Q1 2023 Velo3D Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker 2: for 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I'll now turn over the call.
Speaker 2: to Mr. Bob Ocensky, Vice President of Investor Relations at Vellow 3D Corporation. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'd like to welcome everyone to our first quarter of 2023 earnings conference call. On the call today, we will start out with comments from Benny Bullert, CEO of Vela3D, who will provide a summary of the quarter as well as an update on certain key strategic priorities for 2023.
Speaker 3: Following Benny's comments, Bill DeKombe, our CFO , will then review our first quarter 2023 financial results and provide our guidance.
Speaker 3: As a reminder, every play of this call will be available later today on the Investur Relations page of our website.
Speaker 3: During today's call, we will make four looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties that we're describing in the State Barbara slide of today's presentation. Today's press release, as well as our 2022-10K and additional SEC filings.
Speaker 3: Please see those documents for additional information regarding those factors that may affect these four looking statements.
Speaker 3: during today's call.
Speaker 3: Please refer to the appendix of our presentation as follows today's earnings press release for the appropriate gap to non-gap reconciliation.
Speaker 3: Finally, to enhance this call, we have also posted a set of PowerPoint slides, which we will reference during the call, on the events and presentations page of our Investor Relations website.
Speaker 3: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Benny Vuller, CEO of Bella3D. Benny?
Speaker 3: Thanks Bob and I'd like to welcome everyone to our first quarter earnings call. We remain very excited about the overall opportunity for additive manufacturing and that the technology is rapidly changing the way high value metal parts are manufactured across the world. Our ability to capitalize on this opportunity is the key driver behind our significant growth, which
Speaker 3: in term is enabling us to accelerate a path to profitability.
Speaker 3: I would now like to discuss the specifics of our first quarter. Please turn to slide 3.
Speaker 3: For the quarter, revenue more than doubled year over year to 27 million dollars. This performance reflects not only strong customer demand for our technology, but also our ability to rapidly scale our business and production operations. Operationally, we executed well as we further ramped production of our SEFA XC and SEFA XC-1MZ products to meet increasing demand for new and existing customers for these systems.
Speaker 3: This production success was a delightful result of the efficiency initiatives we put in place over the last six months.
Speaker 3: Additionally, bookings rose more than 30% sequentially to 20 million dollars and reflect strong customer demand for our technology.
Speaker 3: With our first quarter bookings and book backlog of $24 million, we believe we have increasing confidence to achieve our second quarter and fiscal year 2023 goals.
Speaker 3: Finally, our path to profitability remains on track as improved operational efficiency enabled us to expand our margins while reducing adjusted operating expenses. As a result, we significantly improved our net cash flow by more than 50% sequentially.
Speaker 3: Excelling our cash focus for the quarter. We remain committed to approaching break even in the fourth quarter. We feel.
Speaker 3: I would not like to briefly discuss why we remain confident in achieving our Q2 and 2023 revenue targets.
Speaker 3: And like to briefly discuss why we remain confident in achieving our Q2 and 2023 revenue targets. Turning to slide 4.
Speaker 3: As I previously mentioned, our 2023 conference is driven by the fact that we have significant visibility for the field. In addition, we expect to see ongoing strong demand for both our SEFA and SEFA access systems, as customers continue to choose our industry-leading technology for their AM needs.
Speaker 3: This chart provides a detailed breakdown of our Q2 and 2023 revenue expectations by category.
Speaker 3: Given a strong Q1 revenue performance expected, returning revenue from our expanding install base, and healthy backlog, we remain confident in achieving our goals for the year.
Speaker 3: 75% of our Q2 forecasted revenue is either booked or occurring. And on our annual basis for 2023, more than 50% of our forecast is either recognized recurring or already booked with a record pipeline of opportunities with significantly the risk of 2023 booking.
Speaker 3: As a result, we believe we are well positioned to achieve our 2023 revenue guidance of $120 to $130 million. I'd now like to provide a quick update on our operational initiatives. As we have discussed previously, we instituted a number of strategic programs over the last nine months to improve our production efficiency, as well as to minimize future supply chain disruptions. Please turn to slide 5.
Speaker 3: Overall, we continue to make significant progress on a number of initiatives in the first quarter.
Speaker 3: in relationship to manufacturing. We further strengthen our operations team as we added a number of leaders who have particular experience in highly complex manufacturing environment.
Speaker 3: Additionally, we materially reduce production cycle times by further leveraging our continuous improvement capability on the production floor.
Speaker 3: We are also benefiting from programs to standardize manufacturing flow in our production facility.
Speaker 3: We have also successfully reorganized our factory floor to accelerate the production process. These efforts include tighter management of material floor to the production cells and reducing production labor waste associated with material shortages.
Speaker 3: On the supply chain we have accomplished a number of initiatives.
Speaker 3: We have completed the build out of our supply chain leadership as well as improved multiple operational processes with the goal of reducing or eliminating shortages in the future.
Speaker 3: Although we plan additional supply chain improvements, our current state of supply chain provides much better confidence in managing our inventory and avoiding shortures.
Speaker 3: Finally, we remain focused on puttently managing our inventory and working capital. We continue to work with our new and existing vendors to better manage our supply chain, as we are starting to see the initial benefits of our staggered delivery contracts that more closely matches our build schedule.
Speaker 3: Additionally, we have implemented title material and production planning processes to improve inventory control.
Speaker 3: Finally, we are seeing improved supply chain conditions overall that will enable us to manage our production on a more real-time basis.
Speaker 3: I'd like to close out my remarks by providing an update to our 2023 strategic priorities that I highlighted last quarter. A primary focus for this year remains driving to profitability by significantly improving EBITDA.
Speaker 3: This will be done through revenue growth, margin expansion and expense control. As a result, we expect to materially improve cash flow.
Speaker 3: Please turn to slide six. The first three bullets on this page will be regarding to Ibida.
Speaker 3: We remain confident in our goal of more than 50% revenue growth this year. Our strong Q1 results, increased booking and healthy backlog reflect increasing demand for industry leading technology in position as well for the balance of the year.
Speaker 3: We also made significant progress on expanding gross margin in the first quarter and remain on track for sequential improvements through the end of the year.
Speaker 3: This further expansion will be driven by lower bond costs and increasing overall volume as well as higher ASP given the continued mix shift to our Sephora XC products.
Speaker 3: Additionally, we expect to realize the full benefits of our bill of material cost control programs and production efficiency initiatives in the second half of the year.
Speaker 3: Our first quarter results also show solid progress in lowering operating costs as we continue to proactively manage our expenses. The cost controlling initiatives we put into place over the last quarter are yielding results as our adjusted operating expenses declined 5% sequentially.
Speaker 3: compared to the fourth quarter reversing the trend of increase.
Speaker 3: sequential spend in 2022.
Speaker 3: We expect a similar rate of reduction on a quarterly basis as we go through the year.
Speaker 3: We remain committed to reducing adjusted operating expenses by 20% in Q4 of 2023 compared to Q4 of 2022. Finally, improving cash flow. We expect sequential improvement in cash flow as we go through the year, driven by improved EBITDA as I just discussed. Additionally, we will benefit from a reduction in working capital.
Speaker 3: as we remain on plan to reduce year-over-year inventory by 10% to 15% this year. We expect to see the benefits of these inventory efforts starting in the third quarter of this year.
Speaker 3: In closing, we are excited about the future opportunity and believe we are well-positioned to capitalize on the growing demand for high-value 3D printed metal parts.
Speaker 3: Our path to profitability is clear and we remain confident in achieving our 2023 goals. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Bill to discuss our financials and provide our guidance. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Bank. Moving on to our quarterly financial performance, please turn to slide 8. First quarter revenue of $26.8 million was in line with our forecast and was up approximately 120% year over year.
Speaker 4: Compared to Q4, Q1 year sale revenue declined slightly, primarily due to slightly lower volumes versus Q4, which included shipments deferred from the prior quarter.
Speaker 4: and lower ASP resulting from the absence of higher revenue deferred payment transactions in Q1. Recurring in service revenue for the quarter declined $500,000 sequentially to 2.2 million due to lower hourly print fees and a reduction in the number of least systems in the field.
Speaker 4: On a year-over-year basis, year sale revenue was up 140% from $10.2 million to $24.6 million and recurring revenue was up 10% from $2 million to $2.2 million.
Speaker 4: Gross margin for the quarter was 11%, which was the top end of our guidance range, and up from 6% in Q4.
Speaker 4: The sequential increase in gross margin was primarily driven by a reduction in material costs and improved manufacturing efficiency.
Speaker 4: Non-GAP operating expenses for the quarter, which excludes stock base compensation, were 20.8 million.
Speaker 4: This compares to $18.6 million in the prior quarter, which included $3.4 million of non-recurring expense reductions.
Speaker 4: On a comparable basis after adding back these reductions, non-gap operating expenses declined approximately 5% sequentially from 22 million to 21 million.
Speaker 4: Specifically on this basis R&D expenses declined $600,000 compared to Q4. G&A declined $400,000 and sales and marketing was in line with the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: Gap net loss for the quarter was $36.2 million, including a non-cash loss of approximately $12.2 million related to changes in the fair value of our warrants and in-out liabilities.
Speaker 4: On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes this loss and stock-based compensation expense, net loss was $17.8 million and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter, excluding the same items, was a loss of $16 million.
Speaker 4: Finally, as Benny mentioned, bookings for the corridor were up 30% to 20 million.
Speaker 4: And our backlog now stands at 24 million. The declining backlog is primarily related to an adjustment we made to remove an order which has not been cancelled but where the customer has not demonstrated adequate progress in securing financing to complete the purchase.
Speaker 4: We therefore believe it's prudent to remove it from backlog at this time. I'd like to provide more detail on our gross margin outlook for 2023. Please turn to slide 9.
Speaker 4: As I mentioned earlier, our gross margin in Q1 increased to 11% and was at the high end of our guidance range.
Speaker 4: In Q1, gross margin expansion was primarily driven by lower material costs and improvement in our manufacturing efficiency.
Speaker 4: We remain confident in our ability to improve our gross margin to approximately 30% by Q4 of this year.
Speaker 4: This will be driven by the following factors.
Speaker 4: And first, bill of material costs are expected to decline as we receive more materials under new long-term lower-cost supply contracts.
Speaker 4: These contracts are either currently in effect with deliveries occurring, signed and at the product validation stage or in the process of being negotiated.
Speaker 4: As the year progresses, we expect to work off existing inventory and receive a higher proportion of our materials under these new contracts, therefore lowering our costs.
Speaker 4: In addition, we are making a concerted effort to reduce material inefficiency and scrap costs.
Speaker 4: Second, we will benefit from increased volumes in the investments we've made in leadership and training which will drive labour and production efficiency. Volume growth will also improve fixed cost absorption as we spread our fixed costs over a greater number of units. We therefore expect labour overhead and other factory costs to decline as a percentage of revenue. Finally, we expect continued improvement in ASPs for the balance of the year.
Speaker 4: due to recently implemented price increases and the completion of shipments with early bird reservation discounts from last year.
Speaker 4: Please turn to the balance sheet on slide 10. We exited the quarter with a very strong balance sheet with $64 million in cash and limited debt. Cash usage for the quarter was $16 million, down more than 50% sequentially and significantly better than our forecast. The major components of cash usage were as follows.
Speaker 4: Q1 EBITDA was a loss of 16 million.
Speaker 4: flatten out next quarter and then to decline in the second half of 2023 as we work through our existing inventory and staggered contract deliveries allow for lower stocking levels.
Speaker 4: The increase in other working capital primarily reflects increases in accounts receivable due to the timing of shipments in the quarter.
Speaker 4: and a reduction in contract liabilities due to the timing of deposit payments.
Speaker 4: CapEx was $1 million down from $3 million in Q4.
Speaker 4: We also raised approximately $15 million in cash from financing activities comprised of $11 million of equity sales under our ATM facility and $4 million of borrowing under our bank facilities. We expect total cash usage in Q2 to be in a range of $13 to $17 million depending on the timing of payments for booking deposits, shipments and receivables collections.
Speaker 4: This range is inclusive of proceeds from financing under our ATM program and our bank facility.
Speaker 4: We expect cash usage to continue to decline each quarter through the end of 2023.
Speaker 4: Finally, we remain confident that we have the liquidity to fund our business plan through to profitability. I'd now like to provide our outlook for 2023. Please turn to slide 11.
Speaker 4: We expect second quarter 2023 revenue to be in a range of $25 to $29 million, which is supported by existing backlog, and gross margin to be in the range of 12 to 16%, excluding non-occurring items.
Speaker 4: We also expect bookings to be in the range of $23 to $29 million.
Speaker 4: Our full year 2023 guidance is unchanged. We expect revenue growth of greater than 50% and revenue to be in a range of 120 to 130 million. We expect gross margin for the year to be in a range of 19 to 21% with Q4 gross margin of approximately 30%. Finally, we expect bookings for the year to be in a range of 100 to 130 million. In conclusion, we are focused on executing on our clear path to profitability through improvements.
Speaker 2: operating efficiency, margins and cash flow. With that I'd now like to turn the call over for questions. Operator? Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-answer session. If you would like to ask a question please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question.
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Speaker 2: One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from Brian Drab with William Blair. Please proceed with your question. Hi. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker 5: will come back potentially if the customer is able to get financing or is that off the table?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, the order has not been cancelled. It's just that, you know, it's been out there for a while and the customer hasn't demonstrated enough progress in getting financing so we thought that we should remove it in the interest of conservatism. But obviously, if the customer gets financing, it could certainly come back. The order is approximately 80% of the decline in back-
Speaker 3: Is that a fair conclusion? Yeah, we, as you saw, bookings are still strong and improving. And there is a very solid pipeline for Q2 and for Q3. So we have a very clear coverage to how we're going to meet the booking numbers for Q3.
Speaker 3: this quarter from the rest of the year. So we guided booking targets for this quarter and we wouldn't do that if we didn't have a very detailed plan on how we are going to accomplish that.
Speaker 5: And sorry, just to be really clear, that is that that approximate 15 million then out of the I know it's out of backlog, but that's out of the forecast.
Speaker 3: for the forecast and guidance for 2023? Exactly. If it will come back, we'll let you know when it comes back. But because we talked about it, if it will come back in terms of likelihood to ship, we'll let you know. But the way we think about this is we have for every booking that we have, we have a
Speaker 3: forecasting guidance for 2023? Exactly, exactly. If it will come back, it will come back and we'll let you know when it comes back, but because we talked about it, if it will come back, you know, in terms of likelihood to ship, we'll let you know. But the way we think about this is, we have, you know, for every booking that we have, we want to have a date.
Speaker 3: we are not a date, but at least a quarter where we are going to ship it, right? Ideally, better than that. And for this booking, since we don't have the time at which we can ship it, it's not useful for us to report on it as a booking.
Speaker 3: So if the customer is delinquent, we will not report that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on this one I should add one that a small deposit had been paid. The customer was trying to arrange financing but you know, we as I said, we didn't see adequate progress. We didn't have a shipping date. And so we elected to remove it from our reporting but you know, it's still in place.
Speaker 4: it's uncertain whether they're going to get the financing, it's uncertain when.
Speaker 5: It's a new customer? Yes. Would be a new customer? Yes. No, it doesn't look right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, I think I might just pass it along since I asked like four follow-up questions.
Speaker 5: I think I might just pass it along since I asked four follow-up questions. Thank you very much. I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Brian . Thank you. Our next question comes from Ashley Ellis with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question. Hi, thank you for taking my question. Bill, just to clarify the order you took out of backlog you were just discussing, is that in addition to the two customers last quarter that were...
Speaker 6: How are customer conversations going? Is this a trend that you are concerned of? Or any certain segment? Because I think you said contract manufacturers last quarter. Yeah, we have no concerns with all the other customers in the backlog.
Speaker 4: The deposits are... The financing is in place for purchases, so we have no other situations like this one.
Speaker 6: Okay, great. And then I had a quick follow-up. With operating expenses, as you're cutting OpEx, what are the areas that you think you'll continue to prioritize and where is there opportunity to improve? Specifically, I'm wondering how you're thinking about go-to-market investments. Thanks.
Speaker 4: We're continuing to prioritize our R&D and engineering efforts and our sales and marketing. And we're just being a little bit more careful around expenditure across the board. And we expect modest headcount reduction through attrition.
Speaker 4: So we continue to make all the investments that we have planned in engineering, R&D, sales and marketing.
Speaker 4: It's just an asset to be more efficient and spend our money more productively.
Speaker 4: It's just an effort to be more efficient and spend our money more productively. Right. Thanks. If you'll within ten minutes of me taking a short break, I want to thank you. Thanks. Big.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Ashley. Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Ritudi with Needham & Company. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 5: Hi, good afternoon. This is actually Chris Gringa on for Jim. Could you provide a bit more color on the...
Speaker 4: potential decline on the recurring payment revenue. I'm sorry, could you restate the question as you catch this bit sign?
Speaker 5: Sorry, could you provide color on the sequential decline in the recurring payment revenue?
Speaker 4: Sure, yes, so there were two factors there. We had a small decline in the number of systems in the field due to a lease buyout and returns.
Speaker 4: And then another component of that revenue line item are the hourly fees that are paid when a customer uses above their allotment, their initial allotment of print hours. So we saw that come down and that –
Speaker 4: It was more than likely or may have been associated with the system that was purchased by the renter of that system. And then going forward we've got a number of lease systems that are scheduled to go out this quarter.
Speaker 3: give you a little more color on this and maybe Bill will ensure that my answer is 100% correct.
Speaker 3: So this has to do with three systems. One of them was a system that was on this and the customer decided to buy that. So that basically removed revenue from recurring to one time. Another system was a system that the customer decided to upgrade this system to another system that is a bigger system.
Speaker 3: and basically there was a return and then they purchased full price the bigger system. And then the third one is the customer that we hope to do one of the first two and the customer decided at the end not to keep the system.
Speaker 4: So these are the three systems in the history. Got it very helpful. Thanks Yeah, I mentioned that we've got you know more shipments of lease systems going out this quarter So you know that that trend will turn around This was a one-time blip.
Speaker 7: With respect to the printing workshops that you have been holding recently and that are more planned, it is still early in that effort, but has it met your expectations in terms of how that effort is translating into production?
Speaker 7: just more recently. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yes, so as you know, we never sold into China.
Speaker 3: So, we didn't have any kind of inflection from that. We have a few opportunities that we are working on in the rest of Asia Pacific. But I would say that from all our three regions, this is the region that is developing the slowest.
Speaker 3: So we have much more traction and even recurring or repeat orders in Europe already. Asia is developing slower for us.
Speaker 3: We also have much less resources in Asia compared to Europe . Very small efforts passed.
Speaker 1: if you know the printing workshops.
Speaker 3: in Asia or in general. So we kind of have a pretty good footprint in contract manufacturers in the United States and our main focus is expanding those customers in terms of contracting a kind of building out their fleet.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Choi Jensen with Lake Street Capital
Speaker 8: Please proceed with your question. Hey gentlemen, congrats on the great quarter here. Thanks, Troy.
Speaker 8: Thank you. Hey, so I got a question. So these machines that are coming off of lease, what do you guys do with them? Repurpose them and release them or?
Speaker 3: So it depends on the customers. Most generally those machines are leased again to another customer. We use those leases basically as almost a kind of business development, a try before you buy type of arrangement. So we have a few machines like that that went from one customer to another.
Speaker 3: That's the most general. Very rarely we would sell them at the discounted price. More often they would just be released. In some cases, they come out of the leased system count because they're purchased by the lessee. Right, I get that. They're still on site, but yeah. The ones that are returned most generally are released.
Speaker 8: Was there a couple other questions here? Was there any launch pricing systems in Q1?
Speaker 4: There was no launch customer contract but there were some early bird reservation shipments. There was no launch customer contract, there was no launch customer contract, there were
Speaker 4: There was no launch customer contract but there were some early bird reservation shipments so those were at a discount.
Speaker 8: Are all the long pricing machines gone through the income statement now?
Speaker 8: Are all the wallet pricing machines gone through the income statement now?
Speaker 3: The launch customers, they're all gone. The early bird, I think there's one more early bird. Gotcha. Okay. Alright, two more questions if that's okay. Can you just give us an update on Europe ? Europe ? Yeah. So, we have a few OEMs in Europe .
Speaker 3: The launch customers, they're all gone. The early bird, I think there is one more early bird. Gotcha. Okay. All right, two more questions if that's okay. Can you just give us an update on Europe ? So we have a few OEMs in Europe that purchased the mission.
Speaker 3: One of them already followed up with a repeat order. We have one contract manufacturer.
Speaker 3: One of them already followed up with a repeat order. We have one contract manufacturer that already has a mission.
Speaker 3: and is getting a second mission. We also have a pipeline for a number of both OEMs and contract manufacturers. And I would say it's generally going well. It's a new market and it's a long sell cycle, so it takes time. But we have a very good team on the ground in Europe .
Speaker 3: and it's moving forward. So I'm very optimistic that this will move. It's difficult to forecast how quickly it will move, but I'm very pleased that it's moving forward all the time.
Speaker 8: Good. All right. Hey, last question. This may be a little long winded, but the coverage ratio, right? The percentage of the quarter that's done entering the quarter, you said it's 75% for Q2 here, but just your thoughts on the second half, Penny? It seems like, you know, backlogs going to go down meaningfully as a percentage of the revenue goal and stuff are much higher in the second half.
Speaker 3: I mean to me it's got to be significantly more book and ship business. So I'm just kind of curious, this is just all pipeline opportunity obviously if it's not in backlog? So I would say roughly like this, right? We have a booking guidance that we gave to Q2. If we meet this booking guidance, we will be roughly at the same place in terms of...
Speaker 3: backlog getting into Q3. If we hit our booking guidance for Q3, we'll be roughly in the same place going into Q4.
Speaker 3: Q3. If we hit our booking guidance for Q3, we'll be roughly in the same place going into Q4.
Speaker 3: So kind of the nice thing about providing this backlog information and this booking information is that you can kind of have a bracket on how well we can execute the next quarter given how we did this quarter. We basically provided you most of the information. Troy, it also depends on how much business we book and ship in the quarter.
Speaker 4: So that's a fact of it. It goes into the equation as well.
Speaker 3: Bill, do you guys have any inventory to ship that quickly though? We do not have a significant amount of shipment inventory.
Speaker 3: This is not, but we are building these machines now. So maybe I should put it in a different way. We have inventory of parts to build the machines in the quarter.
Speaker 3: that we need to get to these numbers. Yeah, what confidence we can hit the shipment.
Speaker 8: You guys have definitely expressed a lot of confidence and revenues here. It's good to hear. Congrats guys.
Speaker 3: Just to say that the reason why we provide this information is the core of the risk.
Speaker 3: lies in the bookings and the fact that we already have the bookings and the backlog for 75% of the revenue and
Speaker 3: given them in the past few quarters, we didn't say that, but I'll say that now, our average revenue that was from bookings that were booked and were from systems that were booked and shipped the same quarter was about 20%.
Speaker 3: the range was between all the way up to 25%. So there is some risk in being able to hit this number, but you can bracket this list given that our average was 20% and we have accomplished 25% in the last few courses. Yeah, just to elaborate on that a little bit, Troy, the ratemic employment, and the Hearthstone
Speaker 4: The total revenue, the total percentage of revenue that we book and ship in the quarter averages around 35% and that is plus or minus sort of 5 to 8%. And I'm referring to the, looking back over the last year or so.
Speaker 4: And of that 35%, about 10% is the support services and recurring payment.
Speaker 4: About 10 percent is the support services and recurring payment.
Speaker 4: What goes into printer revenue is about 25% of total revenue that generally is booked and shipped in a quarter.
Speaker 4: And that includes some, you know, consumables and things like that that we sell in addition to.
Speaker 2: Understood. Congrats again gentlemen and Benny, I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you. As a reminder, press star 1 to ask a question at this time.
Speaker 3: 2023 is a year in which we are determined to get to the point of profitability. And as you can see, we are making very steady progress towards that. This is driven by improving the top line of revenue as well as improving gross margin and...
Speaker 3: with using OpEx and we are making very good
Speaker 3: steps to this and we are very confident that we'll get to the edge of profitability by the end of the year. Thank you very much and thanks for being on our Arning company.
Speaker 2: This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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