Q4 2022 Hilltop Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Hi, everyone and welcome to the Hilltop Holdings fourth quarter 2022 earnings Conference call and webcast. My name is Bruno and I will be the operator of your call today.
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With that I will now turn the presentation Edwards, President and CEO Jeremy Ford.
Thank you Eric and good morning.
For the fourth quarter Hilltop reported net income of approximately $26 million or <unk> 39 per diluted share.
Return on average assets for the period was <unk>, 6% and return on average equity was 5%.
Although the mortgage market remained under significant pressure, we still generated consolidated profitability and grew our capital base due to our diversified business model strong balance sheet and continued focus on expense discipline across each of our companies.
During the fourth quarter place capital Bank generated $58 million in pretax income and a strong return on average assets of one 3%.
Pre tax income is down year over year due to changes in provision expense from deterioration of the economic outlook.
Thanks pretax pre provision income grew materially from net interest income expansion in a relatively flat expense base. Despite the inflationary environment.
Average loans held for investment at Plains capital Bank increased $101 million or approximately 4% annualized in the quarter as a result of both core commercial loans and an increase in retained mortgage balances.
Average loan growth would have been higher if not for the approximate $116 million decline in average national warehouse lending balances versus the prior quarter.
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We are pleased with the loan growth in 2022. However, we are starting to see pressure on the pipeline as a result of our heightened credit standards and declining loan demand in general due to the economy elevated rates and other factors.
Total average deposits decreased by $270 million or 2% quarter over quarter as customers have migrated deposit balances towards higher yielding assets, both inside and outside of the bank.
We are pleased that we have been able to retain meaningful deposit relationships within our private banks assets under management as customers move some money from bank deposits into treasuries and similar securities.
For the full year, the bank generated $219 million in pre tax income and a return on average assets of one 2%.
Net interest income before purchase accounting accretion and PPP income grew by $32 million or 9% as interest rates increase throughout the year.
We do expect deposit balances and cost to be under pressure in 2023 due to intense competition across Texas, where many banks will inevitably drive up market pricing for deposits to maintain liquidity.
We continue to monitor credit closely in anticipation that economic conditions could result in a downward migration in asset quality.
That said, we currently do not show any significant signs of credit deterioration in our loan portfolio.
Additionally, with elevated rates expected throughout 2023, we anticipate continuing to see borrowers putting higher amounts of equity into transactions and projects continuing to slow.
Overall, we are extremely pleased with plains capital base results in 2022 and remain optimistic for the banking environment in 2023.
We have a great group of leaders and bankers across Texas, and we'll continue to capitalize on the growth and strong economies within our state.
Moving to prime lending.
During the fourth quarter prime lending experienced a loss before taxes of approximately $26 million and $2 billion of originated volume.
This was driven by a 59% decline in volume and a 151 basis point reduction in gain on sale margin from the same period prior year.
There were multiple factors that adversely impacted the mortgage industry in 2022.
Including inflation, the resulting steep rise in interest rates limited housing inventory and the negative residual impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic.
These factors have constrained the willingness and ability of perspective by homebuyers and existing homeowners to conduct mortgage transactions, both in the purchase and refinancing market.
Additionally, these trends have added two already competitive mortgage pricing pressures.
Due to a decline in average loan sales margins as mortgage volume declines have materially outpaced the capacity that needs to come out of the mortgage origination ecosystem.
Throughout the challenging year, our team has remained resilient and undertook difficult, but impactful cost reduction optimization actions to help resize. The overall business, specifically, reducing non originator head count by approximately 515 people or 37% during the.
A year.
That said, our prime lending leadership team remains focused on their two primary objectives originating profitable loans and continuing to operate the business more efficiently.
During the quarter Hilltop securities generated pre tax income of $19 8 million on net revenues of $107 million, an increase in revenues of $12 million or 13% compared to Q4 2021.
The revenue increase was primarily driven by fixed income services, which more than offset a slow quarter in public finance as national issuance declined by 41% compared to Q4 2021.
Increased revenues from fixed income can be attributed primarily to improvements in municipal and mortgage products.
Additionally, our revenue from sweep deposits continues to improve so we expect the growth in that revenue to moderate in 2023.
For the year Hilltop Securities generated net revenues of $394 million and a pre tax margin of nine 6%.
Financial results improved over the last three consecutive quarters following a very volatile trading results in the first quarter.
Moving to page four.
Hilltop maintains strong capital levels with a common equity tier one capital ratio of 18, 2% and tangible book value per share of $27 31 at year end.
During 2020 to hilltop returned $485 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchase efforts repurchasing approximately 19% of the shares outstanding one year ago.
This week Hilltops board of directors declared a quarterly cash dividend of <unk> 16 per common share a 7% increase from the prior quarter and authorized a new stock repurchase program of $75 million through January of 2024.
Overall 2022 was a challenging year for our mortgage related businesses.
So buoyed by the strength of our banking franchise dispute.
Despite challenges in certain business lines, we feel that we have positioned the organization well entering 2023.
First our financial position is solid we have a <unk>.
Strong balance sheet with ample liquidity diversified and accessible funding sources and the outsized capital base.
We believe this allows us to invest in our business stay resilient through economic cycles, and take advantage of growth opportunities as they arise.
Second we have worked to enhance productivity and expense efficiency across all businesses and in particular executed on significant actions within our mortgage operations groups to better align with the current market.
Through those efforts, we are expecting a more efficient expense base to help combat rising inflation cost and we are poised to benefit from higher margins as the economy recovers.
Additionally, employee engagement is high and we feel that we are more focused and aligned as a company than ever before.
In conclusion, we believe that 2023 will be a prosperous year for hilltop. We have the solid foundation excuse me, we have a solid financial foundation, well established businesses and talented teams across our franchise.
We're excited about the opportunities that lie ahead and are committed to delivering value to our shareholders.
With that I will now turn the presentation over to Wil to discuss the financials.
Thank you Jeremy I'll start on page five.
As Jeremy discussed for the fourth quarter of 2020 to hilltop reported consolidated income attributable to common stockholders of $26 million equating to 39 cents per diluted share.
As is shown on page six for the full year 2020 to hilltop reported consolidated income attributable to common stockholders of $113 million or $1 60 per diluted share.
Hilltops ending shares were reduced.
By 18% from $14 3 million shares during the year, primarily as a result of the successful tender offer completed during may.
Turning to page seven.
Hilltops allowance for credit losses increased by $3 6 million to $95 4 million as deterioration in the macro economic outlook drove a modest increase in the ACL.
The economic impact was somewhat offset by reductions in both specific reserves and collect the portfolio migration.
Allowance for credit losses of $95 million yields an ACL to total loans <unk> ratio of 1.18% as of year end 2022.
Of note, we continue to believe that the allowance for credit losses could be volatile in the future changes in the allowance will be driven by net loan growth in the portfolio credit migration trends and changes to the macroeconomic outlook overtime.
Given the current uncertainties regarding inflation interest rates, the future outlook for GDP growth and unemployment changes in the ACL on a quarterly basis could be volatile.
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Net interest income in the fourth quarter equated to $123 million, including $2 2 million of purchase accounting accretion.
Versus the prior year quarter.
Net interest income increased by $19 million or 18% driven primarily by higher yields on loans securities and cash balances, which were somewhat offset by higher rates on deposits and variable rate borrowings.
Net interest margin continued to improve versus the third quarter of 'twenty two.
Creasing by four basis points to 323 basis points.
Our current outlook reflects a scenario whereby fed funds moves to between five and 5.25% during the first half of 2023 and remained stable for the balance of the year.
In this scenario proves to be accurate, we expect NII and NIM to continue to expand modestly through the first half of the year and then begin to decline as interest bearing deposit rates will likely continue to move higher throughout the balance of 2023 as the competitive environment for liquidity remains very intense.
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In the chart, we highlight the asset sensitivity of hilltop, assuming parallel instantaneous rate shocks, which represents an asset sensitive position of approximately 6% in the up 100 basis point scenario.
As we evaluate asset sensitivity and interest rate risk, we assessed a number of potential scenarios of note. If we shift the analysis from an instantaneous parallel shift to a gradual increase over the course of the next 12 months, you're up 100 basis points sensitivity falls to approximately 3%.
Further in this scenario each 25 basis point increase positively impacts net interest income by approximately $4 million.
Moving to page 10.
Total noninterest income for the fourth quarter of 2022 equated to a $170 million.
Fourth quarter mortgage related income and fees decreased by $121 million versus the fourth quarter of 'twenty, one driven by the evolving environment and mortgage banking, which remains very challenged.
The combination of higher interest rates home price inflation limited housing supply and ongoing overcapacity in terms of mortgage originators across the United States is driven volumes materially lower margins to levels, we've not seen in recent history.
Further versus the prior year quarter purchase mortgage volumes decreased by $1 7 billion or 47% and refinance volumes decreased by $1 3 billion or 90%.
During the fourth quarter of 2022.
Margins continued what has been a multi quarter decline with gain on sale margin for loans sold to third parties declined 16 basis points to 211 basis points.
While gain on sale margins have been pressured we are continuing to see the customers who are paying to buy down their interest rate and as such our mortgage origination fees were stable versus the prior year period.
We expect the gain on sale margins will continue to be pressured and trend lower throughout the first half of the year and then customers will continue to prefer to buy down their interest rate rather than rather than pay the prevailing market rate, resulting in mortgage origination fees continuing to outperform origination volume trends.
Other income increased by $18 million, driven primarily by improved municipal trading results and additional favorable valuation marks across the fixed income trading books during the quarter.
It is important to recognize that most of the fixed income services and structured finance businesses at hilltop Securities.
Be volatile from period to period as they are impacted by interest rates overall market liquidity volatility and production trends.
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Noninterest expenses decrease from the same period in the prior year by $69 million to $253 million the decline in expenses versus the prior year was driven by decreases in variable compensation.
<unk> $50 million of hilltop securities and Prime lending, which was linked to lower fee revenue generation in the quarter compared to the prior year period.
Additionally, non compensation variable expenses, particularly mortgage production related expenses, which are captured in other expenses in the table in the upper right of the slide declined as production volumes declined versus the prior year.
Looking forward to 2023, we expect expenses other than variable compensation will remain relatively stable as the ongoing focused efforts related to streamlining our operations and improving productivity continue to support a lower head count and improve throughput across our franchise.
Moving to page 12.
Fourth quarter average <unk> loans equated to $7 $8 billion in 2022 stable with the prior year fourth quarter levels.
On a period end basis, H five loans grew versus the third quarter.
22 by $213 million, driven by improving commercial loan growth, particularly in commercial real estate.
And the retention of one to four family mortgages originated by Prime lending.
During the fourth quarter of 2022 Prime lending locked approximately 142 million of loans will be delivered to plains capital over the coming months.
These loans had an average yield of 617 basis points and average FICO and Ltvs of 774 and 68% respectively.
Turning to page 13.
The graph in the upper right. We show the progress made in reducing NPA throughout 2022, which continue to support a relatively low level of net charge offs throughout the fiscal year.
As is shown on the graph the bottom right of the page the allowance for credit loss coverage at the bank ended 2022, and $1, two 4%, including mortgage warehouse lending.
I'm moving to page 14.
Fourth quarter average total deposits are approximately $11 4 billion declined by approximately $1 billion or 8% versus the fourth quarter of 'twenty one.
On an ending balance basis deposits declined by $1 5 billion to $11 3 billion from the prior year ending level.
Included in the fine was our usage of $442 million related to the HTH tender share repurchase and $410 million of deposits that are transferred into our private bank in pursuit of higher yields in treasuries or other sweet program.
While we expected deposits to decline given the level and speed of market interest rate adjustments, coupled with our decision to manage interest bearing deposit costs with a significant lag during the fourth quarter of 2022, we began to see customer activity shift.
Customers began to see higher interest rates at an accelerated pace.
Interest bearing deposit costs rose 157 basis points from 22 basis points in the prior year period.
Given the ongoing ongoing competitive intensity for liquidity by some participants in our markets. We expect that deposit rates will move will continue move higher throughout 2023, robbing our expected deposit betas above our previous target of 50% towards 60% through the cycle for interest bearing deposits.
We remain focused on balancing our competitive position and supporting our long term customer relationships with managing net interest income over time.
Turning to page 15.
As we turn the calendar to 2023, there continues to be a lot of uncertainty in the market regarding interest rates inflation and the overall health of the economy.
We are pleased with the work that our team has delivered to position our company for times like these and our teammates across our franchise remain focused on delivering great customer service to our clients attracting new customers to our franchise supporting the communities, where we serve maintain.
Maintaining a moderate risk profile.
And delivering long term shareholder value.
As noted in the table our current outlook for 2023 reflects our current assessment of the economy and the markets where we participate.
Further as the market changes and we adjust our business.
You responded we will provide updates to our outlook on our future quarterly calls.
Operator that concludes our prepared comments and we'll turn the call back to you for the Q&A section of the call.
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Our first question is from Michael Rose from Raymond James Michael Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys I hope you're well thanks for taking my questions I just wanted to talk about the mortgage.
Segment and.
You mentioned some of the.
The the steps you've taken to reduce the cost base can you just give a little bit more color on what steps you've taken to kind of rightsize.
The business and how we should think about segment profitability.
At least over the next couple of quarters right now, it's going to be pretty challenging, but just wanted to see if we're kind of at or near an inflection point.
With the with the loss this quarter. Thanks.
And Michael this will thanks for the question.
I think as we have gone through 2022.
A lot of work was done as Jeremy mentioned.
In the non production area, we are continuing to make.
Investments in our originators are trying to grow our sales staff obviously.
Got to originate profitable loans to kind of reach the inflection point you talked about we've done <unk>.
Significant reductions in the middle and back office to.
Our focus on productivity targets that had been set forth previously.
We continue to make it make strides in that in that area. So we were continuing to evaluate it I'd say.
The realignment of that business is more of a as more of a process and a place where we can get to an endpoint.
We continue to evaluate the business on a on really a weekly basis weekly and quarterly basis as we see production trends here into the first quarter as it relates to profitability. You know we are expecting that the first quarter will yield.
Our results similar to those in the fourth quarter first quarter seasonally a weak origination period nothing we've seen in the first months here has changed that view.
However, in the second half of the year, we expect to start to move closer to breakeven or prop or profitability. So the work. The team has done I think has positioned us.
To.
Reset inflection point, but again, we do expect a challenging first quarter.
Perfect I appreciate the color and what what are I know you talked about pressure on the gain on sale margin, but yes.
A sense for how much either downward pressure there may be from here or maybe when you think might be the better question when it might actually kind of stabilize and I know, we've talked about the excess capacity coming out of the system, but.
It still seems like you and others are still seeing pressure.
When when do you think we kind of hit an inflection point, there and then could.
Could we actually start to see some relief as we move into the back half of the year.
I think it's hard to call obviously, we're playing with the market, we're playing in the market where given so it's hard to absolutely say our expectation just based on that that return to kind of breakeven or profitability relies.
Relies on relies on some relief from a from a gain on sale perspective, as well as mortgage origination fees continuing to remain strong. So we are projecting that it will start to improve in the second half of the year, but again.
It has taken longer and moves slower from a from a right sizing of the overall industry than we would've otherwise expected. So we're going to continue to be vigilant around cost and right sizing our franchise and be focused on on driving our business as best we can towards profitability.
I appreciate it and then just maybe moving to the core bank.
The margin was.
I think some of it was flat Q on Q, but the consolidated margin up a little bit obviously.
The fed seems to be at or near peak levels of fed funds and looking at the forward curve can you just give us an idea for trajectory.
On the margin I would assume that you might expect maybe flat to up on.
On a consolidated basis, just given the impact of the rate hikes, but obviously, there's the deposit side of the equation too.
So if you can just give us your general thoughts on kind of near term.
Margin trends would be helpful. Thanks.
So you know from a from an overall margin perspective, and I'll talk about consolidated which you can see on page eight of our of our materials, but.
We are expecting as I sit in my comments to see with with the expected fed funds kind of targeted at five to five and a quarter range, we are expecting to see.
Modest improvement ongoing improvement in our NII.
Our NIM through the first half now.
As I noted.
We are seeing deposit betas in our business and our markets move.
Higher faster than we would have otherwise expected.
Lot of that is related to the liquidity competition and the intensity there too around banks continuing to acquire deposits. So you know I'll just give you an endpoint. So the December the December net interest margin on a consolidated basis was $3 32, so that gives you.
Sense versus the 323, which was the average for the quarter. It gives you a sense of some positive trajectory there, but we were gonna have to be vigilant around protecting our deposit base.
And protecting our relationships. So again, we're expecting modest modest increases in NII and NIM through the first half we do expect that this deposit and liquidity competition will persist for the balance of the year. So we do expect to see those improvements moderate in the second half.
Unlikely likely start to trend downward at least slightly through the through the end of 'twenty three.
Perfect and then maybe finally for me.
But the buyback.
When you guys were obviously fairly active last year.
Just given the economic uncertainty.
Do you expect there.
Kind of use the full amount of the buyback or is it just you're going to be opportunistic.
There's declines in the price just given the uncertainty in the economic backdrop. Thanks.
Sure I mean, I think that you know.
Part of our capital planning we authorized.
Share repurchase, though he did that and so we will evaluate in open windows.
You know this quarter and I think that's the best number you've got to go on this year.
Go forward.
Great. Thanks for taking my questions guys.
Thank you. Thank you.
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Our next question is from Thomas Wendler from Stephens incorporation.
Thomas Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone.
Good morning Juan.
Can you guys, maybe dig a little deeper into the broker dealer fee guidance you provided the zero to 5% growth in 2023, just looking for any color on the moving parts by business line there.
Yeah. So as we as we look out into 2023, obviously the investment banking business the trading businesses can be difficult to assess.
And so as we as we look forward, we expect to see improvement in our public finance services business we.
We had a we had a challenging underwriting underwriting year in 2022, we think that improves modestly from a fixed income services perspective, it's difficult necessarily to predict exactly how the year goes we obviously saw some volatile results quarter to quarter in 2022.
But we do it we don't we don't see the environment necessarily materially changing in the first quarter from what we saw but it is starting to heal slowly. So we've got an improving modestly through the year.
And then we expect our sweep fees that we've talked about to continue to carry forward in.
Carry forward into 2023, so a modest improvement, but not a market shift in and what I would call. The overall environment for for Hilltop Securities.
Alright, thanks for the color there guys.
It was my only question. Thank you.
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Our next question is from Woody lay from key B W.
Would you. Please your line is now open go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Good morning Walter.
Yeah wanted to touch on credit I mean, you know all the credit metrics, where we're pretty stable quarter over quarter, which was good to see.
Hum.
Are there any one segment in particular, you're you're taking a closer look at them.
At this time or just how are you thinking about credit over the next six months.
Yes.
We are watching.
Watching our entire loan book, obviously as interest rates have shocked higher.
Reset periods for different clients, so it's affecting different clients at different rates here, but are we are.
Evaluating the book really across certainly for anybody who's got a.
Floating rate or variable rate loan.
Portions of the book, we continue to look at it I think this has been consistent the office book, which is just under $860 million. We continue to monitor closely given work from home trends and the like.
The hotel the hotel.
Portfolio, which is much smaller than it used to be but we continue to monitor that portfolio is certainly for business travel.
But outside of that I think it's really a fulsome look across the portfolio.
Again, because the biggest what we're seeing is the biggest challenge is higher interest rates and the speed with which those interest rates to move higher or customers not necessarily being the push that through to their customers or pass that through and so it is.
Impairing is very cash flow on the margins. So we're watching that across the globe.
Okay. That's that's great color.
And then I.
Wanted to touch on the deposit guidance.
You lay out Youre expecting average deposits down 4% to 8% for the year you know under this scenario do you think the are the overall size of the balance balance sheet shrink or would you look for.
Fill the hole with short term borrowings in this scenario.
Our outlook kind of expects the balance sheet is similarly in size year on year. So it doesn't it doesn't get materially smaller, but it does it does likely shrink modestly but again.
We're looking to see we've got excess cash level of those cash levels will likely run down and we'll see that reinvest in loans in the loan portfolio.
Alright, that's all for me thanks, guys.
Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, we currently have no further questions.
And this concludes today's call. Thank you for joining you may now disconnect your lines have a great day.
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