Q1 2023 Kohls Corp Earnings Call
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Speaker 1: With me this morning are Tom Kingsbury, our CEO , and Jill Timm, our Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Tom. Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 1: Me this morning are Tom Kingsbury, our CEO , and Jill Timm, our Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call over to Tom. Thank you, Mark. And thank you all for joining us this morning.
Speaker 1: As we shared on our last earnings call in March,
Speaker 2: We have a significant opportunity to improve Cole's business over the long term.
Speaker 2: More specifically, we share the priorities and actions we had underway to drive sales in earnings performance.
Speaker 2: I am pleased to report that the first quarter was the first step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Our overall first quarter results were in line with our expectations, and we made progress against each of our key priorities for 2023, despite continuing to operate in a challenging macroeconomic backdrop.
Speaker 2: We are refining our strategy, continuing to enhance our merchandising processes, and elevate our focus on the customer. While it will take time for the full impact of our efforts to be realized, we are also
Speaker 2: driving against these priorities with a clear focus and strong determination.
Speaker 2: improvement as we move through 2023 and we set ourselves up to accomplish this with our first quarter performance.
Speaker 2: As it relates to our outlook for the balance of the year.
Speaker 2: It is unchanged from my prior view.
Speaker 2: As I said, our first quarter results were in line with our expectation and, as Jill will discuss in more detail, our view on the second quarter is consistent with our plans entering the year.
Speaker 2: Our work in 2023 will position us to achieve our longer term goals.
Speaker 2: And while we have more work to do, I remain confident in our ability to change the trajectory of our business as we move forward.
Speaker 2: And while we have more work to do, I remain confident in our ability to change the trajectory of our business as we move forward. Turning to the highlights of the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Net sales decreased 3.3% and comparable sales were down 4.3%.
Speaker 2: February was the strongest performance.
Speaker 2: March was below our expectations, but April was in line.
Speaker 2: Our storage business, which is a key focus of ours, achieved productivity gains in the quarter.
Speaker 2: Delivering positive low single digits comparable sales growth.
Speaker 2: An increase in store traffic and higher units per transaction more than offset a lower average ticket driven by our clearance actions.
Speaker 2: Sephora Coles continue to outperform our expectations.
Speaker 2: driving a total beauty sales increase of 150% year over year.
Speaker 2: We achieved mid-teens comparable beauty sales growth in the 200 forest shops opened in 2021.
Speaker 2: And the sales trends in the 400 shops open in 2022 continue to exceed our plan.
Speaker 2: Interactive business was healthier in the period, outperforming the company average with a positive growth in apparel and continued success in outdoor.
Speaker 2: Conversely, we continue to see softness in the home category. In area, we are highly focused on in one that remains of substantial long-term opportunity.
Speaker 2: Beyond the top line, we're able to drive margin expansion and manage inventory down 6% in the quarter.
Speaker 2: I would now like to provide an update on the four overarching priorities we are focused on in 2023. They are enhancing the customer experience, increasing the number of customers that are
Speaker 2: Accelerating and simplifying our value strategies.
Speaker 2: Managing inventory and expenses with discipline and strengthening the balance sheet.
Speaker 2: We made progress against each of these priorities in the first quarter and I am pleased with the initial traction we are seeing.
Speaker 2: We made progress against each of these priorities in the first quarter, and I am pleased with the initial traction we are seeing. Let me share some details.
Speaker 2: Starting first with how we are enhancing the customer experience in stores and online through our product and merchandising initiatives.
Speaker 2: Our long-term strategic partnership with support is delivering a prestige beauty experience at Coals. Our long-term partnership with support is delivering a prestige beauty experience at Coals.
Speaker 2: It is a great example of how we are enhancing the customer experience.
Speaker 2: Sephora at Kohl's meets the needs of our customers with a great assortment of brands and products they are looking for.
Speaker 2: The partnership is delivering on what we set out to achieve over the long term. That is capitalizing a significant growth opportunity in the beauty industry by leveraging each company's strengths to grow our collective customer bases.
Speaker 2: As I highlighted a moment ago,
Speaker 2: Our total beauty sales were up 150% in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: and we continue to gain market share.
Speaker 2: We are bringing in new customers and they are shopping at more than twice the frequency of our average customer.
Speaker 2: Our investments to support this partnership are yielding the outcomes we intended.
Speaker 2: We're in the process of further expanding the Sephora Coles footprint.
Speaker 2: reaching more than 900 of our stores by the end of 2023.
Speaker 2: This is quite an impressive accomplishment and is a testament to how well the Sephora and Coles teams work together.
Speaker 2: In 2023, we will open 250 2,500 square foot Sephora shops, of which 200 will open in the second quarter, with the remaining 50 in early Q3.
Speaker 2: This concentrated opening schedule will lead to elevated investments in Q2 as Joel will discuss. In addition, we have developed a 750-square-foot Sephora shop. We opened five of these smaller shops a few months ago, and they have driven solid beauty sales.
Speaker 2: exceeding our expectations. We'll open another 45 later this fall, reaching 50 by the end of 2023, and we'll be rolled out to the remainder of the chain by 2025.
Speaker 2: It is worth noting that from an expense in capital perspective, the smallest of four shops will add some incremental capital spend and expense in Q3 relative to last year, both of which are embedded in our guidance.
Speaker 2: in more than 900 of our stores.
Speaker 2: on the efforts and progress we have underway in our product and merchandising.
Speaker 2: As a relates to our product assortment, we are focused on optimizing our existing offering with greater balance while also capitalizing on opportunities in under penetrated categories.
Speaker 2: One of our biggest opportunities is the home category.
Speaker 2: While we were disappointed with our Q1 performance,
Speaker 2: Ong did enter the year with leaner inventories and therefore had less benefit from our clearance activity.
Speaker 2: However, we are highly focused on improving results by rebuilding our core business as well as growing underrepresented categories such as gifting, decor, pet, impulse, and outdoor. You will see these initiatives come to life in how we merchandise our stores.
Speaker 2: in the coming months. With GIFTIN and Home Decor showcase, near the front of the store, to inspire customers as they enter.
Speaker 2: Some of this work is already underway. Our repositioning of gifting to the front of the store during the holiday season proved highly successful and this positive trend continued across Valentine's Day, Easter, more recently, Mother's Day.
Speaker 2: When you visit our stores now, you will see Americana themed gifting products focused around the Memorial Day and the Fourth of July holidays. We are also expanding our home decor, outdoor and pet offerings within home. Areas of opportunity include a greater selection of wall art, outdoor and pet offerings, outdoor
Speaker 2: Seasonal, patio furniture, camping and outdoor gear and tabletop.
Speaker 2: In TET, we are allocating more space in stores following a successful test last fall.
Speaker 2: To make room for additional productive selling space, we are consolidating to one checkout area in most of our stores with a greater selection of impulse items.
Speaker 2: We'll be adding self-checkout kiosks in 250 stores to support this transition.
Speaker 2: We are confident in our ability to maintain our high standards of customer service with this more efficient model.
Speaker 2: Turning to our apparel offerings.
Speaker 2: We are optimizing our storemates to reflect customers' interests.
Speaker 2: suiting and dress shirts and mens.
Speaker 2: During Q1, this focus areas outperformed the business. In women's, we are building a much stronger presentation in dresses and polished casual, as I said. Dresses significantly outperformed during the quarter. In concert, we are building depth in core and everyday essentials to provide trip assurance.
Speaker 2: We are optimistic that our actions will lead to a better future performance.
Speaker 2: In men, we are seeing good results across several areas, including active, outdoor, shooting, and dress shirts, and big and tall.
Speaker 2: We remain committed to the active business while investing in our outdoor presence with an enhanced in-store experience in elevated merchandise. Welcome back, Emeritus Weir.
Speaker 2: We also believe that the suiting and dress shirt business will continue to outperform driven by a broader assortment.
Speaker 2: Children's outperformed the company average in Q1 with positive growth in active and dressed clothing. Similar to women's and men's, we are diversifying our offerings with greater selection in areas such as girls' dresses and boys' dress clothing.
Speaker 2: Let me now highlight some additional items starting with our stores.
Speaker 2: As we discussed, our stores are incredibly important to our business and increasing their productivity is vital to our future success.
Speaker 2: I am pleased with our improved performance in the past two quarters and remain confident that we can build on our early momentum.
Speaker 2: In addition to the actions I have already discussed, we are simplifying our signage and graphics, making adjustments to how we are merchandising assortments and empowering our stores to capitalize on opportunities to improve the customer experience and drive sales in their local markets.
Speaker 2: In doing so, we are creating a more modern experience for our customers.
Speaker 2: We're also committed to capitalizing on new store opportunities over the long term.
Speaker 2: As part of our 2023 real estate plans, we opened two new stores in Q1, one of which was a relocation. During the balance of the year, we'll open five additional new stores for a total of seven in 2023.
Speaker 2: Turning to our digital business.
Speaker 2: We experienced softer demand in Q1.
Speaker 2: Our customers continue to shift back towards stores and we reduced online only promotions as we work to simplify our value strategies.
Speaker 2: Digital penetration was 26% in the quarter, while down to last year, this is still up meaningfully versus pre-pandemic levels.
Speaker 2: Looking ahead, we have various digital initiatives underway, including enhancing the site experience, curating our product assortment, and continuing to simplify our value strategies, as well as further refining our COALS Marketplace and COALS Media Network.
Speaker 3: Now let me discuss the progress we are making against our second priority, which is accelerating and simplifying our value strategies.
Speaker 4: On our last call, we highlighted an opportunity to improve coal's competitiveness by simplifying our pricing and promotional strategies with the goal of driving greater customer engagement and conversion. A last touch point is we do share failure english. focused on technology The question after the call about cheats...
Speaker 5: During the first quarter, we began to replace general promotion and online only offers with targeted offers and clearance events to clear slower selling goods on a more regular basis.
Speaker 6: We will continue this approach moving forward at the appropriate pace. Additionally, we will test key value items within our private apparel and home brands, which are aligned with our simplified pricing efforts. We will continue this approach moving forward at the appropriate pace.
Speaker 7: Customers will begin to see a small percentage of our assortment move to this approach during the back-to-school season, which we will integrate into our marketing messaging. We are approaching this initiative with great measure and flexibility and will determine next steps following our assessment this fall.
Speaker 8: If successful, we will scale and grow it in subsequent years.
Speaker 9: Lastly, we will continue to leverage our industry leading loyalty program as a mechanism to deliver even more value to our customers.
Speaker 10: We will begin the rollout of our coal brand card with Kappa 1 to select customers in the second quarter.
Speaker 11: Over time, we expect to benefit from our dual offering of our existing strong private label credit card in the co-brand card that offers more flexibility to reach younger customers.
Speaker 12: I will now transition to the progress we are making against our third priority, which is managing inventory and expenses with discipline.
Speaker 13: During Q1, we enhanced our inventory control processes and managed inventory down 6% last year. This is in line with our goal of planning inventory down mid-single digits percent. We are now in line with our goal of planning inventory down mid-single digits.
Speaker 14: We also commenced our regular inventory clearance actions during the quarter, which will clear slower selling items sooner to create greater liquidity to chase receipts and drive turnover.
Speaker 15: Looking ahead, I continue to remain optimistic that through our enhanced inventory control processes.
Speaker 16: we will be able to increase our sales productivity and overall inventory turnover. We feel good about our Q2 inventory levels and are well positioned from a liquidity perspective with plenty of room to chase. This is a positive given the persistent macroeconomic headwinds. Now let me turn to our focus on expense management. How to treat dairy farmers
Speaker 17: In Q1, our SG&A expense declined 4% to last year and leverages a percent of revenue.
Speaker 18: We are proactively capitalizing on opportunities to drive efficiency across all areas of the company.
Speaker 19: However, as Jill will discuss in more detail, our S-GNA spending pattern in 2023 will be unique given the timing and concentration of the support and store related investments I just discussed. To be clear though, our S-GNA expense outlook for the year has not changed.
Speaker 20: And lastly, our fourth priority is strengthening our balance sheet. Our focus remains on returning our balance sheet to its historical strength with a long-term objective of managing to a 2.5 times leverage level.
Speaker 21: In Q1, we retired $164 million of bond maturities. This, along with funding working capital in the quarter, led to utilizing the revolver as planned. Jill will discuss our other capital allocation priorities, including our commitment to the dividend, which represents a healthy yield at the current share price. Thank you for the question.
Speaker 22: So to summarize.
Speaker 23: The first quarter was a first step in our journey to drive sales and earnings performance over the long term.
Speaker 24: I am pleased, but not surprised, that the entire COLEs team was extremely focused in executing against our priorities. It was a great team effort.
Speaker 25: As we look to the balance of the year, we continue to approach our outlook with prudence. However, it remains our objective to show incremental improvement against our priorities and actions as we move through the year.
Speaker 26: We set ourselves up to accomplish this with our first quarter performance.
Speaker 27: In closing, I want to thank our loyal associates for their contributions to our business and for serving our customers every day. I will now turn over the call to Jill to discuss our first quarter results and our 2023 outlook. Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill? Jill?
Speaker 28: In closing, I want to thank our loyal associates for their contributions to our business and for serving our customers every day. I will now turn over the call to Jill to discuss our first quarter results in our 2023 outlook. Jill? Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone.
Speaker 29: I will review our first quarter results and then discuss our guidance for 2023. As Tom shared, we made initial progress against our strategic priorities and delivered results in line with our expectations during the first quarter.
Speaker 30: While we continue to operate in a challenging macroeconomic backdrop, we remain confident in our strategies and have affirmed our full-year financial outlook. Beginning to the first quarter.
Speaker 31: Net sales were down 3.3%.
Speaker 32: Store sales were up low single digit percent, driven by strong Sephora at Kohl's growth, as well as our clearance actions. Store sales were down 19.6% to last year.
Speaker 29: From a product perspective, national brands outperformed private brands in the quarter. Our top performing national brands in the quarter include Nike, Hager, Izod, Columbia, Hurley, and Eddie Bauer. While our top performing private brands were Apartment 9, Flex, and simply Vera Vera Wang.
Speaker 32: Accessories with our best performing line of business up 31% to last year.
Speaker 32: Strong sales growth in beauty was partially offset by lower sales of jewelry, which again was largely impacted by the in-store displacement associated with removing the fine jewelry counter to make room for Sephora shops.
Speaker 29: As it relates to some of our other categories, children's and men's apparel outperform the company average while home, footwear, and women's underperformed.
Speaker 29: Other revenue, which is primarily our credit business, declined 11% in the first quarter.
Speaker 29: Performance of our credit business continues to be pressured by normalizing loss rates, which were expected.
Speaker 29: While other revenue is expected to remain down year on year, it will progressively improve during the balance of the year.
Speaker 29: While the revenue is expected to remain down year on year, it will progressively improve during the balance of the year. Now let me turn to the rest of the income statement.
Speaker 29: Q1 gross margin was 39%, up 67 basis points from last year.
Speaker 32: The improvement was driven by a decline in digital-related cost of shipping.
Speaker 32: lower freight expense, and simplifying our value strategies.
Speaker 30: partially offset by product cost inflation and higher shrink.
Speaker 31: SG&A expenses were down 4.2% to $1.2 billion.
Speaker 32: The decline was driven by fewer Sephora openings and related store refreshes as compared to last year.
Speaker 32: as well as disciplined expense management across corporate and marketing which offset continued wage headwinds. Depreciation expense of $188 million was $12 million lower than last year due to reduced technology capital spend.
Interest expense of $84 million was $16 million higher than last year due to Sephora-related lease amendments and increased revolver borrowing.
Net income for the quarter was $14 million and earnings per diluted share was 13 cents as compared to 11 cents last year.
Net income for the quarter was $14 million and earnings per diluted share was 13 cents as compared to 11 cents last year. Turning to the balance sheet in Cash Flow.
We ended the quarter with $286 million of cash in cash equivalents.
An inventory at quarter end was down 6% compared to last year. As Tom shared, we feel good about our inventory level entering Q2 and remain focused on driving turnover.
Operating cash flow with a use of cash of $202 million in the first quarter.
Capital expenditures for the quarter were $94 million.
We are still planning for approximately $600 million to $650 million of capital expenditures in 2023.
Now, let me provide an update on our capital structure and capital allocation priorities.
Strengthening our balance sheet is one of our top priorities in 2023. It is important that we rebuild our CAS position and it remains our longer term goal to manage this business at a leverage target of 2 1-2 times.
In the first quarter, as planned, we utilized our revolver to fund both working capital and the $164 million bond retirement.
We continue to plan on working our Revolver Balance down throughout the year with no borrowings expected at year end, inclusive of retiring $111 million of bonds in December of 2023.
As it relates to returning capital to shareholders, we will continue to prioritize our current dividend which represents a healthy yield for our shareholders.
During the first quarter, we paid $55 million, or 50 cents per share, in dividends to shareholders. In addition, as previously disclosed on May 10th, the Board declared a quarterly cash dividend of 50 cents per share payable to shareholders on June 21st. Now let me provide details on our outlook for 2023.
As you've heard today, we are pleased with the progress we are making against our priorities.
Our first quarter results were in line with our expectations despite continuing to operate in a challenging environment. Given this, we are affirming our full year financial guidance.
For the full year, we currently expect net sales to decrease 2% to 4% versus 2022 and includes the 53rd week which is worth approximately 1% of growth.
operating margin to be approximately 4%, and EPS to be in the range of $2.10 to $2.70, excluding any non-recurring charges. Lastly, I want to highlight a couple of items about how we are thinking about the second quarter. We continue to expect our full year gross margin in the 36 to 36.5% range.
this year. We are planning for SG&A expense to be up 3-4% year-over-year in the second quarter. Q2 includes a concentrated level of investments related to the timing of Sephora openings this year and the store-related investments Tom discussed.
This view is consistent with our plans on during the year. With that, Tom and I are happy to take your questions at this time. At this time, if you'd like to ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Our first question will come from the line of Bob Durble with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad.
Hi, good morning. Nice quarter. Thank you. Two questions for you, Tom, actually, if I could. The first one is just, you know, when you look at the strategy that you have laid out, can you just speak to the confidence that you have in terms of, you know, what you're seeing, what you've seen so far? And then the second one is, you know,
That would be helpful. Thank you.
I'll answer question number one and I'll answer question number two.
We're very confident in terms of the strategies we have in place. As I mentioned, the Sephora business has been very, very good.
the active business had a little bit of a rebound in the first quarter overall. The men's and kids business has been strong relative to the other apparel areas as well.
But there's a lot of opportunity to continue to grow the businesses. The home business, as I've mentioned multiple times, is a huge opportunity for us. We really should start seeing traction in the second quarter.
There's a lot of categories that we weren't in. And we're starting to get deliveries now and seeing some positive business due to that. So home is just multiple opportunities for that business.
The women's business, it was somewhat disappointing in Q1, but we did get to see traction in dresses and polished casual. And we think if we continue to deliver more product like that, we should do better in that area overall.
So yeah, we feel really good. We're really pleased with our performance in the stores. It's been a while since we've had that kind of performance in the stores. And I feel very good about the team in general in terms of their ability to really pivot.
And, you know,
entertain new strategies and they're all working very hard to get it done. And the second question with margin sustainability, what I would say is we feel very confident in our margin outlook. In fact, the 36 to 36 and a half percent guide for the year is well within the long term frame that we introduced to you a couple years ago with our investor day. You know, the actions that we have afoot around simplifying our pricing.
Obviously, we'll have a little bit of a change between quarters pressure and Q2 a little bit. But we do think that's the right thing to do for both the business in terms of sales from a customer perspective, but also from a margin perspective. And then as we move through the year, we'll start to see a lot of the commodity inflation abating, especially with our back to school receipts. So that cost number is coming down. And we'll continue to see benefit.
from freight, which I think will continue to increase as the year progresses. We will continue to see shrink headwinds, but we feel like we can definitely put some actions against that to at least moderate it, but we will expect that to continue. With all that being said, we feel great about our margin outlook.
And even with SG&A, we're going to deleverage slightly on a down two to down four. So it just shows that a lot of our efforts around costs have been paying back, particularly around driving down marketing, finding ways within the store to be more efficient with self-checkout to help us offset some of the wage increases. So although we have a pop in Q2, really due to the
sales drivers that Tom had outlined, so we can fund that into the store. We do feel good with the framework that we have outlined for this year and feel confident in 4% and then building on that as we move forward in the out years.
Great. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Gabby Carbone with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So, Tom, maybe this bigger picture, how do you view the overall consumer, and do you think consumer spending behavior has changed since the beginning of the year? Thanks.
Well, I think the middle income customer is being squeezed overall.
based on obviously macroeconomic issues, et cetera. But with that said, we feel good if we can continue to deliver value that we can capture the business. And we can navigate around really any issues if we consistently deliver value that we can capture.
you know, strong values to the customers. So it really hasn't changed, to be honest with you. I think it's been, it's similar throughout. And you know, going forward, you know, we're gonna have to continue to, you know, give the customer, you know, more value. And that's what we're doing.
Great and then I just have a quick follow-up just as one of you can dig into the performance of athletic and what drove the positive results there was it both apparel and footwear and then how are your own brands performing within athletic.
So I think from an active perspective we did see positive comps in our apparel so we were excited to see that in the apparel. But Wear as you know has definitely been something that has been lagging the business but we have seen some relative improvement there particularly across our top three brand vendors but we do still see good you know Flex was called as one of our top performing brands but doing some detail on some of our vehicle'sTodd, as I know it is cheaper than joint educate
Thank you so much and best of luck.
Your next question comes from the line of Mark Altswager with Baird. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Jill, any more color you can provide on quarter to date conference or your expectations for Q2 sales relative to the down two to four annual guide? And then also hoping you can provide a bit more color on e-commerce. What is driving the channel shift?
Where do you think digital penetration settles here in the medium term? Thanks, and then I had a follow up.
Let me answer the first part. The current trend, May, is slightly less than we anticipated. However, we feel we can make it up throughout the quarter.
You know looking back the last year one of our toughest months was June So we feel that we can you know, we can we can make up the ground that we This that we lost slightly in May Overall, but you know, I think as we go through the quarters, you know
A lot of our strategies will continue to evolve. And as I mentioned earlier, we feel good about the business and that we have a lot of great things in place. And then in terms of digital, I think first, we're really excited about the sources, as Tom indicated, running a positive comp. And a lot of the initiatives we've outlined are super effective in both having an engaging ideas platform and even creating a cloud built and emerging much better for the business car. So that's something helpful that we Finally had an opportunity to talk about. And then we gotpressing sites outsideRick
focused on driving to the store and I think even with Tom's comments on the quarter we have 250 more Sephora stores opening this year in the June and July timeframe. So we definitely feel like we have some momentum through the stores. From a digital perspective, we definitely expect that our digital business will improve throughout the year.
As we were talking about removing some of the offers to simplify our equation and getting rid of the de-layering, some of those were online only offers. When we were looking at what was productive for us, what really presented value to the customer, those didn't make the cut. I think they maybe had a little bit more outsized impact from that perspective.
As we move forward though, we have a lot of things that we're working on and one is just through pricing clarity. We know that's incredibly important on digital, having that pricing transparency. So with the pricing actions we have, that's really focused on driving that transparency, which should help in the digital space. We're also doing a lot to enhance the site experience, so customer experience that we spoke to in stores.
We're doing a lot to replicate that online as well. So you're going to have more inspiration, better search relevance, more recommendations. So a lot of things there so that we can drive what the consumer is looking for. And then we're also curating that product assortment much better for the customer so we can deliver those needs. And then also we're refining our strategies around Marketplace and our media network, which just really helps in that digital space as well. So we feel confident with the strategies that we have, so we're just going to have to see progress.
Thank you. And then a quick follow up. You touched on on some of this, but was hoping you could unpack some of the value simplification initiatives. Sounds like you're being very measured here, but I guess what's working and maybe where are you gaining some confidence that you could lean in maybe sooner than initially thought and
and how is that flowing through to the gross margin? Thank you.
Well, obviously that's one of our key strategies in terms of simplifying our value message.
What we're doing right now is we're just eliminating some of the layered events that we had last year. Jill mentioned about the layered events in digital overall.
We still are very, very confident in the model that Kohl's has in terms of delivering value to the customer. We just think that we need to get rid of some of the layered events, as I mentioned before. We also are trying to get rid of...
of general public offerings where we give a discount to everybody, we think it needs to be more targeted in terms of driving the business through those kind of events relative to general promotions. And we're going to be bringing in, as we mentioned in the last call, a number of people who are
some key value items. It's gonna start during the back to school season where we price the goods not at everyday low value. We're not gonna convert to the off-price model, but it's gonna be brought in,
At a price point that it's going to accelerate the selling and we're going to look at that. We're doing it very very carefully we're going to measure it and You know if it is good Then we'll move forward if not we'll Look at doing something else but overall
I don't know if we're going to accelerate anything because we're really testing and you know, we obviously don't want to make any mistakes In terms of the promotional calendar. We're just looking for things that we can eliminate without any big impact to the business Very helpful. Thanks again
Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Bosch with JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Great thanks and congrats on the early progress.
Hey, Matt.
So, Tom, on the inventory progress, could you speak to key learnings to date and elaborate on initiatives that you've put in place to sustainably manage the receipts and drive newness across the assortment?
So Tom, on the inventory progress, could you speak to key learnings to date and elaborate on initiatives that you've put in place to sustainably manage the receipts and drive newness across the assortment? Okay.
Music to my ears.
You know having a well having a disciplined approach to the inventory is obviously key for many many reasons. And we were happy with the progress we have made from you know end of January to now in terms of being down six percent.
We
Right now, we could be better than that.
In the end of the second quarter, things are moving around and we have opened a buy to chase but we feel that mid single digits decreases is what we're going to do and what we're going to execute to. And the positives are again...
Being able to have money open to buy at any point in time to chase things is really key. And the process is really is just, you know, we're really putting a lot of emphasis on the processes that we're trying to.
execute overall. And it's a lot of eyeballs on it, and trying to be proactive to catch things. If we see things are getting a little higher than we want them to be. But overall, it's been a good team effort in terms of managing the inventory overall.
And then maybe on the improved productivity that you cited in the stores, could you just help rank the traffic driving initiative that you are the most excited about? And just how best to think about the store fleet over time from here?
I think the first traffic driving initiative for us is clearly Sephora. And you saw the stats around Sephora comping in those first 200 stores in the mid-teens and then continue to see just the outsized impact there. And we have now a solution to go to our smaller stores, which those first test stores are exceeding our expectations. So I think we're definitely seeing traffic. We're seeing new customers. So that would definitely be ranked.
number one. I think my number two is that we have the registers moving out and we're adding that selling space to the front of the store and really going to have more of a home decor presence. You know, and Thomas said this a lot, it's a big white space for us so it's a big opportunity. It's also more of an impulse to find that item that you're walking in and just really get inspired for so we can have an ad.
and being able to shop easily and add that into their basket as well. So I think those changes around spaces that we hadn't been participating in really are what gets me excited in bringing those footsteps back into the store. So I think those continue to be great opportunities for us, especially with the expansion into Q2 of the additional 250 stores.
and then in Q3 adding about 45 new small stores for Sephora. And then throughout Q2 we're pulling out the registers and all of our fleet and we'll be able to bring that home decor to the front. So I think there's a lot of opportunities in front of us, which is why I think Tom and I show that confidence in the progressive improvement in Top Line.
Yeah, and I want to comment on that a little bit as well. You know, for a long, long time when you walked into a Kohl's store, you would see men's on the right or left hand side and women's on the right or left hand side. And it was the same for a long time. So removing one of the register bays.
gives an opportunity to have more gifting in the front, as Jill said. So when they walk into the store, they're seeing something new, something different, something very giftable, and a different look. We want to excite the customers every time they come into a Kohl's store.
So we're very excited about that. As Jill said, I mean, we started it really in the fourth quarter in terms of moving our gift votes to the front, and they sold very well. Valentine's Day sold well. Easter sold well. I mean, everything we put up in the front has worked out very nicely. But –
Yeah, we've also you know we changed graphics in the stores. We removed a lot of the older graphics. We put up more Kohl's branding throughout the store. Much more modern look. It's cleaner. It's brighter. So again, it's all part of our improving the in-store experience for the customer. So, your next question.
how the store looks and the value messaging. Where are you in that and how you're thinking about back to school and how you want the execution to look? And then lastly, one more time, just unpacking the digital expenses and the gross margin. How do you frame them going forward and what levers should we see for adjustments there? Thank you.
I'll do the question number one, and she'll continue to do question number two.
We've made progress in terms of transforming the stores. Actually we've made good progress and we're gonna continue to complete it in the second quarter. And as far as back to school, we'll probably have a presentation of back to school items as you walk into the store.
every gift-giving period that we can. But I'm pleased with the way the team's gotten behind it and with the execution so far.
Yeah, and in terms of digital, I think we've always kind of given you the rule of thumb of when we have the penetration change and the impact it has to margins. So you saw it definitely benefited our margin in Q1 with having less of that cost of shipping, Dana. We're going to expect that digital will improve, but we had some outside penetration post-pandemic. We think that that's going to come down as we see people migrate more to the stores.
which is a nice benefit for us from a margin perspective. In terms of leverage overall from the company, I still think our leverage point is around that one and a half comp. We do expect slight deleverage this year down two to down four, and really have a lot of efforts focused on how we can be much more efficient.
but still serve the customer appropriately. And that's really the lens that we're looking at as we make all these changes in the store, is we want to make sure that we're still investing back into that customer experience, also with an associate to be there to help them as well. So I think that's kind of where I would say, overall, the framework still works, as it always had. You know, typically, you'd see cost of shipping be a headwind because of the little...
moving up, but now as that's kind of right sizing, we're getting that benefit back through cost of shipping. Thank you. Your next question comes to the line of Chuck Rahn with Gordon Haskett. Please go ahead. Okay, thanks. Good morning. I have one question that's near term, one a little bit more longer term. On the near term, Jill, how should we think about
the second quarter comp that's embedded in some of the components that you provided on margin and SG&A. Do you expect it to be within the down through to four full year range, or should we think about holding the four year stacks from the first quarter to get to that number? Just trying to triangulate where earnings is gonna fall out here in 2Q. Yeah, I think what we had said is we expected, you know, sales would make some progressive improvement throughout the year.
You know, we saw February was our strongest month, as Tom had indicated, and then April really came in where our expectations were. May slightly below our expectations, but we think with all of the strategies that we just outlined, there's a lot in front of us, which we feel that we'll be able to make up in terms of where we are for Q2. So I would say it's still gonna be, you know, towards the...
ladder part of that comp just because we're saying, hey, we're going to build on that, especially with the benefit of Sephora happening in Q2 and then moving into the back half of the year with a lot more of those strategies. And even in terms of product, you know, we have a lot of Tom's influence, we have a new chief merchant, and a lot of that influence is going to land in the back half of the year, and so that's why we feel confident in the build from that perspective. So I would say that I'd expect, you know, Q2 to be in the back half of the year.
more towards the bottom end of the guide as we build our way up for the rest of the year from that perspective and let our strategies take hold. But that's also why we have confidence in Q2 to build and really get back to our expectations. Okay, great. That's very helpful. And then I guess more for Tom. When you're doing this clearance strategy throughout the quarter, how is the customer reacting? Clearly, they're not used to seeing that in the stores, but...
You know, timely markdowns, there's nothing better than that, okay? You know, taking the markdowns, you know, when the customers really want the product. You know, we were waiting. I mean, we were waiting to take markdowns. Like, we would take fall markdowns in February and March, and we would take spring markdowns in August and September . It was just too late.
And taking them on a timely basis, as I said, is really critical to running the business and hopefully improving our inventory terms. Okay. And then one more, if I could, just to follow on Matt's question earlier about the inventory. Obviously, we could see the balance sheet and the changes in the dollars, but we want to make sure we are overwriting this important and finding these inputs and they will really make the process easier for us and where the
But from a systems perspective and an overall approach from the merchants, what needs to be done or do you have the tools in place? It's just a matter of changing the philosophy and approach. We have the processes in place. And we've had the processes in place, you know, for a while now. It's just more about...
Again, having eyeballs on the inventory levels at all times, making sure that we're delivering what we said we're going to deliver. But it's not systemic, it's just more about understanding the importance of having open to buy to chase. That's one of the things that I learned in off price.
You know if you have open to spend you know there's so many benefits with that Great thank you Your next question comes from the line of Paul Legeway with Citigroup, please go ahead Hey, thanks guys I'm sorry just hey
dollars, we obviously know, but units. Can you talk about where you ended with units at the end of the first quarter and what the plan is as you move throughout the year, how that might look different, dollars versus units. And then second, Tom, I guess you've been there longer now. I'm curious if you've had any change in the way that you think about the number of stores in the fleet.
particularly in the first half of the year, which we do think will benefit from in the latter part of this year. And even with that being said, just in the context that we do have the incremental Sephora stores that we opened, which you understand would come with a lot more units, given the small unit piece of it.
Units were down more, but I would suspect in the back half of the year as we start seeing costs abate that those would be much more in line as we move forward. We really don't have any changes in terms of how we're approaching the stores overall. Our stores are profitable and we don't anticipate closing a lot of stores.
Very few if any, just because they make money. So we're going to, right now we have like seven stores opening in 23, one of which is a reload. And right now we're planning on staying at that typical level....
But we're looking to see whether or not we can do more, but right now we're just staying as is.
Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Oliver can with TD Cowan please go ahead. Historically, as we look back at Kohl's balancing merchandise margins relative to traffic has been difficult.
Also, the company's been somewhat weather sensitive. And then third, driving women's and younger customer apparel. That's been an opportunity. Tom, we'd love your take on those features and how you're thinking about that and if there are valid risk factors in terms of what you see going forward.
And then there's lots of really awesome ingredients for changes you're making. Could you rank order them in some way, just in terms of the most impact?
perhaps in the second half relative to longer term and or lower hanging fruit versus longer term. And then lastly Jill, you've had an iconic Kohl's cash program and personalization have been efforts in the past. I guess what's different now?
and how you'll manifest that relative to all the AI we're seeing and the data that you do have. Thanks.
Well, let me start, I mean, that's a lot of question. Let me first start with, you know, what are the priorities? Obviously, you know, continuing our relationship with Sephora. I mean, continuing to build that business overall. Having a strong beauty business is really key to growing.
Some of the business you talked about, I mean, having a good beauty business should result in having a very strong women's business overall. We are working hard on our assortments in women's. I just reviewed the back to school assortments for young women's.
and it looks really terrific. It's a good mixture of key items, some great fashion items as well, so feel very good about that as we go through the back to school period overall.
You know our other priorities are really to continue to grow the stores business. You know it's 70% of our business and We really feel that it'll help our overall growth by getting that Stabilizing growing that piece of it as well as the digital business. You know we talked about that earlier
And we're committed to it. We're definitely committed to it. The performance in the first quarter wasn't what we wanted, but we see progress as we go throughout the year. But the other priority is the home business. And we're going to grow that through capturing businesses that we're under-penetrated in.
wall art and pet and home decor overall. And the gifting piece, as we talked about before, we feel very good about that, very good about impulse business overall. And trying to get our mix, you know, improved in terms of creating a longer collaborative version of it. I'm just backyard...
casual versus dress, we've already seen a lot of progress in terms of moving the dress business because we serve a broad audience. And we need to have product for everywhere. But again, we're still committed to the active business, but we're looking for a rebalance. So I'll let,
I'll let Jill talk about the gross margin. Yes, I think overall from your question around margin and traffic and Coles Cash, I think we're still going to deliver value to our customers. And that, I think, is really what is going to be a key driver for why they come to Coles. But that combined with everything that Tom outlined is really that great product. And really finding places in the white space we haven't participated in, such as the one
starts with price. And I think that's why simplified pricing is really important. We don't want it to be confusing having to understand the stackability of our offers. So we want them to understand in a simplified way the value that Kohl's can present to them. And then Kohl's cash plays a key role because it bounces them back in, it causes another trip, it brings back that traffic.
And that's been part of our ecosystem for a really long time. It's part of what is a great loyalty leading program in the industry, and we're going to continue to leverage that as we move forward as well. So I think between the white space that we haven't filled and really the focus on products that Tom and our new merchant has brought into Coles together with all the initiatives that we outlined today, I feel great that we'll hit the margins that we outlined as well as continue to drive.
new and different. That's a different kind of skill set perhaps, but it sounds like you're laser focused on inventory as well as having a lot of direct reports. Yeah, as far as the merchandise organization, as always, we...
We work on how many buyers we want in the organization. So we may, going forward, that might be part of the plan just in terms of targeting more areas with more people. But as far as leadership goes, we feel very good about where we stand today. Again, as I mentioned a couple times, we're very, very happy to have you here. And we're very, very happy to have you here. And we're very, very happy to have you here.
Everyone is really, really receptive to new things. You know, our job is to, you know, teach, train, and develop, and that's what we're focused on. But right now I feel very good about the merchant organization that we have in place, and they can get it done.
is really, really receptive to new things. Our job is to teach, train, and develop, and that's what we're focused on. But right now, I feel very good about the merchant organization that we have in place, and they can get it done. Thank you. Thank you for your regards.
Thanks, Oliver. Well, thank you, everyone, for listening on the call today. Have a good day. That will conclude today's meeting. You may now disconnect. Listening on the call today. Have a good day.