Q1 2023 Canadian Tire Corporation Limited Earnings Call

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Speaker 4: And we welcome you to contact Investor Relations if we don't get through all the questions today. I'll now turn the call over to Greg. Thank you, Karen. Good morning and welcome, everyone. I'll start by saying that despite the challenging macro environment, we remain confident that our diligent focus on our better connected strategy positions us well for the short and long term. Similar to last quarter, this morning I'll discuss what we're seeing in terms of consumer demand, but before I do, I'll give you some color on our Q1 results. As is typical in the first quarter, our financial services segment drove our Q1 results.

Speaker 4: offsetting a retail segment earnings decline. It was driven by a number of factors, including the flyer at our A.J. Billis distribution center.

Speaker 4: The weather in Q1 also did us no favors, especially in Ontario, where a warm winter was followed by a slow start to spring.

Speaker 4: This, along with a more challenging consumer demand environment, contributes to the decline in comparable sales at CTR.

Speaker 4: Markson Sportcheck had a successful quarter, both achieving growth and comparable sales compared to Q1 of last year. Marks also secured its 11th consecutive quarter of growth, and we see opportunities to invest in sustaining that growth going forward. Across our business, we continue to manage PopEx well, even as we invest to ensure we have the right building blocks in place for the future. As we navigate a constantly evolving economic landscape, our trend rewards and credit card data enable us to keep our finger on the pulse of customer trends.

Speaker 4: Our credit card data reveals the consumer spending has slowed, with spend per member remaining flat relative to Q1 of last year marking the first slowdown since 2020.

Speaker 4: The observations we made among our trying to re-wards members also reflect this downward trend in spending.

Speaker 4: with spending at a retail banners declining across all income groups.

Speaker 4: Furthermore, we noticed a shift in consumer behavior as customers moved away from best level products in certain categories, such as tires and household consumables towards our better and good level products.

Speaker 4: The current high inflation rates have led customers to prioritize essential products over higher ticket discretionary ones, which as you would expect has a more market impact on sales at Canadian Tower Retail than our other banners. But in a quarter like this one, it is difficult to separate that from the impact of weather.

Speaker 4: Despite these challenges, we remain focused on delivering value to our customers.

Speaker 4: We continue to reorient our tactics while staying anchored in our better connected strategy to provide more paths to value. The first path is through our Triangle Rewards program. We often talk about the importance of converting shoppers into members.

Speaker 4: Does that enable us to provide more value through Canadian Tiremite and offers for the products our members want to need? Our ability to communicate promotions directly to our members through email, our app, and relevant one-on-one offers continues to translate into sales and fuels the redemption flywheel on associated spend. When it comes to deepening engagement to drive sales, we now have another tool on our toolbox, trying to select.

Speaker 4: which we launched nationally in March. Following a successful beta test of trying to select in 2022, the team launched the program nationally, and as of April 30th, 22,000 members have signed up and collectively earned nearly $2 million in incremental Canadian tire money through their select memberships.

Speaker 4: And through our recently announced partnership with SunCore, we've expanded the reach of our Triangle Roads program, providing even more value by giving members more opportunities to earn CTM in a high frequency category.

Speaker 4: by expanding the distribution of Canadian tire money for more than 200 gas stations to a network of more than 1800.

Speaker 4: We're driving more value per Canadians at the pumps while exploiting more value for our shareholders from an asset we all

Speaker 4: The partnership is a win-win for our customers and their shareholders. The second critical path for delivering value to customers is our unique multi-category product assortment. In the quarter, 36% of our total retail sales came from our own brands. A portfolio we are continuing to grow as part of our better connected strategy. At CTR, we are strengthening our assortment, including in our motor master brand with new product launches and expansions. We share the latest innovation in tech companies and furnace companies becoming customers.

Speaker 4: We also recently introduced our Stratus, like brand in a category that is a key driver for our playing division.

Speaker 4: And our Party City and Petco Shop and Shops continue to drive sales for CTR with sales up 38% and 18% respectively in the quarter.

Speaker 4: At SportCheck, we are building momentum with our Ford with design brand.

Speaker 4: We've expanded the styles and colors that introduced an elevated technical apparel line within the brand, as well as growing the work leisure range for men. National brands too remain an important part of our assortment, especially at Mark's. Among our top selling national brands, Columbia, Silver and Timberland Pro saw the highest growth among new to CTC customers. Our expanded national brand partnership with Columbia and Levi's and select stores continue to deliver exceptional growth.

Speaker 4: And we remain focused on finding new ways to deliver more value, including through the recent launch of a Levi's next gem, Shop and Shop, and Langley British Columbia. We know it's not just about having the right products. It's also about showcasing them to our customers effectively and providing a seamless, shopping experience.

Speaker 4: which leads me to the third piece of larger value equation, our Omni Channel experience.

Speaker 4: We're already seeing the impact of our new concept ConnectStore investments at CTR.

Speaker 4: In our store projects today, we are seeing an almost 700 basis point delta and top line performance relative to a comparable peer group of stores and feedback related to customer experience has improved significantly.

Speaker 4: We're also seeing increased basket sizes and traffic, higher growth of our own brands, and disproportionate growth among our key categories including PEP, automotive and party city, among others.

Speaker 4: Our one digital platform is now live across CTR, Party City and Atmosphere, with sport check and marks to follow in Q2.

Speaker 4: We're also providing more convenience by adding new features to our mobile app.

Speaker 4: including the ability to book out a service appointments and enhance personalization and recommendation features.

Speaker 4: Our app continues to perform extremely well. In addition to maintaining a solid 4.7 out of 5 in the App Store, we've grown monthly active users by 15 percent year over year to 1.8 million.

Speaker 4: Finally, on last quarter's call, I mentioned we just launched an express same-day delivery pilot with DoorDash at 10 CTR stores in Ottawa.

Speaker 4: The initial results had been very strong. Average click to delivery time is just over two hours. The program has an NPS score of 80, and we're recovering 100% of the costs.

Speaker 4: given the success of the pilot we plan to expand to the Ottawa Valley in Q2 and have our site set on taking this program national throughout the back half of the year.

Speaker 4: While we continue to adjust tactically to provide more value, we do so within the building blocks of our better connected strategy and guided by our brand purpose.

Speaker 4: In addition to making life better for our customers, we drove positive social change in Canada during Q1.

Speaker 4: For example, we launched our Women's Sport Initiative, which involved a multi-million dollar investment in the commitment to allocating 50 percent of our sponsorship dollars to women's professional sports.

Speaker 4: The response to this initiative was overwhelmingly positive.

Speaker 4: demonstrating the significant need and demand for this type of funding.

Speaker 4: Joe Stark had an outstanding quarter helping more than 250,000 kids across the country a new record for quarterly disbursements.

Speaker 4: They also mandated safe sport training for all jumpstart community grant recipients, resulting in over 5,000 coaches and youth activity leaders, completing their respect and sport training in Q1. Along with proactively supporting our communities through programs like Jumpstart, we're there to help with disaster strikes.

Speaker 4: Our thoughts are with those affected by the devastating wildfires in Alberta. In addition to supporting our local stores and the impacted regions, we've made a donation to the Red Cross Alberta Fires Appeal.

Speaker 4: Many Canadian Tire marks and Sport Check stores across our store network will also be accepting donations to the Red Cross at their registers. We continue to demonstrate where a brand Canadians can trust to do the right thing. Reinforcing the strong, emotional connection our customers and communities have with us.

Speaker 4: Our team members too feel this emotional connection to our brand has demonstrated not only by their outcomes.

Speaker 4: 2. Feel this emotional connection to our brand as demonstrated not only by their outcomes, but also their actions throughout the quarter.

Speaker 4: When the fire broke out at an AJ Billus distribution center on March 15th.

Speaker 4: Our teams flawlessly manage to the high-stress situation, from protecting the health and safety of our team members through a seamless evacuation to managing their remediation efforts.

Speaker 4: In a matter of days, the team set up a temporary out-of-parts distribution center.

Speaker 4: and diverted high volume skews to neighboring DCs to help flow product to our CTR stores.

Speaker 4: The fire is certainly disrupted our operations and performance is quarter which Gregory will speak to during his prepared remarks.

Speaker 4: But through the challenge, we once again witness our team's commitment, grit and fortitude.

Speaker 4: and I want to thank them for their incredible efforts. I'm so grateful and proud that regardless of what we're up against, all our team members remain focused on making life in Canada better for all our stakeholders. And with that, I'll pass it over to Gregory.

Speaker 5: Thanks, Greg. Good morning, everyone. As you heard from Greg, Q1 included some one-off offense for CDC. So I'll begin my prepared remarks today by providing some additional contacts on each of these before diving into our operational results.

Speaker 5: Q1 has historically been a financial services quarter, given it is the smallest retail quarter from an earnings perspective. This quarter was no different, with strength in our financial services business offsetting an expected decline in retail.

Speaker 5: You remember that our last call we outlined a few items we expected to materialize in Q1.

Speaker 5: First, we expect in CTR dealershipments to be lower than in 2022, as the dealers drew down on high levels of spring, summer, inventory. Second, we anticipated elevated supply chain costs in support of higher levels of inventory, as well as increased investment in our better connected strategy. What we could not have expected, however, was the fire at our AJ Bill's distribution center. Our EPS of 13 cents reflects the $68 million of direct costs incurred in the last two weeks of the quarter, relating to loss inventory, building damage and clean up the DC as a result of the fire.

Speaker 5: Normalizing for the direct costs related to the fire, the majority of which we expect to recover through insurance in later quarters, EPS was $1. In addition to the direct fire related costs incurred, there were some other impacts.

Speaker 5: The fire forced us to close one of the three zones of the DC, slowing shipments out of the other zones, and redirecting capacity to other DCs. The beneficiaries and shipment delays effectively cost us around $20 million of IBT.

Speaker 5: force us to close one of the three zones of the DC, slowing shipments out of the other zones and redirecting capacity to other DCs. The inefficiencies and shipment delays effectively cost us around $20 million of IBT or approximately 26 cents of EPS.

Speaker 5: The speed of which we're able to get the teams working together to address this unexpected event further proves the resilience of our model.

Speaker 5: While our real estate and operations teams still have much from remediation work to do, not the least of which is getting a new roof on the building.

Speaker 5: We are ramping capacity back up every week, and our supply chain team has been working closely with the dealers to prioritize getting delayed shipments out.

Speaker 5: Another I am a materialized in Q1 was our exit from our dedicated ocean charter contract. We have talked before about how instrumental our supply team is and how it is continually on the lookout for opportunities to improve the business and maximize returns.

Speaker 5: It was with this lens that we took the decision to exit this quarter, the contract. Exit the contract allows us to lock in more favorable ocean freight costs going forward. It will ultimately be favorable contributed to gross margin.

Speaker 5: This did, however, result in a one-time cost of $13.5 million in the quarter, the equivalent around $0.17 of EPS.

Speaker 5: Now, before I move on to the performance of the business segments, I want to highlight a change that impacts the quarterly phasing of the reported results.

Speaker 5: This stems from a change in accounting estimate being made prospectively from this quarter, relating to the company's margin sharing agreement with the dealers. Or as we refer to it, the MSA.

Speaker 5: The most important thing to take away from this change, it has no impact on an annual basis.

Speaker 5: only on the quarter by quarter phasing with a favorable impact in the first three quarters, which reverses in the fourth.

Speaker 5: In Q1, this change had a favorable impact on EPS of 66 cents, flowing from a $52 million in dollar impact on revenue and margin.

Speaker 5: As you know, we consider our dealer model to be a significant competitive manager.

Speaker 5: and the company's contract with the dealers governs how billions of dollars of margins and expenses are shared between the two groups.

Speaker 5: Previously, one element of this, the MSA, was primarily recorded in Q4.

Speaker 5: We are now recognizing the revenue and margin associated with this element quarterly.

Speaker 5: The change results and the last variability and the retail gross margin rate going forward and should make forecasting margin somewhat

Speaker 5: Now with standing this, it's important to remember that there will always be business drivers, including sales growth, banner mix, or product mix, product margin that could result in some variability.

Speaker 5: Now that given the context of the complexity of the quarter, I'll move on to the performance of the retail business.

Speaker 5: Retail sales were down 2.8% to 3.3 billion. Patrolling contributed to the decline down 3.9% on slowing volume.

Speaker 5: Retail sales were down 2.8% to $3.3 billion. Patrolling contributed to the decline down 3.9% on slowing volume, slowing falling growth and lower prices.

Speaker 5: Retail comparable sales, which exclude petroleum, were down 2.5% overall.

Speaker 5: All banners were comping off strong growth in Q1 last year, and Marks and Sportcheck had a particularly strong quarter in a more challenging consumer demand environment.

Speaker 5: Although outerwear and hard-good sales were lower in some provinces due to weather, marks and sport check increased promotional intensity and that contributed to stronger sales.

Speaker 5: At Canadian Tire Retail, we saw strength in our non-winter related categories.

Speaker 5: But comparable sales were down 4.8% mainly due to the impact of seasonal weather in the form of a warm January and a cold March.

Speaker 5: which affected both our winter and spring seasonal categories, especially in Ontario.

Speaker 5: Weather-related factors will respond for the vast majority of the sales decline, impacting our plane, fixing.

Speaker 5: seasonal and gardening divisions with cells, items like toboggan, heaters, humidifiers, and snowblowers down in the corner.

Speaker 5: Outside of the winter-related categories, the business performed well led by our two largest divisions, Automotive and Levin.

Speaker 5: On a motor posted its 11th consecutive quarter of growth with auto maintenance and auto parts offsetting some softness in replacement battery sales given the warmer weather.

Speaker 5: In living, our expanded pet offering with new Petco shop and shop boutiques now at 385 Canadian Tire locations drove a 20% increase in pet care sales. Home essentials were also up.

Speaker 5: As I highlighted earlier, Revenue and CTR was down to the lower shipments as dealer worked to normalize spring-summer inventory, which resulted in the revenue decline outpacing the sale of decline this quarter.

Speaker 5: On a rolling 12 month basis, sales and revenue growth has now converged as they normally do over time given our dealer model. At SportCheck, Q1 comparable sales were up close to 4% against the strong winter season last year. Regially, growth came out of Alberta. They could back. But Ontario weather was tough for out-of-wers sales across all brands.

Speaker 5: The business compensated with growth in athletic, casual, and fan wear sales, and leverage promo to ensure they kept inventory fresh. At marks, comparable sales were up almost 5% in Q1, making this feel 11th consecutive quarter of growth.

Speaker 5: Cells of men's and ladies casual wear a wrap. With jeans, men's sweaters and lady knits, ladies knits, being the key drivers.

Speaker 5: We continue to aim for a healthy mix of national and own brand sales at Marks, and are very happy with how we are delivering on this strategy and how it's continuing to attract new customers to Marks.

Speaker 5: Lastly, we were delighted to announce we secured 10 bedfathom beyond locations. Six of these were placed existing markstores in Alberta, BC, and Ontario. And build on the strong growth we've been seeing out of marks.

Speaker 5: These relocations will expand our footprint and allows to showcase a parotter assortment range.

Speaker 5: The remaining four locations in Ontario, we will be opening up new pro hockey life stores, again building on the strong growth we've been seeing in that banner.

Speaker 5: Turning now to Hellehansson, where revenue has almost stopped 23% in Q1, with another quarter of growth across most channels and regions.

Speaker 5: Bortsware cell through spring summer was particularly strong in our wholesale channels.

Speaker 5: E-commerce overall was up 20% and another solid quarter of performance from our US business contributed to this growth.

Speaker 5: Finally, before I move on to the results from a financial services assignment, I'll give you some color on our retail gross margin. Our Q1 reported retail gross margin rate, excluding petroleum, was 35.2%, which includes the benefit from the MSA.

Speaker 5: excluding this benefit, retail growth smarger rate was down to 17-baked do.

Speaker 5: Despite product cost increases compared to last year, CTR was able to maintain its margin rating.

Speaker 5: The higher promotional intensity at Sportcheck end marks in Q1 did present headwinds.

Speaker 5: But we were able to offset much of them thanks to strong contribution from hellaeansin and a generally favorable sales mix among the banners. Looking forward, our product cost comps will become easier and we feel good about our negotiated freight contracts.

Speaker 5: Margin may vary somewhat quarter to quarter, but as we have said before, we remain focused on retaining the gross margin expansion we achieved during the pandemic over the long term, while at the same time striking the right balance between demand creation and being price competitive to drive value for our customers. I'll now move on to help financial services perform in Q1.

Speaker 5: IBT was almost $119 million down slightly from the all-time high Q1 earnings results over the past two years.

Speaker 5: Revenue was up over last year while Gross Margin was down and the business did a good job managing apex

Speaker 5: Despite slowing credit card acquisition and card spend compared to last year, card holder engagement remained strong. Growth Savager Council's receivable was up 10.4%, active accounts were up by 4.4%, and average balances were up by 5.8%.

Speaker 5: Card cells were up 6%, broadly in line with Q4, but down considerably from the 26% growth in card cells we saw last year.

Speaker 5: Receive that in the quarter at 6.9 billion and the ECL allowance was stable at around 897 million.

Speaker 5: With no increase in allowance in the quarter, but a small seasonal decline in ending receivables, the allowance rate finished the quarter at 13%. Slightly above Q4 is 12.6%, but still within our targeted range of 11.5 to 13.5%.

Speaker 5: Risk metrics are trending as we expected with PD2 plus rates back to historic levels at 3.1%. Our write-off rate was 5.3% as it continues to return to more historic levels as the increased investment in new accounts, a key strategic initiative that we outlined at our investor day works this way through the portfolio and mature account performance state withdraw breaks.

Speaker 5: In the context of ongoing economic uncertainty, we continue to watch the macroeconomic indicators and are ready to play our playbook to manage risk as needed.

Speaker 5: Employment, a key indicator remains robust and our portfolio remains healthy and continues to perform well.

Speaker 5: Moving on to operating expense, you may have noticed that we are now reporting S-GNA excluding DNA to help illustrate the trends in both lines more clearly.

Speaker 5: Consolidated Q1 SGNA grew just under 10 percent during by an increase in retail SGNA.

Speaker 5: Depreciation was up 14 percent reflecting our increased level of investments in recent quarters.

Speaker 5: Operational discipline remains a key focus for us and we are continuing to find efficiencies in the business. But as in the case in the past few quarters, SGNA is running at higher levels than previous

Speaker 5: consistent with the second half of 2022. Investments associated with our better connected strategy drove higher IT costs. In addition, our transition to a cloud-based infrastructure means we are dispensing more of our IT spend than we've done in a store. And we remain in the earlier stages of this transition.

Speaker 5: As with the case last quarter, we also had higher sales-related labor costs to Sportcrow at Markson Check and higher volume-related costs, mainly related to supply chain, with our continued need for 3PL capacity.

Speaker 5: Increase in supply chain costs was mainly driven by inventory growth, which started to reverse from where we ended the year. Inventory was up 22% compared to last year versus 30% at the end of Q4.

Speaker 5: Similar to last quarter, unit cost inflation remained an important contributor to the increase in corporate inventory. And to support growth of the direct consumer business, the inventory was up at Helly Hansen.

Speaker 5: We also continue to have higher levels of corporate inventory at CTR, but growth rates have been coming down as we have adjusted our buys for spring-summer categories. We expect to make further progress on reducing inventory levels as we head into the spring-summer season.

Speaker 5: On the dealer side, inventory levels are now when we slightly above last year. Winter category is in it pretty clean, and we will be adjusting our Christmas bias to reflect the fact that dealers end with slightly higher Christmas inventory.

Speaker 5: Finally, the Cronon FX, our new TTA DC, which supports Sport Check and Marks, also drove higher costs as it ramped up and became operational in Q1.

Speaker 5: All I'm prepared remarks today by getting you so insight as to what we are expecting for Q2.

Speaker 5: The operating environment remains uncertain and we will continue to have fire-related headwinds in the second quarter With the fire remediation at our AJ Bill's distribution center still underway, we expect to incur additional costs in Q2

Speaker 5: The operating environment remains uncertain and we will continue to have fire-related headwinds in the second quarter. With the fire remediation at our AJA bill's distribution center still underway, we expect to incur additional costs in Q2. We will be continuing to work with our insurer.

on our claim over the coming months and will update you on expected recoveries in our Q2 call. We also continue to see the impact of delayed shifts in the event until at least the end of June . We expect this will be a headwind Q2 revenue and currently estimate that the impact could be between 150 million and 200 million which we expect to recover within the year.

In terms of sales performance, early results coming out of the month of April were strong.

with CTR comp sales just over 3%, recognizing though we still have almost 2 months left in the quarter. As we move to the second half of the year, we will be cycling easier sales comps in our retail business and benefiting from fewer cost and freight headwinds.

We continue to believe we are better positioned than we've ever been before to offer the agility and manage our business tightly. And as Greg discussed, deliver value to our customers.

We remain convinced that our strategic directions are the right one to deliver strong returns to our shareholders over the long term as we build an even better business.

With that, I'll hand it over to Greg for his closing remarks. Thanks, Gregory. There is no question. We're in a more challenging consumer environment.

Canadians are mindful of how and where they spend as they renew their mortgages and take advantage of their ability to travel, cross-border shop, diamond restaurants, and attend sporting events. But as we move from a tough winter into a more seasonable spring and continue ramping up product flow through our distribution centers.

The spring summer is still true, we are seeing demonstrates the strength of our multi-category assortment.

To meet the ones in these Canadians and the power of the triangles to deliver the value there look for

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Our first question is from Irene Natal with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Just listening to the commentary and thinking through how the rest of the year is going to evolve. So we've got consumer demand in which people are trading down from best to better. We've got inventory that you need to work through. We've got higher cloud-based costs.

So, as you think, and then of course the fire impact, as you think through all these various puts and takes.

When do you think we'll be in a position where we actually start to see year over year comparisons at the earnings line start to trend positively?

I read a lot in that question. As Gregory talked about his prepared remarks, there was a bunch of one-time things that

that went against us this year and the fire being the biggest one that obviously we couldn't have forecasted. And we're just, as Gregory said, we're just not at a point in the investigation right now given the safety.

of the environment to have a true handle on impact. I think we suggested our best forecast right now from our revenue standpoint in terms of how it will hit us. Not only will it continue throughout the remainder of Q2, but we...

we indicated the range, but we expect to get that back. You know, things, so what would need to happen for us not to get it back? We'd have to have a lot of cancellations from our dealers, which would be a result of very peculiar and...

expect to get all of that back. It's just a timing difference with respect to insurance claims. So it's really tough to look at, you know, Q1 from an earning standpoint, given these one time variables and try to put it into a more normalized state.

for the balance of the year. We tried to do our best to unpack what was happening at the top line for you. I think we're seeing, we're feeling really good about how the strategy is standing up in front of the customer with almost an 800 basis point swing to the positive and CTR from a ComStore sales standpoint. And we're ready for any demand environment that comes our way. But it's...

It's tough to get the crystal ball out with some of these one time things impacting us, most notably the fire. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then just thinking through the commentary around April , I guess the first couple of weeks of May, we have seen the weather turn. As you look at the south through the retail.

weather. We've seen the business much more buoyant. As Gregory pointed out, we're up 3% at the end of April and we like the trajectory of our business where the spring weather has arrived. A province is like Alberta and the prairies have really been firing. So it's two early Q1 was such a complex complex.

quarter to unpack with all of the weather impacts and then we do see some consumer softening signals as well. So I think once we get through Q2 we'll be in much better shape to kind of really understand the consumer landscape. So I'd say it's a little bit early to prognosticate where we think Q3 and Q4 is going to land but we really like the trajectory in Q2 at this point and when the weather has hit we like the buoyancy we're seeing.

Thanks, TJ. Thank you. Our next question is from Tammy Chen with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thanks. Good morning. First, I wanted to ask about the consumer behaviour with respect to this trade down. You mentioned reorienting tactics to provide more passive value.

One thing I wanted to ask was, we noticed in one of your more recent flyers, at some point in March, you started a new format highlighting essentials at dollar price points or just relatively lower price points. I don't think we've seen you do that before and I think you followed up afterwards with a subsequent one like this in the following weeks. So, can you just talk a bit about this?

strategy. What prompted you to take this approach? Was it successful? Do you anticipate continuing to do that? Yeah, hi it's TJ. Maybe I'll take that one. As Greg articulated a little bit earlier, there are a lot of moving parts on the consumer front in Q1 with weather impacts.

some of the softening consumer signals. Maybe if I take a step up or a step back here, on the promotional front at CTR, we didn't see a material change in behavior with our discounted mix of sales. It was up a little bit, and our discount rate was up slightly versus a year ago.

but both way below 2019 levels. As you would expect, and you kind of noticed it here, promotional decisions are made at the category level and we know where to invest and where not to. If it's warm and dry in January , you won't inspire a lot of demand by discounting a car battery or a snow shovel and similarly if there's a foot of snow on the ground in March, you're not going to inspire much demand on grass seed. But categories like essentials, cleaning products and things like that, that's where we tend to invest.

That tactic you just saw in the flyers, something we've done over the years, probably in the last couple of years you haven't seen it as much, just given some of the supply challenges we've had. But we're going to continue to kind of lean into our capabilities here. We've got very strong promotional capabilities in terms of understanding elasticity curves. And we do expect the promotional activity to get a little bit more intense.

to drive value as we go forward here. Okay thanks. And now switching gears a bit to the financial services segment, we noticed from the Securitize pool, Glacier, that

It was disclosed in the beginning of, for the month of March, we noticed that the net write-off rate was up 50-bit, which seemed a bit high on a month-over-month basis. I know the actual write-off rate percentage is still, I think, still a bit below your historical rate, anyways. But we'll just curious just the magnitude of this month-over-month.

increased. Is this unusual and does it concern you? Thank you.

Is this unusual and does it concern you? Thank you. Yeah, I know.

the external community looks. It's Greg here by the way, thanks for the question. I know the team looks at that as a data source and I think it is a way to get a bit of an interim look. I tend not to look at those drivers on a monthly basis because they're so fake. To your point, they're a volatile and it is also a segment of our overall portfolio.

To me, I think the right way to look at our write-off rate is what we produced in the overall MD&A, which includes all the receivables, not just Glacier, the ones that are sold to Glacier. You're right to say write-off rates are increased, but the reality is we knew this was coming. The rolling 12 write-off rate right now is at 5.3%. It's up around 120 basis points versus Q1 a year ago. We've said this was all part of our strategy to frankly grow the account base. Back to our investor day, we had probably two years of soft new account growth prior to that.

IaaS and the team have done a great job building out digital capability and the ability just to kind of grow that customer file again. And frankly, we're probably tapping the brakes on IaaS and the team. They probably want to grow faster than we're frankly letting them right now. So this write-off rate performance is right where I would have expected it to be. I'll just say it's eventually going to climb back to its historic level.

We normally have our loss rate in our book between 6 and 6.5 percent and I think it's just a matter of time before our overall rolling 12 write-off rate gets there. That is the right way to look at this. You can use the monthly as somewhat of a barometer, but I'd be a bit careful is how I would answer the question. Okay, thank you.

Thank you. Our next question is from Lou Cannon with Kennecord Junuity. Please go ahead. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Maybe sticking with CTFS for a second here. Gregory, you talked in your prepared remarks about being ready to deploy your playbook when it comes to managing the risk in this scenario.

tools out of that toolbox just yet. Thanks, Luke. It is Gregory here. I think what I would say is a couple of things. One, we've certainly taken our foot off the accelerator in terms of new account growth. I'll get to your playbook question in a second, but just given some of the uncertainty, I know we have taken our foot off the accelerator a little bit and are more careful around new account acquisition.

I would say that's probably taken effect around the edges. I don't think the teams made a wholesale strategy change and said no credit limit increases or let's look at credit limit decreases on a broad scale. But I think just sure I think I could be safe to say there's tightening going on around the edges around scores for new accounts being slightly higher.

balance limits being granted probably a little bit lower, but Luke nothing on scale yet is what I would say, and not necessarily geographically focused. I.E. let's look at one jurisdiction or one province and take a specific action there. Now they have the ability to do that if the team gets uncertain, but I wouldn't say that and act that it's something that's specific yet just a more general tightening is what I would say.

Okay, thanks. And then for my follow-up here, just on the competitive landscape, we've seen some headlines that some of your, we'll call them indirect competitors, have left Canada or at least scaled back their operations materially. I'm curious to know the white space that's been left behind, have you been able to take share from those larger competitors or are you noticing small chains?

It's a very difficult quarter to incent demand for the categories in which we compete.

discounting a car battery at 50% off is probably not going to get anybody off their couch. So really looking at share.

from the context of Q1 in terms of any shifts is difficult. What we can say is we feel really good about our positioning loop. I mean we were really happy as we said in our commentary with being able to pick up the bed bath and beyond leases. We talked about what we're doing with the space.

top line with the incremental square footage. I would call it a nice kind of tuck-in piece of work. We were active on more, but we felt like the price being paid was getting steep, so we feel good about where we landed. We're continuing to be active on a couple of additional

negotiations beyond the 10, so we'll see where we land. But what I would say to your question is, we just continue to be here with our strong retail portfolio while many struggle in this country, which leads to opportunities like Bed Bath and Beyond or share consolidation opportunities, to your point.

If so, when should we see that start dropping in the P&L? Sure, Sal. It's Greg. Let me take that and I'll start with the broader, just the context, I guess, for the agreement. I think I'd start with the strategy that we outlined at investor day.

Ultimately, we said that we continue to focus on finding ways to add appeal and relevance to our existing network of retail banners participating in and trying to reward.

You know, we've talked in previous calls, you and I have talked about being focused on ensuring that our assets are connected first and then think about where the rewards program could go after that. And so we feel like the assets are connected into the program properly.

you know, feeling good about the proposition for the customer. And maybe even more importantly, we've been working so diligently on the customer data infrastructure and the, you know, the marketing communications tech stack that kind of lives behind the curtains to be advantaged on an ongoing basis.

in personalization capabilities. We joke internally that the sophistication of our IT context diagram for our marketing function is you just would never guess it's marketing. So we need to make sure that we can add ongoing value and that's what those back office capabilities are about in terms of sustained personalization capability. So we feel like now's the time.

in a category that's really important. The timing, obviously, is really good, given the economic environment. That'd be the first part of your question, highest order strategic rationale. As it relates to value streams from the Suncor relationship.

There's really, you know, the three streams. There's the expanded coverage, which I just alluded to. Coverage goes from roughly low 50s in terms of having a gas station issuing Canadian entire money within a 5-kilometer radius of a Canadian entire store, 50% penetration to mid-80s.

But again, you know, in the grand scheme of things, the profitability of the petroleum business, you know, isn't material to our overall, you know, pre-tax income delivery at the consolidated level. But there is definitely a nice stream of benefit there relative to the way we've operated in the past. And the third is just the rebranding as we...

move forward with the industry leader. So we really like this deal, Vishal. It's great for the customer. And we, you know, most importantly, it kicks back significant value to our core retail business on an ongoing basis.

Okay, thank you for that and I just want to switch gears here to Helly Hansen. You talked about some good growth in the US. Obviously, in the past you've talked about expanding or contemplating taking your brands, many of them which are very strong and exploring opportunities to sell those more broadly.

Well, yeah, let me start with just how we, glad you called it a really strong quarter, strong revenue, good margin expansion relative to last year. The core sport wholesale business really drove away, and it was a 40% plus growth rate over last year.

and with strong growth in e-commerce, domestically the brand in Canada double digits, which as you've heard us talk about is a big area focus and lots of traction on the DTC channel specifically in the US. As it relates to the own brand portfolio beyond the walls of Canada, so to speak, or the confines of Canada.

It's still very modest sales and income delivery for many activities beyond Helly Hanson. We've got a little bit of activity with Woods. And we're really pleased with some of our work efforts around the Sherwood brand, as an example, which has a small but growing global presence. And I wouldn't...

As we kind of outline the big drivers of value delivery in our investor day, extending on brands internationally isn't one of our key focus areas on a go-forward basis in the short to medium term. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question is from Chris Lee with Dijon Die. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning everyone. Sorry if I missed it earlier. Gregor, just a couple of maybe modeling type questions. You mentioned, I think in the beginning that for Q2, the revenue impact from some of the shipments because of the BC fires about 150 to 200 million.

I was running, you can share with us what would that be in terms of earnings for tax impact. I think the impact is around $20 million in Q1. Do you have a number to share for Q2?

It's Greg right here Chris, it gives me a chance to make an overall comment on this. We talked a lot about, you know, do we feel the need to kind of add this disclosure in as we went through the quarter? Because to be honest, if we saw a hole in the roof, and you know it's difficult really to know when this remediation is going to be complete. I think,

So what we tried to do is estimate our best view in terms of where the world is right now. And as Greg said earlier, we think we're going to pick all this back up again. But we need to, you know, we need to get through the remediation efforts. We need to get through the next few months. And the team is going full out on this to Greg's comments earlier. Really, please, with the progress that they may be able to achieve, it has been phenomenal. So what we wanted to do is highlight a range of where we thought kind of revenue would be impacted. I mean, simplistically,

You know, to me, if you want to use something, you could just use kind of an average margin rate for the retail segment if you'd like. You know, it's probably a bit. I would use that direction as to what you're going to, at this point. I think the bigger question we're going to have is we're going to need to update that as we get into the second quarter. Once we actually find out what the remediation efforts were.

And I think that's a bigger update than any else, Chris. So for all of us to be frank, this is going to be an estimate at this time that might have some variability still in it. One way or the other, maybe the team gets this done faster, but we wanted to give you the best estimate we have as we're sitting here right now, and that's what we've tried to do. Okay, that's how it goes. And my other question is just on the extreme expenses that they're retellable.

and in particular the investments that you're making on the IT based, the cloud-based investment. I know you don't disclose what the number is, but this is it to argue that this year you're investing $100 million of IT based investments that are going through your P&L statement this year. The way to think about next year is that those $100 million were not going to reoccur, you actually get a...

bit of a step down because these are obviously more one-time in nature or are they actually recurring that the run rate is going to be this level going forward? So let's try to take, first of all I'm not, I mean I'm going to say nice try first, I'm not going to give you it, but I will give you a little more color on what I think you're poking at.

So let's say for a second that our IT spend doesn't change in a full 12 month period, just as an example. What I'm trying to highlight in my comments is right now we're not at the mature mix of kind of cloud-based versus non-cloud-based. I think we're still a few maybe two, three quarters until we're there and frankly...

That's another thing I think we'll have to keep updating on as we move forward. Let's assume for simplicity that it will be the case. I think once we're at that mature level of investment of what percentage cloud-based is, a year after that, assuming spend was flat, then I'd say you should expect the same type of expense in a given quarter. So there's two things right now. We are seeing increases in spend for IT. That is true. Which I think will start to level off from the increase perspective. I think we will live longer and more comfortably against theseowed AMIs that we're seeing in the markets, and then restore funds or sweozers.

But more of that spend will be attracted to the PNL, or we'll reach the PNL because it would be cloud-based as we're growing the percentage from where we are right now towards more cloud-based spend. Does that make sense, Chris? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Thanks very much. Thank you.

more of that spend will be attracted to the P&L or will reach the P&L because it would be cloud-based as we're growing the percentage from where we are right now towards more cloud-based spend. Does that make sense, Chris? Yes, I think so. Okay, thanks very much. Thank you. Our next question is from George Humay with Scotiabank.

Please go ahead Yeah, I go morning guys. I just want to double click on that April 3% comp can you maybe talk about that all strength related to weather or with other categories in there and generally speaking? Can you talk a little bit about promo levels by maybe by category and kind of where you see those that promotion? Those promotion levels heading to kind of as you go through the year Yeah, George. It's TJ. I'm just a little bit more color as we said we're through April . We're up 3% and

and particularly where we see the weather has broken in areas like Alberta and in the prairies. We've had particular strength and particular strength in our spring, summer businesses. Good weather obviously helps us on numerous fronts on the business itself but also traffic into our stores. We're seeing good buoyancy as I described earlier in April . We do expect promotional intensity likely to heat up particularly in the discretion.

manage our margins but inspire consumer demand with all of the tools that we have in our arsenal, whether it be from Triangle or our discounting program through our flyer and all of our analytical models there. So that's a little bit of a view going forward. Once we get through Q2...

will probably have a better ability to tease out weather versus consumer sentiment at this point. Thanks. This is for my follow-up on inventories. Can you talk quickly about the level of comfort, quality of inventory in general, excluding the unit cost inflation in there? Can you maybe talk about...

kind of the cadence of normalization that you would expect to go through maybe over the next couple of quarters. Yeah, George is TJ again maybe maybe I'll I'll take this one again. There's a lot of components when it comes to looking at our inventory picture at CTR. So let me just give you a snapshot of where we are today and then I can walk you through what we

the cadence of normalization that you would expect to go through maybe over the next couple of quarters. Yeah, George is TJ again maybe maybe I'll take this one again. There's a lot of components

going forward. On the corporate side, we continue to make strides in managing our inventory. As our rate of growth is down versus the rate of growth last quarter. So you would have seen in the MDNA where we're at. So we've come down in terms of the growth on the corporate side. And while it's up, you mentioned inflation, we do have growth. 40% of that on the corporate side of things can be attributed to inflation. So we're heading in the right direction in terms of the rate of growth. And we're going to be continuing to manage our inventory very surgically. And on the dealer side, as Greg ReGrey mentioned, they're only up slightly year over year in inventory. And that's entirely attributable to inflation.

So they're in much cleaner shape. So when we look ahead here, as Gregory mentioned, you've got a couple components as you look into the back half of the year. Dealers did finish with a little bit higher inventory level and Christmas decor. The winter seasonal stuff, we kind of, although it's a little bit elevated, nothing for major concern, but it's very important to understand that as you look to the back half of the year, two-thirds of our inventory comes from non-seasonal product. Two-thirds of our shipments, I should say, to dealers comes from non-seasonal products, and it's a bit too early to tell.

what that looks like. So we'll, as we get through Q2, we'll be in better shape to kind of understand or be able to prognosticate what the POS to revenue ratio will look like, but we're feeling good about our inventory right now and we're making progress to balance that kind of bringing our inventory down, but also being there where we see the consumer demand. Thanks for your answers.

So we'll, as we get through Q2, we'll be better shaped to kind of understand, or be able to prognosticate what the POS to revenue kind of ratio will look like, but we're feeling good about our inventory right now, and we're making progress to balance that kind of bringing our inventory down, but also being there where we see the consumer demand. Thanks, your answers. Thank you.

Our next question is from Mark Petrie with CIBC. Please go ahead. Yeah good morning thanks. Just to follow up on that topic actually TJ on the dealer inventories. So you're still higher on sort of spring summer seasonal also on Christmas decor a little bit and then there's inflation. So is it fair to say that their core inventory or inventory on core goods is lower and what do you attribute that to?

Yeah, I think it's T.J. again here. I think that's probably well said. I think the big difference now as we go forward with the dealers is I think you're going to find that they're going to draw inventory much closer to when the POS comes. What we had seen during the pandemic is just given scarcity of supply, they really pulled forward their inventory buys which created a much different revenue profile for us. They've adjusted that going into this year because they feel much better and I mean fire notwithstanding they feel much better.

on what the back half of the year looks like from that perspective.

Okay, okay, great, that's helpful. And then I guess probably for Gregory, can you just elaborate on what would drive the MSA approval to be higher than the historical average in any given period? I mean, I know it's not really overly material to Q1, but I just want to make sure that we sort of understand the drivers of what actually...

would drive that accrual in each period.

Yeah, as I said, kind of, I think in the remarks, Mark and thanks to this guy, everybody, by the way, you know, there's an overall dealer contract that governs how we share kind of all of our billions of dollars of cost and of margin. And this is kind of one of the elements. So it contains, as I said, elements of cost, elements of margin. And really all this does is just as those elements might change from year to year, quarter to quarter, it would reflect kind of change in from that perspective. But when you've given me the window, so I'm going to take it. The reality is this does not have an impact for the full year. I just want to keep.

dealer contract, this is one of the pieces of it. Okay, I'll take it offline, please. Thanks. Thanks. All the best.

Thank you. There are no further questions registered at this time. I'd like to turn the meeting back over to Greg. Thanks, Valerie. Thank you for your questions and for joining us this morning. We look forward to sharing more at our annual meeting of shareholders at 10 a.m. today. Bye for now. Thank you. This will conclude today's earnings call. You may now disconnect.

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