Q2 2023 Marcus & Millichap Inc Earnings Call
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Greetings and welcome to Marcus <unk>, Millichap second quarter 2023 earnings Conference call.
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Good morning, and welcome to Marcus <unk> Millichap second quarter 2023 earnings conference call with US today are president and Chief Executive Officer, <unk>, <unk>, Chief Financial Officer, Steve de Gennaro.
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On behalf of the entire Marcus <unk> Millichap team good morning, and welcome to our second quarter 2023 earnings call.
The widened bid ask spread and restricted lending environment severely hindered commercial real estate trading and financing volumes in the second quarter.
<unk> results for the quarter reflected this challenging market, which was marked by elevated transaction and lifting cancellations and frequent asset repricing due to the interest rate shock and economic uncertainty.
I also face an exceptionally tough comparison to the second quarter of 2022, which had outsized revenue growth of 39% and was the second highest revenue quarter in our history.
Revenue for the second quarter of 2023 came in at $163 million, which was lower by 59% year over year.
Adjusted EBITDA loss of $1 1 million was due to expenses related to investments made over the past several years and our sales force acquisitions proprietary technology development and expanded infrastructure.
Notwithstanding previous cost reductions and ongoing expense management, we believe playing offence. During this prolonged market disruption will create a competitive advantage for the company in the recovery and beyond.
Our strategy includes doubling down on client outreach supporting and retaining our sales force, adding experienced professionals and pursuing strategic acquisitions.
I'm proud to report that we made progress on all fronts during the second quarter.
Elevating internal communication best practices sharing and skills development.
These are hallmarks of Marcus Millichap is collaborative culture and have been extremely effective in previous downturns.
In addition to investments made in expanding the platform. We believe several developments will add value in the long term for example, the collaboration between ourselves and financing professionals has increased markedly as the difficult financing market is accentuating the knowledge and lender relationships of our loan.
Meters, our auction division created just 18 months ago by adding industry, leading specialist is becoming more integrated with our sales force.
Auctions provide an alternative channel for rapid marketing of certain assets and aging inventory.
Our financing and sales professionals are actively partnering with our loan sales division to advisers lenders special Servicers and government agencies on valuation and disposition of loan portfolios and assets.
Our ever expanding research content and media coverage is reaching a record number of investors and helping clients develop strategies and pursue opportunities.
Last but not least our technology advances are expanding how we connect with our clients on specific listings and leads.
These initiatives are fundamentally enhancing our leverage and execution, which will pay dividends far beyond the current disruption and recovery.
From a market standpoint, the fed's continued hawkish stance has intensified the disruption and price discovery.
<unk> for the lowest cap rate assets, particularly apartments have been the most impacted by the interest rate shock leading to a major drop in trading volumes.
Bank failures in the first quarter and exposure to distressed real estate has pushed many active lenders out of the market.
Sellers' price expectations have been misaligned with buyers still struggling with uncertainty and lower loan to values on top of the doubling of interest rates in the past year.
These converging forces manifested in a 54% drop in transactions and a 63% drop in sales volume in the overall marketplace. According to RCA.
This marks the fourth consecutive quarter of a pronounced industry wide decline in activity, reflecting the current dislocation broad nature.
And then my outperformed the broader market in brokerage transactions, which declined 47% in the quarter.
The company's brokerage sales volume decline of 62% was in line with the market.
But as mentioned earlier this is on a 47% year over year increase in our sales volume in the second quarter of 2022 and that should be kept into perspective.
Private client revenue for the quarter fell 54% the private client segment is still driven by many personal motivations to trade and has more available financing options. Nonetheless, a wide bid ask spread is also lowering volumes in smaller deals but to a much lesser extent.
Revenue from middle market, and larger transaction sales declined, 69% and 73% respectively as major private investors and institutions remained on the sidelines.
Do you have an extremely tight credit conditions revenue from financing fees was all 51%.
Yet, we transacted with 141 separate lenders in the quarter.
Illustrating the skill tenacity and access our financing team brings to investors and our own sales force.
Regardless of market conditions.
I want to highlight that despite all of these challenging factors the company closed over 1400 brokerage transactions and nearly 300 financings during the second quarter.
For the first half of the year, we've closed 2700 brokerage transactions and over 550 financings.
And then my continues to rank as the top brokerage company by transaction count.
This is the result of our client commitment and their hard work persistence and skill of our sales force and support teams.
On another positive note there is no shortage of capital or demand for appropriately priced commercial real estate assets.
In these cases, we're generating multiple offers for our clients from buyers using more equity and in some cases paying all cash to be in the right markets and fetch the right assets that fit their long term strategies.
We're also seeing short term financing solutions and structures to secure well priced assets with buyers, leaving themselves flexibility for future refinancing.
Office properties remained the outlier in price discovery, while improving fundamentals in retail over the past several years has fostered more buyer demand and ironically makes retail are highly desired asset class.
Looking forward the notion of a fed pivot to lowering interest rates in the near term has been taken off the table.
Despite major progress in reading and inflation there is still a long way to go to reach the fed's, 2% target.
This means recalibrating real estate values in light of higher interest rates will simply take more time to work through the marketplace.
Healthy property fundamentals with the exception of office and a shift in sentiment from a recession concerns to an expectation of an economic soft landing bode well for sustained buyer interest.
Although some distress sales are expected the fed and the FDIC you have specifically encouraged lenders to extend the maturing loans as much as possible to avoid write downs.
As buyers come to realize that a widespread price correction is unlikely and sellers become more realistic on pricing it real alignment in the marketplace will trigger.
A reversal in trading volume trends.
The clarity that will come when the fed declares the end of the tightening cycle should also foster more activity.
We cannot predict or control the timeline for the shift. However, we are laser focused on executing our own strategy in the meantime.
Core M. I this prolonged market disruption as an opportunity to help more investors SaaS portfolios and solve problems benefit from our market, making and value added services and leverage opportunities, we can uncover for them.
By partnering with us our clients will navigate this environment and we will gain more of their competence mindshare and eventually market share.
What are the key challenge is exacerbated by the market downturn is net hiring of new professionals.
The unusually strong job market and rising wages are greater factors today than in previous cycles in attracting recent college graduates and newer professionals from other sales industries.
At the same time, a challenging market is making it harder for our new trainees to break into the business.
As I've mentioned on past calls, we're committed to our organic hiring system and continue to push various candidate outreach initiatives.
Enhanced training and development and are adding corporate recruiters to return to positive net hiring.
In the meantime for many experienced professionals and EM is proving to be the ideal platform to enhance their careers.
We have demonstrated this through many such additions since the pandemic with positive mutual results and continued to build on this momentum I'm happy to announce the most recent addition of our market leading finance team in New York that will further elevate our capital markets capabilities.
We're also in active discussions with potential acquisition targets that we believe would bring strategic and market coverage advantages to M. I.
Our strong balance sheet. It forces the foundation to remain offensive, while continuing to return capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases.
We will continue to assess the highest and best use of capital as market conditions shift with an eye to increasing our acquisition target pipeline further as valuation expectations become more reasonable.
And with that I.
I'll turn the call over to Steve for additional insights on our results Steve.
Thank you Hassan as we look at this quarter's results, it's important to provide context, and a reminder of the market landscape a year ago in.
In the first half of last year Investor demand was fueled by still low interest rates and an urgency to transact ahead of further interest rate hikes.
In contrast, today's higher rate environment, resulting from the fed's aggressive actions over the past 15 months and severely restricted credit markets are impeding trading volumes.
Year over year comparisons are also skewed by the fact that Q2 2022 was the second highest revenue quarter in the company's history.
With that backdrop in mind, let's turn to the current year results.
Revenue for the quarter was $163 million compared with $396 million in the prior year quarter.
For the six months period revenue was $318 million versus $715 million last year.
On a segment basis.
Revenue from real estate brokerage commissions for the second quarter was $140 million and accounted for 86% of total revenue compared to $352 million last year, a decrease of 60% year over year.
The quarter represents total sales volume of $7.5 billion across 4300, 22 transactions, which is down 62% and 47% respectively.
For the six months year to date revenue from real estate brokerage commissions was $275 million and accounted for 87% of total revenue compared to $642 million last year, a decrease of 57% year over year.
Year to date total sales volume was $14 $7 billion across 20, 701 transactions down, 60% and 44% respectively.
Average transaction size during the second quarter was approximately $5 $3 million as compared to seven $4 million a year ago reflective of fewer larger transactions.
Within brokerage for the quarter, our core private client business contributed 69% of brokerage revenue or $96 million.
This compares to 59% of revenue last year.
For the six months period, the private client business contributed 68% of brokerage revenue or $187 million versus 58% last year.
Our middle market and larger transaction segments, which experienced outsized growth over the past couple of years together accounted for 28% of brokerage revenue or $39 million during the second quarter compared to 39% last year.
For the six months period, the middle market and larger transaction segments represented 29% of brokerage revenue were $79 million compared to 40% last year.
Once again these results reflect the fact that many institutional buyers are out of the market pending further clarity on rates and pricing.
Revenue in our financing segment, including M. M. C. C was $18 million in Q2 compared to $37 million last year in.
In the quarter, we closed 284 financing transactions totaling $1 $6 billion in volume compared to 697 transactions for what $4.5 billion in volume in the prior year.
Financing revenue for the six months was $34 million compared to $63 million last year.
Year to date. This represents 563 transactions totaling $3 $4 billion in volume compared to 217 transactions and $7 $2 billion in volume last year.
Other revenue comprised primarily of consulting and advisory fees, along with referral fees was $4 $6 million in the second quarter compared to $4 $5 million last year.
Year to date other revenue was $8 $5 million this year compared to $10 $6 million last year.
Moving onto expenses.
Total operating expenses for the second quarter with $174 million, 49% lower than last year.
Year to date total operating expenses were $344 million, 44% lower compared to the prior year.
Lower expenses were largely a result of lower revenue.
Cost of services was $101 million or 62, 1% of total revenue an improvement of 260 basis points over the second quarter last year consistent with lower revenue.
Year to date cost of services was $197 million or 61, 9% of total revenue.
An improvement of 140 basis points compared to last year.
SG&A during the quarter was $69 million, a decrease of 14% over the prior year.
For the six month period, SG&A was $141 million, a decrease of 9% compared to last year.
The decreases in SG&A reflect lower variable compensation tied to business performance as well as cost reductions implemented over the past six months.
This was partially offset by expenses related to talent acquisition and retention as well as new business development and client marketing support.
As we have discussed over the last few calls the combination of lower revenue with the fixed nature of certain expenses related to growing the sales force technology and infrastructure over the past few years impacts profitability.
For the second quarter, we recorded a net loss of $8 $7 million or 23 cents loss per share compared to net income of $42 $2 million or a dollar for earnings per share in the prior year.
For the six months period, the net loss was $14 $6 million or <unk> 37 cents loss per share compared to net income of $75 million or $1 85 earnings per share in the prior year.
For the quarter, adjusted EBITDA was negative $1 $1 million compared to a positive $62 $9 million in the prior year for.
For the first six months adjusted EBITDA was negative $8 $5 million compared to a positive $114 $8 million in the prior year.
The effective tax rate for the quarter reflects the change necessary to bring the year to date rate into alignment with the rate we expect for the full year.
The expected annual rate is sensitive to the amount of expenses that are nondeductible for tax purposes in relation to projected pre tax income for the full year and therefore can fluctuate.
Our current expectation of the full year tax rate is approximately 17%.
Moving to the balance sheet, we remain well capitalized with no debt and cash cash equivalents in marketable securities totaling $407 million.
While our cash balance decreased $24 million in the quarter that includes returning $27 million in capital to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share repurchases.
Continuing on the capital allocation theme earlier this week, our board declared a semiannual dividend of 25 cents per share to be paid on October six to shareholders of record as of September 15th.
And during the quarter, we repurchased nearly 539000 shares of common stock at an average price of $30 and 81 per share for a total of $16 $6 million.
Year to date. This brings total shares repurchased to nearly $1 1 million at an average price of $31 28 per share for a total of $34.4 million.
As of today, approximately $76 million remaining on our current repurchase authorization.
As we have done since expanding our capital allocation strategy 18 months ago I want to emphasize that our approach remains balanced including strategic acquisitions investments in technology recruitment of top talent and returning capital to shareholders.
Turning now to the near term outlook.
The fed is message that we'll continue to raise rates in response to stubbornly high inflation and a strong labor market.
Therefore rates are expected to remain higher for longer.
This coupled with the gap in price expectations and reduced credit availability means that recovery will take time to play out.
Given these conditions, we will continue to monitor our key metrics and stay vigilant and expense management.
Cost of services as a percentage of revenue for the third quarter should follow the usual pattern would be sequentially higher than the second quarter.
SG&A for the quarter should increase modestly from Q2 and be in line with the Q1 spend due to seasonal agent and client related events.
And as I mentioned previously the tax rate is currently expected to be in the 17% range.
Our primary focus continues to be proactively engaging with clients exploring strategic growth opportunities and driving operational excellence throughout the business.
Our ongoing investments in systems talent and market coverage are important steps for positioning ourselves for robust growth once the market conditions improve.
With that operator, we can now open up the call for Q&A.
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Great. Thanks, good morning out there.
Tom can you talk about the relative resiliency in transaction volume and different size segments. I guess do you find that the private client group is less sensitive to macroeconomic factors than larger institutional players or is it the opposite.
Hi, Brian there is sensitivity definitely across the full spectrum.
When it comes to interest rates the direction of the economy job growth and so on.
But as we've discussed many times before the private client group has.
Personal circumstances death divorce partnership break ups.
Adding to take profit from one investment in order to create more liquidity and take advantage of 10 31 exchange opportunities to trade out of one property into another.
As a kind of a reflection of the entrepreneurship of the private clients.
And so that just creates more transactional opportunity for us on smaller deals are more financeable and a difficult financing environment like we're facing right now.
So the decline in trading activity in.
And the $1 million to $10 million private client segment has been less pronounced than the larger transactions both in the marketplace and of course for us.
That doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't a bid ask spread there definitely is across the full spectrum and the uncertainty that the entire industry has faced related to the direction of interest rates and the economy.
Has impacted everybody up and down the spectrum.
So that's.
Way Theyre kind of view of the the attitudes among our private clients versus institutions, we're starting to see more of.
Interest in acquiring assets a lot by month private clients a lot of our private clients.
Our well capitalized and ready to respond to opportunities that come up if they're priced correctly and as I said in my comments, we're starting to see that price adjustment and more realism.
On the sell side.
Generate more activity, but.
But we have quite a ways to go before the bid ask spread really comes to life.
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Great that's really helpful color.
Obviously the jobs report came in this morning with some mixed results, but an unemployment rate. That's you know stubbornly low.
Can you talk a little bit more about how you're thinking about hiring and retention in this tight labor market and can you give us any thoughts on you know how we should think about your broker count moving forward.
Sure we are committed to our organic growth model that has worked so well for us for so many years.
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At the same time, we're taking additional actions to help those newer professionals that are onboard with Marcus and Millichap have a better chance of making it through the market.
Dislocation through more Mentorship more training and more management support because we know that if they really survive. If you will this type of a market environment as we experienced in 2008 2009 their skill sets and the relationships that they have.
Develop will really launch their careers, even more effectively frankly than a normal market. So we're very committed to that both on the defensive side of helping as many of our newer professionals make it through the downturn.
Which is where we are starting in terms of priority and at the same time are doing even more with a recent college graduates sales professionals from other industries.
To bridge this very unusual employment market, where we're competing against a lot of different industries with our base salaries and of course, the uncertainty around commercial.
Commercial real estate performance and the overblown media coverage in many ways around the stress on banks and commercial real estate being up.
And have a risk factor for the macro economy is making a lot of our candidates concerned about the industry. So our job and our managers job is to come back that at the local level with career nights with career fairs individual interactions with.
With candidates and to overcome it I don't expect the turnaround immediately but I know that over time as both the employment conditions change and all of these different initiatives that we're launching or have been launching.
Make a make a difference the results will begin to improve.
I should add Blaine on the experienced professional side of the equation, we continue to see great success both in the.
Testimonials and the case studies of those that have joined the company over the past three or four years and a very healthy pipeline of additional.
Experienced professionals on both the brokerage side and the financing side that we're actively speaking with right now.
Okay. That's helpful.
M&A continues to be a focus for investors can you talk a little bit more about any activity you guys might have on that front, whether you think pricing has adjusted enough to kind of reflect the higher rate environment and how likely do you think acquisitions are in the second half of this year.
Sure as I Messaged last time, our pipeline of targets began to increase.
And that includes some targets that we had had dialog with before that didn't come to fruition and we have resurrected some of those conversations and therefore I would say that the valuation expectations are beginning to improve but I would say that day too just like real estate prices.
Have a ways to go before they come into line with what we believe is fair valuation, especially because of the fact that you know.
When you look at the last three years as the benchmark outperformance in revenue production.
And earnings and so on we've had such a lumpy period with the pandemic and then the post pandemic and you have to look even beyond the last three years for assistant sustainability of revenue and earnings and retention of producers and all of those very key metrics in a way that we have to manage the company's risk going forward.
Sure.
So when you factor all that in and the sellers expectation that our underwriting should be based on their best 12 months ever that's where the gas comes in but we're really encouraged by a number of conversations we're having and.
You know I really do believe that a some good results will come out of our current evaluations and active dialogue and then let me ask Steve if he wants to add anything to the answer yes.
So blaine the only couple of comments I would add or emphasize.
It would be around the pipeline or the funnel, it's the largest that I've seen in three.
Three years is that I've now been here, so I'm encouraged by that.
As Tom said a number of.
The opportunities that are.
Maybe we're paused a over the last six to nine months potentially.
Potentially resurrected and these are opportunities certainly within our core brokerage and financing space, but where we're also poking around a little bit in <unk>.
Areas that are adjacent to.
Our core space.
That are still very much value add to our private client constituents and as it relates to the bid ask spread.
Similar comments.
That still exists.
But I would say that that spread is closing.
Okay good to hear.
Last one for me.
You might have alluded to this in your prepared remarks, but can you talk about the partnership with M and T that was established in 2021, and whether you guys have any way to quantify the benefit of that partnership or otherwise kind of comment on the production of that partnership relative to your initial expectations.
Sure Blayne, the overall market downturn has of course limited.
Volume that we would have.
Achieved with <unk> and agency lending in a normal market environment for sure, but having said that because the agencies have been active in the market and because we were able to leverage our partnership with <unk> to acquire a bring onboard the IP address financial group.
<unk>, which was the number one industry leader in agency production for major apartments are about a year and a half ago.
We have done more business with <unk>.
In the last six months that we have in the last year and a half or almost two years now since the partnership was put together and we have a very healthy pipeline that would also qualify as our top performing sub sector within our financing division because the agencies are still active and because we do have the.
<unk> partnership with MTN, the origination capacity that the island Draft group has brought to the firm they're also integrating very well with our IPA multifamily sales teams in a very targeted effort by management to.
To create a streamline way for them to really partner and bring a combined value proposition to our clients, bringing the investment sales research capabilities that we've always had but now really expanding that to include capital markets and.
And that includes a lot of advice and consulting as well as execution of actual financings because a lot of our mid market and larger clients.
Or frankly.
Trying to come up with solutions to maturing loans.
Bridge, the current financing environment.
To get through the next couple of years and position themselves for refinancing down the road when interest rates do come back down so having that capability actually has very beneficial at a strategic level because it puts us in front of the clients that we normally wouldn't have a reason to be in touch with.
Yeah.
Okay, great. Thanks, so much for all the time.
Thank you Blayne.
There are no further questions in the queue I'd like to hand, it back to management for closing remarks.
Thank you operator, and thank you everybody for joining our call. We look forward to seeing many of you on the road.
And I look forward to our next earnings call for the third quarter call. This is a journey.
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