Q1 2023 Altisource Asset Management Corp Earnings Call

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Good day and welcome to the AAMC investor call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Dania Sawyer. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to AAMC's Q1 2023 Annual Earnings Conference Call. I'm Donya Sawyer, the new Chief Operating Officer of Lending Operations at AAMC. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements.

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Statements made during this conference call are made as of today's date, and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. As previously mentioned, today's call is being recorded, and a link to this webcast will be posted to our website later today. With that, joining me for today's call is our Chief Executive Officer, Jason Kopchick.

And now I'll turn it over to Jason.

and now I'll turn it over to Jason. Thank you, Daniel.

It has been but seven short weeks since we last spoke. However, a lot was accomplished in that time.

As a reminder, we are a capital-light originator of private credit products.

In our business model, for every dollar of capital that we deploy, we can originate $10 of assets to sell.

Once we achieve normalized operations, we turn our loans on average weekly with a net margin of 150 basis points. This means that we expect to earn $7.50 for every dollar of capital deployed at the beginning of the year. On slide A.

assuming 20 million in weekly production, the original 2 million of capital required would grow to 17.5 million at the end of the year. Therefore, as we grow faster, we would expect to generate more excess cash.

Given the progress that we have made in building our loan production facility in pipeline.

We have led the closed loan portfolio runoff to position our capital to be available for wholesale and the direct-of-barroir originations, which reduce interest income for the quarter.

Even still, first quarter earnings improved by 1.1 million, reducing the first quarter loss to $3 million on revenue of $2.1 million.

Our product mix includes both short duration, one to two year term, high yielding fixed income assets, with a gross weighted average coupon of 9.5% to 12%.

secured by one to four family residential or multi-family residential properties going through value improvements, also known as residential transitional loans or RTLs.

as well as long duration, interest only, secured by income-producing residential properties, also known as DSCR loans.

Unlike our peers, we do not use loans to curization or banks as an exit for loans. Instead, we establish individual criteria for a buy box to sell loans to institutions with permanent capital such as insurance companies, endowment and pension funds.

Our investors do not have the infrastructure to originate, yet potentially have over a trillion dollars allocated to alternative fixed income assets.

I have 15 years of experience in unique relationships with these institutions.

As a reminder, once we have secured our takeout investor, we then go to originate these assets, these loans via our three channels, direct-to-borrower, direct-to-sales, and direct-to-return.

wholesale, and broker channel.

lending platform. She has made an immediate impact with the buildout of our loan production operations across all origination channels and manages relationships with institutional buyers.

We added three additional takeout investors, two of which have insurance money.

We are in talks with several additional takeout investors.

In 2022, we were primarily a buyer of closed residential transitional loans, but as of mid-January of 2023, as planned, we turned on our direct-to-borrow origination channel, and in late March, we did a soft roll-out of our wholesale platform.

As a reminder, there is materially more revenue and profits to be earned from originating a loan versus purchasing a closed loan.

Furthermore, if the customer experience is good, these borrowers often finance multiple projects each year. What is a–what is a Music-Sound

In the fixed income market, there's significantly more demand for self-originated paper.

Turning to our Q2 2023 goals and operating metric standards.

to go live with our wholesale platform.

Another goal of ours is to go live with our direct to broker channel.

For the RTLs, we are expected gross revenue per loan is in excess of 350 basis points.

For term and DSCR loans, our expected gross revenue per loan is in excess of 250 basis points.

Once stabilized, our cost to process a loan is expected to be $160 per file.

This represents a significant competitive advantage due to having our loan production principally conducted in Bangalore, India.

Our expected average loan size for RTLs is approximately 500k.

Our expected average loan size for DSCR loans is approximately 300K.

As we are still in the process of setting up our loan production lines, there is no guarantee that all loans in our current pipeline will close.

However, as of May 10th, our pipeline consists of the following.

Direct-to-borrower origination pipeline is approximately $75 million. The wholesale channel has a committed volume of $45 million. On slide B, the $62 million pipeline from the direct-to-borrower channel represents net submissions of 38,000 people.

million over seven last past seven weeks with a net of 11 million of closings.

The $45 million pipeline from the wholesale channel represents a net submission of $37 million over the past seven weeks.

net of 7 million of loan closings. We plan on rolling out our direct.

I'm sorry, a BrokerDirect channel this week.

For the past seven weeks, our net submissions have averaged 10.7 million per week and have groans of stancy over the period.

We expect continued growth in all three channels. By the way of example, on slide C, in the wholesale channel, we presently have five clients. Client 1 had net submissions of $29.5 million and has been active since March 1st. We have 100% participation of their sales force, which has four loan offers.

Client 2 has net submissions of $15 million, has been active since March 9th. We have approximately 2% participation of their sales force, which is approximately 250 loan officers.

Client 3 has net submissions of a half million dollars, has been active since April 27th, and we have approximately 5% of their sales force, which is 11 loan officers. Client 4 has a net submission of $1.5 million.

We go live with them this week, has approximately 600 loan officers.

Line 5, we will go live the week of June 1st, has approximately 2,000 loan officers.

Hence, we are focused on perfecting and scaling our operations.

I'm excited by the team's accomplishments since I joined as CEO last July . I'm looking forward to ramping our performance through the year. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for questions. Thank you. If you would like to ask a question over the phone, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad.

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We'll take our first question from Jeff Moore, Private Investor. Please go ahead. Hi, everyone.

Thanks for taking my questions guys.

On slide B, you say over the past seven weeks net submissions have grown an average of 10.7 million per week and accelerated over the period. What's the more recent weeks in that period about what of those averaged per week?

I don't have it broken out in front of me. We can circle back with that information.

But, I mean, at the end of the day, like, you know, over the past, say, two months, you know, you've had submissions of 10.7 a week, so call it, like, 45, 50 million a month.

which will put you on a run rate for kind of the targets you put out at the start of the year. And you haven't even really rolled out a lot of the broker wholesales yet. Exactly. So I think to your point, Jeff, what's interesting is if you look at our direct-to-borrower platform, what we've seen is...

Over the last seven weeks, our pipeline has more than doubled on the Direct-to-Borrow order. That's the channel we rolled out in mid-January. We did a soft rollout on wholesale, and the goal with that is that you roll out a channel, you're going to come across issues. —I

I think the first two weeks we had 15 million in submissions. Now we're up at 45 million. And we really are just scratching the surface. So the volume is picking up dramatically in the last three weeks. We feel good about it. But we are focused on the operations. We're focused on the process with our partners. So that way we give them a smooth experience. Because anybody can.

Okay. So on the execution front, like on average, how long does it take to close one of these loans and what are some of the challenges and the successes that you guys have had in kind of rolling this out operationally? So typically a loan on average, I think the average loan takes about 40, about 30 days. Okay. These, these are nuanced loans. Um, what we find is with our new construction, the borrowers are typically a little more experienced and they close a little quicker and the fix-and-flip, a little bit less experience, take a little longer. So what we found is Like exactly that is

you know, the more experienced borrowers have packages that come in quicker and tighter. What have we learned? We learned that there's a lot of demand, even as rates are dramatically up over the year before. We're not concerned about the amount of demand coming in the door. What we're trying to do is make sure that we have a tight process that we can close inefficiently and deliver a saleable loan. So,

What experiences have we had in the last 30 days? I think our packages are a lot tighter today than they were 30 days ago. The sellability of our loans are tighter. I've been on the trading desk for years.

And trust me, you'll see operations that have really sloppy closed packages. We don't want that. We want the loan, the borrower coming in, we want it closing in 30 days, and we want to be able to sell it within three to five days. So the amount of time that we're today at closing a loan is probably half of what it was two months ago, and our saleability has gone up dramatically, meaning the quality of the packages we put together are much improved over the last.

60 days. Okay, so you're going to be turning your capital every three days, every three to five days is what it sounds like, right? That's the goal. The goal, an ideal role when we get to normalized operations, we're turning the capital every three to five days. Okay, if we run the system right, it's going to...

Again, Donna, we brought Donna in for a reason. She's very experienced, she's very disciplined. The goal is we close a loan and we sell it, and we get reimbursed within three to five days. So that's our target. We feel comfortable it can be done. But with that being said, that's part of the process we're building out right now. But it's impressive.

So, good luck on that. Also, I was happy to see that you all repurchased just under 28,000 shares of stock.

Um... What um...

Are those three purchases, do you think you're going to continue them? How do you feel about those right now?

So the thought was...

We're there, we can do it. We still feel the stock is undervalued. So part of what we do is we have the ability to please the stock. Number two is if we feel that the stock is undervalued,

We don't have a strict amount that we have to put out and that we plan on buying, but we are opportunistic looking at the stock. So we still feel it's undervalued, but frankly...

Right now we're conserving our capital for our originations because turning our capital 50 times a year is more valuable than buying stock.

Okay. I got you. Well, thanks for answering my questions. I'll hop back in if I have anything else. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.

Okay, got you. Well, thanks for answering my questions. I'll hop back in if I have anything else. Thanks, Jeff.

As a reminder, if you would like to join the queue to ask a question over the phone, you may press star 1 on your telephone keypad now.

Again, that's star one if you'd like to ask a question over the phone. So there's a question that came in. It says, can you talk about the impact of the regional bank issues? I think it's a great question. So I want to come right out and say, look, our bank partners have been fantastic. They've been great partners.

They're very experienced banks in the real estate and mortgage space. They've come to us actually about increasing our line and doing more business.

So, from that standpoint, it's very comforting. The bank issues, I think at the end of the day,

The regional bank sector is overall holding up pretty well. How that affected us, I think we know what bank partners are good partners, so it's actually strengthened. We had great relationships with our banks. We had the ability to increase our lines, so that's shown that we picked the right partners. So I think for us it's been great.

Because we, again, we have aligned ourselves with the right banks who understand and are comfortable with the real estate space and mortgage space and their balance sheet is strong. And then some of our peers have been aligned with probably some of the softer regional banks and it's caused them some headaches. So I feel, you know, for us it's been a win-win for us.

Any other questions? As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question over the phone, you may press star 1 on your telephone keypad now. It appears there are no further questions at this time. I will turn the conference back over for any additional or closing remarks.

Well, I appreciate everybody's time. We look forward to the year ahead and have a great week. Thank you.

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