Q2 2023 IPG Photonics Corporation Earnings Call

Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to IPG Photonics second quarter 2023 conference call. Today's call is being recorded and webcast. At this time I'd like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Eugene Federoff, IPG's Senior Director Investor Relations for introductions.

Speaker 1: Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2: are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that would cause the company's actual result to differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in IPG's Photonics.

Speaker 2: Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2022, and other reports on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Copies of these filings may be updated by visiting the investors' section of IPG's website or by contacting the company directly.

Speaker 2: You may also find copies on the SEC's website. Any forward-looking statements made on this call are the company's expectations or predictions as of today, August 1, 2023 only, and the company assumes no obligation to publicly release any updates or revisions to any such statements.

Speaker 2: For additional details on our reported results, please refer to the earnings press release, earnings call presentation, and the financial data workbook posted on the investors relations site.

Speaker 2: We will post these prepared remarks on our Industrial Relations website following the completion of this call.

Speaker 2: With that, I'll now turn the call over to Eugene Shcherbakov.

Speaker 2: Good morning everyone. I am pleased with our performance this quarter. Second quarter revenue came and it is the point of our guidance range. Despite of increased microeconomic uncertainty, this resulted in project delays and impacted sales and outlook in industrial markets across many geographies.

Speaker 2: We reported another quarter of solid revenue growth in welding and cleaning applications.

Speaker 2: that were driven by strong sales and immobility and handheld welding solutions.

Speaker 2: Additionally, revenue improved in 3D printing and solar cell manufacturing applications. As investment in this market increased, the market increased.

Speaker 2: Sales in flat sheet cutting applications declined year over year, mostly due to economic uncertainty and increased competition in China.

Speaker 2: and continued to negatively impact on our results. However, cutting sales were up sequentially in China, North America, and Japan.

Speaker 2: Immersion growth product accounting for 41% of our total sales in second quarter.

Speaker 2: We saw continued growth in AMD lasers, light weld, green and ultrafast lasers, as well as beam delivery. But sales declined in medical and advanced applications as well as in laser-based systems and high-power power lasers.

Speaker 2: We have shipped our first 50kW AMB laser during the quarter and continue to invest in the international sales platforms for light weld.

Speaker 2: As we said on our first quarter conference call, our medical business was impacted by a large customer working through the inventory.

Speaker 2: We should use sales as a second quote.

Speaker 2: We expect medical cells to return to a more normal level in the third quarter and continue to focus on additional growth opportunities.

Speaker 2: medical cells to return to a more normal level in the third quarter and continue to focus on additional growth opportunities in the medical market.

Speaker 2: Despite a challenging operating environment, the positive results were seen by our progress in diversifying revenue and reducing our exposure to low-margin and high-competitive business.

Speaker 2: We have been focusing on products and applications which benefit from global investment in immobility and renewable energy and this strategy is yielding the good results. IPC has another quarter with strong sales and immobility applications driven by an increase in sales to Gia Gracias.

Speaker 2: outside China, primarily in North America, Europe and South Korea.

Speaker 2: EV-related investments in China slowed during the quarter, particularly into traditional prismatic sales batteries.

Speaker 2: But we are seeing an increased investment in new technologies such as large cylindrical cells and also more investment in the batteries for storage applications.

Speaker 2: Our team is working on new business opportunities for O-Katan applications.

Speaker 2: and electrical motor assembly. This continued adoption of electric vehicles and growth in energy storage globally, demand for batteries should quickly catch up with recent capacity additions.

Speaker 2: and we expect investment in battery manufacturing in China to be stronger next year.

Meanwhile, we are seeing the increased investment in EV battery capacity outside of China and expect immobility orders to remain strong in the South quarter.

Our world itself is benefiting from growth and mobility applications where our complete solution, which includes AMD lasers and welding heads, combines with our real-time wealth monitoring and measuring technology, which has become the industrial standard.

LDDs at real time measurement can significantly reduce testing time.

Strap cost and failed parts.

for the customer, making a very strong value proposition and exceptional return on investment, giving the yield and cost benefits.

So, did you also get great acceptance in applications outside of batteries?

Whereas the final cost of defects can be very high and lead to significant recalls.

We are proud to deliver multiple solutions which can significantly reduce the environment impact.

for our customers, including our high efficiency is working with the Vid Damn Scorpio Institute

Environment friendly cleaning solutions and high efficiency weather dry drying and heating system.

During the quarter, we continue to see strong results in our laser cleaning solutions in immobility.

and other automotive and non-automotive applications.

Laser cleaning provides substantial benefits, reducing the use of abrasives, chemicals and dry ice cleaning.

Unlike chemicals, abrasive and heat treatment cleaning process, laser cleaning doesn't impact the material that has been cleaned, does not leave toxic waste and also create a safer and cleaner environment for employers.

it can also significantly reduce water consumption.

And we are seeing an increasing interest in our laser printing solution for a number of different processes and applications, including the paint and corrosion removal.

Another recently introduced laser solution which is replacing the less efficient infrared bubbles.

for the drying and heating is gaining interest and we have booked our first order for EVB battery applications which will be shipped in the third quarter.

The drying solutions are well received by customers.

and are gaining market acceptance because they have said significantly.

down energy consumption and reduce the environmental impact on legacy processes.

And today I am happy to announce that the board of directors has elected Colin Kennedy as the new director of the company.

I am looking forward to working with Colleen and Belif. She will be a great contributor to IPG's strategy, particularly with our growth and medical applications.

giving her 25 years of experience in the medical system manufacturing industry.

I would like to thank our employers for their strong contribution in the quarter and we will now turn the call over to the team to discuss financial highlights.

Thank you Eugene and good morning everyone.

My comments generally will follow the earnings call presentation which is available on our investor relations website.

I will start with the financial review on slide 4.

Revenue in the second quarter was $340 million.

and the telecom divestiture that reduced revenue by approximately 1%.

Revenue from materials processing applications decreased 8% year over year, while revenue from other applications decreased 23%.

Gap gross margin was 43.4%.

a decrease of 230 basis points year over year due to higher cost of products sold and charges for scrap which were partially offset by lower inventory reserves.

reduce shipping costs and tariffs, as well as an improvement in absorption of manufacturing costs as a percentage of sales.

On a sequential basis,

Gross margin continues to improve as we focus on reducing costs and improving manufacturing efficiency.

We also benefited from slightly lower inventory provisions and shipping costs.

As mentioned before, FX headwinds also had a negative impact in the quarter.

If exchange rates relative to the US dollar had been the same as one year ago, we would have expected revenue to be $9 million higher and gross profit to be $5 million higher.

Gap operating income was $72 million and operating margin was 21.2%.

Net income was $62 million or $1.31 per diluted share.

The effective tax rate in the quarter was 24% and was benefited by certain discrete items.

Foreign currency transaction expense related to remeasuring foreign currency assets and liabilities to period-end exchange rates had a negative impact on operating income of $1 million, but net of a tax benefit had no material impact on earnings per share.

excluding the currency transaction loss.

and the restructuring charge.

Operating expenses declined year over year.

primarily in research and development and general administrative categories as we reduce spending on telecom product development, implemented tighter cost controls and reduced expenses.

Moving to slide five.

Sales of high power CW lasers decreased 10% and represented approximately 43% of total revenue. Tesla's s

Sales of ultra high power lasers above 6 kilowatt represented 50% of total high power CW laser sales with customers outside of China moving to higher powers

The decline in revenue was primarily due to lower demand in flat sheet cutting applications as a result of softer demand and competition in China.

Pulse laser sales decreased 24% year over year as strong growth in cleaning and solar applications was offset by lower demand in foil cutting and marking applications.

System cells declined 1% year over year with growth in light weld offset by a decline in other laser and non-laser systems.

Medium power laser sales increased 18%.

driven by increased demand in welding and 3D printing applications.

while QCW laser sales were down 2% year over year.

Other product sales decreased due to lower revenue in medical and advanced applications.

Looking at our performance by region on slide 6.

Revenue in North America decreased by 11% with strong growth in welding and cleaning applications offset by lower sales in advanced and medical applications.

lower cutting revenue and the divestiture of the telecom business.

In Europe , sales increased 4%, driven by growth in welding and cleaning applications, despite overall uncertainty in the economy.

At the recent laser show in Europe , the tone of our business was muted, with most customers expecting a slowdown in the second half of 2023.

Moving to a summary of our balance sheet and cash flow on slide 7, we ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments of $1.1 billion and repaid $16 million of debt in the quarter. Cash provided by operations was $67 million and capital expenditures were $26 million during the quarter. We now expect capital expenditures to be between $130 million and $140 million this year.

Our inventories decreased slightly and we continue to target further reduction in inventories during the second half of the year.

While maintaining a strong balance sheet, we have been returning a significant amount of capital to shareholders over the last year and in the first quarter.

We did not repurchase shares in the second quarter.

As previously reported, the Board announced a new 200 million share repurchase authorization in May and we have a new 10b18 repurchase plan in place.

We intend to repurchase shares opportunistically. Moving to our outlook on slide 9. As we switch to breakneck, we see that disclosed may later.

Second quarter book to Bill was below one.

We continue to see uncertain macroeconomic condition and soft orders in all major manufacturing regions. Leading indicators in North America and Europe point to contraction in the industrial markets while the timing of demand recovery in China remains uncertain.

which should help to offset headwinds in the rest of the business. For the third quarter of 2023, IPG expects revenue of 300 million to 330 million. Company expects third quarter gross margin to be between 40 and 42 percent. IPG anticipates delivering earnings per diluted share in the range of 85 cents to $1.15 with approximately 47.5 million diluted common shares outstanding.

As discussed in the Safe Harbor passage of today's earnings press release, our guidance is based upon current market conditions and expectations, assume exchange rates referenced in our earnings press release and is subject to risks outlined in the Safe Harbor passage.

and the company's reports with the SEC.

With that, we'll be happy to take your questions. Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad.

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One moment please while we poll for questions.

Our first question comes from Ruvon Roy with Steve. Please proceed with your question. Thank you. Good morning, all. Tim, I wanted to drill in a little bit further into the commentary around cutting. It sounded like the weakness was sort of weighted more towards the.

softer demand than competition in China, but can you remind us where, you know, kind of as a percentage of revenues in China, cutting stands and was the comment on competition in China broader, meaning that did it encompass EV as well? No, the comment on competition in China is really around the...

globally.

Our cutting within China is certainly a much smaller share of the total sales there now. We had said at the end of last quarter that it was less than 10% of consolidated sales and it remains quite well below that level.

part of the high power cutting business in China. It was pretty stable from Q1 to Q2, it certainly didn't perform well.

I appreciate that. As a follow-up, Tim, can we talk a little bit about gross margins and some of the puts and takes? A good quarter here, obviously, we're going into a little bit of a lower revenue environment in Q3. Thinking through the rest of the year, you've got potentially some improving productivity coming up.

rest of the year. We were actually very pleased with the sequential improvement in gross margin following the sequential improvement in Q1. Getting back up...

to a more reasonable level, certainly below our longer-term target level still. In Q3, really, the difference is just on lower revenue levels, the absorption of manufacturing costs will be lower. So going through the remainder of the year, it will really depend upon where the market

We're where the tone of the business ends up and into next year, hopefully with an improving outlook we'd expect to see close margins pick up again, but it really is just on the fixed cost base.

You start to see some under-absorption at the guidance level we're at in Q3.

Thank you, Tim.

Our next question comes from James Rashudi with Needham & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you, good morning. So it sounds like you're seeing you've seen some softening in the EV related business in China. I'm wondering if you could talk more broadly about

Thank you, good morning. So it sounds like you're seeing you've seen some softening in the EV related business in China. I'm wondering if you could talk more broadly about what you're seeing in the market.

outside of China And and can maybe you can help size this EV business in Q2 how it's fared You know just versus Q1 and you know to the extent you can what they represent Of that EV business how much is battery welding right now?

Yes, so we are seeing some softness in the demand cycle in China really related to the capacity additions that have already been.

filter out there. You also started to see a transition more of the cylindrical battery investment. We think that's actually gonna be a big drive next year as capacity utilization picks up. In the rest of the world, the demand cycle for EV has actually been...

pretty robust and strong. I'd say it's strongest in North America and then followed by Europe . There's good demand out of South Korea and even in Japan as well. It's still dominated by battery applications.

diversifying the battery applications again, we've got the first orders for the drying.

that the drawing equipment.

We're starting to see some demand for additional foil cutting applications.

There are some cleaning applications on some of the main body.

In mainly in North America that's coming from and there are some complete systems we're selling into that I'd still say though. It's it's still very much battery driven Motor manufacturing is still a sort of ancillary application

in mainly North America that's coming from, and there are some complete systems we're selling into that. I'd still say though, it's still very much battery driven. Motor manufacturing is still a sort of ancillary application in that area.

And this represents roughly, what is your reaction? So it's still well above 20% of sales in Q2.

Okay. Also, we'll see in Europe trend to share to...

shift production of the cars.

And we see it definitely for a few our customers in Europe and also in the United States.

And my follow-up question is on the bookings trends, you mentioned book to bill below one, and I'm wondering if you could provide any more granularity on that and how it may be varying by region and including what you're seeing perhaps in the consumer electronics market, which I don't think you mentioned that.

geographies. That would be Europe , US and China. We actually had some pretty positive order flow out of Japan which is holding up quite well and South Korea also performed.

that would be Europe , US and China. We actually had some pretty positive order flow out of Japan, which is holding up quite well. And South Korea also performed...

pretty well to, that's sort of the, it was sort of married up to what you're seeing on some of the PMI data out there.

Sorry, Jim, what was the second part of your question? Well, just on some of the end markets, I mean, I assume that the legacy automotive is slower. I didn't hear any comments about some of the other end markets, including consumer electronics, which in the past you've seen some seasonality in terms of orders. What does that market look like for you?

electronics.

The other positive areas on applications were really cleaning and then additive manufacturing was actually, cleaning was very strong globally, additive manufacturing was okay in Europe and was actually very strong in China with a couple of the OEMs that we worked very closely with there and additive there we've been qualified because of the

quality and the reliability of the lasers. Cleaning applications for us is very important because we are shipping not only Pounce laser or CW laser for such kind of applications but final systems.

colonial.

Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. One moment please while we poll for questions.

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Our next question comes from Michael Fenninger with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks guys for fitting me in. The inventories came down 3% quarter to quarter. I know that's been a target of you guys to make improvements there. But with book to bill less than one times and some of these PMIs low, I'm just curious to how you're thinking about inventories in the back half.

We continue to be very focused on managing inventory and we're not seeing some of the same supply chain issues that we had experienced for the last couple of years. So we continue to target bringing inventory down during the second half of the year and generating cash out of that. In the medium term, let's say we want to get down to less than 200 days inventory on hand and ultimately get back to a more normalized inventory level which would be somewhere around 180 days but that may take a bit longer.

to get to. But yeah, we're definitely looking to take some additional cash out of inventory and are pleased with the progress that we've made to date this year. And certainly it's a significant change as compared to the investment in inventory we felt that was necessary last year.

Great and Tim just following up on the question around the production footprint it it sounds like what's weighing on the gross margin among other things is is the under absorption that you kind of talked about the volumes are you still confident with the change with with the pull-ins and and raising production in the US.

with your cost base as we think about those gross margin targets. Maybe not for obviously Q3 or Q4, just maybe longer term.

Definitely, it's our goal to optimize our cost, first of all, for production of some of the components like fiber blocks and others for our lasers. And of course, we are working with this way. By the way, in Poland, we will increase our production dramatically and we will be in integ redd.

components and also in Germany. And every time, of course, it's under auto control to cost these components because it's influenced, finally, exactly, by our gross margin.

situation in the United States much more because it's a expensive country but

fiber components production. Great, thanks for that and then just on Europe Europe you know we're hearing from other industrial companies that kind of flagging a weakening in Germany and Europe the last month or so your growth was pretty resilient even up a little bit in Germany just curious what you're kind of seeing there with the underlying demand versus your ability to offset that it looks like in some areas. I mean certainly you know during the quarter Europe was performed pretty reasonably and particularly compared to a year ago.

The weaker guidance reflects some of the softness that other people are seeing. For us that's translating into Q3. There are positives and negatives, right? Some of the industrial OEM business is a bit weaker where some of the welding applications...

have held up quite well and things like cleaning are also performing well in Europe . But yeah, I mean the PMI's in Europe are 43, they're some of the weakest they've been for...

quite a long time and I think that the German economy is quite weak at the moment.

Well, to see how long it takes for that to turn around.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Miller with the Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you for the questions. You mentioned there was a large customer inventory adjustment in the US. Could you give a little more color what type of industry was that from?

Yeah, Mark, I would say medical applications which we'd called out on Q1 would be weaker in the second quarter and now we're expecting a recovery in medical application sales in Q3. The customers work through their inventory adjustment that they've signaled to us would happen in the second quarter.

Any opportunities such as in the consumer electronics area related to AI you see coming up?

I mean there's some announcements out there that there's one of the major smartphone manufacturers is going to be using more additive manufacturing in their processes. That would be an opportunity for us.

given the strength that we have within the additive manufacturing processes around the world. I think that would be one of the more significant opportunities that's being talked about. As you mentioned, the consumer electronics investment cycle overall with QCW lasers and even pulse lasers being relatively anemic is not strong enough.

and answer session, I would now like to turn the call back over to Eugene Federal for closing comments.

Thanks for joining this morning and for your continued interest in IPG. We will participate in a number of investor events this quarter and are looking forward to speaking with you over the coming weeks. Have a great day everyone.

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and we thank you for your participation.

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