Preliminary Q4 2022 VIA Optronics AG Earnings Call
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Speaker 2: Hello everyone and welcome to the VIA Optronics 4th Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. We will begin shortly. If you would like to register a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Thank you for your patience.
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Speaker 2: Hello everyone and welcome to the VIA Optronics 4th Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference School and thank you for standing by. My name is Daisy and I'll be coordinating your call today. If you would like to ask a question please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad.
Speaker 2: I would now like to hand over to your host, Samuel Cohen, with Alpha IR Group, to begin. So, Samuel, please go ahead. Thank you and welcome. Joining me today are Jurgen Eichner, founder and chief executive officer, and Dr. Marcus Peters, chief financial officer.
Speaker 3: I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during this conference call relating to the company's expected future performance, future business prospects, or future events or plans may include forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Speaker 3: Participants are directed to VIAF Tron of swarm 20F for description of certain business risks, some of which may be outside of the control of the company that may cause actual results to materially differ from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. We expressly disclaim any duty to provide updates to our forward-looking statements.
Speaker 3: whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.
Speaker 3: Our earnings release will cross the wire shortly for the preliminary unaudited fourth quarter and full results of 2022 and will be shortly posted on the company's website at daptronix.com. Please note that since these are preliminary unaudited results, the company did not provide segment level detail this quarter. Final audited group.
Speaker 3: financial statements will be made available in this required 20-year filing period. With that, let me now turn the call over to Jurgen for a few opening remarks.
Speaker 4: Thank you Sam, good morning and thank you all for joining us today.
Speaker 4: In today's call, we will cover our fourth quarter in full year 2022, as well as share our outlook for 2023.
Speaker 4: Total revenue for the fourth quarter was 54.9 million, an increase of 18.6% from 46.3%.
Speaker 4: million in the fourth quarter of 2021. Total revenue for the full year 2022 was 218.5 million, an increase of 20.9% from 180.8 million in 2021. The top-line growth exceeded our expectations and was driven by continuous strength in our display solutions segment. We were pleased with our fourth quarter results.
Speaker 4: As I step back and look at the full year, we made significant strides to resolve such impacts by cost-down activities and sales price adjustments.
Speaker 4: Even so, the measures did not cover the whole year as they phased in during the course of 2022. We can already show significantly improved results in 2022.
Speaker 4: Furthermore, we did consolidate and strengthen the organization, expanding our Nuremberg facility and completing our production ramp-up, while implementing cost-savings measures to expand margins.
Speaker 4: Further improvements will face in 2023, like production, efficiency measures, shared service, savings and others.
Speaker 4: A big contributor will be the production Nuremberg running now smoothly showing that we can produce even higher quantities compared to what we planned. The production line was enhanced.
Speaker 4: to enable significantly higher throughput.
Speaker 4: Additionally, we continue to separate ourselves from competitors by further pushing our display and sensor technology as well as the camera portfolio.
Speaker 4: This enables us to fulfill the specifications of our automotive and industrial customers, which are ever-changing and advancing, and we remain in an optimal position to exceed their unique requirements. The growing demand for sunlight readable in and outdoor displays, as well as sensors and cameras, and even more.
Speaker 4: as resulted in increased order volume for the cutting edge technology solutions.
Speaker 4: We are excited about our healthy pipeline of projects with Fortune 400 companies. Additionally, we are exploring opportunities to extend our solution for car interiors with interactive display and touch functionality with industrial partners.
Speaker 4: We believe that will drive considerable growth in the future and look forward for sharing additional details later this year.
Speaker 4: as it fits the demand and the requirement of the changing automotive supply chain.
Speaker 4: Turning to our cost savings initiatives, our shared service center in the Philippines will allow us to consolidate our administrative and global services.
Speaker 4: which will drive symmetries and reduce operating expenses. And we recently kicked off our first shared services activities in the Philippines. We believe that this combination will allow us to redistribute resources and free up capital to improve business critical functions and focus on growth opportunities.
Speaker 4: in each of the three end markets. Looking ahead to 2023, it appears that elevated freight costs are beginning to ease and our measures take in...
Speaker 4: mitigate the impact going forward.
Speaker 4: In 2023, we anticipate the further realization of the previously announced performance improvements and continuously focus on higher value projects that will support margins.
Speaker 4: Going forward, we believe that these initiatives will continue to help improve our Marchant Profiling position the company for long term sustainability and profitability.
Speaker 4: despite a challenging macro environment.
Speaker 4: macroeconomic environment. There are strong structural entailments in the end markets in which we operate and we remain well positioned to capture the expanding applications and use cases for our products. The increased adoption of electronic vehicles and sophistication of applications in these vehicles support our long-term growth forecasts.
Speaker 4: and we continue to believe that we provide a critically differentiated offering to auto and industrial OEMs.
Speaker 4: With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Markus for review of our fourth quarter in full year 2022 performance and the full year outlook. Markus.
Speaker 5: Thank you Jurgen and good morning good afternoon to everyone. I will start by reviewing our financial and operating performance for the first quarter and the full year 2022. Then I'll outline our outlook for the first quarter and full year 2023. For the first quarter total revenue.
Speaker 5: our technologies revenue decreased compared to the fourth quarter of 2021 due to lower demand in the consumer and market. Gross profit margins increased to 16.6 percent from 13.7 percent in the fourth quarter of 2021.
Speaker 5: due to our actual product mix, favorable FX effects and customer-related one-time effects.
Speaker 5: Display Solutions Cross-profit Margin increased compared to the fourth quarter of 2021, despite margin pressure linked to increases in material costs, inflation, logistic expenses, as well as an overall competitive environment.
Speaker 5: Sensor technologies cross profit margin decreased due to lower post-pandemic demand and consequently lower utilization.
Speaker 5: The research and development expenses increased compared to the fourth quarter of 2021. Selling, general and administrative expenses decreased compared to the fourth quarter of 2021.
Speaker 5: To further improvements in the administrative cost structure in favor of one time effect the fixed cost could be held overall stable.
Speaker 5: Operating loss was 4.4 million in the fourth quarter 2022 compared to an operating loss of 7.7 million euros in the fourth quarter of 2021.
Speaker 5: Lots after taxes from continuing operations attributable to Viotronics AG shareholders was 6 million euros or 1.31 euro per share in the fourth quarter of 2022.
Speaker 5: compared to a lot after Texas from continuing operations attributable to via electronics AG shareholders of 8 million euros or 1 euro 77 per share in the respective quarter of 2021 If it the art loss was 2.7 million euros in the fourth quarter
Speaker 5: 2022 compared to an EBITDA of 6.1 billion euros in the fourth quarter of 2021.
Speaker 5: Display Solutions' DPT-R increase compared to the fourth quarter of 2021, driven by operation performance and non-recurring events.
Speaker 5: sensor technologies if it are decreased slightly compared to the fourth quarter of 2021 In other segments, the temperature are decreased compared to the fourth quarter of 2021.
Speaker 5: Turning to the full year financial performance, total revenue of 280.5 million euros increased by 20.9% from 180.8 million compared to 2021.
Speaker 5: The increase was mainly driven by strong performance in the disability solution segment, supported by increased demand for our solutions, especially within the automotive end-market, as well as favorable foreign exchange effects.
Speaker 5: The sensor technology's revenue decreased compared to 2021 due to especially, sorry, the sensor technology's revenue decreased compared to 2021 due to lower demand, especially in the third and fourth quarter of 2022.
Speaker 5: in the consumer end market after a record turnover in the prior year.
Speaker 5: Gross profit margin was 10.3% down from 11.3% in 2021.
Speaker 5: Our annual results were impacted by FXFX, resulting from a stronger USD compared with the Euro over the year.
Speaker 5: Display solutions cross-profit margins slightly increased compared to 2021, despite ongoing margin pressure in a highly competitive environment.
Speaker 5: Sensor technologies cross profit margin decrease compared to 2021 due to the lower post-pandemic demand and consequently lower utilization.
Speaker 5: Research and development expenses in 2022 increased due to the support of the
Speaker 5: of the company's future strategy to expand into integrated display solutions. Moreover, Germany's GBH was fully integrated into 2022 results.
Speaker 5: Selling expenses in general and administrator expenses decreased in 2022 compared to 2021 due to improved cost discipline in the administrative function and one time effects. Overall the fixed cost structure could be held stable despite an increased revenue.
Speaker 5: Operating loss was 6.7 million euros compared to an operating loss of 9.5 million euros in 2021.
Speaker 5: Lots after taxes from continuing operations attributable to via Tronix AG shareholders was 9.9 million euros or 2.17 euros per share in 2020. Two compared to a lot after taxes from continuing operations.
Speaker 5: attributable to via electronics AG shareholders of 11.8 million euros or 2 euros 59 cash in 2021
Speaker 5: Total EBITDA loss was 0.2 million euros in 2022 compared to an EBITDA loss of 3.4 million euros in 2021. This delay solutions EBITDA increased compared to 2001 driven by improved operation performance.
Speaker 5: and non-recurring effect.
Speaker 5: sensor technologies and other segments if they are decreased compared to 2021.
Speaker 5: For the first quarter of 2023,
Speaker 5: We expect total revenue in the range of about 40 to 45 million euros.
Speaker 5: For the full year 2023, the company expects the revenue to be around 2022 levels as we experience increased volatility in consumer demand.
Speaker 5: The company is increasingly focusing on profit over revenue growth and will adjust its portfolio accordingly. Here we focus on the most promising car models and applications and at the same time intensify its diversification into industrial applications.
Speaker 5: Additionally, we will continue to focus on networking capital management. We plan to continue growing our revenue over the upcoming years.
Speaker 5: but it will most likely not to be linear.
Speaker 5: This is due to increased volatility in customer demand. New project starting date.
Speaker 5: and sharpening our margin profile.
Speaker 5: We will be finished the fourth quarter with cash and cash equivalents as well as other short-term deposits of 52.4 million euros which will support our strategic growth initiatives.
Speaker 5: With that financial overview, I'd like to turn now the call back to Jurgen for a few closing comments. Jurgen. Jurgen.
Speaker 5: With that financial overview, I'd like to turn now the call back to Jurgen for a few closing comments. Jurgen. Jurgen
Speaker 4: Thank you Markus. As you heard, we went through quite challenging two years in the past and are now back on track. We prioritise profit over growth, drive efficiency and are expanding our portfolio with car interior solutions on top of our interactive display and sensor solutions.
Speaker 4: solutions, for example complete dashboards including our product portfolio. With this said, we maintain our 500 million revenue target in 2026 and feel confident about our prospects to improve profitability in 2023. Our financial discipline remains strong and we have a solid base from which we can deliver strong growth and shareholder value in the years to come.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your continued support. That concludes our prepared remarks and I'll now turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Thank you. As a reminder, if anyone would like to register a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by two.
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Speaker 2: We have a question registered from Anthony Stoss from Craig Hallam. Anthony please go ahead you line of open.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Good morning, Jurgen and Marcus. Just for housekeeping, when can we expect a full income statement with each of the lines rather than the abbreviated one?
Speaker 3: morning Jurgen Marcus. Just for housekeeping, when can we expect a full income statement with each of the lines rather than the abbreviated one put out late today?
Speaker 5: as soon as our auditors sign off the TCAOB account.
Speaker 5: So I will do that later in April . I'm sorry, later today did you say, Markus? I would practice with the publication of the F20 later in April .
Speaker 5: Okay, got it. And then Jurgen, just a moment. We have the numbers but you're not allowed to publish it.
Speaker 6: Got it. Okay. You're going on the comments in the press release that you're going to you're getting to flat revenue for 2023 to focus on more profitable business.
Speaker 6: Can you give us a sense of what your expectations are on gross margins? What you're willing to take? What do you think the full 2023 gross margin might look like?
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Speaker 4: I cannot comment on the percentage of the gross margin in this year, but what I can tell you is, and I think we disclosed that before, that we basically eliminated or discontinued some of the low margin consumer projects.
Speaker 4: that we are focusing on the higher margin projects of course, then we have at the end of the day now a working production and we work on efficiency. This is all coming together. The final margin talk remains what we have been communicating during the IPO.
Speaker 6: No, I understand the filing for the Q4. I'm just curious if you're focusing on, you're saying that the press release you want to focus on higher profit margin deals or design wins. What's your goal on gross margins? I mean, what are you not willing to take business wise and what are you willing to take business wise from a gross margin perspective? I think that's...
Speaker 4: That's probably okay. So our... Marcus? That's a complex question.
Speaker 5: yes that is a complex question
Speaker 5: need to balance your capacity that your capacity is utilized because idle capacity is the work you have. This could mean of course taking some transactions.
Speaker 5: This martian that may be at current level or lower level However to be come a profitable organization. I think that doubt that we need more profitable more higher margin deals and If not, we have internally a specific cutoff rate that is significantly that is higher than the martian step realize realize
Speaker 4: which will then come up as a mix with the new portfolio that we are planning. Maybe we can drive it the margin even higher. But what you have seen in the last two years, and this is one of the reasons why we have not been performing as we all wished, was that the automotive industry used the last two years obviously to cut margins as much as they can.
Speaker 4: on the supply chain. So this is one of the reasons why we have been affected. Now again this is why we strive for higher value applications.
Speaker 4: Of course, trying to maintain, let's say for the new projects, maintain a margin of at least 20. Hoping that this is at the end of the day in 3, 4, 5 years from now the average.
Speaker 6: It's important for us. OK. And then. OK. Go ahead. Revenues. Yeah. This is going to be for you anyways, Marcus. So maybe you can tack it on. Can you comment on how many 10% customers you had in the December quarter and what percentage your revenues was your biggest customer?
Speaker 5: How many 10%? And what percent of revenues was your single biggest customer? The single biggest customer is a well-known computer producer. Our customer is in Singapore and in China. However, it's domiciled in the USA.
Speaker 5: and has four digits, sell, as published. So that's the biggest customer, and we probably have something, a portfolio of five to 10 deals, a customer over 10%.
Speaker 7: Something between five and ten. Okay................
Speaker 7: Something between five and ten. Cool.
Speaker 5: Yes, we have to work on profiles. And it also depends how you manage the project. Sorry. All right, I'll just jump back in the queue. We can take this offline. This is over 10% on turnover. Sorry, sorry, I was... That's about five minutes. Our hourglass is now five minutes with a
Speaker 5: Customer was dealt
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was spoken here, I misunderstood you. Could you rephrase your question please? I think Tony wanted to see how many customers do we have which have a revenue share of more than 10%? That's about five, sorry. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was spoken here, I misunderstood you. Could you rephrase your question please? Sorry. I think Tony wanted to see how many customers do we have which have a revenue share of more than 10%? That's about five. Sorry. I was really on error here. I
Speaker 6: Got it. And then, maybe Jurgen, maybe you could even just ballpark this. Your biggest auto customer, what percent of their revenue were they? Max, I'm not 100% sure, but they should be in the 20% range. Would that be okay?
Speaker 4: to say or not 100% sure
Speaker 5: It's somewhere between 10 and 20.
Speaker 6: Okay. I will have to look at the numbers. Okay. Got it. Well, we can take this up offline, but I'll jump back in the queue for others to ask questions.
Speaker 4: Tony? Yes. Hello? Just a question. Are you next week or in two weeks in the Bay Area? No.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I was hoping to meet we can chat on our we can chat on our call back here in a little while But I'll just come back in case there's any other questions in the public call. Okay. I'm sorry We don't have any further questions registered Tony if you want to ask anything else
Speaker 6: No, I think I'm good for now. I'll follow up offline. Thank you.
Speaker 8: Thank you. In that case, I will now hand back to the management team for any closing remarks.
Speaker 4: I think thank you. I think at the end of the day, I think we try to cover all the questions that you could potentially have, give an overview over last year and outlook of next year. So the only thing remaining is that I thank you for the call today. As you have seen, we are excited about our future. We see new opportunities.
Speaker 4: We look forward to share these updates with you as we accelerate on our growth paths. Have a great day! Thank you! Thank you!
Speaker 8: Thank you everyone for joining today's call. You may now disconnect your lines and have a lovely day. Bye.
Speaker 8: Thank you everyone for joining today's call. You may now disconnect your lines and have a lovely day.