talked last quarter about how we were working hard to build a business.
10,000 pieces of equipment, 10,000 of the product, the box. And I still believe we will.
get those and more sold this year. Whether they all get installed this year, I don't know. We're working to improve our rate of being able to do that with customers. But it's substantial any way you look at it. In terms of users per box, yes, we're seeing a little over two as the average that we're running, which is kind of in line with what we expected.
And then just last on the kind of macro environment, obviously a lot of software companies have talked about a little bit longer sales cycles emerging or
You make a little more turn even what's your what's your kind of view on that as it relates to your business?
Yeah, you know, I wish the macro environment were better. It is, it's not great. It kind of affects our business mainly in two respects. You know, we do see some cost inflation, whether it's salaries or what we pay for external advertising or things like that. And also, I think customers out there, we're finding we need to talk with them a little bit longer before they buy. They're a little more careful.
But those things said I think our business is going to power through it fine we were able to take up our guidance again here and I believe we'll achieve you know, we'll beat the goals We set out at the start of the year even in the face of those challenges So it does affect us a little bit, but I think we will Move through it pretty effectively Mm-hmm. No, thank you
Your next question comes from Brian Kinzlinger with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is open. Great, thanks so much for taking my questions. One follow-up on Airdial. I'm curious, you've added two solid partners or resellers. Does that in any way help your ability to source supplies to build that 10,000? Or does that not impact your purchasing power?
So, I mentioned on the call two resellers. You recall as well we mentioned a quarter ago SpectraTel which makes a third reseller. And those are the three we've been able to announce. We do have others, but they may not be in the market yet or they may not have publicly stated that what their plans are yet. But we're excited about the number of resellers we're working with. We are finding each reseller takes time to...
You know, work with the product, understand it, train their sales folks, kind of roll it into their systems and processes. So to be honest with you, almost very little of our sales in Q2 came through resellers we're working with yet. And we're expecting that to ramp, frankly, this quarter in Q4. But we are seeing good traction with a lot of parties who need a solution. They've got hotlines or they...
They sell POTS lines and they need a solution like Airedial. In terms of sourcing supply,
That it doesn't really help with that. We have found supply a little bit
easier to manage now for two reasons. One is we've done some redesign of air dial that allows us to swap in other components to give them more flexibility in purchasing. The other reason isn't a great reason, but we also found that if we pay a little bit more in some areas, we can get things. And so we have had to pay a little bit more to build some of the air dials we've built.
But we factored that into our guidance and we'll work through that without too much trouble. I hope that answers your question. Great. And then, I didn't hear anything on T-Mobile, maybe I missed it, but any updates on sales plans, ability to source inventory for those phones, as well as attach rates to T-Mobile's 5G platform.
Yeah, you're right, I didn't speak too much about residential in my opening statements.
You're right, I didn't speak too much about residential in my opening statements. We had another...
good quarter with T-Mobile and Q2, similar to the way we perform with them in Q1. There are a number of initiatives E-Mobile wants to do, but they didn't really take hold in Q2, and we're now looking at Q3 when we think some of those initiatives will start to happen. So, I think there's still a lot of opportunity with T-Mobile. They did do one thing in Q2. They started to put some messaging in their stores about
the Umatillo solution to go with their home internet. And I think that's a step forward, and it was one of several things that they, I believe, are intending to do to promote our solution better. Right now, mainly, most of our sales are coming when someone visits their website and purchases home internet off their website or researches on their website and comes across us on their website.
There are other channels with them that could do more. But it's a great partnership. We do have other things we're discussing with T-Mobile. There are other areas of alignment between us and them, and we'll see how those things transpire. There's nothing to announce at this time. But we're hopeful that we'll have more to say about things we're doing with T-Mobile as we go forward.
that could do more. But it's a great partnership. We do have other things we're discussing with T-Mobile. There are other areas of alignment between us and them, and we'll see how those things transpire. There's nothing to announce at this time, but we're hopeful that we'll have more to say about things we're doing with T-Mobile as we go forward. Great. Thank you.
You bet. Your next question comes from Matthew Harrigan with Benchmark. Your line is open.
Thank you. You remarkably barely alluded to the consumer business during the entire call, apart from catalog.
a question just now on the T-Mobile opportunity. Can you talk a little bit more about that? And when you look at M&A activity and the multiples loosening up a little bit, is there anything on the consumer side that you would also consider at an appropriate price? I mean, clearly the holy grail was always to get the business sales above 50% and certainly higher, but it sounds like you've got a much more favorable M&A environment than you had even a few months ago by virtue of the...
We did decline marginally in the number of users we have on the residential platform. Not a lot, but a little bit. And that's something we would like to turn around. We had one of our products that we sell in Q2 have to be end-of-life and replaced. And that caused us a little bit of...
It wasn't the best for sales to have to go through that process with that product, but that's behind us now. And that was our Tello 4G product, which we replaced now. It's a product we call Tello LTE, and it has a new dongle adapter with it for the LTE connection. But, you know, all that said, residential is strong and very stable and growing at the revenue line.
We don't focus on inorganic growth for residential. I would never say never for the right opportunity. We're about making money here and it's a business we know very, very well. So it wouldn't be a bad thing to do something there. But honestly, where we think about resources and effort and concentration and focus on the company, it's on the business side. So it's much more likely that if we do more inorganic growth, it would come on the business side.
You're consistently consistent, but thanks, Eric. Sorry about that.
Your next question comes from Josh Nichols with B Riley. Your line is open.
Thank you.
Yeah, I just want to touch on the large customer so it sounds like that's growing a little bit faster I think you mentioned that that may actually exceed 50,000 users by the end of this year You were at 27,000 subs at the end of last quarter. Where were you at the end of this quarter and where are you today one month into the fiscal 3Q?
I'm not exactly sure just where we are, but I can tell you that we guided last quarter that we were going to add 8,000 or more subs, users, I should say, and we beat that number by a little bit. We were a little over 10,000. So we made good progress. And I think we can have, not exactly, but we can have a similar level of growth in Q3 with this customer. So it's pretty material now. It's really happening.
So yeah, hopefully that addresses your question.
So yeah, hopefully that addresses your question.
question is just looking at the 3Q and fiscal year guidance. So I assume around two and a half million, right, for the acquisition is what's included in 3Q and five million for the full fiscal year, is that correct?
That's a ballpark. Yeah, you're thinking about a ballpark, yes.
Yeah, so my follow up to that is like you've added over 20,000 business subs this quarter, right, compared to like 12,000 last quarter and 6,000 or something like the quarter before that in your ARPU is increasing, but effectively, you know, the entire guide up on the revenue side is really attributable to the acquisition. It seems like you're being pretty conservative given how fast the business subs are growing. You do kind of help me reconcile that fact that the subs are growing so much faster, but the
is what I mentioned earlier in my script, but the number of user ads from the largest customer we just talked about, we're very pleased with the progress, but I also made a point in my script that...
Their price point is lower than our normal business users.
and given their overall user base, you can imagine that a large customer gets a little bit of pricing than normal business customers, let's say. So again, I can't be too specific more than that, but I think those are a couple factors that are contributing to a little gap in terms of how you thought about it versus how I got through it.
Yep, that's fair. I mean, although ARPU is still up quarter over quarter, right, despite the ads that we saw. I guess are you still targeting, I think at the beginning of the year you mentioned targeting 20% business subscription revenue growth on an organic basis if we strip out the acquisition. Is that still the case?
Yep, that's fair. I mean, although ARPU is still up quarter over quarter, right, despite the ads that we saw. I guess are you still targeting, I think at the beginning of the year you mentioned targeting 20% business subscription revenue growth on an organic basis if we strip out the acquisition. Is that still the case?
In a way, yes. I mean, we're going to beat that number, but we're looking at holistically now. I mean, the changes we're making on the sales and marketing front have a bearing on that kind of plan. But we're looking at it all in in terms of what we spent for the acquisition, what we're going to spend in sales and marketing going forward. And in that sense, yes, we're going to do very well. If we weren't doing this acquisition, we wouldn't be.
trimming our sales and marketing spend and kind of realigning where we invest. But to us, this seems like a natural move. This acquisition has much better cost per user, if you will, than on the margin what we're seeing in sales and marketing. So, you know, in a way, from our point of view, they're fungible and this is a better way to spend our money to drive growth.
Fair enough, just put a bow on it. Organically you think that...
the company could beat the 20% number, and that the acquisition that you bought is actually coming in at a lower customer acquisition cost than you would normally, so that's gonna add a little bit more juice to the opportunity to allow you to expand the bottom line as well, right?
That is a good summary. Yeah. It also, all this also depends a little bit on what estimates we put on airdial. And you know, that's a new product for us. And it's off to a great start from a customer interest and backlog. And we're talking to customers who say, I need a thousand of them. I mean, it's amazing some of the customer opportunities we're talking to. But how fast products get installed and get into the revenue line, we're still
Joe Goodman, your line is open.
Great, thanks guys for taking the question. Can you talk about the stability of the Onset user base? Was it shrinking or growing?
You know in recent quarters and then that 10 million dollars of revenue is it all recurring? Is that growing? And apologies if I miss any comments related to growth.
Yeah, no, happy to. So almost all of that.
10 million plus in revenue is recurring revenue. And it's with a pretty stable customer base. Their rate of churn on their base is not too dissimilar from what we have on UMA Office today. And so to be honest, I don't think, as they were owned the last couple of years by another entity, they did not see a lot of investment in growth. So they've kind of...
grown slowly while they nurtured their existing customer base. But we feel pretty confident that we've got a very stable and loyal customer base. It's a great solution in a lot of respects, particularly for how a lot of their customers use it. And so we think that it's going to be solid recurring revenue going forward. Thank you.
Okay, thank you. And then I guess should we think about that 10 million, you know, over time kind of coming up towards your business ARPU level as you guys kind of bring them onto the UMA products? Is that a fair way to think about it?
I don't know yet on an answer to that. I can tell you that the new users that ONSIP is onboarding
call it recently, this year, whatever time period you want recently. Those new users have been at ARPUs closer to what UMA office is at today. But their blended ARPU with the whole mix of customers they have is a little bit lower than office. As we bring new features to the customer base, I think we'll be able to bring up pricing for customers who value those features and need them. But some of the customers don't need those features.
We may not. So we're going to have to see on that. I think it's too soon for us to try to model that. I can tell you that we're really excited that we can move their overall recurring margins and overall margins, frankly, up into the 70% plus range. And that means there'll be a strong contributor here at UMA regardless of what their ARPU is.
Understood. Okay. And then just switching gears over to the T-Mobile partnership, and Eric, this is probably the most questions you've received on a call related to the residential in recent quarters. But they're adding a ton of their net subscribers at T-Mobile, and the way they're talking about it is pretty durable there. And so I'm just wondering, has that partnership gone? Are you pleased with the progress that partnership's been and how that's been going? And I guess, you know, what are some of the reasons why you haven't seen kind of at least a stop of...
And I think that I could go into business reasons they have, why things get delayed or things don't happen as fast as originally the thinking is they might. But I think there's still commitment. And I think we're going to see more things happen going forward. So yeah, I'm pleased with it. And I'm glad to have them as a partner. And you're right. The home internet that they're providing is really selling well.
I think that's opportunity for us.
opportunity for us. Thank you.
There are no further questions. I'll turn the call back to CEO Eric Stang for closing remarks.
Well, everyone, thank you. We're really excited about everything we had to talk about today, and we think this ONSIP acquisition is a real find for us as a company in terms of what will make a difference for us and how we approach the market and what we're doing. And we're excited about driving a higher revenue, higher profit year this year on the back of it and the other things we're doing. So.
Thank you everyone and have a good day. Bye-bye. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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