Q1 2023 Anaergia Inc. Earnings Call
Speaker 1: Listeners are urged to review the full discussion of risk factors in the company's prospectus, which is filed with the Canadian Securities Regulators.
Speaker 1: And lastly, while this conference call is open to the public, for the sake of brevity, questions will be prioritized for analysts.
Speaker 1: And with that, I turn the call over to Andrew.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Valéine.
Speaker 2: I'm on slide four.
Speaker 2: And there are five.
Speaker 3: main points on this slide.
Speaker 2: The first one is the fact that given our asset base,
Speaker 2: which is significantly above our share price.
Speaker 2: It is important to know that these assets are valuable and in fact they are more valuable than what we have in the books. The validation of that is the sale of a thunder asset.
Speaker 2: where we sold it for what we invested in and made an additional $10 million.
Speaker 2: We are continuing to see the unfolding of the support structure for RNG. This is very important and will create an increasingly large market. We are continuing to see the unrolling of these incentives.
Speaker 2: given the bureaucracy on Western nations, always takes a little longer, but it is starting to happen.
Speaker 2: and will definitely impact 24, 25 in a major way.
Speaker 2: We are also getting validation on our technology and our market presence.
Speaker 2: to major awards that have been added to the many other awards that we've won over the years. And this particular one I'll speak to in more detail in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: Of course, we are continuing to advance our full portfolio with all of the Italian projects.
Speaker 2: I finished sometime this year and amping up.
Speaker 2: Finally, at the end of the talk, I will discuss
Speaker 2: our recognition of where we are.
Speaker 2: and the work we are intending to do to shift the strategy from what we have been using to a new more cash flow oriented strategy. Moving on to slide...
Speaker 3: Five.
Speaker 3: I would like to just comment.
Speaker 3: on the fact that
Speaker 2: I've already commented on the incentives, so that's there.
Speaker 2: The other aspect is that we are now finding markets that weren't there for the RNG beyond the...
Speaker 2: California incentives and the federal incentives to the US.
Speaker 2: The first one shows that there is a real interest in a major company to use the RNG for other fuels, in this case hydrogen. The second one, both of which we have announced...
Speaker 2: is the case of Irving Oil, who wants to decarbonize its fuel base.
Speaker 2: And this is happening across Europe and it will be increasing in Canada.
Speaker 2: We are also making progress in getting recognition by multinationals.
Speaker 2: for our technology and we announced this briefly just a summary here.
Speaker 2: And last but not least.
Speaker 3: We are progressing very well.
Speaker 3: progressing very well, particularly in the US but also in Canada.
Speaker 2: on working with wastewater utilities, where we uniquely qualify to get a benefit from the residues that these plants produce, turn them into RNG. We received a contract just a few days ago from Monterey, and we're also being selected for a major build-on-operate plan.
Speaker 4: global
Speaker 2: of major water companies and major water users utilities.
Speaker 2: that get together once a year, and it's kind of like the Olympics of water.
Speaker 2: They provide prizes for the most, for the greatest accomplishment or the most impressive company.
Speaker 2: We managed to win not one but two prizes in Berlin just a few days ago.
Speaker 5: and
Speaker 2: The first one is for being the company that does the most for carbon, for reducing carbon. The second one is a recognition for what's considered the most important and interesting...
Speaker 2: This one is for being the company that does the most for carbon, for reducing carbon. The second one is a recognition for what's considered the most important and interesting project of the year.
Speaker 2: Given the large number of companies, much bigger, much older, multi-billion dollar companies and utilities, it's truly amazing that a model size company was able to win two of the top
Speaker 3: So we're very proud of this, but the significance is
Speaker 5: that.
Speaker 2: what we're doing very successfully in the US and Canada will be
Speaker 2: welcomed everywhere in the world and there's much more opportunities in this space.
Speaker 2: especially with this additional recognition, than we are showing at the moment. The challenge with this market is that it takes a while, but it's a really wonderful market where a long-term relationship can exist to the benefit of both parties, our utility as well as our company.
Speaker 2: So at this point I hand it over to Annie Casey. Thank you, Anne. Thanks, Fannie. Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining. Going to slide 7, the Q1 revenues at $37 million and 2.8 percent growth over the same period in 2022 were lighter than anticipated due to lower capital sales revenues and delayed blue revenues.
Speaker 6: The capital sales segment and the EMEA region remain strong contributors to the revenues at 67% and 71% respectively.
Speaker 6: The $4.2 million decrease in gross profit was mainly due to a combination of project cost overruns and certain strategic low margin projects in EMEA during the quarter.
Speaker 6: These are largely attributable to an O&M contract where the characteristics of the feedstock changed relative to the original parameters resulting in high residue disposal costs. We have recommended technical solutions to the customer to address this issue and improve the plant profitability.
Speaker 6: and also capital saves on brown feed facilities, where unexpected issues related to the existing infrastructure at the plant has impacted us.
Speaker 6: Although each brownfield facility is unique with updating our contracting and execution procedures to mitigate such risks on future brownfield projects,
Speaker 6: The net SG&A was $3.3 million higher than Q1 2022. The increase was largely driven by higher overhead costs, additional provisions, and higher audit fees.
Speaker 6: The adjusted EBITDA is $2.8 million higher than the same period in 2022.
Speaker 6: Losses driven by higher SNA and decrease in gross profit for the quarter were offset by the $10.2 million net gain from the sale of Toner, the project in Denmark.
Speaker 6: Q1, 2023 net income loss, which improved by $5.1 million compared to Q1, 2022, includes $5.1 million of non-cash loss on an embedded derivative and the gain from the sale of the startup design on the inner loop project.
Moving on to slide 8, as of March 31, our cash, cash equivalent, and current restricted cash was at $93.8 million. It's up by $15 million from the same date last year.
and non-current restricted cash was $15.2 million. In February 2023, the company completed the sale of tonnards with gross proceeds of €56 million.
That's on a book value of approximately 43.6 million euros and pre-transaction costs gross gains of roughly 8.4 million euros.
The net cash provided by investing activities during Q1 2023 is reported at $15.6 million. This is compared to $35.7 million used during the same period in 2022.
This was mainly directed at advancing the construction of the book portfolio. And the majority of the invested capital was funded at the subsidiary level with $21.6 million of debt and $8.9 million of preferred capital with the balance funded by the corporate proceeds from the issuance of our shared capital.
from $180 to $220 million and the updated adjusted EBITDA range from minus 10 to plus $10 million.
The key events, circumstances, and updated assumptions that have contributed to the guidance update are that the expected continuing feedstock shortfall at Rialto. It's unclear how quickly the commercial and multi-family generators under the RICICLA franchise would subscribe to organic waste collection and diversion services.
and by the end of Q2 2023.
While all our Italian booths are expected to have started operations in 23, it's difficult to predict when they will hit ramp up as they are dependent on external factors such as delayed electric utility connections and varying waste characteristics requiring plant optimization on certain of those plants.
So we have conservatively forecasted that the six facilities would be fully operational by the fourth quarter of 2023. And the last point is that we also reasonably anticipate additional client-driven delays on the capital sales project.
and cost and SNA overruns.
I will now pass it over to Yannick. Thank you, Hani. Moving over to slide 10, on the capital sales front, this quarter saw a decrease of 18% year over year, mainly attributable to completion of projects and customer-driven delays.
The capital sales segment continues to be driven primarily from the North America and EMEA regions. With that said, we are seeing significant growth opportunity with influx of inbounds primarily driven in North America by the IRA and in Europe by the RePowerEU programs. And it's important to note that these programs are massive tectonic shifts in driving infrastructure and cities and tribes throughout the United States.
major global companies, we're well poised to take advantage of this market surge and expect to have impacts in 24, 25 and beyond from these policies. The momentum in the capital sales business continues to move forward, validating the technology from major players.
we announced the supply to PepsiCo in two projects in Europe that will support reduction of scope one emissions.
as well as recently signed a major supply agreement to a California leading wastewater utility, Monterrey One, that will be supporting organic waste diversion and RNG infrastructure in California pursuant to the requirements. So the momentum continues to go and we see strong opportunity ahead.
Moving on to slide 11, on the service and boost segments, we saw an 18% growth in the service segment.
really driven from North American service contracts, and we'll expect continued growth in the service segment as the facilities that we are building will begin operation. These are third party supply contracts that will be converting into service or operations contracts through this year and next.
On the BOO front, we continue to see growth on BOO revenues. You can see the figures there, primarily driven by the continued increase in the operating revenue from the BOOs that are in operation and a major contribution from one of our assets in Italy.
Most notably, it's important to highlight that the booths are making a difference in the market. We announced the supply with Toyota for renewable hydrogen production validating the demand for this fuel, and more importantly on the platform fuel, well beyond transportation sector CNG only.
Moving on to slide 12, an update on the BOO overview here.
In Europe , the sale of the toner facility, as Andrew mentioned, was significant, not only for liquidity, but critically validating both the asset value that is worth more than what we put in, and the technology that this was a functioning plant that had met the deadline in a very aggressive timeline.
We view this as a proof point across the BOO portfolio. In Italy, we have delays on achieving operations of the plants. They're all moving forward. A lot of factors outside of our control. However, we continue to get the remaining three facilities expected conservatively to start operation.
track expected to finish their upgrades by Q3 of this year and contribute economically with the ramp up in Q4 with respect to Rhode Island. It's important to note now an underlying thesis in the market. We viewed the voluntary and compliance market as a...
very big demand-side opportunity, much greater than transportation, that would be most adequately and appropriately supplied by affordable carbon negative RNG, which is the type of RNG that we produce from organic waste.
We're seeing, albeit took longer than expected, validation across major market segments. And as we sit today, we are now supplying RNG for decarbonization purposes on long-term fixed-price contracts to major oil companies, Fortune 500, and major gas utilities. Again, validating our thesis of large demand-side growth that will continue to grow...
in the voluntary and emerging compliance market.
We continue to develop on laser-focused projects. As Andrew mentioned, a recent award of another build-on-operate at a wastewater plant, similar to our successful socal biomethane model. And large opportunities like Kent continue to advance forward.
With that, I'll pass it over to Andrew for slide 13.
Thank you, Yaniv. This final slide is called Business Reset.
is simply explaining to you
what we're doing given the circumstances of delays that...
make in the end has driven our share price way below where we think it should be.
But it also means that we can't just do business as usual. We have to act in light of that.
So the first one is that
raising capital at these levels is not warranted and not a good idea.
And so we have to shift to a more capital light, what we call capital light model. Essentially this means that instead of focusing on owning assets, we focus on cashflow and take advantage of a very powerful technology base.
and knowledge of projects, development of projects.
and operating the projects.
and operating the projects.
the projects. So in each of those steps
We will get rewarded from our financial partner who will want to own most if not all of these projects But that's okay with us because we will we will have strong positive cash flow and they can keep building more and more of these plans
our financial partner who will want to own most if not all of these projects but that's okay with us because we will we will have strong positive cash flow and they can keep building more and more of these plans.
In each of the projects we will get cash for development, we'll get cash for building the plant.
We will then get cash from operating the plant and then we also get cash for improving the returns on those projects or part of the return on the projects.
we will then get cash from operating the plant. And then we also get cash for, you know, for improving the returns on those projects or part of the return on the projects.
Margins have also not done well.
because of the complexity of some of our older projects.
that we're still dealing with. We have learned a great deal over time on what can go wrong in contracts, what can go wrong in execution of brownfield projects. And so we're putting this...
putting procedures, additional safety, and risk analysis into place to make sure that this doesn't go on on any future projects.
Our SGNA, given the fact that we cannot grow as fast as we intended to,
and we have to watch our capital. Our SG&E has been built up because of the desire to grow fast.
We will reduce this SG&A to be in proportion with the lower revenue base that you have seen today. In addition to that, we prudent and that's why the Capital Light Business Model prudent with cash flow.
and make sure that we finance our projects.
systemically.
We've had some unfortunate events around the CFO and the auditors.
This will be managed. Hopefully we will appoint an auditor by the end of May, and we should be also appointing a permanent CFO . We're excited about some of the opportunities for that.
So that brings us to the end of our talk and we are now ready for questions.
Thank you. We will now begin the Q&A session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. The first question we have comes from Derek Whitfield from
before. Please go ahead, your line is now open. Please make sure that you are unmuted locally.
Good morning, all, and thanks for your time. Perhaps at a high level first, could you speak to your expectation of interests from financial partners to pursue build on, operate opportunities under the Capital-wide Business Model you've outlined?
Thank you, Derek. I'll take this one on.
Those of you who follow the R&D market realize that
Those of you who follow the R&D market realize that we are
an oddity in this market. It seems that the market is
There is tremendous financial interest and there is
a major evaluation on companies in this space.
What we see is everybody wants projects so there's many more people wanting to finance projects and there are people offering them.
so that we think we can select.
companies that are purely financial institutions that on longer term investment and need a partner that can deliver the project.
and operate them for the financial partner.
So we've started this process, particularly for the European projects. We do have some partnerships in America and in Europe already, but we need a broader, bigger one in Europe , especially because of all the opportunities there.
We started this process, particularly for the European projects. We do have some partnerships in America and in Europe already, but we need a broader, bigger one in Europe , especially because of all the opportunities there.
I think the last thing that I might want to add to this Derek is that we have this enormous technology base and knowledge of the market so we think we can bring great opportunities to our financial partner.
Perfect, Andrew. And certainly I agree we see the demand from financial institutions on our side as well. So again, just wanted to understand that from your perspective and where it would specifically be applied. Thank you for my follow up.
I certainly understand your restorations with Rialto and it comes through in the release. Could you perhaps speak to your conversations with Recycla and local municipalities to drive enforcement of SB 1383 and what you're seeing come out of those discussions in terms of expectations? The relationship between a virtual internet!'
Absolutely. I think Kianiv is closest to all of them, although I'm also involved. Kianiv, will you take it on?
Yeah, happily, happily, of course. You're right, there is frustration not only by us, but by many stakeholders across the state, including at the state level on the sluggish rollout. You know, the situation on the ground is that it needs to happen, this rollout. It's required by law.
challenging because it sort of overlooked a requirement of rollout but more of a incentive with opting in and so that's really the fundamental issue that's trying to be solved for now is how to balance how to get this rollout without imposing
severe consequences that could be controversial or painful for generators financially. So what this means on our latest outlook, given that this is sort of fresh information evolving every month, is-
the rollout will happen as it must by law, but this issue needs to be resolved between the major stakeholders in LA. And unfortunately, we're sort of sitting here on the sideline. Needless to say, we still have conviction.
because what we're seeing across the state and the tenor and tone of regulators
that Rialto will be full one day. These three OREX lines that are coming online will supply and there is enormous asset value in this facility given its location, its exclusive outlet as a major outlet for the city of Los Angeles.
And so on a long term basis, this asset has tremendous value, but we do have a timing issue this year and into 24.
Understood. Thanks again for your time.
The next question we have comes from Aaron McNeil from TD Security. Please go ahead. Please go ahead.
Thanks for taking my questions. As it relates to the guidance I know you've provided.
I'm hoping to understand some of the specific assumptions.
As an example, what's the specific ramp-up scenario at Rialto that's embedded in the guidance? What are you assuming for the sequencing of Italian Boo facilities? When do you think they get utility connections?
What sort of margin expectations are you expecting for capital sales as the year progresses?
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Yeah, I can give an overlay and Hani can give some more figures. You know, at a macro level.
With respect to going in reverse to our capital margins,
The majority of our projects are maintained and intact.
across the portfolio. We've had an unfortunate timing event with the reasons Hani mentioned on Brownfield sites and unforeseen conditions that impacted at some of our capital projects.
in this time. So on a forward-looking basis, we will continue to enter into contracts and execute under primarily our Greenfield Capital projects that have historically maintained healthy margins.
you know, in the 20-25% range. And we expect to be counting on a go-forward basis, particularly with these new policies we're going to be implementing to course correct and learn from our lessons on those brownfields that didn't go so well.
With respect to the ramp up on Rialto, you know, given we keep being more and more conservative on the rate of ramp up, and at this point we are not forecasting the facility to be full this year. We are conservatively forecasting that that will be an event that occurs well into 2024.
simply because of the slow progress of just implementing this, the rollout of generators signing up. So we've downgraded in our guidance the rate at which generators will sign up, and frankly it's very difficult for us to predict. It's a human behavior shift.
of the slow progress of just implementing this, the rollout of generators signing up. So we've downgraded in our guidance the rate at which generators will sign up and frankly it's very difficult for us to predict. It's a human behavior shift across the largest city in California.
Honey, any other color on the gross margin part of the capital say, you know, the guidance is basically. Based on projects we already have in hand, and we know basic, you know, what is the margin expected on these particular projects? So it is, it is inbuilt into our, our estimate of the guidance.
And then on the Italian, the commissioning of the final three Italian facilities and utility, the status of, I guess, utility.
And then on the Italian, the commissioning of the final three Italian facilities and utility, the status of utility connections across all six.
My apologies Erin, I forgot to hit that one.
So we've learned from our first few plants that the forces like final permits and utility connections have had some large error bars. They're resolvable and we're learning now how to push through the bureaucracy faster and better, but given the experience of what it actually took.
or is taking, we've shifted back the Italian plans to Q4 operations because that's what we feel, to the best of our knowledge now, is conservative of realistic.
on timing. So we internally we hope to exceed this timeline but given the fact that we've seen you know a few months of delay in some cases with utility connections and the final permit we shifted back for another level of conservatism.
You've maintained this guidance for this theoretical $70 million of run rate EBITDA from the BOO facilities.
Obviously, there's been a lot that's changed.
Obviously, there's been a lot that's changed in terms of...
pricing for RNG since that time. So can you maybe give us a sense of what California LCFS price or what European natural gas spot price are embedded in in that 70 million run rate assumption and based on the Italian facilities and Rialto
Are the operating costs of those facilities in line with your prior expectations?
The answer at the macro levels for the most part for all of our assets except Rialto, the gas revenue is based on either a long term fixed price contract, which is certain.
or in the case of Italy, the fixed government incentive and a realistic expectation of natural gas, not the temporal peak during the Ukraine crisis.
And so again, with the exception of re-alt so that has more LCFS and rain exposure than the other assets, which have fixed.
We do feel that this is still representative with actuals from our plans today. It's an issue of
fully ramping up all the operations and then optimizing the operations to get there.
But, you know, what avenues would you be willing to pursue in the event of your cash balancing is decreasing to a point where you don't have that 12 month runway.
I guess, honey, if you don't want to take it on, I'll give it a try. Would you like to take it on? Sure. Sure. And not add to it. That's it.
Basically, on the 12-month runway, we have levers that we can use. Just as an example, with the funding, we have now room on the line of credits that we had. That is the possibility of the
of leveraging more of the assets, we can bring in additional senior debt to recover some of the funds that we have in place that we have already put in the project.
leveraging more of the assets, we can bring in additional senior debt to recover some of the funds that we have in place that we have already put in the project.
So, we have a number of levels that we have been looking at and we are keeping in the pockets.
We have a number of levels that we have been looking at and we are keeping in the pocket. Okay, that's all for me. I'll turn it over.
Thank you. As we are running short on time, the time allocated for the call, I will now pass over to Darlene Webb for any final remarks.
Thank you operator. I'll just quickly ask Andrew if there's anything he'd further like to add?
I think as we look at some of these resets and guidance changes and auditor change,
many of our shareholders
will be disappointed, but...
will be disappointed, but I, as are we.
But I want to remind everybody that we are still by far the most capable company in the RNG space technologically. We are by far and we have the ability to access.
Markers and no one else can. We are by far the most international and we have valuable projects that have a timing issue but ultimately are dramatically more valuable than we're given credit for right now. There's also no boxing, there's nourch Cro num Stewart
We are by far the most international and we have valuable projects that have a timing issue but ultimately are dramatically more valuable than we're given credit for right now.
Please don't give a hope on us. We will eventually get to what I funded the company for, what we built over time systematically to be the number one RNG company in the world. We have that opportunity.
It will take more time, but we are still in a very strong position to become the leader in this race.
Thank you very much for joining in. Thank you, Andrew. And as always, for additional information or if you have questions we weren't able to get to on this call, please do contact the IR team at IR at www.energia.com or visit us online at www.energia.com.
Thank you all once again for your time today.
Thank you all once again for your time today and operator you may now end the call.
Thank you. With that, this does conclude today's call. Thank you all for attending, and I wish you all a great rest of your day. You may now disconnect your line.