Q3 2022 Sotherly Hotels Inc Earnings Call
Hello, and welcome to today's suddenly hotels third quarter 2022 earnings call and webcast. My name is Bailey and I'll be your moderator for today's call all lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers. If you would like to ask a question. Please press star followed by one on.
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I'd now like to pass the conference over to our host Max Sims Vice President of operations. Please go ahead.
Thank you and good morning, everyone. If you did not receive a copy of the earnings earnings release, you may access it on our website at southwardly hotels Dot com in the release the company has reconciled all non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in accordance with Reg G requirements.
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Although we believe the expectations reflected in any forward looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions. It can give no assurance that these expectations will be attained factors and risks that can cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by forward. Looking statements are detailed in today's press release and from time to time in the company's filings.
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The company does not undertake a duty to update or revise any forward looking statements with that I'll turn the call over to Scott.
Mack Good morning, everyone I'll start off today's call to review of our portfolio's key operating metrics for the quarter.
Looking at the third quarter results for the same store composite portfolio Revpar was $103 42, driven by an occupancy of 62, 7% and an ADR of $164 97.
Third quarter Revpar performance represents an increase of 12, 3% over the same period in 2021.
Looking at these figures versus third quarter of 2019, Revpar increased two 7% with occupancy down seven 2%, but ADR, increasing 10, 8%.
Year to date Revpar for same store composite portfolio was $110 65 with.
With occupancy of 62, 2% and <unk>.
$177 88.
Year to date Revpar performance represents an increase of 31, 4% over the same period in 2021.
Looking at these figures versus the comparable period in 2019, Revpar was down seven 2% with occupancy down 12, 9% and ADR, increasing six 5%.
Overall, we were pleased with our portfolio of third quarter results highlighted by sustained strength in demand for leisure travel during the summer months, coupled with strong growth in demand for group business travel.
For September alone Revpar was up 9% over 2019 with ADR up nearly 11% and occupancy only slightly off pre pandemic levels, a definitive indication that we are nearing a normalized operating environment.
Examining our portfolio as recent booking trends for business and group travel further validates the thesis that demand from these segments as returning to normalized levels.
For the group segment, our portfolio produced 86% of the group business in the third quarter 2022, compared to Q3 2019. However September group business was 106% of group business in September 2019 for.
For the business travel segment, our portfolio was at 67% of the business travel produced in Q3 2019, though our September business travel revenue increased to 78% of the business travel in September 2019. These.
These trends, which has shown further improvement thus far during the fourth quarter are an encouraging sign for our company.
The continued strengthening of the business travel and group group segments came across our entire portfolio, who is most noteworthy at are heavily impacted urban hotels in Washington, DC, and Houston, which experienced the best year over year improvements in performance, while contribution from group and business travel piece hotels was at its highest level since the start of the pandemic we believe.
There is still significant upside potential for these assets as midweek occupancy continues to grow and forward bookings are trending positively for Q4 and next year and.
In addition, we can performance at our urban properties was boosted during the quarter by demand drivers such as concerts major sporting events and citywide events that are now running at or near full capacity.
Meanwhile, our portfolio of leisure focused hotels maintained their strong results during the quarter as leisure demand was combined with a steady return of group demand to produce outstanding results rate growth at our leisure focused hotels was especially strong during the quarter with rates easily outperforming pre pandemic levels.
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Looking at some highlights across the portfolio. The Desoto Savannah continued its excellent results during the quarter as the property easily outpace 2019 metrics with a 36, 3% gain in revpar fueled by significant rate growth of 27, 8% and occupancy growth of six 7% over 2019.
The Hyatt centric Arlington continues to show strong sequential sequential improvement relative to 2019 fueled by the return of business travel to the hotel.
The third quarter Revpar was still off 10, 1% compared to the same period in 2019. This was a significant.
Significant improvement over the second quarter.
Right, which was up eight 6% compared to the third quarter of 2019 was the main driver of this improvement the property continues to outperform its competitive set and during the quarter. The hotel achieved Revpar index of nearly 124% and gained over 8% Revpar share further solidifying its position as a leader in the market.
<unk> balanced in Wilmington, North Carolina posted exceptional results for the third quarter as the hotel drove strong demand from the leisure and group segments, improving revpar by 12, 3% over 2019 fueled by three 2% increase in occupancy and an eight 9% increase in rate the property continues to perform well versus competitive set.
Gaining seven 4% in revpar share during the quarter.
Management's strategic cost control initiatives and revenue management strategies aimed at driving rate led to commendable profitability during the third quarter as we continued to experience margin expansion over pre pandemic levels.
Looking at hotel EBITDA margins for the third quarter 2022 versus 2019 margins expanded 420 basis points to 25, 1% year to date margins have expanded 110 basis points over 2019 to 27, 7% the highest level in the company's history.
The labor markets are still challenging this headwind appears to be easing, thus, reducing our reliance on expensive contract labor, while also improving the quality of service for our guests. In addition guests at our hotels continue to show minimal price sensitivity to ancillary revenue drivers such as food and beverage outlets parking banquet rentals and resort fees following a period.
A greatly reduced offerings during the pandemic, our hotels reconfigured food and beverage operations are nearing stabilization, providing additional revenue opportunities at our properties.
As we navigate the post pandemic operating environment margin control will continue to be a crucial area of focus for our managers. All in all we are pleased with the quarterly operating results for our portfolio and are encouraged by the trends we are seeing going forward.
I'll now turn the call over to Tony.
Thank you Scott reviewing performance for the period ended September 32022 four.
For the third quarter total revenue was approximately $39 2 million, representing an increase of 10, 5% over the same quarter in 2021.
On a year to date basis total revenue was approximately $124 $7 million representing.
Representing an increase of 34, 8% over the same period in 2021.
Comparing current performance to pre pandemic levels total revenue for the third quarter increased to 92, 2% of the level of total revenue for the same period in 2019 on a year to date basis total revenue increased to 88, 2% of the level of total revenue for the same period in 2019.
Hotel EBITDA for the quarter was approximately $9 8 million representing.
Representing an increase of 10% over the same quarter 2021 year to date Hotel EBITDA was approximately $34 6 million, representing an increase of 51, 7% over the same nine month period in 2021 <unk>.
Comparing current performance to pre pandemic levels Hotel EBITDA increased to 110, 3% of hotel EBITDA for the same period in 2019.
On a year to date basis hotel EBITDA increased to 91, 8% of the level of hotel EBITDA for that same nine month period in 2019.
For the quarter adjusted <unk> was approximately $2 4 million.
Renting an increase of $2 $4 million over the same quarter of 2021.
Year to date, adjusted <unk> was approximately $9 8 million.
Representing an improvement of approximately $13 $4 million over that same nine month period in 2021.
Comparing current performance to pre pandemic levels.
Adjusted <unk> increased to 217, 5% of the level of adjusted <unk> for the same period in 2019.
Year to date adjusted <unk> increased to 81, 1% of the level of adjusted therefore, though for that same nine month period in 2019. Please.
Please note that our adjusted <unk> excludes charges related to the early extinguishment of debt gains and losses on derivative instruments charges related to aborted or abandoned securities offerings, Aesop and stock compensation expense as well as other items.
Hotel EBITDA excludes these charges as well as interest expense interest income.
General and administrative expenses and our income tax provision as well as other items. Please refer to our earnings release for additional detail.
Looking at our balance sheet.
As of September 32020 to the end of the quarter. The company had total cash of approximately $30 million.
Consisting of unrestricted cash and cash equivalents of approximately $23 million as well as $7 million, which was reserved for real estate taxes capital improvements and certain other items.
Looking ahead to the fourth quarter. The company estimates cash generated at the hotel level to range between 10, and 10 in a quarter million dollars.
We expect corporate level G&A expenses.
Of approximately $155 million.
And capital expenditures are expected to be approximately two 4% to $65 million for the quarter.
Outlays for scheduled payments of principal and interest are expected to be approximately $6 3 million for the quarter.
Overall, we are expecting cash used by our portfolio to be no more than about $600000.
Since December 2020, we have removed $55 $3 million of debt from the Companys balance sheet using approximately $52 2 million generated in asset sales during that period, we reduced deferred interest due to our lenders and deferred fees due to certain vendors all of which was granted to us.
Through various forbearance agreements.
<unk> by approximately $8 5 billion over the period.
We expect all such repayment of deferred interest and principal from forbearance granted during the pandemic as well as forbearance granted by our vendors to be complete by the end of 2022, ending another important chapter in the company's recovery from the pandemic financial impact.
At the end of the quarter, we had principal balances of approximately $322 7 million in outstanding debt at a weighted average interest rate of 488% proxy.
Approximately 96% of the company's debt carried a fixed rate of interest after taking into account the company's interest rate swap agreements.
As we enter a more normalized operating environment, we anticipate capital expenditures to be more in line with historic norms, and we estimate capital expenditures will amount to approximately $7 2 million.
For calendar year, 2022, and I'll now turn the call over to Dave. Thank you Tony and good morning, everyone. During the third quarter, we experienced encouraging trends across our portfolio as business and group travel continued to improve while leisure travel maintained its robust demand and exceptionally strong rate growth the.
The improvement in operating fundamentals was reflected in the quarter's profitability metrics with hotel EBITDA and adjusted <unk> per share easily outpacing the same period in 2019, our portfolio's continued recovery during the quarter demonstrates the ideal location of our southern as our southern coastal markets.
As well as management's ability to navigate the lodging environment with a flexible operating model.
Our portfolio of sustained no material damage from hurricane, Ian which swept through Florida and up the east coast at the end of the quarter. This major storm caused only a nominal impact on revenues for the portfolio in the quarter as our sales managers did a commendable job in seeking out replacement business from Hurricane related response personnel and <unk>.
Booking group business for future dates leisure demand at our hotels remained particularly strong during the quarter, especially at our coastal properties, such as hotel ballast and the Desoto, which.
Which posted historically strong room rates during the period rates were especially strong during high demand periods in the quarter or such as the fourth of July Labor day weekend, and other citywide events, notably ADR at the Desoto increased nearly 28% over the third quarter of 2019 translating to excellent.
Profitability.
While the pace of the recovery has been uneven across segments and markets. We are progressively witnessing signs that traditional travel patterns are normalizing demand at our urban locations experienced the most profound year over year increases during the quarter, a trend, which clearly reflects the improving group and business travel segments in those markets.
Much of this improvement was driven by post labor day demand, suggesting a more normalized corporate travel calendar, one which the industry has not experienced since before the start of the pandemic.
Margin improvement at the Hyatt centric in Arlington highlights this trend as revpar steadily pushes towards 2019 levels, notably Revpar at this property improvement approximately 1000 basis points quarter over quarter relative to 2019 group demand at the properties sold during the period.
Actually outpacing 2019 by nearly 20%.
While year over year occupancy growth for our portfolio was impressive. We believe there is still significant room for improvement as occupancy was still seven 2% below 2019 during the third quarter.
We expect the momentum gained during the third quarter to continue as corporate travel trends are improving and site visits leads and group bookings remained strong for the fourth quarter and next year in.
In fact fourth quarter group bookings are pacing, 12% ahead of 2019 levels, representing a significant improvement over the third quarter's group bookings in.
In addition to the improvements in group, we anticipate closing out the year with a robust.
Holiday travel season, driven by high rated leisure travel, especially in our warm weather markets. Overall, we are forecasting fourth quarter revpar to be approximately six 5% above the same period of 2019.
We are closely monitoring macroeconomic data consumer behavior, and corporate travel policies and have not seen any pullback in demand.
Future booking pace of room rates, we believe these encouraging trends in tailwind for our industry and our portfolio will continue to fuel our growth prospects for the remainder of 2022 and beyond.
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The first question today comes from the line of Alexander Goldfarb from Piper.
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Hey, good morning, good morning down there.
So just getting to the overall business and profitability one great to hear that all of the.
Leisure business are coming back great to hear about the strong.
Group bookings holiday travel et cetera, but if we look at your at your press release and estimate uses of cash even with all these positives.
We're still going to use a few hundred thousand of cash.
Based on the debt service of $6 3 million.
So if you are back I think I heard you guys say you're back to sort of 92% of revenue levels.
How how are you thinking or how should we think about the ability for the company to get back to being cash flow positive in a meaningful way.
And are there are there ways to I mean at a high rate environment sounds tough, but are there ways to reduce the debt service, while still growing revenue or additional expense savings maybe you could just walk through that.
Talking about the debt.
Yeah. Good morning, Alex This is Scott.
Contacting that one I guess, a couple of things first of all.
When youre looking at cash usage in the fourth quarter that Tony forecasted Theres still about what $300000 or maybe a little bit more than that $600000 of forbearance.
Our payments there so.
On a normalized basis, we're at least cash cash neutral when you remove those onetime forbearance payments that were finished.
Finishing up here at the end of the year. The other piece, our capex forecast for the fourth quarter is kind of back loaded.
Heavy number.
Just because we've kind of taken taking the year and things are delayed so we didn't spend as much earlier in the year and we're going to be spending more in the fourth quarter, just because it just takes longer to get stuff done and get the get products delivered at this point. So again, the heavier number for the fourth quarter.
I think to that Alex This is Tony I would add that ours is a seasonal business.
Really really strong second quarter.
Have a good first quarter and the lack of the last half of the year is generally good but its nowhere near as good as the first half of the year.
So.
The company generates most of its cash flow would be.
On a quarterly basis would be in those first two quarters of the year.
Okay. So as you think about where the company is now and you think about next year based on what you're what trends do you have in place obviously things can change, but as it stands today do you envision that for the full year 2023, you guys will be cash flow positive breakeven materially.
Cash flow positive just trying to get a sense for.
Where things stand.
After debt service after Capex.
Yes, I think on a CAD basis, we're definitely going to be positives.
We are in the budget cycle right now Alex and.
The data that we're receiving is pretty robust in terms of where we think the market is going to be next year.
Okay, and then as far as that goes.
So it sounds like that $6 3 million is is really it.
$5 7 million are there ways to further reduce that debt service.
Again understanding that refinancing probably isn't an option, so I'm thinking more or their principal paydowns or anything like that that you can do to reduce the debt service such that cash flow.
You really start to grow and obviously then get towards dividend dividend restoration.
Yes, Alex I mean, all of our debt is amortizing. So we make principal payments on all of that on a schedule basis. So it's by nature. The principal balances producing every single quarter every single month.
Beyond those scheduled payments.
To use excess cash to reduce it.
<unk> reduced the debt could be a possibility, but it's not going to be a meaningful.
Pay downs were not sitting on a ton of excess cash to reduce our debt in that manner. Yes. This is Tony I would add that we do have a number of loans that.
Either we cannot pay down legacy MBS that some of our C. MBS that or are there significant prepayment penalties on that debt. So there's not too many pieces of mortgage debt that we really have the opportunity to pay down.
Outside maybe a couple of pieces that are coming up for maturity next year.
Alex I would also bring your attention to I think we made a comment in the script that there is for the calendar year 2022, Theres about seven 5% to $8 $5 million worth of.
Forbearance payments, that's cash that we used to catch up on deferred interest and deferred principal.
And deferred.
Their payments.
Won't recur next year.
There is.
In our view, we look at that as a.
A source of liquidity source of free cash flow for next year.
You said $8 $5 million of.
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Forbearance and catch up payments that were in 'twenty, two that won't be in 'twenty three correct.
That's correct Ryan.
Okay cool listen thank you that's good color. Thank you.
Thanks, Alex Thanks Challenge.
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There are no additional questions waiting at this time, so I'd like to pass the conference back over to Dave Wilson.
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Thank you everyone for joining us on our call and we look forward to speaking with you again on our fourth quarter earnings release. Thank you.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation you may now disconnect your lines.
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