Q1 2024 DocuSign Earnings Call
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Speaker 3: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and welcome to the DocuSign Q1 fiscal year 2024 earnings call. I'm Heather Harwood, DocuSign's head of investor relations.
Speaker 3: Joining me on the call today are DocuSign CEO Alan Tegason and our CFO Cynthia Galore. The press release announcing our first fiscal year 2024 results was issued earlier today and is posted on our investor relations website. Now let me remind everyone that some of our statements on today's call are forward looking.
Speaker 3: regarding the pace of digital transformation and factors affecting customer demand are based on our best estimates at this time and are therefore subject to change.
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Speaker 3: During this call, we will present GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. In addition, we provide non-GAAP weighted average share counts and information regarding free cash flows and billing. These non-GAAP measures are not intended to be considered in isolation from, a substitute for, or superior to our GAAP results.
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Speaker 3: I'd now like to turn the call over to Alan. Alan?
Speaker 4: Thanks, Heather, and good afternoon, everyone.
Speaker 4: We're pleased to have delivered a solid start to the fiscal year, reporting financial metrics that exceeded our guidance.
Speaker 4: We announced new product innovations to enable smarter, easier, trusted agreement workflows.
Speaker 4: First some highlights from this quarter's financial results. Q1 total revenue came in at $661 million, up 12% versus prior year.
Speaker 4: Q1 non-GAAP operating margin came in at a healthy 27%.
Speaker 4: driven by our continued focus on profitability and efficiency.
Speaker 4: We're pleased with the early traction we're making against our objectives.
Speaker 4: However, we do continue to operate in a challenging macro environment with cautious customer sentiment evident in moderating expansion rates.
Speaker 4: Last quarter, I shared our plans to accelerate our product release cycles in fiscal 2024.
Speaker 4: What you'll see is that our roadmap builds on DocuSign's strength as the world's leading eSignature company, while also moving us towards enabling the entire agreement journey with intelligent workflows.
Speaker 4: We're deepening these capabilities to deliver more strategic value to our customers.
Speaker 4: With that, let me touch on three new releases that shipped this quarter.
Speaker 4: First, as mentioned on the Q4 call, Duxan web forms launched in April .
Speaker 4: In the first few weeks since launch, we're seeing strong traction for web forms across verticals.
Speaker 4: including financial services, real estate, healthcare, and life sciences.
Speaker 4: leveraging our differentiated approach to streamlining how agreements are generated.
Speaker 4: Web forms are simple and powerful for both senders and signers.
Speaker 4: They're easy to use and customers benefit from the ability to more easily capture and leverage data from their agreements.
Speaker 4: Next, we made strong progress penetrating and innovating in highly regulated markets.
Speaker 4: One example is our work in the healthcare vertical, which is undergoing dramatic digital transformation.
Speaker 4: We're proud that our eSignature product can now seamlessly connect to electronic health records in the U.S. market.
Speaker 4: including from EPIC and Cerner in accordance with industry standards.
Speaker 4: This will modernize the patient experience and improve efficiency for healthcare companies, while also deepening DocuSign's presence within the vertical. And finally, we introduced DocuSign ID Verification Premier, our tier of ID solutions which meet the highest levels of trust, security and compliance.
Speaker 4: Our first offering within this tier is ID verification for EU qualified e-signature.
Speaker 4: By combining verification of an ID with confirmation of the presence of the person on the ID, it fully replaces face-to-face verifications and a handwritten signature under EU law.
Speaker 4: We look forward to leveraging this powerful offering as we expand our business in Europe . More broadly, our strategy is to partner closely with leading identity services companies to leverage to integrate the best breed solutions into our platform.
Speaker 4: Looking ahead, I'd like to share our vision and thinking on generative AI.
Speaker 4: In brief, we believe AI unlocks the true potential of the Intelligence Agreement category.
Speaker 4: We already have a strong track record leveraging sophisticated AI models, having built and shipped solutions based on earlier generations of AI.
Speaker 4: General Red AI can transform all aspects of agreement workflow, and we are uniquely positioned to capitalize on this opportunity.
Speaker 4: As an early example, we recently introduced a new limited availability feature, agreement summarization. This feature would require a Late d-day
Speaker 4: This new feature, which is enabled by our integration with Microsoft's Azure OpenAI service and tuned with our own proprietary agreement model, uses AI to summarize and documents critical components, giving signers a clear grasp of the most relevant information within their agreement while respecting data security and privacy.
Speaker 4: Future launches will include search across customer agreement libraries, extractions from agreements, and proposed language and edits based on customer, industry, and universal best practices.
Speaker 4: DocuSign is a trusted partner to leading companies across many industries.
Speaker 4: As a leader in agreement workflows, we can use AI to deliver important values to customers by leveraging the world's largest set of agreement data, our proprietary agreement models, and deep integrations with best-in-class third-party models.
Speaker 4: We're excited to showcase new products and enhancements on our Intelligent Agreement roadmap, including significant AI-powered innovations, at our User Conference momentum.
Speaker 4: The event will kick off next week in Santa Clara with virtual and in-person events in eight cities around the globe over the next few months.
Speaker 4: Turning to our initiatives around our omnichannel go-to-market, we are continuing to drive deep relationships within our partner ecosystem and enhancing our AI capabilities.
Speaker 4: We were honored to be showcased in the main keynote at Microsoft's Build Conference as one of the first companies using Microsoft Azure OpenAI.
Speaker 4: This further underscores our growing relation with Microsoft and the opportunities we're seeing to enhance our AI capabilities.
Speaker 4: During the quarter, we also joined the SAP Endorsed Apps program. eSignature has been rigorously tested and validated by SAP to ensure that it seamlessly integrates with SAP solutions and meets their high standards.
Speaker 4: to join the SAP Endorsed Apps program, eSignature has been rigorously tested and validated by SAP to ensure that it seamlessly integrates with SAP Solutions and meets their high standards for quality and performance.
Speaker 4: We're pleased with the progress we're seeing across our partner ecosystem, which will continue to drive further adoption of our products globally. Last quarter, I shared how we are investing in product-like growth and self-serve capabilities in order to drive more go-to-market efficiency and deliver a better experience for our customers.
Speaker 4: This is one of our most important areas of investment as we evolve how DocuSign goes to market and further integrate our digital, direct and partner selling motions.
Speaker 4: Our digital business has stronger relative performance in Q1 as we launch a number of improvements on our website and within our product experience.
Speaker 4: These changes were designed to grow traffic, improve conversion rates, and drive monetization.
Speaker 4: to grow traffic, improve conversion rates, and drive monetization. And it's just the beginning.
Speaker 4: Whether it's a small business or a large enterprise, our vision is to make it easy for every type of customer to buy and consume our products in any way they prefer, self-serve, through our direct sales teams, or through a partner. We're going to go to market execution in the first quarter.
Speaker 4: We're pleased with how our field team navigated the distractions in Q1 as we rebalanced our approach.
Speaker 4: However, we are seeing more moderate pipeline and cautious customer behavior coupled with smaller deal sizes and lower volumes.
Speaker 4: We recognize it's a dynamic competitive environment across multiple categories.
Speaker 4: We're confident in our premium positioning, especially in complex and high-value use cases. As we've stated, international expansion remains a largely untapped opportunity for us.
Speaker 4: We're making investments not only with market specific product innovation like identity verification
Speaker 4: but also in stronger local market presence to strengthen our footprint.
Speaker 4: We recently released funding to further invest in Germany and Japan.
Speaker 4: And in Japan, note we just went live with our first CLM customer this past quarter.
Speaker 4: Further supporting our focus on international expansion, I'm pleased to share that Anna Mars, Group President of Global Commercial Services and Creditor of Fraud Risk at American Express has joined our board of directors and as a member of the Audit Committee.
Speaker 4: She's a fantastic operating executive with deep global experience and will be a great asset to the board and the leadership team.
Speaker 4: Finally, I am thrilled with the key hires we've announced to round out our leadership team.
Speaker 4: Most notably, Blake Grayson will be joining as DocuSign's new CFO next week.
Speaker 4: Blake's considerable track record and experience in finance leadership roles category leading public companies including Amazon and the Trade Desk making him a very strong addition to the DocuSign leadership team.
Speaker 4: I'd also like to take this opportunity to once again thank you Cynthia for her tremendous contributions to DocuSign as both a board member and as our CFO for the last four and a half years.
Speaker 4: I'm grateful for her partnership and strategic leadership as the company navigated immense change.
Speaker 4: In closing, we had a solid start to the year with strong financial results, continued traction on the key pillars of our strategic vision to transform agreement workflows and intelligence, and rounding out our leadership team with high caliber talent.
Speaker 4: We look forward to continue to share progress as we execute against our initiatives this year. Now, let me turn the call over to Cynthia to walk through our financial results and outlook.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Alan, and thanks to everyone for joining the call today. We had a solid start to the year, exceeding our top line and operating margin guidance.
Speaker 5: We made progress during the quarter against our priority initiatives and demonstrated leverage in our operating model.
Speaker 5: We remain focused on delivering value for our customers with easy to use, high ROI products, which in today's macro environment continues to be increasingly important as customers look for ways to drive more efficiency in their businesses.
Speaker 5: With that, let me turn to our Q1 Fiscal 24 results.
Speaker 5: For the first quarter, total revenue increased 12% year-over-year to $661 million and subscription revenue grew 12% year-over-year to $639 million.
Speaker 5: Our international revenue grew 17% year-over-year and reached 168 million dollars for the first quarter, representing 25% of revenue.
Speaker 5: First quarter billings rose 10% year-over-year to $675 million.
Speaker 5: As a reminder, Billings can fluctuate quarter to quarter due to the timing of deals and complexion of renewals.
Speaker 5: The macro environment continues to create uncertainty for our customers and we're seeing the impact of smaller deal sizes and lower expansion rates across the business as customers scrutinize budgets.
Speaker 5: Q1 Billing's outperformance was driven by a higher rate of on-time renewals.
Speaker 5: We are encouraged by initial signs of improved sales execution across our install base.
Speaker 5: We added approximately 45,000 new customers during the quarter, bringing our total customer base to 1.4 million, a 13% increase year-over-year.
Speaker 5: This includes the addition of approximately 9,000 direct customers to reach a total direct customer base of 220,000, a 21% year-on-year increase.
Speaker 5: We also saw a 20% year-over-year increase in customers with an annualized contract value greater than $300,000, reaching a total of 1,063 customers.
Speaker 5: The slight decline quarter on quarter was primarily driven by customer buying patterns, lower expansion rates, and partial churn.
Speaker 5: Dollar net retention was 105% for the quarter.
Speaker 5: We continue to see headwinds impacting our expansion rates coupled with muted customer buying patterns in a tough macro environment as budgets remain under scrutiny and customers optimize existing spend.
Speaker 5: Looking ahead, we expect the Q2 dollar net retention rate to continue to experience downward pressure.
Speaker 5: From a vertical perspective, we saw pockets of relative strengths within insurance and business services, highlighting the importance of our diverse customer base and durability of our model, while we continue to see headwinds across financial services and real estate. Our gross margin for the first quarter was 83%.
Speaker 5: last year.
Speaker 5: We delivered a record non-GAAP operating margin of 27% compared to 17% last year.
Speaker 5: This year-on-year improvement demonstrates our focus on profitability and the leverage in our business model.
Speaker 5: We remain committed to investing in a disciplined way to transform broader agreement workflows that will drive our top line over time. As we move through the year and execute against our operating plan, we expect a quarterly decrease in operating margin.
Speaker 5: non-GAAP net income for Q1 was $150 million compared with $77 million in the first quarter of 2023.
Speaker 5: The fiscal 2024 non-GAAP tax rate remains at 20%.
Speaker 5: Q1 Non-Gap EPS with $0.72. We ended Q1 with 6,586 employees compared to 7,642 the year prior.
Speaker 5: Operating cash flow in the first quarter grew 19% year over year to a record high of $234 million, or a 35% margin. This compares with $196 million, or 33%, in the same quarter a year ago.
Speaker 5: Q1 collections were at an all-time high benefiting from seasonality and enhanced automation and operational efficiency.
Speaker 5: Operating cash flow includes one-time cash expenses of $20 million in Q1 related to the 2024 Restructuring Plan we announced in February .
Speaker 5: Free cash flow for the quarter was $215 million or a 32% margin compared to $175 million or 30% in the prior year, a 23% year-on-year increase.
Speaker 5: We exited Q1 with more than $1.4 billion dollars in cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash, and investments.
Speaker 5: Turning to our share repurchase program, we repurchased over 700,000 shares during the quarter for approximately $40 million, which demonstrates our confidence in the durability of our business.
Speaker 5: As a reminder, we have strong cash flow and an attractive balance sheet that gives us flexibility to optimize our capital structure with a focus on opportunistically returning capital to our shareholders.
Speaker 5: With that, let me turn to our Q2 and Fiscal 24 guidance.
Speaker 5: While we are pleased with our Q1 financial results, it is still early in the year and we remain cautious in our outlook, given moderating expansion rates and slowing customer demand driven by the uncertainty in the current macro environment and continued competition, particularly in more basic e-signature use cases.
Speaker 5: For the second quarter and fiscal year 24, we anticipate total revenue of $675 to $679 million dollars in Q2 for growth of 8% to 9% year over year.
and $2.713 to $2.725 billion for fiscal 24 or growth of 8% year-on-year.
Of this, we expect subscription revenue of $658 to $662 million dollars in Q2, or growth of 9% year on year.
and $2.64 to $2.652 billion for fiscal 24 or growth of 8 to 9% year over year.
For billings, we expect $646 to $656 million in Q2, or flat to 1% growth, year over year, and $2.737 to $2.757 billion for fiscal 24, or growth of 3 to 4% year over year.
We expect non-GAAP gross margin to be 81 to 82 percent for both Q2 and fiscal 24. We expect non-GAAP operating margin to reach 24 to 25 percent for Q2 and 22 to 24 percent for fiscal 24.
We expect non-GAAP fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of $207 to $212 billion for both Q2 and fiscal 24.
We're pleased with the financial results in Q1 along with the resilience and focus the team has demonstrated as we continue to evolve the business.
We maintain a disciplined and focused approach to delivering profitability at scale as we invest for the long term.
In closing, I want to thank our amazing team for their commitment to delivering for our customers and partners and driving forward the vision for smarter, easier, and trusted agreements.
On a personal note, the last four and a half years has been an incredible adventure.
helping the company operationalize tremendous growth at scale while providing a stabilizing force to unprecedented change.
I am looking forward to what comes next and to seeing DocuSign continue to be the innovator of defining how the world agrees.
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One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from Tyler Radke with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, this is Kylie Tobin on for Tyler Radke. First off, Cynthia, just wanted to say congratulations and thank you for your time and you'll be missed. And on that note too, with Blake starting next week and the additions of Demetri and Kurt too.
would love to hear about sort of all of their biggest areas of initial focus. Thanks. Yes. So Blake will obviously step into Cynthia's shoes and take on the CFO responsibilities. So this will be about executing our operating plan, helping us uncover both.
top line and bottom line opportunities and in general executing our strategic roadmap. I think Dimitri will lead our product teams so reporting to Yimichu Osuh, President of Product and Technology.
very deep strong background from a number of different enterprise software companies and has been a real category creator and innovator. We're thrilled to have attracted him. Obviously product vision and leadership is incredibly important to our future. So this was a key hire for us and delighted to have to meet you on board.
And Curt is leading our security organization, which has enormous implications both from a risk and compliance perspective. We have a particular, given the nature of our business of managing highly sensitive documents and processes, it's essential that we maintain the trust.
of our customers. I think we've done a good job of that so far. I think Kurt will, it's a critical role with obviously responsibility to maintain and further grow that as we delve deeper into agreement workflows.
Great, thanks. And just one more, maybe for Cynthia. With the 8-point beat on billings this quarter, how did the early renewals trend relative to your expectations? And with the full year raised a little bit less than the beat, is it fair to say that the amount you raised guidance?
was operational beat and the rest was potentially pulled forward. Thanks.
Yeah, thanks Kylie and thanks for the kind words. So I think we were really pleased with the performance in Q1, and particularly on Billings. The beat on Billings was mainly due to strengths we saw in on-time renewals, which means the team did a great job of executing across our institution.
by the dynamics we're currently seeing in the business and some of the softness that I talked about in the prepared remarks around expansion rates and some of the other metrics. So we think the guide is reasonable for what we're seeing, but the Q1B was mainly driven by on-time renewals in the install base.
Sorry, I think I was on mute. My apologies. Yep, yep, sorry. The question is on... Good, good, great. Good luck, Cynthia. It's been great working with you. I wanted to ask a question around Agreement Cloud. I know it's still early here, but...
Where is the focus there? There are some components that I believe are already, you know, you're already well positioned for upsell into the base like eNotary and Analyzer. So just curious if that's an area of focus increasingly from here. Thank you. Yeah.
So we are focused on delivering a full suite of workflow tools across the agreement journey and then an intelligence layer that can assist really at every stage. I think we've shipped components of that in the past, but I think we're really looking to bring all that together and really fill out that suite, if you will.
We'll do a lot of that work this year. Some of the releases that you saw in Q1, we're very much emblematic of that. I'd add to that that I think the biggest change in our roadmap beyond that clear focus and articulation on agreement workflow is really the advent of generative AI. We've been working on AI.
We've released some new products and we'll release more next week at Momentum. But I'm sure we'll talk more about AI during the call, so I'll stop there.
We'll release more next week at Momentum, but I'm sure we'll talk more about AI during the call. So I'll stop there. Sounds exciting. Thank you, Alan.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Murphy with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you very much. Cynthia, could you just remind us what is it mechanically that causes subscription revenue to decline a little sequentially in Q1 and then returning to some amount of sequential growth in Q2? I know there was a lot of discussion about the potential of
There was an element of similar to that last year, but I'm just wondering if there is anything anomalous in Q1 or is that a pattern that would recur seasonally as we get into Q1 of next year?
Yeah, Q1 is a good observation. It's mainly due to the number of days. There's fewer days in the quarter in Q1. So this Q1 had a few less days than other quarters.
so that's the that's the main factor there. I think the revenue per day is up but the function of days in the quarter impact that for this particular Q1.
Okay, and just as a quick follow-up, how is the behavior if you drill down into the real estate verticals and if you think about it across both residential and commercial, is there any sign there that might cause you to think there could be some firming up?
as perhaps as interest rates stabilize or just having, you know, better performance in the equity markets. Is there any signaling there that is creating, you know, a sense of stability or optimism maybe as you get closer to the second half? Yeah, I mean it's a good question and we're certainly not economists.
and pockets of financial services continue to be softer than some of the other verticals like manufacturing or business services, which were stronger. So I would just say, you know, I don't know that we can prognosticate like what the future holds there, but we do have a diversified customer base that does.
help insulate our business given the long tail there, but real estate definitely is continuing to show softness along with other sectors or sub-sectors that have interest rates or mortgage exposure in this environment.
Okay, thank you and congrats on the nice execution in Q1.
that nice execution and Q1. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Brent Thill with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks, Alan. Just following up on the overall environment, would you characterize what you're seeing now as pretty consistent with what you saw last quarter?
Stabilize may be improved a little bit. Just try to understand the shape of what you've seen quarter over quarter. I think the macro environment is relatively consistent.
maybe improved a little bit just trying to understand the shape of what you've seen quarter over quarter. I think the macro environment is relatively consistent.
Yeah, we I would say you're digging in a little deeper if you look at it, let's start with with segments Maybe slightly better performance in the SMB segment than in the enterprise segment I think part of that is your larger companies just tend to be more immediately sensitive to the business cycle they also have you know centralized purchasing departments and other ways of
should say tightening spending in a very indirect directed way. So that subtle change, I'd say maybe slightly more pronounced this quarter than previous quarter, we continue to grow faster internationally than domestically, but I don't think that that's a material change.
And from a vertical perspective, as Cynthia mentioned, some strength, but I think those are much the same sectors that were doing a little better last time. And parts of financial services, obviously a little bit more challenged, but by no means all, by the way. So it's localized, let's say real estate and a few other things.
So overall, it's a pretty balanced picture. I wouldn't say there were major changes in our environment.
We are of course hoping to induce more change in the environment. We are probably well-mapped and we're excited with the new releases that we had and we're hoping to see a very rapid pace of new releases over the next few quarters.
We hope to disrupt that beyond the macro. Great. Just a quick follow-up for Cynthia. 27% margin in the quarter, yet you're guiding 23 for the year. Why such a big step down throughout the year?
Yeah, so I mean we outperform margin by quite a bit in Q1. And I think it really does demonstrate what we've been talking about for a while now, which is leveraging our business model. It's amazing when you don't spend money, you can make a lot of money. But that being said, we're focused on profitability, but also executing on the investments in a disciplined way.
by quarter the margin should go down by quarter which is implied in our guide but then also the run rate and bow wave going into next year like will be fully invested against that so that's the thought process but we'll be disciplined you know we're still in the long-term target range and we're raising the year by one point
relative to where we were 90 days ago. So we're really pleased with that, but we will invest for the long-term opportunity. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Alex Zukin with Wolf Research. Please proceed with your question.
Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. Congrats on good explanation in the quarter. Maybe just the first one, Alan, you kind of teased on wanting to talk a little bit more about AI. So I'll kind of try to zoom out a little bit and just ask if you think about the priority list for the company to reinvigorate the growth engine.
You know, stack rank in your mind, you know, like is it new products? Is it AI monetization? Is it the PLZ opening up kind of the umbrella? Stack rank if you would.
your strategic thought process on how to kind of reaccelerate growth for the business, and I just got a quick follow up.
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I think these things all impact us in different time frames, right? So, I think we overall, I would say product innovation is going to be the biggest driver and unlocker of our medium to long term growth. We do believe that we have...
very credible low-hanging fruit from better execution on our self-serve product at growth motion. And so that's a top priority to drive greater efficiency in the near to medium term. I think the AI impact is perhaps the biggest in the long term. And
We are starting to ship products, as I alluded to, and we'll announce more next week. But in terms of its overall impact on the business, I think it's still behind the other two in the near to medium term. But in terms of the long term potential of our category of agreement workflow, I think it's a massive unlock and a fantastic opportunity for DocuSign. And we are exceptionally well positioned to be able to do that.
our opportunity is both category specifically, it lends itself to AI, we have every stage. But if you look at DocuSign, we have deep experience built over multiple years of building agreement specific models. It's not the same as drafting a high school essay. And we have deep expertise and the level of accuracy that's required there. We also have the largest
data set of agreements of any company, I think, on earth, which puts us in a position to help our clients extract more value out of AI models. And then lastly, we are, of course, executing very deliberately and intentionally on partnerships with the leading cloud vendors and taking
full advantage of the innovation that they're powering. So I do the two I work with Microsoft and we're of course talking to the others as well. Super clear answer and very interesting. Maybe just as a follow-up Cynthia it's a bit unusual to hear about outperformance on...
is kind of intending on a below plan renewal. So maybe can you just help us understand how did you set that plan? And for the rest of the year, are you assuming that renewals come in at the rate they came in and Q1? Are you assuming a bit worse?
Just help us understand that dynamic for the rest of the year. Thanks for the question. It is a good one and I agree with you. It is a bit unusual. I think the dynamic is for software companies with subscription models, you have a certain level of... Getting started.
On-time renewals, early renewals, late renewals, you know, there's spill-in and spill-over every quarter, and we model it out pretty granularly. And so I think what we saw in Q1 is the dynamic of two things with on-time renewals, which means renewals that don't fall into the grace period and spill over to the following quarter.
So our rate of renewal is consistent and so it's really a timing of deals and those deals for on-time renewals more landed in Q1, which means in Q2 the implication is there's less spillover into Q2 so that is now baked into the guide.
We think it's attributable to two things. One is execution by the team that focuses on the install base, better execution and closing what's in front of them, which is great and we're really pleased with that. Then I think the other is there is a macro dynamic of less early renewal. So customers are really scrutinizing their budgets. When you look at things like expansion rates and deal sizes.
Thank you guys. Thanks for watching.
I would just add to that that we were very intentional obviously about encouraging our teams to focus on renewals and on consumption within our existing contracts. I just want to echo what Cynthia said that we made some adjustments there in terms of our organization and our incentive models and I think that was helpful as well. So kudos to Stephen.
the potential for the company to become a double-digit revenue growth company again. I note that the guidance for billings this year embeds around three to four percent growth, which is less than half of your revenue growth expected this year.
So I think in response to Alex's question, you talked about product innovation, self-service, like near-term growth drivers, and AI longer term, and could be the biggest. So I'm just wondering if things gel with AI in a few years from now.
Just talk about the potential for the revenue growth to be double digits again. Yeah, well, so.
Just to go back in time, I think, you know, 23 was a year change for DocuSign, fiscal 23 last year, was a lot of change. As I said on previous earnings call, this year is really about setting the foundation for growth. That is still true and we're starting to really make good progress, I think, on that foundation.
We are very excited about the long-term potential and we are reshaping the company to deliver on that. But that kind of transformation is not achieved overnight. So we're not changing our guidance beyond what we're providing guidance for next year at this time. But I'd say all the oily signs in terms of our initiatives and product innovation, self-serve as you mentioned.
when we're ready to share next year's targets later in the year. Okay, as a follow-up, the product revenue or innovation that you alluded to, is that referring to the three new releases, the web forms, the highly regulated markets and the ID, and some additional products perhaps later this year? Just to add to that,
In fact, we'll share some parts of our Q2 releases next week at our user conference. So I look at that at every quarter, you'll see pretty meaningful new functionality across our vision of delivering agreement workflows. Some of the things that I'm most excited about that we intend to deliver this fiscal year year.
but a little further out include things like searching across your repository of agreements. As you can imagine, incredibly important functionality. No one really delivers that today. I think we are excited to do that before the end of the year. Another example of something more evocative and enabling the future growth of the categories is what we call orchestration, which basically...
enables you to pick components of the DocuHind suite and any third-party app that we interface with and combine them in ways that are custom for your organization and workflow. We've had a lot of inquiries for that over the years. No one has ever delivered that in the agreement space and we intend to do that. So those are examples of things that are more evocative.
to unlock the full potential of the category. Thank you.
unlock the full potential of the category. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Rob Omes with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question. Great and thanks for taking my question. I think building on Brent's question a little earlier just wanted to better understand the the pace to spend as we move throughout the year because I guess 90 days ago
you had an operating margin that was at the low end ramping throughout the year and now the inverse is happening where you have the high water mark in Q1 and incremental spend so just trying to understand was there a change relative to spend trying to accelerate incremental products or what's going on from that perspective.
Yeah, I think in Q1, again, it's a good observation, I think in Q1 we saw lower spend across categories, so we just got a slower start to the year. So part of it was across the investment areas and the key priorities and net new hiring kind of got off to a slow start.
So the year will come up a point, but the overall spend again in the run rate and the bow waves will be in line with our expectation coming into the year across the AOP.
And I guess secondarily could you talk about pricing and what you're seeing in the more traditionally signature market throughout the
The various lenses, I guess, of where you're at in SMB and what enterprise looks like. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, what I would say overall is there's no question that compared to three, four years ago, the category's more competitive, especially in basic use cases. The overall market is awesome.
That said, our win rates are relatively stable. We are in remains. I'm a clear market leader. I think everybody else prices off us. We have a very strong value proposition and a resulting premium. Customers value the convenience and trust that we have, at higher sign rates.
the faster time to sign, as well as a variety of enterprise capabilities, integrations, security, privacy, etc. So I'd say the price environment seems to be highly competitive and
We think we're the market leader and we try to make sure we're paid for that, but we also don't want to lose business unnecessarily. So we're trying to be more agile in that regard in larger enterprise deals where there may be a blend of both. Over time as we layer in a lot of the functionality I've talked about, we're hopeful that we can.
bring greater value to our clients and that will allow us to overall increase our dollar footprint within.
within our enterprise and mid-market customers. Great, thank you very much.
and mid-market customers. Great, thank you very much.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Josh Baer with Morgan Stanley . Please proceed with your question. Thanks for the question and congrats on a good quarter. One for Alan, one for Cynthia. On CLM and Agreement Cloud, what are the
it's clear you're in a strong position to really leverage AI. And you talked about some of the ways that you're going to do that to improve your solutions and add more value. I'm wondering how would you gauge customer interest and timing of that interest.
Does the opportunity get pushed out at all? Are customers needing to reevaluate CLM in the context of AI and take time? Are there enterprise customers that are thinking about doing it in-house? If you could talk about some of that, like the time to realize the value unlock or...
Are you seeing near-term momentum? Yeah, that was a lot of questions. I think the first thing I'd say is there's definitely strong customer interest in the category, in the features and functionality. We see lots of inbound inquiries. We have some of our large SI partners who are making significant investments in the practice, their CLM practices. So, the overall demand environment I think is robust, and I don't think we've really seen it.
direction. Overall I would say CLM, we believe it has great potential.
But it also hasn't quite fulfilled its promise yet. It's been two custom, two services heavy, too long time to value. So we really want to reimagine the category to be software first, with quick time to value, delightful workflow across all the functions that use it, and exceptional out-of-the-box analytics and insights driven by AI.
liked was we work with a lot of pharma and biotech clients. They use CLM to quickly analyze and assess their corpus of agreement that allows them to respond to market events, create efficiencies, mitigate risk. They use our insights product to understand the rebate opportunities in their supplier agreements. That's a great example.
of really extracting business value beyond just being more efficient in how you manage your agreements. So overall, we're very bullish on the category long term. We think it does need to be reimagined and we intend to leave that.
Great. Just a real quick one for Cynthia. Professional services revenue, I think, was a record this quarter. Anything to call out for the strength and upside there? Yeah. So, in that professional services and other category, we do still have some on-prem services.
software, you know, that's part of the legacy product suite. And so there was a Q2 deal that fell into Q1. So again, it's a really a timing of deals and so that was an on-prem deal that led to that upside in the PS and other line.
Okay, thank you, Cynthia. Congrats and good luck. Thank you, Josh. Thank you. Our next question comes from Jake Robear with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, thanks for taking my questions. You've talked a lot about the product-led growth initiatives that you've started to put in place, but just thinking about the other end of the spectrum with your direct sales motion, now that Steve's been in the seat for a little over a year, are there any new opportunities that he's looking into for that direct motion? I know you talked a little bit about Partners International.
but you're still kind of in those eight direct field territories internationally. So just curious if there's any updates on the direct side. Yeah, I mean that continues to be the vast majority of our business. And I don't see that changing in a very long, very long time. I think Steve has now his team fully in place. They've all ramped and, you know, he's just
a new level of professionalism and maturity there. And we are working to augment their capabilities in every area. So whether it's our marketing, our training efforts, our bumbling
I think we have opportunities in every area to become a better enterprise sales software company and Steve is helping us move in that direction. So that is continues to be critically important for the company. I think we're making great good progress there. And as we ship more product we have a sales channel that's very ready and able to...
to capitalize on that. Great, and then just digging a little deeper into generative AI opportunities seems pretty interesting with your agreement models and then just the ability to better utilize all the data within your contracts. I'm curious how you're thinking about maybe your monetization plans for the tech.
then I know it's still early days but is that something that can start showing up early next year or is that still still too early there? Yeah, as I alluded to earlier I do think relative to just execution of our agreement workflow roadmap and PLG it's a little further out in terms of impact. In terms of monetization.
I expect AI features to be both bundled as part of our baseline products, strengthening their functionality and value as I suggested earlier, and in some cases packaged as a separately charged add-on. And we do both today. So if you take our Insights product, which is really our our AI driven analytics product for CLM.
We both have a standalone skew that's sold separately as well as a premium bundle. I think we're going to need to learn a little bit more about how customers want to use this and what the key value drivers are before we finalize how we price the different features. But I'm certainly mindful of wanting to capture the value of the features that we're going
deliver the most value and capture the most value for DocSign as we price it.
deliver the most value and capture the most value for DocSend as we price it. Great, thanks for taking my questions.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Turing with Wells Fargo Securities. Please proceed with your question. Hey, thanks. I appreciate you fitting in. Just one for me, maybe on expansion rates. We're hearing some software companies start to comment around
when they'll hit a 12-month period and start to lapse some of those impacts. Is there any sense you have at this point in time around where or when the expansion headwinds start to settle assuming we remain in a similar environment? And our gross retention rates, I know you had a comment last quarter on those, are those still holding consistent here? Just any additional context has helped.
you know, the different metrics. Pressure on expansion rates is the largest contributor to the pressure we're seeing on the top line metrics, and so we would expect that to continue just based on what we're seeing and what we're expecting in Q2 on dollar net retention. And again, you know, that has been um
you know really attributable, you know if you think about why is it compressing, you know things around customer buying behaviors, scrutinizing budgets more generally, you know some of the tea leaves around the macro factors you have to remember where a land and expand model. And so you know within that you know as companies land the rate of them expanding is coming down, and you see that even this quarter in some of the customer metrics, so I think those you know those
Those handful of things are really driving that expansion rate and you see it more backward looking in dollar net retention but you see it in some of the other metrics on a real-time basis as we move through the quarters. And then gross retention rates, I know you mentioned partial term, but are gross retention rates consistent still? We don't disclose gross retention but I think when we look at various things like the expansion rates and we do internally look at churn rates.
expansion rate is really driving, you know, driving kind of the compression that we're seeing more than some of the other pieces. Thanks Cynthia, best of luck to you. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from George Iwanek with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question. Thank you for taking my question. Alan, maybe can you expand a little bit on what you're seeing in international markets?
Most of the international markets are at an earlier adoption phase. I think a lot of that is due to regulatory history and cultural habits, but we see that really starting to change now. So it's one of the reasons that gives confidence to invest.
As I mentioned, we're particularly beyond the major English-speaking markets and a few existing large European markets like France. We're really investing in Japan and Germany to fully capture the opportunity there.
Beyond the investment in our direct sales and back office functions in those markets, self-service and partners as you alluded to are key levers. So that includes partnerships with SIs, I've met with several in my international travels, distributors, etc. And of course our self-service capabilities are particularly suitable for
are reaching a lot of markets where we can't put a lot of resources on the ground. And then we're investing heavily on the product side. I mentioned the ID verification. We're a qualified trust service provider in the EU and a dedicated team and pretty strong in-market customer relations on that front.
So overall I'm very bullish on international opportunity and I think the entire company is excited that we're aligned and investing. We are being quite disciplined with which markets we're adding, should we say, direct sales efforts into and the rest will be partner and self-service.
Okay, just a follow up on you mentioned the EHR interoperability in your opening remarks. What are you seeing in healthcare right now?
I think it's one of our bigger opportunities from a vertical perspective. We're seeing everything from insurers to hospital chains to chains of doctors' offices adopting.
signature and forms-based solutions to aid patient login and registration and disclosure. And so I think really low-hanging fruit is still early days in the digitalization of the healthcare system and I think we can play a really meaningful role in that. We're seeing a lot of inbound interest in that.
it's a highly regulated area so the bar is higher to participate. I think the good news is we're in the front of the market there and that'll be a positive competitive dynamic for us as well. Thank you. Thank you.
Our last question comes from Jackson Adder with SVD Moffett-Masonson. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Thanks for seeing us. And this is Kyle, the Alon for Jackson. Just a quick one. I think Cynthia, you might have alluded to it, but as we're thinking about investment in the back half of the year, are those, is that kind of higher velocity that can be adjusted as you go? Are those investments, you know, talking about that's falling down to the operating margins, that is that longer term strategic?
more so in the year. Thanks. Yeah, I would say we evaluate as we move through the year, but the intention right now is to invest into the plan that we had coming into the year. It just got off to a slower start.
So I'd expect the expense to be higher in the back half of the year. Again, we're really pleased to be able to increase the margin for the year by a point, but the bow wave and the run rate, we would expect to be about the same, but I'm sure the team will evaluate it as we move that pace. There are pieces around headcount as we hire people that will naturally...
I would like to turn the floor back over to you Alan for closing comments.
Thank you. Thank you, operator. Thank you all for joining today's call. We appreciate your support as we continue to make progress towards our long-term vision for the business. In closing, I think we delivered a solid start to the year and we remain focused on our execution to deliver value to our customers and our shareholders.
I do want to reiterate my enthusiasm for our product roadmap as we're confident that our investment in innovation and talent will be key moving forward.
If you want to continue to see some of the progress we're making, I encourage you to watch our one-hour keynote at Momentum Wednesday next week as we share more updates on our vision and our products.
I also look forward to sharing more with you throughout the year. Thank you very much. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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