Q4 2022 Enact Holdings Inc Earnings Call

Speaker 2: market close yesterday contain our financial results for the fourth quarter of 2022, along with a comprehensive set of financial and operational metrics.

Speaker 3: These are available on the Vester Relations section of the company's website at www.ir.enactimi.com under the section marked quarterly results.

Speaker 4: Today's call is being recorded and will include the use of forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current assumptions, estimates, expectations, and projections as of today's date and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to be materially different.

Speaker 5: We undertake no obligation to update or revise any such statements as a result of new information. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please review the cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements in today's press release, as well as in our filings with the FCC, which will be available on our website.

Speaker 6: Please keep in mind the earnings materials and management's prepared remarks today include certain non- GAAP measures .

Speaker 7: Reconciliation of these measures to the most relevant gap metrics can be found on the press release. Our earnings presentation and our upcoming SEC filing on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rohit.

Speaker 8: Thank you, Daniel. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and full-year results.

Speaker 9: 2022 was an exceptional year for an act in which we delivered record performance, achieved several new milestones and generated a total shareholder return well ahead of the market.

Speaker 10: We ended the year with record insurance in force of $248 billion, driven by rising persistency that reached 86% in the fourth quarter, and new insurance written off $66 billion for the full year.

Speaker 11: Net income for the full year was a record $700-4 million or $4.31 per deleted share up 28% from a year ago and return on equity was 14%.

Speaker 12: These results are the product of the continued execution of our cycle-tested growth and risk management strategy and reflect the commitment, hard work, and talent of EnAct employees.

Speaker 13: I'd like to thank all of them for their continued focus and dedication.

Speaker 14: As I mentioned, we achieved several significant milestones in 2022, reflecting progress against all our specs of our strategy.

Speaker 15: We strengthened our value proposition and ability to compete and win new business.

Speaker 16: Our investments in innovative, technology-driven tools and solutions have further differentiated our platform while also driving efficiency and enhancing decision-making.

Speaker 17: We've seen several benefits from these investments across our business, including improved underwriting efficiency and deepened understanding of lay address.

Speaker 18: One of our stated goals at our IPO was to expand and deepen our customer relationships, and I'm pleased to say that we made meaningful progress.

Speaker 19: Supported by our investments in the business and our enhanced financial flexibility, we have either activated or increased our new business share with 80% of our target customers since our IPO.

Speaker 20: And the team is committed to building on this momentum in the new year.

Speaker 21: We continue to take actions to maintain our financial strength, flexibility and a strong balance sheet.

Speaker 22: We ended the year with PMARS sufficiency of 165%.

Speaker 23: We continued to execute against our credit risk transfer strategy and completed three Excess of Loss Reinsurance transactions to manage our overall risk, demonstrating our ability to source cost-effective PMOS capital and loss protection in a period of capital markets volatility and widening spread.

Speaker 24: And in July , we received our second upgrade from Moody's Synthover IPO, recognizing our performance and the strength and flexibility of our balance sheet.

Speaker 25: Finally, we believe that as of the end of 2022, EnAct and Genworth have fully met all the conditions necessary to remove the restrictions placed on EnAct by the GSC.

Speaker 26: As a result of this significant milestone and upon confirmation from the GSEs, we expect the GSE restrictions on an Act will be lifted, a step that will further enhance our financial flexibility and elevate our competitiveness by no longer making us subject to more stringent capital requirements than our peer group.

Speaker 27: In addition to investing in our growth, we remain focused on discipline cost management and our expense levels for 2022 were below our target of $240 million.

Speaker 28: as part of our discipline focus and to ensure our operations are aligned with current market dynamic.

Speaker 29: During the fourth quarter, we affected a voluntary separation program and renegotiated our shared services agreement expenses with general.

Speaker 30: We remain committed to cost discipline and operational excellence, particularly in response to a market environment that remains uncertain and are currently targeting expense levels in 2023 below what we achieved in 2022.

Speaker 31: Dean will have more to stay on this during his comments.

Speaker 32: Now, let me turn to Capital allocation.

where our strong execution and even thus to achieve our capital return commitment for the year.

Through the initiation of our regular quarterly dividend and our special cash dividend in December , we returned just over 250 million to shareholders over the course of 2022.

In November , we also announced the boards of approval of $75 million share repurchase program.

Taken together, these actions reflect the strength of our balance sheet, the sustainability of our cash flows, the confidence we have in our business, and our commitment to create value for our shareholders.

I'd now like to touch on our solid fork water which gave the strong ear for an act.

While we have seen a slowdown in housing activity, the fundamentals of our business remains resilient.

As I mentioned earlier, insurance and force reached a new record and we wrote $15 billion of N.R.W. Inclusive of a one-time season deal in the fourth quarter.

Excluding this theme, NIW was marginally lower sequentially in a smaller market, suggesting an ad gain share in the fourth quarter.

As we have previously commented on, market share across the industry fluctuates quarter to quarter largely driven by rate engine variation.

We are pleased with our NW performance and it reflects the strength of our platform and our ability to win new business, expand relationships and deliver value to our customers.

The pricing environment also remained constructed. During the quarter, we saw an increase in industry pricing and we implemented several price increases on new business and we have continued these actions into the first quarter as well.

We are confident in our ability to continue to write new insurance written that generates attractive risk adjusted returns and value for shareholders.

As I've discussed previously, persistency is a natural hedge in our business and tends to increase as interest rates rise and new mortgage originations fall.

Persistency again improved during the fourth quarter reaching 86%.

At the end of the quarter, 98% of mortgages in our portfolio had raised at least 50 basis points below current market rates, and we expect this dynamic to continue to support persistency moving forward.

Higher persistency and new insurance levels have driven record insurance enforce, which has continued to be a tailwind, as the business benefits from increased duration without a corresponding increase in cost.

Our delinquency rate in the fourth quarter was stable and consistent with pre-pandemic level.

Importantly, 90% of the link when she's had an estimated 20% or more of market equity.

Ever to date home price depreciation, our approach to risk management and loss mitigation, and the favorable resolution of long-term forbearance plans resulted in the net release of an additional $42 million of reserves in the fourth quarter, leading to a loss ratio of 8 percent. In T

As we did last quarter, we continue to take a prudent view on loss reserves with careful consideration given to the uncertain macro environment and any other factors which may affect the future credit performance within the portfolio.

I believe it is a student for us to be well-reserved in this uncertain environment.

The credit quality of our portfolio remains healthy, and while the broader housing market has slowed, we believe overall underwriting quality remains favorable.

On an insurance enforced basis, the weighted average 5% score in our portfolio during the quarter was 743. The average loan to value ratio was 93%, and our layered risk was 1.4% of risk in force.

I'd like to now speak about the economic environment and housing market and how we are thinking about these factors in relation to our business moving forward.

Overall, we believe we are well positioned for 2023 and beyond, though a smaller MI market is expected and uncertainty remains in the near term.

While employment and household balance sheets are healthy, inflation, rising borrow cost and the possibility of a recession pose risk.

Households have started to draw down the buffers of savings that had accumulated during the pandemic and revolving credit card balances have increased.

That said, revolving balances and household savings are both still favorable to pre-pandemic levels and the labor market is strong.

And as we look to the housing market, we see strong, long-term demand driven by demographics surrounding first-time home buyers and housing supply that remains tight, which is supported to crisis.

These factors are constructive for the MI industry and mortgage insurance is an important tool to help buyers qualify for a mortgage especially in an environment of lower affordability.

So while the near-term outlook is uncertain, we are confident in the long-term foundational strength of the MI industry.

Against this backdrop, we will continue to execute on our cycle-tested strategy, prudently investing in our capabilities, taking the appropriate actions to align our costs and operations with the market environment, pursuing new business that appropriately balances risk and reward, and ensuring we maintain the financial strength and flexibility of our customers.

to both support our policy holders and create value for our shareholders. Our performance in 2022 is evidence that we have the right plan and people in place to achieve our goals.

I'd like to now comment on the actions the FHFA has announced over the last few months pertaining to the elimination of upfront fees for certain borrowers and affordable mortgage

These actions represent an important step in facilitating equitable and sustainable access to home ownership.

We continue to be encouraged by the FHFA's support of core mission borrowers and believe the spirit of these changes is consistent with our mission at an act to help people responsibly achieve and maintain the dream of homo-nation.

Before I close, I would like to note that beyond our financial performance, we have been and will be committed to making a difference.

We have spoken in the past of our mission to help those who might otherwise not be able to achieve the dream of homeownership. And in 2022, we have helped 192,000 homebuyers qualify for a mortgage.

In addition, this year we were awarded the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Residential Leadership Award from the Mortgage Bankers Association.

demonstrating our leadership and increasing diversity in the mortgage industry, and making homeownership more accessible for underrepresented communities.

We also have formed new partnerships and created innovative recruiting programs that will help address the minority Homo-Naship gap and bring diverse talent into mortgage finance.

These examples are part of our longstanding commitment to strong ESG principles.

We recently published our ESG Roadmap which lays out our priorities and approach to environmental, social and governance issues.

We will have more to say on this front as the year progresses with the publishing of our inaugural ESG report in the first half of 2023.

In closing, our business fundamentals remain solid and while near term dynamics are uncertain, we believe the long-term drivers of demand remain in place.

Going forward, we will continue to execute and maintain the financial strength and flexibility needed to navigate and succeed in this environment.

Overall, I believe we remain well positioned to achieve our goals and continue creating value for all our stakeholders.

I will now turn it over to Dean.

Thanks Rohit, good morning everyone. We delivered another solid quarter and an exceptional year of performance.

Gap net income was $144 million or $0.88 per diluted share as compared to $0.94 per diluted share in the same period last year and $1.17 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2022.

Return on equity with approximately 14%.

Adjusted operating income was $147 million, or 90 cents per diluted share, as compared to 94 cents per diluted share in the same period last year, and $1.17 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2022.

Adjusted operating return on equity was approximately 14.4%.

For the full year, GAAP net income was $704 million, or $4.31 per diluted share, compared to $547 million, or $3.36 per diluted share in 2021.

Adjust the operating income for 2022 totaled $7008 million.

or $4.34 per diluted share compared to $551 million or $3.38 per diluted share in 2021.

Turning to key revenue drivers, new insurance written was 15 billion in the fourth quarter compared to 15 billion in the third quarter as well, and 21 billion in the fourth quarter of 2021.

NIW in the quarter included a one-time season transaction totaling $620 million.

Excluding this opportunistic transaction, NIW decreased 4% sequentially and 32% versus the prior year.

driven primarily by lower mortgage originations resulting from the recent increase in interest rates.

New insurance written for purchase transactions made up 97% of our total NIW in the quarter, flat to last quarter.

In addition, monthly payment policies made up 91% of our quarterly new insurance written, down from 94% last quarter primarily driven by the one-time transaction.

The overall credit risk profile of our new insurance rhythm remains strong, with loans that are underwritten to prudent market standards.

Rohit discussed the natural hedge that persistency provides in our business model.

With rising interest rates, persistency increased again during the fourth quarter to 86% up from 82% last quarter and 69% in the fourth quarter of 2021.

Persistency reached an annualized rate of 87% in December .

Given the expectation that interest rates will remain elevated in the short term, we expect to see continued strength and persistency levels, which is a positive for the future profitability of our Enforce insurance portfolio.

Insurance and force increased 10% in 2022 and 3% sequentially to a new record of $248 billion.

driven by the combination of 66 billion of new insurance written and increased persistency.

A base premium rate of 41 basis points was down 0.7 basis points sequentially and down 2.4 basis points year over year, which is favorable to the guidance we provided in 2022.

As we've noted before, changes to base premium rate are impacted by a variety of factors and can deviate from quarter to quarter, which makes precise estimation difficult, which is especially true in a period of heightened economic uncertainty.

As a result, we will not be providing guidance yet on our base premium rate trajectory for 2023.

However, we do expect the change to be less than the 2022 decrease of 2.4 basis points.

In addition to changes in base premium rate, our net earned premium rate also reflected lower single premium cancellations sequentially and year over year.

For the quarter, single premium cancellations contributed only $2 million of net earned premium.

limiting its potential for meaningful future dilution.

Over the past several quarters, our net earned premium rate has been the highest in the industry, driven partially by our efficient CRT program.

Total revenues were down 2% year over year in 2022, ending at approximately $1.1 billion.

Revenues for the quarter were 277 million compared to 275 million last quarter and 273 million in the same period last year.

Net premiums earned were $233 million, down 1% sequentially, and down 2% year over year.

The flight decline in net premiums earned reflected the lapse of older higher price policies and as compared to our new insurance written as well as the decline in single premium cancellations and modestly higher seeded premiums year over year as we continue to prudently manage our risk through our credit risk transfer program. Investment income in the fourth quarter was

as our new money yield for the quarter increased to above 6%.

As of year-end, unrealized losses in our investment portfolio decreased by $56 million to $487 million.

Unless we identify opportunities to create long-term value within the portfolio, we do not expect to realize these losses.

as we can hold the securities to maturity where market values trend to par value.

Turning to credit, losses in the quarter were 18 million as compared to a benefit of 40 million last quarter and a provision of 6 million in the 4th quarter of 2021.

Our loss ratio for the quarter was 8% as compared to negative 17% last quarter and 3% in the 4th quarter of 2021.

Losses and loss ratio in the quarter were driven by favorable pure performance on 2021 and prior delinquencies.

which were above our prior expectations and resulted in a 63 million reserve release in the quarter.

This was partially offset by 21 million of reserve strengthening on 2022 delinquencies and incurred but not reported reserves as we take prudent action in response to the increased economic uncertainty.

For the year, losses were a benefit of $94 million compared to $125 million in 2021.

New delinquencies increase by approximately 1,200 sequentially to 10,300 from 9,100.

This increase was driven in part by the impact of approximately 750 new delinquencies from natural disasters in FEMA impacted areas in the current quarter.

Seasonality, coupled with higher new delinquencies from recent large books that are aging and going through their normal loss development pattern also contributed.

Excluding the impact of new delinquencies from natural disasters, our new delinquency rate for the quarter was 1%, consistent with pre-pandemic levels, and reflective of the continuation of positive credit trends.

Our claim rate estimate on new delinquencies is approximately 10% for the quarter.

Absent new delinquencies related to natural disasters, all 2022 new delinquencies are booked at an approximate 10% claim rate, reflecting our prudent and measured approach to reserving as a result of the heightened economic uncertainty.

Total delinquencies in the fourth quarter were approximately 19,900.

Excluding delinquencies from natural disasters, the associated delinquency rate was 2%, which is stabilizing near pre-pandemic levels.

The embedded equity position of our delinquent policies remains substantial with approximately 90% of our delinquent sees at the end of the quarter having an estimated 20% or more marked to market equity using an index-based House price assessment.

As I've noted in the past, this can help mitigate the frequency of claims and the potential future loss for delinquencies that ultimately progress to claims.

Turning to expenses, operating expenses in the fourth quarter were $63 million and the expense ratio was 27% versus $58 million and 25% respectively in the third quarter of 2022 and $59 million and 25% respectively in the fourth quarter of 2021.

For the full year, operating expenses totaled $239 million.

As Rohit stated, we initiated a voluntary separation program during the fourth quarter that resulted in a restructuring charge of $3 million, which is excluded from our adjusted operating income and represents a 1% point impact in quarterly expense ratio.

In addition, we renegotiated the existing shared services agreement with Genworth as we continue to migrate additional activities to enact.

By agreement, we paid $25 million to Genworth for services in 2022, and we were scheduled to pay $20 million and $15 million respectively in 2023 and 2024.

These amounts have been revised to $15 million and $12.5 million respectively.

in 2023 and 2024.

While we are still operating in an inflationary environment, our initiatives and ongoing focus on operating efficiency and cost reduction position us to target 2023 operating expenses of $225 million, which represents a 6% annual cost reduction from 2022.

Moving to capital and liquidity, our PMIRES sufficiency remained very strong in the quarter at 165%, or approximately $2.1 billion above the published PMIRES requirements, compared to 174%, or approximately $2.2 billion in the third quarter of 2022.

At quarter end, we had approximately $1.6 billion of PMIRES capital credit and approximately $8 billion of lost coverage provided by our credit risk transfer program.

Approximately 89 percent of our risk and force is covered by our credit risk transfer program.

As Rohit touched on earlier, Genworth and Enoch believe we have satisfied the required financial conditions and ratings requirements for the elimination of the GSE restrictions first imposed on Enoch with respect to capital after the issuance of our August 2020 Senior Notes.

If confirmed by the GSEs, we will no longer be subject to GSE conditions and restrictions.

While these restrictions were largely redundant to our current and prior PMIRES sufficiency levels, elimination of these restrictions will allow for greater financial flexibility and further enhance our competitive position.

This matter is detailed on our prior disclosures and we would direct you to the disclosure for additional information on the conditions and restrictions.

Starting now to capital allocation, we continue to execute against our capital prioritization framework during the period, including our commitment to returning capital to share ourselves, although we all agree.

In the fourth quarter, we paid a special cash dividend of $183 million, along with our $23 million regular quarterly dividend.

We also initiated a $75 million share repurchase program designed to balance the return of capital to the shareholders with an overall program size that is tailored to an ex-float.

As of January 31, 2023, repurchases under the program have totaled $8 million.

During the quarter, Emico, our primary mortgage insurance operating company, completed a distribution of $242 million to our holding company, Enact Holdings, Inc., to bolster its financial flexibility and support our ability to return capital to shareholders as planned.

Overall, we returned over $250 million of capital to shareholders in 2022.

Let me close by saying that I am very pleased with our performance in both the fourth quarter and the year.

We've executed against our strategy and generated strong results in an uncertain environment.

Going forward, we remain focused on maintaining the financial and operational flexibility to adapt to market conditions as necessary, and realize the opportunities we see ahead while prudently managing our risk.

The strength of our business, strategy, and balance sheet position us to continue creating value for our shareholders.

With that, I'll turn it back to Rohit.

Thanks, Dean. We are pleased with the performance we delivered in 2022 and are proud of the value we created for all of our stakeholders.

As we enter the first quarter of 2023, we remain confident in our business.

With a more resilient portfolio, a strong balance sheet, and significant credit risk for the region, we are well positioned for both the near and long term.

in an uncertain time.

We and the M.I. industry more broadly continue to play a critical part in supporting families and the many other stakeholders in the housing sector.

We are incredibly proud of this and will continue to seek opportunities to contribute to the safety and soundness of the industry going forward.

Operator, we are now ready for Q&A.

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1 1 again. One moment while we compile the Q&A roster.

And todayís first question will come from the line of Doug Harter with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. velocity is not correct.

I'm hoping you could talk a little bit more about the relief from the PMIRES extra charge that you've been carrying. Does that change to what you think about capital return in 2023 or going forward?

Yeah, Doug, thanks for the question. Like we said in our prepared remarks, we believe we both Jen worth in an act believe we fully met the conditions. Necessary to lift those restrictions, they do need to be validated. By the GSC as well as. Uh, but once that happened.

You know, those we expect those restrictions to be lifted. You know, I think we talked about about those restrictions largely being redundant to our P, my sufficiency levels. When they went in place, so, you know, from our perspective, they were below any.

PMARS efficiency levels that we were going to hold just naturally in managing the business from a prudent balance sheet perspective. I think that same.

approach or same perspective also exists in the elimination of the restrictions. They're certainly not transformational in that they're not going to provide some windfall of release of capital that we would otherwise hold. They are.

useful in creating additional financial flexibility. We would say that flexibility is probably enhanced in times of heightened economic uncertainty and certainly in times of economic stress. That's how we're thinking about it.

And, you know, I think that's the appropriate approach. That's the only thing I'll add to that. I think we covered it pretty well. From a competitive perspective, it also puts us on a level playing field in terms of how other stakeholders look at us. So, this is a very good milestone for us and glad to be at this point.

Great. Thank you.

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Mahir Bhattia with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start by asking about the season and I, W that you mentioned this quarter. Can you provide any more detail on it? Like I think you mentioned was like, you know, a one time opportunistic deal, but like any more background or any color you can provide on it. Was this a competitive process? Was this?

lender had been holding these loans on their portfolio for a period of time. So two-thirds of the deal was more than one year seasoned and we disclosed the magnitude of the deal in our disclosures and essentially they were looking for loss coverage and capital coverage and to the best of our knowledge there were several MI companies that were involved in the process and at the end of the day

our relationships, our value proposition, as well as our capital strength made us win the deal. We do expect that to be a one-time deal. These are not very frequent transactions in this current environment. Most portfolio lenders actually ensure their high LTV mortgages on a regular flow basis.

But we thought from a transparency perspective, it was worthwhile to spike that out. Right. Sorry, just one follow up. So these were still high LTV loans that they were looking to ensure.

That's right. These were high LTV loans at origination and we found attractive return and the portfolio itself basically was within our credit policy so everything aligned for us.

Okay, and if I can just ask one follow up, you know, you're at a 14% ROE, right? Is that around where we should expect? Like what are you underwriting to? Are you underwriting generally to hire lower? What I'm trying to...

I guess, get at is, was this like a typical quarter understanding that you're going to have quarter to quarter variability going forward and a lot of it depends on the economic environment etc. But as we think about just the returns from the business, is this quarter more or less typical? Like you had some reserve release, you had some

reserved strengthening, you know, some parts moving around, but more or less, you know, run of the mill, this is what inact should be doing consistently. Or there are some additional puts and takes we should consider.

Yes, we're very good question. So let me start with the kind of a macro perspective and then have Dean Chiamin. I would say there are a lot of things going on in this quarter, including our reserve release, obviously impact up in trust rates on our investment portfolio that flows through and comes to that RWE.

But I would say the way we think about running the business in this environment is much more aligned with what we see in market conditions. So we have seen market conditions being more uncertain and as a result of that we have been talking about increasing our price for the last three quarters.

So you have seen us increase and stabilize our price from second quarter, third quarter, and this quarter. And I mentioned in my remarks that we saw higher frequency and a higher magnitude of those price increases. So I think when it comes to the new insurance written that we are adding, we are making sure that we are building a resilient portfolio for different economic scenarios. And that drove over action. upbeat music John October

So when you think about our pricing returns, we are not providing any specific guidance, but we do believe that we are writing business to create returns that are actually to share hold a value. Now from our balance sheet, ROE prospective, I'll have Dean Chyman in terms of whether this was normal or has some sense of abnormality in it. The only thing I'd say in here is you point.

continues to perform at elevated levels relative to those embedded in our in the establishment of our expectations that certainly could happen prospectively but I think just our mindset you know when we set reserves in a very prudent and measured way.

is thinking about how we expect those to develop over an ultimate time period on a best estimate basis.

Got it. Thank you for taking my questions. I'll get back in here.

Thank you. One moment for our next question.

We'll come from the line of Bose George with KBW. Your line is open.

Thank you. Good morning. Can you discuss the cadence of dividends this year? Will it be similar to last year with normal dividends

Yeah, thanks for the question. So, you know, I think thinking about dividends in terms of tools, you know, that we have at our disposal may be the. The most appropriate place to start, so we've obviously initiated the quarterly. Dividend our expectations those continue prospectively.

We also initiated the share repurchase program. That gives us a tool that's very opportunistic, both opportunistic based on valuation as well as opportunistic through time to return capital to shareholders. and then

will continue to evaluate special dividends at the end of years based on, you know, a combination of business performance as well as the prevailing macroeconomic environment. So I think, you know, the cadence we have is probably the cadence you'll see.

Subject to those dynamics playing out.

Okay, great. Thanks. And then the new notices in the FEMA disaster areas. Can you remind us how that the reserving for those works?

Sure. So, those are your questions in the context of PMIRES, or is your context in the context of reserves? The context of reserves, actually, yes.

Yeah, so we apply our best estimate of ultimate claim on FEMA designated delinquencies in the same manner, same approach that we do with any other delinquency. We do rely on our storm-related experience. You know, think about Harvey, Irma.

Superstorm Sandy, those types of storm related activity and how delinquencies have performed historically based on our experience. Our experience suggests that those will cure elevated rates and so our claim rates reflect that.

Okay, great. Thanks. Thank you. One moment for our next question.

And that will come from the line of Eric Hagen with BTIG. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks. Thanks. Good morning. Just one on new delinquencies, which are so low to begin with, but...

Would you say that there's any trends that you're spotting within those loans and that bucket of delinquencies? Is it unemployment? Is it some homeowners that could be underwater in some cases and how do you see that maybe developing from here? Do you want yourrequires?

Yeah, Eric. Thanks for the question. You know, I think consistent with our prepared remarks, you know, credit performance remains strong.

There's a lot of factors, I think, that support good credit performance, everything from the quality end-to-right, the strong credit quality of our insured loans, and then even the macroeconomic landscape that, despite the risk that Rohit referenced, remains pretty balanced in its current form with strong employment.

cumulative home price appreciation, and then meaningful household savings. All of that kind of goes into a mosaic that has been supportive of strong credit performance.

I do think the one thing that we have our eye on is we do have large new books.

that are aging through their normal loss development pattern, and that could increase new delinquencies heading into 2023. But at the end of the day, I think 2023 credit performance is gonna largely be driven by the macroeconomic environment.

So, you know, we have a keen eye towards that. And maybe more specifically, Eric, to your question, you know, we believe that future credit performance is going to be, you know, more highly correlated with unemployment during this part of the cycle.

and employment has remained strong to date. So, if you know what we're going to look at is the macro look at unemployment and if recessionary pressures emerge that have more significantly effect employment, you know, we'd expect some deterioration in the credit. You know, that would be ultimately impacted. How those...

think if the link with these increase as a result of those recessionary pressures, then we'd see how they ultimately progress the claim being impacted by cumulative home price appreciation and other loss mitigation activities that we employ during times of financial challenges.

So the only thing I'll add to the question or the answer is, can you just think about the environment we are operating in from a macro perspective, housing and consumer? I think we are in a very different place than where we used to be pre-global financial crisis. So the impact of home price appreciation, home price decline.

consumers is much lower. We are in an environment where the credit quality as Dean said is much higher. The cumulative equity accumulation for these consumers is pretty significant and then you think about our portfolio being primarily primary occupants and also a low housing supply in the market. While home prices will fluctuate in this market as we saw recently.

we don't think that that's the primary driver for new delinquencies.

Yep, that's helpful.

Thanks for that detail. And I want to follow up on the dividend, too. I mean, how would your appetite to paying a dividend change? Or maybe how would you run the business any differently?

if your P-Meyers ratio were either higher or lower than it is today.

Yeah, Eric, I think we're comfortable with our PMIRES efficiency levels where they are today. We've talked about.

Certainly under more economic uncertainty, maintaining PMARS levels above 150%. I think really our return of capital. For 2023 is going to be driven by.

you know, the macroeconomic uncertainty itself and how that ultimately those economic headwind tailwinds ultimately resolve are going to influence kind of our perspective on the most appropriate amount of capital to return shareholders to two shareholders in 2023.

I think we're going to follow the same capital prioritization framework that we've talked about in the past. And one of the key aspects of that is returning capital to shareholders. So.

We're going to be thoughtful about that and I think we've provided a little bit of a road map, at least to part of our capital return story in 2023. With our quarterly dividends that we expect to continue prospectively. And our share repurchase program, I think if you put those together. You can see your way to 160, 170M of planned capital return in 2023 and then we'll.

continue to evaluate that the economic landscape as well as business performance through the remainder of the year to figure out if there's incremental to that. Yeah and I think Eric just from a cycle perspective in normal times and good times in the economy PMI target might be something that is kind of we've talked about a range of PMI target for our business.

I think that links very nicely with what Dean said.

and actually we've got the insight. That's really helpful. Thank you guys very much.

Thank you. Thanks, Erika. Thank you all for participating in today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Mr. Rohit Gupta for any closing remarks. Thank you, Cherie. Thank you all. We appreciate your interest in the NAC and look forward to sharing our story in future conversations.

I also look forward to seeing many of you next week at the Bank of America Securities Insurance Conference. Thanks, everybody. Thank you for participating. This concludes today's program. You may now disconnect.

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