Q4 2022 Optical Cable Corp Earnings Call

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Good morning, My name is Chelsea and I will be your conference operator today.

At this time I would like to welcome you to the optical cable Corporation fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 earnings Conference call.

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The speakers remarks, there will be a question and answer period.

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Mr. Palash, you may begin your conference.

Thank you Chelsea.

Good morning, and thank you all for participating on optical cable Corporation's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 conference call.

By this time, everyone should have a copy of the earnings press release issued earlier today.

You can also visit www dot occ's fiber dot com for a copy.

On the call with US today are Neil Wilkin, President and Chief Executive Officer of OCC and.

And Tracy Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Before we begin I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties.

The actual factual results futures or actual future results of optical cable corporation may differ materially due to a number of factors and risks, including but not limited to those factors referenced in the forward looking statements section of this morning's press release.

These cautionary statements apply to the contents of the Internet webcast on www Dot OCC fiber dotcom as well as today's call.

With that I'll turn the call over to Neil Wilkin Neil Please begin.

Thank you Erin and good morning, everyone.

I will begin the call today with a few opening remarks Tracy will then review the fourth quarter and full year results for the three month and 12 month periods ending October 31, 2022, and some additional detail.

After Tracy's remarks, we will answer as many of your questions as we can.

As is our normal practice, we only take questions from analysts and institutional investors during the Q&A session. However, we also offer other shareholders the opportunity to submit questions in advance of our earnings call.

Instructions regarding such submissions are included in our press release announcing the date and time of our call today.

In fiscal year 2022, our OCC team executed well and theyre involved evolving marketplace, focusing on initiatives to grow and demonstrating occ's strength and resilience in the process.

I'm pleased to report that our net sales and results from operating activities significantly improved during every quarter of fiscal year 2022 compared to the respective prior year periods.

Our sales and production volumes grew even as we experienced the lingering direct and indirect impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic on our supply chain, including the availability of materials increased lead times and increased cost and labor constraints, including recruitment of sufficient production personnel and <unk>.

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We are particularly pleased with our strong finish to the fiscal year and the results we achieved during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022, specifically.

Specifically, we delivered double digit percentage growth in net sales and gross profit.

The highest gross profit margin.

Of any quarter.

Our fiscal 2022, and net income of $1 $2 million or <unk> 15, a share.

I'm incredibly grateful.

For the OCC team members and their dedication and tireless efforts this past year, the resilience perseverance and hard work of enabled OCC.

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I'd like to extend my sincere and continued thank you to every member of the OCC team and their families.

Our successful execution of our ongoing initiatives are reflected in Occ's financial performance. This past year, we delivered strong sales growth.

Net sales for fiscal year, 2022 increased 16, 8% compared to fiscal year 2021.

We delivered net sales growth year over year during every quarter of fiscal year 2022, and ended fiscal year 2022, with net sales of $21 million during the fourth quarter, an increase of 26, 3% compared to the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2021.

We believe that the demand of our products continues to be robust and we are poised to build on our momentum.

Our sales order backlog forward load was.

It was approximately three to four times higher than typical levels throughout fiscal year 2022.

We improved gross profit and gross profit margin during fiscal year 2022, as a result of increased production improved efficiencies and strong operating leverage.

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The team achieved gross profit of $20 5 million for fiscal year 2022, an increase of 26% compared to the prior year gross profit margin increased during the year as well and we finished the year with a gross profit margin of 33% during the fourth quarter.

These significant improvements were achieved through increased production volumes successful execution of efficiency initiatives in our operating leverage and fixed product costs were spread over higher production volumes.

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We successfully added new production team members during the second half of the year.

Many of whom finish their training as we ended the year.

As material and personnel cost increased we were able to pass on necessary price increases on new orders to recover associated increased cost with a greater positive impact being realized during the fourth quarter.

As sales backlog orders received earlier in the year were filled at original agreed upon prices.

We continue to focus on operating efficiency as efficiently as possible and controlling expenses.

Including SG&A expenses during fiscal 2022.

Our fixed SG&A costs are.

Our fixed SG&A expenses, including public company costs are substantial and as net sales grow our SG&A expenses tend to increase at a slower rate than sales SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales were 28, 9% during fiscal year 2022 down from 38%.

During fiscal year, 2021, and 25, 9%.

During the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2022.

These results were possible as a result of our successful efforts to operate efficiency efficiently and control costs as well as a result of our operating leverage.

OCC remains uniquely positioned in the fiber optic copper cabling and connectivity industry with differentiated core strengths and capabilities that enable OCC to offer top tier products and application solutions and to compete successfully against larger competitors.

Occ's core strengths and capabilities, our competitive advantage of our company and I'd like to take a moment to mention them.

OCC has inevitable has enviable.

Market positions brand recognition as well as the loyalty of our real estate and.

And our relationships with customers decision makers, and then users across a broad range of targeted markets.

We benefit from our wide range of fiber optic and copper cabling and connectivity products and solutions that enable us to deliver products and solutions to meet our customers' unique needs and that are well suited for the applications in our targeted markets. The range of Occ's products off product offerings is extensive with OCC often successfully.

Going up against different competitors and are very markets targeted markets.

Additionally, we have a broad and diverse geographic footprint with OCC selling into approximately 50 countries each year.

Importantly, as SEC also has extensive industry experience and experience and expertise with our engineering sales and business development teams well respected for their product and application experience and expertise that enables OCC to create its portfolio of innovative high performance products and associate.

Intellectual property.

And finally, OCC has impressive manufacturing knowledge and experience.

Of our manufacturing quality and engineering teams and the <unk>.

And the significant production capability capacity of our facilities.

Many of the costs, we incur to maintain and build upon our strengths and capabilities along with our public company costs are fixed.

Those costs are included in the cost of goods sold line or in the SG&A line on our statement of operations as a result, as OCC grows net sales gross profit and profitability tend to increase at a faster rate than the rate of increase of net sales.

This creates strong operating leverage for the company as fixed production costs and fixed SG&A expenses remain relatively stable at a spread over higher net sales levels.

We remain committed to leveraging our core strengths and capabilities and executing our strategies and initiatives to create long term value for our shareholders.

Looking ahead to fiscal year 2023, we are optimistic about occ's opportunities encouraged by our strong sales order backlog forward load.

And are excited to build on our momentum.

We continue to be focused on executing our strategy to meet demand and capture additional growth opportunities at the same time, we are monitoring changing macroeconomic trends and believe we are prepared to make appropriate business adjustments as necessary as 2023 unfolds.

We remain confident that we are well positioned to capture growth opportunities execute on opportunities to operate more efficiently and deliver enhanced value to shareholders in fiscal year 2023 and beyond.

And with that I'll turn the call over to Tracy, who will review and additional detail our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 financial results.

Thank you Neil.

Consolidated net sales for fiscal 2022 increased 16, 8% to $69 $1 million compared to net sales of $59 1 million for fiscal year 2021.

Consolidated net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 increased 26, 3% to $21 million compared to net sales of $15 $9 million for the same period last year.

We experienced an increase in net sales in both the enterprise and specialty markets, including the wireless carrier market during the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022, compared to the same periods last year.

We believe the increase in net sales is primarily due to both increased demand for our product and increased production throughput as well as increases in product pricing taking effect for new orders.

During fiscal year 2022, we continue to see product demand and sales and production volume increase compared to fiscal year 2021.

Our sales order backlog and forward load has been approximately three to four times higher than typical levels throughout the fiscal year as product demand continues to be robust.

Our sales order backlog and forward led exceeded $12 million at the end of fiscal year 2022, and there is a bit higher since the end of the fiscal year exceeding $14 million.

At the same time, we believe continuing and lingering direct and indirect impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic have created challenges that have affected production volumes and sales despite increased demand.

Our production volumes continued to be tempered during fiscal year 2022, as we continued to experience supply chain challenges for certain raw materials as well as challenges recruiting additional personnel.

Turning to gross profit our gross profit increased 26% to $25 million in fiscal 2022 compared to gross profit of $16 $3 million in fiscal 2021.

Gross profit margin increased to 29, 7% in fiscal 2022 compared to 27, 5% in fiscal 2021.

Gross profit increased 31% to $6 $6 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to gross profit of $5 $1 million for the same period last year.

Gross profit margin increased to 33% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to 31, 8% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021.

Gross profit margins during fiscal year 2022 were impacted by increases in production labor and material costs offset by necessary perspective price increases on new sales orders for many of our products.

We experienced improvement in production personnel recruitment during the second half of fiscal year 2022 needed to increase production capacity to meet existing product demand. However, training of new production employees impacts labor costs and production volumes until that is employees are fully trained and operating at capacity.

Our gross profit margins tend to be higher when we achieve higher net sales levels as certain fixed manufacturing costs are spread over higher sales.

This operating leverage which is beneficial at higher sales levels positively impacted our gross profit margins in both the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022.

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SG&A expenses increased to $20 million during fiscal 2022 compared to $18 2 million for fiscal 2021.

SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales were 28, 9% in fiscal 2022 compared to 38% in fiscal 2021.

SG&A expenses increased to $5 $2 million during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to $4 $8 million for the same period last year.

SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales were 25, 9% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to 33% in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021.

The increase in SG&A expenses during the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 was primarily the result of increases in employee and contracted sales personnel related costs.

Included in employee and contracted sales personnel related costs, our commissions, which increased due to the increase in net sales new hires net of terminations and increases in compensation expense, including increases in response to changing labor market conditions.

When compared to the same periods last year.

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OCC recorded a net loss of $347000 or five cents per basic and diluted share for fiscal 2022 compared to net income of $6 $6 million or <unk> 87 per basic and diluted share for fiscal 2021.

Our recorded net income of $1 $2 million or 15 cents.

Our basic and diluted share for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to a net loss of $6000 or no cents per basic and diluted share for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021.

As of October 31, 2022, we had outstanding borrowings of $6 million on our revolver and $5 $9 million in available credit.

Also had outstanding loan balances of $4 5 million under our real estate term loans.

With that I'll turn the call back over to Neil.

Thank you Tracy.

And now if any analysts and institutional investors have any questions. We are happy to answer them.

I'll see if you could please indicate the instructions for participants to call in any questions. They may have I would appreciate it again, we are only taking live questions from analysts and institutional investors.

Yes, Sir.

A reminder, that is star one on your telephone keypad to ask a question.

If you would like to remove yourself from the queue that is star Q.

Once again that is star one to ask a question and we'll pause for a moment to allow questions to queue.

Our first question will come from Michael Jones with WCS globally.

Your line is open.

Hi, good morning.

Can you spend some time trying to quantify or help us quantify what the price increases were what you expect price increases to be.

Whether it be by segment or product lines and also how much of the revenue growth was price versus unit volume I missed the first couple of minutes of the call. So you can tell that I apologize, but I would like to hear the answer.

I appreciate the question.

Don't give specifics about our price increases other than what we announce them.

And the industry, we made a couple of price increases sort of midyear, but they werent really taking effect until later in the year.

Most of it mostly impacted the fourth quarter.

I don't believe that that significantly increased our sales dollar numbers.

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The price increases vary depending on product type and what we're seeing from a material standpoint and were really based on making sure we'll be recovering that cost.

And I think that really is the best I can tell you I don't have a percentage, saying that this is what the exact impact was on sales and.

We didn't see it as a significant during the year.

Are you getting much pushback on price and do you think you're ahead or behind on price at this point at least in general.

We believe we're right, where we need to be and we have not been receiving pushback on price.

Okay.

I think typically in our industry people have been able have been able to have needed to and are able to increase the prices to recover the increased costs that are have been occurring within the supply chain.

So is there still a lot of inventory that needs to be repriced as it goes out so there will be some.

Excess margin there.

Not really.

What's what happened during the year was we were seeing demand and getting backlogs. We also had some challenges in supply chain and getting materials. We did our best to try to get the materials and as we could but not really get any.

Continually increasing price I mean, the prices were increasing as we are buying them, but I don't see those prices continuing to increase at least at the moment.

And so while we've increased our raw materials, a bit and you'll see that in our form.

10-K in the annual report that will be filed later.

That's not that we don't have a lot of sort of built in profit.

Sitting or unusual profit sitting in the materials, we have on on hand, I would not describe.

Describe it that way we've also been focusing on trying to make sure. We're keeping up with the demand we have been experiencing which is the part of the reason why our backlog has been back.

Backlog sales orders have been have been high.

The unusual all during the year.

What's the current book to Bill.

I'm sorry, what.

The book to Bill as far as kind of.

Bookings over so.

I don't have that precise percentage, but.

We've described what the dollar number is.

Our filing.

Filing that will maybe making later today. So you can see that described in the MD&A.

Okay and will be an opportunity to follow up on that once it is filed with further questions or investor relations effort.

Quite core middle East, so kind of have some contact or some insights on follow up questions would be helpful. Any thoughts on that.

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Investor Relations firm I think they've done a good job I think for us.

We try to be as responsive as we can to shareholders. We're also very careful to make sure. We're compliant with Reg FD and not disclosing something to one shareholder that we're not making public to others. So we can generally totally totally that's totally understandable.

There seems to be no effort too.

Contact shareholders I don't know, if you talked to <unk> or not but.

Getting information or responses even.

Even if you said I can't talk to you that would be helpful. But they get nothing from the IR firm or from you.

It's frustrating as it leases are shareholders on the other.

Scott.

What is that.

I apologize for that and we're happy to to do.

Better to return your call. If I didn't think that we were had a call from you that hadn't been returned but my apologies.

Okay I appreciate it.

What's the draw on our revolver.

Yeah.

That'll be disclosed in our everything that we can disclose about that as disclosed in our annual report, which will be disclosed and filed later hopefully today.

Alright, Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder that is star one to ask a question.

We have no more questions via the telephone I would like to turn it back over to Neil.

Thank you Chelsea I appreciate it.

I would like to thank everyone for listening to our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 conference call today as always we appreciate your time and your interest in optical cable Corporation.

We hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday season. Thank you.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference and we appreciate your participation you may disconnect at any time.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Q4 2022 Optical Cable Corp Earnings Call

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