Q2 2023 Exxon Mobil Corp Earnings Call
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Good day everyone and welcome to this ExxonMobil Corporation second quarter 2023 earnings call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time I'd like to turn the call over to the Vice President of Investor Relations, Mrs. Jennifer Driscoll. Please go ahead, ma'am. Go ahead, ma'am.
Good morning, everyone. Welcome to ExxonMobil's second quarter 2023 earnings call. I'm Jennifer Driscoll, Vice President Investor Relations. I'm joined by Darren Woods, Chairman and CEO , and Kathy Michaels, Senior Vice President and CFO .
Our slides, script, and earnings release are available in the investor section of our website.
In a moment, Darren will provide opening comments. Then we'll take your questions.
In conjunction with our recent announcement to acquire Dunbury and related materials in this presentation, we've included additional information on slide 2.
During the presentation, we will make forward-looking comments. These are subject to risks and uncertainties. Please read our cautionary statement on slide 3. You may find more information on the risks and uncertainties that apply to any forward-looking statements in our SCC filings on our website. Please note that we have supplemental information at the end of our slides.
Now let me turn it over to Darren. Good morning, thanks for joining us today. I'm pleased to be conducting our earnings call from our Houston campus.
As of July 1st, our corporate headquarters is now located at the campus.
alongside the senior managers of our businesses and centralized organizations.
This is the first time in the company's history that the senior leadership team of the corporation is located on one site.
and represents a critical step in continuing the transformation of our business.
enabling us to improve collaboration and alignment, and further leverage synergies across our integrated businesses.
The ongoing efforts to structurally improve our company and drive sustained, industry-leading performance was clearly demonstrated in our second quarter results.
We delivered earnings of almost $8 billion, two times higher than what we earned in the second quarter of 2018 under comparable industry commodity prices.
That doubling of earnings reflects our work in the intervening years to reshape our portfolio of businesses.
invest in advanced projects, and drive a higher level of efficiency and effectiveness in everything we do.
With these results, I'd like to take a moment to recognize our people.
Starting with all those that made the move to Houston.
I'm sure you know moves like this are not easy.
and that many personal sacrifices are made.
I'm very thankful for all who did this.
Their willingness to disrupt their lives for the benefit of our company is a testament to the dedication of our people, whose commitment and hard work underpin all the improvements we are making.
I hope our shareholders take comfort in this one small example of our people's commitment to the company.
and have confidence in the resolve to further strengthen our position as an industry leader in all that we do.
Our achievements this quarter also demonstrate the progress we're making in solving the AND equation.
being the world's need for energy and essential products, and reducing emissions, both our own and others.
In the permit, we set another production record.
Remain on track for an overall growth and production of 10% this year.
As I said last quarter, our growth won't be linear as we execute our development plans that balance and optimize capital efficiency, resource recovery, and production rates.
Our priority will remain on driving value, not volumes.
In Guyana, we achieved a record quarterly gross production rate of 380,000 barrels per day.
Our team in Guyana continues to deliver excellent operating, environmental, and safety results while optimizing and growing production.
In fact, we see the potential to increase the combined gross capacity of these two FPSOs to above 400,000 barrels a day with further de-bottle mixing.
which is nearly 20% increase above the investment basis.
A testament to the ingenuity of our people.
In the Gulf Coast, we continue to properly grow our business.
In the second quarter, we achieved mechanical completion of the Baytown chemical expansion.
The project grows volume and improves mix with 750,000 tons per annum of additional performance chemical products.
The Baytown expansion is the final product solutions component of the Growing the Gulf initiative announced in 2017.
If you recall, the initiative committed to investments of $20 billion over 10 years,
To capitalize on the U.S.'s advantage resources, economic growth, and strong regional support for our businesses and the jobs we create.
11 of the 13 projects are up and running.
The Baytown expansion, after product qualifications, should begin contributing by the fourth quarter.
In Golden Pass, the last of our Growing the Gulf projects should have its first trainup at the back end of 2024.
The Growing the Gulf Initiative is another example of executing our strategy. Using an advantaged high value growth.
and delivering on our commitments.
Improving the earnings power of our businesses also requires divestments.
In the second quarter, we completed the divestment of the Billings Refinery.
Including this sale, cash proceeds from divestments of non-strategic assets have totaled roughly $2 billion year-to-date.
In advancing our efforts to better leverage corporate scale integration, we established three new centralized organizations in the quarter, consolidating activities previously embedded in each of our businesses.
Global Business Solutions.
ExxonMobil supply chain and global trading.
They're all off to a good start and have clear lines of sight to improve performance and lower cost.
Our low-carbon solutions business continues to make progress in building an advantaged, low-cost, high-return business in capturing, transporting, and storing carbon.
We announced the CO2 optic agreement with Nucor, one of North America's largest steel producers.
And, we signed an agreement to acquire Denberry, which will provide ExxonMobil with the largest owned and operated network of CO2 pipelines in the United States.
Combining Denver's assets and experience with our capabilities will significantly accelerate and expand our ability to profitably help customers reduce their emissions.
and allow ExxonMobil to play an even greater role in a thoughtful energy transition.
It significantly enhances our competitive position and offers a compelling customer proposition to economically reduce emissions and harder to carbonize heavy industries.
which today have limited practical options.
Of Dinberry's 1,300 miles of CO2 pipeline, roughly 70 percent are in the Gulf Coast states of Louisiana, Texas, and Mississippi.
one of the largest U.S. markets for CO2 reduction and home to some of ExxonMobil's largest integrated refining and chemical sites.
and nine other 10 strategically located CO2 storage sites are also in this region.
We believe that transaction synergies will drive strong growth and returns.
A cost-efficient transportation and storage system accelerates CCS deployment for both ExxonMobil and our third-party customers.
It supports multiple low-carbon value chains including CCS, hydrogen, ammonia, and biofuels.
Ultimately, we see an opportunity to create a CCS business with the capacity to reduce emissions across the Gulf Coast to a hundred million tons per year.
This transaction will help us do that at a lower cost and faster pace.
In fact, we see the potential for a third of the opportunity being actionable in the near term.
which takes us to our customers.
Our latest octake agreement extends our CCS customer base beyond industrial gas and fertilizers and to steel.
This project will tie into the same CO2 transportation and storage infrastructure we used to serve CF Industries, located just 10 miles from Nucor.
Focusing on our efforts and investments in areas with concentrated sources of emissions allows us to capture the benefits of scale, reduce our spend per ton of CO2 captured,
and improve returns. Our work with Nucor supports Louisiana's goal of reaching net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.
And it increases the total amount of CO2 we've agreed to transport and store for customers to 5 million metric tons per year.
equivalent to replacing two million cars with EVs.
roughly the same number of electric vehicles on the road in the United States today.
With the planned inventory acquisition, potential reduction could be up to 20 times that.
As demonstrated by these new developments, we're continuing to make significant progress in our plans to lead industry in helping society reduce emissions.
A major component of our improved earnings is the structural cost savings that we've achieved, currently at $8.3 billion.
We remain on track to reach our target of $9 billion in savings by the end of this year.
As we develop plans for future years, we're committed to finding additional savings.
Cash flow from operations totaled $9.4 billion in the quarter, or $13 billion, excluding the change in working capital.
Our year-to-date production of 3.7 million oil equivalent barrels per day is on track with the full year guidance we shared last year as part of our corporate plan review.
CapEx investments total $12.5 billion a year to date, also in line with our full year guidance.
And, consistent with our capital allocation philosophy, we continue to share our success with shareholders.
distributing $8 billion in cash during the quarter, including $4.3 billion in share repurchases,
and $3.7 billion in dividends.
Before we go to Q&A, I'll leave you with a few key takeaways from the quarter.
First, our work to structurally improve earnings power is paying off.
demonstrated this quarter as we doubled earnings versus a comparable price environment in the second quarter of 2018.
trade this quarter as we doubled earnings versus a comparable price environment in the second quarter of 2018. Are reorganizations?
Aggressive investments in advantage projects and significant reductions in cost are driving value and improving our competitive position.
We've made great progress and have a clear line of sight to much more.
Back after this year alone, we expect to bring on 2 advantage projects.
Baytown Performance Chemicals
and the Payara FPSO in Guyana.
Further growing archipacity generate cantonry leading earnings.
The company's ongoing business transformation is giving the organization a better view of end-to-end value creation.
and focusing us on the highest value opportunities.
Today, we have better position than ever to realize the value of our scale and the synergies from improving the integration of our businesses.
for the first time in our history.
We have a corporate technology, projects, trading, supply chain, and business solutions organization.
allowing us to apply the best solutions and talent to our biggest opportunities.
and importantly,
We are developing the most talented people in the industry, providing unrivaled opportunities to meet some of society's greatest challenges.
The work is delivering exceptional results.
driving industry-leading returns on investments and growth in earnings and cash flow.
This in turn allows us to distribute cash to shareholders through share repurchases in a sustained competitive and growing dividend.
while maintaining investments in industry advantage projects, including investments in our low carbon solutions business.
By leveraging the advantages developed in our traditional businesses,
We are laying the foundation for a world-scale, competitively advantaged, low-carbon business with industry-leading returns.
Planned acquisition of Danbury is a step in that direction.
improving our decarbonization proposition for customers, while generating attractive returns.
In summary, we're pleased with the quarter, the progress it represents, and the improved earnings power of the company. We're confident that we have the right strategy, with the right leadership, and best people to effectively execute it, delivering sustained growth and shareholder value. With that, let me turn it back to Jennifer.
We'll now begin our Q&A session. Please note that we continue to request that analysts ask a single question as a courtesy to the other analysts. However, please remain on the line in case we need any clarifying questions. And with that operator, please open the line for our first question.
Thank you, Mrs. Driscoll. The question and answer session will be conducted electronically. If you'd like to ask a question, please do so by pressing the star key followed by the digit one on your touchtone telephone.
And we'll go first to Doug Leggett with Bank from America.
Thank you, good morning everyone. Darren, I wonder if I could pick up on the cost-saving target. And I guess my question is, post-Denbury, and given that we're already halfway through 2023 and Illinois starting at $30 million this year, and this year we are back up $4. This year we are $ guests $ mammals $
Where does that $9 billion cost saving target go through the end of the plan period through 2027?
It goes up, Doug, in short. I think as you know, and we've been talking about the reorganizations that we've been executing over the years.
with some of them just recently executed, puts us in a position to really capture a lot of efficiencies across.
the whole of the enterprise. This year as we develop our corporate plans, obviously one of the objectives of these new organizations is to take stock of what they've got in their portfolio and identify the opportunities to further capture the benefits of scale and the synergies that exist between.
the integrated business and what for the first time represents an opportunity to actually manage processes across these integrated businesses. So I think we've got an opportunity set to drive that cost reduction even further as we head out further than the planned horizon. And my expectation is
When we come back at the end of the year after we've developed the plans, reviewed them with the board, and then share them with all of you, we'll provide some perspective on what that opportunity looks like going forward.
Would you care to offer an order of magnitude, Don?
You know, Doug, I tell you to go back to the investor day materials from March of 2022. We had some bridges in it where we kind of laid out earnings and how much structural cost savings were driving earnings improvement relative to volume and mix.
And I think if you just look at the size of those bars, you'll get a rough order of magnitude. And then going forward, but I'll leave it there. Thanks.
You bet. Thank you, Doug.
We'll go next to Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs.
Good morning, Darren, you've been clear that you think that there's value to be had potentially in both low carbon and the.
and Dan very well into the former of those two. I'd be curious on your perspective on whether, on the M&A markets right now, and how are you thinking about approaching opportunistic value creation for that?
Good morning, Neil. I would say that our perspective on that whole space, and I know it's one that's of great interest and we've talked about it seems like for a number of successive quarters, hasn't really changed quite frankly. I think what we are holding ourselves to and evaluating opportunities is to approach some of the more renowned scyt overpowered understanding about the BEATthese topics at all.
in that space is the ability to create unique value, unique shareholder value. And so the opportunities have to be bigger than what ExxonMobil or any potential acquisition could do independent of one another. So I think you've heard us say that one plus one has to equal three here.
That's what we are, how we're thinking about that space. You know, obviously from the very beginning.
Back in 2018 when we started talking about better leveraging our key competitive advantages, one of the drives to do that is to open up value opportunities that basically others can't achieve and as I've made, try to make clear in this quarter's prepared remarks and in previous quarters, we're making great progress.
opportunities with other companies. And so we're continuing to look for that, but we're not going to compromise.
our expectation of generating returns and growing value for the shareholder. So I think Kathy's said many times in the past we're pretty picky acquirers. I don't see us changing that position.
Thanks, there.
Good bet, Neil. Welcome to the next video, Deven McArmond with Morgan Stanley .
Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question.
Good morning. So, I wanted to ask about the Permian. You've had strong results so far this year and in the slides you had some interesting charts and some of the advantages you see reverse peers and how you develop the asset. So, I'm wondering if we could dive into a little bit more detail on that. When you think about some of the specific.
Drivers that allow you to get such better MPV versus other cube development in the base. And what are those in your view? And as part of that, could you address the resource recovery trends you're seeing and the improvement there and any room for further upside on that?
Yeah, sure. I guess maybe start by going back to the approach we outlined in the 2018-2019 timeframe where we said, you know, XO-Mobile can bring a different game to the unconventional space and really bring to bear and leverage the capabilities that we have versus many others who are competing in that space. For more information on XO-Mobile, visit xo-mobile.com
production. That wasn't a particularly well-received approach back in 2018-19 timeframe, but I think with time it's demonstrated its value and it's actually manifesting itself in the results that you see today, which is we're focused on making sure that as we develop the resources and all the benches in that resources.
particularly the ones that are connected, that we do that in an optimum way that develops and maximizes the recovery versus initial production rates. And so that's really important, that cube development. We continue to evolve that. I think we've gotten to a stage now where we feel really good about how we're executing that development.
we focused on capital efficiency. And I would tell you today, we are setting records for the length of our lateral wells, which again, lowers the cost associated with accessing the resource. And importantly, as you drill longer wells.
it's critical that the productivity of each foot of that well remains constant. And so we've done a lot of work to make sure that
We've got those technologies deployed in the field. We've got some early results that are quite encouraging, but they aren't at the scale today to manifest themselves completely in our results. So I think all those things together continue to give us a lot of confidence that not only have we moved to the front of the pack and demonstrated industry leadership with what we've got today, that we see a lot of upside to that as we move forward. And I don't think we've reached the end of the optimization process yet.
Great, thanks Darren. You bet. We'll go next to Sam Margolin with Wolf Research.
Good morning. Thank you. Morning Sam. This question is about EOR. Hopefully you don't find it too far afield.
Because you are very more than.
Yeah.
They're kind of breaking up on us.
Sam, are you available? Operator, let's try another question and come back to Sam.
Okay, we'll go next to John Royal with JP Morgan.
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So just looking at your bridge for energy products and you have over two billion of negative margin, it's right in line with the number out of your AKs, so no surprises there, but definitely a bigger decline on a relative basis than we're seeing from your couple of peers that have reported so far.
Just looking for any additional color on the drivers of that margin decline. Maybe there's something to call out around regional mix or crude slates that are a bit more unique to Exxon.
Yeah, I wouldn't say there's anything unique. I mean, this is a straight flow through of just what the industry refining margin reduction is kind of flowing through. You know, we would see a much bigger reduction coming out of where we have a bigger footprint. So I would say even though...
The US tends to have better margins than the rest of the world. We obviously have a very big footprint in the US, and so just that footprint drives the bigger absolute number and absolute decline, but it's just a straight flow through from the change in industry margins. Yeah, the size of our refining business is much, much larger.
Appreciate it.
We'll go next to Roger Reed with Wells Fargo.
Yeah, hello, good morning.
Hello, good morning. Good morning, Roger. Good morning. Good morning.
I'd like to follow up on the chemicals margin. You made the comment on the opening about pricing where it was in 2018, but margins much better. That said, chemicals isn't quite back to the 2021 high point. Anything else you can offer on how the chemical outlook is?
kind of juxtapose what looks like an improving market for you, certainly better margins versus potentially a lot of new capacity into that area.
Yeah, sure, I'll give you a couple of perspectives on that and then see if Kathy has anything to add. I think
First of all, what I'd say is the work that we've done over the years to make sure that we've got a well-diversified feed slate for our chemical business continues to pay off, as particularly in these markets as things are shifting around and price spreads are moving, our organizations pretty adapted responding to
with China being in a COVID lockdown and recognizing the role that it has in chemicals demand. That was kind of the back half of last year. An impact, and as we've come into this year, I think a lot of expectations for China to pick up and with that, growth and demand in chemicals. We are seeing that starting to happen.
In fact, if you look at our sales and chemicals, the second quarter was stronger than the first quarter. So we are seeing that demand. Demand looks pretty reasonable, I would say. The challenge is, and you referenced it, is the amount of supply that has come on.
That's where I think our feedstock advantages and our footprint in the integration that we have with a number of refineries around the world actually positions us better. It'll take some time, is my expectation, for demand to take us out of the supply, the excess supply that we've got on the marketplace. I would just...
add that we've made a lot of investment in chemicals over the last five years, fairly significant investments. And one of the things that frankly I'm quite quite pleased with is if you look at all those chemical investments that we thought online, even in the depths.
of what is a pretty low bottomless cycle condition for our chemical business, all those brand new
projects are earning are earnings positive and cash positive which I think Really bodes well for when the market comes back up and we're at top of cycle so I feel good about how we position the business and
Frankly, we're doing exactly what we had hoped for, which is when you get into tough conditions that our business continues to outperform competition. And so it puts us in a good position that as markets tighten back up again and margins improve, we'll be in an even better position.
And I just add a couple quick stats to that. So relative to competition, again our geographic footprint is pretty advantaged. And so we're about 35% larger in North America than I'll call it rest of industry. And then the other thing I point out that gets to what Darren just said about some of the projects we've been implementing. Those projects help to support.
and improvement in our overall mix. And so this quarter we saw a 6% increase in performance chemical products, and those carry a higher margin. So those are some of the more systemic things that help to drive improvement relative to competitors.
Great, thank you. Follow-up question.
On the carbon capture side of the business
If we look, we've got global coal demand hitting a record in 23. Global oil demand is going to hit a record in 23 if it hasn't already. Just curious, Darren, is there...
When you were you've already laid out your strategy all that makes sense the Denbury acquisition certainly fits well in that Just curious if you're getting any additional sort of outside pressure to maybe accelerate something on this given that If you think about it from an energy transition standpoint, you know two or three years ago. Everybody was saying we would
world faces and frankly an incomplete solution said. I think unfortunately the focus, if you go back several years, and I would say the exclusive focus on wind, solar and EVs.
and the fact that other alternatives and other solutions that frankly at the time we were advocating for and in fact trying to develop internally
weren't considered or actually weren't actually accepted slowed society's progress and its emissions reductions and capturing. I think today there's this recognition that we need more solutions and that frankly the industry can bring those solutions to bear. At this stage of what is going to be a very complicated and expensive transition, we need as many solutions.
of the business that are very consistent with our capabilities and expertise and advantages, that's a, we're in the very early stages. Frankly, we're in the lead in that space. There aren't any other companies that have secured the kind of third party mission reduction opportunities that we have.
There aren't any parties out there that have got the scale of the investments that we're progressing and so I think generally people recognize that we're delivering on our ambition to lead the industry and more than anything else we're supportive. Generally there's a desire to make things go faster.
And frankly, that's a function of the opportunity set. And if you think about the IRA and the role that it plays, that legislation hasn't even been translated into regulations yet.
and that's going to be a critical step. And I think there are many governments around the world who are working on appropriate legislation to incentivize and create a carbon, a market for carbon. That hasn't come to be yet. So we're very early in this process and there are a number of players in here who have a role to deliver. We feel like we're delivering on our part, but there are other elements that have to come together for this to be successful. And then ultimately, we're going to be able to do that.
We're going to need advances in technology to keep driving that cost down so that we can get to more and more dilute streams of CO2. We're doing a lot of work in that space. Frankly, again, I think our pipeline of opportunities, our technology pipeline, is going to be a need line.
I feel pretty good about it. I hope to in the next several years to hopefully commercialize some technologies that further reduce the cost of emissions reduction.
I think early, a lot of work going on. I think we're making a lot of good progress. We feel good about the role that we're playing and the leadership position that we have.
Great, thank you.
We'll go next to Sam Margolin with Wolf Research.
Hello, is that better, Samwise? That is better. That's better, Sam. Welcome back. I'm okay.
So this question is about EOR as it pertains to Denberry. I think there's some optimism that EOR barrels might be credited with carbon attributes because it varies more CO2 than the associated emissions of the oil. So maybe that's option value, but I was just wondering where you stand on that.
Topic and if it was at all a factor, you know, as you look at different asset classes and saw that E. O. R. was was available.
Yeah, so I would say obviously that's the core business today at Denbury and had facilitated the infrastructure that they have in place. That frankly for us... helped inspire us, but what I wanted to share with you was that we are working on the M 375
was not a key driver, strategic driver of the opportunity. I think EOR certainly in the short term can play a role, but if you think about the broader opportunity, it's really around carbon capture storage, sequestration and...
keeping the carbon under the ground. So that's the longer term play for us. I mean, as I just commented here about...
the challenges with the regulation and the translation of the IRA into regulation. You know, we've got a class six well permitting that's going to be required for sequestration. That's a fairly slow progress to date. So there's a lot of work that has to go into putting these pieces together so that we're successful. I see EOR as providing a lot of optionality in the short term that as we're bringing on carbon...
about it certainly not a strategic thrust for us as a company.
Thank you so much.
Understood Thank you so much. You bet. Thank you.
Next to Steven Richardson with Evercore ISI.
Good morning, I was wondering if we could dig in a little bit on the, the bottle necking opportunity. You talked about Diana clearly in the 20% above nameplate is. Or above design is pretty significant Darren. Could you drill in a little bit on. You know, what you're seeing here is that changes to the subsurface is it changes in a kid is it up time?
Kind of scale that for us and maybe just, I mean, there's really significant benefits if you roll it forward on a couple of the other projects that you have in the queue. So maybe just talk about how it's changing your view of of the future opportunities. Thank you.
Yeah sure, thanks for the question. That's something that frankly the organization has spent decades.
kind of work and I'll start by just I bucket it in three distinct buckets first it comes starts with the design and
build out of the project itself. And so having a project's organization with the capability that we've built and strengthened here over the last several years, we end up with facilities that have the right design and are built the right way so that we've got a really good platform to...
You know, over the years, a lot of our facilities, and I think this project organization even extends that that capability with the skills that they bring to the project development and the build out. And then I'd say the second bucket is our operations organization and the focus that they put on maximizing.
utilization and production and I think you know the mindset in the company is once you've got steel in the ground you've got this capital the operations job is to run it reliably run it safely run it in an environmentally responsible way but at the same time maximize the value of that steel in the ground and they've done a tremendous job of that and it's you know it's not one big thing it's a lot of
We've taken the step to consolidate all of our technology organizations and move from what was a business-oriented construct to a capabilities construct. So we've got our best people brought together, working on our biggest opportunities. It's really driving innovation and creating a better world.
My expectation is, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, that we're going to see the first two FPSOs, and then we're going to see the first two FPSOs.
get above 400,000 barrels a day as we continue to optimize and we'll do that in a very safe and environmentally responsible way. My expectation is when the third boat comes on with PYAR, we'll see similar levels of improvement there. And frankly, the expectation that we have for ourselves is that as we go forward and continue to build these projects, we'll continue to find the same.
Good morning
A question maybe on back on the upstream, I mean, even given the pricing environment. Upstream performance that we've seen for the quarter, not just for you, but for other peers that reported this this week. Um, I've been a little weaker than expected with much of that, seemingly driven by the global gas environment. Um, can you talk about.
drivers or headwinds that you maybe saw during the quarter on pricing relative to headline markers, maybe headwinds in trading or any other potential drivers there and how those might evolve over the remainder of this year.
I'll let Kathy maybe dive into a little more detail. I would just say with respect to pricing and the impact on the business, actually, our quarter came in pretty much in line with what we had expected. If you looked at the AK that we put out and our best attempt to,
Model the impact just from the market environment. You know we Pretty rigorous and making sure that when we put an AK out that it's really focused on Discrete planned events, but but much more importantly on what the market impact has been to the business quarter on quarter And so I think that kind of laid out pretty consistently with with what we expected
Obviously, gas prices were down, but I think refining margins are down a bit, but still in very healthy territory.
If you look at the fundamentals quite frankly as we head into the back half of the year I think you know as demand picks up. We're going to see
Kathy, anything to add to that? Yeah, I'll mention a couple of other things to you. As a result of some of the divestments we've done over the past year, if you look at our GAAS portfolio, we're now about 45% LNG, so a little bit more tip to LNG. If you just look at kind of impact of pricing across our GAAS portfolio and results, it's
I mean Henry Hub was down about 40%, TTF was down almost 50%. And the last thing I'd say is we always talk about the fact that on LNG, a lot of our contracts are tied to lagged oil prices. And so if you just look at where oil prices were in the fourth quarter, kind of relative to where they are more currently, I'm gonna call them down roughly $10.
barrel and so you know that pricing impact would have flowed through as well. And then the last thing that I will mention associated with our trading results is if you exclude mark-to-market so if you look in upstream mark-to-market with the positive for us in the quarter but if you if you exclude it mark-to-market
I would have then said our gas trading results were a little bit lighter this quarter. So kind of all of that packaged together I think gives you a pretty good understanding of our gas results.
Great, thank you.
We'll go next to Jason Gableman with TD Cowen.
Hey, morning.
I want to ask about another energy transition area that's been receiving some attention in the media in terms of some activity, which is lithium. Drilling and then refining and it seems like you're you're waiting a bit more into the space.
I'm wondering how you view that opportunity given your expertise in drilling and refining of materials in the ground and if that development in that space was contemplated at all.
in that $17 billion energy transition budget that you previously laid out. Thanks.
Sure, yeah, maybe I'll just come back to kind of the fundamentals of how we think about ExxonMobil's participation in the transition space. It comes back to the focus on leveraging the advantages that we have as a corporation where we believe we can add.
is that we believe we have an expertise and a unique capability in seeing if there's a fit for products or solutions that can help society decarbonize. Lithium and production of lithium from brine water is, if you think about what's required to do that, is really an extension of...
A lot of the current capabilities that we have in our upstream, it requires a good understanding of the subsurface, requires a good understanding of reservoir management, requires drilling and injections. I think the below surface things are very much in line with the skills and capabilities that we've built out over the decades in our upstream business.
the capability, the skill set that we have, the operating experience that we have, all lend themselves to that. And then of course there's the question of how does the market fundamentals look and supply and demand, and do we see a role for what we're doing there.
And frankly, we've been looking at that for quite some time. I'd say we're still early in evaluating the opportunity but we we believe that by again applying our
advantages in this space that we can bring on a much needed resource, lithium, one that's predicted to go short. We can bring it on at a much lower cost and I think importantly with much less environmental impact versus say the open mining that they're doing in other parts of the world. So this to us feels like a potential win-win-win opportunity when using our capability to make this a reality.
set and like what we're seeing so far.
Great, that's a really helpful comment. Thanks.
next to Josh Silverstein with UBS.
Thanks, good morning guys. The cash balance is still around $30 billion for about four quarters now. And Kathy, last quarter you mentioned that you were comfortable holding the larger balance because of the net positive spread in interest rates versus your debt cost. That spread is still there, so you're probably not in a rush to do anything. But just wondering if this is still the best use of cash versus deploying it into higher rate of return projects.Rockys.com
but just based on how the commodity price environment and margin environment ebbs and flows. So we think it's pretty critical to hang on to a really strong balance sheet because it gives us the flexibility that we need through the cycles. If you look overall at what we're doing from an investment perspective, I would say.
We're never trying to constrain the organization in terms of deploying good capital investment. And that's across our entire business. It includes our LCS business, obviously. The acquisition of Denberry will enable us to accelerate the growth of our carbon capture and sequestration business within…
LCS and we're excited about that opportunity and profitably growing that part of our business. So I think it's really important when we talk about capital deployment that we are not trying to constrain the company from new capital projects that can drive good returns for our shareholders and that's how we create I'd say the virtuous cycle.
of how we can then support competitive growing dividends that are sustainable over the long term and a more consistent share repurchase program. So I'd say we're really happy with our balance sheet. We intend to hang on to a higher cash balance than the company has done historically.
just to give us more flexibility as we think about how we manage the company over the long term and through the cycle. And just maybe to emphasize the point a third time that Kathy made, you know, the mandate to the businesses is find advantage projects that position us ahead of competition and deliver high returns, high value and
That's the mandate they've been given, and we will fund those opportunities as they come forward. I think what you see in terms of the
What limits the investment is the ability, those opportunities, to manifest those opportunities. And I think it's the challenge that we give our organization to only fund the things that we feel confident are robust to very low price environment, are well ahead of other companies, and tap into what I would say are the long-term fundamentals of the market.
I think as we find those things and the organization is very very focused on developing those opportunities set We'll fund them because that's how you generate long-term value for the corporation and our shareholders
Great. Thanks.
Good.
We'll go next to Nail Dingman with Truist Securities.
Morning, thanks for the time. My question is on OFS costs, just your thoughts both domestically and internationally for the remainder of the year and into 2024, how you're thinking about either inflation or de left.
Yeah, I mean the way that we're thinking about inflation and whether it's oil, field, services costs or other costs across the business, I'd say we've gotten to a point where we're actually starting to see inflation come off in certain cost categories. You know, if you think about
Some of the chemicals that we would use in unconventional things like sand, what we would call tubular goods, which would include piping and valves and those types of things, we're starting to see some deflationary pressure now. As it relates to things where labor is a high component of the cost, I would say we're not yet necessarily seeing that deflationary pressure coming through.
now throughout the business.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Welcome.
We'll go next to Paul Chang with Scotiabank.
Thank you. Good morning, guys. Good morning, Paul. Thank you. You're previously that have set a sort of target to expand 17 billion in the low-carbon business through 2027. Dan Barry said the acquisition is about 30 percent and you're also saying that you're seeing
a little bit of perspective on that. We, given the, we're just starting that business up, as you can imagine, very early in the opportunity set and progressing the opportunity set. I think Dan and his team in the low carbon solutions business have made tremendous progress in bringing those opportunities to bear and manifest in contracts with customers.
plant, and then we've got opportunities for low-carbon ammonia associated with that. So I think a pretty robust portfolio, and with the announcements of the deals that we've got to date, the commercial deals that we've struck with the announcement of Denvery, I think a lot of recognition and interest by outside potential.
required to do that. We're continuing that work. There's a lot in so as we continue to develop and make progress on these projects some of the capital becomes more discreet and we can see it a lot a lot clearer. Other other deals move out so I'd say right now
It's a portfolio approach. We're not changing the 17 billion dollars to date. Frankly, the Denberry acquisition, if that goes through, will allow us to pull back on some of the grassroots investments that we were making in logistics and substitute that with the assets that we brought in from Denberry. It's, I'd say, kind of an evolving space.
I think the thing to stay focused on, we're not going to compromise on our return criteria or the advantaged.
criteria that we're insisting on for the projects that we bring to bear. We have to be low-cost suppliers in this space, we have to be leveraging the advantages the corporation has, and we have to be generating good competitive returns. That's going to dictate the pace of the, how quickly that capex manifests itself and frankly the size of it. And as we go through this year's plan,
I know Dan and his team is very focused on based on a year having gone, they'll have a year under their belt of continuing to execute and drive this business. We'll develop more detailed plans and update that number. I don't know if Kathy, you have anything you want to add for Paul? Yeah, just the other thing I want to mention is, especially as it relates to the CCS business, what you're going to see over time is that we're building a backlog –
There's one in the industrial gas sector, one in the steel sector, one that makes ammonia that's used for fertilizer, right? And if you just think about what that does for society, those five million tons annually, that translates into the conversion of about two million cars from gas-powered vehicles to electric vehicles. That's about all the cars that are on the road in the United States today. And when we talk about the overall
quick question.
Of course. Yeah, thank you. Real quick, Darren, do you have a number you can share what is the production for Permian in the second quarter?
620 K. Thank you.
620 K oebda. Thank you. You bet Paul.
Looks like we have time for one more question. Our last question comes from Paul Sankey with Sankey Research.
Hi, good morning everyone. Just a follow up. Just a follow up actually, just looking at your volumes upstream, first of all. You mentioned that there was turnarounds and stuff, but I wondered if you could talk about...
the recovery especially in the light of the stronger Guyana volumes, you know the fact that your upstream volumes are down quite hard here, is that going to be a rapid recovery in Q3?
back towards what kind of levels would we expect for the rest of the year. Thanks.
Sure, Paul, I'll take that. If you think about the first quarter we were up pretty significantly, second quarter or down from that first quarter, but essentially on plan with respect to the full year production levels that we talked about.
at the back end of last year when we put our plan forward. And I would tell you that there's nothing that we're seeing today that changes that guidance that we gave last year, 3.7.
A million barrels a day of production and so I'd say we're on track with that. We're not seeing anything that makes us change our mind and obviously we're working real hard to...
do better than that, but I would say right now we feel like we're on track to meet the plan and meet the numbers that we shared earlier last year.
Can you say more about the down times that you had in Q2?
Yeah, I'll just mention, we had given a bit of guidance to divestment and schedule downtime, and that guidance was that we thought we'd see a reduction of about 1 10-K OEBD. If I said what the actuals were across both of those items, it was actually 120, and that's the sequential number, so we were down sequentially.
120 KOEVD as a result of divestment and the scheduled downtime. If you then just look at why was our overall production down a little bit more than that, it was really driven by two things. We've seen curtailments and obviously OPEC is cutting production and so we have an impact coming from that.
And then in terms of unscheduled downtime, we had a short strike in Nigeria that tipped up our unscheduled downtime. But again, I would go back to what Darren said. We had guided for the full year at about 3.7 million oil equivalent barrels a day. And if you looked at our year-to-date numbers, we're up about 15,000 barrels a day.
Beaumont I guess but is there anything else to add there to the strength?
Yeah, no, Beaumont is the main thing and then we obviously had a bit less maintenance kind of going on which helped our volumes as well. I'd mentioned that Beaumont was running at 90% utilization so again a really nice I think proof point and just the operational excellence across.
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