Q4 2022 Aeva Technologies Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker 2: Good day, my name is Doug and I'll be your conference facilitator. I would like to welcome everyone to AVA Technology's fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings conference call.
Speaker 2: During the opening remarks, all participants will be in a listen-only mode.
Speaker 2: Following the opening remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session.
Speaker 2: As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded and simultaneously webcast.
Speaker 2: I would now like to turn the call over to Andrew Fong, Director of Investor Relations. Andrew, please go ahead.
Speaker 2: Thank you and welcome everyone to ABA's fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings conference call.
Speaker 3: Joining on the call today are Suresh Thalaiyan, Ava's co-founder and CEO , and Sarab Sinha, CEO .
Speaker 3: Ahead of this call, we issued our fourth quarter and full year 2022 press release and presentation, which we will refer to today and can be found on our investor relations website at investors.aeva.com.
Speaker 3: Please note that on this call we will be making forward-looking statements based on current expectations and assumptions.
Speaker 3: which are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Speaker 3: These statements reflect our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representative of our views as of any subsequent date.
Speaker 3: These statements are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations.
Speaker 3: For further discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our financial results, please refer to our filings with the SEC, including our most recent Form 10-Q and Form 10-K .
Speaker 3: In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of Avis performance.
Speaker 3: These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from GAAP results.
Speaker 3: The webcast replay of this call will be available on our company website under the investor relations link.
Speaker 3: And with that, let me turn the call over to Soroush.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew, and good afternoon, everyone. 2022 was a significant year at AVA that was marked by a number of milestones that moved us forward on the path towards production.
Speaker 2: I would like to summarize our key achievements on slide 5.
Speaker 2: First, we introduce Ares II, the world's first commercially available 4D VIDAR offering high performance in a smaller form factor.
Speaker 2: Over the course of 2022, we shipped to more than 40 customers.
Speaker 2: Importantly, this has enabled us to progress on a growing number of vehicle programs to the advanced or RFQ stage with leading OEMs.
Speaker 2: Second, our commercial progress was possible because of our ability to bring up our initial manufacturing line. Launching a new product is not trivial and I am very proud of the work the ABUT team accomplished to increase the pace of production by approximately three times by year end.
Speaker 2: and enable us to meet more of the growing demand for our unique products.
Speaker 2: Third, we solidified our accelerated expansion into the established and growing industrial automation markets with the addition of our collaboration with SICK AG.
Speaker 2: We also completed core development of our LiDAR on-chip perception platform for industrial automation, which we are using for our existing customers, including Nikon, as well as to grow our opportunities in industrial automation.
Speaker 2: And fourth, all of this was accomplished while maintaining a sharp focus on Svens.
Speaker 2: All PECs came in below the outlook we provided for 2022 by more than 10%, without limiting our ability to execute.
Speaker 2: We ended the year with $324 million in cash and marketable securities, which positions us well to continue investing strategically to bring Ava 40 LIDAR to market.
Speaker 2: Turning now to slide 7, I would like to provide more color on recent business developments.
Speaker 2: The ABA team has been laser focused on advancing our growing commercial momentum and our efforts are beginning to show meaningful progress.
Speaker 2: In particular, I am excited to share that EVA has been selected by a top 10 global OEM for their vehicle development program. We are starting to deploy EVA 40 LIDAR as the long range LIDAR on this OEM on-road development fleet.
Speaker 2: where valuable real-world data with a new dimension of velocity will be used to define the specifications for production vehicles with a targeted 2025 start of production.
Speaker 2: We have been engaged for some time with this OEM and now they can start to incorporate Ava's unique velocity data and the perception software to achieve their high standards for safety —
Speaker 2: Because FMCW can instantly measure velocity for every pixel and is immune to interference from other LIDARs or the sun, it can provide unique advantages over time of flight or 3D LIDAR in detection and classification of critical objects on the road.
Speaker 2: We believe this helps OEMs with a better margin of safety and to achieve the performance needed for broad deployment of advanced ADAS and autonomous capabilities. We hope to share more details on this collaboration over the course of this year.
Speaker 2: Moving to slide 8, I would like to discuss our progress in industrial automation.
Speaker 2: In Q4, we completed the core development of our LiDAR-on-chip perception platform for industrial automation, which utilizes the same chip architecture we are using for automotive, but with different software to pursue the large and growing precision distance measurement market, which is a subset of the large industrial automation sector.
Speaker 2: Precision distance measurement is used across many industries for manufacturing, inspection, and quality control. While the market is already multi-billion dollars in size, broader adoption has been limited by current solutions that are typically challenged in meeting the right balance of performance, cost, and size all in one solution.
Speaker 2: often resulting in multiple product architecture SKUs for each application to achieve, for example, short, mid, or long range distance measurements.
Speaker 2: Through adaptable software, Ava's slider-on-chip can achieve the needed level of precision across multiple applications from short to longer ranges all on the same scalable silicon photonics architecture at affordable costs in a compact form factor.
Speaker 2: We think this performance flexibility can bring immense value to the end user and allows us to pursue multiple opportunities with the same platform.
Speaker 2: We are using this platform starting with our collaboration with Nikon, leveraging AVA's ability to achieve micron level precision for industrial metrology applications.
Speaker 2: Additionally, our plan this year is to leverage our Lidar-on-chip perception platform to respond to a growing pull from the market and distance measurements for large scale opportunities.
Speaker 2: Let's turn to slide 9.
Speaker 2: After successfully bringing up our initial manufacturing line last year, I am pleased to share that we are expanding to a new manufacturing line in 2023 to support our growing commercial momentum.
Speaker 2: This line simplifies the overall manufacturing process and is where we complete our LiDAR system assembly, calibration, and tests.
Speaker 2: We expect this new added capacity to sufficiently support our product deployment needs to existing customers and new opportunities until mass production.
Speaker 2: Earlier this year, we began manufacturing on this new line and expect process optimizations to continue over the next few months.
Speaker 2: Along with the higher capacity, our new line will allow us to also implement increasing levels of automation as we progress towards production.
Speaker 2: Turning now to slide 11, I would like to share more about our key goals for this year. Our priority is to convert more of our commercial progress to program wins and focus on the following objectives in 2023.
Speaker 2: First, we target winning two additional programs towards production.
Speaker 2: We are progressing on a growing number of vehicle programs to the advanced or FQ stage with leading OEMs.
Speaker 2: In addition, this year we are looking to further our engagements within major industrial sensing opportunities where we can leverage our LIDAR on-chip perception platform.
Speaker 2: We do not expect to win all of our engagements, but do believe we are in a position to secure additional programs towards production this year.
Speaker 2: Second, we plan to complete key product development in automotive and industrial.
Speaker 2: In automotive, this includes completing the final form factor that will be used for series production.
Speaker 2: For industrial automation, we will continue to iterate on our platform this year to prepare for market release and expand to additional opportunities for deployment at scale.
Speaker 2: Third, complete the expansion of our new manufacturing line, which we expect to provide sufficient capacity to support our existing customers until production, and secure additional production programs.
Speaker 2: And fourth, we are focused on maintaining strong financial discipline as we work to bring AVA 4D LiDAR to market.
Speaker 2: As Sarabh will discuss in more detail next, we target OPEX in 2023 to be similar to 2022.
Speaker 2: We have a strong balance sheet and will continue to strategically invest to meet the increasing demand for our unique 4D LiDAR technology.
Speaker 2: With that, let me turn the call over to Sarab, who will discuss the financials.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Srouj, and good afternoon, everyone.
Speaker 4: Let's turn to slide 13 to discuss our full year 2022 financial results and 2023 financial outlook. Revenue for full year 2022 was $4.2 million, which included revenue of $8.1 million and
Speaker 4: that was partially offset by an adjustment of $3.9 million due to an existing customer's roadmap provision towards less customization.
Speaker 4: This aligns with our standard product line capabilities. We look forward to continuing our collaboration with this customer on their program.
Speaker 4: Non-GAP operating loss for the full year 2022 was $127.7 million.
Speaker 4: which primarily consisted of R&D expenses. In addition, we continued to efficiently manage operating expenses and it came in below our Annual Outlook for 2022 by more than 10%.
Speaker 4: Our gross cash use which is operating cash flow less capital expenditure was $117.4 million for the full year 2022.
Speaker 4: This enabled us to end the year with a strong cash, cash equivalent and marketable securities position of 323.8 million.
Speaker 4: Weighted average shares outstanding for the fourth quarter was $218.4 million.
Speaker 4: Turning now to a Financial outlook for 2023.
Speaker 4: As Surush said, this year we are focused on increasing our wins and supporting our customers on product validation and development of their end product.
Speaker 4: We are targeting revenue in 2023 to grow by at least 50% year-over-year, driven by higher product deliveries to our key customers.
Speaker 4: As we are bringing up our new manufacturing line and optimizing processes in the first half of the year, we expect 2023 revenues to be back and loaded.
Speaker 4: We are targeting non-GAAP operating expenses, which exclude stock-based compensation and other potential non-recurring charges to be similar to 2022. And lastly, AVA's balance sheet is strong and we continue to have significant capital to execute on our plan to ramp up product shipment.
Speaker 4: support our existing customers, and convert additional programs toward production.
Speaker 2: I will now turn the call back to Saroj for closing remarks. Thank you, Saraf. In summary, we are really excited about our growing commercial momentum and the opportunities ahead in 2023.
Speaker 2: Over the past quarter, we have made substantial progress on multiple programs with global OEMs thanks to the tremendous work by the ABA team.
Speaker 2: Similarly, we are actively engaged on growing opportunities to use our LiDAR on-chip perception platform.
Speaker 2: for large-scale implementation in industrial automation.
Speaker 2: Our focus in 2023 is on winning these opportunities and continuing to work towards production with our existing partners.
Speaker 2: We are in a strong position with our unique technology and financial position to do so, and I look forward to sharing our progress over the course of this year.
Speaker 2: With that, we will now open up the line for questions.
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Speaker 5: Our first question comes from the line of Colin Rush with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 6: Thanks so much guys and congratulations on all the progress. You know with the increased availability of product, you know and having been able to get samples out, can you talk a little bit about the availability of the samples and how that's changing the scope and scale of the customer engagement that you're able to work on at this point?
Speaker 2: Sure Colin, happy to answer that. This is Soroush. So, obviously as we set the goal last year to release Ares II, this was a key milestone for us. We did achieve that goal. We really delivered on launching Ares II and this has been a key factor for us. We were able to launch the first one on the call. That launch resulted in us being able to ship to over 40 plus customers.
Speaker 2: We have further expanded with that our ability to secure new partners in the industrial as well, including with the collaboration with Sec AG. Of course, our vision for our collaboration with Nikon. We have also made good progress in bringing up our initial manufacturing line. So
Speaker 2: All of that has really resulted us to actually now continue our progress towards advancing to the late stage or our few stages with multiple customers, which obviously if we could not deliver Aries II would have been a problem. So that's been a big win for us. I think also generally the feedback of customers has been quite positive.
Speaker 2: and we're making now meaningful progress and case in point is the top 10 OEM decision that I mentioned on the call to start implementing our lighter on their vehicle fleet which is a significant milestone for us as well. So I hope that answers your question.
Speaker 6: Yep, that's helpful. And then with the manufacturing process, can you talk a little bit about the key areas of maturation that you're working on right now this year, and then also the capex spend that you're planning to put into that line this year as you work towards a larger scale? Yeah, so as I mentioned on the call, you know,
Speaker 2: This year we're expanding our manufacturing to a new line, which really further increases our capacity. The important thing here is that our overall Lidar system manufacturing is being simplified through the process. We are increasing automation. We are increasing our capacity through the process.
Speaker 2: we will have with this new line sufficient capacity to support our customers and new wins until production. So now this new line is really going to be setting us up for the next set of opportunities, engagements and getting to secure those wins.
Speaker 2: The activity is around continuing with process optimization, which I mentioned on the call we're going to be doing in the next few months, and further increasing our automation level to really continue scaling our product deliveries throughout the rest of this year to those key customers.
Speaker 5: Our next question comes from the line of Antoine Chabon with New Street Research. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 7: Hi Andrew, thanks for the update and for taking my question. So yeah, my main question is recent news flow suggests that multiple LIDAR enabled L3 ADAS are getting pushed out by one to two years and...
Speaker 7: Can you maybe please give us your latest perspective on the situation, what you are hearing in conversations with OEMs and in particular has anything changed with regards to whether those L3 platforms will adopt Klydar when they eventually ramp and what their latest thoughts are on time of flight versus FMCW.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I thought I'd be happy to answer that. So I think generally, obviously OEM to OEM, vehicle type to vehicle type and level automation, there is differences in approaches from between across these folks. There is differences in the timings. I think some of the, you know, can assume from what we hear in the industry, some of that.
Speaker 2: Very, very high level, super high level automation obviously has timelines wise, what we are seeing is pushed out, but from those L3 plus and ADAS applications from automation, that's actually where a lot of the focus is. And this has been...
Speaker 2: critical for our case in terms of our advancement throughout the opportunities, evidenced by the fact that we've been able to actually provide units to our customers and start delivering samples so they can actually validate.
Speaker 2: But also importantly, now these OEMs are starting to actually make progress towards the RFQ stages. So we're now in multiple RFQ programs as a result of our ability to ship Lassiter with Ares II. And there are a number of decisions that are happening. We expect to happen this year.
Speaker 2: One, of course, case in point of this, clear evidence is that this top 10 OEM that we talked about, which is an established leader in automotive, as I mentioned on the call, with significant scale, and we've been working with this OEM for some time now. This OEM was tested with other 375 LiDARs in the prior development stages since our close collaboration.
Speaker 2: is now in the next stage is actually deciding to implement our lot of technology, the Ford LIDAR, as the long-range LIDAR on the fleet vehicle. So that's, to your point about what the advantages that the folks are seeing, I think that's now starting to take shape. And it continues to build on our belief that the industry over time is going to transition to FMCW. adults on our animals on our proposed robotic treated x-ray é
Speaker 2: But again, we are pretty encouraged by the progress we've made and excited to start off the year with this growing momentum here.
Speaker 7: Thanks for the color and maybe just as a quick follow-up, you mentioned that you're progressing well on a growing number of vehicle programs, the advanced or a few stage with leading OEMs and so maybe if you could just give us like a sense of how things have progressed relative to
Speaker 7: to say 90 days or 180 days ago so we can better visualize how we meant to be speaking up. That would be amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, look, as I said, as a direct result of our ability to actually ship product customers and also some of the customers now with decisions happening this year, and we are now fortunate to be advancing to those RFP stages and advanced stages on multiple programs with decisions happening the next number of months.
Speaker 2: One, two is we are seeing some of those OEMs after they start actually implement and use our technology to really start realizing how they can leverage the key dimensions such as velocity, the differentiation of our technology.
Speaker 2: And, you know, this in large part is helping some of those folks to achieve some of the higher level standards that they could not achieve before with other solutions, right? So that I think is some of the...
Speaker 2: traction and actually evidence that we're seeing from the customer. We fully expect to continue working through these program opportunities that are used with these customers, as well as supporting this top 10 OEM as they work towards production and as I mentioned, with the target SOP of 2025.
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Speaker 5: You talked about it as a development agreement with kind of the intent to go to manufacturing in 2025. Can you be – what does that development agreement mean? Is it a commitment to volume? Is there prospects for volume but you have to meet certain milestones? Just how should we think about what a development agreement means in terms of certainty of revenue commitment?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure Joe, happy to answer that. So let me give you some context and background as we're talking about this now a little bit. So,
Speaker 2: First of all, the mission of this OEM is an established leader in automotive with significant scale. We've been working with them for some time. They have tested with other 3D time-of-flight LIDAR in the prior stages and with our close collaboration with this OEM, in the next stage, they decided to really implement our technology as the long-range LIDAR.
Speaker 2: installing our ladder on the road fleet. So this is, you know, we're providing them with sensors, they're integrating on the vehicle fleet. Importantly, they're starting to actually integrate our velocity data products and our perception software into their stack, which I think is a critical point.
Speaker 2: As we expect with this, that the overall stack is going to start to be defined for the production vehicles with our velocity data. So we're working together to define those specs for production. And the SOB target is for 2025. So we're working together to define those specs for the production vehicles.
Speaker 2: That is all critical and the reason, I think one of the key reasons for them
Speaker 2: you know deciding to implement us on their vehicle fleet that setting the setting the path and the key specs for the production program is that uh you know
Speaker 2: They were not really able to achieve the standards of the safety and performance that they're looking for, again to our understanding for deployment and with our technology they're starting to see what they can do with the addition of the velocity and as we have talked about the long-range detection, which other time-defined solutions are a challenge.
Speaker 5: further evidence towards the unique advantages of FMCW technology. Great. I mean, it sounds like a great way. When you think about attach rates out in the 2025 timeframe, is this the kind of thing that would be part of a...
Speaker 5: sort of, you know, an option package that people would buy for the car? Would it be standard in all the vehicles? Maybe not if you can't talk to the specific when, as you just think about 2025 types of production, is it more of like a driver assistance package or is it part of the standard delivery?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I obviously can't comment on the specific details yet, but our expectation is that this is for a higher level automation product and it's obviously using the LiDAR sensor technology is crucial for the OEM achieving their specific use cases.
Speaker 2: specifically as we talked about on, for example, highway driving, long-range sensing. So that's what I can say at this time. And we're really focused on helping this OEM achieve those requirements that they could not really be able to achieve before for their production vehicle program.
Speaker 2: Our next question comes from the line of Tristram Guerra with Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your questions.
Speaker 6: Hi, this is Tyler on for Tristan. Thanks for taking the questions. How is the competitive landscape for FMCW technology changed? Are Intel with Mobileye and other players still working to develop the technology? Or have you seen any changes there? Yeah, look, so obviously I can't comment for others, but I think
Speaker 2: One thing that we see you feel is important is that we're not alone in bringing this technology to the market. We think we have an advantage in terms of both the technology approach, which we have had significant work in protecting our IP and the patents, I think to this day still is one of the largest portfolios of IP granted patents in the space.
Speaker 2: And two, also from a product maturity standpoint. As you know, we've been at this for six, nearly seven years now, which requires significant investment, significant development, which I think has helped us to progress on our opportunities.
Speaker 2: to secure some of these key partners and start preparing for the production programs that are coming up. Obviously, as I mentioned, there are other folks that are in the space. I think we take every competition seriously.
Speaker 2: and I think generally for the space.
Speaker 2: Again, as we have talked about before, we do expect that over time there is going to be a transition from time of flight towards FMCW. Some of the largest players, like you mentioned, like Mobileye, are also starting to implement that.
Speaker 2: strategic strategy is actually a positive thing for the industry. I think it's a proof point to the advantages of FMCW and we welcome that and I think that's important overall for the industry space.
Speaker 2: We expect that over the next number of years others also will come. But we hope to continue extending our lead in the FMCW space with our unique approach to technology and now our focus on bringing up our manufacturing and releasing our first product in the market.
Speaker 6: Great, and then maybe a quick follow up to what you just said in the two previous question. Can you provide an update on the timing that you expect for that transition to FMCW, both for robotaxis and then also personal vehicles?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look, as we talked about, and for example with the top 10 OEM here, first launch is happening around the 2025 timeframe. As you know, in the automotive space, programs have multiple year cycles. And growth is an unusual world.
Speaker 2: This is not something that's going to happen overnight. I do fully expect that there will be additional wins in the AMA flight domain even this year. But the fact that OEMs are starting to leverage and implement the FMCW approach.
Speaker 2: Realize this potential start to actually implement it in their stack and therefore make those decisions to start replacing As I said before, I'm fine
Speaker 2: already I think is a big proof point towards that transition is starting to happen.
Speaker 2: So and that's what I think is important as I said, okay it's gonna take a few years for that to complete and at the end of the day also, we don't think this is a Just you know only one One technology is going to be in the next few years. It's going to take some time for that to happen
Speaker 2: Our next question comes from the line of Suji De Silva with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 2: Hi, Soroush. Hi, Sarab. Congrats on the progress here. Soroush, on the top 10 global OEM development, what are some of the milestones to watch for in the timeline between now and calendar 25? And if you can't be specific about the top 10, you just won. Maybe just generally after you announce an on-road development, what should we watch for in the next in the first year or two, you know, prior to volume ramp?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, thanks for the question, Sudhji. The biggest thing for us is working together with this OEM to help them integrate the unique technology in their stack. And as they build the rest of the stack around it, we think this is going to be quite a powerful combination because of taking advantage of those unique data products. So, yeah, getting very, very little control today gives you a more security perspective. So I decided to go with a whole grainy design to get comfortable, give you a concrete of theä
Speaker 2: their actual software stack for the production vehicles as they move along. So that I think is an important piece that we're going to be working with this OEM in the next number of months to achieve that. And you know generally this from, you asked about generally from okay when you go to a fleet what happens next.
Speaker 2: Typically the next stages go through the traditional award process, RFQ and award. As I mentioned earlier, we are progressing with a number of others into the RFQ stages in the next months and expect some of those decisions to happen this year.
Speaker 2: So that's I think a couple of things I would say that you should be looking out for. Okay and then for a follow-up, I think I know the answer to this, but is every customer going to have to go through this phase where they're getting access to your velocity data and capability for essentially the first time and they have to kind of weave it in with theirs and meld it together or can some just benefit from all the learning you've done in-house in the past few years and just kind of run with that or just is every customer going to have to kind of go through this phase.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so short answer is actually, as we implement this for initial customers, the fact that the one thing also I mentioned earlier is even for this top 10 OEM, they're starting to actually not just use the velocity but also our perception software, right? And that I think actually is an important value proposition.
Speaker 2: because it actually helps them accelerate their integration. So it's not that this is a super long process.
Speaker 2: The fact that we have significant experience with our FMCW data, the fact that we have been developing the perception software in conjunction and parallel to our hardware is an important thing. And as we're able to talk in the future, we will do more about that. It will play another major role foron our vaporization in our
Speaker 2: This specific top-down customer and others, I think, are going to be able to use, actually tap into our perception software to accelerate those integration pieces.
Speaker 2: What I'm referring to is really the normal process that they have to go through as they build up their vehicle fleets, almost all OEMs, prior to an actual launch. So that I think is important.
Speaker 2: You know, we see this as a validation point for us to be able to then provide, take from those learnings and provide the perception software and the results from it to other customers as well. You know, we see this as a validation point for us to be able to then provide the perception software and the results from it to other customers as well.
Speaker 6: Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Garrigan with West Park Capital. What is the issue with your question?
Speaker 3: Hey guys, thanks for letting me ask a question. Just one quick one for me. So besides Nikon with industrial metrology and SICK with industrial sensing, what are some other applications customers are looking to deploy your lidar for? And can you kind of remind us of your strategy in the industrial market? I don't think you guys are going after every single application, but what are some areas you're focusing on, if any?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the question, Kevin. So look, I think this is an important area for us because it's actually one where we're seeing additional inbound interest across industrial applications. You're right, industrial generally is a kind of broad term. We're not going after every single piece, but I would divide this into a couple of different pieces.
Speaker 2: One is around industrial sensing where we have, for example, the 4D scanning application. This is the approach we are taking in our collaboration with SIG AG, a company that is one of the top leaders in the industrial sensing space. There we are providing sensor solutions starting with our ARRI 2.0.
Speaker 2: segment really where we're focused on is around what we call precision distance measurements.
Speaker 2: These are typically applications where it's not really scanning and the focus really is on measuring precisely either distance of objects or features of things throughout the manufacturing process including manufacturing inspection.
Speaker 2: metrology, and overall other safety topics or interaction between humans and manufacturing automation equipment. And this is what I was mentioning on the call, where with our...
Speaker 2: completion of our LiDAR on-chip module or perception platform for industrial sensing, we can now achieve the micron level precision. And this, one of our first customers in this space is Nikon, which we have talked about, and they're using that for automotive manufacturing, high-volume automotive manufacturing applications. But also we're...
Speaker 2: We see a pull from the market for this distance measurement across other applications where we think there is a clear existing business and potential for large scale employment. And this could be from anything from a few centimeters of distance to hundreds of meters more.
Speaker 2: And the key for us is unlike other solutions, so first of all, 3D soundified LiAR, what's out there in the market, doesn't even typically address those markets because of some of the performance inherent limitations.
Speaker 2: Other existing solutions are either typically across multiple SKUs with different architectures that are focused on some only doing a piece of it that's just very short range, some that's medium range, and some that's longer range. The advantage that we bring here is really that we can achieve...
Speaker 2: that high level of performance, micron level precision, and a compact silicon photonics chip platform at volume scale, which based on the many actual products that we have, also in a way that is from a cost standpoint is affordable. And doing so in a way that one solution
Speaker 2: is able to tackle multiple of these applications from a short to longer range. And we think this is an interesting area from an opportunity standpoint for us. And we are engaged in multiple opportunities with folks. And as we're able to talk more, we will be able to discuss further. OK. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I appreciate the color. Thanks, guys. If there are no further questions in the queue, I can't hear you.