Q4 2022 Twin Disc Inc Earnings Call
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Greetings, and welcome to Twin Discs Inc. Fiscal Fourth Quarter 2022 Financial Conference. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference,
please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Stan Berger. Thank you. You may begin.
Thank you, Doug. On behalf of the management of TwinDisk, we are extremely pleased that you have taken the time to participate in our call. And thank you for joining us to discuss the company's fiscal 2022 fourth quarter financial results and business outlook.
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at 2 6 2 6 3 8 4 thousand and she will send a copy to you. Hosting the call today are John Batten, Twin Disk Chief Executive Officer and Jeff Knudson, the company's Vice President of Finance, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer and Secretary. At this time I will turn the call over to John Batten. John .
Thank you Stan and good morning everyone. Welcome to our fiscal 2022 fourth quarter and year-end conference call. As usual, we will begin with a short summary statement and then we will be happy to take your question.
Before Jeff goes over the quarter results, I will touch on some of the operational highlights from the quarter. Obviously, with demand, a lot went right in the fourth quarter, and our global operations team did a great job getting out as much as we did. The momentum built through the quarter as we got in a lot of the much needed missing components, whether it was chips, wiring harnesses, gears, or castings, and we were able to catch up on our backlog. We continue to see strong demand in Asia for oil and gas.
But we also saw improving demand in our global marine markets, industrial markets, and our domestic oil and gas markets. We have received new unit orders for the domestic pressure pumping fleet and we're optimistic that this will improve in fiscal 23. We have orders for both our 7600 and 8500 transmission series.
Every facility, every product did a great job delivering in the fourth quarter, but there was a tremendous push from the team here in Racine to catch up on past due products because of supply chain issues. Their ability to overcome part shortages was impressive. Whether it was redesigns for alternate parts availability or developing new sources, it all came together this quarter. Their efforts also flowed down through the margin lines with better mix, better efficiency, and quicker reactions to inflationary pressures.
Operational performance was better across the board. During the quarter we continued to work extensively with our supply chain to prioritize our order board and to take care of as many customers as possible. Electrical and other components out of Asia, especially China, continue to be the most unpredictable but it is increasingly difficult in Europe as well as the energy prices are soaring and companies choose to take a temporary shutdown versus paying 10x on utility bills. This should continue to be an issue throughout the summer and fall.
Our team in Lufkin did a great job getting into full production of our mechanical PTOs and clutches and handling all the supply chain issues from India. Our hydraulic PTOs will be moving down in the next few months.
Vet Propulsion continue to develop new projects in Asia and North America and we will see the benefit of these projects in the coming fiscal year.
During the past couple of years we have done a lot of analysis on our global footprint and the size and location of all our facilities. You've seen some of the moves in Europe with the sale of a small building in Italy and the sale and lease back of our Rolle facility in Switzerland. We anticipate another move in Belgium this year as we look for a smaller, more modern facility that focuses just on gear production and assembly and test.
We had announced the buyer for our corporate headquarters, but that transaction will not happen by tomorrow And we are now an active conversation with an alternate buyer It is our intent to be out of this building by December with everyone relocated either to our 21st Street facility across town Or our new office in Milwaukee and now I'll turn it over to Jeff
to talk about the financials.
Thanks John , good morning everyone, I'll briefly run through the fiscal 22 fourth quarter and year to date numbers. Thanks John , good morning everyone, I'll briefly run through the fiscal 22 fourth quarter and
Sales of $76 million for the quarter were up almost $10 million, nearly 15% from the prior year fourth quarter and up 16.7 million or 28.1% from the previous quarter.
The sales increase reflects continuing growth and demand across our markets along with the improved operational execution John was talking about through the ongoing supply chain challenges.
The operations teams managed to overcome many of the supply chain constraints that hampered production in previous quarters.
However, these supply chain imbalances persist and will continue to challenge our operations team as we move into Fiscal 23.
Electronic components remain the most challenging area to manage as the industrial product line has the least exposure to the electrical component shortage. Sales of industrial products improve by nearly 42 percent compared to the prior year fourth quarter.
With greater exposure to electrical components, off-highway transmission sales grew by 21.4% and marine propulsion sales were up by 6.7%.
By region, sales into North America were up 28%, Asia Pacific was up 40%, and Europe was down 15%. Foreign currency exchange was a net negative 5.1 million impact to sales in the fourth quarter and negative 8.5 million for the full year.
For the 12 months of fiscal 22, sales finished ahead of the prior year by $24.3 million or 11.1%.
The fourth quarter margin percent was 31.8% compared to 27.7% in the prior year fourth quarter. The improved margin in the current year is the result of increased revenue, a more profitable mix of product, and the positive impact of pricing actions taken early in the second half to offset the impact of inflationary cost increases across our supply base. We continue to monitor the inflationary environment and remain prepared to react with any additional required pricing actions.
Spending on marketing, engineering and administrative costs for the fiscal 22 fourth quarter increased
just 600,000 or 3.5 percent compared to fiscal 21. The increase in the quarter is primarily due to inflationary impacts and a return to more normalized spending on travel and marketing activities.
partially offset by a currency translation driven reduction.
As a percent of revenue for the fourth quarter, ME&A expenses were 22.8% compared to 25.3% in the prior year fourth quarter. For the full year, ME&A was 24.7% of revenue compared to 25.5% for fiscal 21.
We recorded a restructuring benefit actually of just 600,000 during the quarter which relates to an adjustment to a previously recorded charge for the ongoing activities in Belgium.
including the small restructuring benefit, the operating profit for the quarter was 7.8 million compared to an operating loss of 5 million in the prior year fourth quarter.
the full year operating income of $11 million which includes a $3.3 million dollar gain on the sale of our Swiss facility.
is 23.3 million improved from the fiscal 21 operating loss of 12.3 million.
The effective tax rate for fiscal 22 was 17.8% compared to negative 200% for fiscal 21.
The unusual prior year rate was significantly impacted by the recording of a full domestic valuation allowance in fiscal 21.
The net profit for fiscal 22 is $8.1 million or 60 cents per diluted share compared to a net loss of $29.7 million or $2.24 per diluted share for fiscal 21.
EBITDA of $10.6 million for the quarter was improved from $4.9 million in the prior year fourth quarter. And for the full year, EBITDA improved by $18 million from $3.6 million in fiscal 21 to $21.6 million in fiscal 22.
Turning briefly to the balance sheet, inventory was up 12.1 million for the year, driven primarily by supply chain imbalances, although we did see a decrease of 4 million during the fourth quarter thanks to the improved operational throughput noted.
We continue to focus on refining inventory planning and resourcing strategies that will balance incoming components with the shortage items currently preventing final assembly and shipment of units.
With a significant increase in inventory and strong June revenue driving an increase to trade receivables, operating cash was negative $8.3 million for the year.
Capital spending at $4.7 million for the year was significantly less than we had intended, and impacted primarily by lead times on machine tools.
And now I'll turn it back to John for some final comments.
Thanks Jeff, and I'll spend a quick moment on our outlook. Obviously when you look at our backlog, up 40% versus a year ago, we are feeling proportionally better heading into fiscal 23. New unit orders for North American oil and gas have started back up, and the fleet continues to be overhauled. And our backlog in marine and industrial is very strong as well. Our concerns continue to be everyone's concerns. Global supply chain issues and the situation in Europe , and the toxic cocktail of the war in Ukraine, Russian natural gas supply, and soaring energy prices.
team and the code processes and supply chain that they have developed and continue to develop.
That concludes our prepared remarks and now Jeff and I will be happy to take your questions. Doug please open the line for questions.
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Our first question comes from the line of Noah Kay with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, this is Jason Vernoff for NOAA-K. Can you help us unpack how much of the gross margin improvement was price versus mix? And as you look around the backlog composition, do you foresee gross margins remaining above 30% in the next few quarters? Thank you.
Yeah, I can answer that one for you. So as we look at year over year Q4, about 3 million of the increased gross profit was volume with another two combination of mix and price. I would say of that remaining two, about a million and a half would have been mix driven with the remainder being price.
this kind of high level ballpark on that. As far as going forward, gross profit, I think it's going to be heavily volume related. I think at a 75 million run rate, we would expect to stay over 30%. I think what we're seeing is, as John mentioned, everything really went right as far as operational execution in Q4, and we are now facing the return of supply chain challenges. I don't think we'll see.
You know, a $75 million Q1, I think our Q1 will be more like volume levels we saw, you know, middle of last fiscal year. And I think we'll have gross profit approaching 30%. I don't think we would.
indicate that we'll stay above 30 percent at what might be a lower volume level as we start fiscal 23.
Thank you. If I could just get one more question in. So you highlighted the silent jet launch with Hinkley. Can you discuss the impact of elevated fuel prices on your marine customers, demand preferences for diesel-electric, hybrid, and full-electric? Thank you.
Well
Tough to say on the demand, I mean just from a 50,000 foot level, obviously higher fuel prices, I think would put a damper on the pleasure craft market. But I do see fuel prices coming down. I think everyone is trying to offer an option, whether it's a diesel, a hybrid system or fully electric. And I think you're just going to see…
Year after year, every boat builder is going to be developing an electric or hybrid option and then see where the market goes. We're just basically in the very infancy of this market. But I think this is going to be a big growing part of the market. There's no doubt about that.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Robert Schultz with Robert W Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, good morning guys. This is Bobby on for Josh. Last quarter I think you guys noted some increased quoting activity in oil and gas and thought there could be deliveries sometime in Q1 or Q2 in 2023. Are you guys still comfortable with that timeline for deliveries there or any updates?
Yeah, we actually, we delivered, we were able to take some orders and ship in the fourth quarter, and we've taken more orders and we'll be shipping in the first quarter and second quarter as well.
Yeah, this is what helps actually having some excess inventory. We were able to react very quickly.
Got it, thanks. And then maybe if we were to look at the 4Q results and annualized after 2023, maybe I have around $300 million in revenue and maybe $40 million of EBITDA and over $2 a share in EPS, what do you think the puts and takes are to doing that?
Well, I think it's a one we're going to go...This year will be like most years where we will...Volume and margin should build through the year, so Q1 will be the lowest sales and margin quarter. And it is again just by days availability of shipping we have...
shutdowns here in North America but we have extended shutdowns in Europe .
I will let Jeff answer on the FX component, but we're going to be looking at a dollar that is...
15% stronger than it was a year ago, so that's gonna, that will affect the comparisons year over year significantly. But again, when we look at our backlog, and we look at, in general, the supply chain,
should be getting better.
particularly out of Asia with fewer COVID shutdowns in China. I'm hoping that energy, you know the the mix there the wild card is what happens to energy prices in Europe and the availability of parts through Europe . But right now with our backlog and our outlook and how strong our markets are, Fiscal 23 should be better than our Fiscal 22. What's hard to predict is when all the parts come in. I mean our fourth quarter was amazing.
compared to the other quarters, but we really would have wished some of that volume were in Q3 and Q2. What is hard to predict is will parts come in.
in enough time in September for us to ship in September or are they shipping in October ? That's going to happen every month and every quarter. But on balance fiscal 23 should be noticeably better year than fiscal 22.
Got it. Thank you. And then just one more. For 23, what are you guys thinking from free cash flow and what sort of debt pay down are you looking at?
Yeah, it's a good question, right? So we had a really good end of year volume push, receivables were up, so we should be driving some good.
good collection activity through the first quarter. Inventory should continue to come down through the year. So barring some sort of a strategic action, I think we'd be looking at something in the net.
$3 to $5 million of free cash flow.
You know a lot will depend on our our capex program and how much we're able to
how much we're able to actually get into the year. I think we have some pent up demand. Um....
you know, given all the...
low levels the last few years.
That's a pretty big variable as well. We're looking at somewhere around the 14 million range in fiscal 23.
We'll see where it is. I think we're very confident we'll be positive in the 3 to 5 million range.
Awesome. Thanks, guys. I'll leave it there.
there. Yup.
Our next question comes from the line of Simon Wong with the belly funds. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, good morning John and Jeff.
Good morning, Simon.
Israel?
The oil and gas business, how big is that in the quarter?
Good question, Simon. You know, it was probably...
The problem we have is the units are pretty straightforward and then there's the aftermarket P switch.
is a little less straightforward. It's kind of anecdotal what percentage of our overall aftermarket volume is.
you know, it's going to the oil and gas market.
think about
I'd say 20-25% of the 75. So 15 million to 18 million of the quarter was oil and gas related.
And how much is that new equipment versus consumable?
I would imagine that consumable is a big driver of your gross margin improvement, right? Absolutely, yes.
units for what? 30, 40 units?
A little less than half would have been new units.
Okay, great.
Then in terms of your pipeline for new equipment orders, are you seeing the orders for rebuilds or is it more for reactivations?
What's that pipeline look like?
I would say it is...
It is a mix of
So, there's new rig construction. There's also a lot of new units for us going into rebuilding existing rigs.
So, I'm just trying to come up with a percentage.
It's probably.
It's close to 50, well I'd say it's a little bit stronger, they're replacing engines and transmissions on rigs and not building a complete new rig. So a little bit more towards that, but they're putting in new units.
versus rebuilding again. Because some of these the transmissions have, you know, 20 plus thousand hours on them. Can you tell if rigs have been working or if rigs have been sitting on the sideline for the last three years that they try to bring back online?
Most of the ones that we've been doing have been working.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, great. And then in terms of..................
The trends, the pressure pumping, a lot of talk about e-Frac and that, all this for e-Frac. Do you have anything in your pipeline that addresses that market? Yes. Yes, we do. We have orders for e-Frac rigs.
Oh, you do, okay. We do, it's the minority of them right now. But again, we're facing supply chain issues there as well as getting the motors for that. So it's...
We'll see what the percentage is. For us it's a small percentage but it's a growing percentage.
Now is that the 7600 or 8500 that's going to eFAC? It's just a version of the 7600.
Okay, great.
And then just to confirm the cap-backs for 2020, we're looking at 14 million, is that correct? I just want to make sure I got that. Yeah, yep, that's correct.
Okay, great. Thank you for your time.
Thanks Simon.
If there are no further questions in the queue, I'd like to hand Nicole back to management for closing remarks.
Thank you, Doug, and thank you everyone for joining our conference call today. We appreciate your continuing interest in TwinDisc and hope that we've answered all of your questions. If not, please feel free to call either Jeff or myself and we will get to your question as quickly as possible. And we look forward to speaking with you again following the close of our Fiscal 23 first quarter. Doug, now I'll turn it back to you. Okay.
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.
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