Q3 2022 Carter's Inc Earnings Call

October 28, 2022

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Welcome to Carter's third quarter fiscal 2022 earnings conference call on the call today are Michael Casey, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Richard Westenberger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Brian Lynch, President and Chief operating Officer, and Sean Mchugh, Vice President and Treasurer.

After today's prepared remarks, we will take questions as time allows Carter's is.

Issued its third quarter fiscal 2022 earnings press release earlier. This morning, a copy of the release and presentation materials for today's call have been posted on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at IR Carters Dot com before we begin let me remind you that statements made on.

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Today's call is being recorded and now I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Casey.

Thanks, very much good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on the call before we walk you through the presentation on our website I'd like to share some thoughts on our business with you.

For the final weeks of what's been a more challenging year than we had forecasted we expected to build on the strong recovery in record earnings that we achieved last year.

2022 got off to a strong start we saw high single digit comparable sales growth through the early months of this year, but in the second quarter, we began to see the effects of historic inflation weighing on consumers and demand for our brands.

Like many retailers Carter's expected a good multiyear recovery from the pandemic.

We knew that year over year comparisons would be impacted by the nearly three trillion dollars of government stimulus last year, and we considered that in our growth plans.

We did not expect where the adverse effects of the absence of that stimulus. This year combined with a surge in gas prices food prices and interest rates.

Carter's primary target consumers are women and men in their late <unk> and early thirties. This is typically the time in their lives when many marriages occur and family formation often begins shortly thereafter.

These women and men are earlier in their careers, just starting out together and working hard to make ends meet.

Our target consumers' household income is about $75000 a year. This segment of the population has been particularly hard hit by inflation.

The federal reserve has been raising interest rates aggressively to lower inflation.

In the third quarter Federal Reserve Chairman Powell said that the higher interest rates would bring in his words, some pain to households, and businesses. We've seen some of that pain reflected in our sales this year.

A recent Wall Street Journal survey of economists indicates a high probability of a recession in the next 12 months.

In past recessions, Carter's whether those downturns reasonably well.

Children's apparel is a less discretionary product category children rapidly outgrow their outfits in the early years of life, which drives frequent shopping visits by their parents and grandparents.

Thankfully year to date, we continue to see the relative strength in our baby product offerings in the United States Baby apparel.

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Our baby apparel sales year to date are down about two 5% our total apparel sales are down about 5%.

The latest birth data through March is encouraging it was the fourth consecutive quarterly increase in births in the United States.

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During the pandemic, many weddings, where reschedule to protect families and friends from Covid.

With a nearly 40 year high and weddings forecasted this year the recent and positive trend in births may continue in the years ahead.

Our third quarter sales were over $800 million, our largest quarterly sales so far this year, but about 5% lower than we expected.

Third quarter earnings were in line with the guidance, we shared with you in July we saw mid teen operating margins in each of our retail wholesale and international segments.

By apparel market standards Carter's is a margin rich business.

Our U S. Retail segment was the largest contributor to our third quarter sales and in line with the forecast we shared with you in July .

Our monthly comparable retail sales began trending down about 10% in may and we saw that trend continue in July .

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September sales slowed with mid teen negative comps weighed down in part by the Hurricanes that impacted Florida and heat waves on the West Coast. These are two of our largest markets.

Comparable retail sales for the third quarter were down 11% and currently trending down about 13%.

Fourth quarter to date.

We saw the market for children's apparel become more promotional in the third quarter as warmer weather lingered longer than many parts of the United States.

We achieved our retail price objectives in the third quarter and we are less promotional than last year, we had a better mix and level of inventories and less clearance inventory and as a result, our retail price realization improved about 8% in the quarter, which covered comparable product cost increases.

To date, we've seen no meaningful resistance to our retail pricing, which was up less than one dollar per unit compared to last year.

Our pricing team tested lower price points in the quarter to see if they would drive better outcomes and they didn't.

Our average price points inclusive of many multi pack configurations for body suits pajamas, and playwear, a less than $11, which we believe is a compelling value proposition.

That said, we saw consumers pulling back on units purchased relative to last year, which may reflect lower real wages. This year due to inflation.

E Commerce continues to be our highest margin business ecommerce penetration in the third quarter was about 35% of our retail sales a couple of points lower than last year.

We're seeing lower demand from international guests shopping on our U S websites, which we attribute in part to the stronger dollar and reduction in promotions that attracted them in years past.

Interestingly, we've seen a benefit in our stores from improved tourism.

Our border and tourist store locations had the best comparable sales in the third quarter and are running positive comps year to date.

That improvement may be attributed to the relaxation of Covid restrictions since last year and the pent up demand to travel again.

With our progress improving price realization more attractive store opening opportunities are available to us and fewer stores may need to be closed.

We're on track to open about 30 stores this year in the United States, including 20 in the fourth quarter.

In recent weeks, we achieved a new milestone in Omnichannel sales, we saw up to 40% of our online transactions supported by our stores.

Consumers increasingly enjoy the convenience of shopping online and picking up their purchase in our stores.

Omni channel customers are our highest value customers and spend three times more each year than our single channel customers.

In the United States about 70% of children's apparel continues to be purchased in stores.

We have a very profitable store model, 98% of our stores are cash flow positive and we continue to see a good return on our investment in new stores, we plan to open 100 or more stores over the next five years net of store closures.

Since 2019, we have closed over 100 low margin stores, reducing our U S retail sales by over $100 million and improving retail profitability by over $10 million, we expect that our outlet stores will be a smaller percentage of our store portfolio in the years ahead.

With the surge in gas prices. This past year, our outlet store sales have been trending lower than our strip center and mall stores located closer to densely populated areas.

Our marketing team is focused on leveraging the strength of our loyalty and private label credit card programs to better serve our customers and improve profitability.

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Our private label credit card holders surpassed 1 million customers. This year. These are more frequent shoppers and the related transaction fees are lower so these are margin accretive sales.

Our private label credit card has grown to be one of the most frequent cards used by our customers about 17% of our retail sales and it is expected to grow in the years ahead.

The data from our loyalty and credit card programs that enables our marketing team to better understand the consumer's needs such as the age and gender or the child. So we can personalize and improve the effectiveness of our marketing and increase the lifetime value of the relationship.

Since 2019, we've improved the profitability of our retail segment by focusing on fewer better product choices rationalizing low margin skus closing low margin stores, reducing the mix of clearance sales through better inventory management, and improving price realization with fewer and better.

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Year to date through September our retail segment profitability is up over 30% compared to 2019.

The recent trend in our retail sales suggest a slower start to holiday shopping than we experienced last year.

Call that a year ago consumers were encouraged to shop early for the best selection given supply chain delays and inventory shortages and they did shop early.

A year ago, many consumers were benefiting from the access to vaccines and stimulus payments to help families with young children recover from the pandemic last year at this time it was a period of optimism as many prepared to reconnect with families and friends to celebrate the holidays in the post pandemic period.

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Our fourth quarter comparable sales last year grew over 15%. It was one of our strongest holiday seasons ever.

By comparison this year of families with young children are weighed down by historic inflation and the uncertainty of when things will improve.

Our experience this year suggest consumers may be buying what is needed when it is needed and not shopping as early as they did last year.

For the year, we expect our U S retail segment sales may be down about 11% with comparable sales down 10%.

That said the holiday shopping period has historically been good for Carter's Christmas Pajamas and special occasion dressing are typically some of our best sellers in the final months of the year.

With cooler weather, arriving in more parts of the country together with a better mix and level of inventories and assuming continued success with price realization. It's possible that the current trend in sales may improve in the final weeks of the year.

In our U S. Wholesale segment, we have sales growth with five of our top seven wholesale customers in the third quarter, but the growth was below our expectations are.

Our exclusive brands continue to be the strongest component of our wholesale segment with sales growth up 5% in the third quarter and up 10% year to date.

Many of our wholesale customers brought inventory in several weeks earlier this year to mitigate the risk of supply chain delays. We believe those decisions were made well before demand slowed earlier this year.

With the slowdown in the economy some of our wholesale customers are running higher than desired inventory levels.

In the third quarter, we saw our wholesale customers curtail inventory commitments, including replenishment orders to achieve their inventory objectives.

Our wholesale sales in the quarter were also affected by delays in shipping caused by port delays on the East Coast, We had expected to ship our fall product offerings about 80% on time in the quarter. Our actual shipping was about 70% on time with the balance running a few weeks late on average.

We experienced higher cancellations due to those late shipments, which is understandable given fewer weeks remaining to sell through those fall product offerings.

For the year, we expect wholesale sales, maybe down about 7%, which reflects lower replenishment trends and the risk of shipping delays and order cancellations in the fourth quarter.

We're assuming growth with our exclusive brands and lower sales in our core Carter's and skip hop brands.

Our new sustainable Little planet brand for babies and toddlers is growing ahead of plan with our wholesale customers Little planet is one of our more innovative launches in recent years utilizing organic cotton and recycled materials to provide a beautiful affordable premium and sustainable product offering for families with young children.

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Little Planet is sold through target Kohl's, Amazon Baby list and buy buy baby as well as through our retail and international segments.

In total we expect sales from our new little planet brand to more than double this year and we expect to see the distribution of little planet expand to more doors in 2023.

We are hopeful <unk> Amazon's recent prime day is a bellwether for holiday shopping this year, our simple joys brand had one of its best performances during Amazon's signature marketing event with sales in the two day period more than three times, our average weekly sales from our perspective Amazon's recent.

Prime day was highly successful.

As you May know Carter's has the largest supplier of young children's apparel to the largest retailers in North America. No. Other company has built the scope depth or success of wholesale distribution that Carter's is achieved for decades, which has enabled us to reach more consumers than any other apparel companies serving the needs of families with young.

Children and has enabled us to weather more challenging economic periods.

Increasingly our wholesale sales are concentrated with fewer better more financially viable retailers, which may service well in the years ahead.

Our international segment contributed 15% of our consolidated third quarter sales are operations in Canada, and Mexico drove over 75% of our international sales with Canada the largest contributor.

We believe inflation combined with the late arrival of cooler weather weighed on Canada's third quarter performance gas prices in Canada have increased to over $7 a gallon this year.

Sales in Canada trended similar to our retail segment in the United States down 11% in the quarter all other components of our international business were in line with our expectations.

For the year, we are forecasting international sales down about 4% largely due to sales trends in Canada, and we're forecasting good high single digit growth in Mexico, given their progress opening co branded stores.

Our international business as a multichannel model with retail wholesale and licensing operations.

In our wholesale operations, we have about 40 partners operating smaller retail chains and e-commerce platforms in nearly 100 countries.

Actively these smaller retailers contribute over 15% of our international sales and it is a margin accretive business.

My comments on the balance of the year reflect the high end of our guidance given the unusual and higher level of uncertainty on consumer demand during the upcoming holidays, and our progress getting product through the ports into our wholesale customers. We've widened the guidance range more than we typically would given only two months.

To go.

This is the first holiday shopping season in over 40 years that consumers are weighed down by record inflation.

Our objective in sharing guidance with you today is to reflect the current market conditions and what we believe is now possible.

Our success for many years has been driven by focusing on essential core products body suits washcloths blankets bibs blankets sleepers that Jim is in Playwear. These are consumer staples families with young children purchase in multiple quantities on a frequent basis in those <unk>.

Early years of their child's life or.

Our range of wholesale distribution is from Walmart to Macy's, we believe our brands appeal to the masses. Our Carter's brand has the largest share of young children's apparel more than 70% share than our nearest competitor.

Our brands are sold in nearly 20000 store locations in North America and on the most successful websites for young children's apparel.

Together with our wholesale customers the online retail sales of our brands. This year are expected to be about $1 $2 billion.

As history has shown with time inflation will subside, we believe the post pandemic recovery. We all began to experience last year will resume the recovery has been disrupted and delayed by inflation like.

Like many disruptions to our business in years past the financial crisis in 2007, the great recession that followed the cotton crisis in 2011, and the pandemic Carter's whether those storms and emerged stronger from them.

In 2020, the most disruptive year of the pandemic Carter's retained a higher percentage of profitability than most in our peer group a year later in 2021, we recovered and achieved a record level of profitability.

Prior to the pandemic Carter's achieved 31 consecutive years of sales growth last year, we reported over $500 million and adjusted operating income inclusive of extraordinary provisions for airfreight incentive compensation special compensation and retirement.

Fits to all employees and higher charitable contributions our challenge now is to work our way back to that higher level of profitability, which we are committed to do in the years ahead.

To mitigate the impact on earnings from the near term market conditions, we plan to reduce inventory purchases in 2023 work, our pack and hold inventories down profitably and stay lean on discretionary spending in all components of our business where possible.

We plan to continue investing in our e-commerce capabilities customer acquisition are stores, which are the number one source of new customer acquisition brand marketing and our distribution capabilities to enable a good recovery from the current market challenges.

We expect product costs and transportation costs will remain elevated in the first half of next year, then improve in the second half.

And the balance of this year, we plan to firm up our forecast for 2023, and we'll share them with you early next year.

I want to thank all of our employees throughout the world, who have supported Carter's through the volatile market conditions and challenges over the past two years with their continued support I believe Carter's best years are ahead of us.

Richard will now walk you through the presentation on our website.

Thank you, Mike and good morning, everyone.

On pages, two and three of our materials. We've included our GAAP P&L for the third quarter and the year to date periods.

As summarized on page four we had no adjustments to our GAAP results in the third quarter and only minor adjustments in the third quarter last year.

For the year to date period. This year, we had charges related to the early repayment of debt.

And last year, we had unusual charges related to COVID-19 restructuring cost and our store closing initiative.

This information is included for your reference and I'll speak to our results on an adjusted basis. This morning.

On page five we have summarized our sales and profit performance in the third quarter.

Net sales declined 8% to $819 million. These results were below what we had expected by about 5%, but reflective of the overall market right now.

Our U S and Canadian retail businesses represented the majority of our sales declined versus last year.

A result of lower consumer demand throughout the quarter.

Our profitability was within the range, we had guided to previously we had operating income of $92 million in the third quarter, a double digit operating margin and adjusted EPS of $1 67.

Our year to date performance is summarized on page six.

Given the disruption that record inflation has caused to consumer demand and to our cost structure, our sales and profitability are down versus 2021.

Recall that 2021 was a year of record profitability for Carter's.

Given the uncertainty in the market at the moment, especially related to the level and consistency of demand. Our focus is on profitability, which has always been a differentiating characteristic of our company.

To provide a little more color on our performance in the quarter I will turn to our adjusted P&L on page seven.

On the $819 million in net sales in the quarter. Our gross profit was just over $370 million, representing a gross margin rate of 45, 3%.

The decline in gross profit versus last year was overwhelmingly driven by lower sales, which represented $33 million of the overall $38 million decline in gross profit.

Gross margin was down 60 basis points close to last year's record gross margin rate.

We had significant favorability in the quarter from not repeating about $15 million of airfreight, which was incurred last year to expedite delayed product.

Unfortunately, this benefit was offset by a largely identical increase in transportation cost from higher ocean container rate.

As the worldwide economy has begun to slow we're seeing indications of that costs are moderating and we might see some relief on these elevated transportation costs beginning next year.

The balance of the change in our gross margin rate was largely mix related with a higher proportion of U S wholesale sales, which carry a lower gross margin and sales in our U S and Canadian retail businesses.

Importantly, we continued our progress in improving price realization across the business in the quarter largely offsetting higher product costs.

Our spending in the quarter was well controlled down 2% compared to last year we.

We had lower spending in a number of variable spending categories corresponding to the lower level of sales in the quarter and provisions for performance based compensation, which were lower than a year ago.

Freight and distribution costs were up year over year, given the backlog at the east coast ports higher market transportation and logistic costs and just our overall higher level of inventory, we've been spending more on logistics ended and distribution related expenses.

The congestion at the ports, both West Coast and East Coast continues to lessen.

As these improvements continue and as we work down our inventory level I would expect that our distribution and freight costs will improve from their current level.

All of this nets down to operating income in the quarter of $92 million, representing an operating margin of 11, 2%.

Below the line, we continued to benefit from lower interest costs, a year ago, we had $500 million of pandemic related financing outstanding.

Retired that debt earlier this year.

Our effective tax rate was just under 20% in the quarter compared to 21, 6% last year.

We're expecting a lower percentage of our profitability to be generated in the U S compared to our very strong performance last year.

This has the effect of driving down our effective tax rate.

We're expecting a full year effective tax rate for 2022 of about 22% down about 50 basis points from last year. This decrease is again largely driven by a lower projected mix of earnings to be generated in the U S. This year.

We've also completed a meaningful amount of share repurchases this year, which has lowered our average outstanding share count.

So on the bottom line adjusted earnings per share were $1 67, compared to $1 93, a year ago.

Our adjusted P&L for the first nine months of the year is included on page eight for your reference.

Year to date adjusted operating margin was 11, 7% compared to 15% in 2021.

This decline was principally driven by fixed cost deleverage on lower sales and higher freight expense.

On page nine we summarize some highlights of our balance sheet and cash flow.

Overall, our balance sheet is in fine shape.

In this environment, having a strong balance sheet such as ours is a key advantage, we have substantial liquidity roughly $730 million with cash on hand, and the majority of our $850 million revolving credit facility available to us.

And the last year, we deleveraged, our balance sheet meaningfully and we believe we have significant flexibility, including additional borrowing capacity should we desire it to manage our operations and to grow our company over the coming years.

Our Q3, ending inventory was nearly $900 million.

Up about 24%.

Inventories were about $20 million or 2% higher than we had forecasted largely a result of lower wholesale sales in the quarter and I'll speak more about inventory in a moment.

Our year to date cash flow is lower than last year, largely a result of lower earnings and the increase in inventory.

Given the seasonality of our business, we expect to generate significant operating cash flow in the fourth quarter at the high end of our guidance range. This would imply full year operating cash flow in the range of $40 million to $50 million.

Cash flow is a priority for us as demand and inventory levels normalize we would expect that the business will return to its historical pattern of significant cash flow generation, which is another longtime and differentiating characteristic of Carter's.

We continued to return capital to shareholders in the third quarter and this is summarized at the bottom of page nine.

In addition to paying $90 million in dividends, we've completed over $240 million in share repurchases through the third quarter, representing about 7% of our shares which were outstanding as of the beginning of the year.

Regarding inventory, we have some additional information on page 10.

Our inventory at the end of the third quarter was $899 million up 24% versus this time last year.

And as I said slightly above where we had planned to be.

Excluding pack and hold inventory our inventory increase over last year was about 13% driven by earlier receipts and higher product costs.

Given the disruptions in the supply chain throughout 2021, and the strength of our business last year, we took action to bring in product earlier than historically, which has contributed to the increase in our inventory.

The amount of in transit inventory remains high at about 28% of our inventory. This was above historical levels, although improved versus last year as a proportion of our total inventory.

Given the dramatic slowdown in demand, which began earlier this year. We have also taken action to better align inventory with the demand we're seeing in the market.

In total we've made decisions affecting roughly $175 million of inventory commitments for 2022 and 2023. These.

These include reducing our canceling planned production and packing and holding certain product to sell profitably in future seasons.

Our priority is to maximize the return on our investment in inventory given the nature of our product, which we view as fairly timeless and less reliant on fashion, we're not planning to liquidate inventory at deep discounts.

Our pack and hold inventory balance at the end of the third quarter was about $100 million.

And was comprised largely of fall winter 2022 product, which we expect to sell in 2023.

Recall that in 2020, we packed and held over $100 million of inventory, which we subsequently sold through profitably in 2021, it's our objective to achieve the same favorable results with the 2022 product, which we've now earmarked for sale next year.

Finally product costs are higher which is additive to our inventory balance product costs for the first half of next year are expected to be up in the high single digit range consistent with what we're seeing in the second half of this year with cost likely moderating in the second half of 2023.

Right now, we're projecting year end net inventories to be approximately $775 to $800 million.

Or an increase of 20% to 25% over last year.

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Beginning on page 12, we have some additional details on third quarter performance overall, our operating margin declined from 13, 9% to 11, 2% principally due to lower sales and expense deleverage.

These effects were most pronounced in our U S retail and international segments, given the high fixed cost structure of our direct to consumer businesses.

Turning to page 13, and some additional color on each of our businesses and their performance in the third quarter.

In our U S retail segment sales decreased 12% and this was in line with our plans.

We believe our core consumer has pulled back their shopping activity overall, including for our products as a result of the higher inflation, which theyre experiencing in virtually every aspect of their lives right now.

Total comparable sales declined 11% with lower sales in both our stores and ecommerce channels.

Our retail comps were pressured by lower store and website traffic as well as lower units per transaction.

A bright spot in the quarter was our continued progress in improving realized pricing with average unit retail is up high single digits versus last year in line with our plan.

Retail operating margin was 14, 1% compared to $18 seven last year. This decline was principally due to spending deleverage from lower sales higher.

Higher product and freight costs offset the benefits of improved price realization and lower provisions for performance based compensation.

And our U S wholesale business sales were down 2% versus a year ago.

Collectively sales of our exclusive Carter's brands grew 5% in the third quarter and as Mike said were up 10% year to date through the third quarter. The presence of our brands with these retailers has been very important with their businesses offering thousands of store locations and their website is garnering millions of visitors.

Replenishment demand slowed during the quarter as customers realign their inventory levels to better match, the lower demand trend occurring across the industry right now.

In some cases wholesale customers are executing broad based reductions of inventory levels, regardless of product category or current performance.

Supply chain delays also affected our Q3 wholesale performance contributing to higher order cancellations and some planned demand shifting out of Q3 ended the fourth quarter.

U S wholesale operating margin improved 20 basis points to 13, 9% better pricing lower spending on airfreight and lower compensation expenses were mostly offset by higher product costs higher ocean freight rates and distribution expenses.

We incurred about $7 million in one time distribution expense in the third quarter relating to transitioning product primarily skip hop from a high cost third party distribution facility in California to a lower cost facility in our Georgia distribution network.

International sales declined 7% in the third quarter on a constant currency basis sales declined 5% representing about a $3 million headwind from the stronger U S. Dollar.

Two of them are significant components of our international business, Canada, and Mexico sales in Canada were down for the reasons that we've discussed our business in Mexico delivered double digit sales growth in the third quarter driven by the strong performance in the direct direct to consumer part of the business.

International segment operating margin was 14% in the quarter compared to 17, 4% a year ago. The decline reflects better price realization and lower performance based compensation, which were more than offset by a lower mix of high margin ecommerce sales in Canada and higher ocean freight rates.

Turning now to some of our marketing initiatives beginning on page 14.

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Demand for little Planet products has been strong this year, even in the face of consumers, becoming increasingly price conscious level.

Products are priced higher than the equivalent Carter's products, but little planet is positioned to represent an accessible premium brand.

We've expanded little planet is distribution to over 750 doors, largely largely driven by a growing presence across our own stores.

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We have recently broadened a little planet assortment to include outerwear made from recycled materials launching just in time for colder fall weather.

Michelle we will again offer little planet family.

Holiday pajamas and organic cotton after a strong performance and last year's holiday season.

Pages, 15, and 16 showcase our branding initiatives at target and Walmart two of our important Carter's exclusive brand wholesale customers.

During Q3, we rolled out improved branding for both just one year at target and child of mine at Walmart.

This branding is in place both in stores and online and increases the prominence of the Carter's brand, which is the number one brand in young children's apparel in North America.

These branding initiatives are good examples of how we use the creativity of our organization and our ability to invest behind our brands with our most significant wholesale customers.

On page 17, Carter's exclusive brand for Amazon simple joys enjoyed prominent placement in Amazon's early access prime event earlier in October .

This two day event was one of our most successful event to date, we're very pleased with the successful early launch to the holiday selling season for simple joys.

As Mike commented, our simple joys sales during this important Amazon promotion, where a multiple of our typical weekly volume.

Turning to page 18, as we told you on our last call. We have launched a partnership with Hillary adopt an actress and millennial mom of three children, who enjoys an incredible following <unk>.

Our association with Hillary has generated a good deal of excitement so far.

As part of this brand marketing campaign, which is focused on acquiring new customers.

We launched the first of two baby collections developed in partnership with Hillary.

Product is available on our website and in store.

This slide we show some of the great in store brand marketing to showcase this collaboration.

Our second Baby collection developed in collaboration with Hilary Duff will launch in spring 2023.

Moving to page 19 retail stores are an important component of our plans to build a larger more profitable direct to consumer business over time.

Mike shared a number of the reasons why we're bullish on our stores, including the role stores play in customer acquisition and their contribution to creating compelling omnichannel experiences for our customers.

Given the strong financial return out of our new stores and the availability of attractive real estate, we're evaluating additional store opening opportunities above those currently planned.

Turning to page 20 earlier this month, we launched our holiday marketing as you can see on this page we continue to highlight the beauty of our assortment and the breadth of our holiday offerings from baby's first Christmas to matching P. J for the whole family.

We've digitally enabled our holiday gift guide for 2022. This printed guide card will reach consumers homes next week. It contains a QR code, allowing instant online access to our full holiday assortment as opposed to past holiday mailers. This year's holiday gift guide as a good example of how we are engaging with our customers and a more modern and digital way.

Moving to page 21, our leadership position across social media remains strong we're seeing continued growth across our community building efforts, especially on tech talk.

The next generation of parents are highly engaged with social media in these channels will help us Foster connection and trust as this group moves into parent at.

Turning to page 22, with some additional highlights on our business in Mexico pictured here is a new co branded store, which opened recently in north Central Mexico.

We're planning to open 12, new stores this year, including six in the fourth quarter.

We're opening these stores primarily in high traffic malls in the largest cities across Mexico.

Consumers have responded very well to the broader assortment offered in these stores relative to the smaller boutique format stores. We've historically operated in this market.

Over the next five years, we plan to Triple our retail square footage in Mexico.

Turning now to our outlook for the balance of the year on page 24 as.

As Mike said, the industry's outlook for the fourth quarter and the holiday shopping season is not as strong as we experienced last year consumer demand may very well remain under pressure as inflation is unlikely to moderate meaningfully by the end of the year.

We're focused on what we can control in this environment, we're maintaining our disciplines around pricing and promotion, we're working to manage our inventory position and our objective is to stay lean. We're scrutinizing every aspect of discretionary spending across the business. While also planning ahead. So we're best positioned for when the market eventually recovers.

While supply chain performance has clearly improved especially over a year ago challenges remain product continues to arrive later than scheduled increasing the possibility of wholesale customer order cancellations and.

And higher freight and distribution costs continue to weigh on our P&L.

In spite of these challenges there are a number of positives as we move through the balance of the year, our product Assortments and holiday marketing plans are compelling our inventory position has meaningfully improved over last year, both in quantity and composition, we are well positioned to support consumer demand over the holidays.

We remain focused on profitability, which is supported by our progress on price realization and good control of spending across the organization.

Our Q4 earnings per share are also expected to benefit from lower interest expense and the cumulative benefit of our year to date share repurchase activity.

In terms of our specific objectives for the fourth quarter on page 25.

Given our third quarter performance and current market conditions, we have lowered our outlook for the fourth quarter relative to our previous guidance.

We now expect fourth quarter net sales in the range of $845 to $885 million, which assumes U S retail comps down in the range of 10% to 15% and lower U S wholesale sales, reflecting the risk of lower demand and supply chain delays.

And we're assuming lower international sales largely driven by lower projected demand in Canada and from our international wholesale customers.

In terms of profitability, we expect Q4 adjusted operating income in the range of <unk> $85 million to $115 million and adjusted EPS in the range of $1 40 to $2.

If we're successful with our fourth quarter plans full year 2022, net sales would be in the range of roughly three 1% to $3 2 billion.

Adjusted operating income in the range of $355 million to $385 million and adjusted EPS in the range of $6 five.

To $6 65.

Our teams are focused on delivering the strongest fourth quarter possible. Our company has a history of weathering difficult market conditions, and we expect we will continue to do so in this current challenging environment.

And with those remarks, we're ready to take your questions.

Certainly and as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question at this time. Please press star one one on your telephone one moment for our first question.

Yes.

And our first question comes from the line of Warren Cheng from Evercore ISI. Your question. Please.

Hi, good morning.

I was wondering if you can give your thoughts on why the young family a young mom seems to be more discretionary with this category than in the past. So in your prepared remarks, you had some interesting insights on pressures weighing on the core consumer which we all understand.

But can you help us understand just wanted the consumer behavior seems to be different versus the last recession.

Okay.

The last recession, Didnt have a 40 year high and inflation and when you think our target consumer primary target consumer these are.

Relatively young women and men late <unk> early <unk>, just starting on their careers average household income around $75000 and when you take it back.

When you look at.

Talking about our direct to consumer business, probably would be about <unk> down 10%. This year you have to ask yourself.

As that consumer our target consumer than.

<unk> been affected by some some portion of 10% in their spending habits. This year, we believe they have been and that's what we're seeing in the performance. So it is a less discretionary product category, but I think across the board our targeted consumer has been most affected by this record inflation and they are pulling back.

Thanks, Thats very helpful and my follow up is on the gross margins. So your gross margins. They were a bright spot in the quarter you are still maintaining a level almost three points higher than pre pandemic.

And it's great to see that you continue to have success with it.

Retail price realizations.

We continue to see the softer level of demand or a steady exacerbates. How do you think philosophically about about using price to stimulate demand versus maintaining its great gains you've achieved in 2019.

Well our intention is not to go backwards on gross margin. We've had some hard hard fought wins here in terms of improving our realized pricing, which we always felt like there's an opportunity in the business and felt like the business had become.

Overly promotional the consumer had stopped listening and responding as much to deep discounts. We've tried a bit of that given demand is lower we've tried a little bit of that higher promotional messaging.

Recently and it just really did not know that spark things, but we've built some better capabilities, which I think were going to service long term, we have a group that's focused on pricing for the first time in our company's history. So some great individuals' we've added to the company. We have also added some new technology and tools to help those individuals be a bit more scientific about our pricing. So I think there's still room to go in terms.

What we can maximize there we also have a terrific supply chain. That's continued to focus on our relationships with our suppliers and I don't think we have completely maximized our opportunity to drive down product costs over time. So the combination of those I think portends well and the continued growth in our retail business, which is the gross margin rich part of our business.

Yeah.

Thanks, guys. Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you one moment for our next question.

And our next question.

Comes from the line of Tom <unk>.

It gets from Wedbush Securities Your question. Please.

Okay.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

I believe you said U S wholesale for the year should be down 7%.

It kind of implies that Q4 is down in the high Twenty's.

That seems pretty dramatic.

That would result in like Q4 wholesale being like way below like fourth quarter of 2019.

I mean, I guess is there.

I know all year, you've been kind of talking about like exclusive brands.

Kind of the mass merchants.

The.

The decline that Youre seeing in Q4 is that basically just like across the board are there like.

Wholesale partners and just like kind of completely.

I will turn off of phosphate I guess have you guys.

Help us kind of understand why.

Q4 is down so much.

It'd be helpful. Tom.

Tom we expected it would be lower I would say that relative to the July forecast it'll be about.

Around percentage of about 15% lower than what we had expected in July for the fourth quarter is largely because the wholesale customers keep in mind.

Carter's everybody was bringing product in earlier this year to get ahead of supply chain delays. So theres one customer, we probably brought our product and probably four to six weeks earlier some of our wholesale customers brought product as much as 12 weeks earlier just to get a head of supply chain delays those decisions were made.

Say long before we saw the slowdown and slowdown in consumer demand, which or at least for us started.

To be apparent to us sometime in <unk>.

In may so we knew the wholesale.

Fourth quarter sales would be lower because they were elevated last year. If you recall last year, we moved about it was probably because of supply chain delays about $70 million of wholesale demand to move from the third quarter into the fourth quarter last year. So we knew.

As we plan this year that a good portion of that $70 million would not repeat in the fourth quarter of this year. So I think a better way to think about it our wholesale we have changed our wholesale forecast for the fourth quarter by about 15% relative to what we shared with you in July heavily weighted to department stores, but it is not only department stores, we've been seeing with some of our exclusive brand customers.

Say, hey, listen we've got enough we brought a lot of product in early we got enough to make our way through the balance of the year. So so hold off sending us more even something we rarely seen is automatic replenishment orders turned down the beauty of the beauty of our business with automatic replenishment, it's automatic so as the.

Our register rings.

Triggers in water and more product is on the way from us to our customer to keep the fixture filled but I think many retailers across the board department stores exclusive brand customers price across the board, they're saying you know what this.

This can slowdown in consumer demand is greater than we had anticipated when we made our inventory decisions. This year, so we're going to dial that back.

Yes.

Yeah.

They've got probably enough to make their way through the balance of the year, we'll still have good shipments in the fourth quarter, but certainly we will not be at the level that we anticipated earlier this year.

Will it be the sales that they anticipated earlier this year.

Got it and then a quick follow up.

So obviously you had a really good year last year.

Do you think possibly what's what's happened is that last year.

All the signals that happened.

Parents bonds.

Maybe multiple years worth of clothes from your Kid.

Maybe somebody with a newborn bond inflows last year again the Kid.

Two years old or something like that.

Possibly weighs on the 2022.

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I think thats possible I don't about multiple years, but I think that's possible again I still say when you think about our consumer.

Our consumer how they have been affected by inflation I remember when I was in my late <unk> early <unk>, our target consumer we have three kids within 30 months. It was a paycheck to paycheck experience thinking about where you were nearly <unk> early thirties paycheck to paycheck now if you have record inflation.

Youre pulling back.

I've seen some of the news reports now as people are getting focused on home heating.

Prices fuel prices, particularly up in the northeast that.

More than doubled so.

I think the economies in tougher shape than anybody envisioned even in July as we head into <unk>.

The balance of the year. So did they buy ahead I think thats part of it I think more of what we're seeing is they're just pulling back they're buying more of what's needed unless of what's wanted and buying it win when they need it.

There's still two good months to go two important months to go but a year ago everybody was encouraged by early autumn holiday marketing started early people wanted to get ahead of it because it was a period of optimism had the vaccines that we're starting to travel again reconnecting with families and friends they hadn't seen over the Christmas 2020 holiday.

The world is in a different place today than it was a year ago, so year over year comparisons over the past couple of years I think have had.

<unk> been challenging alright, we keep on going back to 2019 relative to 2019 our business.

At least particularly our retail business is much more profitable than it was in 2019, but I think it's got a we knew the recovery would be a bit uneven I think it's been bumpier than most most most companies assume this year.

Understood. Thanks for the color.

During the holiday season very much.

Thank you.

For our next question.

And our next question comes from the line of Jay sole from UBS. Your question. Please.

Great. Thank you. So much my question is just on margins.

Adjusted EBITDA margin for <unk>.

<unk> implies a pretty big step down relative to 19 versus the year to date trend. So just wondering what's the split in the guidance for core <unk> between gross margin SG&A and.

Within the gross margin how should we think about the pressure between the U S retail and U S. Wholesale thank you.

And Jay I'm, probably a bit more focus on the comparison to <unk>.

Last year's fourth quarter, I think 2019 inch or just timing is becoming a little.

A little desk to look at this great quarters that far back, but we are focused on having a good operating margin in the fourth quarter roughly equivalent for the high end of our guidance roughly equivalent to our fourth quarter.

Margin last year within that plan.

<unk> for expansion in gross margin.

It comes from a few different sources, one we're spending a little less on transportation and while that's been injurious to the P&L all year that becomes a little less so in the fourth quarter. It was this time last year when some of the rates really started to spike up and so that comparison becomes a little less favorable.

A little less in various I should say and product margin is expected to be good. So that that continued progress and price realization, we start to widen out a little bit of a gap from a product margin point of view that gap between pricing and product cost that's beneficial.

Then on SG&A, we're expecting a bit of deleverage, which is kind of offsetting so you kind of have.

A good guy in gross margin and a little bit of deleverage from SG&A, which is largely just driven by the lower sales. We've got tremendous favorability that we are driving from not having the outsized provisions that Mike was referring to in terms of performance compensation charitable, giving and such that's offset though just by deleverage on.

On the lower sales, but net net down too.

Comparable operating margin per our forecast versus Q4 of last year.

Got it okay, and if I could ask one more just on the comp guidance for <unk>.

Given there.

Ooh trend there between Q3 and Q4 can you tell us maybe how things look quota data and sort of what has to happen in terms of like a catalyst per day.

The trend to change I mean in other words can we see this trend extended into 2020, given inflation is still high and obviously, we're still going to be under pressure.

Any thoughts about that would be helpful. Thank you.

Hey, Jay Logcap guidance was down is down about 10% to 15 last quarter. We were down 11, Mike stated for the month of October were down about 13, and its been interesting month or the first couple of weeks, we had a good start with weather turned cooler and some of the areas, particularly in the southeast but week three and four have been softer for us and when I look across the data we're getting from our retail partners.

<unk> pretty much the same trend. So we're down about 13 with a few days to go so let's call that October I think one of the things. We're looking at is I think as people are buying closer to need or we were hoping that what's happening is maybe the holiday shopping period is becoming a little bit more like it was a few years ago versus last year and last year folks are worried that there wasn't going to be enough inventory. So they were <unk>.

<unk> earlier and the hope is that.

Shopping period is going to be more pronounced this year in November maybe later in November . So can you say what has to happen I think I think our experienced quarter to date is in the midpoint of our guidance for that to get better. We look for a really strong period late November Black Friday, we start our marketing in a bigger way just this weekend and next week with with daily deals and <unk>.

Sorts of things, but.

The inventory position that people have that we have is better than last year last year. We didn't have as many of the Christmas Pjs and our retail partners. We're running out of goods. So people have the product to do the business. It will come down to what the consumer demand is and what they're willing to spend on children's apparel. This holiday season.

Got it that's super helpful. Thank you so much.

Thank you one moment for our next question.

And our next question comes from the line of Ike <unk> from Wells.

Wells Fargo. Your question please.

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Going back to Tom's question.

All in wholesale can you talk a little bit Mike I guess, you said 15 points lower versus what you felt three months ago, how much of that is as order book.

Versus maybe cancellation that you see ahead of holiday and then just again.

Given the decline that that implies for Q4.

Is there any visibility into the spring wholesale order book.

Our kind of net pricing look within that book any need for markdown dollars youre.

Youre expecting now in the first half for spring just any more color there would be really great sure.

On the first split between lower demand lower replenishment.

Lower replenishment trends, if you had to split it between demand and cancellations because of the late deliveries I'd say its probably 50 50, that's our that's our best analysis, and whereas a year ago with a completely different environment. Our wholesale customers were scrambling for goods I still remember one of our largest customer.

Is anything <unk> got this was a year ago as soon as anything that got because anything you send us is selling like it's free that's what the environment was a year ago.

This year, it's more if you're late.

Low tolerance for being away, maybe a week or two late fine, but if you're if you're more than a week or two later they are basically saying listen hang onto it in this time of year, especially as we're in the homestretch the weeks of selling or fewer for fall products. So if you are late on fall product.

They're more likely to say hey don't need it.

Hang on to it and we'll bring it back next year so.

Late shipments probably 50 50 50 in terms of visibility into next year, I would say by and large our wholesale customers are approaching at least the first half of next year cautiously and we had a couple of top to top meetings in recent weeks and Thats they've shared with us their experiences are similar to ours, so they're going to approach next year.

Cautiously and we would expect that there would be lower wholesale demand in the first half of next year, we don't have visibility into the second half, but we will probably have a better visibility when we update you in February what we think is possible in the second half of the year, but we are we are assuming that wholesale demand will be lower in the first half of next year.

And is there anything within referenced you referenced markdowns are key part I think it's important part this whole pack and hold strategy.

Which worked beautifully for us in 2020, one so when all of the stores closed in 'twenty, we packed and held well over $100 million of inventory beautiful inventory entire seasons all of the summer 2020 was packed and held and brought back and sold at very good margins in summer 2021, and we just held onto spring longer.

That's usually has not been our way of doing business, but.

In light of the kind of.

Historic disruption, we said lets try something new and different and our teams did an outstanding job working through that product profitably in 'twenty, one which enabled record profitability last year when business slowed this year, we started to pack and hold today, we probably have better part of a $100 million.

Of inventory that's packed in health.

Be brought back next year and will just reduce next year's by Biosimilar dollar amount instead of buying new product. We're just going to take the product that's on the shelf now and sell through profitably. So the whole objective that we refer to as a margin preservation strategy. So there is no need to markdowns beautiful product that we put so much thought into and brought it from the other side of the world.

<unk> to throw it on the clearance rack will bring it back next year will lower next year's buys and we'll sell through this product in 2023 that we packed and help just like we did successfully in 2021.

Thanks, Mike sure you're.

Welcome.

Thank you and our final question for today, one moment for our final question.

Our final question for today comes from the line of Chris Nardone from Bank of America. Your question. Please.

Hey, guys. Good morning, Thanks for taking my questions.

Can you talk about any proactive measures you've taken this year to cut back on some of your variable cost spending and how should we think about that potentially coming back as we head into next year.

Chris I would say all of the usual suspects have been on the table and it had been managed well by our teams given the lower demand local lower unit volumes of our Dcs have worked very hard to lower the labor in the Dcs relative to the unit volume Thats going through our store labor has been ratcheted back to match to match the level.

All of sales are doing at the moment I'd say beyond that though it's really the fixed costs of this business, which are high particularly in the direct to consumer part of the business.

It's been a challenge just given the lower level of level of sales. So our objective is to stay as lean as possible and not add to that fixed cost structure, where we need to we will have our balancing what we believe is going to be a very strong recovery over time, we don't want to be so draconian and cutting back on spending that way harm the business for the long run that's what we're managing to we're managing to have this business be here for.

Another 150 plus years, but we are staying extremely lean on the things that we can control in this environment. We are being very disciplined on inventory I think the team's done a great job responding to the lowered outlook for demand and realigning our our commitments for inventory, we're being very judicious on adding additional staff to the business.

Both of those variable cost centers and and in our offices. The best thing. We can do is just not kind of had a head of ourselves, but everything's on the table for review, we're looking at technology projects.

Marketing of everything that our big cost centers are subject to review and that's going to serve us well and will be I think good position once that once the marketplace starts to recover again.

Okay, great and if I can squeeze in one quick follow up.

Any notable trends of trade down activity in your category or are you, even seeing consumers just trading into smaller baskets within your own retail channel clean.

There is a pullback in spend but just if you could provide a little bit more color that'd be really helpful.

A couple of things I think.

There is there has been some strength of private label business as we've seen that our business is still very good at the exclusive brands as well, but theres a little bit of that going on and I think the other thing is folks are shopping they're coming to us, but between what they're paying for food and gasoline or whatever in the overall inflation, they're buying less units and that's probably the main thing is that the average check is.

As a certain amount, but the unit volume the number of units per transaction is certainly down so she she's buying her she's by five T shirts now she's by four that's kind of what we're seeing so that's the that's a differentiation I would say from a bass for the passes bang exactly what they need and not not what they want versus what Mike said before.

Got it thank you best of luck.

Thank you.

Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program I'd like to hand, the program back to Mr. Casey for any further remarks, thanks very much well. Thank you all for joining us on the call. This morning, we look forward to updating you again on our progress and best wishes to all of you and your families wishes to all of you and your families over the holidays goodbye everyone.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program you may now disconnect good day.

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