Q2 2023 AbCellera Biologics Inc Earnings Call
Welcome to accelerate second quarter 2023 business update we are pleased to have you with us today as we discuss the results announced in our press release issued after the market close today, which you can find on our Investor Relations website with me on the call today are Dr. Carl Hansen, and seller as Chief Executive Officer, and President and Andrew <unk>.
And seller as Chief Financial Officer the.
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Thanks, Tim.
In preparation for today's call I was reflecting on conversations that we've had with investors over the past few years.
In the best of cases, we've had the opportunity to build deep relationships and a clear understanding of what we're doing as a company as well as trust in our ability to execute.
In newer relationships, we often get questions from investors that are related to antibody antibody discovery space and how our company or our platform our strategy differs from competitors.
Okay.
Accordingly, I thought I would start today by sharing some perspective on the different markets and business strategies that are associated with antibody therapies.
First antibody discovery is not one thing.
It is a collection of hundreds of different steps each contributing to the goal of finding a best in class therapy that meets all the needs for a therapeutic program.
Some examples of these activities include regent generation immunization screening sequencing DNA synthesis molecular engineering expression purification functional testing affinity maturation immunogenicity assessment physical characterization liability assessment and much much more it's a long list.
The point is that antibody discovery cannot be reduced to a single technology.
It can't be built overnight.
And it takes many years of investment and hard work to assemble and integrate the people facilities technologies knowhow and relationships that are needed to bring drugs efficiently from the idea stage to clinical testing.
The better these capabilities the greater the speed efficiency and the likelihood of success.
This is what we've been building over the past decade.
When antibody discovery is successful it results in a small number of antibody sequences typically a development candidate and a few backups that are ready to advance into cell line development and IND, enabling studies and then into clinical testing.
Given the difficulty and complexity of this endeavor. There are many different types of businesses that are associated with antibody discovery.
For example, some companies focus on selling instruments that offer point solutions to one or more of the steps in the process.
Their end market is the sale of instruments and consumables to biotech pharma and contract research organizations and they make their money by capturing a margin on the sales.
Accordingly, their goal is to sell as many instruments and devices as possible with little emphasis on and no participation in the success of each program.
There are other businesses that focus on providing research services that address one or more specific stages in the antibody discovery process.
Here the end market is the sale of outsourced R&D for biotech and pharmaceutical companies and work is typically done on a fee for service basis.
Again this means that their goal is to work on as many programs as possible, while maximizing margins and have and that they have no participation in and again little emphasis on the success of each program.
By contrast accelerate is in the business of discovering new therapeutics that actually reach patients in need around the world.
We do not run the business to maximize deal volume, we structure deals to maximize value associated with the success of each program and we're selective about who we work with and what we work on.
Ultimately in every program, we do whatever is required to make the program successful.
Although we generate near term revenue associated with research fees. This is not our end market. Our end market is the sale of antibody therapeutics. This.
This is a much larger market that was estimated to generate annual sales of $250 billion in 2022 and is projected to reach well over $400 billion by 2030.
We believe that our success in this market requires a high degree of technical differentiation.
Discipline in selecting the partners and programs, we work on and patient execution of our strategy.
Our strategy is to build a technological advantage and our antibody discovery engine.
And to use this engine to assemble a large and diversified portfolio of economic positions in programs that are ultimately developed and commercialized as medicines by our partners.
In line with this strategy a large portion of our time and capital is directed towards building the engine.
This is our competitive moat and it is the foundation for all of our business initiatives.
Intangible terms our engine includes a high performance team.
Our suite of proprietary technologies, Knowhow and data assets.
Over 600000 square feet of state of the Art lab and office facilities that are either online or under construction.
And the integrated software systems processes, and workflows that bring it altogether.
Over the past quarter forward integration remains a major focus of our platform development recruiting and infrastructure projects.
This effort includes building capabilities in translational science process development and manufacturing that we expect to be complete by 2025.
The functional goal of our engine is to provide a full solution from program concept to IND filing.
As a result, we also need to build regulatory and clinical development capabilities.
These efforts are well underway.
Equally important to establishing our core capabilities and perhaps the most challenging is complex coordination of our workflows and technologies.
This effort includes building data systems software and processes that are fully integrated with all experimental capabilities.
We believe this type of integration is unique in that it provides durable competitive advantage for our business.
It is integration that will allow us to do antibody discovery and development at greater speed scale and precision than has previously been possible.
We will achieve this through the continuous testing an improvement that can only come through advancing multiple programs from concept to the clinic.
This quarter, we made a significant announcement with the governments of Canada, and British Columbia to advance this objective.
As part of an eight year project worth $519 million, we secured $222 million in non dilutive financing from the government of Canada and British Columbia.
This project directly supports our strategic plan on three main axes.
Completed completing the build of our facilities.
Establishing and validating fully integrated capabilities to take programs from concept to the clinic.
And supporting the development of up to 17 pre partnered programs up to and through phase one clinical trials.
The impact of this new non dilutive funding on our business includes a stronger liquidity position that will allow us to aggressively execute on our strategy with a high level of capital efficiency, a stronger engine that allows us to offer highly differentiated end to end capabilities to select partners.
And a strengthened portfolio through the advancement of multiple multiple wholly owned pre partnered programs from initiation all the way to phase one clinical trials.
In particular this new government funding will allow us to advance more pre partnered programs, including those arising from our technology development efforts in two strategic areas T cell engages and ion channels in <unk>.
We believe success in these programs will drive value in multiple dimensions of the business first they provide a forcing function for platform development and improvement, including the establishment of integrated manufacturing capabilities.
Bringing programs to a value inflection point will create high value out licensing opportunities that bring cash flow forward and allow us to capture a greater share of downstream value.
And third demonstration of our ability to succeed on targets and problems that are widely viewed as intractable will attract additional and higher value partner initiated programs.
As I said earlier through this work, we will build capabilities and translational science regulatory affairs and clinical development.
Im pleased to share that Jeff nickel, most recently at Biomarin will be leading this effort as our head of pre partnered programs.
<unk> brings deep expertise in building and leading teams and it's brought multiple new medicines through to approval I'm excited to be working with Jeff and to have him on board and we'd like to warmly welcome him to be a seller of team.
And with that I'll hand over to Andrew to discuss our financials Andrew.
Thanks Carl.
First let me highlight progress made on our key business metrics in the second quarter of 2023. This quarter. We started work on five new discovery programs, taking us to accumulative total of 106 partnered program starts.
As a reminder, the number of starts in any given quarter will be irregular over the trailing 12 months. We have started work on 18 partner initiated programs, we signed no new programs under contract in the quarter and ended the second quarter of 2023 with 177 programs under contract with 41 unique partners.
As we have stated in the past week, we continue to do more work and add more value per program, we focus on and emphasize the quality of the programs that we work on rather than their absolute number.
As we mentioned on the last call. The numbers included in our key business metrics do not include pre partnered programs from our internal technology development efforts.
We see evidence of the differentiation of our engine and the value. It creates when it attracts partnerships from the most innovative and best established drug developers in the industry additional evidence.
Evidence that we're creating value is when our programs reach patients through clinical trials and in Q2 2023, we continue to report nine molecules in the clinic and we view this growing list of molecules in the clinic as specific examples of our near and midterm potential revenue from downstream milestone fees and long term royalty payments.
Turning to revenue Rec.
Revenue in the quarter was approximately $10 million almost entirely driven by research fees relating to work on partner initiated discovery programs. This compares to approximately $13 million in Q2 of 2022. The decrease is primarily due to a shift away from work on higher upfront free programs, such as our contract with DARPA on <unk>.
<unk> response.
On the broader portfolio of programs. We actively worked on approximately 20 programs in the quarter and had an approximately 10% year over year increase in revenue from the underlying work of this portfolio.
This quarter's revenues also included some small amounts related to licensing fees and there were no new milestone payments in the quarter.
Turning to operating expenses, our research and development expenses for the second quarter were approximately $36 million.
Representing a roughly $10 million increase over the same period of the previous year. This increase reflects the continued growth in program execution and platform development and.
In sales and marketing expenses for the quarter were approximately $4 million.
Compared to $3 million in Q2 of 2022.
This increase reflects the continued investments in our business development activities.
And finally in general and administration expenses, we had approximately $16 million of expense compared to approximately $14 million in Q2 of 2022.
This modest increase reflects some operating leverage that we continue to see in our G&A investments, which we make to support the grow overall growing business.
Looking at earnings we are reporting a net loss of roughly $31 million.
This compares to a net loss of approximately $7 million in Q2 of 2022.
The increased loss reflects our continued investments in the business and the absence of royalty revenues that were present in Q2 2022.
In terms of earnings per share the quarters results to work out to a loss of <unk> 11 per share on a basic and diluted basis.
Looking at cash flows.
Operating activities for the first six months of 2023 used roughly $24 million.
In the absence of regular royalty revenues, we would expect our quarterly operating cash flow to be irregular and often negative as we continue to invest in the growth and capabilities of the company.
As a part of our Treasury strategy, we have over $615 million invested in short term marketable securities our investment activities for the first six months of the year include approximately $106 million net increase in these holdings as a part of our overall cash management strategy.
All other investment activities amounted to approximately $78 million, including $42 million invested in property plant and equipment and $37 million in long term investments.
Investments in property and equipment of course, driven in large part by our ongoing work to establish CMC and GMP manufacturing capabilities.
Altogether, we finished the quarter with over $820 million of cash cash equivalents and marketable securities.
We have historically been successful at raising non dilutive sources of capital and as Karl mentioned this quarter, we announced an over $220 million funding commitment from the governments of Canada and British Columbia.
As a reminder, our continuing GMP facility build out is also separately co funded by the government of Canada's strategic innovation fund.
This available capital does not show up on our balance sheet and for this reason our non dilutive government funding should be taken into account when evaluating our overall liquidity position with.
With over $820 million on the balance sheet and cash and equivalents plus the recently announced $220 million of government funding added to the previously secured funding we have well over $1 billion in total available liquidity.
This is far more than our liquidity position from one year ago. When we reported our Q2 of 2022 financials.
With respect to our operating expenditures our capital needs are very manageable and we remain in a strong liquidity position that allows us to fully execute on our strategy with excellent visibility and runway. We continue to believe that we have sufficient liquidity to fund well beyond the next three years of investment and growth.
And with that we'll be happy to take your questions.
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Our first question is from Andrew <unk> with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions Carl maybe one for you first thanks for the thoughts on how you are differentiated from others in the antibody discovery business.
I wanted to ask is al on AI is theres, obviously been a lot of focus here and excitement in the area.
Particularly around how it can be leveraged to disrupt the drug discovery and development process would love to hear your perspectives here on on where this technology stands today, how youre using it specifically in your platform and and your thoughts on where it goes from here. Thanks, so much.
Thanks, Andrew I appreciate the question.
Certainly there is a lot of buzz out there and we have a lot of conversations with investors who are trying to understand what is real in the AI space and what is not.
First.
One perspective is that what has happened recently is that there have been some big breakthroughs in AI associated with technology that everyone can see and understand most obviously chat GPT.
I think the the naive.
The assumption then is that AI has reached a tipping point, where it can solve any problem and people are racing defined whereas AI is going to make the biggest difference in other sectors, including antibody discovery.
I have actually I've had people come to me and ask what does chat GBT mean for your business.
The short answer is it means nothing for antibody discovery.
The the conclusion is that in order if you have huge datasets and you have the ability to quickly refine models.
Have examples now an alpha fold and chat GBT.
AI can create some some big lifts and some surprising power in doing prediction.
In the antibody space, there's been a lot of talk about generative AI and there's a couple.
Dimensions of this that I think.
People should think about more carefully so the first is how you set up the problem and very often the promised setup as I've got a target.
And I'm going to use.
Our machine learning algorithm in order to try to design, an antibody that binds on a specific part of the structure.
So if you set it up that way the first thing that Youre doing is youre, making an assumption that you know where you want to bind on a target to get a good drug and generally that is not true. So one of the biggest things you need to learn in drug discovery is which part of the target is best to engage with the antibody. So if you start by picking the spot you've eliminated a huge number of solutia.
<unk> that could get you to a better therapeutic.
The second part is that today. Our view is that we are very far away from being able to de novo generate an antibody that would have the right properties for development and that could actually recognize that part of the target.
There have been some examples of doing that particularly typically they start where you already have an antibody that binds on location, where you've built a model where you have many many examples of antibody antigen interfaces and if that's the case then you've actually already solved the problem before you've begun so it's not a real problem that moving forward.
Now on the flip side there are some really powerful applications of artificial intelligence and machine learning that can be applied across drug discovery in our particular space. They fall into two categories. In the first one is in using machine learning models and artificial intelligence to very quickly analyze complex data sets and.
Extract actionable information. So we use this in a variety of steps in data acquisition and that allows us to accelerate to scale to increase efficiency and to increase the precision of the initial experimental status.
The next piece that is exciting and where we see a huge opportunity in fact, I believe we have an opportunity in this space that is <unk>.
Bigger than anything else that I've seen in the antibody discovery universe.
Is if you start with many different antibodies and solutions, which we can generate you can use machine learning and artificial intelligence methods.
To better design variance that allow you to more quickly optimize and refine antibodies. That's work that's in progress and we think thats, a very exciting way to accelerate and improve the process of antibody discovery now the final thing I'll say is that this is a long road. So we think we've got a huge opportunity in order to win in this what you need is experimental.
<unk> ability to generate the data you need to have done the hard work on the software systems to organize and create the relationships between the different datasets.
And then you need the ability to quickly do the experiments and build the models and iterate. So you can finally finally refine those so that's that effort is underway and we think it's got a big future, but we are.
We're also cautious that currently there is.
More expectation than the science is really ready to deliver at least in some some applications of artificial intelligence.
Okay.
Great. Thanks, so much.
Our next question is from Antonio or Vienna, with Bloom Burton Your line is now open.
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So my first one is regarding the acquisition of <unk>, which is one of your co development partners. So just wondering is there a path forward for those programs that you are co developing with them.
And are any of the <unk> programs included in the six co develop that program that you've started to date.
Great question Carl here I'll take that one so we have started three co development programs with <unk>.
Those programs our understanding is they will not be developed by revolution.
But those programs.
The way that that deal is structured <unk> has a 50% ownership for an option to a 50% ownership in each of these.
Those programs are exciting and we're currently talking to <unk> about what will be the fate of those programs that there'll be spun out into a different company or if they will be returned to us.
Either way, we would either maintain.
Our option or our percent ownership or we would we would have.
Full control of those programs are moving forward and so either way I think that there is.
There is a path forward and I don't expect that the transaction that's happening is likely to slow down the development of those all of this is very new of course, and we are talking to the <unk> to see what is the best path to those.
Okay, Great and I just have one additional question and Thats regarding your CD three panel.
So you've generated some pretty compelling data in mouse models, but just wondering if you could provide a rough timeframe for when we could see additional data, including in nonhuman primates and also do you believe these studies are necessary to sign.
A blue check Blue chip partners yet.
Okay.
I'm happy to take that one so with respect to the TCE programs.
As you said, we've done terrific work and have made I think a very impressive foundation in a science for the platform that is focused on being able to generate net next generation Tce's. So that includes what is now we believe the largest and best characterized and.
In our view of the highest quality panel of anti CD three antibodies.
As well as the ortho mab platform to combine those and the functional assays to quickly bring them together with tumor associated antigen binders to make therapeutics.
On the on the basis of that work as mentioned before we have initiated.
Five TCE programs on a variety of different tumor associated antigens. Two of those were announced previously and presented that was the major for work in the <unk> work.
At the same time, we have been engaging with a variety of players I would say probably.
Certainly a large portion if not the majority of the Blue chip companies that are actively interested in this space.
Feedback has been first that this space remains a very high interest. So that's a very positive signal.
And that the science and the caliber of the platform that has been developed is world class I've had.
Just a couple conversations where it was characterized as the best that it has been seen in the industry.
So those are conversations that are going well.
In order to bring that to a deal that would be of the value that we expect and intend to get on this platform.
It probably will require more work.
And the work I don't think is in generating primate data, but rather improving that.
The diversity of <unk> III and the quality of the science of the backend can be used to generate assets that have the profile.
That appears to be superior to what is being developed using other technologies.
That work is underway that's associated with our TCE programs and we are intending to.
To present that at one or more major scientific conferences in the next next few months hopefully this year.
Okay. Thanks, a lot.
Our next question is from Steven Mah with Cowen. Your line is now open.
Great. Thanks.
Thanks for taking the questions.
I appreciate you're not giving guidance for 2022.
And that milestones were zero in the quarter, but how should we think about milestones this year.
I'm asking because one of your peers indicated that their milestone expectations are being pushed back can.
Can you give us a sense of what youre seeing in terms of milestones potentially being pushed back at Epsilon and I. Appreciate you guys don't have a ton of color either with your partner programs.
Yeah, Hey, Steve It's Andrew here. So thanks for asking the question, yes, as you know we don't provide the short term guidance.
<unk>.
In the business, including on the milestones I think it's very difficult for us to predict and we don't have that kind of visibility as you alluded to.
And that has been consistent in the past where upon the achievement usually of the start of a phase one or submission of an IND.
We as well are just notified without a lot of advanced warning so, but we don't have any reason to believe.
While why we would be on a different trajectory than we have said in the past with the same kind of frequency we've seen in the past.
Okay. That's helpful color.
Next question with regards to the new partner.
New program starts.
Are you seeing any slowing there.
If im doing my math right you had five.
A new program starts in the second quarter.
Can you provide us any color.
Is that what you expected and then also have these five new starts can you give us some color on what type of partner in behind those new program starts are the emerging biotechs establish biotech or pharma or are all across the board.
Yes, so five is.
We have reported five previously.
Probably roughly a run rate that you saw in the previous year and as we mentioned over the last 12 months. We've put about 18. So it's roughly in line with that and what we would expect in terms of the makeup of the partners behind them, It's a mix a mix of.
Partners, we've signed with multi target deals who are calling their their program and then it normally takes some time before we actually registered those programs that as a start and then.
Contracts that we've signed maybe more recently and so more recent deals in the past that two of the more recent deals. We've we sign of course, one was with Abbvie in the in the latter half of last year, and then with our <unk> earlier earlier this year.
So it's roughly a similar mix as it has been in the past I don't think we've noticed any particular shift one way or the other between different customer types.
Okay. That's helpful color and then if I could sneak one last one and one last one in real quick brokerage license litigation and as the U S. PTO denied Berkeley lights rehearing request on your patents does that mean, it's put to bed or can they still appeal. Thanks, so much for the questions.
This is Carl here. So I believe there has been an appeal.
But at this point.
We have successfully defended the patents so so we have.
Validation that the patents are in place and valid and we are looking to move forward to litigation.
Beyond that I would pass it off to train on our legal counsel.
Okay. Thank you.
Our next question is with Stephen Willey with Stifel. Your line is now open.
Yes. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question I guess, maybe just.
Follow up on on the last question and I know that you guys have kind of prioritized.
Some of the.
More wholly owned pre partnered programs Youre doing more work you are adding more value to each program, but I guess when I just look at the last six months or so.
I think three incremental programs.
Programs under contract as we said before five incremental partner program starts and then.
One incremental discovery harder over the last couple of quarters. So I guess, when we think about the.
The base business in terms of how the partnered programs look over the last six months, how should be think about extrapolating that out to the next six or 12.
Sure Carl Steve here.
Sure Steve Carl here.
So great question.
Yeah.
So first of all it's been some time ago and it was 18 months ago or more.
Where we signaled and I have been consistently signaling that in the partnership business.
We are really emphasizing perceived value and quality over quantity of deals.
The reason for that of course is that our business is in working on programs that actually make it through the gauntlet and become drugs.
So it matters for us how many of the winners we work on not how many total program to work on over time.
The other thing.
Is that in the business development.
We have been looking to build relationships with companies and find opportunities, where our technology can really move the needle.
And where we can do more work so on both of those fronts. We have been very selective about who we work with and we have been.
We have been turning away opportunities, where we don't think that the investment of time or capital is warranted as compared to other allocations of that time and capital, which would be on building the platform advancing technology or advancing pre partnered programs. So that has been the way we're running the business now that said we.
We just had a recent review of the pipeline.
I can say that the quality and also even the quantity of deals that are moving forward.
Is as good if not better than I've ever seen it always takes time to close these but we feel really good about where we are.
The other thing that I think is happening and I've been asked this before.
And I feel like we're starting to see a trend is that.
There is a macroeconomic factor in play here and so I think we're seeing that there are fewer companies that are being started.
Seeing that partners.
That we have worked with in the past are starting to prioritize the programs that they already have and that's all part of the cycle and moving through and what people are trying to make sure that they're they're focusing their limited resources on the programs that they have now for US we're looking to work with the very best companies Theyre getting funded.
We're looking to work on the highest.
Quality and priority programs within their portfolio and.
And so I think we're in great shape, there and also our business allows some of the smaller companies or even bigger companies to execute on.
On more R&D in a way that is very capital efficient as opposed to large upfront fees or having to build the platforms themselves and so from that perspective, I think we are offering is even more attractive than it has ever been.
So to sum it up I think there is there is a macro thing that's happening we're going to see that we're running a long term business and theres going to be ups and downs.
But in terms of where we are applying our resources and our perception of value creation from the work.
I don't think that we've ever been better and we feel like Mike.
This will turn again and when it does then we may we may shift to doing doing more deals as we find more things we want to engage with.
Okay, Great that's very helpful color. Thanks.
Our next question is from Malcolm Hoffman with BMO. Your line is now open.
Hey, guys, knocking bond private senior men.
So I wanted to ask I know you said you are focusing on the quality of partners rather than the number I was just curious to see if you could maybe quantify the number of interactions you're having with potential partners that you ultimately don't agree to pursue.
Are there significantly more potential partners, reaching out you don't agree to move forward with our most interactions.
To proceed to a partnership.
Yes.
Don't think I'd be able to provide numbers in terms of the funnel but.
The reality is that we filter out far more opportunities that we seriously engaging.
And there is quite a quite a stringent filter at the very beginning.
As a as a concrete example, and related to the question on the TCE platform before we have had multiple opportunities to create partnerships around access to the CD three panel and to the Biospecifics.
And in numerous cases, we've walked away from those.
We believe that by taking it further we can generate more value from that platform then than where we are today.
And that's that's a decision that reflects our commitment to make sure. We're doing things that drive long term value and not just trying to do deals to put up numbers in the quarter. That's the way we're going to run the business.
I appreciate it thanks guys.
Okay.
Our next question is from Puneet <unk> with SBB. Your line is now open.
Hi, you have Michael on for Puneet. Thank you for taking my question I was wondering if you could get a bit more detail about the macro headwinds we are particularly interested in any color you can provide in China I'm not sure. If you have much interaction there, but I'm curious if you have any thoughts on the sentiment there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes. Thanks.
Yes.
No. We don't have any partnerships at the moment that are in China, and so we don't see any negative headwind from.
From that.
I don't know if that sufficiently answers your question.
Yes, none other than they.
Thanks for that.
And then.
A quick question regarding the new facility.
Putting out with the Canadian government. So you mentioned that as part of that build out you'll be taking some partner program.
Two phase one I'm just curious.
Kicking out doing clinical development, all the way to phase one if thats something thats going to be purely for pre partner there does tend to be extended out to like co development or your partner program.
Okay.
Yes, great question.
The funding that we have with this this this overall project that Carl had mentioned in his prepared remarks.
Involves taking a certain number of programs from target all the way through to the clinic and including a phase one, but our GMP manufacturing facility is not exclusively going to be used for just those pre partnered programs. It may also be available and we expect it to be used for co development programs and even in some cases four partner initiated.
Or partnership straight partnership deals.
Got it thank you very much.
Our next question is from Gaurav <unk> with <unk>. Your line is now open.
Hey, guys doesn't go on just two questions for me.
Probably speaking how should we think about your current capacity or bandwidth for pre partnered programs starts in discovery.
In addition, a partnered program starts prior to the facility expansion.
Hey, Gaurav Carl here, sorry, I am not sure I quite understood. The question could you maybe rephrase.
So ultimately I think you've got it.
Basically.
Okay.
Yes, just <unk>.
Pasty constraints is that something you're thinking about when strategically considering.
Adding into a new program start just trying to think if you actually have the physical bandwidth.
So let's say.
You don't have 12 active.
Graham starts for example.
Alright.
Oh, yeah sure so.
First like at any given time, we may have anywhere from a dozen to 25 active programs in flight at various stages. So we certainly have that capacity in place and in fact.
We have never been in a position, where we've entered a partnership or close the deal or had a partner call a program, where we were capacity limited and werent able to execute on that.
So we scale up.
We pull levers to make sure that capacity is available to always be able to execute now at.
At any given size and we built a lot of efficiency in a lot of capabilities over the last couple of years. There is some overall.
Capacity of work and resources that can be allocated.
And what we're doing is making sure that we're bringing that to bear on the most valuable ideas that are out there as well as on the platform development.
So there is an opportunity to throttle up and down on partner initiated and pre partnered programs depending on how we see the mix at a given time.
Yes.
I would just add to that.
We continue to also see in our R&D expenses about a third of the R&D expenditures are on program execution for our partners and about two thirds still on platinum platform development, including the work on pre partnered programs and.
As you've noted over the number of years, we can have continued to invest and execute on our plan to build out the capacity and build out the scale of the company I mean over the last few years, we've grown from about 150 employees to now over 600 employees recruiting top talent and the CMC and GMP.
To complete that.
Vertical integration rates through to be able to to be able to produce drug product and building out all of this lab.
<unk> space in lab and office space. So.
It's a significant investment and we pride ourselves on the execution there.
Bringing us executing on dozens of different programs over that period of time and all of that while increasing our available liquidity and capital that we have.
Is I think really speaks to the strong execution and as Karl mentioned, we we have never been in a position where our partner has called the program and we have not been able to initiate that program with some speed.
Yeah.
Got it that was helpful. And then a quick follow up are there any updates on development regarding the third generation COVID-19 antibody.
As I've mentioned in the past is that work being put on ice there should we expect updates from this program in the near future.
Okay.
Great question, we haven't talked about that for a while.
Yes, we are still actively engaged with Lilly.
I believe we have.
Molecules in hand that would be an effective solution and.
At least by my understanding our toe to toe if not.
If not superior to other ones that I've seen out in the space. The Big question right now is about the path in clinical development and right.
Right now theres not certainty on that so.
If it happens we're ready to step up I believe that's also true of our partners at Lilly.
And we view it right now as upside on the business.
Yes.
Great guys. Thanks.
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There are no more questions. So I'll pass the call back over to the management team for closing remarks.
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Thanks, everyone for joining us today, we remain excited about <unk> future and are excited about the progress thats been made and we look forward to speaking with you on future calls.
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