Q1 2023 Owens Corning Earnings Call
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Yeah.
Thanks, Amber good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us.
During our call. This morning, I will provide a broad overview of our first quarter performance and the work we're doing to further strengthen and grow our company.
Ken will then provide more details on our first quarter results and I'll come back to discuss what we're seeing in our markets and our near term outlook.
Owens Corning delivered strong first quarter results within a very dynamic market environment.
During the quarter, our global teams continue to demonstrate the ability to react and respond to shifting market conditions as we manage the impacts of ongoing inflation higher interest rates and continued geopolitical tensions which is leading to slower global economic growth and lower demand in a number of our end markets.
I will begin our review of the quarter as always with our safety performance.
I don't want to Corning, our commitment to safety is unconditional during.
During the first quarter, our recordable incident rate was <unk> 64 in line with our performance during the same period last year.
Over the past 12 months nearly one half of our global facilities have worked injury free.
Financially, we delivered revenue of $2 3 billion.
Similar to first quarter 2022.
Adjusted EBIT of $361 million and adjusted EBITDA of $487 million were both down versus prior year.
Despite facing more challenging end markets. The structural improvements we have made to our businesses combined with our leading market positions and disciplined execution positioned us to generate another quarter of strong financial results delivering an adjusted EBIT margin of 15% and adjusted EBIDTA margin of 21% for the quarter.
In terms of free cash flow in the quarter, we had a cash outflow of $322 million, reflecting a more normal seasonal cash flow trend for our company.
And consistent with our capital allocation strategy, we returned $183 million to investors through dividends and share repurchases.
In the quarter each of our segments performed well relative to market conditions, especially our north American residential business, which demonstrated the strength of our customer partnerships the value of our product lines and the power of our brand.
In insulation, we continue to realize the benefits of good price realization and solid residential insulation demand.
Suddenly impacts of slowing volumes, and our technical and global businesses and ongoing inflation.
In composites as expected, we saw the impact of customers resetting their inventory levels and slower market demand as well as production curtailments and the loss of earnings tied to our previously announced divestitures.
And in roofing, we continue to see strong demand for our products, resulting in better price realization and volumes that outperformed the market.
Our results to start the year continue to highlight the work done by our team to strengthen the earnings power of our company.
In addition to driving strong financial performance in the near term. We also continue to make strategic investments that will expand our growth potential and enhance our earnings performance.
Centered around optimizing our manufacturing networks, improving our cost positions and supporting our longer term growth goals.
Following the closure of the Santa Clara, California installation facility in Q4 as part of our network optimization initiatives. We completed the sale of the site in March and in line with our expectations have started up our expanded <unk>, Utah insulation facility. This month.
We also continue to make investments to expand our production capacity in key product lines.
To support our roofing business, we will be making a major investment in our midnight on Ohio facility to expand our laminate manufacturing capacity, including our market leading duration shingles.
This action comes on the heels of several smaller investments last year to increase productivity and capacity across our entire shingle manufacturing network to meet the growing demand for laminates shingles.
The Medina investment will transition an existing strip line to a convertible line with the ability to produce laminate shingles.
Well as needed roofing components, such as hip and rich and start of shingles, which support our residential roofing system.
We expect to have this new line up and running by the end of 2025.
Within our insulation business, we recently formalized our previously announced plans to build the new Formula and Gx manufacturing plant in Russellville, Arkansas.
Also targeted for startup in 2025, the new plant will serve the growing needs of our extruded polystyrene inflation customers.
With application spanning both residential and commercial buildings Formula and Gx provides a significant reduction in embodied carbon further contributing to our ability to create sustainable solutions for the building materials industry.
Along with our capacity investments, we continue to accelerate our product and process innovation.
During the first quarter, we launched 11, new or refreshed products spanning core platforms in our roofing insulation and composites businesses.
Of particular note was the introduction of ultra pure spray foam. The newest product line addition from natural polymers, which we acquired last summer.
This low voc's spray foam insulation product supports increasingly stringent energy codes and homeowner demand for products that contribute to healthier indoor air quality and adds to our comprehensive array of installation solutions for virtually any building environment.
These investments in additional capacity and product innovation and help our customers win and grow in the market improve our operating efficiencies and create new growth opportunities for our company further strengthening our market leading positions.
As we continue to grow our company, we remain committed to operating at the highest standard and winning in the market the right way and.
In March we were recognized by Ethisphere as one of 2023 worlds most ethical companies, marking the sixth consecutive year, we've been recognized with this honor.
Owens Corning was one of just two honorees in the construction and building materials industry.
Underscoring our commitment to leading with integrity and prioritizing ethical business practices.
Finally, before I turn it over to Ken.
Like to provide an update on our sustainability efforts, which continue to generate multiple advantages by creating additional growth opportunities and helping to fulfill our company's mission and purpose.
We are proud to be issuing our 17th annual sustainability report next month, which will highlight our ongoing aspirations to double the positive impact of our products.
Have our environmental footprint protect our people advanced inclusion and diversity and make a positive impact in the communities, where we work and live.
Sustainability has long been core to who we are and how we operate serving as an important driver and differentiator for our company.
I encourage you to review our report upon publication as it highlights the efforts and achievements of our 19000 employees across the World who are working every day in service of our mission to build a sustainable future through material innovation.
With that view of our performance and strategic initiatives I will now turn it over to Ken to discuss our financial results in more detail.
Ken.
Thanks, Brian and good morning, everyone as Brian commented, we delivered another strong quarter in an increasingly challenging economic environment.
Our commercial and operational execution continues to be fundamental in driving this performance.
As we've talked about in prior calls inflation, while beginning to moderate continues to have a year over year impact on overall input cost.
Positive carryover pricing offset these inflation headwinds in the quarter and all three businesses and helped to offset the impact of lower demand, including the associated production downtime.
Beginning on slide five we can take a closer look at our results.
Consolidated net sales were $2 3 billion for the first quarter consistent with the same period in 2022.
Adjusted EBIT for the first quarter of 2023 was $361 million.
Down $56 million compared to the first quarter last year.
Adjusted EBIT margin remains solid at 15%.
Adjusted earnings for the first quarter were $255 million or $2 77 per diluted share compared to $293 million or $2 92 per diluted share a year ago.
Slide six shows the reconciliation between our first quarter 2023, adjusted and reported EBIT.
For the quarter adjusting items totaled approximately $173 million we.
We recognized $189 million gain on the previously announced sale of our Santa Clara, California site.
We also recognized $2 million of gains on the sale of precious metals.
And in addition, we recorded $18 million of charges associated with ongoing cost optimization actions.
All of these items are excluded from our first quarter adjusted EBIT.
Turning to slide seven I'll comment on our cash generation and capital deployment.
Free cash flow for the first quarter was a net outflow of $322 million driven by the timing of working capital and capital additions as we return to more normal seasonal patterns within our businesses.
Capital additions for the first quarter were $158 million or 7% of revenue up $51 million from 2022.
We remain focused on reducing our capital intensity over time through productivity and process innovations as a result, our return on capital was 20% for the 12 months ending March 31 2023.
At quarter end, the company had liquidity of approximately $1 8 billion, consisting of $757 million of cash and nearly $1 1 billion of combined availability on our bank debt facilities.
During the first quarter, we returned $183 million to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends.
We repurchased one 5 million shares of common stock for $135 million and paid a cash dividend totaling $48 million.
We remain focused on consistently generating strong free cash flow returning approximately 50% to investors over time, and maintaining an investment grade balance sheet, while executing our business strategies to grow our company.
Now turning to slide eight I'll provide more details on the performance of each of the businesses.
The insulation business started the year strong with top and bottom line growth in both technical and global installation as well as North America residential.
Q1 revenues were $919 million, a 7% increase over the first quarter of 2022, and EBIT grew more than 20% year over year.
We continued to see solid realization on announced pricing actions and favorable mix across the business offsetting ongoing inflation.
In technical and global installation revenue grew slightly as a result of positive price as well as favorable mix, primarily within our global mineral wool business.
Volumes were down versus prior year due to demand softening tied to the broader macroeconomic environment and currency translation continued to be a headwind.
Additionally, we saw the first full quarter of impact from the sale of our installation operations in Russia.
North American residential insulation growth was the result of positive pricing and incremental revenue from the natural polymers acquisition.
Volumes for residential fiberglass were down slightly in the quarter versus prior year.
EBIT for the first quarter was $156 million up $27 million compared to 2022.
Positive price and mix more than offset ongoing inflation the impact of lower volumes and the previously communicated incremental cost of planned maintenance and downtime and production investments.
Overall insulation delivered EBIT margins of 17% in the first quarter.
Now please turn to slide nine for a summary of our composites business.
In the first quarter, the composites business continued to experience the impact of the softer macro environment, resulting in lower demand.
Sales for the quarter were $585 million down 18% compared to the prior year as lower volumes and continued headwinds from currency translation were partially offset by higher selling prices.
EBIT for the quarter was $49 million down $105 million from the same period a year ago.
The EBIT decline was primarily due to lower volumes and the associated production downtime as well as inflation in manufacturing costs, which were partially offset by higher selling prices.
Additionally, the sale of our ducks manufacturing assets in Chonburi, France, and our operations in Russia last year contributed to the year over year EBIT decline.
Overall composites delivered 8% EBIT margins for the quarter.
Slide 10 provides an overview of our roofing business.
The roofing business delivered strong first quarter top and bottom line performance sales in the quarter were $895 million up 7% as compared to the prior year.
Positive price realization was partially offset by mid single digit volume declines.
The U S asphalt shingle market on a volume basis was down 22% compared to the prior year with demand for our U S shingle volumes outperforming the market.
For the quarter EBIT was $209 million up $33 million with positive price, partially offset by ongoing inflation the impact of higher manufacturing costs, primarily related to downtime taken in Q4 and lower volumes.
EBIT margins remained strong at 23%.
Slide 11 summarizes our full year 2023 outlook for key financial items, all of which remain unchanged from our guidance provided in February .
General corporate expenses are expected to range between 195 and $205 million.
Interest expense is estimated to range between 95 and $105 million.
Our full year effective tax rate is expected to be 24% to 26% of adjusted pretax earnings and our cash tax rate is expected to be 26% to 28% of adjusted pretax earnings.
Finally capital additions are expected to be approximately $520 million, which is at or below anticipated depreciation and amortization estimated to range between 520 and $530 million.
Now please turn to slide 12, and I'll turn the call back to Brian to further discuss our outlook Brian .
Thank you Ken.
Our first quarter performance provided us with a strong start to 2023, demonstrating the broad capabilities of our teams and the value of our products.
As we move through Q2, we expect market conditions to remain more challenging as we see residential commercial and industrial investment decisions.
As well as consumer buying patterns continue to be impacted by higher interest rates and slower economic growth.
While we expect these factors to influence our performance over the near term.
Secular trends in housing energy efficiency and the need for more sustainable building and construction materials continue to create significant growth opportunities for the company.
Given the near term market outlook, we expect our volumes in the second quarter to decline versus prior year and many of our product categories based on slower underlying market demand.
Pricing is expected to remain positive in the quarter as we continue to realize the benefits of carryover pricing from previously announced actions.
Given this and the expectation for a more moderate inflationary environment, we anticipate offsetting the impact of ongoing input cost inflation and maintain a positive price cost in the quarter.
Overall for the company, we expect our performance in Q2 to result in a moderate decline in net sales versus prior year, while we continue to generate mid teen EBIT margins.
Now consistent with prior calls I will provide a more detailed business specific outlook for the second quarter.
Starting with our installation business, we expect revenue to be similar to prior year as continued price realization and the net impact of acquisitions and divestitures offsets lower demand, resulting from the decline in lagged housing starts in the U S as well as the ongoing market slowdown in Europe .
And our technical and global insulation businesses, we expect continued price realization, resulting from our previously announced increases to more than offset lower volumes tied to the broader macro environment in Europe as well as softer demand in North America.
In our North American residential insulation business, we anticipate continued price realization on our previously announced increases to be more than offset by lower demand versus prior year as builders worked through their backlog and demand for installation begins to track closer to lagged housing starts.
From a cost perspective, we expect inflation from materials and energy to continue to moderate but remain a headwind in the quarter with price cost remaining positive.
We also expect to see planned maintenance downtime and production investments similar to Q1.
Given all this we expect to deliver mid teens EBIT margins for the business.
Moving on to composites in the second quarter, we expect revenue to be down low double digits versus prior year as volume declines begin to improve versus the prior two quarters.
The quarter will also be impacted by last year's exit and sale of the ducks product line and Russian operation.
We anticipate composites pricing will be relatively flat as we see favorable contract pricing offset by reductions in spot pricing.
While we expect inflation to moderate we anticipate price cost will be a headwind in the quarter.
We expect overall volumes to be down versus prior year, but do you see demand trends stabilizing in our key regions as customer inventory levels have been reset.
As we evaluate market conditions, we will continue to be proactive in adjusting our production to anticipated demand levels.
Overall, we expect EBIT margins of low double digits in the second quarter.
And in roofing, we anticipate revenue to be down modestly with arm of market shipments expected to be down mid single digits versus prior year.
We would anticipate our shingle volumes in the quarter to track largely in line with the market.
We expect inflation to be fairly neutral in the quarter as we have seen cost moderate and some of our input materials.
While asphalt costs have begun to increase as we enter into paving season, we expect the year over year impact to be slightly deflationary and partially offset inflation from other input materials and higher manufacturing cost.
From a price cost perspective, we expect to deliver another positive quarter based primarily on price carryover from previously announced increases but narrowing from Q1.
Overall for roofing, we anticipate generating EBIT margins in the quarter similar to Q1.
With that view of our businesses I'll turn to a few enterprise items.
While we expect the shifting macro environment to continue to impact our end markets in the near term.
The structural improvements we have made and continue to make in our businesses combined with our leading market positions and disciplined execution.
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In addition, we continue to execute our enterprise strategy as we make investments to strengthen our position in core products and markets expand into new product adjacencies that leverage our material science market and manufacturing expertise.
And develop more multi material and prefabricated construction solutions.
Each of these strategic pillars creates new growth opportunities as we expand our building and construction material product offering.
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We've also built an incredibly strong balance sheet, which we plan to leverage as we continue investing to strengthen long term performance of the company through a balanced capital allocation strategy focused on investments, which drive organic growth and productivity.
Acquisitions, which leverage our unique material science market and manufacturing expertise and returning approximately 50% of free cash flow to shareholders over time through dividends and share repurchases.
In closing our team delivered strong first quarter results in a very dynamic market environment.
We remain committed to operating safely, helping our customers win and grow in the market and creating value for our shareholders. As we continue to deliver on our financial commitments and strengthen our company for the future.
With that we'd like to open it up for questions.
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Our first question today comes from Matthew Bouley from Barclays. Matthew. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Yeah.
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the question.
Maybe I'll just ask on roofing and sort of your own volume outperformance relative to the industry. Just curious if you can add a little more.
Detail around that driver, what's sort of happening with geographies and whether that may have resulted in that and as we look out sort of forecast over the next year should we kind of expect that to reverse at some point. Thank you.
Hey, good morning, Thanks for the question.
Yes, certainly demand for Oc products has remained very strong to start the year I think what we're seeing in Q1 is a very similar dynamic to what we saw play out in Q4 really driven by two factors one is the.
The level of Oc inventory at distributors relative to other brands and then continued good strong contractor pull through demand increasing out the door sales. So I think those two factors played in both Q4 and Q1, so I wanted to step back a little because we've talked about this over the past few earnings call I think in roofing in particular.
Where we were looking at inventory levels to finish the year, we had talked about distributors starting to be much more selective selective in the products and brands. They were buying they were looking to rightsize inventory levels two to end the year.
And we saw that the level of inventory of our products and distribution channels broadly needed to be continue to be restocked and so that drove some additional sales for us in Q4 as they were closing out the year. We saw that dynamic really kind of continue to play out in Q1, which is as inventory levels were being right.
<unk> to set up for the new year, I think again inventory levels of OTC products remained very lean and distribution channels. So there needed to be continued restocking to get ready for that.
At the heart of the season, which we're just starting to come into so I think that was a big play over the last couple of quarters.
And then continued good demand in outdoor sales of our products and we continue to invest in our contractor <unk>.
Conversion strategy, and helping those contractors and distributors build their businesses around our products our brands and create good demand dynamics for our products. So I think both are playing out I do think in terms of your comments around going forward. We've guided in Q2 that we think largely inventory levels are right sized for both our products and other products.
And the channel.
So we think now it's going to be more factor run out the door sales I would say that the last couple of quarters. The dynamics of distributor buying versus sellout has been fairly lopsided in other words, we've seen much less buying and the sellout trends in distribution has been a little stronger. We think we saw that in Q1 as well. So as we go forward I would expect to.
See that the buying trends would more closely correlate to sellout trends of distribution for our products and other products going forward. So I think given given all of that we think the inventory levels are being set up for a good year in roofing, even though we saw Q1 kind of a step down on a year over year basis.
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Buying of materials in Q1 was still relatively strong and we still think we're set up for good roofing here.
Okay.
Thank you next.
Next question is from Kathryn Thompson from Thompson Research Group Catherine. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Alright, Thank you for taking my questions.
If you could clarify how much the divested businesses impacted segment earnings in the quarter and expectations for the year and any color on the strategy of pricing negotiations for composites.
How this impacts the 'twenty outlook is and.
Taking there.
Not as part of this pricing that also kind of been bleaching side and how that impacts your outlook for composites. Thank you.
Yeah.
Thanks, Kathryn and good morning.
Let's talk about the divestitures piece first we've sized pretty clearly the revenue side of that equation, we said that.
The divestiture of our ducks assets in Chonburi, France was about $100 million of revenue per year, and the Russia assets were very similar number about $100 million of revenue per year per year, and I think you can think about that pretty ratably over the quarters as far as the profitability.
Are those.
I would I would probably characterize it as this prop.
Probably had a profitability level last year similar to the profitability level of composites overall, maybe slightly better on the DUC side, just because it was a very very strong demand year, but with that you should probably be able to kind of size it pretty closely as to how it will affect us as we move through each one.
In the quarters and to remind you that ducks divestiture was done mid year, while Russia was effectively done at the end of the year. So you'll have the impacts from that one throughout all four quarters as we think about pricing.
A couple of the comments that both I made and Brian made is that we've seen good contract pricing continue through.
About two thirds of our composites business is tied to contracts and.
Another piece of information to think about as you're thinking about that is is that when we think about where contracts are contracts are more heavily weighted to Europe and North America, while Asia is a bit more of a spot pricing market. So as you think about how those play together while contract pricing has held in nicely.
Based upon what we negotiated coming into 2023, we have seen more pressure in the spot pricing business that as Brian commented on the outlook, we would expect spot pricing.
Pressure in the second quarter to offset the continued positive contribution from contract pricing, but in different markets and different.
And different product lines and give you that background there may be a little bit more of that color because on your question around how do we see this progressing as we move into kind of contract negotiations or our contract discussions I would say as we move through the year it'll be very specific depending on the the regions that we're having these con.
Track discussions about and based upon what we're seeing right now we're consenting to see good volumes in North America, we actually saw volumes in North American composites increase year over year in the first quarter, we saw European Europe stepped down but it was.
In line with what we had seen through the balance of the last couple of quarters in 'twenty two.
Asia will probably be a little bit more of a dynamic and thats, where we will probably see more spot pricing headwinds, but where we're optimistic that with the quality of the products with our relationships with customers with our proximity to customers that weren't providing very importantly, what we've talked about since kind of the end of 2021 an hour.
At Investor Day, as we move down the curb or out the curve on providing not just the composites products, but providing value solutions that really helps us as we are discussing with our customers.
What we're going to put into the contracts because then it becomes much more about not just price, but also with how we work with them to get them exactly what we need at the right time in the right place. So so far for the year feeling good about contract and we'll watch spot pricing really closely.
I'll, let Brian comment on the roofing side of this impact as well.
Yes.
The roofing side of the impact of the pricing on composites are we anticipating any significant moves on because of whats happening in the roofing markets for composites pricing no no nothing yes, and I would add on that no.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Next question is from.
From Jefferies. Please go ahead your line is open.
Hey, guys. Congrats on another strong quarter Bryan I think last quarter. You mentioned you had backlogs that would carry through the second quarter for fiberglass inflation I think the early rate for spring selling season has been pretty constructive so far when we start seeing that ripple through to the second half and kind of how do you see this demand backdrop.
Playing out front half back half going into next year and any concerns that we should be mindful of on the destocking side of things on the inventory side.
Yes, thanks, Phil.
Installation business delivered another good quarter I think a big factor that was the strength of the residential insulation business and this is also a trend I think we've been talking about the last several quarters that.
We've seen this continuation of strength, even though we've seen headline starts dropping over the past few quarters. We've seen good strong demand in resin installation I think this goes back to when we look at how starts were ramping up in 'twenty, one and the first part of 2022.
We saw starts accelerating but really started looking at completion rates and they have topped out at about $1 4 million units and we've seen them kind of hold there throughout all of 2022, and we think thats really been the constraint of demand for insulation and some other building material products is the ability for builders to complete their homes. So we saw extended can.
Struction cycles due to labor constraints material constraints really impacting in that so as we came into this year.
Even though headline starts have been down completion rates have been staying pretty steady and we saw that that backlog of homes to be finish was going to continue to create good demand in Q1 and.
And we saw that kind of play out as part of our guide we're starting to look across the country and we see now regions, where those completion rates are getting cleared builders are working through their backlog and so we do see as we move into the back half of the year, we're probably going to start trending more towards our historic metric, which is light housing starts versus the.
<unk> rates, that's going to drive the demand going forward now having said that I mean, the last couple of months, we've seen housing starts and permits at or above that $1 4 million unit rate.
And which is encouraging in terms of kind of flattening any kind of a downturn in terms of demand impact us in the back half.
And while we've seen some a completion rates increasing those had been mostly mostly around multifamily not single family. So single family completion rates seem to be kind of a study in terms of what they've been running the last several quarters. So if you kind of play that all through we think that.
If housing starts continue to trend at that around one 4 million units as we move forward, even when we start to convert to demand for our products driven more by light housing starts we think thats a very good constructive market for demand and that would certainly minimize any impact for us in the back half and going into the next year.
A couple of broad comments I'd say is that.
Even if we do see some near term Choppiness I've said this repeatedly as well we think any kind of downturn is going to be short lived in terms of depth duration because of just the fundamental and then need for more housing Democrat demographic drivers, there's really no inventory in the channel that needs to be worked through so and we're starting to see I think.
Consumers reset to the 6% kind of interest rates that are coming back in the market, which is why I think we've seen some pretty good prints on housing starts and permits for last couple of months. So I think I think that would say this might we might see some some demand slowdown as we move in the back half of the year, but we would expect it's going to be fairly short lived I'd say the last piece just that.
Macro level to that that creates a new potential tailwind to the business is within the inflation reduction Act that was passed there is a section in there around tax credits for energy investments, including installation.
We think that could create some re insulation opportunities for us as we move into the back half of the year and consumers and homeowners become more aware of that tax credit. We last saw this play out for us after the last housing prices as part of some legislation. There are also tax credits and we saw a pretty good realization rates by homeowners taking advantage of that so we think.
That can be another demand mitigate or any slowdown in new construction that create some opportunities for us as we move through the back half of the year and into 2024.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you next.
Next question is from Jon <unk> from UBS. John . Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my question.
I guess.
Carryover pricing has been pretty favorable across each of the businesses can you maybe talk about the opportunities for incremental pricing actions as we move through the year.
Yeah.
John I would say I think our commercial teams have done really exceptional work across the company to manage price.
Through a very challenging environment of high inflation environment over the over the last several quarters. So as we come into this year. We continue to look at the demand environment. We continue to look at the inflationary environment and we will continue to make decisions then in terms of additional pricing actions that are required.
You might have seen we recently announced an increase in our roofing business with an effective date of mid May we continue to look at the inflation drivers.
In our roofing business overall, while while we think we're going to see a little bit of benefit here in the near term on lower asphalt costs, we're still seeing inflation in our other materials and frankly concerned about some of the supply cuts and other things that are going on in the oil markets that could create some some.
Supply constraints as we move into the back half of the year. So I think we're managing that in terms of the inflation, we see in front of US we've made that announcement and we'll see how that plays out in terms of realization or we're three.
Three weeks four weeks away from that implementation, but I think we're going to continue to manage our pricing.
Pricing very similar going forward as we have demonstrated historically here over the past several quarters and we'll make those calls as we need to as we move forward.
Okay.
Thank you.
Next question is from.
Sure.
Stephen Kim.
From Evercore Steven. Please go ahead your line is open.
Yes, thanks, very much guys. Good good results.
Wanted to ask a question about installation and in particular on the technical side of that business.
You've spent a lot of time and gave a lot of color around the resi North America.
But I'm curious about the price performance in the segment.
It suggests that you've had some very good pricing.
In the other part of your business in the technical side of the business. So I wanted to see if you could explain a little bit more about what the dynamics are there because I think the fiber glass in North America is pretty well understood.
But it seems like you've achieved some very good pricing.
The international markets I think you called out per rock.
Also having some good pricing help us understand sort of what's driving the pricing outside of rights in North America.
Yeah.
Yeah. Thanks, Steve I appreciate the comments and yes, we've had very good performance in our technical and global businesses within insulation.
And in fact have been working not just in terms of the pricing actions, but the innovation and other aspects to really to strengthen that part of the business and as you rightly call out that's now about two thirds of the insulation business and this has been an area of focused investment for us over the past several years to really kind of strengthen our product line, our mineral wool foam glass.
Home product.
Product lines that are.
Big opportunities for us that we think we can continue to grow and develop so as you pointed out about two thirds of that business is really focused in nonresidential applications and we're fortunate because of the breadth of our product offering we operate in a lot of different commercial industrial type of.
Verticals, so not just office buildings, but we're in the data centers and airports and health care facilities, so that that wide variety and a lot of industrial applications that wide variety of end markets have given us the ability to.
Generate I think really good results.
Key part of this business that we really like and historically, we've seen is while we generally see earnings movements around volumes that can move up and down as much more much less sorry price sensitive and that's because a lot of these products are specified embedded into applications that provide unique performance characteristics.
A thermal performance structural performance so that gives us the ability to price these relative to the values in those price points generally are.
More sticky than we've seen historically in some of our residential applications. So.
When I look kind of I'll take Europe , we we've seen good.
Performance by our European team really in a very challenging market. So we expected that our volumes in Europe would step down as we started the year given the macroeconomic economic environment, we've seen that played out.
But again, we're maintaining very strong price costs and this was work by the team last year and if you recall last year, we kind of lagged.
Price cost to start the year, we got on top of that mid year and then we've seen those price points are holding market and now that we've gotten on top of that we're seeing good price cost performance. So I think we're managing through the dynamics of demand, but we've seen demand I would say step down in Q1, but we're seeing things stable and we'd expect demand.
To stay fairly stable as we move through the first part of the year in Europe around these products in North America, we saw a little bit of a step down in volumes again to start the year tied to just a general slowdown in commercial industrial applications broadly.
But again very moderate in terms of that step down and we've been able to manage price very well. The team has done a great job there and so we've been able to maintain a positive price cost mix, even with some of that step down. So I think as sport, we're expecting that our commercial industrial markets are going to continue to generate good results.
We're going to be managing through we think some near term volume slowdowns.
As projects get reset last thing I'd say, there is one product category, particularly our phone glass.
Where we have actually seen demand stay very solid for us and we're seeing kind of a growing backlog and quoting activity and this is a product line that gets used in industrial segments and LNG segments, and I think we're seeing a real uplift both in Europe and the U S markets around that application and we think thats going to drive some <unk>.
Both for us going forward. So overall I think we're well position, we like the product line and we've seen very good execution by our team there.
Thank you.
Next question is from Keith Hughes from Trinidad Keith. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Thank you for your question on roofing and asphalt are kind of in the prepared comments you talk about how we're heading into the paving season, there's usually some inflation.
So as we get into that I guess my question for year over year.
Your expectation on your asphalt inputs over the next quarter or two based on where the industry is right now.
Yeah. Thanks, Keith so we.
Asphalt costs coming into the year.
Starting to pick up on a month over month basis, we guided to that as far as Q1. So we saw those asphalt costs month over month pick up in our Q2 guide we expect to see that continue traditionally and historically when we're coming into the paving season. The summer season, we see asphalt cost move up majority of asphalt are used in paving not in <unk>.
Applications, so that tends to drive a lot of the cost structure in the business and we would expect that we're going to see a pretty heavy paving season with the infrastructure investments that are being made by states and federal government so well.
We're expecting that our asphalt costs are going to continue to move up sequentially on a year over year basis, though we do expect to see a little bit of deflation.
In the quarter in terms of our overall asphalt cost and I'd say as we move forward over the next couple of quarters, we would expect to see paving costs continue to move up in line with just seasonal demand patterns and the big concern is again kind of the supply cuts that have been announced how those are going to impact oil prices, which which ultimately then.
Impact asphalt costs and Thats it.
None that we're going to have to play through as we move into the back half of the year.
Okay.
Thank you.
Next question is from Michael Rehaut from Jpmorgan. Michael. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Thanks.
Everyone and congrats on the results from the first quarter.
I wanted to zero in a little bit on composites and.
Youre expecting revenues down low double digits, but some.
Some better EBIT margins are also low double digits.
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We wanted to get a sense of.
Yeah.
Thats purely driven by perhaps a potentially higher.
Revenue number it looks like low double digits down would be.
Decently higher than the last couple of quarters.
And if theres anything.
That we should think about.
From this new low double digit EBIT margin in the second quarter that might be still.
Still holding back performance.
As we think about going into the back half of the year.
Yes, Thanks, Mike.
Thanks for the questions and let's just kind of take each one of those apart a little bit.
You've really focused in on one of the really important point. So as we're thinking about moving from Q1 to Q2, and we'll talk about that around composites, specifically around your question, which is.
What is really driving that step up now you've called out one thing that's absolutely one of the one of the driver of it. So that's going to help us step up those margins closer to back to where we think this business runs in the long term, which is in the mid teens operating margin rate and that is better volumes right and we're seeing we're anticipating to see a little bit step up of <unk>.
Volumes in North America, we would expect sequentially volumes to be a bit higher in Asia part of that driven by just how Chinese new year falls in the fact that the second quarter wont be dealing with that but certainly volumes are one of the drivers.
One of the important things to think about also is energy cost and energy cost as we saw at peak.
Specifically in Europe in the last quarter of last year.
We also talked about on the last call that while we're seeing energy costs peak. We were also seeing our customers start to kind of.
Let's say rationalize or make sure that they had the right levels of inventory on hand, so it pulled back a little bit on their buying patterns. As we finished the fourth quarter. Therefore, just think about how that works we ended up with a bit more inventory on our books that we were carrying over into the first quarter that actually had that higher energy costs.
It because it kind of gets built into the inventory value that then rolls out as that product goes out the door and hits the P&L.
So that was one of the variables that caused the step down in operating margins between Q4 and Q1 and certainly that's that's what we saw that's what we anticipated and as as we noted the business performed pretty much exactly like we had guided for the first quarter now as we go to Q2.
As we all know about watching energy cost not only in the U S, but in Europe those.
Those rates per TGF and or the rates in the U S.
Have stepped down pretty sizable not only year over year, but before the peak levels or at the end of 2022. So we feel really confident that the part of our step up that's not only volume related because we feel good about that but our step up in performance due to the fact that we're kind of absorbing and have absorbed.
This higher energy costs as we move through Q3 Q4 last year into Q1 will provide us a lift as well and if if energy rates stay where they are.
We would expect that to continue to.
<unk> be a positive.
A contributor to margin performance in the composites business as we move through the year, so kind of I'll wrap up the comment to say because you did ask about what does this mean for things that are holding back our performance and I kind of take that and we will say what that means to me is the fact that the question is do we really believe.
We're going to see this business moved back towards the mid teens operating margin performance that we saw in 2022 and the answer is solidly yes. I mean, we are absorbing the fact that markets declined we absorbed kind of some some downtime and curtailment to adjust to those margins, we'll see a little bit more of that in Q2, we're certainly seeing the.
Kind of absorbing that higher energy costs flow through our business and we're seeing volumes kind of.
I wont across the board say bottomed out, but certainly what we're seeing is some incremental improvements as we move forward. So we feel really good about how the composites team has executed through the headwinds that they've seen kind of come on them in Q3 Q4 into Q1, and we feel like this business is tracking towards getting back to exactly where we've said it's going to be through.
All the structural improvements and then pivoting as we say to more value.
Solutions, which is mid teens operating margins.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Next question is from Anthony Pettinari from Citi. Anthony. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Good morning. This is Greg Andrea Uplifts on for Anthony Thanks for the detailed discussion and thanks for taking my question.
So you have some sizable expansionary projects in the pipeline for installation and I think in Arkansas in roofing in Ohio I'm just.
Wondering what type of cost curve gains you can realize from projects like this and if theres a targeted level of returns for projects of this size, whether it be IRR ROIC or another returns metric.
Just a quick kind of follow on a related question I'm wondering what makes projects like these more attractive than bolt on M&A in the current marketplace and if you could maybe just touch on what youre seeing in the current M&A landscape.
Whether there is a shortage or a surplus of opportunities valuations and any color you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Well I'll start out and then I'll, let Bryan kind of take the M&A part of this but what I would say is that as you think about these projects and we've outlined as you said.
Some installation projects. We're also in the midst of building out a nonwovens facility also in Arkansas for the composites business.
We look at each one of these and you can imagine the points that you lay out.
What are the returns what's the commercial market look like and what does that create as far as an IRR or a discounted cash flow every one of these things are positive to that contribution and it's not just that the project itself has the right financial metrics, but as we look at it we really start from what is the strategy.
Do you have where we're trying to grow and you've heard Brian say, many times building out our material science capability on our manufacturing processes. So we kind of start about how are we going to continue to grow and expand from the businesses that we have today again, we laid that out in November of 2021, and our Investor day, and therefore as we look at these.
Projects, we say not only does it have good financial returns, but it fits that strategy.
And so these all have those kind of returns and we're confident that they will deliver exactly how we laid out laid out the investment to go both from an investment side as well as the return side now as we think about M&A.
You won't be surprised to hear it's not necessarily a choice of do we do all our growth projects internally for organic growth or do we look at things on the M&A front, but there's things in both buckets and part of our job is to look at that to look at.
How do we grow this business organically and then how do we look at the M&A landscape and pick those things that add onto our portfolio to build ourselves out exactly how we lay out the strategy.
I would add here I think when we look at our balanced capital allocation strategy. We're really focused on three big pillars. One is to continue to invest in organic growth and productivity initiatives and these organic growth projects for us we see great opportunities in the market to grow within those product lines.
Strengthen our core positions and generate great returns as Ken talked about so that's a key part of our capital allocation strategy to always look internally in terms of growth and productivity initiatives, where we can drive the performance of the business I think the second big part of that is to look through and look at <unk>.
Acquisitions that can expand.
And broadened our capabilities in the new product Adjacencies that really leverage our material science capabilities, our marketing our manufacturing capabilities. I think you saw that a little bit in some of the acquisitions. We did last year in terms of we've moved into a decking category, which we think provides great structural lumber growth opportunities in our.
Posit material, we expanded into new insulation materials. So I think were were targeted around those product adjacencies that we think we can grow at a faster rate and really kind of strengthen the overall performance of those businesses within our company and then the third one is also always looking at how we return.
Cash back to shareholders and so we have a very balanced approach to return approximately 50% over time through dividends share repurchases. So I think we kind of evaluate our capital allocation choices around those three.
<unk> and make decisions that we think are going to be in the best long term interest of the company in terms of growth and performance and the shareholders in terms of value creation.
Thank you.
Last question, we have time for today comes from Susan Mcclary from Goldman Sachs. Susan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Thank you good morning, everyone.
Perhaps building on your comments in the last question can you talk a bit about the cash generation of the business, especially as conditions normalize and how youre thinking about the level of free cash flow you can generate here relative to where we were prior to the pandemic.
Sure. So I think we've been very pleased with the performance of the businesses our focus on working capital our focus on reducing the capital intensity within the company.
This has resulted to very strong operating cash flow performance.
Last year, I think tapping close to $1 8 billion in terms of operating cash flow free cash flow last year about $1 3 billion.
Close to end at around 100% conversion rates and so those are the metrics that we look at to say, we think we have we've created a company and build an operating structure that can continue to generate very strong operating cash flow is very strong free cash flows that give us the opportunities as I talked about in my last answer to it.
And deploy that cash across that those those capital allocation priorities. So we feel we've built a great engine within the company in terms of working capital management Capex management and operating performance, that's going to continue to generate strong operating and free cash flows as we go forward.
And I think it's important to point out and maybe I'll add on just a little bit to that.
The performance of the business.
Cash flow perspective, so as Brian pointed out really good working capital performance I think there was concerns coming into this inflationary cycle that our pricing mechanisms may not have been where people had anticipated them to be to always recover that inflation and we've been able to do that consistently since the started in the middle.
<unk> 2020, but I want to point out is also think about the free cash flow generation that we've done in the last couple of years in light of our cash tax rate also stepping up as you know that.
Over the last decade, or so we've been operating with that we had been operating with a a cash tax loss carryforward in the U S that we basically exhausted so where he saw our cash tax rate in the U S. Go from essentially zero to something more of a normalized number and I think that just further attributes kind of good work.
By the business overall on making sure that we are.
Focused on the profitability of our products getting them to the market the right way and also managing that working capital really closely and also the last point is as we think about reducing capital intensity over time, you can send to you see us tick that down we were at about 7% a few years ago last year I think we ran about four five.
Two 5%. So we continue to focus on all of those things that ensure that pretty much in all all environments. We're generating really really strong cash flows or growing the profitability of this business and sustaining mid teens operating margins.
Thank you. This is all the time, we have for questions today, So I'd like to hand back to Brian <unk> for any closing remarks.
Thanks, Jayson and really just want to say thanks to everyone for your time today and your questions. We appreciate your interest in Owens Corning and look forward to speaking with you again during our second quarter call. So thanks and have a great day.
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Thank you everyone for joining today's call you may now disconnect your line and have a lovely day.
Okay.